The Shocking Truth About Mushrooms You Need to Know | Jason Craig AKA Jroc DSH #567

There's so many interesting things in the mushroom world and there's so many different mushrooms out there that we haven't even discovered.

When mushrooms finally gets to a place, it's going to be a big golden wave.

God was telling me that we still haven't really uncovered, you know, there's different trypenoids in these different mushrooms that when you put those in combination and what they make you feel.

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All right, guys, we got Jason Craig, aka J-Rock here today.

Thanks for having me, dude.

Yeah, I love the

cowboy hat and that suit, man.

Yeah, you know, it's just a lot of, it's part of the, part of the gear, man.

I just did a partnership with Travis Austin from Nashville, who I'm really excited to be working with him with Stitched.

You know, we'll get into that.

But,

you know, I had met this guy um and he had this dream of creating clothing and you know these custom hats and all these things and when i met him you know he was just working at a food place that i went to after the gym and was telling me about all these ideas and you know how he wanted to grow and you know eight years later man the guy's killing it you know he's got one of the most successful hat companies out of nashville and you know being celebrity clientele and so i'm like stoked to be working with him and it's like this thing has come full circle so it's really cool to see so the feather's part of the hat feather is part of the hat so he does full custom.

I mean, like, if you wanted it to be the digital hour hat, he could do that, you know.

I might have to look into that.

Yeah, yeah, I gotta, I gotta put you on because he can fully customize however you want it.

I mean, we've made hats for Drake, we've made hats for Dave Bautista, you know, like he can get super intricate with it.

So, it's really cool.

You've done so well at integrating yourself in the celebrity world.

I think just providing value is the main thing from what I noticed.

Yeah, dude, providing value.

You know what I mean?

I think as men, we

have to kind of provide value anyway as part of like in our DNA.

But, you know, through the companies and businesses that I've had, you know, with different sponsorship deals and other, you know, I've been able to build some great relationships and like you said, provide value.

Absolutely.

Are you boxing still right now?

I am.

I am.

I'm always, I'm always kind of boxing, always doing martial arts because for me, it's like part of my.

you know, what keeps me going, you know, my therapy.

I started as a kid, as a little kid, you know,

and have stuck to it.

It's one of those things like, you know, I want to to master it, you know, and it takes a long time to master something.

And, you know, I'm still trying to master it.

I'm still trying to get better every time I go in there.

And, you know, 30-something, 40 years later.

What's your record right now?

Yeah.

I've only had five fights.

I've only had five fights.

And it's one of those things where, you know, I just started getting so busy in my work on the work side and things started taking off for me that, you know, trying to get back to get into pro fights.

You know, I've looked at the opportunities.

You know, some of these,

you know, Jake Paul has done his thing and started doing those type fights and Nate Diaz and those guys.

So, you know, I've looked at just jumping in there honestly just for one pro match.

I just want it to be worth it.

Yeah.

But it's kind of like closing out some of that,

you know, the years of training and, you know, kind of getting into that.

So

did you see the Jake Paul fight the other day?

I didn't see it.

You know, I just saw some highlights.

You know,

it was a quick one.

You know, I think he's in the phase where he's building his record up a little bit, which, you know, he's getting criticized for that, but everybody does that in boxing.

Everybody does that.

Everybody does.

Everybody pads their record early on to get those wings and have that the zero on the record.

You know, to be a, to, to get, to, to get the fights you want.

You got to be undefeated these days, you know.

Um, so he's padding his record a little bit.

I don't, I don't blame him for that.

You know, he's, he's still trying to figure out the big, you know, name fights.

So what are you guys winning this Ryan Garcia fight?

um you know ryan garcia has been been acting weird lately

i'll say statement you know but i like ryan garcia uh in general um you know i'm pulling for him to win the fight uh you know all things he's said to this side i think he's just trying to sell it um but uh i'm pulling for him uh to win that fight i think it's a tough fight devin's no joke you know um but it's going to it's a fight i think he needs right now yeah you know

not lost right yeah he lost to

Tank.

Tank, yeah.

I'd love to see you win, and I'd love to see him

get into the UFC and fight Sean O'Malley as he's claiming to be.

That'd be dope.

You're a UFC fan, right?

Big UFC fan.

Yeah, early adopter, man, you know, because Vegas is the place UFC started, you know.

And so back in the day with boxing, you know, my boxing coach, Skipper Kelp,

he was my boxing coach at UNLV, along with Chris.

And I've been with him a long time.

And back then, Dana was still working at the sporting house, you know, and he was training the Fertidas and that's how that whole thing kind of happened

he was training them he was training I didn't know that yeah he was training them and you know kicked them this idea they loved the idea and man they they they executed you know and

yeah it's crazy and so I've always been kind of close to to to the UFC beginning you know training with a lot of the guys in the beginning like Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell like these early guys that you know became legends really and uh i i've gotten the opportunity

to train with a lot of these guys through the years here because

Vegas is really doing fight capital.

Absolutely.

I always go to the fights out here.

They're a fun time.

Yeah.

And now that you got the Raiders and you got fights on one day, and you got like a football game the next day, and there's some crazy party every night, right?

Absolutely.

There's nothing you can't do in Vegas.

Yeah.

It's got everything.

Any upcoming fighters that you think can make a run at that goat title right now?

You know, the Ilya, Illya,

he's he's looking real nice right now, and he's a young guy.

You know, he's still going to grow and become better.

And, you know, how he beat Volk, you know, you got to watch that guy.

Yeah.

I was very impressed with that one.

Me too, man.

Me too.

I mean, I thought that it was going to be a really tough fight for Volk, but I thought he might pull it out and utilize his

crazy cardio, but,

you know, proven wrong.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

You've always been training, though.

I saw you were in the Marines at 90.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I've always been training, you know,

honestly as a kid uh i had a lot of had a lot of had a tough time you know i had some traumas had a lot of things where you know i was determined to never let anybody hurt me again you know and so that's always been a driving force in my in my martial arts um you know obviously with the marine corps september 11th was what made me join the Marine Corps.

I hadn't really thought about joining before then.

And I wanted to join to help the country, you know,

whatever I could do, you know, politics aside, I always say, you know, I didn't understand politics back then either.

Right.

But, you know, I've always pushed myself physically, tried to do the hard stuff.

You know, I didn't always know,

you know, that doing the hard things would make me, you know, get me to the places that I wanted to get.

But, you know, I wasn't always the most talented in everything that I did, you know, but I did outwork people,

you know, and

the Marines.

Yeah.

And I would just stay consistent.

And again, it's one of those things.

If you don't, if it doesn't work you know you just keep going until you figure it out you know adapt and overcome that's kind of like the marine corps motto and for me i've always i've always stuck to that and again uh i like to fill the room with people smarter than me i don't have an ego like i want to fill the room with people smarter than me i want to be around people who have the same mindset you know and the same kind of work effort and we also get along right like i have a no douchebag rule in my companies but you know it doesn't matter how skilled somebody is you know if if you don't align with them, it's never going to work out.

You know, you can't do a good deal with a bad guy, you know.

I love that.

Yeah, you block out anyone that brings you negativity.

Anyone that brings me negativity, it's not for me.

And it's not that I have to, you know, physically remove them from my life.

I just keep those kind of people at a distance because like I don't have room for that right now.

Right.

You know, like my mind is bulletproof to the point of like, I'm not stopping and I will continue going, you know, until I get to the place I want to get.

And anybody who's not in that mindset or aligned with that for me is

a waste of my time.

And not in a, not in the sense of, you know, personally, like I still, I have a lot of friends, people that,

you know, I appreciate them for them, who they are.

But if you're doubting me or any of those things, I just almost ignore it and just keep going.

You know, yeah, I think there's a difference between doubt and then just like wanting to help someone.

Sometimes it comes across like they're hating.

Right.

So there's that fine line.

Right.

And there's a thing too, where like sometimes when, you know, you're, you're, you're driving forward and you're pushing, you know, um, people see that and they want to maybe be in that.

And maybe they're not doing the things that they need to be doing, you know, so they're, it's easy to, to pick at people who are, you know, at times.

So

I think it comes down to, you know, some people having those insecurities, you know, with wanting to do the things that they want to do.

And, um, you know,

they see other people doing it and, you know, it's not going to work.

That's not going to happen.

Yeah.

You know, and I love proving people wrong.

I love that.

Was your transition out of the Marines a quick process or did it take some time?

Definitely took some time.

You know, I put my head down and got right to work

and, you know, was successful in that lane because I just, I had the work ethic.

You know, I was always a hard worker and physically, it was hard for people to keep up with me.

But it was a hard transition and the aspect of acclimating back into normal life,

civilian world, you know, after being

in the Marine Corps, you know, and that does take time.

You know, there's certain things that you don't feel right away.

There's certain things you do feel right away, you know, nightmares and those kind of things are prevalent.

But, you know, again, adapt and overcome.

I've had things where it really took me, you know, 42 years, right, of my life to really figure out.

I'm still in a growth process where I'm trying to understand you know myself traumas how I've overcome those traumas how I've you know pushed forward and and also the next evolution of who I am when you came out did they put you on a bunch of medication they did yeah yeah so I mean I was having those you know depression and and anxiety and some of those issues and they put me on they put me on a lot of medications that you know for me I just I didn't like it I felt dead inside

that's the best way to describe it.

And I'm like, this can't be it.

You know, I was trying to see a therapist, that sort of thing,

and doing whatever I could on my own.

But the drugs just weren't for me.

I didn't like it.

And at some point, you know, I was with my doctor.

You know, he's like, I can't prescribe it to you, you know, at this time, but I've had a lot of success with Vietnam veterans with cannabis.

You know, and that's what really turned me on to cannabis.

And

honestly, in those times of real anxiety and stress, it just kind of took that edge off.

And it's been something that I believe in on the plant medicine side.

And I've delve in deeper into that side with, you know, cannabis mushrooms, that sort of thing, because there's alternatives out there to these drugs that are really, you know, that are really beneficial that we haven't really tapped into.

And, you know, maybe because that's big pharma runs, runs the land, you know,

that's a baby.

Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaking of mushrooms, though, photo on your Instagram, you with a giant mushroom in the cannabis area.

I'd love to hear the backstory on that photo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, as I said, you know, I've really dived into plant medicine side.

But, you know, I am looking, you know, I'm working on different opportunities within that world.

And me and Dan were looking at some of these opportunities together because it looks like we may do something like that in the future.

And yeah, these guys are, we went to the lab.

These guys are growing the mushrooms and you saw the one.

It's like, it's literally like the size of my body.

It's really crazy.

but there's so many interesting things in the mushroom world and there's so many different mushrooms out there that we haven't even discovered.

Yeah.

You know, so it's really interesting for me to be ahead of that lane because, you know, if we saw what happened to cannabis, you know, when mushrooms finally gets to a place, it's going to be a big golden wave.

Yeah.

It's already decrevalized in a few states, right?

Exactly.

Yeah.

And there's, there's different combinations, like I was telling you, that we still haven't really uncovered.

You know, there's different trypenoids in these different mushrooms that when you put those in combination and what they make you feel um so there's still a lot to to be discovered there and so i've you know really tried to tap into that lane heavily um to be ahead of it an inch by life yeah yeah do you microdose microdose i i've done full trips as well i did it in amsterdam when i was uh 18.

wow and it should rock my world yeah i think everybody should do it i think we could tap into parts of our brain that we're that whatever maybe it's all the external data that we're always dealing with every single day but i think it it helps us tap into places, helps us tap into spirituality.

You know, it's like, obviously, if you're taking it to go to a festival and enrage, then, you know, you have that.

But if you're, if you're, if, if you're in the, in nature and you're sitting there and you're meditating and you're utilizing it in that aspect, there's a lot of value there too.

So,

you know, it's, it's a big world and, and just trying to uncover it all and help people.

Absolutely.

Have you always been pretty spiritual?

Um, I, I, you know, as a kid, I was Catholic, you know, I was an altar boy, you know, I grew up like that.

And it took me a long time to come back to faith.

I mean, to be honest, you know, like even with God, like there was a period of time where I was away from God.

I just, you know, the things that I was seeing and the world as is and, you know, all my different, my own traumas and things that I was dealing with, you know,

I kind of like lost my faith.

Wow.

And I kind of lost my way, you know, and I did that for a long time.

And, you know, I realized that it was a big hole inside me.

And I was doing everything I could to figure it out.

And I went down, you know, every

universal path you can with shamans and, you know, different types of therapists, medians.

You know, I was really in search of the better, you know, figuring myself out.

So it took a lot of time, effort, and work on my side to get to that.

And as I turned the corner, I felt like

at one of the times that was like, it was like this pivotal moment that changed my life.

It's like I felt touched by God.

And

I felt that all these things that I've gone through in my life, all these traumas and everything that I've, you know, I question God on, as I look at it now, it has made me this full man, right?

I, you know, I'm, I'm empathetic.

I've been toughened up through, you know, understanding, you know, different pains and

different obstacles, building businesses, you know.

So it's made me the man that I needed to be.

And now with that change of outlook and the feeling that I have now, I've never been closer to God.

And I've never had, you know, my faith has never been stronger.

That's deep, man.

Similar story with me.

I was growing up pretty Christian, went to church and stuff.

And then teenage years, went atheist.

I thought that was the cool thing to do.

Right.

And yeah.

Now I definitely believe in something.

Right.

Like, because it's like, it's like we go through and, you know, as we grow up, we're going through these different phases of our life and understanding.

And then all of us are, you know, going through different experiences that take us in different paths, you know, and I think it, you know, the self-discovery of spirituality in everyone's life is important.

And whether that is, you know, whatever name you call God, or if it's your, you're, you know, you're just tapping into the universe and that power, you need to tap into something bigger than yourself because there is something out there bigger than us, you know, whether we'd like to admit it or not.

For sure.

I think we all have an energy, right?

Yes, definitely.

You can read people without talking though, just totally based off feeling.

Yeah.

You know, I've been a big energy guy for a long time.

You know, right after high school, I jumped into massage therapy, which a lot of people don't know about me, but I went through massage therapy school.

And like, when you have to put your hands on people, you take on energy and you can give them energy, you know, and when I would do my massages, I literally in my brain, it's kind of like when you're working out, like the mind-muscle connection, when you're working out, like isolating and thinking through that muscle part.

It's the same.

same kind of thing when you're doing these massages where I'm trying to put in good energy.

I'm trying to like work things out out specifically.

And I just learned a lot about how you can take on energy, how you can, how you can give energy.

You know, I'm sure, you know, with a girlfriend or something, when they're mad, all of a sudden you're in a bad mood, you know, right?

Like there's these things that happen from an energy perspective and like really understanding it, you know, and like all my buddies back then, you know, they're too tough to understand energy or care about energy, right?

That's not real, but it is real, you know, and I think we've all felt it.

We've all felt those moments, right um and there's something more than what we understand 100 you are what you surround yourself with yeah yeah five closest people you're the sum of the it's so true it's so true i know it's cliche at this point but i i look back at my life when i was smoking weed every day and a loser and broke and i looked at who i surrounded myself with and it was those type of people it's 100 you know and it's like as you grow if those people aren't growing with you then you outgrow them yeah you know or you have to or otherwise they're going to drag you back into what they're doing you know and then they take it some type of way but it's really just you're on a different path yeah nothing personal is trying to better myself man i'm trying to better myself like you know nobody else is uh is paying for my parents bills like you guys aren't so like i need to i need to do what's best for me and my family you know so i mean i think that's a a turning point in most people's lives where it's like okay like i'm either going to stay in this mode in my life or i'm going to get up and i'm going to change it i'm going to do something about it absolutely you know

i love seeing people changing their life and doing something about it i always cheer that on because we've all had our

problems, our issues, our things, our setbacks, our wins even.

But, you know, just keep going.

I think people get comfortable and they're scared to leave a friend group or even family sometimes.

And they just, the comfort is not how you grow up.

No, it's the same.

And it's the same in business.

You know, people get comfortable in certain positions, making a certain amount of money.

They got their insurance.

Everything's great.

But they're not really happy in what they're doing.

But they're like,

you know, I just got to keep going like this.

But then, you know, 10 years later, they're like, man, you know, I really wish I would have taken my time to go and write that book, you know, or start that podcast or whatever it was that they, they wanted to do.

And regret is, is a real thing as well.

Real.

It's very real.

I try not to have any.

My goal when I die is not to have any.

Yeah, me too, man.

I want to live a life that I'm proud of, you know, that I can look back and say, like, I did that.

I tried it.

You know what?

It didn't work, you know, but at least I tried it and it wasn't for me because we don't know until until we try things.

Exactly.

Yeah, I try not to have any resentment.

Even people that did me wrong, I just don't try to stop inside your body.

It's poison.

It's a poison pill that's inside you, you know, and same, same kind of thing.

Like I've forgiven, you know, all these different traumas and people who cause those traumas,

you know, people in my life and bad business deals.

You know, I mean, there's been a lot of those where I've lost a lot of money because of XYZ.

But when I look back on it now, those were learning, those were learning curves for me and

opportunities for me to grow.

But also at the same time, letting those people go and making sure they're not in my life.

Yeah, absolutely.

And business and friendship is a tricky thing, too.

Very tricky.

You know,

I've done business with friends and it can be hard.

It can be beneficial at the same time, depending on what it is, but it is a tricky scenario.

It's like a marriage.

Yeah, you're risking your friendship.

Yeah, pretty much.

You know, I'm with them more than I'm with my girl

or with my family, right?

Like it's, it's a real marriage.

So, you know, those don't always, if, and like we were talking about in the beginning, it's like, if you guys aren't aligned, um, it's going to be tough to go the distance with.

That's key.

If that's where I messed up in the past, because my expectations for myself are so high, and I would just assume everyone else had expectations as me and we weren't aligned.

And it's harder.

You end up doing, you actually end up doing more work because

you can't trust the other people to do get things done in the way in which you would like them done, right?

So it's almost like it creates more work.

So that extra time, I guess I say it's like slow to hire, quick to fire, right?

So

taking that time to really align with the people that you're going to be working with.

I mean, essentially, your guys are going to battle.

Who do you want to fox full with you?

Yeah.

You know?

And so.

If you see that problem and it's not what you thought it was going to be,

I've sat in situations before where I was like, well, there's nobody else that's that great right now and gone through those things.

But, you know, that's changed my mindset a lot.

And

I've gotten a lot quicker to correct those problems yeah you're crushing it with stitch i'd love to dive into that company was it successful from the start or did it take some time it took some time i mean we um we definitely uh hit the ground running you know i was like when i started with stitch i was the the the brand ambassador you know um amon the founder of the company uh good friend of mine and you know brought me into the company, you know, because I had the relationships with, you know, celebrities, you know, all the nightlife groups, you know, a lot of hotel executives and that sort of thing.

And we really kind of

wanted to own the Vegas market.

And

that's been the thing for the last 11 years and then branching out.

So really having those

hotel and different industries here in Vegas from real estate to anybody who's wearing suits on a daily, but also just is looking to get flashed up.

We have our tourist market

and we've done really well.

know, in 2020, we took a hit, you know, just like everybody else, COVID.

But we had had a location in Miami, in Brickle.

We had a location in DC in MGM's Nashville Grand Harbor there.

And we had to close both those stores.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was, it was tough.

And luckily, you know, Bill Macbeth, who was the president at the Cosmopolitan at the time, was super cool.

I mean, the way they handled it,

you know, kept us alive, honestly.

And so we took the stuff we had from Miami and DC.

Once we reopened,

it was gangbusters.

You know, we started, we've had our best couple years, honestly.

Yeah.

Weather Cosmo, man.

Whenever I'm at the, you guys are in our, which hotel was it?

Cosmo Falls.

Cosmo.

Yeah.

Whenever I'm there, it's that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cosmo and Cosmo is great.

You know, we're lucky to be in there.

They, they've done a great job over the years, just, you know, keeping the property updated, you know, beautiful.

And it's got its own.

um i i've always loved the marketing campaigns you know it's got the the right amount of wrong you know so they've done a good job there and so what we did with the miami so we had all the stuff we had all the inventory we had all the ff e from two stores and so uh tivoli village here in summerland um they had an open space and it was like hey you guys want to pop up for a month and we were like yeah let's do it i mean we had a whole store we put it in there it looks it looks it's it's legit it's like a full store and they're like man you guys are doing well we want to just keep you here you want to stay yep let's do it wow we still got the other store we have another store now in tivoli and then we also have a private store that we only do private shopping in we call it unstitched um anything that we put out is cooked you know like it's only there for the season so if it's not purchased during that season it goes back into the warehouse which we call unstitched and we do private shopping there so people can go and get brand new stuff for 50% off or or even more

sometimes.

So we have that kind of as like a little tool in our toolboat.

Yeah, stop by, dude.

That's fun.

Let's do it.

I love it.

Yeah.

So you started 19 Betty's in Vegas before this.

Yeah.

Well,

Stitch team before

those, you know, and I didn't partner in the Stitch until a little later on.

And like I said, I was brand ambassador for quite some time.

But the other businesses, I was working at the same time.

You know, I was in nightlife.

I was working at the Palms, you know, and I like to say back when we were winning championships,

you know, did a lot of cool stuff there, reality shows, VMA awards.

I mean, kind of like the really like built built my career there.

And then I went on, started my own company, and then I ended up partnering with Andy Massey.

Well, Andy Massey at the time owned the Light Group, which was the largest nightlife company in the world.

I learned a lot from Andy.

You know, Andy's a very old school guy.

You know,

it's a his way or the highway type of a scenario.

So, you know, you got to move fast there and, you know, keep up.

So I learned a lot through that process,

you know, during 2020 as well, decimated the food and beverage

community, all of us, right?

All the restaurants were closed.

All our restaurants were closed.

You know, financially, it was,

you know, probably one of the worst times of my life, spiritually, one of the best times of my life because I was really tapping in during that time to nature.

But,

you know, after that, started a new company.

You know, I ended up doing like a structured payout from Click Hospitality, which was all those venues that I was running for 10 years, you know, back and forth between San Diego, multiple properties here.

But, you know, at some point as well, like the 2020 thing, you know, was like a really eye-opener for me to do and follow the path that I want that's in my heart.

And at that time,

there was, there was trouble with one of my other partners, and it was just time to do my own thing.

And so started my own company called ITM in the moment.

And, you know, we've really taken off,

you know, diversified projects.

You know, like I was telling you, Weed Maps is a part of that.

So on the cannabis side, you know, this mushroom, this new mushroom company that we're working on, you know, we have food and beverage projects.

We put money into a hotel here in Mount Charleston up in the mountains.

You know, so still have a couple of food and beverage things, you know, looking at expanding stitched.

You know, right now we are really honed in on Nashville and doing a project there in the Nashville Yards with like a speakeasy, rock bar, something like that.

So we're going down the line on that so i'm really kind of gearing myself towards projects that i really want to be in or something that has giant windfalls right so i'm trying to diversify myself into short term long term so you know i'm playing chess you know i'm able to move pieces around the board because as as you know as an entrepreneur sometimes things don't always work out yeah you know so i'm moving pieces that align with with one another the businesses support each other in certain senses um and i'm i'm playing the long game playing the short game and uh you know every every day at it i love it because you were all in on hospitality so when that went to zero those covet years it must have been a shock for you similar to me i was all in in crypto when it cracked man that was a rough time yeah man it was tough coming back from that you know um and you know i did jump into some food and beverage products because you know food and beverage like after covid it was hot you know for two years it just was blazing off everybody was trying to get out again you know so it's also understanding what's going on in the world and being prepared you know um we've looked at a lot of development projects, low-income housing, right?

Because as we're all seeing in the housing market,

it could be tough to afford houses, you know, with BlackRock buying up all the inventory and, you know, all this kind of stuff.

You know, we've looked at these different solutions, right?

Like, how can I be ahead of, you know, obviously.

We're in election year.

Last time, you know, we got shut down two years.

You know, what happens this time?

I'm not sure, but let's just be prepared for it and to win one way or another, to protect ourselves one way or another.

You know, so we've just been going through a lot of those strategies and have have our mindset on it and just moving.

I love it.

You backed RFK publicly, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I really appreciate RFK.

I've had a chance to meet with him a few times.

I am trying to get him

to support our veteran ride that we have coming up, Armed Forces Day.

I do a event.

It's Randy Coutour's event.

And he's been doing it for 17 years.

It's one of the biggest veteran fundraisers in the state.

We brought 500 motorcycles and there's four different stops.

And so really trying to get RFK to come and, you know, just speak to the veterans.

Hopefully he will do that.

Maybe he'll see this.

And,

you know, but I got a soft confirmation.

And

also, you know,

as we're seeing, you know, political

prosecution and other in our world right now, you know, not letting this guy on our ballot,

you know, didn't sit right with me.

Not

having Secret Service protection doesn't sit right with me, especially looking at his family history.

These things are

pretty crazy to me.

And

he deserves that chance

to stand tall.

And whether he wins or loses, he deserves a shot to be on our ballot here in Nevada.

Absolutely.

Is he not allowed in Nevada right now?

No.

He has to get 10,000 signatures just to be on the ballot.

And they're going to stop him.

And that's in multiple states where he's not, you know,

he has has to push just to get on the ballot.

Wow.

You know, and he's leading in a lot of categories, you know?

So

it to me, again, is taking another political opponent and, you know,

stopping them from going forward.

You know, he's an independent, but and neither side like that.

But

maybe it takes an independent to come in and shake things up.

You know, I don't know.

I didn't know that you needed $10,000.

Is that every candidate or just him?

I think it's because he's independent.

You You know, I don't want to, I don't, I'm not like a political analyst here, but I believe

he's independent and the Republican and Democratic sides are both like, no, we don't want it.

We don't want this.

So I know it's like that in a few states for him.

Nevada is one of those.

You know, he's been out here a few times, you know, doing some rallies, just trying to talk to people.

Yeah, I want to see the debate.

I wonder if the lover set that up.

I would love to see it too.

You know, I mean, I think at this point, we're not seeing any debates between Trump, Biden, and RFK, which is crazy to me.

Like,

this is how we do it, guys.

Like, what's changed now?

Right.

And I would love to see it as well.

I mean, those debates, you know, tell a lot of story.

And

that's why Trump wanted to succeed in the debates.

Yeah.

Because Hillary.

Yeah.

And I feel like maybe they're stopping those because they think it's negative to some of the candidates.

I don't know.

But this is the democratic process.

You know, let's get out there and let the people hear you.

Absolutely.

I'd love to see Trump and RFK like head to head.

Me too.

too.

Because I think they agree on a lot of stuff.

They definitely agree on a lot of stuff.

And I do think that's a very interesting debate.

You're right.

Like it's a very interesting debate between those two.

And I would love to see it too, man.

I just, I want to see the best candidate who wants to help this country, you know, and obviously Trump has gone through everything he's going through.

You know, I'm not

happy with being in the wars we're in right now.

I'm not happy with the immigration policies.

There's a lot of things right now that need fixing.

There's a lot of money going out, right?

We're looking at inflation.

So there is something that needs to be fixed here in our country and needs to be fixed right away.

So it is definitely something I pay attention to.

I try not to let myself get too emotionally involved.

That's what they want.

That's what they want.

They want us to get emotionally involved for sure.

Yeah.

But I got to keep my focus on what's right in front of me, what I can control, but also understand what's going on.

So, you know, again, it does affect real estate markets.

It does affect different things.

So being prepared for those as well.

That makes sense.

When you served, which country did you

get sent off to?

I was in Iraq.

How did you feel about that war afterwards?

It's tough when you see the stuff afterwards.

You know, I mean, weapons of mass destruction, we didn't find any of those.

You know, when once I started understanding the political spectrum a bit more,

there was definitely

there was definitely things about it that I see, that I've read, that I understand that don't make me feel great you know um but i can tell you at the same time that i know for for me i went in there with the right mind and the right heart to help our country you know um all politics aside you know i wanted to help and i was willing to give my life to do so um

and you know when you see these different political things now and you understand them um

you know they definitely can can can uh can mess with your psyche a little bit, but I haven't let it mess with mine because I've taken, you know, different things from the the marine corps good and bad and used them for my advantage i love that mindset because you came in with the right intentions you had no idea what was going on behind the scenes no and now when you dive into it even almost every other war comes out a bunny right yeah who's making money it's who's making money you know and my dad for years would would talk about you know the the politics you know really heavily and um i just I didn't understand all of it, you know, and then some of the stuff that he would talk about, I was like, yeah, that's not real.

You know, it's like, and then you see these crazy movies where it's like CIA is like selling drugs and like, and you realize that there's a, there's a deeper gain out there in our political world, a deeper gain in the government and their dealings overseas and other, you know, so

understanding those things, you know, now it just makes me think about where, why are we in these places we're in now?

You know, how do we stop,

you know, continuing, continuing 20-year wars.

You know, and those things do worry me.

You know, I don't want us to be in another, you know, 20-year conflict.

We just got out of one.

Yeah.

You know, and what did we gain from that?

You know, Afghanistan is now overrun by a Taliban.

We pulled out of there, left $3 billion worth of equipment.

You know, what did we do there?

You know, and how many guys have come back home and, you know, have had a hard time.

You know, how many veterans have killed themselves?

You know, how many families has I affected?

And I don't want that to continue, especially when we're looking at we got a lot of problems here in our country that need to be fixed you know before we're we're going and you know helping everyone and I do believe you know we do need to help and we need to be that bright that bright light but we also

you know there's there's money there's money that's made from the industrial war complex there's a lot of things that happen in that that aren't right either you know so

I just want to see something.

I want to see our country going in the right direction again.

Agreed.

I love that.

I think this election is crucial.

I think it's really crucial.

Yeah, I agree.

See what happens.

Well, Jason, thanks for coming out, man.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

No, man.

Thank you for

having me.

I'm just looking forward to the future, man, and appreciate you hitting me in here and chatting.

Well, thanks, man.

Thanks for coming.

Thanks for watching.

As always, see you next time.