The NEW Body Count Reset Surgery: Is It Real? | Yannis Pappas DSH #560

It's cool again.

Yeah, yeah.

People go into the clubs right now looking like Mormons.

Yeah, full suits.

You know, they talk to their parents.

Weird.

There's a lot of new stuff.

I just learned there's a new surgery on your vagina.

So you can actually reset your body count now.

You can reset your body count by squeezing up the batch.

Yeah, stem cells.

It tightens it up so you're no longer loose.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

How did they do that?

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All right, guys, we got Giannis Papas here today.

He's in town.

It's good to be here.

Good to be in Vegas.

I'm glad we finally made this work, man.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

You come out here a lot?

I don't.

Otherwise,

I would have been off.

You're so tall.

I just put my feet.

Oh, that's not your feet.

That's the pole.

That was my shoe.

Yeah, what are you, 6'5?

6'6 ⁇ , man.

With the card.

I've got a drink of water, dude.

You're talking.

You played some hoops back in the day.

I did play some hoops, too.

Yeah.

I love it.

Yeah.

People always say that, too.

They say that I'm taller than they think.

I must have a small presence.

Just on your podcast, I just, I don't know.

Yeah.

Because of your face, you think?

Probably with big mouth.

Because people with a big mouth usually are shorter.

Right.

So I'm always yapping.

And people make he must be a small guy.

But yeah, I'm a six-footer.

Dude, that's true because people don't really yap when they're 6'8.

Nah, they're just quiet and then they just, you know, they'll beat you up if you talk.

Yeah.

They just, you walk around with a confidence because you're just looking down at the world.

absolutely yeah it's good to be 6'6 yeah you won't live as long though you don't see a lot of old six six six people they've done studies on this i was really upset when i looked at the study yeah because every inch past 5'10 as a guy you lose on average a year oh no so i've lost eight years so i'm gonna stop wearing these air max because i'm 5'11 and three quarters so i'm gonna stop wearing these air max because the air max made me 6'1.

Yeah.

So you lost a couple years, but.

Yeah.

I'm gonna gain them back by going flat.

So I'm gonna wear sandals from now on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm gonna go barefoot.

People are walking around barefoot right now.

They do.

Yeah, because they're on fentanyl and they're in the street.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I do it for grounding, but yeah, there's people on the street doing this.

You need to hear a spiritual guy.

I am.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Recently.

Yeah.

What have you?

Is it just stress for business?

We're doing 800 podcasts a day.

Yeah.

We did 600 in a year.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'd say it's a mixture of everything you just said.

Yeah.

You and Rogan are doing a lot of podcasts.

Well, he does a lot and they're long.

Yeah.

I don't know how he, Cat Williams just came on.

It was three hours.

Dude, first time I met him, I'm like, we're best friends now, right?

Because I've never spoken to someone that intimately for that long.

It's like the first one was four hours, and I'm like, are we married now?

Because it just, yeah, it's a long time.

Yeah, was that the first day you met him?

That was the first day I met him.

Well, no, yeah, the first day I met him was that.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

You could have a four-hour conversation the first day you meet him.

It's not easy.

It's, you know, you're in there, and um, at one point, I got like a little lightheaded and I was like, am I going to drop?

I mean, it's almost like an end.

I think he's like, he pushes it further.

Like, he wants to do, like, he's testing.

He's seeing how long he he can talk for.

Were you smoking?

I wasn't smoking, but it was in his old studio that kind of looked like a.

It was ironic because when he first moved from California to Austin, his California studio looked really Texas.

Yeah.

And then his Austin studio, that first one, looked like a gay nightclub or something.

He got some heat for that.

It looked like a sushi restaurant or something.

He probably had to change it, right?

He did change it.

He went back and it looks more Texas now.

It's wood up.

You know, everything smells like barbecue.

But that first one had no like ventilation.

It was like a tube.

You felt like you were in like an alien graft.

So there was zero ventilation in there.

We were smoking cigars.

So at one point, I was just like, I almost felt like I had a similar experience when I was an altar boy in the Greek Orthodox Church and they'd do that incense everywhere and altar boys would pass out like during the church because there's just no ventilation.

So at one point, I was like getting wheezy and I had just met him and I was like, do I tell him?

Do I say, hey, man, we need to stop.

But I just muscled through it.

Wow.

Yeah, those cigar lounges, man, I'd be walking out of there literally hanging on the walls.

Yeah, there's no oxygen.

Getting busy, man.

Greek church what goes down there no no i don't we don't there's not a lot of banging of kids okay that's good catholics have a monopoly on that yeah they they're really the amazon of that they've really taken over um priests priests can marry which i think is important okay so there's not a lot of like sexual scandals but there's you know you you know your regular run-of-the-mill money scandals priest stealing stuff but it's an old you know christian religion i mean i'm not like practicing i don't go a lot but i was an altar boy when i was little my parents parents cried.

But now, now, Christianity is getting hot.

It is.

It's getting hot right now.

I think your generation, what are you, Gen Z?

I don't even know.

I'm 27, whatever that is.

Yeah.

It's getting hot again.

Dude, yeah.

I mean, the Super Bowl, it was like, Jesus was like the put a lot of money up for commercials.

I mean, there's like 10 Jesus commercials.

You're not wrong, man.

Yeah.

It's getting hot.

It's getting cool right now.

Yeah, it wasn't cool in high school.

I was atheist.

Yeah, no, you got to go full-blown, born-again, Christian conservative.

That's what's at the clubs right now.

Yeah, people are resetting their body body counts because they're just going Christian.

They're going, dude, I'm a virgin.

Yeah.

It's cool again.

Yeah.

People go into clubs right now looking like Mormons, full, full suits.

You know, they talk to their parents.

It's weird.

There's a lot of new stuff.

I just learned there's a new surgery on your vagina.

So you can actually reset your body count now.

You can reset your body count by squeezing up the batch.

Yeah, stem cells.

It tightens it up so you're no longer loose.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

How did they do that?

Just some stem cells.

You could get in your dick, too.

Yeah.

Could you just, if you're a girl and you had a high body count, can you just do like a hundred Chinese guys in a row and that'll tighten it back up?

Ooh, Chinese guys?

Yeah.

They do say they're smaller, right?

I mean, the population.

I'm half Chinese.

Oh, so are you big?

What's the other half?

Irish.

Irish kids.

Something.

Well, they think it offsetted it.

They're up above average because they've done studies on penis length.

Yeah.

I think the average is 5.1 in America.

Yeah.

I will say up above that.

Yeah.

So I think it offsetted the Asian.

Okay, that's good.

Is that your mom or your dad?

My dad is our.

Nice.

Yeah.

He was 6'5 ⁇ .

We went to Ireland though.

I would not recommend it.

Yeah, because you, why not?

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Yeah, that's why those people like to drink.

They just drink all the...

They just drink, but I heard it's a beautiful place.

It is beautiful if it's not raining, but it's raining all day.

Yeah, that's tough.

And it's like Seattle and Portland.

I'm just not a fan of it.

I think the worst place I've been is Tacoma.

Wow.

Yeah, I hated Tacoma.

Yeah, that's the home of

what's his name?

The serial killer.

Serial Ted Builder.

I'm going to make it with Ted Bundy.

I went and saw his house.

So that makes sense now.

It kind of makes sense.

Yeah.

Like, who else has come out of Tacoma?

It's really just, he's like the all-star from there.

There's no other big names coming out of Tacoma.

The architecture looks like

Russian.

It's like Eastern European, boxy.

It's rainy.

Yeah, you just, you want to, the, the weather is like nuclear fallout.

It's just coated

with clouds.

It's brutal.

If you're inside all there, you're going to go crazy.

You saw it with COVID.

That's why people are like, there, you'll see like a 60, 70-year-old woman with like purple hair.

And I think they do that just to brighten up.

their existence.

Like so they can look at each other and see some bright colors because otherwise it's just, yeah, chemically, I think it messes with you.

Sure.

What's your first reaction when you see someone with dyed hair like that?

I say they're definitely against the war in Israel.

I say they're the part-time protesting.

Yeah.

And that there's a good chance they're from the Pacific Northwest.

Yeah.

It's hard to take people serious.

I don't know what it is about it.

It's just like, dude, you dyed your hair pink.

Like, what are we going to talk about?

You know what I mean?

Oh, they got a lot to talk about.

You definitely, look, there's an old expression.

You can't judge a book by its cover, but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut.

So if you see pink hair, someone's about to give you an earful about

or whatever, the banks, or you just, you're going to get an earful about something.

So I stayed out of that war because I feel like no matter what side you publicly supported, you're going to get shit on.

Yeah, and there's nothing you can do.

I mean, this guy, there's a guy who keeps DMing me, and I'm an idiot.

Like I open my DMs.

I really shouldn't.

I keep opening this DM from this guy.

And he just keeps sending me like pictures and stories about like what's going on in Palestine.

And I'm like, and he's like, your country's the KKK, all this.

I'm like, God, what do you mean to do about it?

What are you, why?

You're obviously not well if you're invested emotionally in something like this that is beyond our what do you want me you want me to call benjamin netanyahu and tell him to chill you want me to call celebrities and be like make another stop it video i mean it doesn't i mean it's like that's the funny thing about those stop it videos in hollywood like you get like six actors together and they're like stop and you're like all right that's gonna do

that really did it mark ruffalo put out a video so israel's gonna change its um its military tactics.

I mean, it's like, what do you want us to do?

You know, I just go on podcasts, I tell jokes, and I'm trying to live lit.

I just want to be lit.

Let me be lit.

You're pretty open to what you talk about, though.

I will say that.

I am.

You cover everything.

People, yeah.

My podcast, The Honest Papa's Hour.

I try to make fun of everybody.

I try to, you know, and that's a, that's not a great thing in this climate.

I think people want you to go hard on one side or the other so they can kind of rah-rah you, but I just, uh, I just get too much pleasure in in ripping everybody apart and having fun no matter what their political affiliation i like that though because a lot of people in your spot are too scared to pick a side and they're like robots like i saw the rock on uh joe rogan yeah he had no emotion i mean he was so scared of getting canceled that the whole interview

Yeah, well, he's got, I mean, I would, I can understand it.

He's got so many sponsors.

He's the rock.

He does movies.

He's like a politician.

At this point, yeah.

Yeah, there's like eight-year-olds that love him.

There's six-year-olds that love him.

I mean, mean, if there's a six-year-old tuning into my show, then their parents are like dead in the living room fed and all.

They're just not watching the kid.

It's an irresponsible thing.

So I understand, like, but that's got to really weigh on you when you can't say anything that's ever on your mind and you constantly got to check, you know,

with your PR team.

I mean, I've had sports shows in the past.

Athletes are, they can't say anything.

Right.

So like, I don't even know why they try.

Sports comedy could be like a very big, barstool does it great you know they do it the best but they don't really you never really see them messing with athletes until the athletes are like retired

because when the athletes are playing for the you know dana and the ufc is different those guys just they'll go up there and yell fag

just like dang free speech um but other leagues are just way i mean baseball basketball you can't say i agree because i've had on a couple nba guys and they i literally see them thinking about what they can and can't say when i asked questions yeah they're like oh Adidas.

They just see Dolly.

They're like, all right, I can't say that because Adidas can't say that because of Subway.

They just have so many sponsors.

So I get it.

It's not a fun way to be a comedian for sure because our job is to say the most irresponsible things.

I actually think comedy is a great litmus test.

for where the country's at.

Because if the comedy scene is very healthy, which it is right now because of the internet, which is great, I think it means that freedom is in a good place because I think it's really the sole indicator that your society is free is like comedians saying whatever.

I mean, I think that's the job of comedy is like to say irresponsible things, to keep everyone in check, to make sure that you're allowed to say anything.

That is a good gauge.

Yeah, it's a good gait.

It really is.

There were peers during your career where you couldn't say whatever you wanted, right?

That's the thing.

It was like,

you know, I think that era has come to an end, like that cancel culture era has come to an end because people just got tired of it they kind of saw through it like oh this guy said something all right there's a million people that said thing they tried to cancel too many people um but that era to be honest with you was really only online and my analysis of it was it it's people making content

for themselves.

So cancel content is content.

You're a content creator.

Everyone's making content.

So if you're taking someone down, that's your content.

You're doing it for the same reasons we're all doing it right it's ironic to get viewers to make some noise to to uh

you know uh build your brand to self-aggrandize so you know there's people out there who are content creators canceling people dude i see it on my youtube every day they go after the comedians on youtube now yeah they want to be heard everybody wants to be heard and but you know live you don't feel it at all and so that's how i knew it wasn't really like a real thing because like you go do a live show you say anything nobody cares.

It's like everyone understands that the intent of what you're doing is to try to make people laugh.

So, like, if you, I mean, nobody, who was funny in class when they were saying the right thing?

That's not funny.

Saying the right, like, you shouldn't be racist.

It's not, it's not funny, but it's saying you should be racist, and here's why, with a certain intonation and a certain cadence, and in a certain context, and be funny, right?

You know, so

they were really, that era was trying to define comedy out of existence yeah um when you know and it didn't work didn't work they know it didn't work and it didn't work i mean look at shane i mean shane gill is now oh yeah bigger than ever he just he got canceled right and then he came back in a big way i mean it was like you know front page news on on all the major mainstream media outside what he even do he said some word he said yeah on a you know when you he was on a podcast well it was probably one of a million things he said but on it was um he was talking about Chinatown back in the day and how, like, a real estate person would talk back then.

And he said, he said the word,

what this podcast, I can say it right.

You know, you're Chinese.

Okay.

Yeah, he said Ching.

Okay.

Right.

But he was saying it through the voice of the character of someone back in the day.

But they just clipped out Ching.

And then there was a Chinese guy that just got hired, Boen Yang on SNL.

So he was like, I don't feel comfortable.

I don't feel safe.

So it just got all this attention.

That's the problem with the clips because they could clip out anything from any show.

When you take comedy out of its context, it dies.

It's like trying to take a fish out of water.

You know, it's like going to die.

I mean, the words that are said only

can only be understood in the context of the comedy club,

comedian's intent, a comedian's clip.

So when you just take it out, it just looks like a speech.

You know, if you type it down, it's not in the context of comic man.

Now, it's in the context of your article and your intention.

And your intention is to take these words and say, hey, these words are bad in this other context.

I'm going to make them be this context when they weren't.

The context was comedic.

Yeah, plus there's words 10, 20 years ago that you said on your shows that are looked down on now.

Yeah.

Like the R word, F word, whatever.

Yeah.

And that's just a stupid thing now because now people, you know, I have a special needs brother, and even I'm saying special needs, but now people take special needs and they use it as a pejorative.

So it's, it'll, and now it's funny funny because, like, person of color is now back, but person of color was bad like 10 years ago.

You're like, don't call me color, person of color, not a person.

And now you're like, now that's what you want to say.

So it's like, it's just words.

I mean, it's really,

it's really the intent of the word that people and the context of the word that people should pay attention.

I mean, we're not children.

We're adults.

I mean, people from marginalized groups know when someone's racist and they know when someone's not.

And it's not just the word.

It's like, you can tell.

They try to hit Trump with the racist card for a while.

Yeah, I mean, you know, they clip him out of context a lot.

You know, when you look at the full context of like that border speech about Mexicans are rapists and murderers, you take the whole clip, you're like, he didn't really say that.

They take him out of context a lot, even with NATO.

They take him out of context with Russia.

And then if you go research, like, you know, people are like, oh, he's in bed with Russia.

And then you go research like all the sanctions.

He sanctioned Russia more than Obama.

I mean, I think like 52 actions against Russia.

He was hard on Russia.

So when Putin says he prefers Biden, he may meet it.

And you can actually even look at it as

a positive strategy with Putin, right?

To like talk friendly, like the rhetoric is kind of not friendly, but like

semi-friendly, semi-obsequious, like, hey, I respect him for this or whatever he says.

But then, you know, he talks softly but carries a big stick because you look at the actual policies and the facts, the objective reality of what his actions were as president, he was hard on Russia.

Like I said, he was hard on.

That's a fact.

I mean, just by his policy actions, he was hard on Russia.

So it's like, does that old expression?

I think it was Harry Truman, like talk softly or

Teddy Roosevelt talks softly, carry a big stick.

So, I mean, maybe in some ways you could argue that that's more effective than just the rhetoric, the constant rhetoric of Russia's bad.

It's like, you know, you're dealing with someone who on the other side,

our adversary, Putin, who's, you know, he's a former KGB officer.

He's slick.

He loves using subterfuge and intelligence and, you know, fake articles and all that stuff.

So maybe being a little tricky with him back is the way to go, you know?

So

it's interesting.

Yeah, they painted a picture of Trump

as very pro-Russia.

And I know there was a couple of people in his campaign that were a little irresponsible with talking to them and stuff.

But

he himself,

his actions speak for themselves.

They don't make the front line.

They don't make

those front headlines.

They don't.

When you do good things, they'll never put that on from there.

No, it's salacious.

It doesn't get as many views.

No, it's a salacious world we live in now.

I think when the media...

When the internet happened and the media didn't like fully adapt, they were a little behind it

and they started giving articles away for free.

That was sort of the beginning of the end of

trusting the media because they, out of necessity, became salacious because they became content creators themselves trying to chase views.

And so their headlines became increasingly editorialized because it just, it gets you to click more.

And they're dependent on ads where they used to be dependent on subscriptions.

So now it's just like, you got to click.

So they're like, Trump's a rate.

And you're like, I got to click on that.

You know, is that why they started charging again?

I saw some of them.

They're trying.

Yeah, they're trying.

But I mean, every time I go to

an outlet, you know, my podcast is, you know, I review the news every week and have fun.

And I go to an article and it says click here to subscribe.

I just click off and go to another article that's free.

Yeah, I just go somewhere that's free and read it.

So if they would have started with subscription when the internet's like, maybe people would have got used to that.

But now people got used to free articles.

So it's like, it's like trying to make your podcast subscription only.

Like people are just going to go, oh, I'm going to go watch the free one.

It's, it's,

yeah, they just didn't adapt well.

Which outlets do you trust right now?

It's hard to say, man.

Yeah, it's hard.

Ground news is great.

And I use Ground News, and they always love when I give them a shout out.

They should pay me.

Yeah.

But Ground News, they're an independent company, and they're great because they rate the articles based on their

what they deem to be their sway.

So if they feel like it's more right,

they'll tell you it's more right.

This one's more left.

If one's center, they'll deem it center.

So you go in reading it knowing that this outlet has this type of bent.

You know, they they lean left, lean right, fully right.

And they have red bars and blue bars.

And so if one's fully right, it's like the red bars.

Yeah, yeah.

If it's fully blue, it's like that.

So damn.

I like that.

I like that.

I like that.

I stopped listening to the news, reading the news.

I think there's a lot of people who are disillusioned with the news, you know?

It's um, yeah, I think they get caught a lot in things that aren't true, you know?

It's just so negative.

It literally puts you in a bad mood.

It puts you in a bad mood.

And I think it's the car crash effect.

You know, it's

why is there traffic a lot of times?

It's because someone's pulled over on the side of the road and people will need to see it.

Like there's something in our brain, something evolutionary that's in our brain that makes us pay attention to the negative more than the positive.

You know, it's just, it's so much easier to have a negative thought than a positive one.

And it maybe it probably has something to do with like not wanting to be ostracized from the tribe.

You know, we've only been, you know,

the Industrial Revolution was like, what, 150, not even 200 years ago.

Before that, we were, you know, we were really dependent on what other people thought about us and if they approved of us.

So there's something in our brain that makes us just look at car crashes.

So the news just becomes a car crash for clicks.

And so it's it's always negative and and you know there's that loophole in our brain where we just look at it it's fascinating yeah survival instinct almost right it's almost like a survival instinct yeah yeah that's a good way to put it and so the news kind of plays on that and i don't know if they do it consciously i know i worked i had a show on an old network called fusion which was um It was an interesting thing to look back on because it was owned by ABC News, which was owned by Disney.

So essentially Disney owned it.

And it was owned by Univision.

It was a joint venture with Univision and Disney.

And they built this massive studio in Miami, $100 million.

It's in Doral.

And they spent tons of money on trying to create a new network for millennials, for younger people.

And it didn't work.

It died so fast.

And this was 2013.

And it died because the switch had already happened.

You know, people had phones.

just as much power, if not more, than people with all this money behind them and production and everything.

And it just died.

But when I was working there, it was a whole bunch of old school ABC News producers working there.

I remember one of the mission statements for our show is like, I remember, and I always remembered this: one of the producers was like, let's pick a fight, like pick a fight.

And I was like, oh, that's how this works.

Like, pick a fight because that's it.

People love drama.

And so, you know, everyone is aware of how to get a bigger audience.

And a lot of times

it's not towered.

It can be very manipulative and

play, right?

Yeah, just like, let's start a fight, let's pick a fight because people love drama.

You see it in rap all the time.

People, you know, pay attention to the soap opera of who's beefing and whatnot.

And people just enjoy it.

Some of those beefs are fake.

Yeah, I think a lot of them are fake.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that, you know, you look at what sells in boxing.

I think that's why the UFC got very,

very popular.

And I think in a lot of ways usurped boxing.

I mean, of course, the big stars in boxing still draw, but not the other guys.

You know, it's got to be Canelo.

Whereas the UFC,

there's none of that politics.

There's not a hundred belts.

There's not, it's just like we're selling the card.

Like, we're selling the card.

The fights are real.

The guys who need to fight each other will fight each other.

They're not, there's no promoters.

There's one.

It kind of works better as a dictatorship.

Yeah.

You know, like Dana just goes, these are the two best guys.

They're fighting now.

And like, they fight or don't fall or you leave.

And so

um

i think that's why it's it's it's gained so much popularity yeah

whereas in boxing it needs to be this bad guy good guy all this talk i mean it helps in the ufc you know to have a good buildup but people watch the card more than they're tuning in to a specific fight and the cards are every week and it's it's great i love it i tune in it's just amazing i could have named five boxes right now yeah it's it's tough it's i don't think i think most people could i don't think so yeah i think most people just go Canelo, right?

And then they're, they're just, you know, the casual fan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What do you think about the power slop stuff?

Um, well,

well, I think you should call it what it is a more honest name.

I think you should just call it

practice hostage hitting.

I mean, yeah, I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I'm amused by how much he just doesn't care and keeps pushing.

He just keeps throwing it up on his gram and like all the contents are just like what is this this is not a sport but yeah i i i think it's stupid yeah i'll pick that up i say that with respect because i love the ufc i love ufc i love dana but i wouldn't do power slap ever no it's just ridiculous yeah it's not a sport i mean what is it it's hostage hit it's a guy with his hand behind his back yeah and you're going like tell me tell me where tell me where the enemy lines are

a guy smacks him and he either passes out or he doesn't yeah it's a little too brutal you get in any fights growing up in the streets of brooklyn yeah it was it it was rough growing up in that era.

I mean, I grew up in kind of a nicer area, but the circumference of what was nice was much smaller.

I grew up in Parkslow, Brooklyn, and

it was just a bad time in New York.

It was just an awful era.

I grew up in the 80s.

Was the mob still running it, though?

The mob was still running it.

The mob was still running it.

Ironically, you were...

That's not what you really worried about.

You worried about like kids.

There was just...

packs of kids everywhere.

If you go back and look at the news from the 80s, there's all these headlines about wilding kids.

They used to be calling them wilding kids.

And yeah, there was just gangs and kids.

And it was very typical to get

robbed and beat up and chased on Halloween by 40 kids.

Yeah,

it was not fun.

Gentrification was a good thing.

Let me tell you something.

If you see lesbians moving into a bad neighborhood, buy in that neighborhood.

I know you're a business guy because lesbians are the Marines of gentrification.

They're the first ones ones in when you see them go in they're tough they start a softball game they open a bar they plant a flag that means the next that's coming is like the young kids from the suburbs who are dreaming they want to move there to become like a whatever an artist a comedian everyone's wants to be a comedian now and then once the gays come in they come in and they do the interior design and they are the navy so the ground troops are the young kids from the suburbs the marines the lesbians and then when the navy's in there it's full-blown the million-dollar properties.

Yeah, once the gays are in, forget it.

Yeah, that's the process of gentrification.

Wow.

So that's what happened in Brooklyn.

It's what happened in Brooklyn.

Because now the houses are like a million.

Dude, a million is low.

I mean, in the neighborhood I grew up in, my father bought that house.

It used to be like a very Irish neighborhood, working class.

Like they still have a St.

Patty's Day parade there before the main St.

Daddy's, St.

Patty's Day parade.

He bought that house from a

family called Murphy for $28,000.

in 1959, I believe.

They still had like a wood stove that was heating the house or whatever.

So, and then now those properties are worth like four or five million.

Holy shit.

Is your dad still there?

No, no, he's gone.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

So you guys sold it eventually?

We sold it.

Yeah.

We sold it.

We got a nice little penny for it.

And then moved to L.A.

And then, no, I still live in New York.

Oh, New York?

Yeah, I'm still in New York.

I live in like,

upstate New York now, but I still have an apartment in Brooklyn, in Bay Ridge.

Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.

So you got your space upstate.

I got my space upstate.

I live in horse country.

I got a wife, two kids now.

So I'm

living a different life.

Yeah.

It's a different life.

No more partying.

Were you a big party, son?

No, but drinking, drinking was big in comedy.

Drinking was big when I was coming up.

And we were talking before the podcast started.

Yeah, people were using drugs too.

I didn't, but you can't now.

Like, you just can't.

You just, there's fentanyl and everything.

You got to walk around with a full team of scientists to test everything because you just never know what's in it.

I mean, people are just dropping dead like flies from fentanyl.

Teenagers.

It's all over the place.

Yeah.

Would you drink before your show or after?

I would drink before my show when I was young and inexperienced and nervous, and that was just bad.

I just realized it was bad.

Like

it's like with drugs, man.

You feel like, you know, when you're on Coke and you're like, I'm the most interesting man in the world.

And then you talk to your friends who weren't on Coke and they're like, you were the most annoying person last night.

It's just not real.

Same thing with alcohol.

Like, it's just not real.

You're just numb.

You're numbing yourself.

You're numbing your nerves.

And that's bad in comedy.

You want the nerves.

You want to feel the pressure because that makes you sharp.

You're about to go out there and do something that carries high consequences.

It hurts your feelings when you don't do well.

There's a reason why people's biggest fear above dying is public speaking.

It goes back to that thing we were talking about, that survival instinct or whatever.

It's in us.

It was mine for like 24 years.

It's public speaking.

My biggest fear, yeah.

Yeah.

And it's weird because it's not dangerous it's not it's just like you're so vulnerable i think you're so vulnerable and there's i think it's just something in our brain i think it's beyond even our comprehension it's an instinct i think it's like don't speak out against the tribe you know don't be so don't go up there solo blend in you know survive go it's something like deep in us it's like almost uh intrinsic to our nature i can see that yeah back in your day you couldn't get instant feedback with social media you had to go to the show and perform yeah so it was a lot more like in person it's in per you're getting rejected in real time.

And when you're a comedian, you're getting rejected

every, you know, you gotta, every eight seconds, you're, you're up again.

And like it's pretty much like eight seconds.

You don't have a lot of time.

You need to laugh.

So, um, I mean, your generation, you guys are all psychopaths and it's great.

You don't came anymore.

I mean, you see the comedians now in their 20s.

They just go up there and my generation would be like, this guy's bombing.

But they're just like, show went great, didn't it?

And they're like, because they're just going to take one clip and throw it off the pan.

They don't give a shit.

Yeah.

They don't give a shit about the hour show.

So

that, yeah, I meet a lot of people your age, and I'm just, I'm taken aback by the confidence.

And it's a good thing.

I think a lot of it is social media, too.

It's like any question you need answered, not just social media, I mean the internet.

And who knows what it'll be with AI, but like any question you have, you can get it answered.

Like with us, it was like, we didn't know.

I thought Jamie Lee Curtis was a hemaphrodite for my whole life.

It was just a rumor that spread around.

So you couldn't go to like ChatGBT or Google.

Look it up.

You couldn't look it up.

So you're like, you didn't know anything.

If you wanted to pursue something, you had to do it for years and years and years.

You couldn't go watch all these clips of comedians and just go, I'm going to take that.

I'm going to get, you know, study that, take that.

And I barely even knew stand-up comedy was a field.

I always thought like Robin Williams and

Eddie Murphy and

I thought they were actors and like were doing shows because they were actors.

I didn't know there was clubs and there was no internet.

You know, it's like you have to go look that up in the library

under the miche film, whatever it's called.

That's a lot quicker to learn now.

You can just go on Matt Rife's Instagram, study how he does it, and just

incredible.

Exactly.

It's just kind of like, that's what everyone's doing.

And yeah, it's just everything's a lot easier.

There's just access to everything, which is ironic that people have become, in a lot of ways, very naive, which is interesting.

I'm curious on the business side of things.

Is the probability of the money made while you're touring the money is made touring and podcasts now because i mean there's guys making money now they're like what movie stars used to make it's insane what they make yeah and it's not a lot of guys um you know you have to have a big pod yeah but the ones that are big the money is in insane when you tell a comic from the previous era because i'm i'm in between eras so like my era was like like i said to you 2012 13 when i had that show at fusion it was it was already changed and now it's full fruition.

But you talk to a guy from the old era that's like, you have to have a sitcom.

You got it.

What?

The guy's not on TV.

And you tell him what this guy's making.

It's almost like probably what the Native Americans thought when they saw the conquistador ships.

That they just couldn't fathom.

They must be gods.

They're wearing gold.

Like, you just couldn't, you can't fathom it.

Like, the money's insane.

It's like Matt Damon.

It's like

the money is crazy.

And these are people that aren't on TV, you've never heard of.

I mean, for example, Andrew Schultz has never done a stand-up set on television.

What?

He's never done a stand-up special or even a late-night set or anything on television.

He never did a Comedy Central half hour.

He never did anything from the traditional route that is now extinct.

And he's selling out Madison Square Garden overnight.

Holy crap.

Yeah, he sold out two Madison Square Gardens

like in a day.

How many people sit in there?

That's like 15 to 17 or 18,000.

And they're each paying probably, what, like 50 each?

Who knows?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, the money's insane.

That's crazy.

And I know Theo Vaughn's making a lot off his show.

Dude, you're talking about millions and millions and millions and millions.

I mean, Matt Reif's deal with Live Nation that sold out like, what, in a week or something?

Like World Tour?

Crazy.

Like $20 million, $30 million, you know, and that's just the tour money.

It's a new era.

It's cool to see you embrace itself.

I feel like a lot of older guys are kind of pissed off.

I think it's a positive thing.

I think it's net positive.

There's a lot more opportunity, and complaining about it is just stupid.

Like, if you don't like what another guy's doing,

that has nothing to do with you.

You're just complaining because you're not doing it and you're not, you don't have it.

Anyone can

build a following.

Nobody is generally famous anymore.

You know, like my buddy Nate Bargatzi is doing arenas now.

And

he could walk down the street.

He's doing arenas, like an arena tour.

And he could walk around.

And I bet you like one out of five people or one out of 10 would know who he is.

you know, whereas Brad Pitt can't walk around like that because that era was like we all watched all the same movies.

Now people are watching what they're interested in.

What things are everybody has a niche following.

So you can build a niche following.

So sitting around and complaining about, you know, Matt Reif or whatever, first of all, Matt Reif's been great for comedy because he's gotten a lot of people into comedy that weren't into comedy.

So that's great.

If you look at it positively, that's great for all comedians because there's just more people.

I mean, comedy is the biggest it's ever been.

This is the biggest comedy boon in the history of man.

Wow.

It's, there's never, oh, by, dude, there has never been an era where you've had this many people selling this many tickets, doing this many theater tours, doing this many arena tours.

They're the new rock stars.

I mean, it's nobody's selling like comedians right now.

It's massive.

It's massive.

And so it's been good for comedy in general.

But a person I like to talk about who's a good example of what you're saying is Jessica Kearson.

She's got a, a, she's been around forever.

Everyone always said she needed more, you know, she deserved more.

She started a YouTube channel.

Like in a year, it got up to a million followers.

And, you know, she's not young.

And she found her audience and her audience found her.

And now she's killing it.

So it's like, if anyone's bitter about it, it's because they're just not doing it.

Because if you are good, eventually you'll find your audience and your audience will find you.

Yeah.

What do you think of Cal Williams blowing on, man?

Cal Williams is crazy.

Look, he's crazy, dude.

He's funny and he's a throwback.

He's a comedian who's not fully stable.

I'll be honest.

He's just not.

I don't think everything he's saying is true.

I'm just being honest, but he's one of the most hilarious guys out there.

So I love it.

I tune into it.

I think some of the things he's saying are probably true.

Some of them aren't.

I think some of them he probably is guessing

about.

He's entertaining.

I think he's drawing a lot of conclusions that a lot of people with schizophrenia sometimes draw.

But

he's an incredible comedian.

And his special that one, it was on HBO or something.

It was one of the best specials ever, the one that had that Michael Jackson joke on it.

He's just an incredibly funny guy.

So you don't believe him reading a thousand books a year?

No, I don't believe that.

People went not so remote.

Is that what he said?

Yeah, I don't believe it.

I think there's a lot of hyperbole there.

And it's fine.

I think he's an entertainer.

I think he's an entertainer.

The guys who are really smart,

you never hear about them.

They don't.

They don't have the entertainer chip in their brain where they want attention.

That emotional aspect, I think, is tough for the super smart guy.

Exactly.

Well, that's why Elon kills it because he somehow has both.

Yeah.

But that's so rare.

And he does it very awkwardly.

It is awkward, yeah.

You know,

easy.

You could tell he's not responding to the social cues perfectly because his brain is just working and he's just smarter.

And it is what it is.

People's brains are different.

Absolutely.

And people who want attention, like me, there's something wrong with us.

Like, don't believe what I say.

I'm doing it for attention.

I mean, the primary motivation is I obviously lacked some attention as a kid and I'm doing this for attention.

Yeah.

And I just happen to have charisma or whatever it is and make people laugh.

But I mean, yeah, don't make comedians your soothsayers.

I mean, just, yeah we're not yeah we're getting deep there but I've honestly talked to a few comedians now and they all have some traumas I don't know if that's related or yeah yes it is related I think I think it is yeah I think it's um yeah I think it's directly related I think I think the good ones too especially because you want to fit in so you kind of you want attention you want to fit in you want you're trying to get love somewhere that your parents didn't give uh I think childhood neglect I mean it's you wouldn't think it's true but the more they study this stuff and and the the leaps and bounds they are making in the mental health field is incredible just because of the neuroscience that they can look at the brain now.

And they're understanding so much.

And trauma is

becoming more and more known as one of the biggest factors in mental health.

And a lot of people aren't aware of their trauma because the brain protects you from it.

So you block it out, you rationalize it.

And

trauma is,

I think, ironically, often neglect.

And I say ironically because people think, think when they think trauma, they think, oh, you were,

you know, you were beaten up or abused or, you know, sexual stuff.

But I think, in a weird way, neglect can sometimes be worse because you're not being paid attention to.

And we're a social species.

And those first couple of years, those first five years when the brain is forming, you need it like water and food.

And so if you're neglected by your parents, I think that can traumatize you

as much and sometimes more than actually being abused because abuse, you're actually actually getting some attention.

So although it's bad, you know, you're getting attention to it.

And a lot of people who abuse, you'll see will continue to seek out those bad patterns because to them, that's that's attention.

So that's bad for a different reason.

But, you know.

Yeah, toxic relationships.

You see the girl just keeps attracting them.

Everything.

Exactly.

Yeah.

But neglect is, I think, overlooked.

And it's something that makes you feel like, you know, a pussy when you bring up.

Parents didn't pay attention.

It's like, yeah, that's bad, dude.

That's bad.

People, babies need love.

Happened to me, too, to be honest.

There's got to be a reason why you're talking to strangers.

Yeah, yeah.

I was an only child to come home.

No one's home.

And yeah, I was pretty lonely.

You're hard to miss.

You're 6'6.

So your parents were really.

Do you show a lot of that wasn't just like Irish people don't talk because they bury their trauma?

And then the Chinese are just like

tiger mom and everything.

Yeah, I think I got both ends, right?

My dad was an alcoholic.

He was Irish, so he wasn't there.

And then my mom was just strict.

Yeah, makes sense.

Yeah.

So I got both of them.

Yeah, no, the Irish just, they pour liquor on it, they push it down, they push it way.

They go case of 30 every day.

Yeah, they push it down crazy.

Yeah, they push down to drama.

Yeah, who knows what happened?

Who knows, man?

Yeah, I can see how Rogan talked to you for four hours, man.

Yeah, yeah.

We're 40 minutes in.

Oh, we're 40 minutes in already.

Yeah, it was fun.

Crazy, man.

Thanks, Timan.

Anything you want to promote us for us off?

Yeah, man.

Check out my podcast.

Please, Yannis Pappas Hour.

And catch me on the road live.

I'm touring everywhere.

Go to YannisPappasComedy.com.

You can catch me coming up in Cleveland, Toronto, Tulsa, Kansas City.

Probably forgetting something.

But just go to my website and get the tour dates.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll link it below.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thanks for watching.

See you guys next time.