The Dark Side of Antidepressants: What No One Tells You | Jeremy Seth DSH #669

A lot of moms actually have something called empty nest syndrome, which is basically, you know, their children are out of the house and a big part of their purpose has disappeared.

My mom would talk so negatively about herself, man, and it would break my heart to see.

And I feel like micro-dosing helped her.

I don't think I've ever met anyone who's taking antidepressants that is also happy.

Ironic, right?

All right, guys, we got Jeremy Seth here from Miami Beach.

We're going to be talking micro-dosing today.

I'm excited, man.

Hell yeah, dude.

Let's do this.

Are you on one right now?

I am not, actually.

Usually on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we micro-dose my community and I, but today,

this morning, just had a little coffee and I feel like I had that natural high where I'm just dialed in, making deep, passionate love to the present moment.

So I'm like, let's get it.

And yeah, bro, excited to be here.

Nice.

Yeah, coffee's a pretty good alternative to it it's uh you get pretty locked in on coffee yeah sometimes i mean the thing is just like everything as you're familiar with

we've been we've been really bombarded with all sorts of chemicals glyphosate and coffee is one of the most sprayed crops in the world

so what's interesting about coffee is it's actually the richest source of antioxidants for the average american but you want to make sure it's organic, sustainably sourced, mold and toxin-free.

I actually drink this coffee called Purity Coffee.

Yeah.

And it tastes delicious, and it's just the highest quality shit.

It's really good.

I need to look into the pods I'm using because you got me worried now.

It's one of those things.

Like

I was listening to your podcast with Ben Greenfield, right?

And you guys were talking about biohacking and stuff like that.

And for me, I feel like there's a point where you can take this health thing a little too far.

You know what I'm saying?

Where you're like overly obsessed about every single thing, you know, from the water you're drinking to the food you're eating, to the way you're sleeping, to the light exposure, and to the boxers you're wearing, to the materials you're exposing yourself to.

And I feel like it can easily go to that edge where

you're so obsessed that it causes anxiety, which is going to drive inflammation.

And it also just like limits your ability to live life.

Yeah, there's a balance because some people sleep at the same time, wake up at the same time every single day.

It's almost robotic like.

Yeah.

And I, I mean, I love, I really believe that it's, it's

part of living a fulfilling life is like having some of those late nights, like dancing your face off with your friends.

Maybe that entails having a couple of drinks or whatever it is.

And I'm definitely not a fan of alcohol at all, but sometimes it can be nice to deepen the connection, you know, as long as it's done with intention.

Yeah.

So I like to always try to do my best to navigate with that level of joy where it's like, yes, I'm super passionate about my health and these attention to details, but I also don't want to be so obsessive to the point that it drives anxiety and drives inflammation.

Great advice.

I love that.

I want to dive into this micro-dosing journey.

So were you on a prescription like Adderall or something before?

Yeah, bro.

So interestingly enough, I actually personally wasn't.

You know, when I was a kid, six, seven, eight, nine years old, I was told by most of my teachers that I had ADD

because I couldn't sit still in class.

I was always messing around with friends.

And I always just wanted to move.

You know what I'm saying?

Which I would.

argue is like how a child should live.

Say it's pretty normal.

Yeah, I don't think kids are designed to be stuck in a classroom for eight hours, blasted with fluorescent lighting, learning about shit that they don't really care about.

You know, so the whole premise of just telling a seven-year-old that you're ADHD and you need to pop this methamphetamine so you can focus better

is such a flawed premise.

You know what I mean?

And I think it's a huge reason why we see so many kids grow up and they're dependent on drugs and they struggle with with addiction.

And, you know, for me,

I, I discovered mushrooms

after I first sat with ayahuasca in 2018 in Peru.

And bro, it was so clear to me after that experience that these indigenous medicines and fungi are the answer, like to what our society needs to really heal itself and transform into just a higher consciousness.

So I went down the rabbit hole of studying psilocybin and the way it impacts the brain and neuroplasticity and all these things.

And I was like, this is fucking powerful.

It comes from nature.

It's safe.

It's been used for thousands of years.

And

when you micro-dose with it, you can still function at a high level with your day-to-day activities.

Like I'm showing up here, or I can hang out with my family, or, you know, you can be with your kids at a high level, at a higher level because you're even more present

you're less distracted right you're more in flow state so I think it's dope dude like more people leaning into nature's medicine rather than being dependent on different pharmaceutical drugs in a healthcare system that actually is broken a healthcare system that only makes money when you're sick or when i'm sick you know so i think micro micro-dosing is such a powerful way to take our power back

and really

understand

our potential inside and realize like, yo, bro, as long as I focus on my breath, as long as I eat real whole foods, as long as I'm pursuing my passions and pursuing my purpose, I don't really need anything external to make me feel happy.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

saying yeah

so for me man it wasn't me who was on any antidepressants or adder all or things like that but my brother you know my i have one older brother and he was on all the different pharmaceuticals and none of this seemed to work

and there reached a point where i was like i want to take matters into my own hands and help my brother heal and help my family because clearly the current system ain't doing shit to get it right.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Absolutely.

I saw on your Instagram you had some tension with your brother, right?

You guys didn't get along at certain points.

Yeah, man.

Do you have any siblings?

I have two half-brothers, but we weren't really close, to be honest, growing up.

So, yeah.

So

it's interesting because whenever I share the story with my brother, I feel like so many people can relate to it, you know.

And when I was 13 and my brother was 18, he went down a path of, you know, experimenting with weed and other drugs.

And

it led to a dark rabbit hole.

And, you know, it really disconnected him and I, disconnected him from the rest of our family.

And it was fucking tough, bro.

It's really tough when

someone in your life that you really care about is in a dark place and you feel helpless.

like there's nothing you can do to actually help them improve and get better.

You know?

And

that experience actually sitting with ayahuasca really showed me how much my brother's absence hurt.

Wow.

And that's what opened my eyes to like, yo, let me see if there's anything I can do to actually

bridge the gap between us.

Because I feel like so often we let guilt.

We let resentment.

We let shame, we let fear dictate our reality.

And I know how much shame and guilt my brother had for some of the things he had done and for some of the things he hadn't done, right?

So for me, it was all about forgiveness.

It's like, bro, that shit's part of the past.

We all fuck up.

We all make mistakes.

Let's

focus on our bright future together because we have a lot of years to make things right and to improve the situation.

So for me, it was like just an opportunity to

let go of any resentment I had and just be focused on creating the relationship that I actually desire with my brother.

Nice.

You know, and he actually just sat in a mushroom ceremony with me for the first time last month, which is

amazing.

We got to dive into that.

So did you introduce him to micro-dosing and that kind of helped him get off those prescriptions?

Yes and no.

Yes and no.

He is definitely in a much better place right now.

But there's still opportunities to

still opportunities to like improve.

And there's still a couple medications that are present there.

But I'm confident that

if we take a patient long-term approach, we can really like create harmony.

I think the biggest thing I see, bro, is we've helped a lot of people safely wean off of things like Adderall and antidepressants.

The most important thing in that process is patience.

Because the worst thing that you can do is after taking Adderall every day for a couple of years or antidepressant every day for a couple of years, just going cold turkey.

Right.

Because your brain and body has become so accustomed to these different chemicals.

So when you completely deprive yourself of that instantly, your brain and body is like fucking confused.

And it can be very dangerous.

So when we work with clients, first and foremost, we take a very patient, sustainable approach because

I want them to free themselves from pharma forever, not just for a couple of days or a couple of weeks or a couple of months.

I want this to be like a lifelong change that they make.

So, I much rather be patient and make sure we're being safe and responsible in that process.

I love that, man.

This is some powerful stuff.

And you even have a mastermind center on this, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, we have a micro-dosing mastermind.

That is so cool, dude.

I got to check that out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So in addition to micro-dosing three days a week, right,

we also are implementing all the other holistic practices that are necessary to really create health and healing.

So mastering your morning routine, getting your gut health dialed in, you know, breath work, meditation, moving your body, and also subconscious reprogramming.

Because oftentimes it's the limiting beliefs in the stories and the narratives from our past that really prevent us from stepping into our power and unleashing our potential.

So

I know you had Paul on your show, and I know you agree with this as well.

Like

there's no psychedelic, including microdosing.

Like micro-dosing is not a magic pill.

You know, if you eat like shit, if you sleep like shit, if you don't move your body, if you're working a job that you hate, micro-dosing isn't just going to magically fix everything.

You know what I mean?

So that's why it's so important to address the other areas, you know, cleaning up your gut health, removing different environmental toxins from your life, pursuing your passions and purpose.

And then also most importantly, I think, is having a community of like-minded, growth-oriented people

who you can express your most authentic self to.

You know, and you don't have to apologize for expressing your emotions or feeling your feelings

and that's really i think where the growth happens is through community you know because you're an entrepreneur you probably

at some times at times you probably get lonely on this journey for sure especially early on yeah early on it was a daily thing yeah dude and i go through that too at points you know where I feel alone.

I feel like there's no one I can talk to about the shit that I'm feeling because I don't want to burden them.

You know, and that's tough, bro.

Like, if we continue to push our feelings down and suppress our emotions, it's just going to manifest in ugly ways later on, you know, especially as men, like we've been programmed to just not feel, just to

numb ourselves.

And one of the things I'm really big on, you know, is allowing yourself to fully feel your feelings and the range of emotions that comes up.

And how do you go about doing that?

I mean, really, bro, is like sitting with yourself.

Like simply put, you need to sit with yourself with no distractions.

Yeah.

So when you feel the sadness, when you feel the anxiety, instead of just ripping the vape or pouring a drink of alcohol.

or watching porn, instead of doing any of those lower vibrational activities, you actually just commit to sitting with yourself

and feeling what it feels like in your body.

What does sadness feel like?

What does anger feel like?

What does resentment feel like?

And breathing through those things and processing them and journaling about them will allow you to actually transmute them into

lessons

and to valuable experiences.

Because the truth is, bro, like, you know, you can't feel pleasure without pain.

You know, that's why we need those rainy days in our life.

Yeah.

You know, in Miami, it's funny because when it raids, dude, like the whole city shuts down.

You know?

It rains there daily, doesn't it?

In the summer it does.

Oh, okay.

In the summer, it does.

But what's so interesting about that is

after living in Miami for years,

you have to embrace the rain.

You can't just make an excuse like, oh, it's rainy outside.

I'm not going to do shit today.

It's like, no, like I can't fully enjoy a beautiful, sunny beach day without the shitty, cloudy, dark, rainy days.

So

we need to be willing to feel those lower

vibrational emotions.

We need to be willing to sit with the fear, the anger, the pain.

If we really want to experience joy, pleasure, gratitude, you know, it's a whole spectrum of emotions.

So if we're limiting ourselves on one side, we're going to be limiting ourselves on the other.

Right.

I love that.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, it does.

I used to suppress all of those.

And I've been working on, especially this year and last year, just being able to feel them, particularly sadness.

I used to not cry for like 10, 15 years, probably.

But now it's something I'm actually letting it happen.

You know what I mean?

When's the last time you cried?

Honestly, a few days ago, thinking about my dad who passed away.

But even during movies, like I used used to just hold tears back because I wanted to look tough as a guy, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

But there's some sad movies, man.

There's some sad moments.

So I just kind of let the tears flow now.

Yeah.

I think it's important because when you bottle up all those emotions, I'm learning this from Eastern medicine doctors and a bunch of spiritual people.

That affects your health, your organs, and everything.

Dude, it's crazy.

It's

really interesting how,

and I think sometimes, especially in Western medicine, we ignore the mind-body connection.

We treat symptoms rather than actually addressing the root cause.

And all of our feelings and emotions are stored in the tissues of our body and our nervous system.

So that's why you see like so many children who grow up in, you know, a single family household or maybe one of their parents wasn't around much.

They have this concept of abandonment.

Right.

And they'll navigate.

their adult life with that same mindset.

Right.

Right.

So like when they're entering a relationship, they'll have this fear that the other person's going to leave them.

And oftentimes we don't recognize this story as coming deep from our childhood, bro.

So that's dope that you are leaning into that now.

Yeah, I could see that.

They say daddy issues, right?

That's like a common term thrown around.

And I grew up in a single parent household and I definitely had some abandonment stuff, I think, growing up.

Yeah.

I think

I was actually thinking about this the other day.

Like

they talk a lot about white privilege.

You know what i mean and i think the ultimate privilege in 2024 is growing up in a two-parent household with a mother and a father that love each other

and that show you love

like i think

i think um

i think my

biggest privilege growing up was having my mom and dad around

to show me love, to teach me values, to teach me morals, to give me a moral compass.

And bro, over 50% of marriages end up in divorce here in America.

And then so many of those marriages that are still surviving, they're not actually thriving.

So the children are witnessing these parents always fighting or there's violence or there's tension.

So they're not growing up in an environment that actually is safe.

So I would argue that my biggest privilege that I was born with isn't necessarily being white.

I think it's the fact that I was born to two amazing parents who loved each other, who loved me unconditionally and just raised me the right way.

I think if you look at the numbers, you're absolutely right.

Because like you said, 50% in the U.S., but in major cities, it's actually closer to 70.

So I was with Walter O'Brien yesterday, who's the third smartest man in the world, third highest IQ.

And he was telling me this actually.

In LA, it's closer to 70%.

And then out of those remaining 30%, I think he said 25% of those are unhappy or something and they just can't afford it or all these other reasons.

So it's actually insane.

It's closer to 95%.

That's, that's wild.

Yeah.

So you're in that 5% of happy families, basically.

Yeah, dude.

And I think about this a lot too.

Like, as, you know, I'm 33.

So I think about like the person I want to settle down with and really commit to and start a family with, you know, because I'm so aware of those numbers, bro.

And

it's scary because

you've hung out, you spent time with a lot of successful people, right?

And I would argue that one thing I notice with a lot of successful men when you talk to them is like their quality of life is determined by the quality of their marriage.

And if their marriage is in a place that is fragile and there's a lot of tension, there's a lot of fighting,

they're not going to feel at peace regardless if their business is crushing it.

Right.

And on the contrary, when you meet a man who's like in such a stable marriage where there's just a deep connection and a deep trust and a deep unconditional love,

they're just so at peace.

Like their presence is just like amazing.

Yeah.

You know?

Plays a major role, man.

Like you said, I hang out with a lot of the top entrepreneurs and I notice they usually got a great girl by their side.

I'd say 80% of them.

Yeah.

It's a major thing people don't talk about.

Yeah, dude.

Because there's this whole lifestyle on Instagram and stuff of dating many girls, hooking up with all these girls and they glamorize it.

But

that's not the key, man.

Yeah.

You want to make in business?

You need a good girl, one girl by your side, in my opinion.

Yeah.

No, I think that's right.

I think that's right.

Because

all of the other shit is just a distraction.

But it's also on the contrary, like having those life experiences because you don't want to go into a marriage or a committed relationship and wondering, like, what if I would have, you know, gone to Thailand and, you know, had these crazy experiences or

it's more long term.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But everyone goes through that whole phase, you know?

What, what's it been like for you kind of as you've moved to Vegas?

Like, did you find yourself like getting into any of that?

Yeah, I had a bit of a, not even a hoe phase.

I wasn't pulling that much, but in college, I dabbled a little bit and then found my girl pretty early.

So we've been together for seven, almost seven years now.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

Where'd you go to college?

Rutgers, New Jersey.

Rutgers.

Dope.

Okay, cool.

Yeah, it was fun.

Lasted a year.

You lasted a year at Rutgers and then you dropped out?

Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah, I didn't make it, man.

Wasn't for me.

Yeah, dude.

I look back at my college experience at the University of Oregon and

I'm grateful for it, but I also recognize that there's practically nothing from those four years.

I majored in business and sports marketing.

I don't think there's really anything from

those four years at Oregon that I'm actually applying on a daily basis into my life, my business, my relationships now.

Wow.

And that's four years of time, probably 200K.

Yeah.

You know, thank goodness I didn't have student loans, but like, bro, we really have to reconsider the higher education system in America.

We do.

Not even just the higher, just the whole education system.

For sure.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

When I was growing up, if you didn't go to college, you were like a loser.

Like people made fun of you and stuff.

That was like the normal thing in Jersey.

Yeah.

But I think people need to reshift that mindset because I'm the opposite.

If you don't go to college, I'm interested in what you're up to.

I think the paradigm is definitely shifting.

Yeah, I hope it is.

You convinced your 75-year-old parents to take psychedelics.

Yeah, bro.

So

it's interesting, right?

Because I don't even like the word convincing because

it almost implies that you're pushing it onto someone.

Right.

And it's like pressuring them.

For me, you know, my dad was a brain doctor and my mom,

who was the best mom ever, you know, she dedicated her life to just raising my brother and I, you know,

she battled depression, especially after both of us left the house.

A lot of moms actually

have something called empty nest syndrome, which is basically, you know, their children are out of the house and a big part of their purpose has disappeared.

Cause it's like they spent their whole life taking care of the kids and now the kids are gone.

So it's like, shit, what do I do with my life?

Right.

Right.

So I think my mom had a lot of that, bro.

And,

you know, she had tried all the antidepressants, all the other things

for many years, and clearly they weren't working, you know?

So my dad finally gave me permission to get my mom on a micro-dosing protocol.

And I think the biggest difference I saw in my mom was the way she treated herself.

Like, my mom would talk so negatively about herself, man.

And it would break my heart to see.

And I feel like micro-dosing helped her.

be more patient and compassionate with herself

and be more kind to herself, you know, go on more walks, not be so hard on herself, like enjoy, relax a little bit more.

Right.

So that was really cool to see.

I love that.

Yeah.

And I think it's a really important, it's really important to recognize, bro.

Like, I don't know about you, but I don't think I've ever met anyone who's taking antidepressants that is also happy.

Ironic, right?

Yeah.

Because what these drugs do is numb your emotions.

Right.

So yeah, you might feel less sad, right?

But

you're definitely not going to experience peak levels of happiness, joy, gratitude, pleasure.

It depletes you.

Exactly.

Yeah, I was on Xanax for a bit.

I was also on Accutane, which is pretty much all your emotions are shot on that.

So I know what you mean.

Did the Accutane work, though?

Because you have clear skin.

I mean, kind of, but it's not worth the side effects.

How long were you on it for?

Seven months.

I mean, they literally blood test you every month because it's so toxic.

They want to make sure you're not dying.

It's pretty crazy.

The skincare industry is toxic in general.

Oh, yeah.

Anything not natural for skincare, I don't put on anymore.

What's really, what's really wild is I think

in the European Union, there's over 1,300 banned ingredients from skincare and cosmetics.

And in the United States, I'm pretty sure there's only 11.

banned ingredients.

It's because it brings in so much money, I bet.

Of course.

But we have to understand that our skin's our biggest organ.

So, like, everything we put on our skin, sunblock, makeup, whatever it may be, absorbs into your bloodstream.

And it's going to shift your biology.

It's going to shift your hormones.

It's going to shift the way you feel and the way you look.

So, yeah, man, just being super conscious about that type of shit is really important.

Yeah, I'm glad there's more awareness, especially in the acne space.

Cause when we were growing up, we were just taught to put on face wash and all the, all these creams.

We were never taught to fix our, like, what we're eating, right?

That was never even in the conversation.

And now the narrative's shifting where it's like your gut health causes these breakouts.

And I'm glad to see that for sure, dude.

And I, and it pains me because you had, did you have pretty bad acne?

Terrible.

I had scars, I had acne, I had like hyperpigmentation, all that.

Yeah.

So I used to, I used to have really bad acne too.

And when I see someone going through that now, bro, I have so much compassion

because I just remember going through the thick of it and like being so afraid to be seen or looked at.

Like I would wear my hoodie regardless of what the weather and temperature was outside.

And I would just be like, please don't look at me.

And if I had the knowledge now that I, if I had the knowledge then that I do now and like, wow, if I actually eat clean, like whole real foods and remove some of the seed oils and the artificial bullshit, like that's going to impact my skin in a powerful way.

It's, it's important, man.

Unfortunately, they don't teach this stuff in school.

That's why we need to have these conversations.

I know, right?

So if you're watching this with acne guys, it's your diet.

It's not these face washes that are going to treat it.

Yeah.

I used to scrub that shit so hard in my face.

Yeah, bro.

And

what's really fucked up too, and I feel so bad

for girls because I feel like it's even harder being a female, you know, not that I know, but

like seeing women when they have like a little bit of acne or a pimple or whatever, what do they do?

They cover it up with makeup and that makeup is toxic.

Right.

So in the long long run it's making the problem worse but in the short term it's covering it up it's putting a band-aid over a bullet wound like our society typically does but like you mentioned bro like cleaning up your gut cleaning up these different areas of life like makes the world of difference with everything i had some major gut issues i used to eat four bags of chips for lunch in middle school that was my lunch for two years straight what type of chips uh all of them man fritos hot cheetos funyuns my school sold all of those funyunes were my go-to Funions were solid, man.

I used to, yeah.

And what's cool, though, is like, what's super dope about the human body is that it's so resilient.

It can overcome basically everything.

Yeah.

You know,

somebody on your team like has a past of addiction, right?

And he's sober now and like living his best life with a family.

And like.

It's so important to understand that humans are

such resilient creatures.

And whatever you're going through now, there's always an opportunity to overcome that obstacle and use that, use that obstacle, that adversity, as like an opportunity to learn and to actually transform the pain into purpose and then help other people who are going through similar type issues.

You know?

Yeah.

So

you mentioned breath work earlier, and I do the Wim Hoff method every morning.

And I saw you got to learn from him, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What was that like?

Dude,

Wim is such a

special dude, bro.

He's got such a special spirit.

He came to Miami like four years ago, five years ago, and led a workshop for a weekend.

So I attended that workshop.

And just being in his presence, bro, I think is the most inspiring thing

because

I think the biggest thing that our country lacks is purpose.

You know, most people, I would argue, are depressed because they're lacking purpose.

They wake up in the morning and they're not sure why they're waking up.

And for someone like Wim Hoff, who's in his 60s, he knows very clearly why he's here.

And he feels so connected to, you know, teaching his practices, whether it's breath work or ice baths, to people all over the world.

And that's ultimately like what energizes him the most, I think.

So it's cool to kind of see that.

He actually does these in-person week-long retreats.

And I think I might go this summer.

It's like a week in Spain,

and you just get to kick it with whim, dude.

Like, do crazy shit.

I've seen videos of those ice bath things he makes everyone do.

Yeah, I don't know if I can do it.

You take cold showers, but don't do ice baths, right?

Yes, I take cold showers.

Ice baths, I'm not entirely sold on it yet.

Do you take those?

Yeah, bro.

I take a cold plunge.

I have a membership at this really dope spot in Miami.

You'll have to come through when you visit.

Dude, the cold plunge is such a game changer.

Like three minutes in there, just fully submerged, and you get out of that thing a different version of yourself.

Like dopamine levels are through the roof.

And I think even more importantly than that, from a mindset perspective, you're like, I just did something hard.

I just did something uncomfortable.

So I think it also cultivates confidence in other areas of your life where it's like, yo, I have to have this really challenging conversation with someone.

Well, fuck.

It's not going to be that hard.

Like, I hit the cold plunge this morning.

Yeah.

I got this shit.

I feel that.

You know what I mean?

I'll try it.

I haven't done it yet.

So I can't speak from experience.

And

you're like a thin guy.

Like you don't have any weight problems.

But dude, one of the best,

I would say, I mean, maybe the best thing, one of the best things that anyone who's overweight can do to shred fat off of their body is get into ice cold water for three minutes.

Because the shivering just makes you lose weight.

There's that.

And also the cold water activates something called brown fat adipose tissue, which is located mostly in between our shoulder blades.

And that's like the most mitochondrial rich fat in our body.

And that helps catabolize other fat cells.

So, dude.

You got to do it.

But more importantly, if anyone's watching this who's overweight, like 70% of americans are right 70 get your ass in the cold water bro like do that that is way too high i wonder what it was when we were growing up it's definitely skyrocketed the rate of obesity well this is really crazy and i actually took notes on this today when i was when i was coming in here and i was like like what would be some interesting things for us to talk about um i don't know if you saw this but there's recently an article out from the american heart association that was basically connecting intermittent fasting to increased cardiovascular risk.

Right.

I saw this actually.

Right.

And then, so they're trying to demonize intermittent fasting.

Okay.

And then on the other side of the spectrum, we have drugs like Ozempic,

which have become like the new thing.

right in America for anyone who wants to just lose weight.

And basically what Ozempic does is like shrink your stomach so you don't eat as much.

But what it's also leading to is a bunch of digestive issues, a bunch of side effects like every other single, like every other pharmaceutical drug has.

So again, it just

goes to show like how broken our mindset is when it comes to health.

It's like something like intermittent fasting, which works, something like cold water exposure or simply exercising and moving your body, like these will help you

sustainably lose weight, right?

But we're much more inclined to do something like Ozempic because it's a band-aid and it's going to give us results quicker.

But those results aren't going to last.

Nope.

And it's going to present us a whole host of other problems down the road.

Yeah.

I've been offered life-changing money to promote Ozempic and I just won't do it because it's against everything I believe in.

But I'm talking like over seven figures.

Really?

Yeah.

And that's common in people with a big following to promote stuff like that.

And a lot of people do give into that.

So that's how it spreads so quick because the money they're making, think about their margins.

I don't know what they're charging for that one specifically, but I heard the margins in the pharma space are 80, 90% on some of these drugs.

So they can just dish that out to influencers to promote it all day.

That's fucking ridiculous.

And make it killing, dude.

And

I mean,

it's so unfortunate.

Like, we've basically glorified.

obesity in America.

You know, if you look on the cover of Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, it's like a plus size model, right?

And don't get me wrong, like I think it's beautiful to give us, give ourselves other visuals and models of what beauty can look like, but I don't think there's anything

healthy about being 50, 60, 70 pounds overweight and the message that that sends to our youth.

Where it's like, oh, wow, I can be fat.

I can be unhealthy and get on the cover of a fitness magazine.

Right.

Like,

I don't think that's a good message to send to the kids.

And, and, you know, if we actually just promoted like a healthy lifestyle, bro,

and some of the stuff we're talking about today, it's like so much of this shit would just figure itself out.

Yeah.

It is very interesting that we're one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but one of the poorest in health.

Yeah.

Like, it's super interesting.

I don't know what's going on, but it needs to be fixed.

Dude, I was, I was thinking about this again this morning.

I was thinking about

if you were a government,

what would you do to destroy your civilization, right?

And it's things like feed the people process poison.

It's make the soil extremely toxic, put fluoride in the tap water, force everyone to get a jab,

have a war on genders, make porn and alcohol easily accessible, um, medicate people with Adderall and antidepressants, um, and have a mainstream media that's just going to always push fear and negativity.

Those are the things that I would do if I wanted to destroy a civilization.

And if you look at our country right now, all of those things I just mentioned are happening.

So, why would they want to destroy the civilization?

Is the question.

I think the biggest reason why

our government wants its citizens to be weak

is because weak people are going to be sheep and they're going to be dependent on whatever you tell us to do, whether that's putting this shot in your arm, whether it's eating shitty food, whether it's keeping a six feet distance from your family members, right?

So the only way that people are going to conform to all of these ridiculous rules is if they're disempowered.

And if you think about how so many people right now in America are living their life, bro, it's from a disempowered state.

They're waking up, not feeling a sense of purpose.

They're working a job that they hate.

They're paycheck to paycheck.

They're eating shitty food every single day.

They're drinking tap water.

They're

at odds.

with themselves because they know they're squandering so much potential.

And ultimately, I think that's why our country's become so divisive because it's like the people who are actually taking ownership of their life.

And then it's like the people who's a majority still, who are still a slave to all these systems.

Right.

And I hate to see it because that's the common people, but a lot of it is also, I think, money too.

They can't afford certain things that we have access to.

Yeah.

Money and knowledge, I'd say.

Those two things.

But I would argue that knowledge has become democratized.

It's getting getting easier to access knowledge now yes but i think growing up before social media where we were all listening to the news and radio it was a lot harder to get out of it yeah i think i think what it comes down to bro is like

knowledge is not power but knowledge is potential power because i could literally go into your library of 300 400 episodes and listen to every conversation and actually take action on what you're saying and what your guests are saying and create a really fucking fucking cool life.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But a lot of people struggle to take action.

Yeah, they need to study why certain people could just take immediate action.

Some people read a book, they can have an immediate ROI, and then other people read it, nothing happens.

I wonder what it is.

I think a big part of it is fear

because the people who are most successful, all of them took massive action and took chances and took risks.

And they also weren't so

consumed by the opinions of other people.

That's a huge one.

Yeah.

Because I used to have that heavy and now I don't at all.

But yeah, that's a big one.

Yeah.

A lot of people have that one because it's like a fitting in type of thing.

I think it might be a survival instinct almost to find that tribe, right?

Yeah.

So putting yourself in a spot where they might make fun of you or lose you as a friend is scary to people.

For sure.

I always ask people the question like that I work with.

Do you want to fit in or do you want to change the world?

Because you can't do both.

Yeah, look at Elon Musk.

I mean, he probably has no friends, but he's changing the world.

So he took, he knew the risk of that.

Yeah.

And I would argue he probably does have friends and he probably has like really high quality friends, just a small circle of them.

I mean, the dude also has nine children, bro.

I think more now.

Really?

He might have 10.

That's crazy.

Double digits for Elon.

But that's a perfect example, right?

And you can see someone like him is getting scrutinized in the media, right?

Because he is making such a massive impact with every single company he's built.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

So,

yeah, dude.

I mean, it really, it really comes down to that.

And

the more we can release our attachment to other people's opinions and judgments, I think the more free we will feel in just fully pursuing our passions and pursuing our

path and our purpose.

And, you know,

yeah, dude, I hate to see that too.

Cause like it's, it's one of the first things I noticed too, like working with people is they have so much like amazing shit to share, but they're so scared to share it.

because their voice has somehow been silenced.

Right.

And they feel like maybe their voice doesn't matter.

Or

again, they don't want to be criticized or judged by their peers, by their family, by their friends, you know, for being unique.

Yeah, we need to promote.

I think it's a negative mindset a lot of people have.

I had it growing up.

I think a lot of people had it because of the news and all these other things, subconscious programming.

So we need to figure out how to reverse that and unlearn that, that way of thinking.

Yeah.

I always like, one of the things that I do is

on my phone,

I have a picture of myself when I was like seven or eight years old.

And the reason for that is because if you think of a kid,

they're just living life, bro.

You know, they're not overly concerned about what people are saying about them.

Right.

You know, when you're six, seven, eight years old, you're outside, you're playing with your friends.

You have this certain level of joy and freedom that most adults don't have.

So when I look at this picture, I'm like, yo,

what would little Jeremy just want to do right now?

Whether it's jump on the trampoline, whether it's dance, whether it's sing, whether it's, you know, play basketball.

And how can we implement more of that in our lives?

You know, even if it's for five minutes, like, yo, sing in the car just so you fucking let out that energy.

Right.

You know what I mean?

And I feel like the more we can activate our inner child, the more

at peace, the more happy, the more fulfilled we're going to be.

I love that.

Yeah, my hypnotist actually prescribed me to start singing in the car to open up my throat chakra more.

Are you doing that?

Yeah.

And it's definitely worked.

It's helped.

What are you singing to?

What's your go-to?

I'm more of a 2,000 throwbacks because all the modern music I cannot trust with the subconscious programming.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I go back, man, before that narrative started.

So what type of music, though?

Do you have a couple of favorite artists?

I used to listen to Green Day a lot.

I had to kind of chill with Lincoln Park because some of their music is kind of depressing.

Yeah, I used to love Lincoln Park, I used to listen to Nickelback, Backstreet Boys, um, all those 2000s hits, you know.

Hell yeah, dude.

Do you ever hit like karaoke?

I like karaoke, I do like it.

Cool, yeah, karaoke is a fun time, dude.

It's been fun.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

Um, I would love to uh

just promote people

taking ownership of their life, you know, and realizing and recognizing how much power and potential they have within.

You know, I think

most people aren't depressed.

They're just lacking basic human needs.

They're lacking sunshine.

They're lacking real whole food.

They're lacking human connection.

They're lacking a sense of purpose.

So the more we can just go all in on these free drugs, the more fulfilled, the more happy we're going to be.

If anyone wants to learn more about the microdosing mastermind, they can just go to microdosingmastermind.com.

They can hit me up on the Graham at jeremy.awakens.

And I would love if they just tagged us both in their story and let us know, like, yo, what was the thing that really resonated from the conversation with you and I?

Love it.

So we can just kind of get feedback too.

So anyways, brother, I appreciate you.

Thanks for coming on, on, man.

We'll link everything below.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, I hope you look more into micro-dosing.

See you next time.

Peace.