Biohacking Secrets: Avoid These Common Mistakes! I Dr. Jay Feldman DSH #516

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and here's the episode all right guys we got dr j feldman here with the uh the biohacking going on right i love biohacking i love to be here thank you sean absolutely what have you been getting into lately anything new

a few new things i'm i'm pretty excited about right now uh the first one is pemf it's pulsed electromagnetic frequency in tony robbins new book new it's like two years ago He cited this as one of like the cures to all of his long-term injuries, his shoulder injury or his back injuries.

And what that does is shoots pulse electromagnetic waves through your body to increase circulation and it gets down to like the organ and tissue level.

So I've got like a $60,000 machine in my apartment made by Pulse.

You don't need one like that,

but that is a huge difference maker for me.

The way that I'm able to recover, the way that I'm able to think when I'm done with it, there's a dog attachment, so I've been using it on my dog.

That's awesome.

Other than that, NAD is a mainstay.

I've been on my vitamin supplements and C-Max, which is a Russian peptide for making you smarter, increasing your short-term memory and cognition.

Really?

That's an injection that I take a couple times a week.

I need to look into that one.

S-E-M-A-X.

C-MAX.

Is that one banned yet?

They banned a lot of peptides.

They banned all of them.

Oh, they banned all of them?

Pretty much.

The FDA is reviewing them.

And it was the Wild West, just kind of like vitamin supplements.

You don't really know what you're getting.

People are getting them overseas.

They're so new and relatively unstudied that you are, I guess, taking a risk when you're using these things.

They're just trying to make them a little bit less accessible.

So there's pros and cons to that.

But I think overall, peptides are going to change the world of healthcare and medicine.

Whoa.

That's a statement.

Why are they so effective, in your opinion?

Because they're so targeted.

So when you take a hormone like testosterone, you're affecting a thousand different systems in your body.

There's a ton of upsides and downsides to taking something like a hormone.

When you're taking a peptide, you're able to hyper-target one specific reaction in your body.

So you get the benefit that you want, the specific benefit that you want with almost none of the downside.

Wow, that is interesting.

And do you think it's something people in their 20s and 30s should look into, or do you think it's more when you get older?

I think it's really dangerous for young people to start taking peptides, just like steroids.

There's a lot of peptides that people are taking for muscle growth, for recovery.

And a lot of those same peptides that people are using to enhance their performance can have long-term negative side effects, like increasing your chances of getting cancer.

So I do think it's something people should be careful of.

But if you're looking to

work like a superhuman and improve your memory, then C-Max might be a good option for you.

If you're trying to lose weight, Ozempic might be a good option for you.

Ozempic's a peptide.

A lot of people don't know that.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, it suppresses

your hunger hormone.

Wow.

That's all it does.

It goes in there, suppresses the hunger hormone, so you're able to eat less.

So peptides are awesome.

There's a melanotan too, makes your cells produce more melanin pigment, makes you tanner, the tan

peptide, almost no negative side effects to it, except a little bit, little bit of nausea when you take it.

And it's just like getting a suntan without any of the negative effects of UV.

Wow.

There's some crazy peptides out there.

And the ones that you know about, there's hundreds more in development for all different types of use cases.

That's exciting.

And they're going to make us smarter.

They're going to make us stronger, make us tanner.

So there's a lot of really cool stuff in development that I'm excited about.

So we're going to get to the point where humans can choose what build they want.

I think so.

And I think we might already be there in some cases.

Like, for example, choosing what gender and traits that you want in your kids.

I think our technology is there.

I think there's a lot of ethical and moral concerns that are going to hold a lot of the technology back.

And that's where the conversation is going to be.

Not if we can do it, but how accessible should it be?

And should we do these types of things?

Yeah.

Where are you on that?

Because if I had a kid, I would want it to have zero chance of disease.

So I'm on board with that.

But the gender thing, I don't know if I, if I want to pick that.

I think we'd all want to choose those traits.

I would love the option to choose the gender, to choose the height,

like make my kid attractive.

Make my kid, if it's a boy, make him 6'2.

Like there's certain traits that we can all universally agree that are preferred.

If you're having a boy, of course, you want him to be 6'2 and not 5'2.

Right.

Of course, you want him to be good looking with no acne and smart.

But yeah, is that a slippery slope for humanity?

I think so.

If some people can afford to do that and some people can't, now you have wealthy families who are having these hyper-intelligent, hyper-attractive kids.

Whereas lower societies having kids that aren't necessarily as attractive can't compete in the marketplace against these genetically modified kids.

So what kind of world do you end up with?

I don't know.

But once this technology is available, how do you stop it?

If I can go to South America and choose those traits for my kids, I'm going to and their economy is going to thrive for it.

Right.

So I don't know where it takes us, but it's scary and it's exciting.

Yeah, I agree.

It's like a pay-to-play model almost.

If you have money and you can afford it,

it's going to separate you even further from the.

I think that's where we're going.

Especially with health and longevity.

I think that technology is getting so good so fast.

So you see in like some of these futuristic movies, it's like these people who are living to be hundreds of years old in the sky.

And then people fighting on the ground that can't afford their next meal.

Unfortunately, with the way healthcare and some of these medical treatments are going, I think we're headed there.

Rich people are going to live longer.

They're going to have kids that are smarter, healthier, better looking through all of this technology.

Hopefully our pets will live longer too.

I'm on board with that.

Me too.

I wish my dog could live forever.

Next year, they're releasing a medication for pets.

Dogs over the age of 10, supposed to give them years of additional length to their life.

wow that's exciting i know i've been i have a biohacking vet now dude i need that where is he based i'll connect you please because i've been looking into like these because i go to banfield and they always inject them with stuff like it's kind of western medicine ideology i'm not a fan of it man me neither i've got my dog on rapamycin now what's up it's a biohacking medication actually used in humans too it's an antibiotic that's got a lot of downstream effects on longevity uh specifically with like cardiovascular health but in dogs preliminary studies show it's unbelievable for extending their lifespan, like years through decreased cancer risk, cardiovascular risk.

So I'll give this to my dog three days a week.

It's all through this biohacking vet.

And then in the next couple of years, we're going to see the first commercially available new medication for pets to live longer.

Dogs, cats, specifically big dogs.

Yeah, my dog's a big boy.

Yeah.

It acts on growth hormone.

I think it like suppresses growth hormone late in age.

I don't know the exact kind of biochemistry of how it works, but our dogs are going to hopefully be able to live to 20 consistently.

That's huge.

At least I'm praying that it works the way that I think it does.

That'd be great.

Did you know you could clone your dog?

Yeah, I talk about it all the time.

I say that I will clone my dog, and by the time it's time for him to get cloned, it should be like five grand.

I think right now it's like 50.

Oh, yeah, my friend paid 50.

Oh, he actually did it.

He did it, yeah.

Tell me a little bit about so right before he died, cut a piece of meat, sent it off, forget what country, because it's not legal here, I believe.

And then they cloned it, and he said it's the exact same.

Cut a piece of meat.

Yeah.

They need some meat for the DNA thing.

I don't know how it works, but what kind of meat?

Like a piece of the dog?

Yeah, a piece of the dog.

Yeah.

What kind of beast did they cut off the dog?

I didn't ask.

I was just more dumbfounded at the fact that cloning was possible.

I didn't really get into the nitty-gritty of it.

Oh, man.

Yeah, it's possible.

And I'm excited about it.

I have the perfect dog.

So I always think about what it would be like for my kids to grow up with the same dog that I grew up with.

And how different would that dog be from my dog, Moses personality-wise?

Like, hopefully, they'll look the same.

Yeah.

What a name, Moses.

Moses, my boy Moses.

What breed?

He's a golden doodle, full-size golden doodle.

He's a good angel.

Golden Retriever Bernese mix.

Nice.

How old is yours?

He's five.

So the fact you're saying this is getting me

super excited.

So I'm starting to think about these things.

Yeah.

He's middle-aged.

I honestly think about it daily.

Yeah.

I don't want to lose them.

I'm going to connect you with my biohacking vet.

There's a lot that we can do

to keep them younger.

And there's a lot of red tape for like what we can do, especially in America.

Yeah.

like stem cell treatments for dogs.

They cut off a little piece of their fat, send it to a lab, and they're able to culture their stem cells.

And they keep these stem cells in a, in a fridge for anytime your dog has joint issues, anytime it goes through dementia, cardiovascular issues.

They can then reuse these same stem cells for your dog.

Wow.

As it gets older, like joint disease kills a lot of dogs.

As they go on immobile, they get fat.

and they die of obesity-related disease.

So if you can fix their arthritis with stem cells cells that you culture now, a lot of cool stuff out there for your pets.

Yeah, that's exciting.

What do you feed yours?

Because I'm looking into this raw food company right now.

Which one?

I think it starts with an M.

Mayer?

I forget the name.

If you said it, I would know it.

We use a farmer's dog.

Okay, I've heard of that one.

Great company.

Our dogs love it.

We put it in with their science diet, kibble.

So a little bit of science diet, a little bit of farmer's dog.

And then I give him joint medicine and the rapamycin, just kind of a powder in the food.

Got it.

That's funny.

I pulled my vet friends.

I went to medical school.

I have a bunch of friends who went to vet school at the same school.

And I'm like, what do you guys feed your dogs?

Like, what's what do what are vets doing?

And all of them are feeding them science, diet, kibble, every single one of them.

And I was shocked.

I'm like, how, how can kibble be healthier than human-grade food that's like cooked and fresh?

And they're like, this is what the data says.

But there's never been real good long-term studies on dogs eating kibble versus like farmer's dog or like fresh cooked food.

I just don't see that there's any way the kibble could be better.

I don't see it.

And you're seeing the increasing cancer rates.

One out of two dogs, I believe, now will die of cancer or have cancer when they die.

Yeah, which is crazy.

It is crazy.

And it's so sad to see my friend's dog right now is dying of prostate cancer.

Wow.

It just took him on like his final trip.

That's actually what sparked me to like go find this biohacking vet.

I'm like, this.

If there's anything that I can do to screen my dog or like for cancer early on, like to know my dog has prostate cancer or bone cancer or brain cancer.

Like, no one screens dogs for these things.

And I would pay any amount of money.

For sure.

They bring so much happiness to my life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're so innocent.

And cancer's rising in humans, too, man.

Yeah.

I mean, we're look what we're doing to our bodies.

I'm not surprised at all.

People are irresponsible.

Diet is a killing America.

I honestly think Ozempic might be the cure.

Well, that's a hot take.

It is a hot take.

It's a little controversial, but

how bad bad people are with obesity and what they're putting in their bodies, if they can take an injection once a week to make it better,

obviously the best thing is willpower, exercise, eat right, pay for organic vegetables, don't eat meats.

Like the things that we all know are true, but the things that people can't really control or they've proven that they can't control doing on a day-to-day.

I think the upsides for the injection outweigh the downsides all day, every every day.

Who I don't think it's for is, you know, people like you who are trying to, trying to model and lose the last few pounds.

Like, you're going to have some negative side effects more than you will have the upsides.

Right.

But for someone super overweight, there's more.

Yeah.

Even my dad, who's like a little bit overweight, he's on blood pressure medicine.

He's on cholesterol medicine.

And I know my dad, when I leave him, he's not going to work out.

He's going to go back and eat cheeseburgers.

So if you can go to his doctor and get an injection once a week and you just take your brain out of it as a factor, take your willpower out of it because you've already kind of proven that you're not going to change later on in life.

Yeah.

Once you're in a downward spiral, it's really hard to get out of that downward spiral.

So, if an injection once a week with very low risk can help you get break that downward spiral, 100% do it.

Yeah.

Does it frustrate you when your family and close friends are not doing healthy things like that?

Hell yeah.

It's like my dog.

Like, I can control what he consumes.

I love my dad.

I love my family.

I can't control what they consume or what they do in their own life.

I wish I could get them to exercise and eat right day to day.

I want my dad to live forever.

And I think Ozempic will help him do that, that amongst some other things.

But I think that's the lowest hanging fruit.

Because if you can fix someone overeating and eating food, obesity kills people faster than anything else.

Obesity-related disease.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

So being obese is the worst you could do.

It's the worst thing.

Diabetes, cancer, heart disease, you name it.

It all stems from obesity.

Damn, that's crazy.

I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

It makes sense.

Because your body's fighting to stay healthy and disease just is easier to spread, right?

Yeah.

And obesity is like the upstream killer of everything else.

So your blood sugar, it all diabetes, it stems from the obesity, what you're putting in your body, how you're triggering your insulin response.

Your heart disease is based on what's going on in your vessels.

If you have a lot of cholesterol buildup, plaque buildup, that's what you're putting in your body and an inflammation.

So if you can fix the the obesity part, the rest of it resolves.

Yeah.

Do you eat any sugar right now?

A little bit.

I don't think I'm like a stickler.

I'm not competing for anything.

But at the same time, I'm pretty safe with it.

I don't like processed sugars.

I don't eat candy bars.

I don't eat sodas.

But we went out to dinner.

I'll have dessert, which I think is fine.

But you have to know yourself.

I don't think anybody should live like a

SEAL Team Six and not have anything.

You need to enjoy your life.

But if there's, there's definitely a fine line.

There's a gray area of where it becomes too much.

Yeah.

And what about fructose, the sugars and fruit?

You think eating a bunch of that is fine?

No, I don't think anyone ever died from eating too many apples and bananas.

I know there's a lot of people who think that eating fruit is bad, but no, our body processes it differently.

There's a lot of different conversations in medicine.

Are all calories created equal?

I don't think so.

I think 100 calories from a banana is not the same as 100 calories from a Snickers bar.

Whereas some doctors will say they are.

Our bodies know the difference.

They're processed differently.

So, yeah.

Fruits from sugars, go for it.

I had a fruitarian on the show.

Yeah.

What was their opinion on this?

10 years fruitarian.

He said it's the best diet ever.

The thing is, though.

It was a man on it?

A man.

Interesting.

He was actually not too skinny.

I'd say a little skinny, but I don't know.

I just like eating meat too much.

My friend, 6'5,

buff dude.

He tried to go vegan.

He's been dating a vegan girl for like two years.

He said he felt great.

Every time I saw him, he was pale, skinny.

He looked sick.

Look, he was going to die.

I think

it can be really hard for a large man to go vegan because I think the way that you have to supplement your protein just is not the right way.

Vegan isn't for us.

A lot of people can get away with it.

But you can't deprive your body of like what the sustenance that it needs.

My girlfriend can go vegan.

She'll be fine.

She doesn't need meat.

She can get it from the protein that she needs from beans and soy.

But no,

I think I would be sick if I stopped eating all meat.

Granted, there's a limit.

I don't think too much meat is good either.

Yeah, agreed.

What do you think of these protein powders?

I'm seeing mixed things on these.

Yeah, weight protein powder, I think, is fine.

I don't use it.

Actually, it's intermittent fast.

I only eat one meal a day.

Wow.

Just mostly for productivity reasons.

I do think it's good for limiting your calorie intake, but mostly because I'm trying to perform at an optimal level throughout the day.

And as soon as you eat breakfast or you eat lunch, all the blood that you want up here and the focus that you want up here goes down here to digest.

I think fasting also might be a key for a lot of people, especially people who have a hard time with calories and with eating.

The one meal a day, I think, is a hack.

I'm a fan of it.

I do two, but I'd try one, honestly.

I don't know if I could do it because I play a lot of basketball, but I'd be down to try it for a week.

When you're podcasting, I mean, you do this all day sometimes.

You ever eat lunch and come back and you're a little bit groggy, a little bit slow.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

When I eat before I podcast, I'm way worse.

Yeah.

Night and day.

This is your blood's down here now.

Yeah.

So for entrepreneurs, anyone who's operating at a high level, try eating once a day, just at the end of the day.

Big old meal, 3,000 calories, whatever you want to.

3,000, one meal?

Yeah.

Damn.

A double chipotle bowl, whatever you want to jam in there.

Well, I don't eat chipotle because of seed oils, actually.

Interesting.

Yeah, what's your take on seed oils, vegetable oils, all the processed oils?

I don't think it's a coincidence that we saw heart disease massively spike in America when seed oils were introduced.

So I look at data.

That's good data.

I try and avoid seed oils as well.

When I'm cooking or at home, it's avocado oil, olive oil.

So yeah, I will avoid seed oils as well.

But I'm not.

Again, I'm not like a Nazi about it.

When you go out to restaurants, you're not telling them to cook in butter or ghee.

No, do you?

Yeah, sometimes.

How does that conversation typically go?

I ask,

what do you cook the food in?

If he says canola oil or sunflower oil, I'm like, can you cook it in butter?

If he says, no, I'll eat it.

I'm not going to leave, but I prefer to be cooked in butter.

Yeah, 100%.

What are you cooking at home?

Are you using butter, using olive oil?

Butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil sometimes.

There was a period of time I was studying like the blue zones, what people in like Mediterranean areas that were living to 100 years old were doing.

Olive oil was a big part of that.

So I went all in on the olive oil bandwagon.

I was doing a shot of olive oil every day, just like a straight-up shot.

If you ever want a laxative, do a fat shot of olive oil.

You will poop your pants in like minutes.

Interesting.

So I just ordered Brian Johnson's olive oil.

I'm very excited to try it because he was saying a lot of the olive oils are really poor quality in the stores.

So we'll see.

Yeah, olive oil is one of those things that's frequently like ripped off too.

Right.

But as long as it's extra virgin olive oil, I think you should be good.

I don't know too much about olive oil.

I'm not an expert.

Brian Johnson's crushing with these new products.

He's got olive oil.

He's got a new like liquid vitamin thing.

Yep.

He's going to do hundreds of millions.

Yeah, I think so.

I wonder if he planned this from the start.

Right.

Just document my whole journey, do this absurd

just for yourself, and then monetize like at the very end when everyone's watching.

I could see it, though.

He's already had a billion dollar exit.

So maybe he was thinking this from day one.

Yeah, he played a long game.

Yeah, he's smart.

Some people say he looks like Voldemort, but I mean, his numbers don't lie.

No, and he's transparent with the numbers and he's actually clocking them.

And he's admits when things don't work.

Like his blood transfusion ring.

He's like, yeah, you know, I took my son's blood, nothing happened.

But my dad took the blood and he had a massive change.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Just from blood.

Yeah.

I don't think I do that blood transfusion.

I mean, not now, but like there's a lot of X factors in medicine.

Like, why did that blood transfusion help his dad?

Probably don't really know, but there's a lot of things in our blood, in young people's blood, that might have a massive effect on somebody who's older and dying like tricking your body into saying oh this is young person blood i should i gotta change i gotta be younger right well that's why stem cells work right stem cells are an interesting one very interesting i hope they become more accessible within our lifetime

uh stem cells work because they differentiate into different cells in your body so you put stem cells in your knee and you've got arthritis the the theory is now you've got new cartilage and it's the only way to make new cartilage that we know about wow you put it into your blood your stem cells and they will the theory is nav circumnavigate your body find problem areas and repair them

and if that works the way that we think it will it's a miracle and i think there's a few things in medicine where people are going to suppress the evidence if it does work out i mean imagine if it came out that if you all you had to do is take some placental or placental stem cells from like a baby or a placenta, inject them into your body, and now you're going to be 10 years younger.

It's going to repair damage to your brain, to your joints, to your heart, to your blood vessels.

Imagine if that was true.

There would be a hunt for placental stem cells,

which could be a very dangerous thing for the world.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Big pharma would not like that, right?

Big pharma would not like that.

And I don't know if the world would be good.

You'd be buying placentas from poor people and in different parts of the world.

Different parts of people would be selling babies, selling remains, selling placentas.

That's scary.

Black market.

You're right.

And

like organ sales, if they made

organ sale legal, there would be some awesome benefits to that.

I would love to be able to go and buy a new kidney if I needed one or buy a new heart if I needed one.

Well, now they're going to be able to clone organs, right?

Through pigs or whatever.

I've been seeing that.

They're working on it.

And they actually think they just did their first successful pig heart transplant.

I saw that.

Crazy.

Nuts.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, I'm down, I guess.

You know, I'm down.

If it's life-saving, absolutely.

Would I rather have it from a human?

Yeah.

And what would I be willing to pay for that human heart?

A lot of money.

Right.

But what would be the downstream effects of legalizing organ sales throughout the world?

Probably.

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A lot of black market stuff, a lot of people being

used or pressured into selling the organs of themselves and their family members to supplement you know poverty yeah be scary absolutely now i know you're big on high performance you know getting good results there is getting a neural link on your radar not yet definitely not yet but am i open to it absolutely I would love to, I'm following this stuff very closely.

How is it working?

What are they able to accomplish?

It seems like sci-fi.

They've done humans, right?

Yeah.

It's in its first human now.

There was actually just a controversy.

It's just detached.

Oh, there's just like a little, I think it's, they're fine.

It's detached.

They like came off.

Holy crap.

But would I be open to it?

Yeah.

I'm all about technology.

If you came into my, my home, you'd be like, there's, there's everywhere.

I'll, and I'll experiment on myself with all kinds of fun stuff.

But I'm not there yet where I'm like, let's put a chip in my brain.

Does being smart, being intelligent have anything to do with genetics, or do you think that's trainable?

Both.

And the answer is always both.

Like nature versus nurture.

I think there's, it's always a both component.

But being smart, I think there's definitely a large genetic component.

I mean, you can tell by IQ tests and just like the way people perform and generalized exams.

But also,

it's like a muscle just like anything else.

The connections that you build, your neuron, that's all stuff that is flexible.

So if you challenge those things when you're growing up with tests, with brain games.

I think that's something that you can train and get better at.

Yeah.

Have you taken an IQ test?

Not since I was like in middle school.

Oh, God.

They're too long for me.

Yeah, they're long.

I haven't really had a reason to.

I didn't score absurdly well.

I don't think that's the reason I was successful.

I think I just work like an animal and I love working.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm the same way.

I got like a pretty low score, to be honest.

I barely made it into gifted.

Oh, yeah.

So that's pretty good.

130, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it was like barely.

That's what I got to 132.

But I took it last week and I got 108.

So I was like, did I get dumber?

We probably are getting dumber.

I definitely believe that our threshold for stimulation is changing.

Yeah.

I mean, you're 20.

So you probably grew up with a smartphone.

In high school, yeah.

Right.

High school, college.

Social media till college.

Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, the...

The stimulation people have at their fingertips, the amount of times people are bored throughout the day is like zero.

So what effect does that have on

our intelligence?

Can't be good.

Yeah, I'd be curious to to see like a chart of this.

Because how many problems do you have to solve throughout the day with like critical thinking?

Not you can just ask Chat GPT or look it up.

Yeah.

Like that didn't used to be the case.

You have to like think.

And every time you have to think and solve a problem, you're training that brain muscle.

And I don't think people are training that brain muscle anymore.

I can see that.

Yeah.

Because when I was in school, I was training it often, thinking about problems, but now I'm kind of just looking up stuff on my phone.

Yeah, it becomes a crutch.

Yeah.

You made a video about omega-3s and fish oil.

There's a few vitamins that I swear by.

Fish oil is one of them.

Because it's like, what is proven scientifically that

fish oil is absolutely one of them.

In terms of cardiovascular risk, fish oil is unbelievable.

In terms of brain health, fish oil is unbelievable.

It's one thing that we don't get really consistently from our natural diet unless you're eating a ton of fish.

So that's one thing I think everybody should take.

Vitamin D is another, depending on where you're living.

If you're getting a ton of natural sun, fine.

Most Most people aren't.

When I was working in the hospital, we would test people's blood.

Their vitamin D was low most of the time.

Wow.

People don't realize how important vitamin D is for overall bodily health, for their immune health.

So vitamin D is another one that I supplement.

So Dave Asprey said this about omega-3 fish oil.

He said, if it smells bad, that's the smell of rotting fish.

Is that true?

I don't know.

That's an interesting one.

If it smells like rotting fish, don't take it is what he said.

Yeah.

It's funny.

Most fish oil does smell kind of

kind of nasty and you take it and you burp you're like uh yeah gross it is pretty nasty it's one of the more smelling ones it's uh that's an interesting marketing pitch too because if you're selling a fish oil that's like encapsulated and doesn't smell bad yeah that you want people to think that's the he takes with his coffee right because he says there's no mold in his yeah coffee is mold yeah do you but buy into the um the mold i don't drink coffee and i haven't looked into it but have you looked into that at all mold in the coffee not so much okay and the bulletproof coffee i guess the uh goal there is to take the ketones with the coffee in the morning.

Yeah.

Do you do any of that?

No.

I don't even know what ketones are.

No?

No.

That's another really interesting.

There's so many interesting things in medicine, and people who are all in on certain things will swear by it.

Like ketosis.

I've heard of that.

Yeah.

Yeah, the keto diet, right?

Yeah.

So keto diet, not basically keeping your body in a state of ketosis where it's operating only on ketones, which is where that bulletproof coffee becomes really interesting.

Got it.

Because you can have the coffee and still get the ketones.

And apparently

think your your brain operates on these ketones you're able to think clearer have more energy and it's healthy for your

healthy overall yeah there's a lot of fads in and marketing in the in all the health space like they say this is a superfood and then you find out later it's not even healthy like with kale right i mean kale is a huge trend everybody takes it and then all of a sudden dave asprey comes out and says it's filled with heavy metals and yep now it scares me it scares me i don't eat it i don't eat kale no i used to cook it just straight up fry it and eat it because i thought it it was healthy.

And it's disgusting.

It's pretty gross.

Yeah.

Kale's not a good-tasting vegetable.

But yeah, you have to be really careful with the diet trends and the fad foods.

So many.

And it's all just marketing.

It's all marketing.

Trying to sell their product.

And people who are like all in on their idea that they're right, carnivores versus vegetarians, they will find evidence to support their case.

Oh, yeah.

And it makes it really hard to have an honest discussion or sift through all the of like what actually works.

Yeah.

The best thing is just figure out what works for you.

Try the carnivore diet.

How do you feel?

Track your results.

Track your mental state.

Track your sleep.

Are you thinking clearer throughout the day?

Are you happy?

Are you sleeping better?

Cool.

Maybe, maybe your body works really well in carnivore.

Yeah.

I like to do a little bit of a balance of both.

Red meat, like once a week, chicken a couple times a week, lots of vegetables, lots of fruits.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Asprey does that too.

He cycles different diets.

He said that's the healthiest way of doing it.

Yeah.

Other than vegan, he said.

He said, don't do vegan.

Right.

Look at the Mediterranean's people, the blue, blue zones, people who are living consistently to 100 years old.

That's the closest thing we have to like, okay, they're actually doing this, and they're actually getting results from it.

So it's got, they've got to be on to something.

Yeah.

Speaking of carnivore dwarf, you interviewed Paul Saladino, who recently switched off it.

Did you see that?

No.

Yeah.

Paul Saladino.

Yeah.

Mr.

Carnivore himself is no longer a carnivore.

Changed his username.

He switched off it a couple weeks ago.

Wonder what happened.

Do you have any idea what changes?

He had to do a Health test that he took and something was off, if I had to guess.

He was one of the guys that, I mean, you're following these like 50s or so doctors and like, oh, he looks pretty good.

He looks great.

Yeah.

He's ripped.

He seems really energetic.

It's interesting to see them change perspectives like that.

I was surprised.

Something serious must have happened to change his opinion.

He was known for it, man.

He was known for it.

His whole, I mean, that was his whole shtick.

Yeah, Carnivore MD, right?

Yeah, that's his whole shtick.

But I respect that, too, because science science is ever-evolving.

It's not perfect.

So if you see something that makes you change your opinion, good on him for changing it and not sticking to his guns.

Because it's much easier for him to just lie and say, yeah, if I can keep going, carnivore, keep eating meat.

Yeah.

Than to say, guys, I was wrong.

And maybe you should throw some vegetables in there every now and then.

Yeah, I'm better.

We were talking off-camera about this Muse headband.

Medical technology, we could start with the Muse.

The Muse headband is a portable EEG, electroencephalogram.

It's not sponsored by Muse.

It's something that I use quite frequently.

You wear it around your head, and it's got all of these different detectors to read your brain waves, just like those giant EEGs do.

So you're actually able to look on your phone and see your brain waves in real time.

And where I think this is really important in the way that I use it is guided meditation.

So when you're meditating, a lot of times you don't know if you're getting better.

And this gives you real-time feedback to say, I'm doing a good job or i'm not doing a good job and it allows you to track your your changes in like brain waves over time so when you're going to the gym and say you're doing bicep curls and you're doing it for a year and you say all right i started at 15s now i'm doing 30s this is progress meditation is not really like that people don't know how their brain is changing and evolving over time.

So this is a way to bring that data right to your fingertips and it gamifies meditation.

That's cool.

Yeah, because you're actively looking at this.

You're like, oh, I'm doing a good job.

Like, I won.

I did better than last time.

So it makes it a lot more fun too.

I might try that because I stopped meditating because I couldn't see the results.

This allows you to see the results.

Yeah, I'm very results driven.

Me too.

I'm data-driven, and I like to

make it a game.

If I don't know if I'm doing it well or getting better, then I'm probably not going to keep doing it.

Right.

But if you have a way to track your progress, get better, make it a game, it makes it a lot more attainable.

I love that.

Do you track your sleep too?

Yeah.

So I used to wear the wearables, the aura ring and the whoops.

I don't wear any wearables anymore.

The eight sleep mattress, have you heard of this thing?

The new one, right?

Ultrapod 4?

I don't have the 4.

I saw the 4 just came out.

It looks awesome.

I have the three.

Huge fan of the 8 sleep.

Wow.

The way that it modulates your body temperature throughout the night and tracks your sleep.

So I don't have to sleep with a ring on or a whoop.

I just know how I slept.

And I actually, when I first got it, I compared the two.

I'm like, there's no way this bed is going to give me the same quality of data as something that's sitting on my finger.

And it does.

Wow.

It was spot on for like five nights in a row.

So I'm like, screw this ring.

I don't need it anymore.

The only thing I was using it for was sleep.

I might have to get one of those then.

The eight sleep?

100%.

Reach out to them.

They just started like an affiliate program.

Oh, nice.

Sponsorship program.

So they sent me another bed.

What?

Yeah.

You got a whole bed?

Yeah.

I just gave it to my business partner because I had already bought one.

So I might have sent it.

Because that shit's like $6,000.

Yeah.

I think I paid like three and a half just for the cover on my king bed.

And the cover's fine.

I'm shocked how cold it gets because it works just by flushing water in and out of these channels to cool you down or to warm you up.

Wow.

So you're like, how cold can it actually get?

How hot can it actually get?

Turn this thing all the way up or all the way down and you will be mind blown at how cold and how hot it gets.

Wow, that's exciting.

It goes from negative 10 to plus 10.

I usually fluctuate in my settings from like negative two to plus two because anything more than that, I'm like, I'm too cold or I'm too hot.

Wow.

It's cool sleep temperature is important actually i was listening to this on a podcast it is as you go through different sleep cycles your body temperature changes yeah and it can wake you up so if your mattress can modulate your temperature then yeah it will keep you asleep and improve the quality of your sleep interesting what other technology excites you for health stuff uh the p emf so pulse electromagnetic frequency technology i have a 50 000 pulse xl machine in my apartment uh so that one excites me a lot for a few reasons.

If you're someone who has an injury and is trying to recover, one of the biggest limiting factors to you being able to recover is getting good blood flow to that area where you were injured.

The pulse shoots electromagnetic pulses through your body to improve circulation at various areas in your body.

So I use it usually on my back and on like my neck and head.

And this thing energizes me and helps me

heal faster.

But I mostly use it for performance.

so I'll use this thing for a few minutes every night I sleep better I'm able to wake up more energized so this is I think going to be transformative specifically for people with injuries wow will the cheaper models be as effective because 50k is a lot for most people there's a higher dose mat it's around 1k okay I have a couple of those sprinkled throughout my house too

they're probably not going to be as effective it's like what kind of dose do you want The dose that you're getting is the dose of electromagnetic pulses into your body.

The stronger and more frequent those doses, the more circulation you'll have.

The lower quality mats will still give you that.

But if you're trying to treat a major injury, you can usually access these at like your local PT place

or if you want to like rent one, you can do that.

If you have a major injury, I'd recommend getting one with a clinical dose.

If you're just trying to use this to improve your sleep, improve your day-to-day function, then like a $1,000 higher dose mat will do a great job too.

It's also got built-in infrared, which is a great piece of technology.

You were telling me you do infrared?

Infrared sauna, yeah.

Yeah.

Anyone who's not exercising consistently and is still trying to get the cardiovascular benefits of exercise, there's nothing better than infrared sauna.

Wow.

Studies out of, I think it was Sweden,

showed the infrared saunas was almost as good as exercise for cardiovascular health.

Crazy.

Every day, though.

Every day, I think was like 20, 30 minute sessions, which is a lot.

I could see it because I play basketball and I feel like I'm in shape just from the infrared sauna.

Yeah.

Well, you're also playing basketball a couple times a week.

Well, yeah, twice a week, but that's all I do.

Yeah.

You know, I don't lift.

I don't do any running on the side and I'm still able to run 40 minutes a game.

No problem.

Basketball is a really physically intensive sport.

I didn't realize how out of shape I was until I recently went out onto the basketball court.

I ran, I played one game and I'm like, I need to take a break.

Wow.

Yeah, not good.

I used to be a, I played professional sports for a long time.

So I used to play basketball all day, play volleyball all day.

Easily.

Yeah, when you're not running for a while, because running is boring.

Yeah.

I lift pretty consistently, but that's not the same as cardiovascular health.

So I think everybody should do some kind of cardiovascular sport.

I need to take my own advice on that and either start saunaing consistently or take up basketball.

Absolutely.

Running is super boring, but I actually might start sprinting.

I love sprinting.

I've been looking into studies on sprinting.

Yeah.

Anything that takes you back to like primal exercises, I think is awesome.

Like run away from a tiger.

Just like short bursts of aggressive action, I think are awesome for your body.

Yeah, testosterone increase just from sprinting too.

Hey, I believe it.

Totally believe it.

Especially if you take it back to like caveman days.

Does it make sense when you were

in the cave, like running from tigers?

If it makes sense, then yeah, it's probably healthy to do.

Your body's probably designed to do that and to benefit from that.

Interesting.

So you think we have a lot of biological impulses still?

I do.

And I think you can relate a lot of our dietary restrictions and stuff to

like primitive humans as well.

Interesting.

Like the processed foods, you're saying?

Yeah, processed foods, vegetables, fruits, nuts, meats, all of those things that we were eating back then is what we were adapted to process and to do well with to stay healthy.

So it makes sense that those things now are what makes us healthy.

And the things that are killing us are the things that weren't accessible back in the caveman days.

So the liver king is on to something.

He might be.

He's on something, as he admitted.

That's a go on.

Yeah, I don't think I'll ever do steroids

steroids and trt is like a fine line right trt testosterone replacement therapy therapy for men is essentially steroids you're taking testosterone and steroids are testosterone there's lots of different variations that people take

i think they become dangerous when you're at superhuman levels of testosterone like liver king he's probably living at like two three thousand holy tests crap yeah look at him he's a testosterone machine yeah that's the highest i've ever heard people are crazy people are living at really superhuman levels, and it's hard to stay there, and there's a lot of downstream negative effects to that.

Yeah.

But I'll never take steroids.

It might be a dangerous

age.

At this age.

Yes.

Maybe when I'm older, like you said, testosterone starts dropping.

I would consider it if it's super low.

Yeah, track your tea.

Yeah.

Track it every couple of years.

You're still young, so you're probably, it's probably not going to change too much.

But yeah, once I turn like 40, 50, and I start to see my natural tea levels dropping, I will absolutely get on some TRT.

Yeah.

For now, I'm doing it holistically, but we'll see if that's sustainable.

And it should always be a factor.

You're always going to want to eat right.

You're always going to want to lift.

All of these things increase your tea.

Herbal supplements can go a long way.

Keeping the nasty things out of your diet, the PFAs, the microplastics, as long as you do all those things and continue to do them.

But even with those things, you'll still see your natural testosterone levels drop.

Wow.

That's scary.

Yeah, I'm so young.

You've got years.

Yeah, I'm so young.

It hasn't started yet, but we'll see.

You said at 30, it starts dropping?

40.

40?

Oh, okay.

And everyone's different.

I mean, that's

a vague line for when I plan to start really looking at it aggressively and doing something about it.

But I tested recently.

I'm still in like the mid-700s.

Nice.

Yeah, I'm on herbals.

I feel good.

So until then, there's no reason to get on something.

Yeah.

Because once you're on it, you're on it.

If it decreases your fertility, I still want to have kids.

So there's a lot of things that people don't consider.

They just want to feel good.

They want to get buff.

But it's not worth reaching for the needle just yet yeah what do you think about this reverse aging movement where you can age at 0.75x for every year

i love the movement i love the way technology is going um it's hard to decipher how much of it's and how much it's not a lot of it's just utilizing a lot of the latest technologies a lot of the latest medications

but i think a lot of it's bs And a lot of people are reaching for the fancies and they're not doing the eat they're not doing the

most important stuff like eating well like exercising like staying off of medications that are going to hurt you those are like the low-hanging fruit that most people ignore but they're going to reach for pemf and peptides and all this other fancy stuff that's supposed to stop their aging whereas brian johnson's got the right idea like sleep diet those are the fundamentals those are the building blocks of everything else And then the fancy stuff is to get you the last 5%.

But yeah, sleep's so important, right?

He's scoring 100 for six months straight, which is unheard of.

Unreal, and I'm a pretty good sleeve.

I'm usually in the 90s consistently, I'll get a hundred every now and then.

Six months at a hundred is absurd.

Well, you have to sleep at the same time, wake up at the same time, blackout curtains, you can't do it.

Not introduced anything into your body, no caffeine, no Adderall, nothing.

Yeah, his last meal is at one, right?

1 p.m.

Yeah, he eats super early.

Yeah, it's a, it's, it's a hard life to live.

I mean, he's doing it as a science experiment.

It's not, he's not telling everybody to go live like that, but I think if anyone's going to hack aging, it's him.

He wants to achieve immortality.

I don't know about that.

We'll see.

We'll see about immortality.

Yeah.

There's some things that I think could get us to 150, 200.

Yeah.

Well, if cloning comes out for humans, you could just figure out how to transfer your consciousness, I guess.

And there you go.

I don't know if we're ever going to get there.

I don't want to say never, but transfer your consciousness is so out.

I mean, we still don't know anything about the brain.

Yeah, we're far away from that, I'd say.

Specifically with the brain.

It's a blue ocean up there.

we know nothing right so transferring consciousness that's that's far away but elon i mean he's he's making headway what they're able to do with neuralink i would have said was impossible five years ago wow yeah it's it's pretty incredible so we're evolving fast that's exciting yeah they're able to take brain waves and just like look at all right what's happening electrically and create images out of it create actions out of it crazy so if you can do that then maybe you can transfer consciousness one day we'll see if it's in our lifetime would you if you could would i transfer mine no i think we're here for a set time accomplish what we need to and i don't know that's a whole nother debate on what happens after death but that's what i believe in this life at least only

get one shot would i transfer my consciousness yeah really yeah to what i don't know if it's gonna still be me which is the a different question yeah i think where it would be cool is i can hand my grandkids Grandpa Jay's consciousness and

can interact with the grandkids.

They can get the wisdom out of me.

I can still like continue teaching and learning and growing okay after death so i would do something like that where it's transferred to a computer and then it could ask questions right but i wouldn't want to live in another body with my same consciousness so that's the question like is it living i'd like to talk to someone else who transferred their consciousness and see is it

do you feel like you you know are you you think you're human yeah it'd be interesting i would especially if another human that'd be awesome there's some cool shows out there with like interesting concepts of what that would look like yeah i 100 would so you would redo your your life?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Really?

Or extend it?

If you're transferring consciousness and you're able to live to be thousands of years old in different bodies.

Yeah.

I would 100% do that.

Wow.

You would be very wise with all that knowledge.

You'd be wise.

I don't think I'd get bored.

Actually, that's a different question because I think our threshold for stimulation has changed so much.

It has.

I'd probably be so bored.

Actually, yeah, for a thousand years.

Partying, going to...

I'm bored of partying in this life.

Right.

Women, drugs, for thousands of years.

So, what do you do to achieve stimulation at that point?

Right, because money wouldn't matter because you already have it.

Money wouldn't matter.

So, what would you do?

Sex would be boring.

Partying would be boring.

Drugs would be boring.

Like, what do you do to find fulfillment and meaning in your life?

That'd be tough.

What would you do?

You're 2,000 years old and you've been partying and...

having sex for it'd be tough because anyone you talk to is going to be way lower intelligence so you'd kind of be depressed i feel like yeah it'd be like living with lower beings yeah because after you travel to every city and every country, what else?

You know what I mean?

Maybe I changed my mind.

Maybe I wouldn't want to live or do it until you don't.

I'd like to have the choice.

That'd be cool.

Yeah.

I think that's where

why humans are so obsessed with this because they don't have a choice.

We're just like forced to age and forced to die.

If we could choose when to die,

I think that's the key.

Yeah, that is true because some people really suffer their last years.

So it'd be cool if they had a choice, you know what I mean, to pull the plug.

100%.

Yeah, I think that's neat and well, man, it's been fun.

I didn't think we'd take it it there, but I love this stuff.

Yeah, that was cool.

Anything you want to close off with a promote, man?

Not too much.

So

I went all the way through medical school.

I did a year of training as a family doctor and went into business full-time.

It's been the best decision of my life.

And the reason that I am so still obsessed with medicine is because it translates directly into my ability to perform as an entrepreneur.

So for anyone who's stuck in the nine-to-five, kind of went through the medical route, legal route, and

doesn't love what their life looks like right now, if you're able to take that same work ethic and devote it to something else, that's where amazing things happen.

Absolutely.

Thanks for having me, Sean.

Yeah, thanks for coming on.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.