The SEO King EXPOSED: Shocking Truths About Website Success! I Shane Hernandez DSH #513

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๐Ÿ‘‘ The SEO King EXPOSED: Shocking Truths About Website Success! ๐Ÿ‘‘

In this eye-opening episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Shane Hernandez, the genius behind Simply Fast Websites. ๐Ÿš€ Discover how Shane went from a teenage RuneScape player to mastering the art of SEO and building top-notch websites that don't break the bank.

๐ŸŽฎ Relive the nostalgia of old-school gaming and learn how it unexpectedly paved the way for Shane's incredible journey in the digital world. ๐Ÿš€

๐Ÿ’ก Packed with valuable insights, Shane reveals his secrets to website success, emphasizing the power of geographic targeting and authenticity. ๐ŸŒ Dive into the real stories behind his SEO strategies, the surprising pitfalls of WordPress, and the game-changing tools like Webflow and Wix.

Tune in now to uncover the unfiltered truths about website success from the SEO king himself! Don't miss out on Shane's inspirational journey, from overcoming personal challenges to becoming a top industry expert. ๐Ÿ†

Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. ๐Ÿ“บ Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! ๐Ÿš€

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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - How Shane got into website building
5:36 - Getting arrested for selling pot
14:10 - Tai Lopez
17:56 - Past Lives
24:34 - What is the Best Skill in RuneScape
27:46 - Moving to Vegas
28:54 - Anything you want to promote
29:08 - Thanks for coming on

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I started following him on Facebook and just reached out to him one day and we started talking about websites.

Yeah, and he's like the king of SEO.

Oh gosh, yeah, he's amazing.

What have you learned in terms of SEO tips for websites?

So more or less, it's all about your geographic location and just more or less just being authentic.

Yeah.

I mean, the more authentic you can be, the better off you're going to be.

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And here's the episode.

All right, guys, we got Shane Hernandez, founder of Simply Fast Websites.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Yeah, Sean, beautiful studio.

Thank you.

How's it doing today?

Good, man.

You've been building a lot of sites.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, probably, I'd say between three to five a week.

Damn.

And you started at 13, right?

Yep.

So I actually started building websites more or less when I was 13 years old because I played a game called RuneScape.

Started actually on GeoCities.

I got invited to be the owner of a clan.

And more or less, I started playing around with the color codes and going back and forth on Notepad and just playing around with source codes.

So that's how I got started.

Man, RuneScape was my favorite game going up.

Yeah.

So fun, dude.

I mean, if I played it now, I'd probably think it's boring.

Sure.

Because it's just so.

like almost mindless yeah woodcutting making fish but but uh, RuneScape was good, man.

Well, you know what it was, is so back in those times, like more or less, like, RuneScape was advanced for its time.

If you really think about it, like, what did you have back then?

You had like World of Warcraft, EverQuest, and you know, RuneScape, you just hop on your computer, get it right up on your browser, and it was right there.

Yeah, I like that it was in browser because I didn't have a fast computer back then, so I couldn't download anything in advance.

Yeah, and that's basically what we did, too.

Like, back in the day, like, our friends and us would put together computers and whatnot to play.

So,

absolutely, It was a lot cheaper back then to build your own.

Oh, yeah.

Way cheaper, but now it's almost the same.

I heard.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, now you go to Walmart, you pick up a laptop for 300 bucks if you really want to.

They got gaming PCs at Costco now.

Yeah.

I just saw a video.

They have a cyber power PC there for a thousand bucks.

Wow.

Pretty nuts, man.

Times are changing.

So you built a relationship with Dennis Yu.

Yeah, actually.

So I've been following Dennis.

I heard him on a podcast several years back.

I forget whose.

It might be brad lee's but i'm not positive um and i started following him on facebook and well just reached out to him one day we started talking about websites so yeah and he's like the king of seo oh gosh yeah he's amazing what have you learned in terms of seo uh tips for websites uh so more or less it's all about your geographic location and just more or less just being authentic yeah i mean the more authentic you can be the better you're off you're gonna be absolutely and how much uh do you charge for websites uh so our starting price price is $179.

It's cheap.

Yeah.

So what I noticed, I've been building websites now professionally for eight years.

So basically going back,

we used to use WordPress and then we used Webflow for a little while.

Reason we use Webflow is because you didn't have to update the plugins.

But what I noticed with the market, there's a lot of small business owners out there.

that were paying like $1,000 to $20,000 for a website and they couldn't afford those prices.

So I found it Simply Fast websites to do just the opposite.

Literally, help these guys win.

Yeah, I've gotten some hilarious quotes.

I'll email you them.

I think one guy wanted 20,000.

Wow.

No, no, no.

I've gotten 10K quotes, 5K.

And I don't even need anything crazy.

Yeah.

Like, I just need two pages for a digital social hour.

Well, I told you the other day I'd help you out.

So, yeah, I appreciate that.

Yeah.

No, it's pretty crazy what some of these people are charging, though.

Yeah,

it doesn't even help the business owner.

That's the thing.

No.

Like, you can build a website, but I tell people a website is like opening up a McDonald's out in the middle of nowhere.

What I mean by that is if you don't market it properly, I mean, properly, what's going to end up happening is nobody's going to go there and that McDonald's is going to go out of business.

Yeah.

And that's the same thing with your website.

You can build a nice website, but if you don't tell anybody about it and you're not marketing it properly, you're never going to get any business.

Yeah.

People think they just build a nice site and then it'll get views and business.

No, it's not like that anymore.

No, not at all.

So many pages on Google now.

i don't even pop up when you google sean kelly wow

isn't dennis helping you with that though i need his help yeah we're supposed to do some a google panel i gotta get that going do you have a google panel uh so that's something that i want to work on soon yes yeah yeah because that pops up that nice little box makes you look legit yeah well so something cool about our brand actually uh if you type in fast websites on google yeah and dennis actually reached out to me and told me this we appear number one in the whole world holy crap for fast websites yeah dude And now a next-level moment brought to you by ATT Business.

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That is the best SEO I've ever heard of.

Oh, is that cool?

That's such a like commonly searched thing.

It probably has like millions of search results.

Yeah.

I mean, no, it's,

I've looked it up.

It's about 600 a month.

600,000?

No, no, just 600.

What?

Yeah.

For fast websites?

No way.

Yeah.

Only 600.

Brands that are like paying to be there, like web flow and whatnot.

And like, you see them pop up all the time.

And I'm like, wow, I'm just automatically there.

Yeah.

I can't believe it's that low, dude.

Yeah.

600?

Dude, I feel like I've searched that.

Yeah.

I'm one of those 600.

Well, we've gotten leads from it.

So, I mean, you know.

Yeah.

Getting a job at Mercury Marine.

What is that about?

Yeah.

So basically, all right, I'm going to take you back several years, 2022.

I dropped out of high school as a kid.

I was a bad kid.

I sold pot and it got raided by the meg unit when I was 22 years old.

Same mile.

Oh, crap.

So I'm sitting there on the couch and all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom at my door.

And I look out the window and there's a couple black trucks couple cops at the door and i look at my buddy i'm like dude put your hands up we're about to get raided

um so they came in and i'd quit selling pot right before that oh so you didn't have any on you no i realized what i was doing was wrong and it was more or less like like i quit and they didn't find anything on me but uh i took a job actually traveling the country selling magazines after that because They wanted me to tell on everybody and I wasn't going to tell on anybody.

I'm like, no.

So took a job traveling the country selling magazines and while i was doing that one day i just woke up and i'm like dude you know what you need to grow up you're 22 years old get a real job go back turn yourself into jail so i went back turned myself into jail i spent like a week in jail until the court was over they put me on a deferred prosecution deal and part of my deal was i had to get a real job

so i got a job at mercury marine um a guy named chuck heiling shout out to chuck um actually saw me as like his kid and decided he was going to hire me.

Nice.

He'll give me a chance.

Wow.

So you must have been pushing volume for the mega unit to pull up on you.

Oh, yeah.

Damn.

Yeah.

I had the whole city buying for me.

Holy crap.

A lot of entrepreneurs start off with weed dealing.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

I'm one of them.

I wasn't at your level, though.

Yeah, no.

Well, it started off because I needed some money.

But, you know, my guy at the time gave me an ounce and I sold that within like a couple hours.

Wow.

Yeah.

So you were great at networking back then very good yes i've always been a talker like i'm the type you know like typically i can get out there and talk with anybody like when i'm talking on the phone i'm literally pacing back and forth these clients and i tell them that too i'm like dude if you saw me right now i'm like back and forth looking out the window you know just i do the same thing yeah i can't sit on a phone call i got to be moving yeah it gets your brain thinking yeah it really does yeah opens up like that creative flow yeah what'd your parents think when you got arrested oh my mom was very disappointed Did she know you were dealing?

No.

Yeah.

No, my mom, my mom's always been a very straight lady.

Like, she's amazing.

Like, you know, she was always there for us as kids and whatnot.

So.

Yeah.

I just did it to get by.

I wasn't planning on making millions off it.

Yeah.

I feel like the risk to reward wasn't there.

Well, that's what it was for me, too.

I started making all that money and I'm like, dude, you got to quit.

And thankfully.

Thankfully, I quit right before I got raided.

Yeah.

So you would have been

screwed, I think.

Yeah.

You got caught caught within.

I don't think they planted the five grams they found to get me to talk.

Because I'm like, five grams, it goes 1.7, 3.5.

You know, I still remember the math, you know, from years ago.

Yeah.

Five grams.

That's like nobody has five.

Yeah, that's no one has that.

It's either an eighth or a gram.

Yeah.

Or maybe what's in between that?

Seven grams was

quarter ounce.

Quarter.

Quarter, yeah.

But yeah, but no one has five.

That's so random.

That's what I'm like,

I'm like, you obviously planted this to try to get me to talk.

Yeah, yeah.

But I wasn't going to talk to him.

I'm like, no.

They planted some on my brother-in-law.

Really?

Yeah, he had to go to court and he won.

Wow.

Because the guy got caught planning on other instances, too.

Wow.

It's so messed up.

So I just realized I did wrong.

And, you know, I got through everything.

Yeah.

And you didn't snitch?

Nope.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's a real one, man.

I got the owner, the

boss of the Philly mob coming on next week.

Oh, wow.

Joey Merleno.

Oh, that's cool.

And he didn't snitch either.

Wow.

So he would respect you, man.

Yeah.

That's a real one right there.

You don't have to meet him.

Yeah, if you're still in Zom, man.

So what are some common mistakes you see on people's websites?

Oh, gosh.

So mobile optimization being one of the biggest ones.

Another one, I hate to say it.

A lot of people love WordPress, but if you don't update those plugins, your website can get hacked.

It can get shut down.

Links won't work.

That's another big thing, too.

I don't know.

Sometimes, you know, like with colors and whatnot looking right.

So like, you know, know, sometimes like you look at like the words on a page and you're like, I can barely read that.

What do you think of Squarespace?

So, Squarespace, actually, more or less, they just, they just bought out Google Domains.

So, I actually use Wix for everything that I use now.

I'm thinking about switching because I'm on there now, but I don't know if I like it.

Squarespace.

So, for many years, when you go to Google Domains, it was $12 a year.

Now, with Squarespace, if I remember correctly, I think they still offer the $12 for the first year.

But after that it goes up to i think it's twenty dollars a year dude so all my clients now i basically just set them up through wix they'd be taxing me on those email domains oh my gosh what are you paying i don't even know they charge me 200 a month for like 10 i think wow yeah crazy just for an email yeah isn't that crazy not even a site wow i mean it's a ripoff right email should be like five well I always tell people too, because like people are like, oh, what do I got to pay a hosting, you know, charge for?

And I'm like, hosting is basically how the internet works.

I mean, it's all run off of servers, supercomputers.

Yeah.

So you're basically paying for your electricity to keep your website online.

Absolutely.

I used to be obsessed with page speed scores when I was in e-commerce because it would affect your conversion rate.

Well, so my old partner, Justin Sobojinski,

same way.

Just like big into that, like optimizing all the photos and whatnot, compressing everything.

Yep.

Making things just work.

Dude, it matters a lot, especially if you're selling a lot.

Because I remember I went from like commerce, yeah.

Yeah, I went from like a 69 to a 90 out out of 100 and my conversion rate went up by 1% or something.

Is that crazy?

Something crazy.

Which 1% could be hundreds of thousands of dollars, potentially millions.

Wow.

Don't mind me asking you a question.

What did you do in e-commerce?

I sold jerseys.

All right.

Sports apparel.

Yeah.

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Which sport?

Just all of them?

Football.

Football was Giants growing up.

I grew up in Jersey.

Yeah, so I was a big Giants fan.

Wow.

Caught two Super Bowls, and now we suck.

What about you?

Green Bay Packers.

Ooh.

Yeah.

Had some good runs.

Oh, this last year was amazing.

Yeah.

Dude, Jordan Love's going to do good.

You guys got a real chance to be back in the mix.

Yeah.

But the Niners are so good.

It's tough.

Yeah.

Well, we got a young team, so we got a lot of room to grow.

Yeah.

So I'm not too big into into football, but like I know enough to, you know.

No, I don't watch.

I haven't watched a full game in like 10 years.

Wow.

I used to watch all the Giants games, but it's so slow.

Sure.

They need to implement a clock or something.

Wow.

Well, I know they have a clock, but it just feels so slow.

I like basketball more.

Sure.

Do you follow NBA?

Not really, no.

March Madness typically every year, but this year I didn't fill out a bracket.

Oh, well, so I still work full-time weekends at Merck Marine.

And then I run the business during the week.

So it's literally seven days a week.

Damn.

Yeah.

So you're working seven days a week, like 12 hours a day?

I've been out in Vegas the last couple of days and literally taking meetings right away in the morning.

So it's not even a vacation for you.

Yeah, you're working.

It still is.

This has been like a culture shock because I'm not used to being in Vegas.

Yeah.

Been here before.

Which hotel are you at?

We were at Planet Hollywood.

Okay.

Yeah, there's some good spot, good food spots out here, a lot to do.

Yeah, we were talking about that in the back, actually.

And more or less, like all day yesterday, like literally like every restaurant.

Like, I had to, I stopped at like 10 different restaurants.

Yeah, holy crap,

10 restaurants, Mongolian-like restaurants.

Um, stopped at this pizza shop.

We stopped at uh, uh,

what's that burger enjoy, Jackie?

Herves,

where was it?

Um,

you know, I'm talking about that, yeah,

gel station.

Oh, husky, that's Gordon Ramsey's.

Yep, yeah, how was that?

I've never been there.

Oh, gosh, that was amazing.

Did you have a burger?

Yeah, nice.

Yeah, I've seen the the videos.

I need to try it out.

Gordon Ramsey's a dream guest for me.

Yeah.

I might have to go there and post a story and maybe he'll see it.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, that's a powerful thing.

We've had some pretty big names on here.

Yeah, I'm getting there, man.

It's like a snowball effect.

Well, you know, it's kind of crazy.

So you had Ty Lopez on here.

Yeah.

And back in 2016, I actually joined his, me and Justin, both of us, actually.

We joined his social media marketing academy.

Oh, nice.

Yep.

And that's what kind of got me back into the website scene.

Well, so I was working full-time weekends at Merck, and I had a coworker that started building websites.

And he goes, Shane, you just bought into this course.

Do you want to relearn how to build websites?

So he taught me how to build on Elementor.

So we started building on Elementor.

And yeah, shortly after, we didn't want to do the plug-in updates anymore.

And Webflow came around.

And, you know, well, I should say it was, you know, up and coming at that point.

And yeah, we switched to WebFlow.

And then shortly after that, I'm like, you know what?

Most business owners want a website that is professional that's going to help them sell their products yeah and a lot of them are getting way over you know way overcharged so i started building on wix just because it was faster but i could still build a very professional website on wix so that's the reason we you know we're building on wix now i love the yeah tai's like the the guru goat like he started the movement man I know I saw I saw that yet him on your podcast like whoa yeah

no he he for real same with me though I used to watch all his courses wow I mean he was really the first guy to really bring online education to entrepreneurs.

I feel like yeah, well here in my garage

classic I used to get I used to hate that ad.

I used to get it every day.

Yeah.

I mean literally like 20 times a day.

Well, that's what it was too.

Like he had that ad.

He's like make one to $10,000.

And I'm like, that's a lot of money.

Yeah, he was one of my favorite guys.

He's super smart, man.

It's kind of crazy, but you know, instead of doing that, I just started building websites.

Yeah.

Well, it's a necessity if you're an online business.

So

not even just online.

I feel like every business needs a site at this point.

Yeah, even restaurants have sites now.

Wow.

Yeah, I book restaurant reservations on websites.

Well, that's what I tell people.

I'm like, look, like, so one of my favorite things to explain to people, like business owners, like when I'm talking with them, I'm like, all right, so you're a tree service.

If my ash tree in my, in my yard, like fell over right now, first thing I'm doing, I'm not worried about everybody else that chops down trees.

I'm worried about the first person that's going to come here and help me get rid of this.

And then I'm going to call the roofing company because it fell on my house.

And I'm going right to Google and typing in roofers near me.

I'm going to, you know, Google and I'm typing in tree service near me.

100%.

So it's important to rank high on those searches.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's how I hire my cleaning companies.

Yeah, isn't that crazy?

Yeah, if they're close and the reviews are good, the reviews are important for me.

Oh, gosh, yeah.

I don't go anywhere under a four

for restaurants.

Well,

that's the thing about it, and that's the thing about us is we pride ourselves in the work that we do because, like, yeah, we've not had one dissatisfied client ever.

Wow.

Not one refund.

So we had somebody recently, but she wasn't our typical like construction or landscaping business that we work with.

Yeah.

She actually did Reiki and we thought we had to be all artsy, but she actually came to us.

She didn't came.

She didn't come to us because

like.

She didn't come to us for that.

She came to us because we build really clean websites.

And we brought her this website and we thought it was good.

And she goes, I hate to tell you this, but I think it's horrible.

And I'm like, and I, I'm like, Katie, I'm like, look, I will never launch a website until you are fully satisfied.

Yeah.

So, like, we went back in, we took our time, and we fully, like, like, I'm talking like we revamped that whole website and now she loves it.

That's great service, man.

Yeah.

Well, that's just how I am as a person.

Like, I'm never going to, I'm never going to sell you something that, you know, is not going to help you.

Yeah.

Reiki, yeah.

Those people are probably pretty honest spiritual people.

Oh, yeah.

She was cool.

I have on a ton of those on the show, actually.

Really?

Yeah.

Do you you believe in any of that stuff?

So, so.

I do believe in God.

Yeah.

And I do believe that we're energy.

And I don't know where we go after we die, but that's a million-dollar question right there.

So I had a client

back with my old business.

And he actually owned the Habitat for Humanity in Ohio.

Oh, nice.

And he sent me a book, Many Lives and Many Masters by Brian Weiss.

And that was a good book.

I haven't heard of that one.

So basically,

he talks about like a hypnotherapist that puts people under and they talk about their past lives

i've tried that uh did it work uh so i tried it three times first one and granted it's different for each every person so the first time it didn't work second time it didn't work third time it worked wow but it's all like kind of i feel like it's on the person almost like i was trying to force it those first two times and the third time i just let it happen sure yeah so what do you think happens to us when we die?

Like, do you think that we're reincarnated?

Yeah, I do believe in that.

All right, cool.

Yeah, I don't think you get to, there is this theory that you get to pick like your life, sure.

So, I'm looking more into that, but I don't know if it's as easy as that.

He gets into all that in that book.

Like, I always tell people, I'm like, if there's one book I recommend you read, because like John, like, John goes, Shane, you got to read this book, it'll change your life.

And I'm like, all right, so I read it, and it's like maybe like a 120, 130-page book.

Yeah.

And I read it.

I'm like, whoa,

just opened up my mind to like a whole new world yeah if you want to do it dude my girl's here in vegas so i can schedule an appointment for you yeah it's pretty crazy i don't know that's that's like kind of scares me a little bit it scared me

scared me too because you get some uh i don't know if you know any people that are dead but you get some messages too really yeah it's pretty insane yeah so you got to be like kind of ready for what's coming yeah and i don't know like Because for me, I like seeing like physical proof or facts or data.

But I'm also open to this kind of stuff because multiple people that don't even know each other recount the same scenarios so yeah isn't that crazy well then really when it all comes down to it we're energy everything everything is energy yeah there's certain people you meet without even talking to them you could feel their energy yeah

like you just know if it's going to be a good meeting or not before you even talk to them definitely yeah we all got someone that has negative energy in our lives too that brings you down yeah Sometimes it's your own family.

Oh, yeah.

I've met plenty over the years, you know.

Well, you know what I did?

Several years back, I just made this decision.

I'm like, dude, I'm going to stay away from anybody that ever brings me down like that.

Like, I literally surround myself with my fiancรฉ, my business partner, and basically that's really it.

That's all you need.

Yeah, keep it on one hand is what I tell people.

Yeah.

When you try to get too many friends, like it doesn't work, dude.

Yeah.

When you have like 50 friends.

Because I tried to people please in high school, try to be friends with everyone, but no one cares about you at that point.

Oh, you just need, you just need a few close people.

Well, that's how I was growing up, too.

like so believe it or not like elementary school i i was liked by everybody like i was that kid that was cool but then i started playing rune scape and dude i'm telling you like i nerded off bad i was a big pker you know oh you were that kid all right so funny story about runescape um i actually met paul gower um back i think 2003.

So back when people were duplicating rune items all the time.

Yeah.

And rune two hands were still like a million gold.

Somebody gave me, God, I want to say, I forget, like 50,000 lobster certs, and I was an instant millionaire.

I'm having drop parties, you know, throwing party hats around, but party hats then were like a thousand, you know, GP a piece.

Yeah, um, but I was dropping rune two hands, which were the most valuable item in the game then.

And I made like a big, you know, big name for myself around the game there for a little bit.

And I'm at uh, well, I always call it Karajarma, the volcano fighting lesser demons.

And all of a sudden, my whole computer froze.

And next thing you know, I'm in a room, and there's like no way out.

Wow.

Like, whoa, what happened?

Because I had always heard about like the black hole and whatnot, and that disc of no return

or disc of return, whatever it's called.

Um, all of a sudden, a guy appears, and I'm like, Oh my god, it's Paul.

So they start questioning me about where I got the certs from, and they cleared out my bank.

I became friends with them on RuneScape for a little bit there.

Yeah, what the hell?

That is a crazy story.

Holy crap!

Did you ever do the Clan wars um i did for a little bit but like like i said like i quit probably 2005 2006 ish yeah so that's early yeah i feel like i i played in middle school so what is that like 2010 maybe sure yeah so you probably quit before i started yeah i was long gone by then yeah don't get me wrong for the nostalgia like sometimes i'll log back in here and there dude that background music is the best of all time i'm not even kidding i could still hear it in my head right now yeah isn't that crazy dude such a good game so what i did like when mobile came out i went back and created like my ultimate pure well i got tricked not too long ago and i got four defense now but how'd you get tricked some guy i forget his name like 99 buttholes or something

so i don't know if i can say that on here but i think he's like a popular like youtuber yeah and he came through and he gave me something that like basically like raised my defense

and me being like you know old school you know i was at sand crabs that day Me being old school, like, I barely even knew what sand crabs were.

Yeah.

So all of a sudden, I'm at three defense and I, you know, I'm just, you know, away from the computer.

Ah, that's rough.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I was pissed.

What is the best skill in RuneScape, in your opinion?

Well, honestly, mining.

Reason be it.

So I grew up PKing.

So what I would do.

I'd sit out at the rune rocks and mine ores and then PK while I did that.

So I got to 85 mining just so i could mine the rune and you know go home

you were a beast man i never got an adrenaline rush too of like trying to get away from these guys if they were trying to kill you yeah

oh great great memories doing the ladder uh little juke out climb the ladder and juke them out on the way up uh did you play classic at all like the first rune scape i don't know if i played the first one i i know the new one kind of sucked right all right uh yeah i i've never played that one that's that one just like yeah so i feel like i did start on the new on the old one then yeah runescape too or I think so.

Right before the grand exchange came out, it's kind of when I started.

All right, cool, cool.

Yeah, but man, I never PvP'd, I wasn't good enough.

Sure, you had to know your man.

Well, back in those days, you couldn't run.

It was like you had this special thing they called it catching, and you'd have to like double-click ahead of the person and get them really quick.

Holy crap!

Yeah, I was actually pretty good at that.

I mean, during those times, I was 85 combat, you know, so like

pretty high, you know, for those days.

Did you ever lose all your?

Oh, yeah.

Well, that was the worst.

I was trying and fished to get it back.

You know what I do?

The second I die, I go back to fishing and mining for a couple of days and be back to PK.

It took forever to get back because the equipment was so expensive.

Yeah.

And then you add all the gold and the heels, too.

Yeah.

It was rough, man.

What are you working on right now, though, mainly?

Just growing the business.

So more or less, I'm fully trying to like learn SEO.

Like, because that's something that we do not offer yet.

Just because like, so I'll never sell a product or or service that I don't fully know how to do for myself.

I mean, appearing number one for fast websites, Dennis came to me and told me that.

And like, I'm like, I don't even know how I did it.

Probably the longevity, too.

Yeah, well, I think a lot of it has to do with like now, because of the work that we've done.

I literally, every day, I have clients literally referring me across the internet, like, and like all these different groups and whatnot.

And I'm like, all right, cool.

I love that.

But it's a compounding effect.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

Playing any video games still?

Not really, no.

Yeah.

I had to stop for, I took a five-year break.

Wow.

Just started playing Fortnite again.

Wow.

You ever play that one?

No, I did not, actually.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

Were you not an FPS kind of guy, a shooter?

So I played Halo for a couple of years, but that's about it.

But more or less Halo 3, just, you know, with the guys, you know, LAN parties back in the day.

Yeah.

I never played Halo or COD.

Wow.

Yeah.

People think I'm weird for that.

See, I love it.

But that's another thing.

It's like the thrill of it, you know, like when you're trying to run away and like they're shooting at you and you know, you know, you're going to die.

I'd be cracking a stick grenade real quick you know yeah hoping you get them but you know yeah there's uh i know video games get a lot of hate but there's some stuff you could learn from them yeah oh rune scape that's that's what it i learned a lot from rune scape same literally buying selling trading you know so much i i accredit my success in business to rune scape do you really i don't know what percent but it's in there if people ask me that's kind of it's kind of funny because like I kind of do a little bit too.

I mean, for sure.

You learn a lot about even just people skills.

Yeah.

Because you're going back and forth online, you're building real relationships with these people that you've played with for years.

Yeah, I never met up with anyone, but we were definitely tight at certain points.

Yeah.

I've had friends that have done it, but I've never personally either.

Never took the risk.

I didn't want to know that there was some fat six-year-old or something.

I'm good with just keeping your username as it is.

Yeah.

No, otherwise, basically, I'm getting married next year to see

my beautiful fiancรฉ.

Same here.

Yeah.

When's yours?

March 28th of,

yep, March 28th of 2025.

Nice.

November or wait.

I should know this.

October 17th.

Yeah.

Yeah, 2025.

We had planning it early, man.

They were booked out all the next year.

Are you guys doing it here?

In Jersey.

We met in Jersey.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's where you're originally from too, isn't it?

Yeah, Jersey Champs.

That's how it started, man.

You don't mind me asking what made you move out here?

It wasn't planned.

We tried L.A.

because that's what I thought I wanted to do.

Yeah.

And it sucked.

Yeah.

So I would never want to go there.

No.

We literally drove here from L.A.

unplanned.

Wow.

Stayed at the MGM for a month.

Mind you, we have two dogs.

One of them big, like 100 pounds.

What do you have?

A golden retriever and an Australian Shepherd.

Cool.

We actually have a golden doodle.

Nice.

Anything golden is awesome.

So I'm grossed out by drooling boogers.

Like, horribly grossed out.

And she asked one day, she goes, can I get a dog?

And I'm like, all right, nothing bigger than a doodle.

Well, I take Mocha to the dog park every day now.

Like, I think I...

I think I love the dog more than you do.

Like, I sleep with her.

You know, she snucks up in the bed.

What happens when she drools on you uh you know what some if i'm eating i get grossed out but now like like i said like

she's my baby yeah those those golden retriever mounts are so drooly yeah you know yeah

oh man

now i want another one it's kind of sad but it's true i i want three yeah i have two but i would have 10 honestly if i had a backyard yeah if i had a big yard i probably would too yeah i feel bad just keeping them in the house but dude it's been fun anything you want to promote our clothes off with oh not really um just you know if anybody needs a website, feel free to reach out to Shane Michael or find us on Facebook, Simply Fast websites, and that's really it.

Cool.

We'll link below.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Yeah, it was fun.

Thanks a lot, John.

Yeah, thanks for watching, guys.

We'll link his site below if you want a site.

Otherwise, see you tomorrow.