Avoid This $200K Mistake in Business Deals | Dr. T.K Huynh DSH #696

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Avoid This $200K Mistake in Business Deals! 🚨 Dive into the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly and discover the shocking story of a former Walgreens pharmacy supervisor who ventured into entrepreneurship, only to face a $200K fine from the DEA. 😱 Join the conversation with Dr. T.K Huynh as he shares his wild journey from corporate life to starting an independent pharmacy, overcoming adversity, and the surprising spiritual experiences that followed. ✨

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Walgreens Fired for Calling in Sick
02:55 - DEA Raid on Your Pharmacy
10:31 - Wife Paralyzed from Waist Down
15:28 - Development of the Cream
17:14 - Mechanism of How the Cream Works
22:00 - Experience with Bufo
23:57 - First Bufo Experience
26:35 - Aftermath of First Bufo Experience
29:29 - Chief of the Land Spirit Encounter
33:03 - Second Bufo Experience
34:43 - Spirit Refusal to Leave
37:58 - Encounter with Chinese Mystic
43:38 - Fox's Complaint
49:20 - Discovering Your Life Purpose
51:40 - Thanks for Watching
52:19 - Outro

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The day that I was supposed to leave on my vacation and then they just approved my vacation and then I called in sick because I had my cousin's wedding to go to.

Yeah.

And corporate was there on Monday to fire me.

Wow.

And you were there for like, what, 20 years?

15.

15.

So a large portion of your life you were spent there and they just fired you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I called in sick.

All right, guys, Dr.

TK Hawin here today.

Crazy story.

I can't wait to dive into it.

Thanks for coming on.

Of course, it's my pleasure.

Yeah.

Thank you for inviting me.

Absolutely.

So you were a pharmacy supervisor for Walgreens.

Yes, I was.

A crazy event happened, right?

Yes.

Talk to me about it.

Yeah, yeah.

I graduated from pharmacy school.

I worked as an intern for Walgreens all the way up to pharmacists,

managing the multiple pharmacy in our local area, and then worked my way up to a supervisor.

2008 hit, stock crashed, everything crashed.

And they're like, okay, well, we need to start letting some of the people go.

And how do we do that?

I was like, well, we gotta start writing people up for their mistakes.

So that way it's easier to fire them after three mistakes.

And

really made me think, I'm like,

these are all the people that I grew up with.

And

these employees are real people,

just because we're putting them under a lot of pressure

of speeds versus accuracy, we're trying to pump up as much prescription in volume as possible.

They're going to make a mistake.

And because of our pressure, they make the mistake.

I write them up and then I have to fire them.

So I thought about it.

I said, this is not my job.

So I stepped down.

And ultimately, they figured out reasons to fire me.

And I started my own independent pharmacy.

Wow.

Was that a scary moment for you?

It wasn't because in many ways, I was prepared.

I was trained by corporate, so I understand their mentality.

Got it.

I knew something like that was going to happen.

So

they had it all planned, basically.

By coincident, corporate was in town

the day that I was supposed to leave on my vacation.

And then they just approved my vacation.

And then I called in sick because I had my cousin's wedding to go to.

And corporate was there on Monday to fire me.

Wow.

And you were there for like, what, 20 years?

15.

15.

So a large portion of your life you were spent there and they just fired you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I called in sick.

Wow.

That is nuts.

And then from there, you opened up your own compounding pharmacy?

Yes, I opened up my own independent independent pharmacy.

And one of the things was like, what is it that I need to compete against Walgreens and Rite AIDS and Target and everybody else?

What is it that makes me special at my pharmacy?

So we focus on our customer, our patient, we get to know them by name.

We focus on the special things that we can provide them that isn't provided by the large chain.

So I started to get into learning about compounding medication and drugs, learned about, I got a fellowship in anti-aging regenerative medicine, focusing on endocrinology, biodentical hormones, pain cream therapies and stuff like that.

And

because of that success, we were able to brought in a lot of people into the pharmacy from all over the valley.

Got it.

And certain people did not like that.

One of those people was a DEA.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, the whole mess was during that time, there was a lot of opiate that's been dispensed by everybody, basically.

And we were one of the top opiate dispenser

in our area, too.

And that's in many ways kind of our fault because we

were indiscriminate of if you're Hispanic, if you're African American, if you're Asian, if you're from the East side or the West side, you're welcome to come into our pharmacy, even though you don't live in my nice, smooth neighborhood, right?

And I still take care of you because I know that you're, you're Mr.

John Smith.

I know your name.

I know who you are.

I know your story.

And I'll dispense that opiate for you and keep it in a monthly safe way for you as possible and keeping everything legit.

But because of the volume, we got raided by the DEA.

Holy crap.

Yeah, we got raided by the DA.

Probably like, I don't know, 20 aging came through, and I wasn't home.

I wasn't even at work.

No, they didn't go to the house.

They went to the pharmacy.

I wasn't even there.

I was at an anti-aging course symposium.

And so the staff calls me and I flew home, but

they came and they took the record just to check the record and everything.

And so they kept the record for

three years, verifying every single prescription that we had dispensed for five years and make sure that they were not illegal prescriptions.

Got it.

So ultimately what happened was they couldn't find that we did anything illegal,

but they found that we made a lot of mistakes.

Like if the doctor wrote a prescription and they forgot to finish up the date or check the number prescription box or

they forgot to sign their name or they forgot to put a marker or something, whatever.

They forget every mistake that they found by just detailed examination of every single prescription.

They wanted to find us twenty five thousand dollars for each mistake.

If the doctor were to write three prescriptions and they they forgot to check the box of zero to five

or something, that's twenty five thousand dollars.

Holy crap.

Yeah, so uh we we end up getting a lawyer and worked through a

settlement.

And they said, oh, you know, we uh it cost us two hundred thousand dollars

to investigate the pharmacy and so we want that two hundred thousand dollars back.

Wow.

From a hundred and one million dollars.

That is nuts.

So we we we just pay and and let it go and they put us on probation and the board of pharmacy put us on probation for those mistakes and all that stuff.

And so ultimately we had

three years of probation, and every quarter that we would bring outside auditor to come.

And then, every quarter, a board member of the Board of Pharmacy would come and audit a pharmacy.

So, they did that.

Everything is fine, and everything.

And then, for some reason, at the end of three years, the DEA came back and said,

Yeah, we're going to audit you again.

Wow.

I'm like, what the hell?

So, I didn't know at that point in time, I wanted to not dispense any more opiate anyway.

And we weren't dispensing like

barely any opiate, just some like ADD meds for the kids and stuff like that.

But they still want to come back, and they had an agenda I didn't know.

I was there this time, they had an agent coming in with the search warrant for records and everything.

They were gonna pack up the record, and then they said, Hey, I want to talk to you.

Come in the office.

I didn't know, but it was a trap.

They told me to like turn off all the cameras and audios, no recording.

And they said, hey, if you sign this paper saying that you're going to give up your

DEA schedule to dispensing,

then

we will leave all the record we won't audit you and we'll just call it today.

I'm like, okay, great.

I then I don't need to dispense any more opiate, which is not my goal anyway.

If I could just keep the pharmacy running, taking care of the patient without dispensing opiate drugs and force them in many ways to like go to some less harsh drug, then

it might work out.

So I signed that, but the trick was that when you sign that, I didn't know, they send that out to your insurance

company that you contract with.

And the insurance company turn around and say, hey, you're not dispensing opiate medication.

Then you can't have a contract.

Whoa,

so it's it becomes this catch-22 where you have to dispense Schedule 2 drugs.

If not, you can't have an insurance contract to build the rest of the prescription.

Wow.

And we didn't know that.

So that put you out of business.

Yeah, basically.

So we ended up having to sell the pharmacy.

That's crazy.

And the DA probably knew that.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

A lot of corruption.

And so we didn't know, but they went through and did that to like

independent pharmacy all over California.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And the reason was that we found out through our lawyers that

because of the opiate crisis, Congress blamed the DEA for it, for not being strict.

And so...

So they were getting a lot of heat and attention.

So they came back and said, you know what?

All these people, we're going to come back and punish them.

Wow.

And so.

So CBS and Walgreens ended up buying all these local pharmacies, basically.

Yeah, yeah.

A lot of them.

A lot of them did.

Or a lot of them just went out of business.

But, you know, obviously they went after the independent because independent don't have money and lawyers,

everything.

But what happened to all these chains that was doing the same thing, right?

Yeah.

I don't know many independent pharmacies, to be honest.

I don't see them that often.

Yeah, it's a dying breed between the PBM and the ability to.

operate a business.

Right.

It seems like CVS and Walgreens really have a monopoly on the market.

Yes.

They do.

They do.

So after that crazy situation happened, your wife got paralyzed, right?

Yeah.

How long after that happened?

Did that happen?

It was

early part of our pharmacy business, too.

We must have opened like our pharmacy

two years into the business.

And

basically my wife calls me at work and said, hey.

I don't feel good.

You might need to pick me up.

And I'm like, okay.

So 15 minutes later, her staff calls and like, hey, TK, your wife is on the floor.

She can't move.

We call the ambulance and the ambulance is going to take her to the emergency room.

I'm like, great.

Okay, I'll meet her at the emergency room.

So by the time I got to Kaiser, she was already in the emergency room on the gurney.

And I can see the attending doing her physical exam.

And the first thing they do is the...

leg test where they put the pin against your your feet.

Yeah.

That's all your feet and ask her if she can feel it.

She said, No, she can't.

So they keep moving up.

She can't feel any of any part of her body.

And then come to the palm of the hand.

They're like, Can you can you feel the pin on the palm of your hand?

Can you squeeze it?

She's like, Yes, I can, I can I'm squeezing, but

it's flat.

And then the doctor put his finger and said, Can you squeeze my finger?

And she said, Yes, I'm squeezing, but her palm is out.

Wow.

So basically, we looked at each other and knew that she was paralyzed.

And

they took her out, did CTs, MRI, all the blood tests.

Two hours later or so, about there came back and the attending and the neurologist came in and said, this is what's going on.

She's paralyzed.

We don't know why.

Everything came back normal.

Are you sure she's not on any illicit drugs or anything?

I'm like, no, we do not do any of that for sure.

And no fever, no physical

injury.

And so it was just a weird event.

But fortunately, at that time,

I already read Joe's Dispenza's book, You Are the Placebo.

And at that time, I was already trained in technology and bioenergetic, PMF, smart tens, and stuff like that.

And I had enough practice in the independent pharmacy side of the business with consultation just to understand

whatever was going on.

And

through my training in pharmacy and anatomy and physiology and bioenergetic i can kind of put everything together and and really thought about okay what is it that i need to do i need to stay calm and be confident and don't show weakness that i can heal my wife and put that intention there so i pray for joe dispenza to come

to that bed with me and then I pray for my friend Harry Massey who owns NestHealth who owns the technology and um i asked them to help me pray and put the intention out there that we're gonna heal my wife so i i talked to the attending and convinced them to to let me just pray and do work on her energetically and they left the room and uh i worked on her at about I think about three and a half hour in

her toes started to move that gave me more hope.

I'm like, damn, this is working.

Like, really, like, fuck, this is working, right?

So

I put more effort and prayer into it.

And then five and a half hours later, she sat up.

Crazy.

And we took out her foley.

She took her IV bag and walked to the restroom.

The nurse came in and was obviously very surprised not seeing her on that journey.

Ran out and called that tending in and they were wide eye surprised that this lady who is paralyzed now is walking out of the restroom.

And so we suggested to them that we're going to go home and work and heal from there at home.

And they obviously disagree and said that it's against medical advice.

and that the

intensive care unit is room is going to open up for her for more checkup and all that stuff.

So we signed the no consent form and walked out

of the emergency room that night.

But before we did that, the attending said that if she could walk from the room to his desk in the front and walk back by herself, then he'll let her go.

And so she did.

She did that.

She did it all by herself.

Crazy.

So that event really pushed me to think, okay, if I have spirituality, I have

intention

and bioenergetic and technology, how do I use that to help people resolve their pain?

Obviously,

this was before the whole DEA thing.

We were already on the journey of like, how do we resolve that?

And through reading

books like John Sarnos and Gabo Mate, a lot of the pain syndrome

is about

the trauma that we hold on to, the stress,

the anxiety, the story that we tell ourselves.

And it's not just about physical and anatomical injury, but it's about psychological and emotional issues that we hold on to that can create

the anxiety, the addiction.

the alcohol because it's hard for our conscious mind to deal with

and the other thing is the pain or the environment that we're in right

and so

we thought about that and it's about energy how do we help people let go let go of what they're holding on to the story the culture the trauma if we can transform that into a state where they feel safe they feel love

and they retell the story differently

then their pain can go away.

Right.

So that's why you develop the cream, right?

Yes, that's how we develop the cream by imprinting, using Nest technology, imprinting frequency and journey into the cream.

And it's about finding peace and love in the heart and letting go of our traumas and

everything that we hold on to.

Yeah, I can't wait to try it.

It sounds similar to acupuncture, how that releases pain, right?

Exactly, Sean.

Very similar.

Peter Frazier, who is one of the co-founder who passed away, unfortunately,

was the chief scientist.

And Harry is the technology business person behind Nest

and he was an acupuncturist

teacher and principal at the first acupuncture school in Australia wow so he applied a lot of the teaching of acupuncture and energy meridians and flow into

a lot of the NES theory of practice.

So they have what this thing they call drivers where

everything in our body in our our field, vibrate at a very specific frequency at the atomic level, and then they make up everything else.

And then they have these things they call integrated, basically meridian channels, and how information are transferred from one point of the meridian to another.

And that's another way that our body communicates.

So our body is made of biology, chemistry, neurobiology.

It's also electrical.

And in that electrical, there is that energy where where we see sometimes like hey how do I see auras on people how there is chakras and there is meridians it's just another form of energy in the field and they learn how to basically align and create coherence in these systems interesting yeah this way of thinking is very different from a traditional pharmacist exactly So so many, so many, so many things and our goal is then like, how do we help people understand

their issue, the root cause,

the environment that they're in that can create their problem.

But is it

mental, psychological issue, or is it physical issue?

And what is it that we need to do first?

Prayer, meditation.

physical therapy, supplements.

Do these things that are not as harmful?

The efficacy might not be as quick.

Just be patient about it versus a drug, right?

Being a pharmacist, you know, we see, we dispense thousands and thousands of prescriptions, seeing thousands of patients, clients,

and we never see, we hardly see any people get off a drug.

Wow.

Right?

If you're on a cholesterol medication, you're on it for the rest of your life.

You're on a blood pressure medication, most likely you're on it for the rest of of your life.

You're on opiate medication for chronic pain, you're on it for the rest of your life.

And

why?

What are the side effects?

What are the implications of being on these things for the long term?

Taking a drug that creates an anatomical and pharmacologic reaction in the body has consequences to the rest of the system in the body.

And when we don't be mindful of what those consequences before you know it we start with one medication we keep adding one more and one more and in a couple years one five medication yeah because this cholesterol medication causes depletion of coQ10 which is needed for your muscle to work properly and your cell to make ATP in the Krebs cycle and you need that for energy now you have low energy and they're like oh you might have thyroid issue so we're going going to give you a thyroid medication.

Oh, wait, your muscle's cramping up because it's dying from depletion of CoQ10.

You have a muscle relaxant issue.

We're going to give you a muscle relaxant.

And then you get on the muscle relaxant, and they're like, oh,

I don't feel good.

You might have psychological mental health issues.

And then they give you an S SRI.

And it just goes on and on.

And then sometimes, oh, wait,

the medication for this system is not working.

There's other control control systems.

Let's give medication in the other control system.

Now we're just trying to fix all these levers and control system, which isn't the thing.

But if we go down to the root cause,

energetically, psychologically, spiritually,

how do we find that and fix it?

Right.

Obviously, like if you have an alcoholic, you don't want to put an alcoholic in front of a convenience store or in front of a bar.

Yeah.

They shouldn't be living there.

Change their environment.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Let's talk about the spiritual side because I know you did bufo with your wife.

Yes.

That is a very extreme psychedelic.

So, was there any build-up to that, or you just went straight to Bufo?

There was no build-up to that.

Wow.

So no mushrooms or anything leading up to it?

Basically,

we started going to Burning Man

the last six years.

Yeah.

And

during COVID, 2019, obviously, renegade burn and nothing happened and 2020 everybody was hype to get back in and then so our burning man group said hey they cancel it why don't we just hang out in at a place where we all can just hang out and be be ourselves during burning man

so they organized a buffo ceremony for people to opt in if they want to do it and all that stuff and we're like for some reason it was our calling to uh to do it and we were gonna do it together came in and

and uh the first day we were probably like the fourth or fifth set of people to go yeah

and uh it was outdoor and this under this beautiful um

kind of like indian reservation previous indian reservation with this giant tree and um

We were supposed to go and my wife was a little anxious, so she's like, let me go first.

And so, she went first.

She took the first puff, she went in.

Oh, you smoke it?

Yes, yes, it was totoxin.

Got it.

And basically, you smoke it like a crackpipe.

But

she came in, and I was about 10 feet away, and it was supposed to be my turn.

But I can hear when she came in, she started talking to her dad.

So

I came in, they came and gave me the first puff,

And they saw that I was still

a little bit conscious.

And so

they came and gave me the second puff.

I came

then I came in and I asked the divine, what is my sole purpose here on earth?

And during this time of like low vibration, COVID, culture separation, family unit was just torn apart.

People was just torn between their beliefs, right?

And so

the divine said, it's not your time yet.

You need to be with your wife.

And so

all the bufu in my body just burned up like that.

Whoa.

And I just woke up and they came to give me a third puff.

I'm like, the divine said it's not my time.

So I went and sat with my wife.

And in

that,

I can see here that she's talking to her dad because she started telling her dad about me, about our kids,

their names, their personality, like just introducing them to her dad, like

the first conversation.

And then she started talking to her sister who passed away when they escaped from Vietnam.

Wow.

And

so

we're like, this is this is weird, abnormal.

And

it generally should last 15 to 45 minutes.

But she went on for two hours.

Holy crap.

And so we took her from the site to the dining lounge area.

And there's a pond there and everything.

And she sat there and she's just in and out talking to her dad.

And

so we have all the support that we needed

to

all the people there.

And

there was 80 people, probably about 50 of them were doctors.

Wow.

So

we had all the support that we need, but she was just in and out.

And it was just a weird, weird set of events.

One of the themes that night was

YMCA.

So everybody's all dressed up, funky, and having fun.

The music was too loud.

The neighbor called the cop.

And

then, like, this storm came by,

created like a fire, burned the tree.

And it was just

a weird series of events.

And basically, within the next four days, she was not herself.

And

come to find out that the last morning,

in bed, about probably four o'clock in the morning, we were supposed to leave Monday morning

at four o'clock in the morning.

She's like, honey, there's something weird.

I see a lot of shadows

in the room.

And I'm like,

damn, this is not good.

So I called up my Qi Kong master friend and he channeled then.

He's like, TK,

what the fuck did you do?

There's spirits all over this room, and they're getting into Aline.

They're like just popping in and out.

They're trying to get in and all that.

Jeez.

And so

she was basically in many ways levitating off of the bed.

Holy crap.

She was basically off of the bed by about a foot and was just bouncing

up and out.

And so I don't know why, but I started, she's like,

Bruce needs your help.

So I started meditating and came in.

And in that room of meditation, I see shadows.

And I'm pulling shadow through out through the door, just kicking them out, just throwing them out.

And

before you know it, when I woke up in some way, she's on the floor next to the door.

And then the s

chief of the land spirit came and said, I don't like what you guys are doing here.

You're

doing bad stuff on my land.

And basically, I need you to cleanse it.

But I want to talk to the two people who's in charge.

And we're like, okay.

It's five o'clock in the morning.

And

basically we're able to get their attention by seven o'clock to come in.

And then the chief is like, hey, I need you to go cleanse all the sacred area.

And

initially, the chief said, everybody's not allowed to come back.

But after we apologize and cleanse, and the chief then understand that we were there trying to help.

the place because they were going to go out of business.

And when we came there, not we only paid, but everybody did like kind of funding to give extra money to for the employees and for them to like pay their land and keep the employee and all that stuff and and um so the chief understood that and said okay

just just avoid the sacred space

you know you know if you're gonna come back and all that stuff but um basically

um

i felt like okay it was a procession and um and then after the chief left then the real spirit that possessed her came out and said, Haha, got you.

I'm like, What you mean?

And he's like, You don't know me?

You don't know who I am?

And then he said,

I can see you.

And that gave me a flashback about five days ago when we drove Route 66 to get to Santa Fe.

We stayed at a Marriott in Albuquerque.

And

when we shower,

we got out.

It steamed, the shower steamed up, and in the mirror,

there was writing on the mirror that said, I can see you.

What the heck?

Yeah, this was before the buffo?

This is before the buffo.

Whoa.

That's cool.

Because

we stopped by in Albuquerque for one night.

Yeah.

And so we bought our soap and everything, like the big Dr.

Bonner bottle.

Yeah, I use that.

Yeah, so I put it on the tank of the toilet.

I walked out, and both of those big jugs of soap came off the floor, like came falling onto the floor.

I'm like, what the hell?

Is it slippery or leaked?

Or whatever.

I didn't think about it.

So I showered first.

I came out and then the door was open.

My wife came in and showered.

And by the time she got out, she's like, haha, it's not funny.

What are you talking about?

So I came in.

She's like, look in the mirror.

And on the mirror,

it themed up and it said, I can see you.

I'm like, Wow, dude, that's just not funny.

Um, obviously, I didn't do it,

right?

And and um, I thought someone was just playing a joke, yeah, from previous guests, and they just didn't clean the mirror, right?

So, we didn't think about it, but that brought us back when he came up and said that.

And basically,

um,

what happened with this spirit is that our guess is that

he was a suicide spirit.

And from our understanding, is that they are trapped in this dimension.

They can't go to heaven or they can't go down.

And so, for some reason,

his suicide was very

in line with the vibration of what my wife was holding on to.

So, basically, she had trauma at age five where she found her dad

who had suicide.

Wow.

And she hid that for

37 years and nobody knew about it

until it showed up in the buffo,

the story that she

was someone who found them and was traumatized and hid that.

And she couldn't help them.

So she felt bad and hid that all that year.

And somehow this suicide spirit

understood that, saw that trauma, and saw the love, witness the love that she and I have.

And it wanted that.

It wanted her for the love that she has, that she's giving me.

And in that conversation with that spirit that possessed her, basically said, I want her.

She's mine.

I'm not letting go.

And it wouldn't.

And so

the doctors and the medicine guy thought that she didn't finish her buffoo journey.

And they're like, we don't think it's a possession.

And we just need her to finish that.

So I'm like, okay, fine.

We'll do it just to finish the journey because we have never encountered this ourselves.

And so we went out.

to the edge of the ridge at our room and continued the journey.

And in that journey, I came in with her this time

and I saw the spirit and I'm fighting with it.

Like

whatever I watch as a kid in terms of karate, kung fu, or whatever, I was using everything fighting with this thing.

Wow.

At one point, the medicine guy said, hey, TK,

we have to use love now because it's not working.

We just, she's out.

on the dirt rolling all over the place as I'm fighting with this spirit.

And

so

we try ho'opono pono.

What's that?

Basically, it's a prayer.

It's about love and light and forgiveness.

And so he talked to the spirit and said, hey,

there's the light.

Go to the light.

I'm sorry.

I love you, but you have to go.

You can't be in this body and all that stuff.

But it wouldn't leave.

It had many voices of many stages of its life.

Sometimes it felt like it was a kid talking to you, and sometimes it was an adult.

And it was through her,

obviously, her voice, but the tone was different.

The context of the conversation was different.

And so, finally, they're like, okay, maybe it's a procession, maybe it's the land.

You need to leave.

So, I'm like, okay, we're going to go store everything in our room, in our car, drive out.

Maybe it's Santa Fe.

So, we drove out by the edge of Santa Fe.

The chief came back up and said, Hey, this spirit can stay if he wants to.

But

we're not going to,

I can't force him.

So, but he, the spirit said, no, I'm not leaving.

So

I

basically told the spirit, if you don't leave by the time we get out on New Mexico, We're taking you to California.

When we get to California, my friend is going to kill you.

my friend is so powerful he's gonna kill you you could kill a spirit yeah and so

in many ways was a threat yeah

so I'm driving and this the chief came up and said hey you guys cannot stop no food or anything I'm like how about gas can we stop for gas

and they're like okay you can get gas so We got out of Santa Fe and the spirits like threatening us at this time.

Like, if you don't stay in Santa Fe, I'm going to come and hurt your kid.

Whoa.

And so I'm like, okay, now he's threatening my family.

So I called my friend Bruce and said, Bruce, he's threatening the kids now.

So Bruce contacted the priest.

The priest sent us a prayer through text of his prayer through voicemail.

And it was about the holy blood of Jesus and how that can cleanse the spirit.

So we would play it and every time we play, this thing would just scream and leave.

Wow.

But then we stop and we'd come back.

So this is like a 12-hour drive into Pasadena.

And

we got to Pasadena probably like about 3 o'clock in the morning and came to the office the next morning and the priest was there.

And the priest blessed me to be able to see the angel that he sent to help us.

And in that blessing, I saw the angel.

One angel has always been standing with us.

Wow.

And now the priest is working on my wife.

At this point in time, everything is on video.

We recorded everything.

Really?

Yeah.

At this point, but when we were in Santa Fe, we wanted to be respectful of all the guests that was there.

And so we didn't record anything, didn't take any pictures or anything.

But basically, the sting started to make fun of the priest,

sticking his tongue out, saying, You're nobody, you can't do anything to me.

And it was wild seeing like this thing.

And this priest, who we have known, has many stories.

This is part of his revatural of like doing stuff.

deprocessing people like taking spirit exorcism yeah yeah and um so basically

um yeah

He made fun of the priest, but the priest had the other appointment of like other people that was already in his schedule, so he had to leave.

Came back the next day.

We worked on it.

So we worked on her

for the next four days.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

And

just trying to get the spirit out.

And in between our work, every night, the spirit who is at some point kind of like a general hierarchy of spirit called for other spirits to come and attack my friend Bruce and the priest.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

It's wild and like they would get attacked at night.

So it's a high-level spirit.

Wow.

Yeah.

And so

we said, okay, the next thing we want to do is the 13 sacred acupuncture points.

So every time he put in a needle through her foot, her arm, her nose,

when we fling the acupuncture point, this thing would scream.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And so, to the point where we got to the 13th acupuncture point, it's the one that drives through the heart that would then kill the spirit.

But Bruce paused and said, TK,

this last needle, if we kill the spirit, then we would take the karma of killing a spirit.

Is this at this point?

Is this what we want?

Because if I do it, then it's a lean, you and and I.

We have to take on this karma.

Wow.

So we all just kind of like, what the hell?

Like, my wife, the spirit, is there another way?

So,

and

he's like, there is another way,

then we won't do it.

So he's like, I'm going to call someone.

So basically, but one of the interesting was during this

four-day treatment, one of the day, I saw the angel standing at the door, guarding the door

with a sword.

And I came and grabbed the sword and stabbed her in the back.

And this spirit in her would just scream like there is no tomorrow.

Wow.

It was wild.

It's just

talking, telling stories, it's a whole different thing.

But when you experience the feeling, the sensation, then you know it's a whole different world.

Wow.

And so basically he called his friend who is a Chinese mystic.

She FaceTimed in and she said, Yeah, this thing is going to kill this girl within a year.

Holy crap.

And so my friend Booce is like, TK and Aline are like my family.

I want you to help them.

So she's like, no, I don't do.

any of the spiritual work anymore.

She already quit doing that for years because every time she does it, they would attack her family they wouldn't attack her but they would attack her family so she doesn't doesn't want to risk that right anymore and um

so basically

he said that

they're my family and they have four kids

so if she died then

it's our responsibility like

Like how would we feel about that, right?

So it's like, damn it.

And so she channeled in and said, I'm going to read their karma.

If they have enough karma, then I will help them.

So I guess she did her thing.

She channeled in and read and said, meet me at the office tomorrow.

So this is during COVID.

We came to her office.

It's like out in the middle, like

really ghetto place.

Like you wouldn't think.

And she had her shrine of the medicine Buddhas and all these

statue and everything there.

But I realized how powerful she was when she started to examine me.

We sat about six feet away

and she has in many ways x-ray vision type of deal.

She used her chi

and her chi goes right through me in her examination and it was like a gust of wind 35, 40 miles.

And now a gust of wind went right through me.

And I'm like,

this lady is legit.

It's no joke.

That's crazy.

And so she basically called for the spirit.

Spirit came out, made fun of her, started making fun of her because he said, oh, you only speak Chinese.

So I started making like Chinese language markery.

And which in some way was a good thing because it kind of like pissed her off.

So

she called.

for all the spirit to come and to do a ceremony of reincarnation and ask what is it that they need for their reincarnation journey so that way she can give them the ability to reincarnate

and uh

so generally

fruit money jewelry whatever they need for their journey and so she did that but the spirit refused to give her his name and uh birth date and refused to leave.

So we went and bought whatever we need to do for the ceremony and came back to her place and

did the ceremony.

And so basically,

she sent us home.

She's like, hey, go home by midnight.

My spiritual guy will

come and

take this thing out because he's refusing to leave.

So we're like, we're not bringing this spirit home.

But she's like, no, trust me, go home.

And she also mentioned, like, your daughter,

she didn't fall and sprain her right ankle.

The spirit came and pushed her off the ladder.

Wow.

Remember, the spirit like threatened to yeah, we didn't tell her about that, but she told us about it.

Like, oh, damn it.

And so she also, some of the interesting she also told me was, like, hey,

the fox is upset at you.

Like, how does she know about the fox?

Like, yeah, you shot the fox in the butt with a BB gun.

I'm like, oh, damn it.

I did because when we moved to the house out on the farm,

the fox was like tearing up all the AC stuff under the basement.

And

we had like wild kitten that came and we're like, okay, well, now we're going to take care of the kitten.

So the fox in the fox family was just hanging out in the backyard and I shot it with a BB gun in the butt just to scare it away.

And she knew about it.

Yeah.

And she said that the fox came in, complain.

And then I'm like, okay, what else?

Who's complaining?

It's like the tree.

Complain that you cut it down.

I'm like, oh, damn it.

The oak tree that was dying when I first moved in.

Yeah.

Complain.

I cut it down.

Like, damn.

And so, yeah, we end up having to do the ceremony to ask for forgiveness for all these spirits and all that stuff.

But the point is, Sean, is that everything has its consciousness.

Everything has its soul.

How do we live with all of this in harmony?

Yeah,

in a spiritual path and be mindful of everything, right?

Absolutely.

And so that was that was the whole.

So she got deepened out though once you went home?

Yeah, yeah.

Basically, we went home and she said,

you come home.

These are the medicine you take.

And the medicine that she gave was

her

gift is that when she was born in some way gifted in northern part of China, when she was five, because of her ability to see the spiritual world, the village would be scared and force her family to throw her out.

So she ran away and lived in the mountain and she would

come down to the cemetery and eat the food.

that are used for prayer in the cemetery.

And in her vision at night, the medicine Buddha would come to teach her.

Guang Am is the Buddha's priestess, would come to teach her.

And

there's a whole book about her

and all her ability.

It's the Divine Master Zane.

I gotta read that.

Z-H-A-N-G.

And

she has special healing ability, basically.

And she's in touch with the medicine Buddha.

So when she did the prayer, she said that the medicine Buddha wanted to give you medicine to my wife.

And we closed our eyes to pray.

And she said, no, don't close your eye.

I want you to see.

So she did her mutras and stuff.

And in the palm of her hand, a ball of Chinese medicine

came out.

She gave it to Aline.

She said, you're going to take this

before midnight.

And then she said, she did it again.

And then powder.

of herbal medicine came out in her hand and then she put it in an envelope for us.

And she said, you're gonna smell this

for the next few days.

And so we came home and that night she sent her two general in Chinese religion.

Apparently there's this general, General Huan,

who has built up

to a spiritual level.

And you see a lot of the statue of the general with the mustache and the hat and holding the blade and stuff like that.

That's General Juan.

And she sent him

in our sleep conscious, unconscious state at about four o'clock in the morning or three in the morning, sometime in the morning, I see him and his helper came and stand at the at the bedstand.

And I'm like, do I wake up?

Do I, am I dreaming?

If I wake up, I would scare him.

He would leave.

He's here for that that purpose.

And so I pretended I was sleeping.

But in many ways, when you're pretending you're sleeping, somehow you just go back into that sleep state or something.

And

he came and just yanked the spirit out and

went with it.

And

that morning, I woke up, touched my wife.

I felt and knew.

that the spirit is gone and she's back.

Nice.

The color of her complexion came back.

There's just the whole feeling that she's back.

Just mind you, now we're like on day 14 of this whole thing.

And I slept with her every day just to hold her.

And the spirit's there.

You can feel there's a huge difference.

That's incredible.

What a journey.

Yeah.

So.

Let's close off with the waterman and your purpose in life because you finally did the bufo and they told you your purpose was to spread love, right?

Yes.

Yes.

In that basically my question to the divine and the divine answer was part of my job here with many human is to help spread love to humanity.

And I asked how do I do that?

So the divine said we already gave you the technology.

You have to find the simplest way to do it.

And when we woke up from that vision,

We had another hard stop in our business because of COVID.

We couldn't get inventory.

so I put our cream business out for eight months.

And then we thought, okay, maybe the divine is telling us to take a hard turn and

really think about what it's telling us.

And so we're like, okay, if our job is to help spread love to humanity, how would we do that?

And we know that in some pursuance, energetic theories,

energy work, that water has consciousness, water has memory,

water can be structured to carry information.

One way to do that is like just think,

if we can get Wi-Fi, video, YouTube, and Netflix and everything out of thin air without seeing or hearing the frequency in the wave, that's information.

If we apply that same theory, if we put in

energy and information and encodes that in water in terms of vibration and consciousness and raise that consciousness of that water, just like we pray over our food.

Then, when people drink it, we can raise their vibration, raise their mindset into that state where it's about love,

it's about peace, it's about joy.

And when we communicate in that level versus fight and flight versus hate, jealousy, envy, then the conversation becomes different,

then our communication become different.

And we can spread love that way.

Wow.

And so that's what it's coated in the water.

Yeah, and hydrogen, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Even if you don't believe in if it's work or not,

we added the hydrogen, huge benefit, powerful antioxidants.

No, it's great.

So many great things.

Yeah, Dave Osbrey is the one who introduced us and he spoke highly of it as well.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Yeah, so obviously thank you, Dave, for introducing us.

And I appreciate you inviting me into your podcast.

Absolutely, man.

We'll link the water below.

Anything else you want to promote or close off with?

No.

Oh,

really grateful.

Grateful for everyone for sure.

And, you know,

if we can help spread love to humanity at time of war, time of divisions,

let all do it.

Let all join force and do it.

Absolutely.

I love it.

Powerful message.

Thanks so much for coming on.

Great story.

Thank you, Sean.

Yeah.

Thanks for watching, guys, as always.

See you tomorrow.