Why UFC Is Dominating Boxing: Insider Reveals | Ali Abdelaziz DSH #724
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - How Ali Got Into Management
03:56 - Client Conflicts in Management
07:44 - Khabib's New Fighting League
08:01 - UFC vs Boxing Comparison
05:36 - Upcoming Fights Preview
12:42 - Insights on Egypt
14:22 - Donald Trump Discussion
19:57 - PFL Overview
20:53 - Upcoming Fights Update
23:17 - Sean Strickland Analysis
24:14 - Characteristics of a Champion
29:15 - End
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Donald Trump is all about peace, all about business, all about making an economy better.
Now it's like a third war country.
Now they try to put the opponent who runs for the election in jail.
They put him to jail, automatically become the president.
Yeah, for sure.
People are waking up.
People waking up.
Yeah.
Because if they can do this to him, what they can do to us.
Yeah, for real.
They can put the president in jail.
We're just easy.
For sure.
All right, guys, we got Ali Abdulaziz here today.
Thanks for coming on, man.
You're welcome.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, one of the best in the business.
It's an honor.
Thank you, brother.
Yeah, you've probably got the most impressive roster I've ever seen.
Yeah.
It's just a lot of hard work and dedication.
Yeah.
I'd love to hear how you got there.
Who was that first big client for you?
Honestly,
I was still fighting.
And I was trained at this
Henzo Gracie gym in New York.
And before that, I trained with
Greg Jackson.
And George Sanpier came there.
He's like, hey, come to New York, train with me there.
And I went there and I kind of liked it and stayed.
And I was just training and fighting a little bit.
A lot of you doesn't know I have some professional fights.
And
I started kind of helping guys around the gym with like all the Gracie boys, like
Igor Greasy, Hollis Gracie, Gregor Greasy.
And after that, Frankie Edgar was coming to the gym a lot.
And at the time, he was a UFC champion.
And at the same time, Henzu said, hey, I want to fight back.
I want to fight.
And I think Henzu have a fight in the UFC and he fought in Abu Dhabi in 2010.
Right after I started working with Frankie Edgar, he was my first kind of big client.
Wow.
And we was training together for like a year, you know, and he, and honestly, without Henzo, Gracie, and Frankie, I wouldn't be here because he took a lot of risk
with me because I never manage anybody who's relevant.
And that's how the whole thing started.
And then from there, look at who you have now, man.
Crazy.
I mean, your results speak for itself.
I think that's why people stick with you.
Yeah, man.
Listen,
at the end of the day, it's like management's like marriage, you know.
I don't really manage.
I don't recruit.
You know, like I never really recruit.
It's kind of all the word of mouth.
Wow.
You know, Jim talk, guys talk to each other.
They say, if somebody do right by you, you do right by him.
And
I've been working with people I want to work with and they want to work with me.
It's not like a forced relationship.
That's good.
So integrity is important to you.
And you know we sign a contract we keep going and sometime i don't even re-sign a second contract and
you know wow like guys like i've been with kamaro 10 years habib 10 years slam makhachev 10 years
henry's almost 10 years i've been uh kayla harrison almost 10 years
and guys who's the best in the business and they can leave anytime they want.
There's no paper, but you know, the relationship is good.
The trust is there.
The respect is there.
And
I just, it's been an awesome experience.
And
after almost 20 years now being a manager, I'm still hungry.
Every morning, I wake up.
I want to do something.
I'm still hungry.
I'm still driving.
And, you know, being a martial artist, too, I think this is a
big part of it, you know.
And I just, I'm grateful.
I love that drive.
A lot of fighters have issues with their managers and they swap managers pretty often, right?
Yeah, it's happening every day.
Yeah.
Why do you think that is?
I don't know.
I think a lot of the managers, some of them mean well, you know, and they make a lot of promises
that they can't keep.
Like one of the things I sign people, I don't make any promises.
And that's the first thing I say.
I'm not going to break any promise.
But every morning I wake up, I'm going to try to do the best I can.
And I will have my guys back 100%.
They have my back 100%.
Anything they need, I got them.
Anything I need, I got them.
It's a mutual relationship.
Yeah.
Have your clients ever had to fight each other?
Yeah, actually, Henry Sahuru fought Amarlon Moras for the UFC title.
Oh, and uh, that must have been tough for you to watch, right?
I didn't even go to the fight, I didn't, I don't, I just choose not to go to the fight.
Kamaro Osman fought Gerber Byrne for UFC title.
Oh, wow, and Kabib fought Justin Gish for UFC title.
I think I believe I'm the only manager in the business have three guys or even two guys fight each other for yeah, that's crazy.
It's just uh, you know, it's it proved.
I represent the best fighter in the world.
Hannah, you know, the last three pound-for-pound fighters in the sport was
Kamaro, Khabib.
It's retired.
Kamaro became the pound for pound number one.
Now it's Islam pound for pound number one.
Right.
Yeah.
And Islam is dominating right now.
Islam is, you know, he's he's, I think, uh,
he's, he's
good everywhere, man.
Yeah.
He's the best fighter in the world today.
Wow.
In all combat sports, in any sport.
He's the most dominant.
He finishes guys.
And even if we will compare him to John Jones, right?
Yeah.
Last four years, John Jones fought one time.
Islam fought nine times.
They both
last nine fight.
Islam have seven finishes, two decisions.
John Jones have seven decisions, two finishes.
Wow.
And I know Dana was saying John is pound for pound.
Maybe one of the greatest of all the time, but right now Islam is the pound for pound king right now.
Yeah, he's in his prime right now.
I feel like John Jones is past his prime.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I I didn't know that about this.
He's still good, so good, yeah, but you know, you know, he's a great fighter, but I think Islam right now is on a different level.
Yeah, who do you got winning the upcoming fights?
McGregor and uh Chandler.
I got Chandler, you got Chandler, yeah.
If it happened, if it happens, yeah, that's true.
If it happened,
I think, I think Chandler is more dedicated.
I think his wrestling,
if you fall smart, you know,
he should win.
What about Jamal Hill and Carlos ulberg
honesty is a it's an interesting fight you know the best guy in this division is uh is not alex pereira it's magamat uncalif
he's on a 10-fight winning streak and
you know alex pereira now is kind of protected he's become a little bit of star and the ufc is and i understand it it's a business and they're protected but the best light heavyweight in the world today is magamat ankalaif he's he's on the same level as khabib and he's on the same level of uh islam He's on the same level.
Wow.
Yeah, for sure.
Is he the champ right now?
He's not the champ.
He's on the same fight 20 street, but he haven't got a title shot yet.
Dang, what rank is he right now?
He's number two.
Oh, so he's about to get one soon then.
Yeah.
Whoever wins.
Sometimes there'll be politics.
Right.
Because John's been injured and I don't know who the champ is right now, but.
Perera.
Oh, Pereira?
Yeah.
Got it.
Who's he fighting next?
We don't know yet.
We don't know yet.
How much decision or how much control do you have in who you fight?
Do you get to pick?
It's a 50-50 between me and the afc like sometimes they want us to fight somebody sometimes we say yes sometimes we say no sometimes we request to fight people and they sometimes they say yes sometimes the other opponent they said no it's it's it's a matchmaker job yeah this you know in the ufc i've i honestly see some great matchmaker who guy named sean shelby and a gentleman named uh mick maner they both actually
they martial artists you know they uh they did martial art i think make got some fights or kickboxing fights And, you know, a lot of the boxing and stuff like that, all this promoter, they never box.
But now you have, that's why the UFC is the best or the MMA is the best because a lot of the people who work,
they actually competed or fought or they trained.
Right, yeah.
Khabib started his only two, right?
Huh?
Khabib.
Yeah, yeah.
He have his own league.
It's a little bit down now because, you know, there's Russia and sanctions and stuff.
Yeah.
And Daniel Cormay is still pretty active in the business.
So you're right.
A lot of the fighters end up working on the business off there, too.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
That's cool.
Yeah, boxing.
I'd rather watch UFC personally than boxing.
Oh, for sure.
It's a system.
It's consistent.
It's the show from the first fight to the last fight.
It's great, you know.
And yeah, it's good.
You know, and big fight, even
McGregor and Chandler, you know, McGregor is, he's, I don't think he's any good.
But people see going to tune in and still going to do big numbers, right?
You don't think he's good?
No,
I think he's trash.
really oh yeah mcgregor oh for sure wow he's trash what about in his prime though
he was a good he was good yeah but you know he's he's just uh i i don't like him as a person i don't respect him as a person i think he's a piece of wow yeah i don't think he's a good person yeah i mean you can't deny that after some incidents yeah it's not about and it's not about action you know like sometimes just uh this guy's fighters they go there and this whole thing goes habib and talk about his father and about his wife and about his family yeah about his religion, nation.
And that's why, you know,
we don't like this guy.
And if we see him anywhere, it'll probably be a problem.
Wow.
Yeah, that one got personal.
I remember that fight.
It was always going to be, it's not over.
Oh, it's still not over?
No, of course not.
Wow.
So you hold grudges.
I don't hold grudges.
He created a grudge.
I love that mindset.
When he created a grudge, you have to come out and apologize for it or you get dealt with.
You know.
He never apologized?
No.
Even after the fight he never apologized no wow that choke out seems talking shit every fight
but that's a lot of marketing too i think it doesn't matter you just at the end of the day you can market so much but you have to have integrity you have to have level of respect of other people ethnicity religions family you never bring family in business you don't bring family don't bring religious it's not good just talk about him as much as you want there's no problem talk he can say whatever you want but talk how are you gonna bring somebody's father or wife or mother?
It's just
a low, low trash.
Raga's low.
He's trash.
He's had the biggest falloff I've seen in the UFC space.
He's still a star.
People still buy the hype.
But at the end of the day, if you fight Islam Makhachaf, you finish him in a round or two.
That's that quick, you think?
Oh, for sure.
It wouldn't even be a close.
Damn.
It won't even be a close fight.
Yeah, I feel like his style is the sports evolved so much, right?
His style is not as effective.
Listen, at the end of the day, he was well-matched.
He had the right opponent.
But when he fought guys like Habib, he destroyed him.
That was four rounds, though, right?
Yeah, but Habib mulled him every round.
He beat him.
It's easy to just...
Habib can beat.
Habib said this.
I can't have finished him in the first round.
Really?
He just kept punishing and punishing.
He wanted it to drag on.
Yeah, for sure.
To drag on, just to make him suffer.
That's funny.
Yeah, for sure.
Who was his toughest opponent?
Did he ever tell you?
Who?
Habib?
Man, honestly, Habib, he's the only fighter in UFC history.
He's never been dropped.
Never been cut.
Never have a bloody nose.
No cut.
I watched this man spar for 10 years.
I never seen him lose around in training.
Holy crap.
Never see him lost a tap to nobody.
He's this dominant, man.
He's the most dominant fighter in history.
Wow.
For sure.
That's crazy.
So he never had any problems.
No.
Damn.
damn.
He's different.
He was never going to be at the second half.
Yeah.
Yeah, it'd be tough.
I mean, he was undefeated.
That doesn't happen these days.
No.
Even Sean O'Malley has a loss, right?
Sugar Sean, he's already got a loss on his belt.
Yeah, and he'll lose again.
You think so?
Because he's ranked, he's a champ now, right?
He's the champ.
But you got Khabiba's little brother coming up.
So he's going to have troubles with him, you think?
He will have problems with him.
You training him too?
He's part of the team.
Oh, Oh, God.
18 and 0.
You got a recipe, man.
You got a formula.
Undefeated.
You know, he's the next big star.
Wow.
From this region.
How do you pick who you take on?
Man, it's just this Dagestan region, you know, when 10 years ago, nobody wants to touch this region.
And I started helping guys out to bring him to the U.S.
to fight.
And now everybody jumping on it, but it's a little bit too late for some people.
Right.
What makes that region so tough, you think?
I think this, you know, history, so many wars.
Dagestan, it's 3 million people.
It's have more Olympic champion there in freestyle wrestling than anywhere in the world.
Wow.
You know this?
I didn't know that.
100%.
That's crazy.
You grew up in Egypt, right?
Yeah.
That's cool.
I'm going there next month.
Yeah.
With Billy Carson, yeah.
Who's Billy Carson?
He's like a spiritual guy.
He's taking me on a tour of the pyramids and stuff.
Cool, cool.
Yeah.
Let me know.
I'm excited, dude.
I heard it's a little dangerous, but...
No, no, no.
No, man.
It's safe.
Okay.
If they are American, they love Americans.
Oh, yeah.
But you just go in the wrong time.
It's going to be so hot there.
When's the right time, then, you think?
Between October to like April.
I think we're scheduled October 5th.
October is okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm really excited, man.
Yeah, it's good.
How's the food out there?
It's amazing.
Yeah.
George Saint-Pierre went there, and I take care of him when he's there.
He had the best time.
Oh, I love that.
Habib was there too
last year.
Exactly.
Nice.
Yeah.
When did you move over here?
I was
almost 18 years old.
Okay.
I was part of the Egyptian national team.
They have some tournament, U.S.
Open.
I come.
I met a guy by the name, Eddie Lady, who's the Olympic coach at the time.
And he's like, hey, you want to stay?
And I just stayed.
You know, I stayed.
I began training at the Olympics in Excel, Colorado Springs, and working on the side, helping my family.
Yeah.
And this is how I began.
Was this for soccer or for fighting?
Judo.
Oh, judo.
Yeah.
So I know you played soccer too.
Sometime I played soccer.
Yeah, I did my research.
Sometime.
Okay.
So you got into fighting early, though.
You got into judo early?
Yeah.
I was five years old.
Five?
Wow.
Was your dad a judo expert?
No.
My cousin, my older cousin, was a was a national champion.
And I started like, he took me with him and I started training.
Wow.
That's awesome, man.
I saw you and Donald Trump had a photo together.
Yeah, man.
He's he's the best, man.
He's going to be in Vegas tomorrow.
I'm going to see him tomorrow.
Yeah, at the Ahern, right?
I'm gonna see him tomorrow.
Yeah, did you get a lot of hate for supporting him?
I don't really care.
I don't care.
I don't care what people think.
I think this man is.
I know a lot of people know him.
Dana know him really well.
And the guy always keeps his word.
He's very kind.
He's very witty.
He's smart.
Look at the economy.
The average oil gas prices was $2.
Now it's $450,000.
The average home is $300,000.
Now his average home is like $450,000.
Everything has become so much more.
Since Joe Biden took office, the last four years got 13 million illegal immigrants.
When Donald Trump was the president, it was 1.7 million.
Jeez.
You know what I'm saying?
This is 13 million more than a lot of country population.
People come here.
And people a lot of say, you know, I'm Muslim.
You know, I'm devout Muslim.
I believe in in Allah and I believe in God
in just the period, you know.
And uh, and people said he doesn't like Muslims.
People, I didn't know this.
I found out his son-in-law who married Tiffany Trump, he's Lebanese, and he has Sean Jared Kushner, he marries to Avanka.
He's Jewish, right?
And how you think you don't like Arabs or Muslims or Middle Eastern?
You marry your son to one, you know what I'm saying?
And I think just people
don't like this this man some because he's not a politician.
He doesn't fit in a circle.
But Donald Trump is a very sincere man.
See, the whole thing is going on.
He's the only president over four years, U.S.
president, did not
went to war with any Muslim nation, with any nation at all.
There was no war in four years.
It was peace.
He got all the truth back from Iraq.
He got all the truth back from Afghanistan.
And
how are you going to compare him now?
You have war in Ukraine.
You have Israel people, 40,000 people dying, you know?
And when Habib met him, he said, hey, Habib told him, I know you're going to stop this war.
Donald Trump immediately.
And I truly believe, I know a lot of people around him.
Donald Trump is all about peace.
He's all about business, all about making the economy better.
You know what I'm saying?
He's a great human being.
And he treats,
I know people known for 20 years.
He treats him really well.
He's very, very kind man.
Yeah.
And look, man, now it's like a terrible country.
Now they try to put the opponent who runs for the election in jail.
This is like, yeah, he got convicted.
It's crazy.
33 felonies or something.
It's crazy.
But honestly, they put him to jail, automatically, he became the president.
Yeah, for sure.
People are waking up.
People waking up.
Yeah.
Because if they can do this to him, what they can do to us?
Yeah, for real.
They can put the president in jail.
We're just easy.
For sure.
I mean, damn.
Yeah, I saw that video of him in Habib, though.
He really looked genuine about his answer.
100%.
He's a very genuine man.
He's a very good man.
His kids is great.
Everybody around him is good people, you know.
And,
you know, his son-in-law is Michael.
He's a Lebanese guy.
And his father, they're very wealthy people.
I think they're billionaires.
You meet these people, they act like they're one of the most humblest people you could ever meet.
Him and his father, right?
And in a way, like
you cannot tell me.
I experienced dealing with these people, talking to them.
You understand?
You know, and it's just that Donald Trump is the right guy for this country, man.
The economy was better.
The border was secure.
It was no war, you know.
And American taxpayer was not sending $140 billion to Ukraine for a war.
The U.S.
have nothing to do with it.
They just saw what the president of Ukraine was spending it on.
Did you see this?
He's been buying luxury cars and luxury resorts and all this crap.
He's a punk.
Yeah, it's crazy.
We're literally giving tax dollars to that.
Your money and my money, my kids' college fund is all going to these people.
Yep.
I just paid 300k in tax.
That's going to that.
Crazy, man.
It's going to the Ukraine president who I don't really support.
And he's paying for cars and houses.
I know people from Ukraine, they have empowered.
But listen, the war is serious now, you know.
But,
you know, Donald Trump, North Korea, he visited North Korea present.
He was have a relationship with Putin, with all this president.
It was peace.
With the Middle East, he was respected, well-respected.
Right now, the United States is not well respected because it's not represented well.
And this is what I, you know, in the Middle East was the peace treaty between Israel and Palestine.
In the Abraham Accord, right?
Everybody was happy.
Donald Trump did this.
But now he left.
This peace treaty went to the garbage.
Yep.
President can barely stand up.
For sure.
Let alone give a speech i see videos all the time yeah for sure him falling i i can't believe he's president
it's time for a change yeah every time trump goes to a ufc event standing applause oh yeah did he go to ufc event yeah
every time i'm there he gets applaused when the last time you go to ufc event uh it's been like a year maybe a year yeah there's one coming up right this month june 29th yeah 304.
yeah i i might try to get to that one i've been to the power slap too have you been to that yet yeah power slap's great you like power slap
do you go there yeah i thought you wouldn't like it because uh the fighters think it's kind of funny that's cool
anything dano white does i support man he's he's my guy he's he's been there for me since day one that's loyalty if if he
if he have a league like
Jumping Jack, I'll support it.
He's a good guy.
He's very genuine.
And normally promoter and manager don't have a good relationship, right?
But I know what Dana White does behind clothes to and what the things he helps, what the things he does.
You understand?
And on a personal level, I love him and I respect him.
Sometimes business, we don't see eye to eye, but this is business.
Yeah.
You can agree on everything in life, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of promoters have issues with managers, especially in boxing.
For sure.
I got no issue with nobody.
I love him, man.
I'm Swisterland.
Any upcoming fights here you guys are focused on right now?
Yeah, many, you know, you got Umar, Habib's brother, fighting Corey San Hagen.
Main event, August 3rd.
Nice.
You know,
you got Kayla Harrison.
She just came over to the UFC.
She's probably going to fight for the number one contender match.
You know, it's so many fights, brother, left and rights.
Yeah.
It's a lot of big fights coming up.
Are all your fighters in Vegas?
No, no.
They're all over around the world, man.
So how do you train them?
I don't, I'm, I'm the manager.
I train some of the guys who are here.
I train them, but I'm not a coach, But a lot of the guys who I manage, I train.
Got it.
But I just do it because just out of love and other, you know, just
to respect him and just give him some knowledge.
I learned from someone, you know.
Yeah.
Man, you are a legend in this sport, dude.
And you're so young, too.
But you still have that fire in you.
It's impressive.
Man, I love, man.
Listen, I'm a poor kid from Egypt.
I never thought I'll be here today.
I just, I never dreamt to have anything I have.
And I just have a gratitude and I'm very grateful what I have.
Yeah.
How did you keep that mindset with all the success?
Was it hard battling your ego?
No, man, it's just
going to the gym and training with these guys, getting beat up and that will humble you.
Yeah, you get humbled every day, probably, right?
And I get humbled every day.
I was looking up your Wikipedia.
You fought for a bit too.
A little bit.
I was not a great fighter.
I just kind of, you know, and this is why I made a lot of mistakes as a fighter, right?
And that's what I tried not to make this mistake as a manager, you know, just to make sure my guys have the right moment, the right time.
And when I have three fights, I have 30 fights.
I have no business fighting this guy, right?
But in a way, now I slowly try to build guys, be smart about their career, about their growth, and stuff like that.
Right.
So you thought you could beat him, but he had so much experience that
I, you know, I have a manager who offered me 25 grand to fight somebody in Japan who's a legend.
I flew to Japan, fought him, and I lost.
Damn.
You know, but you needed the money at the time.
So
I really thought I'll beat him.
Listen, I have a mindset.
I think I see I'm old.
I still can beat people who are professional fighters.
Maybe it's delusional, but this is my mindset.
It's a winner mindset.
All it takes is one good move, one good punch, one good counter, right?
You never know.
You never know.
Go on me or on him.
What do you think of Sean Strickland?
He's been pretty viral.
Man, it's like, listen, you know, he said some stuff.
you know i kind of
you know uh
i agree with and he said a a lot of stuff, you know, I don't agree with, you know, but, you know, I think Sean
has come a long way.
You know, he's a good fighter, you know.
And I, you know, he's, he keep winning fights.
You know, he keeps winning fights.
You can't deny him he's nice about fighter.
About his personality, he's just a little bit different.
Yeah, he's an interesting one to me because he doesn't have good mind control, right?
His emotions, but he's able to really perform well.
Maybe he speaks his mind, you know, but I think he's very smart.
I think like he's calculated i think he's calculated and i think he he never talked but when he started talking people start buying into it right and he piss people off and he make other people happy and long as you people listening it's good yeah what qualities do you see in all the champions you see anything similar
Everybody's different, man.
You got the Habib crew, you got the Omar, the Habib, the Osman, you know, and you got the Henry Sahuru, the Kamaro, Osman, they're different.
Everybody's so different, man.
It's so diverse.
You know, UFCA, almost 30, 40 countries have guys from, you know.
Yeah.
And it's just, and it's grown, let's keep growing.
UFC is almost 178 countries around damage, right?
That's incredible.
And I just, the sport is growing every, the sport only been around for 30 years, you know, and it's already massive.
Can you imagine in the next 20 years how big the sport will be?
It's going to be huge.
They're already doing a fight a week week or something, right?
Every week.
Every week.
Every week is a fight.
That's crazy.
How much of it is just natural talent versus work ethic in your experience?
Listen, talent is always good.
But work, work,
you know, hard work could be talent.
A lot of guys who's talented, but they're lazy.
A lot of guys who's not very talented, but they work hard.
And they will always be the...
beat the talented guys.
But also have some talented guys who can train hard, you know.
Because
a lot of guys, talented, they depend on their talent, right?
Right, but talent can carry so much.
But when it, you know, but you have to put talent with hard work, you need both.
You have to, yeah, John Jones, right?
He's talented, he doesn't work hard.
No, it's like he's just a different guy, man.
He
John Jones should have been like Michael Jordan.
He should have, you know, he should have been such a massive star, but he demised himself.
Taking PED,
get in car accidents, driving drunk, going to jail.
But who I am to judge, he's a human being.
He's still one of the greatest of all the time.
I can't take this away from him.
But he has some stuff in front of his name.
It's always going to be there.
Yeah.
Well, back then, it was more common, right, to take stuff like 20 years ago.
No, no.
Oh, it wasn't.
He was not coming.
Oh, really?
He got busted for it.
Oh, I thought a lot of the fighters like early on in the UFC were taking
John Jung was he was not fighting 20 years ago.
Yeah, maybe 10, 15.
Like he got busted two times.
Yeah, but you know, I don't know what he took.
You know, I don't get into these things, but when it comes to like Barry Bond, right, he was not in the Hall of Fame for a long time because
I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame.
I think they took it away.
Yeah, same with A-Rod, too.
And I think if you use any performance enhanced, you should not be in the Hall of Fame.
You should not be considered one of the greatest.
Wow.
In my opinion, for sure.
Dang.
Because you cheated.
What about Ryan Garcia?
Ryan Garcia, the things he took is
Australine.
Australian is some supplement.
I think it's a mistake.
Okay.
I like Ryan Garcia.
I think it's
a little bit out there.
I think this is accidental because I know this happened to a lot of guys.
Really?
It's astronomy things.
It's an a lot of supplement.
And people take the supplement and make mistakes.
Yeah, they they found out those two supplements actually had it in it.
So that might clear him.
We'll see.
He will get a little punishment, but not much.
Yeah.
Do you follow boxing at all?
Yeah, I do.
A lot of your fighters want to transition into that eventually?
Not really.
Honestly.
Really?
No.
Because the money's really good in it, right?
Yeah, but in a way, like, you know.
You can't bring an MMA fighter to box and you can't take a boxer to MMA.
It's very hard.
It's completely different sports.
You know.
Yeah, well, Usman held his own for a bit.
Kamar Osman, yeah.
Yeah, he's he's he's he's one of the greatest ever.
Yeah, he's the greatest hit, like Walter Wait of all the time.
Wow, that's what Dana said, and that's what I believe.
Damn, I think he bypassed George Saint-Pierre, bypassed all those guys.
Love that, man.
Well, what do you got working on next, and where can people find you?
Uh, man, um, you know,
people can find me just Instagram, Ali Abdelaziz, double, double zero.
Um,
just uh, you know, i i believe
by the next year
i'm making some prediction magamat anklef will become the ufc light heavyweight champion i believe kayla harrison will be
she's the number one contender she'll be the next ufc heavyweight champion i believe umar habib's brother will be the umali will be the ufc panthem weight champion
i have a lot i have a lot of champions and i believe bilal muhammad will beat leon headworth in london and he'll become you of see lightweight champion this year wow
I love it, man.
We'll see if it comes true.
I can see it.
Yeah, and listen.
This is where I predict.
Maybe I'm a little bit biased, but my prediction all the time comes true.
Yeah, you got to start betting, putting some money behind these.
Don't bet.
I can't bet.
Yeah, you probably can't.
You know too much.
Thanks for coming on, man.
My pleasure.
Yeah, thanks for watching, guys.
As always, see you next time.