Biggest Fears, Sean Kelly's First Podcast & Moving to America I Joel Brown DSH #423

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thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode all right very special episode guys here today the first podcast i ever went on eight nine years ago joel browns he's the one who got me in this space man i was so nervous i interviewed dude but i really appreciate it man how's it going to do it bro it makes you uh pay attention it's an important moment in your life you're first in anything is that turning point you know it's it's either gonna inspire you to want to do it again and go bigger or you learn from it and say hey you know what i don't know if i'm going to do that anymore yeah that's good because that's new information to work off it's good and at that age i lacked a lot of self-confidence honestly as a teenager and i feel like a lot of guys do around that age so that was good to kind of get me out of my shell a bit dude i appreciate it oh i'm happy that i was a part of that with you bro yeah and you were in the game early man podcasting 10 years ago did you see this industry taking off like it did

I totally underestimated it, to be honest.

I really did not think it was going to go on the trajectory that it did.

When I started, I think

you're looking at like 2013.

I created a website called addicted to success.com about a year or two before that.

We reached, so far, we're at 372 million website views.

Obviously, people don't look at websites as much as they used to.

So our heyday was up until about seven or eight years ago.

Our traffic still runs through the site, but it's not at the level it was.

But what really helped it to to rise to the level that it did was the podcast and i think it's because when people listen to a podcast they feel like they're there with you you know it's crazy i'll be in an event speaking somewhere and someone will come up to me and they're like oh you're you're vegetarian or you're this they'll say something to me and i'm like how do you know and they're like oh episode 26

i'm like wow i didn't even sometimes they'll say things to me that i didn't realize i said because it was on a podcast conversation so it shows you that people are listening to the podcast in their car, going to the gym, running errands, getting ready in the morning.

It's very personal.

And yeah, it's a great way to build rapport with your audience.

Interesting.

I didn't know you were a vegetarian.

Let's dive into that.

Is that for spiritual reasons?

Not necessarily.

No.

When I was seven years old, I went on a school excursion and we went to a dairy farm, right?

And I'm a pretty rebellious person even to this day.

I don't like rules.

I tend to push back on them quite a lot.

It's sort of in my entrepreneurial spirit.

But the teacher said, don't go over there.

We need to stay together as a group.

So me and two of my rebellious friends decided to jump a fence and run over to this other warehouse.

And there was an abattoir, which is a meat house.

And I saw a cow hanging upside down that was like chopped in half.

There was blood everywhere.

I freaked out.

So I came home.

And I said to my mom, why are they killing animals?

And my mom's like, oh, it's for beef.

And I'm like, what's beef?

and she's like that's cow

I'm like well what's pork and she's like that's pig I'm like why do they have different names for it right and it's it's actually a good question right because it's like hey we we change the name of things so we don't associate to it why we're eating it so we're not put off sorry if I put anybody off

this

point yeah but but my mom's like hey you don't need to if you want to you can have vegetarian food I was like well what's that

And at the time she was trying lots of different dishes and she said, well, I can start making things without meat and see how you feel.

So I was that annoying little eight-year-old in a restaurant that would have to ask the chef if they can take chicken out of things or beef out of things.

And to be honest, I'm not as stringent now.

I do have a bit of fish.

So I'm a try-hard vegetarian.

A flexitarian, I guess they call them, or pescatarian.

But

yeah, man, I'm not so...

hardcore with it now.

I I like to yeah, have a little bit here and there.

I feel that it is interesting to see like I was part of that a long time ago.

I was part of the podcast space before that blew up.

So, I don't know, man.

Maybe I'm pushing some curves here, trying to learn things before other people get onto it.

And a lot of that is, like, just timing in general plays a big key in success.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I believe that too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's a little bit of a luck piece.

I'm not very big on thinking everything is going to be built off luck.

I'm not very big on the whole law of attraction thing.

I think that some people have skewed the understanding of it.

But I do believe that you want to match a frequency of what it is that you desire.

But at the same time, I'm a very big advocate for the law of intention, which is set it and get it, right?

You had to do it with your business.

I had to do it with mine.

It's when you write it down, you get clear on it, you absorb your mind into it, you strategize and work out your priorities and you get into action and you just keep forging forward.

Visualization and manifestation, but also actually putting in the work.

Yeah, things manifest when you show up.

And I believe this.

You know, as a saying, you don't get in life what you think you deserve.

You get what you negotiate.

Wow.

And I don't believe that you just negotiate through your words.

You also negotiate through your actions.

So when I'm coaching my clients, sometimes someone will say, yeah, I'm doing this and this and that, and it's not working.

I'm like, you're not negotiating hard enough.

And like, what do you mean?

I've said this and I've posted this content and I've said that.

And I'm like, yeah, but you're not actually showing up and doing the work that that goal requires for you to be in the action of in order to attain it.

And so we revisit it and look at what is your priorities because strategy is just another word for priorities.

And a lot of people now have this thing in their hand, you know, their phone, and they're just so distracted, heavily distracted.

And so their strategies fall by the wayside.

No phone case, man.

That's how I know you're different.

No phone case, man.

Yeah, it's got a few cracks on it, man.

That's what happens.

No, I love that, though.

Sorry to interrupt.

What were you saying?

No, no, I was just saying, like, I think a lot of people nowadays are just

not understanding that it's going to require from you to really be disciplined to stand out from the rest.

Because,

and I know we're probably going to go into this conversation around AI.

I think AI is an incredible tool.

I think there's some really awesome things.

And I also have a concern that we're going to see more and more paroting and more and more copycat behavior.

And so anyone that can practice showing up for real,

They are going to be seen, felt, and understood as somebody that's more authentic in the marketplace.

Yeah.

That is a valid concern, though, because you see students using AI to cheat on their tests and stuff, just copying answers and not actually learning.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think we have an information issue now.

We're at the point where we've transcended the depths of the information age.

We're moving into a very interesting age now.

And

I think that we have an accountability problem.

I think people don't know how to take self-accountability and show up.

Right.

I think discipline is going to be the bigger conversation that comes back in the mix.

Like my granddad, he fought in the wars, right?

In World War II and another war.

And one of my the my other granddad, he fought in the war too.

And I remember my granddad said to me, you're a pussy.

You know, I was this little kid.

I'm like, what do you mean?

And he's like, you don't understand hard work.

You don't understand what it takes.

You know, and he's out there like gardening and growing.

food like fruit and everything and i was just like this guy is just grumpy and old but now i get it i'm like man that he had to be disciplined in those days to support his family and to build what he wanted to build he had to overcome so much more like I can sit behind my laptop and feel comfy on my

whereas he was out there in the trenches and saw some of his best friends get killed in front of him you know what I mean yeah so I don't take that lightly man my

You know grandparents fought for me to be here today if he died off and didn't have my dad I wouldn't be here right and so I really honor that and I think that you know we can can easily get distracted in social media and we can get distracted in comparison.

But when you're focused in your own lane and you have your own vision, you don't get distracted with what everybody else is doing.

And you get to work and you prioritize and you stick to it and you see amazing fruits that comes from the effort.

Absolutely.

Discipline and effort is so key.

And I've noticed it's actually gotten harder because of social media to stay locked in.

Even when I'm working now, I want to check my phone.

I'm like, damn, this is such a bad habit.

But that's what they're programmed to do to you.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

TikTok.

It puts you out too, bro.

I don't know if you, maybe you'll start paying attention to it like I did.

I heard somebody say that you drop off 20% focus every time you look at your social media and try to go back to your task.

You need to spend 20% of the time that it took for you to get into it again to get back into traction.

Wow.

And if you add it up throughout the whole day, you're losing sometimes like an hour or more out of your day of trying to get back into traction.

Damn.

Yeah, it's nuts when you think.

And that's on average average for most people across the world.

Some people are better at putting the phone away and putting it on airplane mode.

I've had to practice it, but I've become aware of it.

And I think self-awareness is a huge key.

I think that people are very poor observers.

They find it very hard to observe themselves or their actions.

That's why it's good to have a coach.

That's why it's good to practice self-accountability.

Because you have somebody there that can spot your blind spots and say, hey, I don't know if you know this, but you've wasted an hour and 20 minutes today on your social media.

Do you you know that?

If that hour and 20 minutes went to two sales calls, you could have brought $10,000 in.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I look at my screen time at least once a month and always find some interesting stuff and waste of safe time there for sure.

When it comes to coaching your students, are there any that stood out to you, powerful lessons you've learned throughout that process?

Yeah, I would say there's definitely a pattern.

When I can support my clients to overcome their procrastination,

I see so many things shift.

And a lot of people think procrastination is a time management issue.

Time is only a very small fraction of it.

And the way I look at time is: time is a calibration of change.

That's all it is, really.

The question is: what change are you creating in the time that you have?

And a lot of people are wasting it, so there's not much change that's happening in their life.

What procrastination is, is this: it's when you're caught between the history and the mystery.

What I mean by that is, if you are stuck worrying about repeating patterns of the past,

or you have a perceived pain of the future, you put things off.

Right?

So if I can bring people back to the present and get them to reconnect with their goals, get them to heal whatever wound is going on within them, whether there's some childhood wound and to this day, it's still like a mirror reflected in the present and they're associating being rejected on social media as being rejected from their father.

If we can heal that and we can bring them back to the present, say, hey, get them to realize today is different.

Today isn't 31-year-old you who just had that massive heartbreak.

You're 38 now, and you're not having to repeat the past.

We can do something different today.

Today isn't the seven-year-old you that was criticized by your mother and told you that you aren't enough or you're good enough, right?

So when people are brought back to the present and then they restructure and they actually can understand

that it's a lie

right because what we have right now in the present is the truth it's just here the the future hasn't happened yet there's no perceived pain yet but we we do that when we fear either rejection or i'm not good enough or failure and mistakes are bad whatever story we tell ourselves it's going to keep us stuck in a procrastination pattern.

So yeah, I have identified there are six procrastination types.

And one is the obsessive idealist, which is like the high achiever, the perfectionist.

Most entrepreneurs are that.

Right?

You have the dreadhead, which is the opposite to the obsessive idealist.

The dreadhead tends to be scared to come out of the comfort zone.

So they just like shrink back in, like turtle back in.

We have the diversion junkie, which chases entertaining distractions in high-pressure times.

We have the stargazer, which they're very good at visions and ideas, but they have millions of ideas, but they don't have a well-thought-out strategy to achieve it.

And we have the Radical Defiant, which is super rebellious, but almost to the point where they can never build a team.

They can never partner with anybody.

They're just trying to do everything themselves, and then they end up getting exhausted because they're constantly trying to do everything themselves.

And then the last one is the Angry Altruist, which is the people pleaser.

Wow.

So you can actually go to doquiz.com.

It takes like three minutes.

It's super quick, nice and easy.

Doquiz.com, and you just take the quiz.

It'll tell you what your type is, and you get a full analysis report on how to be able to repattern that and heal those patterns from childhood or from teenhood.

And you'll start to get into more action.

What made you go so heavily into coaching?

Did you have a coach on your journey and that sort of inspired it?

Yeah, so I built addictedtosuccess.com, right?

At the time, this was like 14 years ago when I started it.

At the time, no one was really creating personal development websites with like how-to articles, you know.

So we crushed that.

We got all the quote articles in there.

All the quotes that you see online now.

We did that back in the day when no one was really doing that.

And

I

really am just a very curious individual.

I used to study people like Michael Jordan.

I know you're into basketball too, bro.

I got this book called Rare Air, which is Michael Jordan's biography.

And I just remember studying it and going, What makes Michael the best?

right

because he's he wasn't as muscly and as big

but he was better than the other players so I was like there's something he knows in his mind you know as a young kid I just was thought like there's something he knows right

and yeah man I've always just been obsessed with personal development but I think the greatest

approach in business and as an entrepreneur or a content creator or an influencer is to create what you would love to create and share that with the world, right?

It's actually quite simple.

A A lot of times people are like, oh, I need to really try and understand this and that about these people and what would be the best money move.

You can insert those things in and test them out.

But what's going to sustain over a long period is what is it that I have such a deep passion and a magnificent obsession for?

And if I love it, there's got to be other people out there that love that too.

And your people will find you, but you've got to keep showing up in it.

So for me, I did that.

And then I got to a point where I started getting asked to speak at events.

And

know, I had my whole fear of public speaking that came up.

The first talk I did at a company, it was like 360 people.

I almost tinned, you know, I did my 20-minute speech at the 16-minute mark.

And then from there,

I realized like, okay, some people in the audience actually enjoyed it.

They got value from it.

And so I decided to go all in with speaking.

And the way that I became a better speaker was working through my own trauma, my own wounds of not feeling good enough, my my Superman complex of trying to do everything myself.

And I just fell in love with the art of transformation.

I wanted to also return the favor to people because other coaches had supported me in that too.

And it was like a patchwork.

You know, I took a little bit from one coach and another coach.

I had a breakthrough when it came to love and relationships, another one healing my...

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Mother and father wound another one around like religious trauma another one around productivity and I just pieced them together and I went cool I think I want to support people to do this.

Wow.

So I genuinely love coaching.

I'm not just calling myself a coach.

I love the art and craft of coaching and I train coaches.

You know, I've trained over 200 coaches that have been certified through me.

Dang.

And I love raising up leaders in the world to create impact because I've only got so much bandwidth, man.

I can only do so much.

You know, just like you, we've got to be able to have a team or other people, foot soldiers to get out there and make an impact too.

Absolutely.

Wow, that's legendary, man.

I want to dive into that religious trauma, actually, because I know you do post a lot about God and stuff.

So where are you at in that journey right now?

Yeah, man.

I mean, you probably hear a lot of Christians nowadays say it's about relationship, not religion.

And it's quite easy to say that.

But then I do also think that even even when Christians say that, they still have a very deep religious binding that's happening, right?

Because it's so embedded in our culture.

There are some great things about religion and there are some terrible things about religion.

When it comes to powermongering,

control, manipulation, the lies, things that happen in certain church organizations, it's terrible.

people in every field that are charlatans, right?

Not just in the church environment, but other environments too, in entrepreneurship, in the coaching world, and wherever else.

But I'm a very big believer that if you go to the source, then you don't have to worry about the distortion.

And I think that religion was a vehicle that was utilized over the top of truth, like a template that was laid over and it was scribbled over for its own agenda.

And so I think us having ritualistic practices in the sense of praying, getting in the word, you know, praying for others, having community, all beneficial things.

But when it comes to the fear-mongering aspect,

we're all sinners, man.

We're all fallen short of the grace of God.

And who am I to sit there casting judgment and shame on somebody that maybe they haven't even had the experience of having a personal spiritual connection with God yet or a relationship with God?

We all have our things that we struggle with.

You know, I know pastors that have had affairs.

I know pastors that are addicted to,

Maybe not right now, but they have had that and they've had their battle with it.

So

I coach and I've coached thousands of people.

And so you get to a point where you realize we're all screwed up.

We've all got things.

Some people were just trying to hide from it more than others.

And I always ask, what are you hiding, avoiding, and pretending not to know?

And I think that

somebody like Jesus, man, like he just spoke the truth, bro.

And I love that.

We need that.

In this world today, there's so many lies.

There's a saying that the truth is often surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.

That's the value of truth.

The truth is so damn important, right?

So it's going to have manipulation.

It's going to have distortion all over it.

And people are going to take advantage of it and twist it for their own agenda.

Truth is so powerful.

And I used to lie a lot, honestly, growing up every day.

Like lying to others or lying to yourself.

Both.

And it took me years to break that habit, dude.

Yeah.

And once I broke it, I barely lie now.

Now it's only if it i think the other person will uh sometimes the news is a little too harsh so it's like a white lie almost okay i see yeah you sort of soften the blow yeah but other than that i try to just be direct and some people don't like it you know what i mean some people get offended and at least i told the truth in my eyes well that's good it sounds like you overcame a wound of not feeling good enough

i felt like that for years dude we lie when we want people to accept us yeah but you're like hey

i don't need to do that anymore because i already accept me yeah I don't need someone to like my social media posts.

I already like me.

Yeah.

I felt like I wasn't good enough for years because this girl told me I was ugly in fifth grade.

No way.

Yeah.

So I didn't look in the mirror for like eight years and my mom had just very strict standards in academics and everything.

And I felt like since I wasn't doing well in school, that I wasn't good in life and business.

You know what I mean?

Yep.

It's so interesting, man, because we call this in the coaching world over-compensationary success.

I did it too.

I'm Mr.

Addicted to Success.

You know, my business is is called Addicted to Success.

And I have a very healthy relationship with success now.

I told my wife yesterday,

success to me is defined in a very different way.

One of the greatest achievements in success for me is not my business.

It's, does my wife feel loved?

Does she know that I care about her?

You know, when I leave the house, does she know that she has nothing to worry about?

Like to me, because I want to feel that from her too.

It's a fair exchange, right?

And one day when we have kids, I want them to feel that love too.

to me that would be the ultimate success wow to me to maintain my relationship with God and not fear the world or fear man but to actually have a respect for God that I trust his word over the world's word that's a great success too because it's very hard to do that yeah we were talking before this podcast about people that are just so easily bought you know they they brown nose and they

They they try and get popularity votes because they don't want to tell the truth.

The truth rattles cages.

But the way to be able to be set free is to rattle a cage until it comes unlatched.

Then you can leave the coop, you know?

Yeah.

A lot of people are stuck in cages, man.

And I think part of what we do is we're inviting people to come out of the cage.

Come out of the cage, man.

Come over here.

Try this over here.

Are you sure?

Is it safe?

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm standing here.

It's happening, right?

But we live in many cages.

I call them the labyrinth, right?

We live in this sort of maze.

And in the business world, we're constantly told, go chase the cheese, go get the the cheese, the cheese, the cheese.

So we're like in this maze trying to find the cheese.

And what I've found through my relationship with God in the way that even Christ was teaching was like, come out of the maze completely.

You know, he broke the matrix.

He carved the path through the matrix and showed a way out.

That's why he says, I'm the way, the truth, and the life.

Yeah.

Right.

We need that.

There's no doubt.

We're stuck in a matrix right now.

Absolutely.

If you want to call it that, it's a you know a societal construct,

a slave-like system.

And a lot of people are asleep to what's going on in the world.

And you don't have to have all the answers.

I think sometimes people can get so addicted to needing to know everything that could be a conspiracy or what is the government doing or what is this politician saying or how is this person going to get in?

Because we want certainty.

That's what we want.

So that we feel safe.

If I know what's going on, I feel safe.

So I would just say, just go back to the raw truth of the word, man.

Like God already told us, there's over 4,000 prophecies in the scriptures, right?

87% of those prophecies have come true.

Wow.

Already.

That's crazy.

We only have 14% left.

We are in the time of Revelation.

We're in the book of Revelation.

If you look at the book of Daniel and Revelation, they are cross-references, symbolic and literal, metaphorical as well, for us to understand where we are on the scale of time.

And Christ says in there, come out of her, my people.

He's referring to Babylon, right?

We know of the ancient civilization called Babylon, which was one of the greatest, which is actually in Iraq.

If you trace it over today, yeah.

But he's saying, come out of her, my people, come out of Babylon.

What is Babylon?

Babylon is Babel.

Babel is confusion.

Come out of the confusion.

Come back to the truth.

Right?

We're living in so many layers of templates now from the original design that God had created that it's tough for us to see through the murky water.

So interesting.

I wonder if money even played a role back then because I spent six years of my life chasing it.

That was the number one priority for me.

And I was so unfulfilled, honestly.

And now I'm at a place now where it's like secondary.

It's not the main focus.

Dude, I wake up every day pumped.

Like it's insane.

Yeah.

Well, that's the difference between ambition and purpose.

You know that, right?

So you have ambition, which is kind of like this.

Going out to the club, drinking, people might take drugs or do whatever, right?

You got to get it out of your system.

And then you get to a point where you're like, hey, I don't want this anymore, right?

I felt like that when I first started chasing success.

You know, I had multi-million dollar success.

I had offers for addicted to success, spoken on stages around the world, stayed in penthouses that kissed the sunset, you know, like the luxury cars, all the things, man.

I've lived in so many different countries around the world.

I've traveled to over 54 different countries.

Wow.

And, you know, that's cool, great experience, but it was ambition.

And when you reach this mature success, it's like a new dimension.

You realize it's actually about purpose.

Purpose is, I don't work for my money.

I make my money work for me.

And my money works for me because of the systems I've created.

James Clear, who wrote the book Atomic Habits, great guy.

I've had him a couple of times in my groups and on my podcast.

And he says something so profound.

He says, you don't rise to the level of your goals.

You fall to the level of your systems.

Wow.

Yeah.

You don't rise to the level of your goals.

You fall to the level of your systems.

So you can write all the goals you want, but if it's not systemized, you're constantly having to hike back up that hill every time to launch again and to repeat the process.

So systemize it.

That's smart.

That's mature success.

I want to systemize so I can spend more time with my wife.

Right.

You know, my family or my friends or whatever it may be.

I want to systemize so I can be able to...

10x my income so I can contribute whatever 10 20 30 percent to philanthropic ventures.

That's smart man.

That's purpose.

That's what we're put on earth to do is to multiply.

God already gave us all the abilities.

People don't multiply because they're coming from lack and scarcity.

They don't see money as a tool that can be multiplied through wise investment.

And so instead, they're constantly chasing the cheese and the maze.

Chasing it, yeah.

Were you sacrificing your health, your time with friends and family early on in your business career?

Yes.

And I think I got to do that so that I was able to realize what hard, focused work is.

is

so I could create a contrast and weigh up

at some point, which was many years ago.

This is hard work, what's smart work?

Right?

And if I can compare, like bind the two together, whenever you start a business, you know, this the first year or two is going to be hustle, man.

It's hard work, right?

But if you systemize enough, it becomes smart work.

So I'd needed to do that when I was younger.

It actually stopped me going out and taking drugs and getting involved in all those things.

My friends, I'll tell you what, man, I used to work in a sales company in Perth, Western Australia.

I would hang out with my friends on a Friday evening after work, and we would sit there drinking away at this bar.

I went and achieved a lot of success.

I'm addicted to success.

My friends would say, like, oh man, you're a pussy.

Why don't you come out to the club?

And I'm like, no, no, I'm working on my dream.

And they were like, laugh, you know, just we grew apart, different levels.

But I still have respect for him, still love him, you know.

And so I came back to Australia.

This was about eight years later.

And I'm sitting in the same bar.

They'd sort of renovated it, but everybody's sitting in their same seats and same spots.

No way.

Yeah, eight years later.

It tripped me out.

You know, like that moment where you have that moment of like realization?

Yeah.

I'm sitting there and they're talking about the same managers and the same people at the bottom.

No way.

And I looked around.

They were all still working at the same company.

And I was just like.

This is crazy.

And they're like, Joe, what do you think?

And I say, you know what I think?

I've come out of the fishbowl.

And I think you guys have been bitching and moaning and complaining about the same people

ever since I can remember.

And I said, you got three options.

You either get a pay rise, so you stop complaining.

You get a promotion, so you work somewhere else in the company, or you leave and you start your own business.

But whatever you do, stop complaining.

Wow.

And I got up and I paid for everybody's pizzas and beers.

Damn.

And I didn't do that to spite.

I just did it because I felt so empowered.

Like, Joel, you know what?

You made the right decision.

You went out there and took a shot.

And out of the eight guys that were there, two of them came over to me and said, hey, man, I want to start my own business.

I want to do my own thing.

Wow.

And they have.

And so it's just a good testament to show, like, at any point in time, you can make a new decision.

You don't have to keep repeating the cycle.

Sometimes people have their sort of local thing that they're a part of and it feels safe.

But I think the biggest risk is not actually creating what's truly on your heart because that's the thing that sets your soul on fire.

That's purpose, like what you're you're living now.

That's not ambition, that's purpose.

Absolutely.

Yeah, once I switched to a purpose-driven life, things just, everything started getting better.

Health, money,

just feelings, like it's great, dude.

But it's been such a fun episode, man.

Anything you want to close off with or promote?

Nah, you know what?

It's 2024.

A lot of people...

had such a shift in their mindset.

I spoke to people before New Year's.

I was doing sales calls and bringing clients in.

And I told some of them, like, why are you going to wait till the new year?

Right.

Why do we do this?

Why do we we follow this calendar date?

And then we had people that jumped in after, and it was like I was talking to completely different people.

And I was like, what's wrong with this world right now?

But, you know, I would just say, act as if calendars don't exist.

Don't be that person that waits and says, like, oh, well, I'll just wait till 2025.

Now, just do it now.

Like, if you truly love something, do it because

you just never know when you're going to go.

Right.

I'm going to leave you with this real quick because we're wrapping up.

You have a 21-year-old, young kid, right

in a year from now he's gonna walk out on the road in a horrific accident get hit by a bus and die right

you have a 46 year old that dies of natural causes just dies in his sleep at 96 who's older

is it the 96 year old

no why it's the 21 year old that's gonna die next year because time is a calibration of change.

As I said earlier in the episode, he only has one year left in his life.

The 46-year-old has 50 more years left to live.

And the question that I'm going to follow up with this on is: Do you know when you're going to die?

No.

You don't.

So we don't really know how much longer we're going to live.

So why wait?

Just action it today.

Make it happen.

Powerful, man.

I love that.

Dude, thanks so much for coming on.

Hey, man.

Thanks for having me, bro.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, and we will see you tomorrow.