The TRUTH About Web 3: Patience Unveiled | Stevie Williams DSH #766

That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people drop ship on Web3.

You still see the long term with a potential in Web3.

I mean, I've always seen the long term and the rabbit hole is deep with Web3.

But patience and development is like the key.

It's just that I had to form the roadmap of patience to

understand

how fast it changes.

All right, guys, Stevie Williams here.

What's poppin'?

Got a lot going on.

Can't wait to dive into it.

Yeah.

Got a Web3 project, got your apparel brand.

Yeah.

What's been the main thing these days?

For real, for real, the main thing has been patience.

Yeah, patience.

We're getting deep off the start here.

Because

it's deep.

The rabbit hole is deep with Web3.

But patience and development is like the key.

So I used to be really impulsive, but I've learned to

work on my patience.

That's what I would say.

That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people jump ship on Web3.

Yeah, that's why patience is a virtue.

Yeah, it's easy.

You still see the long term with it, the potential in Web3.

Yeah, I mean, I've always seen the long term in it.

It's just that I

had to form the roadmap of patience to

understand

how fast it it changes.

And then also

my direction has to stay straight as it changes

so

you know you just gotta just stay patient that's that's my thing yeah because there's there's a lot of people that were hyping it up on twitter and stuff or turn that bullet nfts web3 nfts yeah no it's a real thing is it's how you use it right for your purpose i would say right and if you don't have a purpose

then it could be a little difficult for you to for it to help you with the purpose Absolutely.

When I realized how beneficial it was for me and what I wanted to do for the long run, for like what I what I like to do creatively,

I was like, damn, it works.

So

yeah, patience.

Yeah, so talking about Scapes, what was the vision there for that project?

That's a part of the vision.

So the vision for Scapes is to re-identify myself in the Web3 space, but not jump so far away from who I am and what I created and what I've done.

So it's kind of like a playoff of everything that I know creatively without like

confusing people that it's like Stevie Williams, right?

Because that's a whole situation in itself.

So I was able to recreate an image out of something that I liked when I was a kid, which was urban anime

and make it, I mean, not urban anime, but Japanimation back in the day.

Yeah.

I'm older.

Like Dragon Ball?

No, bro.

I'm older, bro.

I'm going to say, like,

Ghost in the Shell or Akira.

I haven't heard of those.

Yeah, Fist of the North Star, things like that, where,

you know, I've seen it.

I've seen what we used to like develop into a Dragon Ball Z into everything else, right?

So skateboarding, the backdrop.

the lifestyle, the community, which you have to build in Web3,

it all made sense to say, okay, well, damn, I want to create a new situation, a new vibe, right?

And scapes represents skateboarding, and apes represents the,

I would say, the identity of the Web3 culture.

Everybody uses apes and stuff like that, right?

So, scapes, skate apes,

it makes sense.

So, delivering fidgetal stuff was the key to making everything make sense for me because with the NFC chip or the tag, you're able to make really cool figural products that represents the Web3 space, but it's on in real life physical products.

Right.

So, what is fidgetal?

Fidgetal is a new term, right?

And that term describes figural products with digital assets,

meaning in real life real physical stuff that have the NFC tag attached to it, which means near-field communication.

Got it.

Tap technology and things like that.

So

giving the consumer experience when they purchase the brand hasn't been done

by a lot of people, right?

So and everybody have their own style of doing it.

NFC tags isn't like

one person's thing.

It's a thing, right?

People can develop it and all of that.

So it all depends about what you do with it, right?

So I was able to narrow it down into like what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it and then developing it and then bringing it to life.

So that's what I'm saying.

It's a patient process.

Yeah, it's crazy, but it's dope.

It's fun.

No, I feel that, though, because I visited Gary Vee's office and he had a whole team just for V friends in the office.

I can only imagine what he has.

Yeah.

So,

yeah.

It's a long game, yeah.

A lot of people left the space and they're worried because like board apes are down a lot, but we'll see what happens.

Yeah, I would look at those as buyers, not creators.

So if the buyers think that the market is down because they didn't make a certain amount of money or they flipped, like whatever the case may be, whatever they was into,

can't knock it, right?

But if you're a creator and you believe in your project, then there's always going to be obstacles and

non-believers.

So can you get past that to succeed, right?

So I feel that.

That's kind of like what I'm on.

Yeah.

You still watching any animes right now?

No, bro.

I'm so busy.

I don't even have time to watch TV.

I swear.

As soon as I get home, I'm like cleaning, like walking my dog, feeding him,

sitting down, studying a little bit more.

Yeah.

I may try to catch basketball, but as soon as I cut it on, like, I'm...

I'm out.

Dang, you're grinding, man.

Yeah, I'm out.

I'm going to sleep.

Who you got winning this?

There's four four teams left.

I'm going to go with

Anthony Edwards.

Oh, and they're down 0-1 right now, so that's a bold pick because they just lost at home.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

To be honest with you, I don't really care, to be honest with you, but I like to see the change of guard in things.

And I think that Anthony Edwards represents, and the Indiana Pacers represent a new style of fast-paced basketball that's arriving, and I think that's going to put a lot of pressure on the OGs

and then the young OGs too, because the fast-paced rhythm.

So that's what I like to watch.

I could see that.

Things like that.

And plus, that's my son's favorite player, so I'm rooting for that.

He's got a good taste in players.

He does.

I'm not even going to lie.

My son picked them all.

What do you mean?

Like, he picked that

the Warriors were going to have a run

like when he was young as far as like when they was like battling the Clippers.

Wow.

And then

he

predicted Steph Curry being MVP.

Dude.

Yeah.

Your son's a savant.

But also my son is also a basketball player so shout out to my son.

Yeah.

I got to see him who fan.

And his school, Bishop Alamani, won state champ this year.

Damn.

So he's nice.

Yeah, he's nice.

His team is nice.

They're nice together.

Okay.

And then he predicted Anthony Edwards.

That's crazy.

So I got to give him his props.

Edwards was a hard pick to predict.

I

only know him from the movie, the Adam Sandler movie, right?

But I didn't know he could ball like that.

But he's vicious.

And to me, they already beat the champs.

Damn.

So,

you know.

I can see that.

It's entertainment.

How about that?

Yeah.

So you got a family of athletes, man, because you were a pro skateboarder.

Yeah, skater.

I'm still a pro.

Oh, you're still skating?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

yeah, I still skate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, you know, it's just a creative house, I would say.

Like, my kids can go in their own creative direction, but we have formulas that we develop for roadmaps so you can follow in your life and stay on path.

Things like that.

That's interesting.

Because a lot of households tell you, to tell their kids what to do exactly, and there's not really that creative freedom, right?

Yeah, I think a lot of those people were told what to do.

So they only know what to tell their kids what to do from what somebody else told them.

My mom was was a fruit she's she allowed me to be a free-spirited kid and I learnt

like on the road, I learned a lot and the things that I the things that I learned I was able to kind of redirect my family with the help and support of them learning the learning curves and

creating a a road map for us to follow to be successful and then portraying that and them seeing that and me working hard for that every day to stay solid on my path path of greatness path to righteousness and and the path of success so

yeah that's interesting because when you were pursuing skateboarding the market wasn't huge at the time right or was it

no no no no it was it's all it's always been a market and and the goal for for any skater that wants to pursue his dream is to turn to turn pro right but

I seen something different I seen like more when I moved to Los Angeles I seen that I could become more

and the roads kind of just opened up and appeared and I went for it so you know I'm blessed definitely grateful for being in this position and

yeah it was just success you had the vision but you also executed it I think that's yeah yeah I always wanted to be like what I am now

my kids asked me that my daughter some other kids asked me, like, did I ever see myself being who I am now?

And yeah, that's, that's what I worked hard for.

That's what I, that's what I saw when I was a kid.

I wanted, I wanted, I wanted this.

So now that I have it, what do I do with it?

And that's, that's the phase in my life where, you know, giving back, um, giving out

positive, more like accurate information on how to do things and

just staying within the system of development so you can have some time for yourself to become who you want to be

and things like that.

I don't know.

It gets deep.

Yeah, I know.

But it's all life stuff.

You know what I mean?

Challenge.

And you never get there again.

It's tough sometimes, right?

Yeah, I've lost it.

I've lost it.

And

I feel as though I'm like getting it back.

And how I got it back is different from how I had it before.

So I'm more grateful for it now than I was when I was a little bit younger.

Yeah, that's deep.

Because when you're young, you get wrapped up in it, right?

Well, yeah, my cousin Sue, shout out to him.

We got this joke about the dip, right?

So you could

be successful, rich.

Like you can come up, right?

And then

and then within that success and within that come up, you're definitely high and everything feels like it's going to last forever.

And everybody hears that story.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

But then um then that dip comes and that dip is

a super low test of who you truly are and if it was meant for you

because every great great

have has had a dip where they had to overcome the obstacles after success right to become

greater than they were before the dip.

And then that's, I think, that's when you get the GOAT status.

Because people have to see their hero fail and how strong their hero

pursues to come back.

And usually they can come back.

But if you don't come back from the dip,

then that's where you at.

Yeah, two people came to mind when you're talking.

So Michael Jordan came to mind for that.

For sure.

And then on the other end, Antonio Brown, because he just went bankrupt yesterday.

I wouldn't say that's the dip for Antonio Brown, but I would say Michael Jordan, yeah.

Yeah, you don't think that's a dip, though?

No, what is that?

I don't know what that is for him,

but what they're telling us is

financial issues.

But I mean,

who doesn't have financial issues?

The average person can have that.

Like, no, nothing to take away from Antonio Brown or anything, but I'm saying more like I say, look at Michael Jordan.

Yeah,

he created his own dip when he went to baseball,

right he was ridiculed he was

tested he was

humiliated

and he he stayed true right he

invested into the back the baseball team he brought light to it he learned from it he took a break from the pressure or whatever else was going on but he like

He took it all in.

The media ate him up, you know?

Like things like that.

Like he hit maybe one home run.

You feel me?

Yeah.

But that Michael Jordan one home run in a minor league was so monumental probably for him and his life

that that

his dip when he came back from to basketball

he overachieved

after that humiliation embarrassment and people seeing their hero in a lower light.

Yeah.

Right.

And then he was able to achieve.

Things like that.

You know, I can't really identify everybody's dip, but if you know what I know,

you know that that dip is real.

Yeah.

And then can you bounce back from the dip?

Right.

And they happen more than people think.

You know, it knows naturally.

It has to happen.

That's life.

So, so, yeah.

So, like, when I'm like, all right, damn, did he hit the dip yet?

You know, it's like, did he?

Or did she?

Or did the situation hit the dip?

Because now you can see, okay, now they're dealing with really true adversity in the eye of public scrutiny and all of that type of stuff and then do they come back from that how do they come back from that right and then that was the testament of their of their of their goatness right because they don't make monuments and statues out of the weak

so at the end of the day like are you tried and true in the eye of the public to be as strong as

they uh they they think you are absolutely and it goes for that meeting people's expectations is is very very hard oh yeah you know what i'm saying especially these days with social media.

Oh, my God.

Getting criticized every game.

Like, just everything.

Yeah.

Person, game, whatever.

Yeah.

Choices, you know, stuff like that.

So that's why it gets deep.

It gets deep.

Not for real.

Yeah, it applies to any industry, too.

Look at any successful entrepreneur or any business owner.

Anybody that you look at that has major success,

you can actually ask them about their dip and they should be able to explain to you, like humbly,

yeah,

it's a thing.

Can you bounce back?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I've had, I'm only 27, but I've definitely had a few big ones already.

A few dips?

Yeah.

Yeah, they come.

So imagine being prepared for the dip.

Yeah.

Right.

Which you can't be, but

doing that roadmap and like

your guided direction of where you should be going in life, you can expect potholes.

You can expect

just things to

obstacles to being your way

and setbacks.

Yeah.

And how to avoid those and don't put yourself into

possible pushbacks.

Yeah.

You know, did you experience a big one when you were skateboarding?

Which one?

Pushbacks?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I have, yes, for sure.

I've, yeah, I have, for sure.

Yeah, you really made a name for yourself in that industry.

So I assume you went through some big dips and setbacks and stuff.

Yeah, I've had some public failures.

I've had some public,

humiliating situations.

I've had financial situations.

You know, it's just,

it is what it is.

Yeah.

But I am blessed to still be around all.

Yeah, I will say not a lot of people are still around.

Your longevity is impressive.

You know what I mean?

It's pretty crazy though.

Yeah.

I mean, look, 20 years ago, like, you could probably name maybe five guys still around.

Yeah.

Probably.

Yeah.

Probably more.

Probably more.

Maybe more.

What do you mean, like, it's a level of like skating?

Like, have maintained their level of notoriety.

Yeah, like reputation and all that type of stuff.

Yeah.

There's not many.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm a pretty serious, funny acting person.

But I learned like when it's time to turn it on,

bring it.

And then when it's time to shut it off, like shut it off.

Yeah.

You know, and a cause?

Well, I have...

different sets of friends.

Okay.

You know, so these sets of friends do this, these sets of friends do that, these sets of friends do this, and then I have my family.

Interesting.

So, with my friends, I could definitely be me.

Like, I don't have to be anything that I don't want to be.

But then, when it comes to my family that truly knows me and how to push my buttons or knows what I'm really feeling or know how I really get down,

you know, it's just those type of things that

being relatable.

Yeah, being relatable to multiple different things so you can make the right choice.

You feel me?

Yeah, yeah.

Because if the choice is to have longevity, then you can't fall for the small, quick things.

And you,

this is my personal opinion.

You just have to feel as though, like,

you're making the right choice for your longevity play and you don't, like, sacrifice your long-term shit for short-term things.

Yeah.

That's hard.

Long-term, yeah, because, yeah, especially with family involved too, right?

Family and forecasting, not knowing what your life could be like in the future.

Like you say, you're 27.

Yep.

Yeah, 27.

I didn't know what my life would be like at 44.

And I was nervous.

I was worried.

I carried a lot of stress.

I carried a lot of other people's weight.

And then being able to see the things that blossomed as far as the decisions that I chose to make, stepping up to be a dad,

stepping up to be a better partner, learning, studying more, like kind of stop

doing things a certain way and evolving into like who I think I should truly be type shit.

Yeah.

And then

seeing it work and then seeing the results from that.

And a lot of that comes from your family and how they treat you and love you and respect you and talk to you and look up to you.

And

those are the things that I value way more now than I did from anything else.

So my whole thing changed.

Yeah.

So and that's growing up.

So at 44

I wasn't thinking like that at 27.

Absolutely.

I used to think about money.

No, I think about money too.

I've had to change my mindset on a lot of stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I used to be a massive people pleaser.

Massive.

What do you mean, like, like passive-aggressive people?

Like, I would put other people before me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I would make sure they were good before I was good.

So, this year or two, I had to be I mean, selfish is kind of a negative thing to say, but I've had to take a step back and think more about myself.

I'm there right now, too, though.

That can't front, though.

Only because it feels good to see

or help other people out, right?

Like it could, it could be dope to help other people out.

But then if you don't get anything in return and you still anticipating

some type of like reward or like

validation satisfaction

you don't get none of it that hurts and then you like a corny dude for trying to call people out because they didn't meet your expectations

of your feelings.

That's what men do, right?

Like real alpha shit, right?

But

you want the right mindset

of changing that at an earlier age than somebody my age that spent an extra 20 years like letting people slide.

Did you do that for 20 years?

No, I'm just saying if I would have let that ride up to my age, but I mean, I was like that at 27.

Yeah.

And maybe up to like, yeah, like 40, like 38, 30, 40.

Yeah, I let a lot of stuff slide on just because it was regular, it's normal, it's natural.

Yeah.

But then, you know,

something switches.

People change, things change.

Money change.

Yeah.

You know,

and then some people don't be deserving things.

So why would you give

so much of yourself to something or someone that's very undeserving.

That's when you got to be like, yo, no, I come first.

And

if you're mad at me for me making sure that I'm situated first, then we got a problem.

Yeah.

If you can stand on that,

then it's like you're not really there for my well-being.

You're there to like, you're a taker.

And that's the tricky thing with doing business with friends because the money can get in the way, ruin the friendship.

Paperwork.

Yeah.

Put your homie in some paperwork.

Yeah.

You're not the one.

That was my mistake.

I trusted the verbal handshake type.

Yeah.

Yeah, everybody get

knocked down.

It ain't just your friends.

So just being able to understand

you may take a loss if you don't do it correctly.

And you can't even get mad at the homie for burning you.

You got to get mad at yourself that you wasn't prepared.

Yeah, that's Deep.

A lot of people play the victim game, but I like that mindset.

But yeah, you got to put that on yourself more so.

Like, damn, like, I didn't do it properly.

And I wasn't prepared to take this L.

So now I got to really take this L.

But an L ain't a really a L.

It's a learning lesson.

Right.

So you learn.

So if they did it, you let that slide again,

then yeah, you retard it.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't.

Because you know better now.

Yeah.

And then it's like, all right, well.

I feel sorry for the next motherfucker.

Absolutely.

Because I'm not going to let it slide.

And then that'll just be your M.O.

And I had to learn that too and it's not easy because you might be like a you know a good-hearted dude that wants to see people win which is which is great but people will take advantage yeah the kindness for business for sure facts that's what it's about business is ruthless man

yeah you want to swim with the sharks you can't be yeah can't be food yeah it's interesting i mean i want other podcasts to succeed but there's definitely can feel some negative energy sometimes you know oh what happened to podcasts oh like podcast haters, like so, yeah, certain people in the comments, you know, hating on me or the guests or whatever it is, but that's social media in general, I feel like.

Well,

they gonna, they gonna, they have to hate.

Like, they have to.

Everybody's not gonna agree with

they have to hate, bro.

Don't let that shit get to you.

Yeah, yeah, because

if they wasn't hating, they they wasn't watching.

So, if they wasn't watching, if the haters ain't watching, then you ain't going to really have too many viewers.

So you got to,

you have to.

It may sting to hear people talk about you, but oh well.

Yeah, it comes with the views I got.

You won't be up here if they won't be looking at you if you wasn't grabbing their attention.

Right.

Right.

So you need

both.

And it's good marketing, too.

You know, it's good marketing when haters.

talk about you to other people

because they already know that they haters

you know what i mean

But now that hater introduced you to somebody new and whether that person going to be the second hater, well, at least you have two haters.

You didn't have two haters before.

You had one hater.

You feel what I'm saying?

No, for sure.

And that hater will turn into a fan if you just stay on your path.

Because eventually, like, if your shit is authentic

and you speaking on some cool stuff that attracts their interest,

then you could convert a hater over into a fan i could see that yeah you have to kanye has done it a few times kanye

he used to have a lot of yeah he has some crazy formulas like i don't even know what his formula is because he's an entertainer so he gets a chance to like play with the algorithms and ways where but i think it all starts with with the mind of knowing that

you may disrupt some stuff right

and then you know it's a lot of backlash is going to come from you being so disruptive

But if you don't like care about what people are saying

because you know you created that wave, then it doesn't really affect you.

Right.

Thick skin.

No, it's just like, why would you even care about anything that you, these people talking about if you created it?

Like, why would you care?

Because you created it.

Right.

So let them talk about it.

Did that make sense?

No, it does.

Yeah.

I think feedback from the right people is important, but in general on social media, it's a lot of money.

You need feedback from the haters.

You think so?

Yeah, I think so.

That's what I think.

Okay.

Because the haters are telling you everything that you don't want to hear.

So even though you may not like it,

they still telling you something.

Right.

So if you're like, oh, fuck it, I don't want to hear what he's talking about.

It's like, maybe you should.

Maybe you should listen to some bad shit about yourself.

I feel that, though.

There's some truth in the the hate sometimes.

It's more truth in the hate than it is in truth.

That's deep.

If you think about it, because the hater is going to hate, and he's going to tell you everything

that you know.

Because I think that that's what it is, though, sometimes, like, where you, like, so insecure or so

much of a perfectionist on your own stuff.

And then somebody calls out an imperfection

and

you like, it makes you feel some type of way because only you know that imperfection is there everybody else may not know it's there but if that one hater calls it out right and that hater was right and it's like who did it affect him or you

right

yeah you feel me on that no i do yeah so you need them for for like research and development i would say you know and i'm giving out a little advice right now because

If you really listen to what your haters say,

you could find out what you really need to do to improve.

So don't let that shit get to you.

Look at it like

just resourceful information.

Take your feelings out of it.

Yeah, that's great about it.

Take your feelings out of it.

I love that.

I would say that.

No, I feel that.

I'll start reading the comments and taking them seriously.

Do you want to respond?

It reminds me of Silent J.

Who's up?

Jay and Silent Bob.

I don't know him.

You never seen that movie?

No.

One of those movies, Jay and Silent Bob, where like at the the end of the movie, they won all of this money from doing this like thing.

And then they took the money and spent it on finding every person that made like a shitty comment.

That's pretty cool.

And they pulled up to their house and punched them in the face.

It was dope.

I never understood that movie part until social media

took off.

Yeah.

Because that's what people want to do.

You want to find that hater and pull up and do something to them, right?

Yeah, yeah.

But if you really look at what the hater is saying and take the hate and the emotion out of it and look at his like

development for improvement,

then you actually got like

free free tools.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, so the haters kind of make sense.

Yeah, yeah.

Stevie, it's been really interesting, man.

I've learned a lot from you.

I appreciate it.

Anything

you want to leave the audience with or promote?

Hell yeah.

So when I was telling you about the figural stuff,

I have

a brand called NFCB.

And that stands for Nairfield Communication Blanks.

And I have blank products that have the NFC tag attached to them.

So I make

clothes with the NFC tag, skateboards with the NFC tag inside the deck.

NFC stickers and then also grip tape.

So I started developing products with the NFC tag and then also developing the software as well with

what one of my partners called Eternal.

And we've created so much cool stuff that when that comes out, I just want people to be aware of this new term and then also my brand that's going to be pushing a wave in the narrative for this.

I'm not the only brand, but you know, while I'm on stage, I'm going to plug my

the NFC B.

Yeah.

And then when people see it, they understand that

when you get my products, it comes with media, meaning like

music,

videos, photos, social feeds, and hyperlinks.

And then more features as the company grows.

But this feature will allow a lot of brands to create an experience.

for their customers just by tapping the phone to the to the apparel or the product

and without downloading the app love it yeah we'll link it below man that's awesome yeah so you know thanks for letting me uh

shield my stuff on this stage

bro i appreciate you because scapes is going to be powered by all of this and every brand that you see me working with personally and then um possibly dgk in the near future will be using this tap technology so yeah we'll link it below we'll also link scapes and uh check it out guys if you're interested in that stuff and

see you next time man thanks for watching me.

Yeah, peace.