The Shocking Truth About Financial Freedom – You've Been Lied To! | Jason Graystone DSH #551

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
1:00 - What made you start this journey
4:00 - Is real estate a good investment
5:30 - Forex
8:50 - What did you do when you found out you were having a kid at 22
11:26 - Is 10% a year enough
16:58 - Diversify your income streams
20:24 - Making $12 Million Off One YouTube Video
22:08 - The Power of Organic Marketing
24:30 - The Forex Space is Full of Scammers
27:35 - Do You Invest in Cryptocurrency
28:14 - How to Get to 9 Figures
29:54 - Where to Find Jason

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Although I'm not against saving, it's not a complete strategy.

So when people do that and they go, this is what ends up in midlife crisis because they get to a point where they're like, I was good, I saved 10% of my income, I did what I was told to do.

Yeah, it's not complete.

So there's a lot of great advice, but it's piecing it together so that you can actually become financially free.

Absolutely.

And that's what not a lot of people are able to do.

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All right, guys, got Jason Greystone here today.

We're going to talk financial freedom.

Everyone's goal, right?

Everyone's goal.

And not many people, people hit it.

Not many people.

Not many people hit it young, too.

No, and I think there's a lot of people that want to hit it younger and younger, which is

causing a lot of problems, right?

Especially on social media.

media yeah when did you start diving down this road i was 20 just coming up to 22nd birthday

and um

i was found out i was going to have a uh child wow

yeah and he's in the green room right now and uh he's 19 now

wasn't ready for it didn't want that i had a really poor upbringing and i had you know i just wanted security i wanted all the things that i didn't have and um just yeah it made me it put a rocket up me to to figure this stuff out so i went went deep into investing and wealth building and tried every trick in the book, man.

Yeah,

everything.

There's a lot of traditional teachings that I disagree with.

Yep.

So you got to be very careful who you listen to in the financial space.

Well, there's lots of incomplete strategies.

Like, and a lot of them have got agendas to promote certain things and they add a little lot of showmanship to it to sell it.

One of the things like Robert Kiyosaki, you know, great guy, great, doing great work, but, you know, the whole 10% of your income thing, save 10% of your income, you save 10% of your income for 10 years, you've saved one year's income.

And if you do that for 40 years, which you're at work for, you've got four years' income left.

So although I'm not against saving, it's not a complete strategy.

So when people do that and they go, this is what ends up in midlife crisis because they get to a point where they're like, I was good.

I saved 10% of my income.

I did what I was.

told to do

and then it gets closer and closer and they realize they can't retire and then it's like crap i better start living yeah and buy a a convertible car or you know they go and blow the money and go and live for a few years but yeah it's not complete so there's a lot of great advice but it's it's piecing it together so that you can actually become financially free absolutely and that's what not a lot of people are able to do i'm not a fan of saving dude no just because of inflation um your money's going down so fast so if you save 100k in like 10 years it'll be worth probably 70 80.

yeah well yeah i mean the cost i mean inflation means that the cost of living will double every 16 20 years or so yeah um so even that like if you need people say i want to be a millionaire by 30 millionaire by 40.

well when you get there you're going to need two million right if you want today's lifestyle that's without you saying you want to up your lifestyle increase your lifestyle if you want to increase your lifestyle you need even more yeah you need three four million right being a millionaire should no longer be the goal for it should not be the goal it's such a fluffy goal and this is one of the things that

I try and promote as much as possible.

You want to be a millionaire, great.

But most millionaires are equity millionaires anyway.

And you can't, you know, if that's in property, you can't take a brick off of your house and go and pay for breakfast, right?

You need income to have a great life.

And the goal is a great life, not a millionaire.

So you just need cat.

You need income.

Yeah.

And you get income from.

a lot of the time not being a millionaire.

It's ironic, right?

It's so true.

Yeah.

So true.

And I totally agree with you millionaire should not be the goal it's a very very fluffy goal yeah so what's your advice when it comes to buying real estate because i am on the fence greg cardone says it's one of the worst investments uh you can make for a personal home how do you feel about it yeah for me i mean proper i look at it this way property is

an asset to a degree um but i'm much more of

i much more favor putting my money into things that grow and evolve whilst I'm asleep.

So I'll give you an example if i invest in apple and microsoft and stocks and companies right you've essentially got the greatest minds on the planet round the table whilst i'm asleep thinking of ways how they can outdo each other and innovate and grow these you know and build these great products yep and i'm asleep Or you could buy a house which is rotting and decaying and it needs repairs and the roof needs redoing and the grass needs cutting and the fences are breaking and you've got tenants that come in.

Okay, they pay you some money, but they're also setting things alight and burning the carpet and all these kind of things.

And it's just a headache.

So I like to put my money into things that are not going backwards.

I like to put things into evolution.

And for me, human beings are that.

I'd much rather invest in humans and real life.

and companies that are breathing and living and moving forward rather than something that's rotting and decaying in the sun.

Another investment you have is in the forex space, right?

Yep.

So that was the last piece of the puzzle.

I don't recommend, I recommend most people don't trade.

Okay.

First and foremost.

Just not most people can't do it, or most people go into it as the first point of call to make money.

Whereas I went into it as the last piece of the puzzle to replace the last piece of income that I needed to not have to work.

Right.

And underneath all of that, I had lots of passive investments, lots of cash, lots of, you know, solid fixed income investments.

And then I could afford to speculate a little bit and lose a bit of money until I eventually came good and then found my feet.

And when you're in that state, you can concentrate and you can focus and you're more poised.

Whereas if you are gambling everything you've got.

on something you, you know, that's very volatile and you can't pay the bills or you need that money to pay for food.

You're not, that very approach is the thing that's going to stop you from being able to master it because you need to be process-oriented, logical-minded.

You know, you need to

be able to make decisions.

And when you're irrational or you're in poverty, you just can't.

And that's the problem with people that get into forex or crypto, these get-rich-quick schemes or whatever.

They're desperate for money, a lot of them.

They're desperate.

Yeah, desperate for money.

There was a study done in India, 56 cities around southern India, and they tested the farmers' IQs.

And when the market was booming and the crop was good and market was great, their IQ raised by 30 points.

Holy crap, that's a huge jump.

Huge, right?

And

when they're in poverty and the market was dropping and it was slow, it dropped by up to 30 points, up to 30 points.

So it just proves that when you're in a level of poverty, And when I say poverty, I mean you can't.

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Maintain or upkeep the home comforts that you've acclimatized to, right?

That's what I define poverty as.

It's your own personal comfort that you can't.

maintain and when that drops and you go into this kind of animal mode you can't possibly think about learning complex skills such as trading it's impossible so the the the position you're in is the problem and the approach you're taking to learn to trade is is what's stopping you from being able to learn to trade right right and whereas if you've got money in the bank and cash in the bank and you've you've put some money into maybe some

you know index funds and then you've put a bit more into large cap stocks and then maybe you've kind of wet your feet a bit and you've worked your way up into kind of medium cap stocks or maybe some property.

When you then go, right, I'm going to go onto a roulette table or I'm going to go and play poker or I'm going to go and learn to trade.

If you allocate that portion correctly, if you lose it, you're not losing the house.

Therefore, you just don't, you don't care.

And it's, it's fine.

Absolutely.

Most people don't do that.

No.

So going back to how we started, having a kid at 22, there's a lot of people right now watching this having kids at 20s, 30s that are living paycheck to paycheck.

I know a few of my friends are now in this situation.

What did you do from there?

Yeah.

So,

first of all, I did save, right?

So, I started saving my money.

I was already doing that before I found out that we were going to have a boy, but it was really, I became fascinated with this idea that I could replace my income from more leveraged income streams.

So, I was an electrician.

I was going out and I was an electrical engineer and, you know, exchanging my time for money, having to go out into London every day on building sites and all the rest of it.

I wanted income where

I could generate being mobile and

more passive, you know, require less time to do it.

And I created this kind of system where I thought, well,

if I invest 10% of my income and get a 10% return per year, which, you know, seems high for some people and low for others,

I can replace my income in about 20 years, right?

And just when I figured that out, I thought, wow, you know, why don't I teach that in school?

Because you go to work for like 45 years,

right?

And I thought, and the math worked out, and I was like, wow, okay, what about getting this thing down?

So then I started going, what if I increase my savings every three months and put those into investments?

And then what if I can

increase my income?

So I started looking at, you know, overtime.

I was, I was working hard.

I was getting as basically putting as much money into this system that I was creating so that it would churn and start spitting out

returns.

Right.

And then it was like, okay, how can I take this to the next level and speculate a little bit?

So then I had, I had to learn a skill.

I had to learn how to read financial statements.

I learned how to pick stocks and value invest.

And then I just took it further and further until the point I learned how to trade financial markets.

That took me about three years.

And I lost probably 40 grand nearly.

In three years.

on the early part about in the first year i lost about 50 grand after about three years i came profitable.

Not much, but it was enough.

And

after that point, I'd replaced my income.

So from start to finish, I got it.

I was started at 20 years and I got it down to about three and a half.

Wow.

After the point that I became profitable at trading.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

So by 29, so I was 21 when I found out, struggle, struggle, you know, did all the thing.

And then by 29, I was, I'd completely replaced my income that I was getting from my job.

And I was tired.

And you mentioned 10% a year.

Do you think that's still enough to aim for these days?

I think anyone can get 10% per year for starters.

And if you think about that,

the first question that you said about financial freedom, if you ask the room who wants to be financially free, everyone would put their hand up.

If you ask how many people have achieved it, everyone's hand would go down.

Maybe two hands, one hand, right?

Because the truth is, it's like 2% to 3% of the population actually become completely financially financially free.

And then when you look at what most people working towards financial freedom are actually doing, and you look at their savings and how much they've got in their bank account, you see that it's like $1,500 like on average, right?

Anyone who saves, the average people that save got about $1,500 in their savings account.

So even if you've got 10% per year, right, that's better than nothing, like that's better than nothing.

And anyone can go and do that.

You go and put it into a high growth index fund and over time, you will approximate 10% a year, which it has done over the last 93 years that I've been studying, like, you know, that I've been, that I've studied.

And anyone can do that, right?

It'sn't, it's slow, but it's wise.

And it's, and it's something that what's the, what's the risk?

What's the worst case?

You're going to have that money still, right?

Which most people don't have.

This is the kind of argument I have with people.

It's like, what's worth, what, what's the alternative?

Okay, have nothing.

You know, don't do anything and lose your money.

So you're going to have it.

Um, the other thing is, like, a lot of people think pensions are boring.

Yeah, pensions are boring, but a lot of people don't do the numbers.

So, talking about 10% being enough,

the average life expectancy is 77 at the moment, if that's crossed between men and women.

The average retirement age is 65.

So, you've got 12 years at the end of your job, hoping that you die at 77.

The average pension pot in the UK is about 87 and a half grand.

That is about six grand a year or 600 pounds per month to live,

which is like $900

a month.

Now, after you've worked for 45 years and you've really put in your hard work, right?

You don't want to be living a lifestyle of 800, 900

a month, right?

In your golden years, they call it.

But people don't do the numbers.

And then you have to hope that you die at 77 because your money's run out and you've got more money at the end of your life or more life at the end of your money than money at the end of your life so otherwise you become a burden on your kids or become a burden and no one wants to become a burden i don't want to for sure please help me you know no one wants to be in that situation so people don't do their numbers if they did do their numbers they'd think right okay i need this much by then and then 10 might be enough for them if it isn't then what i what i would suggest is increasing your savings too many people buy so much stuff now that they don't need to impress people that they don't care about, right?

For sure.

We all know that.

We all got to do that fees.

We all go through it.

Yeah, we definitely all go through it.

And I've had all the love, I've nice cars.

And

I'm in a place now where I've just got enough.

If I could live this day forever, I'd be a very happy person.

And, you know, I love my life.

I don't need anything else.

But not everyone's got that.

And everyone's kind of...

still chasing, chasing, chasing.

But a lot of buying this stuff to impress other people is shaving years and years off of your chances of becoming financially free.

It's also

removing your chance completely of becoming financially free.

And that's the truth of it.

So instead of doing that, put the demand on your own lifestyle, truly pay yourself first.

Everyone talks about pay yourself first.

I don't think most people understand what that actually means.

Paying yourself first means putting more of your like.

as soon as you get paid, you put more into your investments and before you buy all of that stuff, so that you feel the pinch in your own life and it's like wow you know i've just increased my savings i don't know how i'm going to afford

something like i don't know how i'm going to afford to eat next week but that's the magic something happens when you do that when you when you put a demand on your own lifestyle something happens you'll get a client ring you and say oh can we work on that project it's always happened to me like and the best way to think about it and and prove my point is if anyone's got kids when they found out they were going to have a a kid, they were like, I can't, how are we going to afford this?

But you're you did it, yeah, and the reason you did it is because you didn't have a choice.

So, paying yourself first is that exact same situation where you just say, I have to make this work.

This is like a tax.

If it was tax, you'd pay it, but if it's your own investments, you don't.

Whereas, I did, that was that was the difference.

It was like, I have to do this first, this is the first priority.

Um,

and yeah, you can absolutely do it.

And then, and then the beauty is the more money you have

in the market or the more liquidity you have, the more your creative brain comes alive and allows you to learn new things.

So then you can learn about stocks and then you can learn about, you see other opportunities that you didn't see before because your head was in the sand.

Right.

Right.

So now you're open to opportunity and a suggestion.

And, oh, do you want to come in on this?

Yes, I saw that now.

But before you didn't see it because you're thinking, I don't know how I'm going to pay my bills.

Can't possibly think about giving money to anyone else.

You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

What do you think are the advice to diversify your income streams?

They always say the average millionaire is seven.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, for me, diversified income streams has come as a, it's almost,

you can't avoid it.

Yeah.

You literally can't avoid it, right?

And the more success you have in investments, the more.

I just think the more poised you are and calm you are as a human, people trust you to, they want to do stuff with you, partner with you.

There's kind of opportunities everywhere.

the key then say no to things that that are going to take up too much of your time um but yeah you you absolutely can't avoid creating new income streams when i look at new income streams it still has to be mobile and and leveraged like and when i say leverage like whatever you're going to do just be a master of delegation like that's that's what i'm

you're never going to be financially free if you can't delegate things outsource yeah outsource or just get rid of the things that you're not inspired by because it starts to drain you you start to resent the thing and it kind of has a reverse effect whereas if you go right we've got this opportunity to create more leveraged income we've diversified uh we've got this this opportunity here to create a new income stream but i don't want to get sick of that income stream i want it to work so what are the bits that i like to do there and then what don't i want to do and making sure that you can delegate that otherwise you'll just be if you if you don't have a plan for how you spend your time and your money someone else will have a plan for how you spend your time and money

right And your calendar will just be filled with other people's shoulders to cry on and all this kind of stuff.

That's not a way to live, man.

No.

And then you start going, oh, I don't want to do that again.

You know, and then you don't.

And then you repel these kind of opportunities that come at you.

But diversifying your incomes as a

strategy is very wise.

I know people say go all in on one.

There's truth in all of it, right?

Everything's half true.

And I think, yes, if you're an expert at something and you're going in, you're double downing on something because it's got a bigger picture, a bigger outcome, great, do that.

And then once it gets big, then you divert, you take that and you build wealth and you diversify income, right?

And it's safe and it brings in lower returns.

But guess what?

You don't have to do, you don't have to exchange your time for it.

Yeah, absolutely.

That's the first stage, right?

Trading your time for money.

Then it becomes

the opposite.

Absolutely.

Yeah, you do have to trade your time for money, but you very quick, if you want to be free and you want to get there quick, you very quickly have to learn how to delegate.

Because not only that, if you're in business, like you have to,

you're bottlenecking yourself if you're just doing all the crap, like crap that you're not inspired to do.

And someone else is better at you at doing it anyway.

You know, so just that was my biggest thing I had to overcome my first few years, just micromanaging everything, wanting to do customer service, marketing.

Yeah, you just have to let it go, right?

It was tough.

Yeah, it is tough.

It is tough because when you start, you just don't believe that anyone else can do it like you.

Yeah,

it's like the confidence from just not knowing.

knowing no no and but the truth is this there is a kid running a mcdonald's right who would wipe the floor of most people's business like they're dealing with hospitality drunk people yeah they're like running this system they're 16 years old or whatever age it is they can run a mcdonald's man you're you're worried about like delegating some emails

there's levels there's levels there is levels there is levels did you make four million dollars off one youtube video yes that's nine million nine million yeah nine million pounds, $12 million.

Holy shit.

What happened?

So I've been chipping away at YouTube for a long time.

And hopefully, as I'm coming across here, I'm very honest and transparent.

I could have blown my YouTube up and sold the dream to everyone.

Yeah.

But I stayed very true, very authentic, very, you know, congruent.

And

teaching people the truth about this stuff.

Finances, investing, trading.

I was letting people watch me trade for free for years.

And

I was just chipping away, chipping away.

And then we put our heads together and thought, what would be a great, you know, how can I give YouTube a video and give the audience a video where they could watch it start to finish and not need me ever again?

And that was the question that we had in mind.

So we sat down, we went start to finish everything that you could think about on trading, speculation,

strategies, brokers.

everything everything laid it all out designed a really cool thumbnail that was kind of like the for dummies, uh, you know, the for dummies.

Yeah, the yellow ones, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, we kind of ripped off that and stuck it on and done like a variation of that, and it was called trading for dummies.

And, um,

we uploaded it in January, and then by May, it had about 10,000, and then in May, it was getting about

10,000 a day, and then it just, it just blew up from there.

And I went from 55,000 subscribers to, you know, 275,000 subscribers, which,

is crazy.

On YouTube, that's crazy.

Yeah.

On YouTube, it's mad.

And

that was in the space of a year.

And then what I said earlier about like, you can't help but make more money.

I gave that video away for free.

And although the YouTube ad rev on that was, I mean, I'm in the financial education arena.

So the

ad revs are high, right?

It's like, I think we did about 120 grand on just that video.

Wow.

But the,

because we built these great back-end systems we've really leveraged that thing and you know just in the first few months we had 5 550 people buy a 30-day mini program with me for 297 holy dollars which was 1.6 million dollars yeah and then you know up till now it's done nine million that's insane it is absolutely crazy so almost 10 million off one video yeah no ads i've never placed an ad i've never i don't have an ad account incredible you know never we'd had no marketing, no ads, no staff.

Nothing.

That's insane.

I had to spend a lot on ads to get to a million on YouTube.

Right.

Yeah.

Tens of thousands.

I know.

Yeah.

Most people do.

That's, that's why I was asked to speak on stage with Stephen Bartlett and Ali Abdel because that whole event was about marketing.

Oh, yeah.

And I, and you're like the organic marketer.

Yeah, like the non-ad ad, ad guy, the non-ad.

And that's probably more relatable to people because running ads is hard.

Yeah, yeah.

I think it was a breath of fresh air because, you know, the whole ad space and meta and what they do with it, changing it and keeping you on your toes.

Prices are so expensive though yeah yeah yeah it's crazy so i mean i'm sure it'll be something that i'll learn one day but i mean right now it's at the point where people aren't even profiting off the front end if you don't have a good back end with paid ads you're not even going to make money right so in the back end we created a

an ecosystem of products that was very leveraged of time it was like very lean very low cost you know no staff no we've had two

refunds in like well in five years of money damn that's it yeah holy crap.

That's a good product then.

Yeah, it's amazing.

And the reason being is because we create everything with that in mind.

It's like, what, what would the business look like if you didn't need money?

And if everyone, every business owner asked that question, they'd have a remarkable business.

They'd have remarkable conversations with their clients.

There would be stuff in their business that they just wouldn't do, you know?

And

ultimately, they'd focus on getting results for people instead of making money.

That's always been my thing.

How can I get a result for someone?

And then they'll tell someone and they'll tell someone.

Brilliant.

Cause there's a lot of people in your space where their chargeback and refund rate is insane.

They lose the whole payment process.

One of the biggest guys who's actually one of the reasons I got into that, because I was just sitting at home, mate.

I moved our family into our dream house, you know, amazing house.

I was sitting there playing a lot of guitar, eating a lot of food, trading.

I didn't need to do this.

But the reason I started to share my trades, not as a signal service, but just share an insight into what I was doing, is because there was so much crap.

And there was one in particular, massive.

He was run to the back of the room, you know, the whole success resources.

Yeah.

And

his channel just got to 220,000 subscribers and got deleted by YouTube because of harmful content.

Holy crap.

And he hasn't got one testimonial, one good word said by any client.

Damn.

And someone who's claiming to have taught thousands of people to trade, you'd think someone would pop up and say, this guy's great.

At least one.

Yeah.

So at least a fake one, right?

Exactly.

Yeah.

So I'll just focus on like getting results, knowing my knowing people that I work with name, first-name basis, going for you know, drinks and meals with them, and just you know, you're a needle in the haystack in the forex space.

That's a lot of scammers,

dude.

Yeah, there's so many in that space because it's easy to manipulate people emotionally in that space.

It really is, yeah.

You show like a good fake trade, they'll be like, Oh my gosh, I need to do that.

I know, and these traders are doing it, they're taking multiple trades and then showing the winner, or they're doubling down and buying.

And you see the screenshots of these apps, you know, and they've got like 50 of the same play.

So as it starts to move, they're just playing more and more and more.

And it's like, and if you look at the position size, they're risking like 25% of their account, which no trader does.

No, that's insane.

That's not professional trading.

That is like literally at the casino.

Yeah, you probably only risk like 1%, right?

1% max.

Yeah.

25 is nuts.

It's crazy.

Because you lose that twice, you're down 50%.

And most human beings cannot stand fluctuations of more than 10% of anything.

Like, if I lost 10% of my friends, it would affect me.

If I got paid

more than 10% of my average wage at a job, I would be a bit cocky.

And so your emotions start to fluctuate below or plus or minus 10%.

I think that's why the church figured out 10% tithing, right?

That's the most they could take without

people complaining.

So yeah, just take it.

Absolutely.

But if it was 12%, they might.

Yeah, there's something there.

Yeah, psychologically, it's that double-digit number, right?

Yeah, because if it's like nine, you're like, ah, it's only single digits.

Absolutely.

10%.

So 10%, like evolutionary, we just have this kind of threshold, like a thermostat, where it's like, I can't stand losing 10%.

I mean, if I lost 10% of my trading account, I'd be sick.

That's why people in crypto have the toughest skin.

Oh, man.

10% a day.

Yeah.

Up and down.

Yeah, yeah.

And you have to know your stuff.

If you're going into crypto, you know, following someone on TikTok just isn't going to get it.

No, definitely not for crypto.

Definitely not.

Playing against like pros.

Yeah, buying shit coins is not the move in crypto.

It's not the move.

Not the move at all.

Yeah.

You have any crypto?

Yeah, I have.

I have Bitcoin.

Okay.

That's it.

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I've been holding, like, I've been buying Bitcoin year on year for a while.

I feel that.

And that's it.

But yeah.

Other than that, I don't play it because I just don't know enough about it.

I stick in my lane and do what I'm good at.

I'd rather just give someone else.

Like,

if someone's starting a business, I'd rather give them money and go, right, okay, I understand your business.

You've got a good reputation, you know, diversify my risk.

And I'll give them money to go and build a corporation and take a smaller piece of a big pie rather than a big piece of a volatile pie, which is a headache full of staff and full of, that's not me.

I want to enjoy my life.

Yeah.

I feel like equity is how you get to nine figures.

Equity in businesses.

Definitely.

It's scalable.

It's scalable.

It is slow at first, but it's exponential.

Like it is, it just.

They say like most people who are really successful are in like 45 years old.

They start their big play.

Right.

And you can, it's obvious that that's why, because you've figured out all the things that don't work.

You've built great connections.

You know, you know people, you can get things done quicker.

You've learned, you know, you know what works, what doesn't work.

You know how to place your money for a better return.

And

you're invited to different conversations.

And then it's almost like it all comes together and you've got this.

power to just like do whatever you like

if you've been in the right you know if you've been doing the right thing yeah you're wise at that age, but yeah, look at Cody Sanchez, Hormozi, Sam Parr, Sean Puri, they're all buying companies right now, yeah, absolutely, man.

Yeah, that's that's how wealth is built.

But with regards to crypto, I always say, like, if it keeps you up at night, you probably shouldn't have been in it.

Like, if you're checking, if you're checking an app on your phone, you've put too much in, or you shouldn't be in it at all.

Absolutely, I have crypto, but I don't check it, right?

That's how it should be.

Yeah,

the more you're up at night, or the more you're checking your phone, that's a signal that you shouldn't be in that.

you should have less money in that thing.

My mom used to text me every hour: oh, my crypto's down, she sold out a loss.

I'm like, you were, you don't have the right mindset for this.

Oh, man, I feel sorry for people that check crypto daily.

Oh,

stressful,

not even daily, hourly.

Yeah, some people are like glued to their phones.

Yeah, and I've seen it, and it ruins ruins lives, man.

But

yeah, just don't, don't do it.

Absolutely.

There's much easier and more fulfilling ways to make money.

Yeah.

Jason, where can people find your course and what you're up to, man?

Yeah, I don't sell, like, actively sell anything so all i'd love to promote is my podcast okay you know if you go and listen to always free um from episode one hopefully you're still listening by episode six but i from episode one to episode 20 i give a full like breakdown of what i recommend everyone does to have a free and inspired life like and there's no need to worry me just go and do that well i love it man we'll link it below Thanks so much for coming on dude.

Thanks, man.

It's been a pleasure.

Yeah.

Thanks for flying out here.

Thanks for watching, guys.

It was fun.

See you tomorrow.

Cheers.