This Viral Art Stunt Changed My Life Overnight | Jensen Dean DSH #626

He went viral for the John Jones thing.

Yeah.

What exactly happened?

That was wild.

He comes to Brisbane, and then all my friends are DMing me saying, Yo, John Jones is in Brisbane.

I'm like, okay, I'm gonna make him some custom shoes.

I get my moment with him, but it wasn't sort of the moment I wanted with the whole shoe opening.

How can I entertain people with this?

So then I was like, oh, I'll get him to leg kitchen me.

But it didn't hurt enough.

So I was like, bro, you need to leg kitchen me harder.

And I think that sort of fueled him up.

And he just leg kicked me so hard.

All right, guys, 19-year-old from Australia in the art space and making big waves.

Thanks for coming on.

Jensen Dean.

Thank you for having me.

Absolutely.

Thank you for inviting me on this.

Of course.

And you were just in LA for a few days before this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because my brother lives there.

Oh, okay.

We're doing a bit of a family holiday and then came to Vegas.

Vegas is wild.

It is.

Yeah, I had to stop by.

Is this your first time here?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

First time in America.

Damn.

And you can't even get the full Vegas experience because you're not 21.

But you can still have some fun.

I'll have to come back in a few years with you.

You'll have to, but you don't drink.

You're completely sober.

I don't drink.

Yeah, I'm completely sober.

And what prompted that choice at an early age to go down that path?

I think because it's all, I, I, I mean, I think it's all sort of a distraction, and I feel like it would make you

complacent

and sort of happy with where you are.

Whereas if you have no distractions, you are sort of more stressed out, and then then therefore you will work harder to try

succeed and achieve what your goals are.

Yeah, I think that's a rare path for someone your age, but it's interesting to see more and more people are doing it, actually.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a growing movement.

I like that.

Definitely.

Because I definitely wasted some time drinking and smoking weed.

But I mean, I don't know if I'm sort of wasting my youth not

partying on that.

Right.

So you don't party at all?

You don't even go out?

I party, but I mean, it's sort of hard to party if you don't drink.

Right.

Talking to drunk people when you're sober is so weird.

I know, that's why I don't really party.

It's so strange.

Especially when the girl's kind of hitting on you and you're sober.

It's like,

this feels wrong, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

That's why I prefer more like networking events and more businessy stuff.

Yeah, that's why I really parties.

For sure.

How's the entrepreneur scene in Australia where you're at?

I mean, it'll be.

It's...

Nothing compared to America or LA.

I mean, I guess there is a scene, definitely entrepreneur scene.

Okay.

More an entrepreneur scene than art scene.

And more an entrepreneur scene than social media, entertainment scene.

Okay.

So social media is not that big?

Yeah.

Like, there are creators and a few influencers and stuff like that, but it's nowhere near the level it is here.

And it's way harder to link up with people and I just collaborate in Australia.

Like, I come here and I just DM a few people and like I can meet so many more celebrities so much easier.

Oh, easily.

When I'm in LA, I'll bang out 20 podcasts in like three days.

I mean, it's insane.

Yeah.

Because I have to wait for someone to come to Australia to then link up with them.

And people only go there like once a year, Matt.

Yes, probably.

So yeah, it's tough.

It goes so far, man.

That flight is brutal.

20 hours.

I mean, it's probably like 30 hours in total.

I know, with the

time you're waiting.

Plus, we're tall.

Yeah.

And I'm in economy.

Well, I'm not in economy, but I used to be.

That is a brutal.

Oh, I used to go to China in economy.

Oh, my gosh.

because I'm 6'6 yeah so I'm good with that man I want to dive into the art stuff how you got into it and how you blew that up was it something that blew off right away um

my whole life I've been in art but I never really took it seriously until my last year in high school which was last year

well year before that last year a year ago anyway so I was in high school making my art and putting it on social media it never really blew up but I was gaining some traction

And then I've just done one year full-time art.

But this year will be my biggest year yet.

Damn, so you're only two, three years in?

Two years, yeah.

That is crazy.

And you've already

one year officially.

Yeah, and you've already made pieces for some of the biggest celebrities and creators out there.

Yeah, yeah.

So that is just talent then.

Oh, it's talent, hard work, yeah.

A bit of everything.

Yeah, because I feel like most artists got to be at it for years, sometimes decades, to get out there.

Well, that's why I sort of want to pull back and create more artworks every single day and sell to you know the public because I sort of reached a level where I was selling artworks to celebrities when I was still in school, like DMing them, selling artworks for like a lot of money.

And then it's sort of like, there's only so many celebrities and billionaires in the world that once you reach a certain level, it's like, where do you go in 10 years' time?

So I sort of want to pull it back and go a slower journey and get the foundations right.

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And not sort of sell out, if that makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, it does.

So how much are your pieces selling for right now?

Well, again, I sort of don't want to name the price.

I mean, last two years, I won't sell a painting for under like 30K.

Holy.

But that's where the problem is, is because there's only so many people in the world that will want to buy a 30k piece.

Yeah, that is a lot.

So I sort of want to rewind and start again and slowly build it up so more people can buy in and then the artworks will inflate, I guess, as I become more famous.

And then more people will have a piece and not just the rich and elite.

Yeah, that makes sense because if you're starting at 30, it's hard to appreciate.

Yeah, and I don't want my artworks to be a hype beast commodity, sort of.

I want it to be for the people.

Right.

Some of those hype beast brands kind of fell off, right?

Exactly.

And I feel like if money is the motive, it'll never succeed long term.

It has to be a passion, and the goal for me is to change the art world forever.

Wow.

How do you plan on accomplishing that?

Well, I mean, social media is going to help a lot.

Because, for example, imagine Basquiat, but imagine he had social media back then.

It'd be a whole other world.

He'd be a legend.

It'd be a legend.

I mean, he's still in the world.

He is a legend, but...

Because I feel like only really people interested in the art world know who Basquiat is.

But if he had the power of social media, it'd be a stardom on another level.

Be like Michael Jackson level, I think.

Exactly, yeah.

And I don't think an artist yet has sort of reached

not necessarily a Michael Jackson level of fame, but just a paparazzi level of fame.

That's true.

I think the biggest mainstream one I could think of is probably Alec Monopoly.

Yeah.

But there's not many that reach that sort of mainstream notice.

So I sort of want to be the first to

really reach it and might also be the biggest artist in the world.

And I also want to change the art world forever, sort of.

Wow.

So fame is important to you, chasing that?

Not necessarily fame.

It's just, I feel like with fame, you can use that in a lot of good ways.

Right.

Like what I said with the money, I could sort of blow up really quick, but then you're going to fall off.

So I sort of want to just reach a stable level

yeah it's all about stability for me okay finding that that kind of middle ground right yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense i think most artists struggle to even get past that first stage of finding buyers 100

so what do you think kind of separated you from from those guys was it just the because your art is so unique right yeah yeah um

Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, I've only sold artworks to celebrities.

So that's what I sort of don't like.

I sort of want my art to be more for the people.

But yeah, I mean, it's really just networking, DMing tons of people

and making an artwork that you know they will want.

So you sort of have to put your head in the audience's head and figure out what they would want to buy.

And then you make that.

Interesting.

So you sort of have to be two steps ahead.

Yeah, and art evolves so quickly, right?

What's hot now might not be hot.

Yeah.

That's what I noticed because I go to Art Basil and the art's so different every time I I go.

Yeah, that's wild.

I've never been.

Oh, you've never been?

No.

Wow.

Have you been to any art events?

Not really because this is my first time in America.

So in Australia, there's sort of nothing

art-related.

So you really are different from everyone else out there.

Yeah, I mean,

that's what I sort of noticed when I came here.

I was like, I'm not like a weirdo here.

This is normal in LA.

Normal.

So you want to move out here potentially?

Join yourself?

Definitely.

Definitely.

That's cool.

Did he come out here for art too?

Who?

Your brother?

Nah, he does other stuff.

Got it.

But I'm going to go back to my studio in America, I mean, in Australia, and then do maybe three, four months of making art, and then four months every single day making an artwork.

And then I'll come to LA, maybe four months' time, and deliver a load of stuff.

Nice, that's cool.

And what kind of art are you trying to do, a new technique, new piece every time?

I'm building an outside studio.

So I do the art outside, and then I can stand up, better for posture, and basically build in a unique style that no one's ever seen before and

create inconsistent artworks every single day.

Because that's also what's important to grow on social media.

Right.

Oh, so you're standing while you're making your art?

I will be.

Dude, that's impressive.

I bought a standing desk and I don't use it, dude.

I'll be honest.

I mean, it's tough.

It's tough.

I don't know.

Just sitting is so comfortable, but I understand what you're saying about posture.

Yeah.

And especially just when you're painting, you have to sort of lean in and

it's bad.

I get that too.

I got to go to the chiropractor once a week, man.

Massage.

Yeah.

So you went viral for the John Jones thing.

Yeah.

What exactly happened?

That was wild.

Where were you and what went down?

Okay, so he comes to Brisbane.

And then that's like a rare case.

And then all my friends are DMing me saying, yo, John Jones is in Brisbane.

So then I'm like, okay.

I'm going to make him some custom shoes.

So then I make him some custom air mats, 80 sitses.

And then I drive to where his team says he is as I got in contact with all his people.

Then I arrive and it's at like a whole meet and greet.

And I thought it was just going to be me and him in like some studio.

So I was like, what the hell is this?

And then I didn't have tickets for the meet and greet.

Me and my friend sort of drove in and then I get my moment with him, but it wasn't sort of the moment I wanted with the whole shoe opening.

So I was like, I need to...

How can I entertain people with this?

So then I was like, oh, I'll get him to lead kitchen me.

And then I was like, leg kitchen me.

And he leg kit me, but it didn't hurt enough.

So I was like, bro, you need to leg kitchen me harder.

And I was like, harder, harder.

And I think that sort of fueled him up.

And he just legend me so hard.

Oh, my God.

His shin dug in.

And you ended up in the hospital.

Well, I couldn't walk for like a week.

But then,

oh, yeah, it was wild.

Wow.

Don't provoke John Jones, guys, if you see him.

Yeah, that's a lesson.

He won't hold back.

Because I honestly didn't even know who he really was.

Oh, you didn't?

Oh, that's a mistake right there.

Yeah, I know.

That was the biggest mistake.

I didn't even know that he was the UFC champion.

I didn't know he was the best ever.

I just thought he was another sort of UFC fighter.

Yeah.

So I don't know what else getting into it.

He's like the goat.

I know, the best of all time.

That is crazy.

Did he like the shoes at least?

Yeah, yeah, he loved them.

And he commented afterwards.

Oh, yeah.

He's like, I love the shoes, bro.

Dude, that video blew up.

How many views did that shit get?

Well, on my page, it might be down close to six million.

Damn.

But on ESPN, it's probably near 20 million.

Hold on.

It's on every single sports media site in the world, to be honest.

TikTok too and stuff.

In total, it's probably over 100 million combined views.

You might have to make an art piece out of it.

Just

keep kicking you, and that would probably sell for a lot.

Bro,

yeah, I mean, it's insane.

It shows you how your life can change in overnight.

For real.

You never really know what piece of content or artwork will blow you up.

Yeah, I mean, you see it with certain people.

They go viral and some are able to monetize it and then some just fade into into the abyss.

But it sounds like you're really using that as a snowball effect.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

I don't want to be a one-hit wonder.

No, that's my biggest fear, man.

Yeah, exactly.

That's my biggest thing.

Because that's just a dark road.

You see these child actors go down it and

it's really sad because you reach that pinnacle at such a young age and then you never get it again your whole life.

And you're always chasing that validation you want sad.

It's like the people that peak in high school.

Yeah, yeah.

Because that's where they were the quote.

That wasn't me.

That wasn't you.

Was that you?

Hell no.

I was a loser in high school.

Really?

Yeah, if that was my peak, then I was not destined for great things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know?

But sounds like you were so different out there.

You kind of just did your own thing.

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm still doing my own thing.

Because once I go back, I'll be back in Brisbane, Australia, where,

like, yeah, I mean, I'm the odd fish there.

Right.

But here, I'm just a little fish, which is good, as you want to be surrounded by people like you who are more successful than you.

So then.

You it pushes you and motivates you.

Absolutely.

Yeah, it depends on what type of success you're going for, whether it's money, social media followers.

Yeah, it's important to uh be around people doing better than you.

For you, it'd probably be artists, right?

Yeah, yeah, I definitely need to surround myself with like-minded artists.

Yeah, I think Miami would be good for you, too.

Yeah, there's a lot of art down there, that'd be wild, yeah.

Get you in some museums and stuff, yeah, definitely.

Man, can't wait to see your journey.

You're so young, and you're just starting.

You've made pieces for KSI, Logan Paul, I mean, Adesania, right?

Designer Tidd Leroy, Kidd Leroy, uh, and then a few others in the midst that I can't really say, right?

Because they're just the ones that that are publicly known.

Right.

All last year, I made artworks the entire year, and I didn't post or promote a single one.

Damn.

So I have all this unreleased stuff.

Wow.

So you're playing the long game.

I'm playing the long game the whole way.

Yeah, because most people would, as soon as they get the photo, post it.

Yeah, a whole year of artworks, whole year of content.

Damn.

So much videos and art content all saved up.

Not a single soul has seen it or heard about it.

Saved up in the vault.

So, so I have a vault of content and artwork.

Crazy.

So, when are you, like, what's the strategy with that then?

Um,

I think I'll start releasing it maybe midway this year.

Okay.

And it gives me a whole year head start.

So then I can sort of go on holiday and not have to post every day because I have stuff in the vault.

All right.

So you're good at separating the social media from the real life stuff, seems like.

Yeah, yeah.

Some people get caught up in it.

Yeah, no, I definitely plan ahead and think strategically and play my cards.

Right.

Any artists you want to collab with?

Um

Damien Hurst.

Hmm.

He's sick.

That'd be a good one.

Um

I mean, there's so many talented artists.

Yeah.

Is that like a common thing in the

world?

People collab.

Oh, who?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know how you say his name correctly.

No, I know who you're talking about.

He's sick.

Definitely him.

Yeah, wait, how I.

What were you saying?

Is it a common thing for two top artists to collab with each other, or is it kind of like the music industry?

I would say it's far less common than the music industry.

It's more common that an artist would collab with like a brand like Louis Vuitton or off-white.

That makes sense.

But not so much artists and artists.

Yeah, so I'll ask that question then.

What about brand-wise?

Any brands you want to collab with?

I mean, yeah, one day I'd like to be the chief designer of Nike, of

basically

like just want to be, I want to show my designs to the entire world.

Right.

And yeah, I would love to be the creative designer at one of the top companies one day.

That'd be cool.

That's basically what Kanye did.

Yeah, exactly.

I want to be Kanye.

Yeah, because to reach millions, you're going to have to work with a PA Carol brand, right?

Definitely, definitely.

And then I'm also going to launch my own streetwear brand and stuff.

What do you think about digital art, like NFTs and virtual stuff?

I mean, it's a whole nother world.

To be honest with you, your grandma probably knows more about NFTs than me.

Really?

Like, I missed that wave.

Okay.

There was a lot of artists that made a killing off NFTs.

Is it still going strong now?

No.

No, it definitely dies.

It's too late now.

But yeah, there was a couple guys you named and

who's that one guy in Japan?

Tatashi Meyer.

Yeah, he made a killing off NFTs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I missed that wave.

You were 16, 17.

I was in school.

Yeah, plus you're in Australia.

I don't know if they were ever big out there.

Yeah, but I mean,

because it's digital, it could be worldwide.

Right.

Yeah, you can own it from anywhere.

Yeah.

Interesting, but we'll see if it comes back.

I don't know.

Something else might come back.

I feel like it'll be something we've never sort of thought of.

Yeah, maybe like a metaverse

virtual reality art or something, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

Yeah.

All the new

headsets.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you seem like you're going to be able to adapt, pivot to all the new trends.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what Logan said to me.

Don't be afraid to adapt or pivot at any time.

Because I sort of like to have a master plan mapped out strategically, like every month to every year.

But he's like, not so much.

More just go with the flow and adapt at any point.

Right.

What was the piece you made for Logan Paul?

That was when I just turned 16.

And I made it.

And then I was like,

I'm going to try to sell this to Justin Bieber.

And I've never sold an artwork before then.

So I was trying to sell my first artwork to Justin Bieber.

And then I didn't hear back from Justin Bieber.

But that whole time, every day I'd watch Logan Pool's Vlogs, because I was in like coronavirus when this new wave of vlogs were going up.

I used to watch those too.

Yeah, they're sick.

And then Impulsive.

And then I was watching that, and I was like, wait, Logan Lights Pokemon.

So then I was DMing people.

And then

one day I was on my phone.

I forgot about it.

And then I just see like the Logan Pool verified.

Message.

I went wild.

And then, I mean, yeah, it's crazy.

I love that.

And is that how you got to KSI too?

No, I got to KSI just through his people.

Oh, wow.

Not related to Loden Pool.

Interesting.

I haven't, yeah, I haven't linked because I don't really want to use people for their connections.

Right.

I'm sort of kind of the same.

Sometimes I'll

ask, but not like in a direct way.

Yeah.

I don't want to be like, oh, give me this person.

But first I'll give them some value and then I might ask.

You know what I mean?

Just because with podcasts, it's easier if it comes from a friend, if they ask to come on, rather than me hit them up.

Yeah, definitely.

I think art's a little different.

Yeah, yeah.

No, definitely.

But then, of course, if it's a whole business scenario,

it sort of makes sense if you just hit them up or ask and you get me to this person.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Anyone you want to make a piece for?

I know you said Bieber.

I mean, yeah, Bieber's on the list.

Drake.

Drake would be a sick piece.

Drake would be sick.

Any, basically every single celebrity in the world, I'll make a piece for.

Yeah.

And every single brand.

And yeah, I mean, I also want to put some billionaires on the list, which I may have already done, but I won't reveal until the future.

Elon Musk.

Oh, well, Elon Musk is a must.

Mark my words.

I'll sell a piece to Elon Musk.

Same.

I'll have him on the pod one day.

That's a guarantee there, bro.

We'll have to get it together then.

I'm down.

I'll make a piece and then get him on your pod.

If I get him on,

likewise.

Likewise.

I'll get a piece there for you, man.

How long does it take you to make these?

Because they look pretty intense, some of them.

I mean, some of them take months.

Holy crap.

Exactly.

So, but I sort of realized I have to figure out a way to make consistent artworks that are still insanely good

because otherwise it's hard to sort of grow to the next level.

Right.

So I've done some artworks that have taught like two months to do.

Jeez.

Yeah.

That's insane.

I would lose patience, man.

You have amazing patience at your age.

Yeah.

Insanely dedicated.

And that's like 10 hours a day.

Oh, my God.

10 hours a day, two months to just create one artwork.

Dude, that vision is insane.

Yeah, it's wild.

To be able to see that project through.

Yeah.

Do you map it out before you kind of just go with the flow?

I sort of just go with the flow.

Like, I'll get the canvas and I'll be like, this is what I want to paint.

And I'll start the sketch and then start painting it.

But I won't do any digital mapping out or stuff like that.

And it's your best style with the brush or yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, actually, cans.

Because I started out in graffiti.

So

probably spray tans and brush is what I'm best at.

yeah have you seen that guy Art Lena yeah yeah yeah yeah

that's crazy right it's crazy yeah yeah yeah I'm just wondering how well he'll do long term yeah it might be like a phase right you kind of got to branch off a bit yeah yeah well you never know it's it's hard to it's hard to know what will be

popping off in five years time yeah I think art's one of those things it's so hard to predict yeah right yeah definitely and a lot of these famous artists they don't blow up until after they die or later I know which is what I sort of want to figure out as that's the problem that I want to solve.

Yeah, it's so interesting, right?

Because once they die, their art goes up in value sometimes.

Exactly, yeah.

And I guess that's why Bansy is famous because no one knows who he is.

So he sort of has the mysterious.

It's sort of the same effect as dying, if that makes sense.

It is.

It's impressive how he's been able to hide it.

Yeah.

Because there's no theories at all on who it is, which is crazy to me.

Yeah.

In this modern age of social media.

Yeah, it's wild.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You said your favorite artist was Basquiat?

100%.

Why do you like him so much?

I don't know.

See, this is what's weird is I don't even know why I like him so much, but I think he's sort of like the art version of Etzetzets Tentashion.

He sort of just has this like aura about him or something that you just are attracted to.

That's a great comparison.

People love that guy.

I know, but do you know what it is?

What even is it that you like him?

It's that mysterious, right?

And he was a drug addict and had all these personal issues.

I think it's problems is what people relate to, sort of.

Yeah, for sure.

Because we all got our demons, right?

But very few of us will speak up on it so to see it displayed in art form hits people deep i think yeah that's definitely what it is yeah sometimes you need that backstory to sell your art yeah exactly i love that man um any big projects you're working on right now um

i got some uh i'm trying to think what i can say um

i mean i've been doing this mad

the the one month nearly two month piece was often mcdredger oh yeah and i'm gonna get that to him sometime.

I got some billionaires on the list.

I want to do Elon.

Maybe this year or next year, do Elon.

Hell yeah.

I can't wait to see that one.

I mean, that'll be wild.

I wanted to do Elon choking out

Zuckerberg.

Yeah.

Zuck might sue for that.

I know, but then I have friends who have more friends with Zuckerberg.

So I don't know if I want to make enemies.

Ooh.

Yeah, you might have to play a safe on that one.

Yeah.

I really wanted to see them fight.

I know.

I was looking forward to that.

I would have paid for that.

I know.

That would have been the biggest event in Sporting history.

I think Zuck would have won, though.

Definitely.

Zuck's a beast.

I mean, he's trains.

Yeah, he trains jiu-jitsu.

Are you a big UFC fan now?

Yeah, I actually train myself.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

You're an artist and a fighter.

That is a combo I've never heard of.

I know.

Well,

I've trained Taekwondo my entire life.

Yeah.

So like 10 years of kit bots and then I did three years of bots and

then two years of Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

Holy.

And then a year of MMA.

Most artists are just like nerdy and like...

I know, so I low-key can, like, if I wasn't an artist, I'd be a UFC fighter.

For sure.

sure that would be what I would pursue so you're nice but again long-term wise once your career is done in the UFC you're gonna have probably brain damage and then 30 years from your peak like no one's gonna really know who you are or care about you as much yeah I've never other than Connor I haven't seen fighters that have peaked outside of their UFC career Connor sold that company and he's killing it now but that's that's pretty rare it's a rare unicorn yeah it's a game you play right give up your health now for money and fame exactly Exactly.

So, sacrifice.

I don't know if I would do it.

I'd rather just

slow peek rather than douche.

Yeah.

And being a guy, we're able to do that because, like, looks don't matter for us as much as women, right?

So we could just slowly peek, get you half their age, and 100% post off into the sunset.

100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that, man.

Damn, I didn't know you were a fighter.

That's cool.

I know it's weird, huh?

The John Jones stuff makes more sense now.

Yeah, no.

You're able to take that first game.

Not the second, though.

Not the second one.

Oh, he was probably going like 50% on the first one.

I mean, second one, second one was definitely like, I know for a fact, it was 70 to 80% power.

Damn.

100%.

So imagine that in a fight where he's 100%.

I know, but also think about it.

He can't kick someone that hard in a fight because it's too tele-draft.

Oh, okay.

So he winded up.

Yeah, like he probably hasn't kicked someone that hard in his entire life because no one in a fight would let him wind up for three seconds to kick it.

You know, it's so quick.

Well, he's landed some nasty kicks, but yeah, the wind-up one, I could see that.

Yeah, yeah.

Damn.

You got a favorite fighter?

Connor.

Connor?

100%.

He's losing some fans.

Is he?

What for?

People say once the money got to him, he didn't take fighting a seriously.

So I think he's lost like five straight or something.

Real.

But in his peak, he's hard to top, man.

Oh, he was so good on the mic.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was just so entertaining.

He made me get in the sport.

I didn't even watch it for him.

I watch all his motivation.

Yeah, he came from nothing, man.

Yeah.

Sounds like you didn't have a lot of money growing up, too.

Yeah, no.

Well, it was weird because

I'm still growing up because I still live at home.

I live in like a sort of rich neighborhood, but we don't have any money at all because my parents migrated and bought the house when it was worth nothing, like 20 years ago.

So when it was just a random poor sort of area.

And then 20 years later, all the house prices go up.

So now I'm surrounded by wealth, but I don't really have wealth.

Interesting.

Yeah, I heard that happened in

Sydney?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How like a million dollars there now?

It's insane.

That's where you should have bought five years ago.

I know.

So that happened in your neighborhood too?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are you by Sydney?

No, Brisbane.

So like

10-hour drive up north.

Damn.

Okay.

I've only been to Melbourne and Sydney.

Yeah, Brisbane's sort of like a city that's the odd one out.

Yeah, I've heard of it, but I've never been there.

Not too much happening.

Not much to do there?

No.

Yeah, I like Australia.

I just wish it was closer, man, or we could teleport.

Oh, yeah.

It's a sick place.

You'd love it.

The food was so fire.

Yeah.

What sort of food did you get?

The seafood was good out there, man.

I went to Australia and New Zealand.

Seafood was great.

I ate, I'm going to get some hate for this.

I ate some kangaroo.

Nah, kangaroo is good.

Shit was fire.

I had a kangaroo burger, and the spot was right next to the Melbourne Zoo, I think.

So it was kind of funny.

But no, it was good.

People give me hate, but there's so many out there.

You got to eat them because there's more kangaroos.

Oh, they're past.

They're like rats.

Yeah.

And they square up on you.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

That was one of my video ideas.

I want to fight a kangaroo.

But then you get so much hate for that.

You can't really punch it.

You just let it punch you, sort of.

Animal right activists.

They could punch, though, man.

Yeah, they kick as well.

Derek, it's been fun.

Anything you want to promote or close off with?

No, just thank you for having me.

And

yeah, one day I'll be the biggest artist in the world.

I can see it, man.

And this year will be a big year for me.

So I look forward to see where it goes.

Yeah, I can't wait to see that Connor piece.

Yeah, yeah, it'll be wild.

And the Elon.

Oh, yeah.

Let's do it.

All right, guys.

Thanks for watching.

Stay tuned.

Keep an eye on Jensen's artwork.

And I'll see you guys next time.