Building Bridges: Comedy, Activism, and Change | Charleston White DSH #684
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Charleston's Comedy Club in Vegas
01:34 - Kevin Hart vs Cat Williams Comedy Feud
02:07 - Charleston's Dislike for Terrence Howard
03:21 - Understanding Hitler's Legacy
06:16 - Charleston on Boosie Badazz's Influence
06:57 - Authenticity of Boosie Badazz's Persona
07:42 - Surrounding Yourself with Positive People
13:33 - Michael Rubinβs Exclusive Party Insights
18:05 - Discussion on Racial Language and the N-Word
20:37 - The Psychology Behind Pretending to Be Dumb
24:05 - No Jumper Podcast Highlights
27:30 - Alternatives to Gang Involvement
34:30 - Charleston's on Donald Trump
36:31 - Communication with the Crips
44:17 - Insights from Vlad TV Interviews
44:45 - DJ Akademiks and Hip-Hop Commentary
47:44 - Discussion on Banning Hip-Hop Music
49:23 - The Cultural Impact of Hip-Hop
55:23 - Post-Crack Era: Values and Consequences
57:14 - Government's Role in the Crack Epidemic
59:16 - Where to Find Charleston
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You're trying to get Boozy Badass arrested, I saw?
Yeah, I was just speaking of the police.
Yeah, you know, I was just bullshitting.
I actually like Boosie.
I'm actually a big fan of Boosie.
I don't like the persona,
the image, and the gangster character that he upholds to the culture because he stands on street codes.
And at the same time, he tries to raise his children and do the right thing.
He really lived
by what he believed.
All right, guys, he's back.
Second most viewed episode on the channel out of a thousand episodes that are coming on my brother.
Man, appreciate it, man.
Appreciate you for that.
Awesome.
And you got residency in Vegas now, right?
Yeah, a Wise Guys Comedy Club, man.
Yo, so you'll be here weekly.
Weekly, every Thursday.
Okay.
So you want to go hard with this comedy stuff.
Well,
I grew up studying it.
And so I'm kind of, I'm a student of comedy.
I would listen to it and go mimic it and then get spankings, you know, know, get whoopings because kids aren't supposed to, you know, back in my day, kids weren't supposed to even hear it or listen to it, let alone regurgitate it.
So, yeah, man, I was, yeah, yeah, I've been watching it for a long time.
Who are you studying?
Red Fox, Maul Mabel,
Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor,
Robin Harris.
And even though Petey Green wasn't a comedian, he was a
radio personality who had a lot of comical ways.
So I I grew up studying him.
But my favorite is Red Fox.
Legends.
What do you think about Kevin Hart?
I love Kevin Hart.
I've actually seen him perform in person.
Nice.
And he was good.
Who's that guy that went after him on Shannon Sharp's podcast?
Cat Williams.
Cat Williams.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I love Cat too, though.
Those are two different comedians.
Cat is more
urban hood
and
he can cross over, but you know, Kevin Hart to me is more
cultural, diverse comedian than what Cat would be.
I feel that.
Did you see the Terrence Howard episode on Rogan?
No, I didn't.
You didn't see it?
No, I didn't.
Damn.
Broke the internet, man.
I heard about it.
Why didn't you see it?
I'm not a big fan of Howard.
I'm a big fan of Rogan, but not Howard.
I didn't think that he had that level of intellectual conversation.
Wow.
So I wasn't intrigued by it.
But
it made a lot of noise, it got my attention.
Why aren't you a fan of Howard?
Oh,
I've only liked one role that he played in, uh, and yeah, yeah, I've only liked one role.
Oh, so just as an actor yourself, okay, yeah, just as an actor, man, yeah, yeah, I've only liked one role that he played in.
So, I not him as the man personally, but I've only liked you know, one role that he played in as an actor.
So, I've never been, you know, too fond of watching.
I feel that, I feel that.
I don't even watch movies anymore.
I did.
You don't?
I feel like they lost their touch.
Uh, me too.
I'm more of a
watching a lot of documentaries on Netflix.
Yeah, so you know, between
Hitler, uh,
uh,
there's one about a wrongfully convicted kid, Sean, Sean Elliott.
Uh, so I've been just watching a lot of documentaries.
I hadn't saw a good movie in a long time.
I like documentaries.
Do you think Hitler was misunderstood?
Uh,
very, very much so.
Uh, and
I don't think his history has been told fairly
because good people do bad things, just like bad people do good things.
They've made him 100
100% complete bad.
And that's not true about no human.
So you think you can be like evil, but not entirely evil?
You can be good and evil simultaneously.
That's the dual nature of a human.
Good and bad.
We all have good and bad in us.
We all have good and evil in us as humans.
We all have the capacity
to be a Hitler.
We all have that in us, to be that.
So, yeah, yeah.
I feel that.
Yeah, the media will just show one side.
Yeah.
So they'll never show the other side.
It's just like people who
I'm pro-police.
I back the blue.
But.
I noticed that whenever someone kills a cop in America, that person is erased.
You don't hear it.
Once they give you the bad side of who that person is, there's nothing good that they will ever say about that person ever again.
They won't share the family's pain.
They won't share the mother's pain.
You won't hear anything from the father, the friends.
They are completely erased.
Wow.
Yeah, when the four cops killed Floyd, they're pretty much toast, right?
Yeah.
They're gone.
Yeah.
Now they're getting raped in jail.
I saw last time.
Wow.
Crazy, right?
Yeah.
There's two sides to it.
I mean, yeah, there's two sides to everything.
They like to showcase the police brutality on my Instagram.
Oh, you think so?
On mine, yeah.
They like to show it?
Yeah.
It happens.
It happens more
than most average Americans think happens.
But overall, you're pro-police?
98% of, yeah, my existence is pro-police.
Wow.
And that's rare for coming from your background.
Yeah, a black man coming from where I come from.
Yeah.
Embracing the culture that, you know, that I grew up embracing.
Yeah,
I'm considered a sellout because I support police.
So people call you that for that?
Yeah.
Uncle Tom, sellout, Uncle Ruckers, you know, snitch, rat, because I advocate calling the police.
I've heard people say,
man, I wouldn't wish jail on my worst enemy.
But in the same breath, a kill the enemy.
I think they're needed because what would we do without them?
Man, it's chaos.
If my mother called the phone right now, I probably wouldn't answer.
And she could be in an emergency.
I would rather her call the police.
Facts, because they got equipment, they got guns, dogs, whatever, to help her out.
And we pay them to take care of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel that, man.
You're trying to get Boozy Badass arrested, I saw?
Yeah, I was like, speaking of the police.
Yeah, I was just bullshitting.
I actually like Boosie.
I'm actually a big fan of Boosie.
I don't like like the persona,
the image, and the gangster character that he upholds to the culture.
And at the same time, he has children that he goes out of his way to try to raise right.
So he's an oxymoron to a certain degree because he stands on street codes.
And at the same time, he tries to raise his children to do the right thing.
Yeah, that's a tough balance.
Do you think it's a persona he's playing?
Now it is.
I think at one point in time,
he really lived
by what he believed.
Yeah.
I think now
he don't live by it, but he's still trying to propagate it.
Yeah.
Still trying to propagate it as if he's just
and he's not.
Well, once you get the money and the fame, why would you want to keep living that?
You know what I mean?
We watched many of them get the money and the fame and go to prison.
We can name a host of rappers who, as soon as they got the money and the fame, they committed a crime and went to prison.
Fujiano,
Poo Sheisti.
So there's a list of them.
You can take the man
out of the ghetto or the hood, but you can't take the hood or the ghetto out of the man.
The individual will have to be willing to change from within.
And it's hard to do
when
you take a lot of people with you.
Facts.
Because you become your environment.
Yeah.
So I tell young children all the time,
I can look at your five closest friends and predict your future.
So if you want to know where you're going in life, just look at your five closest friends.
And that'll kind of give you the direction in which way you're headed.
Yeah, because a lot of these rappers stay with the same people, right?
Yeah.
And they don't evolve.
Yeah.
Damn.
At all.
They don't even realize that's what's bringing bringing them down to.
Well,
it's hard to step away to take a look to make the right kind of assessment.
Because the most part,
you're high, you're drunk, and you're around a bunch of people.
So when do you give yourself or allow yourself to look in the mirror to assess you?
When do you have a quiet moment or a quiet time, you know, outside of probably going to sleep or sitting on the shitter to really have a deep thought and say, okay, man, what am I doing wrong?
What am I doing right?
To really look at the people around you.
So
I make it my business to do that for me.
I fill up.
Yeah, you got good people around you.
I didn't notice that about you.
Yeah, you're very selective.
Yeah, I make it my business to do because I pay attention to everything that's around me.
Yeah.
I'm willing to take the fucking to learn.
I'm willing to take it, you know, to see who's robbing me, who's lying to me.
So you have to assess.
You'll put out a test to see loyalty.
Yeah, I do that too.
I'll tell two people different things and see what comes up.
You know what I mean?
You got to, man.
You got to see if people are talking behind your back.
Man, it's some good water.
Yeah, not bad.
I'll put you in touch with them, too.
What did you think of the Kendrick Lamar stuff with Drake?
I thought it was staged at first.
At first, I thought this was staged.
They were running, you know, a flea flicker play on the people.
Then once the, you know, once it went on for about a week or two, you started hearing reports that this may, you know, all these guys may be having animosity toward each other over a girl.
Then, as it goes on and the songs start being released, you start seeing these guys attack each other
in ways that,
yeah, it was a cat fight.
Yeah, yeah, it was a cat fight by way of rap lyrics.
And it's gotten ugly.
And so at first,
I kind of look down upon it
because why do we always need beef to excite us?
Why we always have to go against one another to get the best out of each other?
Yeah, I thought that they probably would have got more, more,
I thought that they would have given more to the culture.
I think the fans would have gotten more out of a song
had they all collaborated rather than going against one another.
So I think now we're divided again as a culture.
So I think every 10 years
in hip-hop culture, in the black community,
we have something that divides us.
It started out with Crips and Bloods.
It started out with East Coast, West Coast, Tupac, Biggie,
North versus the South music.
So
now fans are taking sides.
And so now fans are not only taking sides, they acting out in violence and taking sides.
Rick Ross just got jumped on.
Yeah, I saw that.
So,
yeah, it's just another element
that keeps us divided.
It's crazy.
Yeah, certain artists can't even go to Canada now.
There you go.
That's nuts.
And so here I am.
I'm on the sideline and I'm trying to make it comical.
Yeah, yeah, I want to make this shit comical
because
what they're mad for?
Literally, what are they mad for?
And then, why are the fans mad
where they want to hurt somebody that ain't done nothing to them?
Right.
They want to show their loyalty to the artist, right?
That's what it is.
The artists don't show their loyalty to us.
So, why as fans would we want to show up other than just supporting the music?
Yeah, it's a weird situation.
It seems like Kendrick won, though.
Oh, ain't no seem like it.
He did
lyrical-wise.
Yeah,
lyrically, numbers.
But
I'm a fan of Drake's music.
Man made good music.
You cannot deny that.
I'm a fan of Kendrick Lamar
persona and what he's represented as a rapper.
Kendrick's won the battle, but Drake's winning the war.
How so?
You didn't see Kendrick at Michael Rubin's party.
You saw Drake.
Drake is a little taller,
a little bit more handsomer,
more of a sex symbol to the women, whether they're black, white, the women, you know, Kendrick's a little short dude.
So the tall, handsome yellow guy with the long hair, that got more hits, that's embraced by the Jewish population and friends.
Yeah, he wins all day long.
He win in the war.
I feel that.
What do you think of Michael Rubin's parties?
It's getting a lot of attention on social media.
Oh, yeah, we just mad because we can't go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like I don't admit, yeah, I feel like I don't say we just mad because we can't put on some white linen and go, man.
Yeah, that's all.
You would go if you were invited.
You goddamn right, I would go.
Because I want to go assess and make an observation.
Because I want to see, I was the black guy
during
the Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman verdict.
I remember dressing up and going to an executive meeting with the Tarrant County GOP Republican Party
because racism in America was starting to resurface in a way that it hadn't never had that it hadn't resurfaced for our generation outside of the Rodney King situation, right?
So from the Rodney King situation to the Trayvon Martin verdict, we hadn't really saw any ugly, ugly racism in this country that caught our attention
the way the George Zimmerman verdict did.
So I was just starting to get into politics at the time.
So I really wanted to see if
Republican white people were as racist as it was being propagated and projected to us.
So
I live in a predominantly a Republican county.
It's considered a red state, a red county, the largest voting Republican base in the country.
So,
man, I dressed up one day just like a hood nigga would look, cock my hat to the side with my hoodie on, my gold chain, and I went to a Republican executive
meeting where they had a lot of elected officials.
Greg Abbott was there.
And so I was just looking, and they was just looking.
Like, what this nigga doing here?
And I'm looking, trying to see, well, I want to talk.
I want to get on the microphone and speak because I saw that they was allowing people to speak.
And I remember a guy asking me, saying, well, what do you want to say?
And I told him, I want to, I know the history of these two parties and I know which party stood with black people.
And I know this is the party that used to embrace niggas.
And that white man didn't know what to say to me when I said embrace niggas.
But he was,
he was taken aback by my knowledge of history about the party.
And so
He gave me a card and he was from Greg Abbott's office, which was Greg Abbott's our governor.
The next day, I called the Republican Party Party and told them what my experience was as a black person with gold teeth in their mouth, and I was smelling like a pound of weed.
So they invited me to come to the headquarters.
So I went to see for myself, is it really like this?
And I saw that it's really not like that.
Wow.
So the South isn't racist?
Very much so.
But it's hidden.
Just like racism is hitting in America.
You can't blatantly identify racism because it's hidden
it's elusive it's it's hidden in the fabrics of what america is built on it's generational there you go so
what we think is racism is really is really a up ideology supported by prejudice
because the people we're calling racist is the our co-workers who don't have no power over us racism is power
so when black people
from my standpoint, man, we don't, not this group of black people, we don't know no motherfucking racism.
Really?
It's hidden.
Most cops aren't saying, get out the car, nigga.
I mean, that's me.
It's not blatant.
It used to be blatant.
It's hitting now.
It's covert.
Right.
Yeah, my grandparents were racist.
They would say it, but now you don't say that word.
No, unless you're Ryan Garcia.
There you go.
But but even with Ryan Garcia, nobody's shaming the Mexicans in Houston for saying it.
The peso peso for saying nigga.
Yeah, Mexicans can get away with it, I feel like.
Man, the Chinese, too.
I got some my nigga Chinese.
Really?
They're saying it?
Man, I got into it with a whole group of Asian population out of California, from New York, that was saying, nigga, that nigga Charleston.
From China, Mac to all the rappers.
I can't think of the Asian rap people.
Man, I had a whole war with the Asian community.
because they were saying nigga and they were trying to make me seem hateful and i'm saying well y'all saying nigga to me.
Yeah, I don't know if Asians can get away with that, but man, I'm telling you, the California Asians say nigga.
I had a whole fight with them online publicly.
So that was my whole fight.
Man, you can't go in the house and say, nigga, China, man.
You can't go in there with your grandparents and use the word nigga as a Chinese person.
You're not going to do it.
So even China Mac came out and said, I'm going to stop using this word.
It's some white people that can say, man, what's up, my nigga?
So I'm trying to figure out why everybody's so mad at Ryan Garcia when everybody he hangs around is black.
His trainer, his homeboards, his bodyguards.
So why he can't say my nigga?
How is it that you can listen to rap music?
And we're going to get mad when you get to the part and say, hey, you can't say nigga and you're rapping alone?
So I think this group of black people wants to use racism as a crutch, but if you sit them down, they cannot give you a 100% fact that they have experienced racism.
Wow.
Yeah, you hear it a lot from black people.
They experience classism.
Right.
They're experiencing classism based on their socioeconomic status.
So just money.
Yeah.
Because
since we've been given
our rights, civil rights, America has moved in a fast pace since then, more toward capitalism.
This is a capitalist country.
This ain't a racist country.
It used to be,
not anymore, and hadn't been for a long time.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean,
you're black, so you could say the stuff, you know,
and not only that, I run around trying to play a nigga.
So
I don't try to be smart.
So I'm a very intelligent, highly educated black man in America that's very articulate, but I'm trying to play a dumb nigga.
I'm running around playing ignorant with my people.
And if I get in certain situations, I play dumb and ignorant to realize most people aren't smart.
Because I can be ignorant and walk you back from being ignorant to an intelligent conversation.
And most people get lost in me going from ignorant to intelligent.
But if I show up intelligent, most people try to play on you.
Because you show how smart you are.
They won't listen.
Yeah.
Oh, I see why you do it now then.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you'll go on shows.
Man, I done been on jobs and playing like I can't read.
I go to hotels during the pandemic and say I can't read.
Take my eye out and say I'm legally blind.
And watch them skip the process of me having to know what's in that paper to sign it.
So I would do that during the pandemic because a lot of hotels, when when you would travel, you have to sign these forms to check in.
Same when you got off the airport.
I can't read.
I would play dumb and stupid.
I learned that from
reading and learning about slaves.
The slave would know how to read, but he would have to play dumb as if he couldn't
to get by or to get over.
I may be sneaking to another plantation to go see my wife who was so
and I got a pass.
I can read the pass.
I'm a runaway slave.
I can read the sign, but I'm playing like I can't read.
That's where there's a term that's called jeffing.
The slave would have to jeff.
So, here, think about the slave who done ran away from the plantation and the slave catchers done caught him and he got a fake pass, and the dog just barking at him and he's scared.
It's just like when the police get you and you try to try to get out this, it's no different.
Wow.
So, I took on a slave-like mentality to maneuver through America.
I play dumb and ignorant.
And only certain people can realize, man, he's playing.
Damn.
Only certain people realize, man, the guy playing.
He's not none of what he's projecting.
Because nobody is what they're trying to openly project.
So you think everyone's putting on a show?
Everybody.
Everybody have a public face, a private face, and then a secret face.
Secret face.
What's that about?
Those are secrets only you and God know.
Yeah, you can't.
Take that to the grave.
Yeah, that's the guy that's sneaking around playing homosexual.
He only knows he's a homosexual.
You saw that sketch?
Yeah, that's why I brought that up.
Secret face.
I saw the photo.
I was like, what the hell?
Yeah, shit.
He got pinned up.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I don't think he should be canceled for that.
Why would you want to cancel a man for what he does in his sex life?
That's what I mean.
Unless, yeah.
Why would we want to counsel him for that?
He's getting a lot of hate, but he's also getting heat because he was pretending to be stupid, like you're saying.
who mad at him for that and why i guess he pretends to be kind of like uh
mentally challenged but i don't know i don't watch him so i'm not sure oh
we're all pretending to be something i think
yeah and then when we go home that's who we are
yeah it's like dating someone yeah first dates don't really matter right but then once they move in you know who they are.
At least by two years.
Two years?
Yeah, I think it takes about two years to really see.
That's a long time.
And that's paying attention.
Right.
And that's paying attention to who they are.
So you'll wait two years before you move someone?
Well,
I think that's when you kind of really get to know who a person is.
Yeah.
I've seen people put on for two years and then switch up.
Damn.
People can put it on for that long.
Yeah.
That's like a full-time job at that point.
Yeah.
Two years, bro.
But after so long, who you are,
it comes out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw you talk about Adam 22
called him a slave master.
Yeah.
You're not cool with him?
Nah.
I'm not cool with no white guy that's surrounded by gangbangers.
And he's into this gangbanging culture.
And it's like he gets a hard on off of it.
And he's the only white guy in it.
Yeah.
And this culture is nothing but negative and detrimental.
Everything on here ends up fighting and hurting and slapping and spitting.
Everything.
There's no substance over there.
And it's all gangbangers.
Pimps and gangbangers.
Gangster rappers.
or street guys.
Everything's about gang and street politics.
There's no, I've never seen anyone
go on Adam No Jumper 22 platform and advance or elevate to any other platform.
Wow.
He just had on the guy that killed Pop Smoke.
Did you see that?
Yeah,
I think that was a spit
in the face of any victim.
Wow.
Yeah, he's getting a lot of heat for that one.
Yeah, I think that was a spit in the face.
Wow, wow, yeah, wow, wow.
So,
man, people get robbed up there.
People get shot up there.
People's cars get broken to up there.
People get hurt up there.
They fight up there.
So
I just see it as a cesspool
that a white man runs and a bunch of black people is barely getting paid.
They barely get any,
there's no rewards
for going through a no jumpers platform.
No one wants to book you after a no-jumper platform.
Have you been on there yet?
I would never go.
You would never go on there?
I would never go.
Wow.
I've been invited to go, and I turned it down.
Damn.
Yeah, and when I turned it down,
one of his former hosts,
who and I eventually had a talk about this,
he made a statement before the world and said, if Charleston White comes on No Jumper, I will set him up.
And this was a black man saying.
Damn.
Yeah, AD said that on No Jumper.
Why would they set you up, though?
Well, because I speak against the gang culture.
I'm the first black man in America to openly stand up against rappers,
the Crips, the Bloods, the BDs, the GDs, all the gangsters, the street guys, and tell them, fuck y'all.
I call the police on y'all.
Yeah, I snitch.
I'm the first black person to uphold those pro-social values in our culture and still walk around as if I'm cool.
Those are some powerful enemies.
Yeah,
man, they've put my mother's address online.
They put my grandmother's address, my sister, my aunt's.
They've had my address online.
But it ain't stopped.
It ain't changed my tune.
What's right is right and wrong is wrong.
And so in my mind, I'm speaking against what's wrong in the black community.
And I got the right to say fuck what's wrong.
Don't y'all say fuck what's right, meaning the police?
So I embrace pro-social values
and my life became endangered for that.
Jeez.
What would the alternative be to the gangs for people growing up then?
So, this is what I tell children.
There's no alternative.
You go become the change that you want to see.
So, what I did, I went and created a youth organization.
It's called Hyped About Hype Youth Outreach.
So, that became, that was the alternative.
So, with that, I started out in the church.
Hey, moms, dads, y'all got any kids?
I got a youth program.
Then I went to the schools.
I went to the alternative schools.
From the alternative schools, I went to the juvenile systems.
From the juvenile systems, I went to the court systems.
And here's the alternative.
Hey, Your Honor, rather than sending this kid to the state juvenile system, we have a youth program that you can send him over here.
That's an alternative.
Right now, we don't have any alternative to our kids going to jail.
What's the alternative?
Send his ass to jail.
So that's why I recommend jail until we come up with an alternative.
So the alternative is
for you gangbanging niggas.
If you love what you say you love, go make a difference.
That's the alternative.
If you love this hood, you love this set,
why are we creating an atmosphere and a pathway for all of us to end up in jail or prison?
Who's protecting mom and our sisters if we all out here in jail and prison?
So if you love what you say you love, nigga, go make a difference.
Stop peeing on the corners, pick up trash, have some after-school program, feed the kids.
If you love this neighborhood, that's what you would do.
Other than that, you just talking.
You don't love this motherfucker.
I come to realize they don't love the neighborhood.
They love the egos that come with being associated with claiming the neighborhoods.
Because they're so protective of their ego.
It's an ego thing.
They don't give a damn about that neighborhood.
Nigga, they watch kids starve.
They sell dope to children's mothers and don't try to feed the kids whose mama they selling dope to.
How you love this neighborhood?
So I challenge that shit.
I challenge black men.
Y'all just talking.
Y'all don't give a fuck about George Floyd.
Y'all didn't give a fuck when he died.
Because if y'all would,
if y'all gave a fuck about George Floyd when he died, we would still be tearing up shit.
Because ain't shit changed.
Yeah, those riots were wild, though.
Come on, now, but they were breaking in the zoos, stealing cars.
That was selfish.
That was entitlement issues.
They had nothing to do with injustice.
Yeah, they were breaking in stores.
Come on, man.
That didn't have nothing to do with no motherfucking injury or a black man dying.
Because if it would, we'll stop killing each other.
Yeah.
So man, black, man, I'll be saying, man, black people full of shit.
And so I'm the only one come tell black people this type of motherfucker shit because everybody else is afraid.
When Malcolm X started talking to black people like that, he came up dead.
Same with M.L.K.
Come on now.
You're the modern day Malcolm X, right?
But that's what they be trying to say.
I just want to play the fool.
I just want to be the one that's foolish enough to say these things.
Damn, yeah, I want to play the fool.
You need full-time security, man.
Uh, nah, you see, I showed up with no security, yeah.
So, I've traveled around this country for five years with no security, damn, and I hadn't had one
issue, really.
Not one saw on your stand-up, someone attacked you or something.
Oh, well, that was a killer in the city.
That was that was a killer, that was a homegrown issue,
yeah.
So, so the guy that attacked me in the barbershop, so there's this book that's out, and I've been, I want this officer, I hope he can get on this show, an officer by the name of Tegan Broadwater,
local cop working in the neighborhood.
They wanted to do, they wanted to take down the Fortray gangster Crips out of Fort Worth.
So this one white officer went into this predominantly Crip neighborhood and brought down 53 hardcore, notorious gang members.
And these guys were notorious.
Some of the most feared individuals in our city.
And they all end up snitching and telling all of them damn working with the fbi toll on one another they solve murders that was unsolved from the 90s when they got these guys
so i'm saying man what the can they be talking no snitching so this officer tegan broadwater uh
realized that out of 53 gang members there was over a hundred and maybe twelve some kids who didn't have fathers and mothers due to this arrest
he went back to the police department and tried to create some alternatives.
And the police department said, man, why would you want to do this?
Make a long story short, he retired.
He wrote a book that's called
Life in a Fishbowl that talks about this historic drug arrest.
And he went back and helped create a program that's called Hope Forum
for these kids in that same neighborhood.
I know about the drug bus.
I didn't know that this officer had done this until I started working with children.
And I met a mother whose son had been affected by this.
And so she told me about this officer.
So I read the book and one of the main guys, a guy by the name of Kevin Spencer,
he's the OG of the gangster crips.
He's a notorious killer.
Not only that, he's a pedophile.
He molests the young girls in the neighborhood.
And everybody in our city is afraid of him.
And he snitched.
And he told all the gangsters that can't nobody whoop me and ain't nobody go kill me.
So rather than him going into a witness protection program, he came back to the city and walked around untouched.
Wow.
Now I'm a community activist playing like I'm a community activist working with children who life is being threatened for saying I called the police on you.
And I hadn't called the police on a nigga yet.
So when I started saying, y'all scared to call him a snitch, and I started publicly saying his name, he started threatening to me, saying I better keep his name out of him, because now he's shamed
because nobody's bringing shame to him.
So I start publicly calling Kevin Spencer a snitch.
And that's when he attacked me.
Damn.
So he pulled up on you?
With guns.
Jeez.
Yeah, yeah, with guns.
You call the cops after?
Yeah.
So he's in jail now?
I'm out on two barns.
I'm out on two Philadelphia bones.
You got arrested?
Yeah, for he attacked me.
How did you get arrested?
Well, they set it up.
They staged it for me to be attacked at a barbershop.
And so when I got attacked, I went and got my gun.
Oh, wow.
And they said I wasn't supposed to go get my gun.
And he was a killer.
Damn.
Yeah, yeah.
So I hadn't been indicted, though.
So I've been out on bonds since December.
So I hadn't been indicted, no court date, no nothing.
Holy crap.
This was in Texas?
I thought you could have a gun there.
Well, I'm a political person, so it's a little different for me.
Damn.
I can have a gun.
But they saying I was wrong for going to go retrieve my gun.
Isn't that self-defense, though?
Well, that's why I ain't been indicted.
Crazy.
Did you publicly back anyone yet for this upcoming election?
Yeah, Donald Trump.
Nice.
I would never back a Democratic candidate.
Never.
Never.
Wow.
Even Obama?
I never backed Obama.
Wow.
I backed Hillary against Obama.
Wow.
Yeah, I wouldn't dare vote for a black man over a white woman.
Never.
Hell no.
I don't trust no black man over no white woman.
Nigga, I had white school teachers.
They were very loving and kind.
I don't know if I trust Hillary, but.
Man, I trust any white woman over a black man in political power.
because I know that black man in political power got a hand up his ass as a puppet.
That white woman can stand up and talk back.
That's why they fought so hard for Hillary not to be president.
It's hard for a white man to control a powerful white woman.
Nobody told the queen what to do.
We're an extension of Britain.
So it's a woman ready to take that seat and she go be a mean ruling motherfucker.
But she go be a little bit more loving than what the man go be.
So no, I would never vote for a black man over a white woman, man.
Hell no.
I wouldn't give a damn how mean that white woman is.
I ain't trusting no nigga in politics.
I'm not trusting no black man at a high position in politics.
He would have to be on a local level for the game, I trust.
What about black woman, Kamala Harris?
I ain't trusting no black bitch with no white lover.
Man, that bitch taking, man, I ain't trusting no white, no black bitch that taking fucking on a white boy like,
man, no, hell no, bitch,
Michelle Obama.
Oh, no.
Uh-uh.
People say she's a man.
Yeah, but she had two kids, and it's been proven.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a weird conspiracy to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well,
they just try to make mockery of the woman that got the black woman that got that the physical physique of an athlete.
She's an athletic-built woman, just like Serena Williams.
Now, I was thinking the same thing.
Yeah, I mean, she kind of fine.
Serena's fine.
Me and Michelle Obama fine.
Because she, man, yeah, that's an in-shaped, that's an in-shaped sister.
And she grew up squabbling and fighting in chicago you and trump need to sit down man oh they try they trying to get me to the to the mansion over there yeah yeah you gotta make that happen you and you and him can get a lot done together i think so yeah i think so he would definitely value your your input and he need a bold black person he does
he need a unapologetic he need a that can talk to the see
This is what I used to tell the Republican Party.
Now, the young Republicans used to get it.
The old ones used to get offended.
Dan Patrick or Sheriff Bill Weyburn.
webron sheriff bill weighburn came to me one time and said charleston man we love you to death our children love you my wife them love you but your use of the n-word online and and we was at we was at a meeting with with with lieutenant governor dan patrick
and at the time i felt guilty because i didn't want to offend you know my white counterparts by using the word
but man i got a whole group of young people that use this word and this word we so i had to war with myself
and
you know ironically I told Sheriff Naman fuck y'all I'm gonna use the nigga word but what I was trying to show them homie is you can't send a black person to deliver a message to a bunch of niggas
you can't send uh
Ben Carson
to go talk to sexy red crowd
You can't send
Oprah Winfrey to go talk to Sukiana crowd.
You got to send black people to go talk to black people.
You can't send a highly educated black person down off in the ghetto to go talk to a bunch of uneducated black people.
They go run his ass out of there.
And he's talking proper, using proper English with a suit on.
You got to send a nigga to go talk to a nigga.
Say, you dumb motherfuckers, listen up.
Who you calling dumb?
You dumb, motherfucker, your kids.
And you show them where they dumb and argue with them.
But so that's what I'm trying to show.
I'm the nigga that can talk to niggas
and I'm the nigga that can talk to black folk.
And I can gather them together.
Yeah.
And they go listen.
Republicans need that because right now the Democrats have all the black people, voters, right?
Now, Trump got them right now.
The worst thing they did was making Trump a convicted felon.
Because now all blacks and niggas resonate with him.
Yo.
Listen, psychologically, they don't even know they do, but now psychologically,
they gravitate because now they can connect.
Now they can relate.
When we watched that debate, my 20-year-old son watched the whole debate.
Man, you can't relate to Biden.
Not only that,
we've already been desensitized or we've already been groomed to embrace Trump through the rap lyrics.
Bill Gates, Donald Trump, let me in now.
That's a man.
Trump's been in over 300 rap songs.
Wow.
From Nelly, Jeezy,
Tool Chain, man, you name it.
Mac Miller.
Man, you name it.
Bun B.
So some of the most prolific rappers have rapped about using Trump's name.
So we're already kind of groomed to embrace him.
And he a convict now.
Shit, that's my nigga.
Been a massive shift, man, because you guys used to hate him.
Well,
not y'all.
They did.
The dumb, uneducated blacks used to hate him.
Us smart, intelligent blacks have loved him up until the point that he ran for president.
So I just want to remind America, we never hated Trump.
I was born in 1977, May 17, 1977.
As far back as I can remember in the 80s, I've seen Trump with pictures with Rosal Parks, Michael Jackson, Russell Simmons, Tupac,
Mike Tyson, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, I can go on the list.
Now,
how quickly have we forgotten that he once had a show that was called The Apprentice?
One of the best shows we watched on television.
Amazing show.
He had Amarosa.
He had Little John.
He had every nigga we love on there.
He had them as project managers.
He didn't fire all the blacks first.
He had claudia jordan on there so and this apprenticeship ran for quite some time yeah over 10 seasons we never heard him be called a racist then ever not once it wasn't until he decided to run for president that all of a sudden he's a racist
and what did they bring up he was a slum lord most landlords are slum lords
They brought up the Central Park V case.
So let's stop right there.
When Trump made those statements about those Central Park V black kids, everybody in the world believed they had raped that woman.
So why wouldn't you want them to?
Everybody believed they had done it, especially white people.
So why wouldn't white people be mad about five niggas savagely raping some white broad in the park?
It's natural.
Just like niggas be mad when a white boy kills a black person.
Whether he's justly or unjustly, we just mad for, so why?
Come on now.
So when he made these statements he's kind of justified as a white man
so we're gonna use that against him 30 years down the road with no other evidence of him being racist other than the things that he say to the white people to get them to come out and vote for him
how that's racist yeah i doubt he's racist if you're not successful in business you can't well he's been with too many black people that's been successful evanda holyfield remember trump was in boxing for a long time out here in vegas yeah We never heard it then.
Never.
Absolutely.
This is the group of people that you can tell the truth to with no evidence.
This is the group of Americans that believe things without evidence.
People that watch the news.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that number is dwindling.
Very much so now since Joe Biden's come in office.
Yeah.
Because America hadn't been the same.
We're on the verge of World War III.
We're watching our Democratic president
give almost $100 billion to Ukraine.
But we can't get our student loan dismissed.
We can't get our credit reset.
We can't get no aid as Americans.
Do you know what $100 billion will do for each American?
The aid that he's giving Ukraine, the aid that he's giving to Israel for war, that ain't got nothing to do with us.
And we got starving children in this country that need free lunch at school.
They got to go to the public library just to eat.
Do you know how hard it is for poor poor people to get food stamps?
Do you know what loops and rings of fire and the barriers that they got to try to overcome just to submit an application?
And we're giving all this money to Ukraine, man.
Fuck Ukraine in that war.
And we've got wars over here.
We still got a war on poverty.
Yeah, meanwhile, the Ukraine president's wife just bought a Bugatti for $5 million.
Come on, man.
Crazy.
Just money laundering.
Yeah, that's all it is.
But Hunter Biden, you know, he said that, you you know, he went over there first.
He went to Ukraine?
Man, he started doing business over there a long time ago.
That's why.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, he's getting in trouble right now for the laptop seller, right?
Yeah.
Oh, they found crack in the White House.
And he got a pistol he wasn't supposed to legally own.
Jeez.
Times are changing, man.
Yeah.
Have you been on Vlad before?
Yeah, I've been on Vlad two times.
Yeah, some of the highest numbers Vlad had was with me and him.
Nice.
People think he's undercover.
He ain't no undercover.
He just wants to be an undercover punk.
He wants to be an undercover black man.
Yeah.
He got a black woman.
I don't know what Blad wants to be.
I didn't know he had a black woman.
Yeah, he got a black girlfriend.
Okay.
Respect.
DJ Academics, you've been on there?
Yeah, I fuck with that.
Yeah, yeah, I've been on that.
You like what he's doing?
Yeah, I like it.
He's good for the culture.
Okay.
So, what makes him different from Adam 22 in your eyes?
He has more substance.
substance.
He created this culture of what we see Adam trying to do.
He's the Chirac.
He's been telling the Chirac war since it started.
So he kind of created this lane for what Adam and is doing for us to culture-wise.
I feel that.
He does research.
He very seldom reports inaccurate information.
What Adam them does is all gang banging conflict.
It's all beef.
It's all
substance.
It's no,
they're not enlighten you on anything that's going on in the culture other than two guys about to fight or two guys had a fight or who your buddies kill.
Other than that,
yeah, no, DJ Academics offer more of a news-like.
I feel up.
Autumn also promotes the sex self, too.
Man, man, come on, man.
They're very disrespectful to women over there.
They're not gentlemen amongst women.
If they get a nice-looking girl in there, you can see the pervert coming out in them, the way they're looking at the woman, salivating at the mouth.
So, you know,
this is the gang culture, rape culture,
murderous culture that
our culture exists.
All those elements is on that podcast.
So, nobody would feel comfortable
having their mother sit in the audience over there,
their daughter, their grandmother.
Hey, mom, I won't be on no jumper.
And your family's sitting with excitement and watching this, or if they do research.
So, that's why I won't sit down with certain networks like Zeus TV.
I watch Zeus TV
allow a homosexual man,
a violent homosexual man,
attack a straight black woman with all the feminine traits and characteristics of a woman.
I watched, and then they stopped it after she was hit in attack.
So I watched this, and so
I know for a fact that
JB main car
and the Seychees TV, The Girl V, when they went and done their car was broken in two.
Damn.
Niggas getting getting robbed up there, set up up there.
So if you got a guy that will go on the platform and say, if Charleston come here, I'm going to set him up to boldly say that to the world,
nah, man, that's why.
Yeah, that is wild.
Yeah, that's why violence is happening over there.
Where do you want to see hip-hop headed to?
Do you want to do you want it to go back to how it was?
I wanted to go back.
I want to move forward like Russia.
Russia have banned hip-hop.
They banned it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
The Russian president doesn't not allow hip-hop.
You can't even listen to it or no.
Holy crap.
No.
So you want it banned?
Yeah.
But you love hip-hop.
Oh, I do.
I want all new music banned and we just stick with what we got.
Tupac, all what we got now, we can listen to all the old music, but no more new hip-hop.
It needs to be banned.
You think that's a good thing for society?
Yeah.
How come?
Because children mimic what they see and repeat what they hear.
And that's what you see in the black culture.
We're the only group that's mimicking the culture,
hip-hop culture, because we don't have any other culture to mimic.
Wow.
Damn.
Shout out to Russia, man.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Your black people in America don't have any other culture.
We don't embrace education.
We don't highlight the smart kid.
We highlight the kid that'll smoke weed and cuss and suck my dick with the gun.
So we don't value education anymore, black people.
We don't value getting up, going to work.
We don't don't value getting a job.
Now, man, you got a white man's job.
We don't value that anymore.
We don't value family, being together as a family.
We value what the culture gives us.
So now the culture
shapes
the culture now shapes.
Let me rephrase this.
Our subculture, hip-hop, shapes our black culture.
Because hip-hop is a subculture,
which now shapes our culture as black people.
What we eat, what we drink, how we have sex, a drug of choice.
Because if hip-hop don't tell us about Molly's, Percocets, syrup, we don't know that.
We just know tobacco, weed, alcohol.
If hip-hop don't tell us about Amari, Louie, Gucci, Fendi, Chanel, Birkin, we'll never know about it.
Those terms would never register with us.
We would never know about a Birkin bag.
We would never know about an AP.
Damn.
But the culture teaches us to ice it out.
I just devalued this motherfucker.
You did?
Buy a lot.
Buy a whole lot.
That's why I bought a huge.
Smart.
Yeah.
But I just, the culture don't teach me.
The culture say ice it out and it ain't shit if you don't, man.
The culture teaches us this.
The culture says blow money fast.
Blow money fast.
Ball till you fall.
These are clear instructions.
Yeah, that gets in your subconscious mind for sure.
These lyrics.
Yeah, when I used to listen to XXX, dude, I was depressed.
Yeah.
XXX Centassion.
Yeah.
Dude, that shit gets in you.
I know.
I was depressed for like a month or two.
That's how I engage certain children by who their favorite rapper is.
And that's how you can tell the depressed kids,
the gothic kids, the gangster kids, the perverted kids by their rapper.
Wow.
That's crazy.
You walk into a kid's room and you see the posters on the wall.
It kind of gives you an idea of who they are.
Yeah.
They're saying the CIA even infiltrated the hip-hop industry.
Yeah.
For the programming.
Yeah.
I could.
Well, it's now hip-hop is a mind-altering program.
Yeah.
It's a mind-altering tool now.
And everybody profits.
Everybody profits off the destruction.
It's just like the tobacco industry.
Man, the tobacco industry profits off
the ills that tobacco caused from you smoking.
They profit from that.
Your addiction.
The pharmaceuticals, man, they profit from your pain.
Hella.
So it's no, it's
no incentive to cure anything when I'm profiting.
So
hip-hop doesn't profit if we go positive.
We're headed for self-destruction.
That was a song.
What?
I thought you were doing it.
Man, no, that was a song.
Man, some of the biggest rappers out of New York City came together in...
Maybe 87, 88.
Man, this was a national anthem that, man,
the biggest rappers rappers known to hip-hop came together and created a song.
They were called We're Headed for Self-Destruction.
Wow.
And people are repeating that out loud and manifesting it.
Yeah.
They don't even know.
A few years later,
all the West Coast rappers created an anthem and a song called We All in the Same Game.
Because people are now starting to see, man, this shit is...
The culture is negative and this shit is
not only does it destroy the community, it eats his own kids.
Hip-hop eats his own kids.
Hands them out there to be sacrificed.
Don't snitch, man.
You'll tell a seven-year-old not to snitch.
You'll teach a 12-year-old not to snitch?
What if I'm being bullied at school?
My mama told me, go tell the teacher.
You tell somebody so you don't get in trouble.
But if I go tell, now I'm in trouble with the culture and I'm going to snitch.
Think about the gang bangers,
the gang banging neighborhoods.
There's a little girl and a little boy whose mother is gang affiliated and she dates gang bangers because just the only thing she got to date in this neighborhood.
And her stepdad is a gang banger.
The dynamics of that situation is if mom and dad ever gets into a fight,
the kids can't never call call the police because in their neighborhood, in their community, in their habitat, in their village, in their area,
they're going to be called a snitch.
And if he's a hell of a guy in the neighborhood and he go tell them, yeah, man, the little bitch called the police on me, man, when I was slapped, they're going to be shamed, picked on, and bullied.
Wow, I never thought of it that way.
Imagine a little girl who finally comes out and saying I'm being molested by her gang banging uncle or gang banging and he denies it man She snitched She lying you snitched on me
Don't snitch on me keep a lot of people quiet.
Right
Don't snitch on me is a term that's used to shame the kid that's being molested.
Jeez
So you learn not to snitch Is that what you were taught growing up?
Nah, I was taught to tell
I was taught who done this
Okay, as mama going to go get the belt, when she come back, somebody better be telling.
If not, we all getting the whooping.
Say, man, man, I don't get no whooping for you, man.
I ain't gonna get no.
So now you, man, mama, I ain't do it.
Mama can't none it.
I told, nigga,
I was taught you don't keep secrets.
Did that get you beat up growing up?
No, because everybody told when I grew up.
Black people
did not start developing negative values until
post-crack era.
Post-crack.
So, what years was that?
I didn't start hearing the term crack babies until I was about maybe 13, 14 years old.
So, I say 91, 92.
Okay.
So, the kids is born in 91, 92 on up.
So,
most black people were raised with pro-social values.
Don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat.
The culture teaches you otherwise,
right?
So, if your mom is at home teaching you certain things, like my mom were,
the culture is teaching you other things.
The neighborhood and the community is teaching you certain things.
If you got an uncle or a stepfather, he's teaching you certain things.
So, whatever male attribute, negative or positive.
So, between your interaction with your male counterparts,
your community, and the culture, it kind of contradicts what mom is saying.
Because your mother is saying, son, you share.
Man, you go outside and share.
You might not get it back.
You say thank you.
You say please.
Well, in the black culture, if you're a kid saying thank you, you're welcome.
Please, may I, they're going to thank you a weenie.
Hey, may I see that?
Hey, thank you.
Hey, can please, I said please, fuck you.
Man, because the other kids aren't being taught these things.
So
it wasn't until crack came, when crack came, the culture shifted.
Just when gangster rappers started being introduced around the same time.
So the values are changing.
Not just the values in the black community, but America values are changing as well.
There's theories that the government knew that the crack was coming.
Did you see that?
There's not theories.
There's real documentation.
It's been proven.
Wow.
So they planned it?
Yeah.
Wow.
Well,
it fund a lot of side wars with the CIA, the country wars, Norregon, all that shit.
So,
yeah.
Man, black people hadn't really had a fair shot.
Yeah, that's crazy because that destroyed community.
Man, man, we hadn't, we, we, man, um,
when they let us out of slavery,
black people worked hard right after slavery.
And, and, and, and they almost leveled the playing field
economically wise.
And then you start having things like the Tulsa rise and things like that.
So then you started having the Jim Crow laws.
All those things start being put in place so we can advance.
So there are literally, so redlining,
man,
you got so much shit that was put in place for us not to advance.
So here we are today, and our government knows that things have been intentionally done to us,
but they would tell us
we don't deserve a handout.
And we don't.
We just need a fair shot.
And we ain't had a fair shot yet.
Wow.
From the things that they teach us in our schools,
from
the school nutritional programs, the lack of prenatal care compared to uh more access to planned parenthood thing man come on homer we ain't had a fair shot
so
we don't don't need our government to give us a fair shot, is what I say.
We don't need our government to give us a fair shot.
We just got to hit a reset button and
identify with our children what's really right and what's really wrong.
And let's just start from there.
Absolutely.
We'll cover that on the next episode, man.
It was a blast having you on.
Anything you want to promote or close off with?
Oh, man.
Y'all come see me.
Las Vegas every Thursday.
Wise guys Comedy Club, man.
I want to shout out to Green Room Radio.
You can catch me on YouTube every other week with the fan bus.
Uh, so I got this new
school I call the MAC school.
So, I'm trying to teach young guys how to be gentlemen while trying to date women
and be comical at the same time.
So, I got that with the fan bus on YouTube, and then I also got another one called Date My Niece with Aunt.
So, I'm teaching young ladies as well.
Okay, so I'm trying to become the change that I want to see in the community.
I love it, man.
We'll link it all below.
Thanks for coming on.
I love it, man.
Appreciate that, sir.
Yes, sir.
Thanks for watching, guys.
See you next time.
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