The Dark Side of Antidepressants: What No One Tells You | Jeremy Seth DSH #669

Speaker 4 A lot of moms actually have something called empty nest syndrome, which is basically, you know, their children are out of the house and a big part of their purpose has disappeared.

Speaker 10 My mom would talk so negatively about herself, man, and it would break my heart to see.

Speaker 12 And I feel like micro-dosing helped her.

Speaker 16 I don't think I've ever met anyone who's taking antidepressants that is also happy.

Speaker 19 Ironic, right?

Speaker 19 All right, guys, we got Jeremy Seth here from Miami Beach. We're going to be talking micro-dosing today.
I'm excited, man. Hell yeah, dude.
Let's do this. Are you on one right now?

Speaker 7 I am not, actually.

Speaker 20 Usually on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we micro-dose my community and I, but today,

Speaker 19 this morning, just had a little coffee and I feel like I had that natural high where I'm just dialed in, making deep, passionate love to the present moment.

Speaker 9 So I'm like, let's get it.

Speaker 16 And yeah, bro, excited to be here.

Speaker 19 Nice. Yeah, coffee's a pretty good alternative to it it's uh you get pretty locked in on coffee yeah sometimes i mean the thing is just like everything as you're familiar with

Speaker 2 we've been we've been really bombarded with all sorts of chemicals glyphosate and coffee is one of the most sprayed crops in the world

Speaker 1 so what's interesting about coffee is it's actually the richest source of antioxidants for the average american but you want to make sure it's organic, sustainably sourced, mold and toxin-free.

Speaker 36 I actually drink this coffee called Purity Coffee.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And it tastes delicious, and it's just the highest quality shit.

Speaker 19 It's really good. I need to look into the pods I'm using because you got me worried now.

Speaker 31 It's one of those things. Like

Speaker 29 I was listening to your podcast with Ben Greenfield, right?

Speaker 10 And you guys were talking about biohacking and stuff like that.

Speaker 28 And for me, I feel like there's a point where you can take this health thing a little too far.

Speaker 40 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 42 Where you're like overly obsessed about every single thing, you know, from the water you're drinking to the food you're eating, to the way you're sleeping, to the light exposure, and to the boxers you're wearing, to the materials you're exposing yourself to.

Speaker 46 And I feel like it can easily go to that edge where

Speaker 5 you're so obsessed that it causes anxiety, which is going to drive inflammation.

Speaker 49 And it also just like limits your ability to live life.

Speaker 19 Yeah, there's a balance because some people sleep at the same time, wake up at the same time every single day. It's almost robotic like.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 50 And I, I mean, I love, I really believe that it's, it's

Speaker 13 part of living a fulfilling life is like having some of those late nights, like dancing your face off with your friends.

Speaker 1 Maybe that entails having a couple of drinks or whatever it is.

Speaker 40 And I'm definitely not a fan of alcohol at all, but sometimes it can be nice to deepen the connection, you know, as long as it's done with intention.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So I like to always try to do my best to navigate with that level of joy where it's like, yes, I'm super passionate about my health and these attention to details, but I also don't want to be so obsessive to the point that it drives anxiety and drives inflammation.

Speaker 19 Great advice. I love that.
I want to dive into this micro-dosing journey. So were you on a prescription like Adderall or something before?

Speaker 53 Yeah, bro.

Speaker 41 So interestingly enough, I actually personally wasn't.

Speaker 14 You know, when I was a kid, six, seven, eight, nine years old, I was told by most of my teachers that I had ADD

Speaker 54 because I couldn't sit still in class.

Speaker 55 I was always messing around with friends.

Speaker 24 And I always just wanted to move.

Speaker 31 You know what I'm saying? Which I would.

Speaker 45 argue is like how a child should live.

Speaker 19 Say it's pretty normal.

Speaker 47 Yeah, I don't think kids are designed to be stuck in a classroom for eight hours, blasted with fluorescent lighting, learning about shit that they don't really care about.

Speaker 46 You know, so the whole premise of just telling a seven-year-old that you're ADHD and you need to pop this methamphetamine so you can focus better

Speaker 57 is such a flawed premise.

Speaker 16 You know what I mean?

Speaker 42 And I think it's a huge reason why we see so many kids grow up and they're dependent on drugs and they struggle with with addiction.

Speaker 4 And, you know, for me,

Speaker 12 I, I discovered mushrooms

Speaker 2 after I first sat with ayahuasca in 2018 in Peru.

Speaker 59 And bro, it was so clear to me after that experience that these indigenous medicines and fungi are the answer, like to what our society needs to really heal itself and transform into just a higher consciousness.

Speaker 12 So I went down the rabbit hole of studying psilocybin and the way it impacts the brain and neuroplasticity and all these things.

Speaker 29 And I was like, this is fucking powerful.

Speaker 12 It comes from nature.

Speaker 39 It's safe.

Speaker 5 It's been used for thousands of years.

Speaker 37 And

Speaker 33 when you micro-dose with it, you can still function at a high level with your day-to-day activities.

Speaker 3 Like I'm showing up here, or I can hang out with my family, or, you know, you can be with your kids at a high level, at a higher level because you're even more present

Speaker 12 you're less distracted right you're more in flow state so I think it's dope dude like more people leaning into nature's medicine rather than being dependent on different pharmaceutical drugs in a healthcare system that actually is broken a healthcare system that only makes money when you're sick or when i'm sick you know so i think micro micro-dosing is such a powerful way to take our power back

Speaker 28 and really

Speaker 12 understand

Speaker 54 our potential inside and realize like, yo, bro, as long as I focus on my breath, as long as I eat real whole foods, as long as I'm pursuing my passions and pursuing my purpose, I don't really need anything external to make me feel happy.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 40 You know what I'm saying? saying yeah

Speaker 4 so for me man it wasn't me who was on any antidepressants or adder all or things like that but my brother you know my i have one older brother and he was on all the different pharmaceuticals and none of this seemed to work

Speaker 23 and there reached a point where i was like i want to take matters into my own hands and help my brother heal and help my family because clearly the current system ain't doing shit to get it right.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you know what I mean? Absolutely.

Speaker 19 I saw on your Instagram you had some tension with your brother, right? You guys didn't get along at certain points.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man. Do you have any siblings?

Speaker 19 I have two half-brothers, but we weren't really close, to be honest, growing up. So, yeah.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 12 it's interesting because whenever I share the story with my brother, I feel like so many people can relate to it, you know.

Speaker 44 And when I was 13 and my brother was 18, he went down a path of, you know, experimenting with weed and other drugs.

Speaker 37 And

Speaker 43 it led to a dark rabbit hole.

Speaker 26 And, you know, it really disconnected him and I, disconnected him from the rest of our family.

Speaker 64 And it was fucking tough, bro.

Speaker 24 It's really tough when

Speaker 61 someone in your life that you really care about is in a dark place and you feel helpless.

Speaker 10 like there's nothing you can do to actually help them improve and get better.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 37 And

Speaker 12 that experience actually sitting with ayahuasca really showed me how much my brother's absence hurt.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 2 And that's what opened my eyes to like, yo, let me see if there's anything I can do to actually

Speaker 12 bridge the gap between us.

Speaker 36 Because I feel like so often we let guilt.

Speaker 54 We let resentment.

Speaker 55 We let shame, we let fear dictate our reality.

Speaker 9 And I know how much shame and guilt my brother had for some of the things he had done and for some of the things he hadn't done, right?

Speaker 9 So for me, it was all about forgiveness.

Speaker 16 It's like, bro, that shit's part of the past.

Speaker 1 We all fuck up.

Speaker 12 We all make mistakes.

Speaker 51 Let's

Speaker 43 focus on our bright future together because we have a lot of years to make things right and to improve the situation.

Speaker 12 So for me, it was like just an opportunity to

Speaker 1 let go of any resentment I had and just be focused on creating the relationship that I actually desire with my brother.

Speaker 19 Nice.

Speaker 44 You know, and he actually just sat in a mushroom ceremony with me for the first time last month, which is

Speaker 19 amazing. We got to dive into that.
So did you introduce him to micro-dosing and that kind of helped him get off those prescriptions?

Speaker 46 Yes and no.

Speaker 2 Yes and no.

Speaker 9 He is definitely in a much better place right now.

Speaker 12 But there's still opportunities to

Speaker 10 still opportunities to like improve.

Speaker 24 And there's still a couple medications that are present there.

Speaker 68 But I'm confident that

Speaker 24 if we take a patient long-term approach, we can really like create harmony.

Speaker 10 I think the biggest thing I see, bro, is we've helped a lot of people safely wean off of things like Adderall and antidepressants.

Speaker 57 The most important thing in that process is patience.

Speaker 36 Because the worst thing that you can do is after taking Adderall every day for a couple of years or antidepressant every day for a couple of years, just going cold turkey.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 60 Because your brain and body has become so accustomed to these different chemicals.

Speaker 64 So when you completely deprive yourself of that instantly, your brain and body is like fucking confused.

Speaker 12 And it can be very dangerous.

Speaker 55 So when we work with clients, first and foremost, we take a very patient, sustainable approach because

Speaker 2 I want them to free themselves from pharma forever, not just for a couple of days or a couple of weeks or a couple of months.

Speaker 9 I want this to be like a lifelong change that they make.

Speaker 33 So, I much rather be patient and make sure we're being safe and responsible in that process.

Speaker 19 I love that, man. This is some powerful stuff.
And you even have a mastermind center on this, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 So, we have a micro-dosing mastermind.

Speaker 19 That is so cool, dude. I got to check that out.

Speaker 30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So in addition to micro-dosing three days a week, right,

Speaker 3 we also are implementing all the other holistic practices that are necessary to really create health and healing.

Speaker 9 So mastering your morning routine, getting your gut health dialed in, you know, breath work, meditation, moving your body, and also subconscious reprogramming.

Speaker 9 Because oftentimes it's the limiting beliefs in the stories and the narratives from our past that really prevent us from stepping into our power and unleashing our potential.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 1 I know you had Paul on your show, and I know you agree with this as well.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 10 there's no psychedelic, including microdosing.

Speaker 12 Like micro-dosing is not a magic pill.

Speaker 6 You know, if you eat like shit, if you sleep like shit, if you don't move your body, if you're working a job that you hate, micro-dosing isn't just going to magically fix everything.

Speaker 69 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So that's why it's so important to address the other areas, you know, cleaning up your gut health, removing different environmental toxins from your life, pursuing your passions and purpose.

Speaker 28 And then also most importantly, I think, is having a community of like-minded, growth-oriented people

Speaker 9 who you can express your most authentic self to.

Speaker 18 You know, and you don't have to apologize for expressing your emotions or feeling your feelings

Speaker 9 and that's really i think where the growth happens is through community you know because you're an entrepreneur you probably

Speaker 19 at some times at times you probably get lonely on this journey for sure especially early on yeah early on it was a daily thing yeah dude and i go through that too at points you know where I feel alone.

Speaker 41 I feel like there's no one I can talk to about the shit that I'm feeling because I don't want to burden them.

Speaker 10 You know, and that's tough, bro.

Speaker 2 Like, if we continue to push our feelings down and suppress our emotions, it's just going to manifest in ugly ways later on, you know, especially as men, like we've been programmed to just not feel, just to

Speaker 35 numb ourselves.

Speaker 33 And one of the things I'm really big on, you know, is allowing yourself to fully feel your feelings and the range of emotions that comes up.

Speaker 19 And how do you go about doing that?

Speaker 12 I mean, really, bro, is like sitting with yourself.

Speaker 12 Like simply put, you need to sit with yourself with no distractions.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 53 So when you feel the sadness, when you feel the anxiety, instead of just ripping the vape or pouring a drink of alcohol.

Speaker 42 or watching porn, instead of doing any of those lower vibrational activities, you actually just commit to sitting with yourself

Speaker 42 and feeling what it feels like in your body.

Speaker 53 What does sadness feel like?

Speaker 56 What does anger feel like?

Speaker 47 What does resentment feel like?

Speaker 18 And breathing through those things and processing them and journaling about them will allow you to actually transmute them into

Speaker 71 lessons

Speaker 10 and to valuable experiences.

Speaker 4 Because the truth is, bro, like, you know, you can't feel pleasure without pain.

Speaker 53 You know, that's why we need those rainy days in our life.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 49 You know, in Miami, it's funny because when it raids, dude, like the whole city shuts down.

Speaker 19 You know? It rains there daily, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 In the summer it does.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 71 In the summer, it does.

Speaker 9 But what's so interesting about that is

Speaker 9 after living in Miami for years,

Speaker 55 you have to embrace the rain.

Speaker 12 You can't just make an excuse like, oh, it's rainy outside.

Speaker 16 I'm not going to do shit today.

Speaker 49 It's like, no, like I can't fully enjoy a beautiful, sunny beach day without the shitty, cloudy, dark, rainy days.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 42 we need to be willing to feel those lower

Speaker 7 vibrational emotions.

Speaker 70 We need to be willing to sit with the fear, the anger, the pain.

Speaker 12 If we really want to experience joy, pleasure, gratitude, you know, it's a whole spectrum of emotions.

Speaker 57 So if we're limiting ourselves on one side, we're going to be limiting ourselves on the other.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 18 I love that.

Speaker 19 Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. I used to suppress all of those.
And I've been working on, especially this year and last year, just being able to feel them, particularly sadness.

Speaker 19 I used to not cry for like 10, 15 years, probably.

Speaker 19 But now it's something I'm actually letting it happen. You know what I mean?

Speaker 58 When's the last time you cried?

Speaker 19 Honestly, a few days ago, thinking about my dad who passed away. But even during movies, like I used used to just hold tears back because I wanted to look tough as a guy, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 19 But there's some sad movies, man. There's some sad moments.
So I just kind of let the tears flow now.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 19 I think it's important because when you bottle up all those emotions, I'm learning this from Eastern medicine doctors and a bunch of spiritual people.

Speaker 19 That affects your health, your organs, and everything.

Speaker 29 Dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 24 It's

Speaker 24 really interesting how,

Speaker 24 and I think sometimes, especially in Western medicine, we ignore the mind-body connection.

Speaker 2 We treat symptoms rather than actually addressing the root cause.

Speaker 44 And all of our feelings and emotions are stored in the tissues of our body and our nervous system.

Speaker 18 So that's why you see like so many children who grow up in, you know, a single family household or maybe one of their parents wasn't around much.

Speaker 25 They have this concept of abandonment.

Speaker 66 Right.

Speaker 53 And they'll navigate.

Speaker 2 their adult life with that same mindset.

Speaker 34 Right.

Speaker 23 Right.

Speaker 9 So like when they're entering a relationship, they'll have this fear that the other person's going to leave them.

Speaker 9 And oftentimes we don't recognize this story as coming deep from our childhood, bro.

Speaker 6 So that's dope that you are leaning into that now.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I could see that. They say daddy issues, right? That's like a common term thrown around.

Speaker 19 And I grew up in a single parent household and I definitely had some abandonment stuff, I think, growing up.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 16 I was actually thinking about this the other day. Like

Speaker 7 they talk a lot about white privilege.

Speaker 1 You know what i mean and i think the ultimate privilege in 2024 is growing up in a two-parent household with a mother and a father that love each other

Speaker 42 and that show you love

Speaker 14 like i think

Speaker 68 i think um

Speaker 69 i think my

Speaker 4 biggest privilege growing up was having my mom and dad around

Speaker 5 to show me love, to teach me values, to teach me morals, to give me a moral compass.

Speaker 9 And bro, over 50% of marriages end up in divorce here in America.

Speaker 40 And then so many of those marriages that are still surviving, they're not actually thriving.

Speaker 56 So the children are witnessing these parents always fighting or there's violence or there's tension.

Speaker 63 So they're not growing up in an environment that actually is safe.

Speaker 12 So I would argue that my biggest privilege that I was born with isn't necessarily being white.

Speaker 9 I think it's the fact that I was born to two amazing parents who loved each other, who loved me unconditionally and just raised me the right way.

Speaker 19 I think if you look at the numbers, you're absolutely right. Because like you said, 50% in the U.S., but in major cities, it's actually closer to 70.

Speaker 19 So I was with Walter O'Brien yesterday, who's the third smartest man in the world, third highest IQ. And he was telling me this actually.
In LA, it's closer to 70%.

Speaker 19 And then out of those remaining 30%, I think he said 25% of those are unhappy or something and they just can't afford it or all these other reasons. So it's actually insane.
It's closer to 95%.

Speaker 65 That's, that's wild.

Speaker 19 Yeah. So you're in that 5% of happy families, basically.

Speaker 45 Yeah, dude. And I think about this a lot too.

Speaker 65 Like, as, you know, I'm 33.

Speaker 12 So I think about like the person I want to settle down with and really commit to and start a family with, you know, because I'm so aware of those numbers, bro.

Speaker 37 And

Speaker 54 it's scary because

Speaker 50 you've hung out, you spent time with a lot of successful people, right?

Speaker 9 And I would argue that one thing I notice with a lot of successful men when you talk to them is like their quality of life is determined by the quality of their marriage.

Speaker 12 And if their marriage is in a place that is fragile and there's a lot of tension, there's a lot of fighting,

Speaker 43 they're not going to feel at peace regardless if their business is crushing it.

Speaker 66 Right.

Speaker 9 And on the contrary, when you meet a man who's like in such a stable marriage where there's just a deep connection and a deep trust and a deep unconditional love,

Speaker 43 they're just so at peace.

Speaker 54 Like their presence is just like amazing.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 28 You know?

Speaker 19 Plays a major role, man. Like you said, I hang out with a lot of the top entrepreneurs and I notice they usually got a great girl by their side.
I'd say 80% of them.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 19 It's a major thing people don't talk about.

Speaker 59 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 19 Because there's this whole lifestyle on Instagram and stuff of dating many girls, hooking up with all these girls and they glamorize it. But

Speaker 19 that's not the key, man. Yeah.
You want to make in business? You need a good girl, one girl by your side, in my opinion.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I think that's right.

Speaker 58 I think that's right.

Speaker 32 Because

Speaker 43 all of the other shit is just a distraction.

Speaker 22 But it's also on the contrary, like having those life experiences because you don't want to go into a marriage or a committed relationship and wondering, like, what if I would have, you know, gone to Thailand and, you know, had these crazy experiences or

Speaker 19 it's more long term. Yeah.
Yeah. But everyone goes through that whole phase, you know?

Speaker 69 What, what's it been like for you kind of as you've moved to Vegas?

Speaker 70 Like, did you find yourself like getting into any of that?

Speaker 19 Yeah, I had a bit of a, not even a hoe phase. I wasn't pulling that much, but in college, I dabbled a little bit and then found my girl pretty early.

Speaker 19 So we've been together for seven, almost seven years now. Oh, nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 23 Where'd you go to college?

Speaker 54 Rutgers, New Jersey. Rutgers.
Dope.

Speaker 18 Okay, cool.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it was fun. Lasted a year.

Speaker 2 You lasted a year at Rutgers and then you dropped out?

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Nice. Yeah, I didn't make it, man.
Wasn't for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 24 I look back at my college experience at the University of Oregon and

Speaker 52 I'm grateful for it, but I also recognize that there's practically nothing from those four years.

Speaker 2 I majored in business and sports marketing. I don't think there's really anything from

Speaker 9 those four years at Oregon that I'm actually applying on a daily basis into my life, my business, my relationships now.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 70 And that's four years of time, probably 200K.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 43 You know, thank goodness I didn't have student loans, but like, bro, we really have to reconsider the higher education system in America.

Speaker 19 We do. Not even just the higher, just the whole education system.

Speaker 19 For sure.

Speaker 19 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 19 When I was growing up, if you didn't go to college, you were like a loser. Like people made fun of you and stuff.
That was like the normal thing in Jersey. Yeah.

Speaker 19 But I think people need to reshift that mindset because I'm the opposite. If you don't go to college, I'm interested in what you're up to.

Speaker 24 I think the paradigm is definitely shifting.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I hope it is.

Speaker 19 You convinced your 75-year-old parents to take psychedelics.

Speaker 16 Yeah, bro. So

Speaker 31 it's interesting, right?

Speaker 42 Because I don't even like the word convincing because

Speaker 2 it almost implies that you're pushing it onto someone.

Speaker 40 Right.

Speaker 18 And it's like pressuring them.

Speaker 41 For me, you know, my dad was a brain doctor and my mom,

Speaker 43 who was the best mom ever, you know, she dedicated her life to just raising my brother and I, you know,

Speaker 29 she battled depression, especially after both of us left the house.

Speaker 1 A lot of moms actually

Speaker 41 have something called empty nest syndrome, which is basically, you know, their children are out of the house and a big part of their purpose has disappeared.

Speaker 43 Cause it's like they spent their whole life taking care of the kids and now the kids are gone.

Speaker 9 So it's like, shit, what do I do with my life? Right.

Speaker 66 Right.

Speaker 38 So I think my mom had a lot of that, bro.

Speaker 68 And,

Speaker 21 you know, she had tried all the antidepressants, all the other things

Speaker 42 for many years, and clearly they weren't working, you know?

Speaker 20 So my dad finally gave me permission to get my mom on a micro-dosing protocol.

Speaker 12 And I think the biggest difference I saw in my mom was the way she treated herself.

Speaker 11 Like, my mom would talk so negatively about herself, man.

Speaker 10 And it would break my heart to see.

Speaker 13 And I feel like micro-dosing helped her.

Speaker 64 be more patient and compassionate with herself

Speaker 34 and be more kind to herself, you know, go on more walks, not be so hard on herself, like enjoy, relax a little bit more.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 61 So that was really cool to see.

Speaker 19 I love that.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And I think it's a really important, it's really important to recognize, bro.

Speaker 69 Like, I don't know about you, but I don't think I've ever met anyone who's taking antidepressants that is also happy.

Speaker 19 Ironic, right?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Because what these drugs do is numb your emotions.

Speaker 12 Right.

Speaker 42 So yeah, you might feel less sad, right?

Speaker 48 But

Speaker 43 you're definitely not going to experience peak levels of happiness, joy, gratitude, pleasure.

Speaker 19 It depletes you. Exactly.
Yeah, I was on Xanax for a bit. I was also on Accutane, which is pretty much all your emotions are shot on that.
So I know what you mean.

Speaker 22 Did the Accutane work, though? Because you have clear skin.

Speaker 19 I mean, kind of, but it's not worth the side effects.

Speaker 50 How long were you on it for?

Speaker 19 Seven months. I mean, they literally blood test you every month because it's so toxic.
They want to make sure you're not dying.

Speaker 18 It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 61 The skincare industry is toxic in general.

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah. Anything not natural for skincare, I don't put on anymore.

Speaker 36 What's really, what's really wild is I think

Speaker 58 in the European Union, there's over 1,300 banned ingredients from skincare and cosmetics.

Speaker 2 And in the United States, I'm pretty sure there's only 11.

Speaker 18 banned ingredients.

Speaker 19 It's because it brings in so much money, I bet.

Speaker 14 Of course.

Speaker 60 But we have to understand that our skin's our biggest organ.

Speaker 9 So, like, everything we put on our skin, sunblock, makeup, whatever it may be, absorbs into your bloodstream.

Speaker 12 And it's going to shift your biology.

Speaker 9 It's going to shift your hormones.

Speaker 12 It's going to shift the way you feel and the way you look.

Speaker 24 So, yeah, man, just being super conscious about that type of shit is really important.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I'm glad there's more awareness, especially in the acne space. Cause when we were growing up, we were just taught to put on face wash and all the, all these creams.

Speaker 19 We were never taught to fix our, like, what we're eating, right? That was never even in the conversation. And now the narrative's shifting where it's like your gut health causes these breakouts.

Speaker 19 And I'm glad to see that for sure, dude.

Speaker 50 And I, and it pains me because you had, did you have pretty bad acne?

Speaker 19 Terrible. I had scars, I had acne, I had like hyperpigmentation, all that.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So I used to, I used to have really bad acne too.

Speaker 50 And when I see someone going through that now, bro, I have so much compassion

Speaker 69 because I just remember going through the thick of it and like being so afraid to be seen or looked at.

Speaker 10 Like I would wear my hoodie regardless of what the weather and temperature was outside.

Speaker 2 And I would just be like, please don't look at me.

Speaker 42 And if I had the knowledge now that I, if I had the knowledge then that I do now and like, wow, if I actually eat clean, like whole real foods and remove some of the seed oils and the artificial bullshit, like that's going to impact my skin in a powerful way.

Speaker 12 It's, it's important, man.

Speaker 26 Unfortunately, they don't teach this stuff in school. That's why we need to have these conversations.

Speaker 19 I know, right? So if you're watching this with acne guys, it's your diet. It's not these face washes that are going to treat it.
Yeah. I used to scrub that shit so hard in my face.

Speaker 18 Yeah, bro.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 10 what's really fucked up too, and I feel so bad

Speaker 50 for girls because I feel like it's even harder being a female, you know, not that I know, but

Speaker 38 like seeing women when they have like a little bit of acne or a pimple or whatever, what do they do?

Speaker 17 They cover it up with makeup and that makeup is toxic.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 19 So in the long long run it's making the problem worse but in the short term it's covering it up it's putting a band-aid over a bullet wound like our society typically does but like you mentioned bro like cleaning up your gut cleaning up these different areas of life like makes the world of difference with everything i had some major gut issues i used to eat four bags of chips for lunch in middle school that was my lunch for two years straight what type of chips uh all of them man fritos hot cheetos funyuns my school sold all of those funyunes were my go-to Funions were solid, man.

Speaker 40 I used to, yeah.

Speaker 15 And what's cool, though, is like, what's super dope about the human body is that it's so resilient.

Speaker 46 It can overcome basically everything.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 2 somebody on your team like has a past of addiction, right?

Speaker 9 And he's sober now and like living his best life with a family.

Speaker 58 And like.

Speaker 12 It's so important to understand that humans are

Speaker 52 such resilient creatures.

Speaker 47 And whatever you're going through now, there's always an opportunity to overcome that obstacle and use that, use that obstacle, that adversity, as like an opportunity to learn and to actually transform the pain into purpose and then help other people who are going through similar type issues.

Speaker 4 You know? Yeah.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 19 you mentioned breath work earlier, and I do the Wim Hoff method every morning. And I saw you got to learn from him, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was that like?

Speaker 71 Dude,

Speaker 71 Wim is such a

Speaker 10 special dude, bro.

Speaker 29 He's got such a special spirit.

Speaker 39 He came to Miami like four years ago, five years ago, and led a workshop for a weekend.

Speaker 2 So I attended that workshop.

Speaker 16 And just being in his presence, bro, I think is the most inspiring thing

Speaker 51 because

Speaker 1 I think the biggest thing that our country lacks is purpose.

Speaker 43 You know, most people, I would argue, are depressed because they're lacking purpose.

Speaker 9 They wake up in the morning and they're not sure why they're waking up.

Speaker 38 And for someone like Wim Hoff, who's in his 60s, he knows very clearly why he's here.

Speaker 29 And he feels so connected to, you know, teaching his practices, whether it's breath work or ice baths, to people all over the world.

Speaker 38 And that's ultimately like what energizes him the most, I think.

Speaker 60 So it's cool to kind of see that.

Speaker 9 He actually does these in-person week-long retreats.

Speaker 54 And I think I might go this summer.

Speaker 9 It's like a week in Spain,

Speaker 50 and you just get to kick it with whim, dude.

Speaker 3 Like, do crazy shit.

Speaker 19 I've seen videos of those ice bath things he makes everyone do. Yeah, I don't know if I can do it.

Speaker 25 You take cold showers, but don't do ice baths, right?

Speaker 19 Yes, I take cold showers. Ice baths, I'm not entirely sold on it yet.
Do you take those?

Speaker 17 Yeah, bro.

Speaker 18 I take a cold plunge.

Speaker 16 I have a membership at this really dope spot in Miami.

Speaker 25 You'll have to come through when you visit.

Speaker 25 Dude, the cold plunge is such a game changer.

Speaker 37 Like three minutes in there, just fully submerged, and you get out of that thing a different version of yourself.

Speaker 42 Like dopamine levels are through the roof.

Speaker 57 And I think even more importantly than that, from a mindset perspective, you're like, I just did something hard.

Speaker 2 I just did something uncomfortable. So I think it also cultivates confidence in other areas of your life where it's like, yo, I have to have this really challenging conversation with someone.

Speaker 18 Well, fuck.

Speaker 50 It's not going to be that hard.

Speaker 1 Like, I hit the cold plunge this morning. Yeah.

Speaker 17 I got this shit.

Speaker 19 I feel that. You know what I mean? I'll try it.
I haven't done it yet. So I can't speak from experience.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 49 you're like a thin guy.

Speaker 9 Like you don't have any weight problems.

Speaker 47 But dude, one of the best,

Speaker 42 I would say, I mean, maybe the best thing, one of the best things that anyone who's overweight can do to shred fat off of their body is get into ice cold water for three minutes.

Speaker 19 Because the shivering just makes you lose weight.

Speaker 52 There's that.

Speaker 54 And also the cold water activates something called brown fat adipose tissue, which is located mostly in between our shoulder blades.

Speaker 65 And that's like the most mitochondrial rich fat in our body.

Speaker 29 And that helps catabolize other fat cells.

Speaker 39 So, dude.

Speaker 23 You got to do it.

Speaker 21 But more importantly, if anyone's watching this who's overweight, like 70% of americans are right 70 get your ass in the cold water bro like do that that is way too high i wonder what it was when we were growing up it's definitely skyrocketed the rate of obesity well this is really crazy and i actually took notes on this today when i was when i was coming in here and i was like like what would be some interesting things for us to talk about um i don't know if you saw this but there's recently an article out from the american heart association that was basically connecting intermittent fasting to increased cardiovascular risk.

Speaker 19 Right. I saw this actually.

Speaker 66 Right.

Speaker 25 And then, so they're trying to demonize intermittent fasting.

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 65 And then on the other side of the spectrum, we have drugs like Ozempic,

Speaker 49 which have become like the new thing.

Speaker 42 right in America for anyone who wants to just lose weight.

Speaker 12 And basically what Ozempic does is like shrink your stomach so you don't eat as much.

Speaker 12 But what it's also leading to is a bunch of digestive issues, a bunch of side effects like every other single, like every other pharmaceutical drug has.

Speaker 52 So again, it just

Speaker 12 goes to show like how broken our mindset is when it comes to health.

Speaker 39 It's like something like intermittent fasting, which works, something like cold water exposure or simply exercising and moving your body, like these will help you

Speaker 46 sustainably lose weight, right?

Speaker 52 But we're much more inclined to do something like Ozempic because it's a band-aid and it's going to give us results quicker.

Speaker 12 But those results aren't going to last. Nope.

Speaker 71 And it's going to present us a whole host of other problems down the road.

Speaker 19 Yeah. I've been offered life-changing money to promote Ozempic and I just won't do it because it's against everything I believe in.

Speaker 19 But I'm talking like over seven figures.

Speaker 28 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 19 And that's common in people with a big following to promote stuff like that. And a lot of people do give into that.

Speaker 19 So that's how it spreads so quick because the money they're making, think about their margins.

Speaker 19 I don't know what they're charging for that one specifically, but I heard the margins in the pharma space are 80, 90% on some of these drugs.

Speaker 19 So they can just dish that out to influencers to promote it all day.

Speaker 65 That's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 19 And make it killing, dude.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 44 I mean,

Speaker 44 it's so unfortunate.

Speaker 5 Like, we've basically glorified.

Speaker 2 obesity in America.

Speaker 16 You know, if you look on the cover of Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, it's like a plus size model, right?

Speaker 43 And don't get me wrong, like I think it's beautiful to give us, give ourselves other visuals and models of what beauty can look like, but I don't think there's anything

Speaker 65 healthy about being 50, 60, 70 pounds overweight and the message that that sends to our youth.

Speaker 23 Where it's like, oh, wow, I can be fat.

Speaker 42 I can be unhealthy and get on the cover of a fitness magazine.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 59 Like,

Speaker 3 I don't think that's a good message to send to the kids.

Speaker 43 And, and, you know, if we actually just promoted like a healthy lifestyle, bro,

Speaker 21 and some of the stuff we're talking about today, it's like so much of this shit would just figure itself out.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 19 It is very interesting that we're one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but one of the poorest in health.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Like, it's super interesting. I don't know what's going on, but it needs to be fixed.

Speaker 49 Dude, I was, I was thinking about this again this morning.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about

Speaker 45 if you were a government,

Speaker 23 what would you do to destroy your civilization, right?

Speaker 6 And it's things like feed the people process poison.

Speaker 32 It's make the soil extremely toxic, put fluoride in the tap water, force everyone to get a jab,

Speaker 6 have a war on genders, make porn and alcohol easily accessible, um, medicate people with Adderall and antidepressants, um, and have a mainstream media that's just going to always push fear and negativity.

Speaker 43 Those are the things that I would do if I wanted to destroy a civilization.

Speaker 38 And if you look at our country right now, all of those things I just mentioned are happening.

Speaker 19 So, why would they want to destroy the civilization? Is the question.

Speaker 12 I think the biggest reason why

Speaker 44 our government wants its citizens to be weak

Speaker 23 is because weak people are going to be sheep and they're going to be dependent on whatever you tell us to do, whether that's putting this shot in your arm, whether it's eating shitty food, whether it's keeping a six feet distance from your family members, right?

Speaker 6 So the only way that people are going to conform to all of these ridiculous rules is if they're disempowered.

Speaker 58 And if you think about how so many people right now in America are living their life, bro, it's from a disempowered state.

Speaker 42 They're waking up, not feeling a sense of purpose.

Speaker 60 They're working a job that they hate.

Speaker 16 They're paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 18 They're eating shitty food every single day.

Speaker 62 They're drinking tap water.

Speaker 18 They're

Speaker 39 at odds.

Speaker 12 with themselves because they know they're squandering so much potential.

Speaker 10 And ultimately, I think that's why our country's become so divisive because it's like the people who are actually taking ownership of their life.

Speaker 61 And then it's like the people who's a majority still, who are still a slave to all these systems.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 19 And I hate to see it because that's the common people, but a lot of it is also, I think, money too. They can't afford certain things that we have access to.
Yeah. Money and knowledge, I'd say.

Speaker 19 Those two things.

Speaker 2 But I would argue that knowledge has become democratized.

Speaker 19 It's getting getting easier to access knowledge now yes but i think growing up before social media where we were all listening to the news and radio it was a lot harder to get out of it yeah i think i think what it comes down to bro is like

Speaker 12 knowledge is not power but knowledge is potential power because i could literally go into your library of 300 400 episodes and listen to every conversation and actually take action on what you're saying and what your guests are saying and create a really fucking fucking cool life.

Speaker 40 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 But a lot of people struggle to take action.

Speaker 19 Yeah, they need to study why certain people could just take immediate action. Some people read a book, they can have an immediate ROI, and then other people read it, nothing happens.

Speaker 19 I wonder what it is.

Speaker 16 I think a big part of it is fear

Speaker 48 because the people who are most successful, all of them took massive action and took chances and took risks.

Speaker 52 And they also weren't so

Speaker 61 consumed by the opinions of other people.

Speaker 19 That's a huge one. Yeah.
Because I used to have that heavy and now I don't at all. But yeah, that's a big one.
Yeah. A lot of people have that one because it's like a fitting in type of thing.

Speaker 19 I think it might be a survival instinct almost to find that tribe, right?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 19 So putting yourself in a spot where they might make fun of you or lose you as a friend is scary to people.

Speaker 36 For sure.

Speaker 25 I always ask people the question like that I work with.

Speaker 44 Do you want to fit in or do you want to change the world?

Speaker 19 Because you can't do both. Yeah, look at Elon Musk.
I mean, he probably has no friends, but he's changing the world. So he took, he knew the risk of that.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 52 And I would argue he probably does have friends and he probably has like really high quality friends, just a small circle of them.

Speaker 5 I mean, the dude also has nine children, bro.

Speaker 19 I think more now.

Speaker 18 Really? He might have 10.

Speaker 31 That's crazy.

Speaker 41 Double digits for Elon. But that's a perfect example, right?

Speaker 53 And you can see someone like him is getting scrutinized in the media, right?

Speaker 49 Because he is making such a massive impact with every single company he's built.

Speaker 54 It's crazy.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 30 So,

Speaker 69 yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 I mean, it really, it really comes down to that.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 15 the more we can release our attachment to other people's opinions and judgments, I think the more free we will feel in just fully pursuing our passions and pursuing our

Speaker 8 path and our purpose.

Speaker 57 And, you know,

Speaker 10 yeah, dude, I hate to see that too.

Speaker 53 Cause like it's, it's one of the first things I noticed too, like working with people is they have so much like amazing shit to share, but they're so scared to share it.

Speaker 2 because their voice has somehow been silenced. Right.

Speaker 24 And they feel like maybe their voice doesn't matter.

Speaker 18 Or

Speaker 12 again, they don't want to be criticized or judged by their peers, by their family, by their friends, you know, for being unique.

Speaker 19 Yeah, we need to promote. I think it's a negative mindset a lot of people have.
I had it growing up.

Speaker 19 I think a lot of people had it because of the news and all these other things, subconscious programming.

Speaker 19 So we need to figure out how to reverse that and unlearn that, that way of thinking.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 26 I always like, one of the things that I do is

Speaker 68 on my phone,

Speaker 61 I have a picture of myself when I was like seven or eight years old.

Speaker 41 And the reason for that is because if you think of a kid,

Speaker 47 they're just living life, bro.

Speaker 12 You know, they're not overly concerned about what people are saying about them.

Speaker 59 Right.

Speaker 43 You know, when you're six, seven, eight years old, you're outside, you're playing with your friends.

Speaker 9 You have this certain level of joy and freedom that most adults don't have.

Speaker 62 So when I look at this picture, I'm like, yo,

Speaker 41 what would little Jeremy just want to do right now?

Speaker 51 Whether it's jump on the trampoline, whether it's dance, whether it's sing, whether it's, you know, play basketball.

Speaker 25 And how can we implement more of that in our lives?

Speaker 25 You know, even if it's for five minutes, like, yo, sing in the car just so you fucking let out that energy.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 69 You know what I mean?

Speaker 22 And I feel like the more we can activate our inner child, the more

Speaker 22 at peace, the more happy, the more fulfilled we're going to be.

Speaker 19 I love that. Yeah, my hypnotist actually prescribed me to start singing in the car to open up my throat chakra more.

Speaker 58 Are you doing that? Yeah.

Speaker 19 And it's definitely worked. It's helped.

Speaker 9 What are you singing to?

Speaker 19 What's your go-to? I'm more of a 2,000 throwbacks because all the modern music I cannot trust with the subconscious programming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I go back, man, before that narrative started.

Speaker 19 So what type of music, though?

Speaker 71 Do you have a couple of favorite artists?

Speaker 19 I used to listen to Green Day a lot. I had to kind of chill with Lincoln Park because some of their music is kind of depressing.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I used to love Lincoln Park, I used to listen to Nickelback, Backstreet Boys, um, all those 2000s hits, you know. Hell yeah, dude.

Speaker 7 Do you ever hit like karaoke?

Speaker 23 I like karaoke, I do like it.

Speaker 19 Cool, yeah, karaoke is a fun time, dude. It's been fun.
Anything you want to close off with or promote?

Speaker 23 Um, I would love to uh

Speaker 38 just promote people

Speaker 44 taking ownership of their life, you know, and realizing and recognizing how much power and potential they have within. You know, I think

Speaker 55 most people aren't depressed.

Speaker 54 They're just lacking basic human needs.

Speaker 26 They're lacking sunshine.

Speaker 19 They're lacking real whole food.

Speaker 26 They're lacking human connection. They're lacking a sense of purpose.

Speaker 52 So the more we can just go all in on these free drugs, the more fulfilled, the more happy we're going to be.

Speaker 24 If anyone wants to learn more about the microdosing mastermind, they can just go to microdosingmastermind.com.

Speaker 49 They can hit me up on the Graham at jeremy.awakens.

Speaker 50 And I would love if they just tagged us both in their story and let us know, like, yo, what was the thing that really resonated from the conversation with you and I?

Speaker 34 Love it.

Speaker 26 So we can just kind of get feedback too.

Speaker 7 So anyways, brother, I appreciate you.

Speaker 19 Thanks for coming on, on, man. We'll link everything below.
Thanks for watching, guys. As always, I hope you look more into micro-dosing.
See you next time.

Speaker 18 Peace.