Is Social Media Flexing Hurting Your Business? | Harry Paul Davies DSH #707

How lucky you are to be born in a first world country.

You know, if you take a trip like I have to some of the Eastern European countries or anywhere in Africa, anywhere like that,

you pretty quickly realize just how lucky you are.

And your problems and family issues and whatever are pretty small in comparison to what is actually going on in the world.

So you have to have some perspective on it.

Otherwise, you'll end up driving yourself crazy.

Yeah, first world problems, right?

Exactly.

All right, guys, we got Harry Paul Davis here today.

Pulled up in the Aston Martin, man.

Nice to meet you.

Good stuff.

And you got quite a bit, big car collection, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Cars is always something I've been super into.

I think if you grew up in the UK,

you obviously grew up watching James Bond and that whole thing, and obviously Aston Martin, the principal brand of that, has always been something that I've wanted.

I've got three of them now.

Dang.

But yeah, always been a massive, massive fan to me.

That's impressive.

Are cars more expensive out there in the UK?

No, the complete opposite.

So I'll tell you a story.

So in the UK, you can pick up McLaren 720S, which is a car I bought in the US last week.

In the US, quarter million dollars.

In the UK, 120,000 pounds.

Whoa.

Yeah.

So that's like almost half the price.

Literally, you're looking about 40% off off UK car.

And there's no tax on it as well in the UK.

There's no like state tax or anything like that.

So I wonder if you could arbitrage that, start buying them there.

And then...

The problem is the hand of drive.

So obviously in the UK, you're on left-hand drive.

In the US, no, all the way around.

Sorry.

In the UK, you've got right-hand drive, US, left-hand drive.

And the problem with that is they don't like you bringing cars that have got the wrong steering wheel essentially on what they consider the wrong size over.

Otherwise, you could probably make an absolute killing.

And it'd probably be expensive to change the side of the wheel.

Yeah, and also when you take the car in for service, like the parts won't match up and whatever.

So it's a bit of a hassle.

But I mean, the car prices in the UK are dramatically, dramatically changing.

Interesting.

How do you feel about McLaren's?

Because I hear negative things about them.

Well, I bought one a week ago and it's already broken.

So yeah,

at the end of the day, you know, they are a bit unreliable, but the reason for that is they're just ridiculously fast.

If you make something that fast, you can't really expect it to be 100% reliable all the time.

It doesn't weigh anything.

They're obviously skimping on that, kind of cutting over the quality to make it incredibly, incredibly fast.

But luckily, I mean, I bought mine from a client, so I got a warranty.

That's

the infotainment stopped working.

But the worst part about that is that the infotainment is also what controls the air conditioning.

And it wasn't on, and I had to drive it to the service center for an hour in the LA heat.

So yeah, that a weekend to get in the car.

But it is what it is.

It's first world problems.

Crazy.

And you just turned 22.

Just turned 22.

We got to dive into how you're even affording this at this age.

Yeah.

For sure.

So I own an OnlyFans management agency.

Now, that's something that I've done for a little bit over two years.

And there's kind of two elements of that.

So we have the management agency and then we also have the consulting part.

So where you know other agencies will essentially pay us for coaching and consulting or even you know guys will maybe pay us to actually just start that agency from scratch as a business model.

And those are kind of the two elements.

Now I was working at a place called Morrison's in the UK.

You've been to the UK haven't you?

I haven't actually.

You have never been okay cool.

In Ireland.

Morrison's is essentially like the equivalent of maybe like Walmart over here.

That's a supermarket is what we call it.

You call it a grocery store.

Now I was I was working in the yogurt section.

So So, my job was basically you take the pallet of yogurts and butter from the back

and you take it to the front, stack it in all the fridges, make sure that everything's kind of like arranged nicely.

And that's what I was doing at the time.

Now,

a girl that worked there with me was on break one day, and she said, Oh, look at this.

I made $200 last night.

And obviously, at the time, bear in mind in the UK, minimum wage is £8.50 an hour.

So, 10-ish dollars.

It's not as good as the minimum wage here.

That's what I was working for.

And she was like, oh, I made $200 last night.

And I was like, what?

Like, that's fucking crazy.

How did you do that?

And she showed me her OnlyFans account.

And obviously, at the time, there was a lot more of a stigma around OnlyFans.

I mean, nowadays, you know, it's very much socially accepted.

You know, a lot of girls are kind of very supportive, you know, you go girl, et cetera, et cetera.

At the time, it wasn't like that.

At the time, OnlyFans was viewed

as essentially as, you know, like a big kind of porn website.

It was very, very taboo.

And I was like, whoa, oh my God, no, like, that's crazy.

You're doing this, you're doing this.

And she was like, oh, actually, no, I literally just sold a picture of me in a bikini to some guy that was speaking to me on there.

And I was like, so hold on, you, you, you were at home, you know, just got off shift, whatever, and you made $200 just from selling a picture that you'd post on Instagram anyway.

And she was like, yeah.

I was like, holy shit, that's crazy.

So I knew a little bit about kind of marketing, et cetera, on TikTok, because like every young guy has nowadays, I'm sure you haven't, probably anyone watching this has as well.

You know, I'd tried a couple of business models, you know, I tried the organic drop shipping with TikTok.

So I had a little bit of understanding about, you know, how to do marketing, et cetera,

online.

So I just said to her, I was like, well, if I can help you grow this, you know, can you pay me?

So she was paying me $200 a week and I'd essentially help her with TikToks and stuff, send over ideas and whatnot and try and really grow that.

And it worked.

Now, at that point, I thought, hmm, with the amount that she's making here, because back in the day, it was even easier to earn on OnlyFans.

You know, you've got, you know, nowadays there's more people on it.

So there's more competition.

Back then, it was not like that.

It was incredibly, incredibly easy, kind of the golden age, really.

And essentially, she,

I was helping her, and I kind of thought to myself, well, you know, if you're making all this, okay, why don't I just take a percentage and help you?

Now, started doing that.

Okay.

So that was cool.

Now, what happened was one weekend, weekend she went out i think she went on like a little girls holiday or whatever didn't bother answering any of the messages whatever and i logged into the account on monday and kind of hardly any money had been made so i thought to myself i was like hold on a second like sure there's got to be a better way of doing this where you know you can have somebody on the account 24 hours a day okay like like a like like if you start a big business now you know you need to have 24 hour customer support it just gives gives you you know a really good experience and That was when I had the idea of hiring somebody to do the chatting for her, right?

So I hired one of my friends at the time and I was like, well, I'll give you 20% of whatever you make.

He hopped on the account and started working.

Now, the real, real big change occurred when I realized that you could have multiple people logged into an account at one time.

I didn't even know if that was a thing, right?

I was literally a total, total newbie to it.

And essentially, then from that point onwards, I had multiple chatters on the account, kind of working 24-7.

took on more clients and it grew pretty dramatically from there.

And then about a year or so ago, because we had so many agencies coming to me and my business partner Marcus asking, asking for advice and asking for help.

We thought, you know, why don't we start charging for this?

And then the consulting branch was born.

And since then, we've helped over a thousand guys start agencies from scratch and make money.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, that's kind of how I essentially got into it.

And where the business is at now.

Yeah, so people think they're chatting to the girl, but it's just some guy in India.

Yeah, funnily, it's funny you say that the Philippines is usually the best place to search chatters from.

The quality of English is great, and obviously

the labor costs are very, very low, so the profit margins are good.

Got it.

I mean our staff in the Philippines are balling out.

$400 in the Philippines is like 3x what the normal wage is.

That's wild.

Let's talk about some of the downsides of this because your parents actually cut you off because of this, right?

Yeah, okay, cool.

So I've never even talked about this on the podcast before, so kind of probably a good place to start.

So my parents are kind of fairly religious.

They're very much of the, you know, kind of the normal nine to five mindset.

I'm not going to go into the whole cringy, oh, they're in the matrix, whatever, but that kind of element.

As 99.9% of people's parents are.

I don't know how your parents are.

They definitely were.

Exactly.

They were until they saw what you were doing.

You know, I feel that you can't really blame parents for that because it's how they were raised.

It's how they were brought up.

They were brought up in a totally different time.

Right.

So, yeah, as soon as they kind of found out what I was doing, I'll tell you the story a bit.

So I started making some money.

Obviously, I've always loved my cars.

Now, my first ever nice car was a Jaguar F-pace, like a 4x4 Jaguar.

Not really that common over here, but in the UK, Jaguars are pretty cool.

And I drove home, came home in that, had it like fully blacked out, like a proper drug dealer spec car, right?

And they kind of sat me down and they were like, you know, like, what's going on?

You know, you know, a couple of months ago, you were working at Morrison's and now you're driving around in a 40-grand car.

And yeah, I just explained it to them.

And then they were like, you know, like, we can't, sorry, we don't want to be associated with this.

And I've not really, not really spoken to them since.

Holy crap.

I know.

And I know that that sounds so, so wild.

And obviously, it's unfortunate that I don't have a closer relationship with my parents.

You know, it is something that is, it's not ideal.

But at the end of the day, and the way that I kind of view life and I view everything in general is, you know, many, many people would kill for what I've got now in terms of the money, the cars, the property, whatever, right?

They would kill to have my life.

Okay.

And there's people in the world with horrific, horrific situations, you know.

So I'm not going to sit here and I'm not going to live every single day of my life being upset about something that's happened because I've got to do what's right for myself and what I know is right for me.

You know, there's always somebody in life.

And this is whenever I hear any of my friends who are very, very wealthy complaining or, you know, they're depressed or whatever, I always say, you know,

you've got to realize how lucky you are.

You've got to realize how lucky you are to be born in a first world country.

If you take a trip like I have to some of the Eastern European countries or

anywhere in Africa, anywhere like that.

You pretty quickly realize just how lucky you are.

And your problems and family issues and whatever are pretty small in comparison to what is actually going on in the world.

So you have to have some perspective on it.

Otherwise, you'll end up driving yourself crazy.

Yeah, first world problems, right?

Exactly.

That's a big one, though.

I feel like because OnlyFans is more normalized now, do you you think it's worth reaching back out because you also don't even see any of your talent you're not really picking these girls out this is this is another thing another thing i kind of want to address because the only fans industry as a whole in my opinion gets a really really bad name but it only gets a bad name because there are a few bad apples right now with our agency and the way that we work i've never met a model in real life i've got no i have no intention of doing so it just doesn't need to be done we run we run an extremely professional marketing agency

and that that's it i i don't need to have any sort of personal relationship with the models everyone online's always like, oh, do you date your models as well?

It's fucking stupidity like that.

No, I run a marketing agency and I run a business.

Of course, yeah, I have a really great working relationship with a lot of the models we work with because if somebody came along and made you a few million dollars, you're probably going to have a really good relationship with them, no?

Yeah.

But no, I never

that you never want to blur the the the line of kind of personal and business.

But no, you are right.

It's becoming more socially accepted.

And in my opinion, that is a good thing because at the end of the day, if these models weren't on only fans what what else would they be doing if if you know if they're on only fans maybe they'd be doing i don't know prostitution something like that something that's actually dangerous right you know if anything only fans has essentially developed the sex industry to become not only safer but also more profitable that that's the way that i view it now yeah well a lot of people mix in the red pill movement with the of mesh so i could see why it gets bad right yeah exactly i i feel like it's running a marketing agency you know you're you're essentially helping to to market a product which is the the the girl or the guys or the trans, whatever, OnlyFans.

You know, we have male models, we have female models, we have trans models, black, white, it doesn't matter.

There's a market for everything, but you're running a professional marketing agency.

And this is something that I make very, very clear to anyone that, you know, joins our info product company and kind of hops on board with us for the consulting part.

It's you're running a professional business.

You're not trying to become the next fucking, I don't know, fur coat wearing, cigar smoking, whatever.

It's not the way I did things.

Let's dive into hell.

So you pulled up drinking a monster.

You said you eat McDonald's chicken nuggets every day.

Most days.

Do you think that's sustainable over time?

Because you're young now.

Yeah.

So do you think this biohacking health movement is

I think the whole biohacking health movement, it's gone too far.

I agree to an extent with, you know, you know, eating healthy, it's good for you.

You know, if I'm going to cut or whatever, yeah, okay, I'll eat healthy.

I'll cut down on the chicken nuggets, whatever.

But really, you know...

all these people that are coming on and they're saying, oh, you can't drink water unless it's in a glass bottle, which I see you've got a glass bottle there.

Or you can't drink water out of plastic bottles because of microplastics.

Grow the fuck up.

Like, our ancestors were drinking water out of rivers, right?

Yeah.

People in Africa drinking water out of dirty, disease-infested lakes.

And, you know, for the most part, it's not, it's not terrible.

So I really don't feel like if we're, if you know, if you're in a first world country and you're drinking from these, these plastic bottles or whatever, or, you know, you're, you're not going to drink this milk because it's been pasteurized, it's over the top, in my opinion.

Yeah, there's a lot of people drinking raw milk right now.

I don't get it at all.

And eating raw meat.

Yes.

Yeah.

So, yeah, a very, very good friend of mine.

He's big on the raw.

I actually tried it the other day.

I'll send you a video afterwards if you want to put it up on the screen.

You guessed it?

No, I was absolutely fine off it.

But I mean, it didn't taste as good as cooked meat.

So I didn't really kind of understand.

Are you big into the whole...

I don't eat just

raw meat.

I mean, I'd rather eat cooked meat too.

I mean, but I would say I'm pretty health conscious.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's important because you want to optimize your health because it affects your business.

You're You're young, so you could eat whatever the fuck you want right now.

Like I was like that too.

I used to eat fast food chipotle every single day.

But you'll see as you get older, it'll change.

We'll see.

No, trust me, it will.

I get sore after just going on a run these days.

Like it sucks getting older.

There is definitely a genetic element to it as well.

Yeah.

If your grandparents live really long.

Yeah.

Okay.

So you got genes on your side.

Hopefully.

But doctors say that's only 20% of it, to be honest.

I feel like I agree.

Obviously, eating healthy is a good thing.

That's known.

You know, if you eat too much fast food, you will get fat, right?

For sure.

But all these people that

have a genuine fear of eating fast food every once in a while or drinking from a plastic bottle or having them having a monster, that's when it becomes a little bit ridiculous, in my opinion.

I feel that.

I'd be interested to see your blood results.

I'll do it.

If you've got to connect, I'll do it.

I feel like

it will be good.

We'll set it up.

I mean, we'll see where your testosterone's at.

Mine was low, dude.

Yeah.

Do you feel like you got good tea levels?

Yeah.

I'm strong.

I box four times a week.

Oh, shit.

You're boxing?

Yeah.

Like, professionally, or just no, just like I'm at it.

Okay.

I don't think it's worth it for like the health reasons.

Oh, boxing.

Well, just the brain damage.

I mean, we could get into this, but look at a lot of professional fighters that are retired and look at the brain damage they've sustained.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean,

it's like everything in life.

There's always a risk and a reward.

You know, if you're a professional fighter and you're making a hell of a lot of money, and you're doing it for sure, I've got a very, very good friend of mine who is a world champion boxer.

And he, in his eyes, he said he already feels some of the effects effects of it, which obviously is a shame.

He gets can be forgetful, um, you know, has a bit of memory loss every now and then, or whatever.

And obviously, that's not good, but then he's getting paid $10 million a fight, and that's going to set his family up for generations on generations.

So, I mean, it's where you draw the line, right?

Kind of comes down to where you feel comfortable taking that risk.

And obviously, people have different risk tolerances.

That makes sense.

Yeah, if you're willing to throw away a bit of your health, maybe some years off your life to save money for your family, I could see that 100%.

I think I'm a little too selfish for that.

Yeah, yeah,

I don't got kids yet or anything.

I saw one of your YouTube videos.

You were shopping for an $8 million house in LA.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, so I'm looking to buy a house in LA.

Damn.

Why LA?

I just love it.

I've always loved it.

And the reason, the reason that I'm obviously living there now is I just

grew up watching American TV.

If anyone's watching this and has ever watched a show called Modern Family, I don't know if you've seen it.

I've heard of it.

Yeah, Modern Family.

Sitcom based in LA, right?

And

it just, I grew up watching it every day.

I've always loved LA.

Obviously, I played GTA as a kid.

I know this, this probably to the the outside looking in sounds such a ridiculous place, such a ridiculous, ridiculous reason for kind of living somewhere.

But I just think it's the coolest place ever.

I don't know, the Hollywood Hills, the Glittering Gland, I really like it.

The weather's hard to beat.

Yes, I agree with that as well.

And there's not many other places in the world, especially with California, where you can go surfing in the morning and can be skiing in the afternoon.

Right.

As well.

Business is great.

Weather is great.

Taxes are not great.

Not great.

But if you're willing to pay 15%.

I mean,

I just get a really good vibe there.

So I think sometimes you just got to do what you know is right.

And obviously, proximity to Vegas is great as well.

I just drove here for the weekend.

Yeah.

It's a cool place to live.

It's hard to beat.

I spent a bit of time in Miami, but I wasn't a huge fan, to be fair.

I don't like the energy there.

It's just scammish.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Too many people renting Lamborghinis and Shilling Corps.

Yeah.

I'm not a fan of the, we could get into this, the flexing on social media.

Okay, interesting.

Yeah.

What do you think of that?

Like, I get it from a business point of view.

Yeah.

Like, I feel like if you're flexing just to flex, you're probably a bit of a prick.

But if you're doing it from a business point of of view, because at the end of the day, it gets eyes, as you know.

Why do you think I've got a cowboy hat on right now?

You know what I mean?

You do have to do things with social media to get eyes.

It's always been, you know, it was the same 20 years ago, you know, do something controversial in the media and the newspapers will come out and there'll be a big story on it, whatever.

You really do have to...

put yourself out there and the flex is a part of that.

You know, it's the glamour of the lifestyle, especially if you're in something where it's info product related or it's related to helping people start a business or scale their business.

If I'm just sat in a in a shit one-bedroom apartment i could have you know a few million dollars in the bank account but who gives a shit because no one's going to see that and it doesn't come across as well you know that's why i mean why do you think the watch industry is such a huge thing because it's almost like a an essentially a bit of a statement element really without um you know without having kind of the rest of it so i in my opinion i think yeah the flexing if you're just doing it to flex is not great i mean that's it's kind of just arrogance at that point but Most people that you see doing it are doing it from a business point of view.

I'm certainly doing it from a business point of view.

Yeah.

I don't like doing it.

It doesn't make me particularly happy.

If I could have it my way and, you know, have all the money that I've got now and live a completely anonymous life and have no social media, I'd do it.

It would be a lot simpler of a life, you know, but unfortunately, that's not the way the world works.

Yeah.

The last time I flexed materialism, I almost got robbed.

So I do not do it anymore.

And now I flex just travel.

Yeah.

But

that's a flex in itself, though.

You know, if you're watching and you can appreciate the fact that you fly into all these different countries staying at these lovely places, you know,

people can definitely associate a value with that.

So it's flexing in a way.

It's just whether, you know, not everyone has to be there with the watches doing all this.

100%.

That's actually one of my favorite ways to spend money.

Yeah.

Travel.

Travel?

Yeah.

What kind of places have you been to?

Been to 15 countries.

I'd say Greece is top and Thailand was really fun.

Thailand.

I've heard a lot about Thailand, like Bali and all those places.

You could live like a king there, dude.

Yeah.

Someone was saying this.

Isn't it like the cost of living is very, very low.

Dude, 5K a month and you're top of the top out there, which is crazy because that gets you shit in LA.

That's mental.

Yeah.

It's less than my rent.

I know.

That's what I mean, dude.

I mean, living here, we can live almost anywhere else and be really set, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, that's what linking back to a lot of the employees we have in the Philippines.

I mean, they're living on what we're paying.

They're living a very, very comfortable life.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

It is.

But it's hard to beat the US overall.

Oh, I agree.

I've never felt as much freedom as I feel here.

You know, when I was in Dubai for quite a long time, I felt a little bit claustrophobic.

That's a bit of a weird way to describe living somewhere.

But yeah, I just feel here.

You feel free.

Obviously, the country is so massive.

You can go to, I just can't wait to explore other different places.

And I'm a big big, as you can probably tell with the cowboy boots, people can't see that but I'm a really big country music fan so I can't wait to go to Nashville do all of that as well And just explore really because as you say I am starting to enjoy the travel more like

the materialistic stuff with like the cars and watches etc.

It's good for business.

I really do enjoy it.

But I mean I've got a lot of cars.

It's not it's kind of it is losing its effect on me.

I'm not finding it as enjoyable as it was.

So now I'm really looking forward to definitely exploring the US more.

And Nashville is first on the list.

Yeah, I want to go there too.

I'm done with watches, dude.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I have five.

What's the point?

I I agree.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, fair enough.

You can only wear one a day.

So I'm not, I'm not, and I'm not really a big, big watch guy.

I don't even wear them.

No.

People don't even know I have watches.

It's pointless.

The risk to reward.

Depends where you are, but you can get it.

I don't wear this every day.

I was just wearing this for the podcast.

But if you're wearing it every day, you can get yourself in some pretty.

I have more anxiety wearing it than when I don't have it.

No, it's pointless as well.

And I really, I really, one thing I really hate, and you shouldn't have mentioned this, I really, really hate it when people are like, oh, but wearing a watch gets you into certain rooms.

That's such bollocks.

Like, really and truly i've never got into a room because of a watch i've got on and especially when they're talking about like you know entry-level role like state justice and shit like that you know oh i bought this ten thousand dollar watch because it's going to get me into a room with a multi-million it's not it's simply not you know you you get in based on you know the value that you that you can give and who you're who you're friends with that's kind of what it comes down to really so yeah it won't get you in it might spark a combo when you're in there though maybe yeah

at a certain point you know if you're wearing kind of the higher end stuff but for these guys that are buying you know ten thousand watches, in my opinion, I don't think that really opens up.

Oh, yeah, it's not impressive.

The opposite.

If I saw someone wearing that, I probably wouldn't be overly...

Yeah, I don't know.

No, I agreed.

Yeah, I went to T-Mobile yesterday and the guy had a Rolex on.

Exactly.

It's lost a lot of its effect.

Because you can even finance watches and shit now, I think.

Yeah.

I saw an advert for that the other day on a billboard.

Really?

So you can finance a Role-any?

Apparently, yeah.

So that's like $100.

$10,000 down and then 10%.

This is what I'm saying.

So I feel like the whole watch industry, yeah, it's...

I'm not really big into it.

I feel that.

To be fair.

So you have a charity already at 22.

When did you start that up?

Last year.

Wow.

What made you start that?

My business partner is Latvian.

So he grew up in Riga.

Have you ever been to Latvia?

No.

So Eastern European country.

Very, very cold.

Poor country as well.

Kind of ex-ex-Soviet block.

So if you go to the capital, you'll see a lot of the concrete buildings left over from the Cold War.

Now,

it's as you say, it's a very, very poor country.

And Marcus, because he's got quite a decent following as well.

He's fairly well known in Latvia because there's not a huge amount of people from Latvia that have got money.

So he kind of got in touch with this charity and we essentially joined forces with them and we funded some events for them.

The next event's coming up in summer.

The last one we did was early this year and we did one at Christmas as well.

And yeah, essentially it's a charity for disabled children.

It's called Palidays.

Hopefully I'm saying that right if you're watching this guys.

It's a charity for disabled and disadvantaged children.

So we were there at Christmas.

So I actually spent my Christmas, Christmas Day, and New Year's with the charity in Latvia.

So we went in, gave a talk to kind of the older members of the group, talking about kind of business life, giving them advice and whatnot, transferable skills, et cetera.

And then for their main Christmas event, which was on Boxing Day, I'll show you some videos of this if you want to put it up to.

Rented out this massive, massive, it's basically the biggest concert hall in Latvia.

So massive concert hall.

There was like Father Christmas, presents.

We hired the Paw Patrol, if you know what that is.

Paw Patrol.

It's like a children's TV show, I guess.

Oh, if you've got, it's like a children's TV show.

So they dress up as like these big

dogs.

Yeah,

yeah.

So we hired them and then they came and did like a whole performance.

It was music, arts and crafts and things like that.

And yeah, it was a really, really rewarding experience.

I feel like it's important if you are making a certain amount of money and if you are doing the flexing especially, that you do also do, you know, you also give back as well.

Because if you're just solely just flexing, et cetera, you know, it really.

It can become quite sickening to people watching it when, you know, there's people living

not the best lifestyles.

So that's something that we were were very, really keen to get into.

Just give a bit back, and it's really, really

give and take, right?

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, all these people that kind of don't do anything charitable or whatever, it's just, it's bad karma at the end of the day.

I think so, too.

I'm big on energy.

Yeah.

I think you got to give back on some level.

It doesn't have to be anything crazy.

No, of course not.

No, I mean, we really wanted to really make an impact and we're really close with the charity now as well.

It's funny because I posted a picture the other day of me getting out of the car in Belle Hills and I had the charity t-shirt on.

So yeah, it's cool.

They're a really, really great group of people.

Obviously, I can't speak Latvian.

So, you know, Marcus was kind of translating for me the whole time.

But it was really, really great.

And I feel like it's definitely someone I want to do more of,

especially with the industry that I'm in.

You know, obviously, the whole OnlyFans thing does get a really bad rep, but if I can use some of the money for a really, really good cause, then, you know, maybe, maybe that'll lessen kind of people's perception.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Do you feel like you get a lot of heat from doing what you do?

No, no, not really.

Not particularly.

I mean, the only heat, because I post a lot on Twitter, the only heat I really get are from kind of the people that are way too much into the whole red pill space.

You know, they come at you with like the religious angle and stuff like that, which I really don't think is applicable in the scenario.

I don't really give a shit what people think, I'll be honest.

I mean, I live a great lifestyle, I've got great friends, you know, I make a lot of money.

I can't complain too much.

And, you know, if if the caveat of that is that some people online who I'm never going to meet in my life and who probably wouldn't look me in the eyes if they ever met me in person are going to say mean things, so be it.

But it shouldn't get the rep that it does, in my opinion.

You know,

the least favorite podcast that I watch, and I'm not going to say them by name, but it's the ones where

they get like they get the OnlyFans girls on, and then it's basically just two much older guys shouting at a load of younger OnlyFans girls and trying to make them look stupid.

That, to me, is just the most disgusting thing ever.

Why would you do that?

What's the point?

You know,

I'll tell you something.

If I'm 37, like a certain person is, if I'm 37, if I'm 37 and I'm sat on on a podcast shouting at 18 to 20 year old OnlyFans girls, tell me to jump off something because that is, it's ridiculous and it shouldn't be a thing, in my opinion.

And then the real, real issue, and I'm going to say this and what I said to you just prior.

I think the over-the-top Red Pull movement, it's one of the most damaging things for young men to come out of the past few years.

Wow.

I do.

It's going too far.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for being a strong man, you know, being an upstanding person, having having morals, et cetera, et cetera.

But it is going a step too far.

I spoke to someone the other day, okay, a guy I used to go to school with, okay, works just a job at a shop, like what I used to do.

And he was saying, oh, yeah, I'm only going to marry a virgin.

What kind of a ridiculous ideology is that putting into people now?

And we're going to get to a point in probably 10 years' time where we're going to have a very, very malinformed and maladjusted group of men.

It will happen.

I can see it happening now.

You can see it by going on the internet.

Yeah.

Some of the opinions.

because what always happens with movements is that it starts off it's great okay you know be a strong man be an upstanding person have good morals be respectful you know treat treat women well etc and then what always happens is it gets twisted and certain individuals mostly for views but the people watching don't realize it's for views start taking it a step further and a step further and a step further until it really does get to a point where you know

A lot of these Red Pool guys, they act like they hate women.

It's bizarre.

So, in my opinion, the Red Pull movement now has got to a point where it's not a positive anymore.

And the ideologies, because there's so many, and this is another point for you, there's so many red pill creators now that are selling something and that they need the views.

The ideologies are only going to get more and more and more extreme until something happens that shouldn't happen.

Until, yeah, until there's a situation where something gets really bad and it will happen in the next year, count me on it.

That's how I felt about feminism.

And then I feel like Red Pill was started to counter that.

Exactly.

And now it's just gotten

away.

Hopefully there's a middle ground.

Precisely.

This is what I'm saying.

There has to be a middle ground in society because there's usually 50% of people that have one view and 50% of people that have another view.

If we're talking politics, Democrat, Republican, I don't know the exact split, but

it's a fairly even split.

There always has to be a middle ground.

Or, I don't know, you'll have a fucking civil war or something.

But with the Red Pulse stuff, I'm a big believer in it.

It's become, it's gone too far.

It's a big movement, man.

It is.

Gets a lot of views.

And there's a few people really propelling it, too.

I agree.

But to continue propelling it, they're going to have to keep going more and more extreme because

you can't propel something by doing the same thing right social media is a vicious game like that thank you even as a podcast host i have to have on interesting guests non-stop exactly or all relevant you lose relevance same with all else management i bet precisely you know you you've got to they're they're gonna have to keep keep taking the movement further and further and it's gonna get to a point where it will go too far and then i don't know so i don't know what will happen but something something pretty bad will happen in my opinion most people's attention span are just so quick yeah this is what i'm saying you know you always you you you're starting to see i'm not going to mention any kind of current situations or that there's no point starting beefing people on the the internet but i mean you're already seeing situations now where even the red pill guys are being exposed for not not being not not going by what they say whatsoever wow i didn't see that yet but i could see it i'll i'll speak to you about it afterwards but it's it's it's yeah i try to be the same person on the show as i am in real life good i i respect that as well um i feel like to do a podcast you do have to be kind of fairly you can obviously have your own opinions and whatnot but you you do have to you know hear both sides of the story but i try to stay neutral i think it's good because then you segment a big audience if you're not precisely but look don't get me wrong i'm all for the whole be a strong man you know be an upstanding uh citizen you know provide for your woman whatever 100 i agree with that as any man should agree with that and i don't actually think there's a man in the world that will really go against that shouldn't be anyway but when it starts moving further and further and further to the point where you've got podcasts with 30 40 year old men shouting at 18 year old girls calling them whores calling them stupid is that really what society's coming to that's really like a valid form of entertainment now that they're doing you know

watching guys shout, it's bizarre.

And that's probably affecting your dating market right now in LA.

Girls are probably kind of trying to get it.

Yeah, you know what?

It's an interesting one, too.

I kind of,

in terms of dating and obviously doing what I do, I'm fairly open about it.

As soon as I explain, you know, it's essentially just a marketing agency, it's fine.

No one really has too much of an issue with it.

But yeah, the Red Pull stuff, in my opinion, has gone too far.

I think it'll continue doing so too, because there's too much money in it.

You know, all these guys that are getting really caught up in the ideology and they're watching

Sigma male TikToks all day.

It's yeah, we're gonna have a generation of guys, I believe, in a few years' time who are really, really maladjusted.

And that will be seen.

It's interesting because you're actually friends with some of these guys, too.

Of course.

So you're willing to kind of be friends with people that have opposing views?

Of course.

I think that that's incredibly important.

You know, the world would be a very, very boring place if everybody had the same opinion.

You know, I've got friends who have the same opinions as me.

I've got friends who have a different opinion as me.

I've got friends who don't give a fuck either way and it doesn't really matter um you know and i i love having these friends because then you can do exactly what we're doing now on a day-to-day basis i mean how boring would the world be if everyone had the same opinion and if you if your friendship group is made up of just the same people that have the same opinion which most are yeah that's precisely the problem i'm talking about you you you you become very maladjusted it's very important to have a kind of an equal an equal view yeah do you struggle finding people your age that are yeah yeah because yeah yeah there's there's not there's not too many a lot of my friends are older to to be fair i'm the same way yeah how old are you 27 27 cool yeah my friends are in their 30s 40s yeah literally i feel like it's it's not it's not a case of like i don't like people my own age it's more a case of there's not as much relatability right and kind of what i'm doing they they can't almost do and it sounds like such a horrible thing to say but you know if if is is someone who's working at a shop still or you know still in university as a lot of my friends from school were in the uk are they going to be able to you know get a jet to vegas and you know fuck about for the weekend

it's kind of it's almost like, you know, you,

the, the, the, they can't almost kind of do the lifestyle that you're doing.

Yeah.

And don't you know, I'm still, still friends with them.

I've never been horrible to them, but that's just, it's just the way things go.

You know, you, you drift apart, you find people that are on the similar wavelength of you that are doing similar things to you.

Not necessarily in terms of ideologies, but more in terms of kind of the lifestyle that they're living, et cetera.

You know, things that you can relate on, liking cars, et cetera.

That's one thing I get heat for.

I cycle friends pretty quick, which I don't know if that's good or bad, but I don't see friends as like a long-term thing for me, to be honest.

Yeah, I mean it's it's tough.

It's tough nowadays to find a long-term friend.

I feel that

I've kind of got I've got one or two long-term obviously my business partner is my best mate.

Then I've got a couple of guys who I'm very close with.

The only long-term friend I've really got is a guy called Max, but he lives in Australia now.

With the way the world is, it's difficult to kind of keep long-term friends.

I understand what you're saying.

And anyone that's like, oh, you know,

if you've still got the same...

friendship group that you've had since school or since college i'd be a little bit concerned i'd be a little bit concerned to be honest it's hard to grow Exactly.

You've got to meet new people and you've got to experience different things.

Yeah, absolutely.

What's next for you, man?

That's a big question.

So, yeah, essentially, we're scaling the agency up.

We've also got an e-commerce store, which are doing very, very well to hopefully get an exit on that.

So we sell

semi-permanent tattoos.

Okay.

So the tennis.

No, no.

So tattoos that essentially last for two weeks.

So you can almost try a tattoo before you actually get it done.

Got it.

Or, you know, maybe you just want to look cool for a festival or whatever.

You don't actually want to get the tattoo.

So you just apply it, water over it, and boom.

Still with that.

we've got a software company.

You'll like this.

So obviously we've got a whole load of guys in our consulting program.

What do OnlyFans and agencies need?

They need

a way to sign contracts with their models.

So we actually now have a competitor to DocuSign, a competitor to Panda Doc.

Nice.

So document signing software.

It's called Easy Doc.

We're launching it soon.

Now, the reason that that's going to be really good is because it's going to be cheaper.

than DocuSign and Panda Doc.

And it's also going to be considerably easier to use.

I don't know if you've ever been on DocuSign or Panda Doc.

It's just fucking good.

I can't even use it.

There we go.

At the show, I tried to have my guest sign and there was an error message.

So I'm going to sign up for yours.

Boom.

That's what we'd love to see.

This is why, you know, it's business in general is just about spotting something that either isn't there or needs improvement.

And I mean, in the document signing industry, I mean, massively, DocuSign and Panda Doc, we use them on a day-to-day basis.

And the reason that we basically, it's all fully developed.

I'll show you the figure for afterwards.

The reason that we developed our own is because...

Like, Jesus Christ,

the alternatives are pretty terrible.

That's cool.

I'll stay tuned for that.

Yeah, for sure.

Where can people find you, man?

at Harry Paul Davis, uh, my full name on Instagram, at Harry Paul Davis, on YouTube, and Twitter as well.

Twitter's not for the faint-hearted, but uh, as I said, the the red pill lot between me and yeah, you're raw on there.

We go, we go, we go back and forth, forth, pretty hard.

I'll make that the first link then for people to check out.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, see you next time.