Pro Boxing, Jaylen Brown & Future Plans I Marselles Brown DSH #413

Did you want your kids to be boxers too?

Freaking no.

I don't want to cuss on it.

Is it going to cuss?

You can cuss.

Hell no.

Hell, no, sir.

I tell them, boxing is for the uneducated.

It's a sport where you don't have to have educated to make, become a millionaire.

And it's the highest paid sport.

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All right, guys, we got Marcellus Brown in the building.

How's it going, brother?

Blessed.

Blessed, blessed.

You were the tallest guy I've ever met.

Am I?

Yeah, you're seven feet, man.

Not many people in that club.

And not many people seven feet in boxing either.

Nah, that's...

You might be the tallest boxer ever, right?

I was for a while, and then they got this big old goofy guy from Russia.

From Russia, okay.

Never heard of him.

Yeah, exactly.

So at seven feet, you could have played any sport while boxing.

I did.

I played basketball.

Boxing was probably my go-to sport.

Okay.

My dad was a fighter.

He spiraled all these stuff like that.

Nice.

And I kind of just fell into it.

Didn't know I was going to grow to be seven feet, of course.

Yeah, and then I made it to the U.S.

Olympic team.

I was 6'7, I think, at 17.

For boxing, that's tall.

Knocking people out.

Ranked fifth in the world.

You know, when you're on the Olympic team, you got to be the best in the world.

Yeah.

So you were fifth in the world?

Fifth.

Holy crap.

And do you feel like the height gave you an advantage?

No, my leverage.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Speed because I'm long, lanky.

Right.

You could keep your distance.

Right.

What was your style?

I was a one-punch knockout guy.

Jab, jab, boom, I hit you.

You're going to sleep.

Got it.

You did.

So you either knocked someone out or you lost, basically?

Pretty much.

I didn't, well, amateur, I was really successful.

That's how I got to the Olympic team.

Yeah.

And then when I turned pro, I had,

you know, started out pretty good.

So the guy who had Ali, which is Joe Martin Sr.,

passed on me.

He was my manager.

When he died, then I wound up getting with Don King.

And no good.

Wow.

So you'd attribute a lot of boxing to the management side of things and the trainer?

pretty much interesting is a really rough sport so you can't just be skilled you need really good lead mentorship my problem was is i could read so when you can read those contracts they get a little upset because they can't get over on you oh because they're used to just having kids sign they don't know

you know ninth grade education was pretty much the highest

Yeah, oh, you dropped out ninth grade?

No.

For most fighters,

the highest was ninth grade.

Me, I'm in college.

Right.

I can read.

And if I can't read it or understand it, I'm going to take it to somebody who can't.

Yeah.

So that's a problem for promoters.

Yeah.

So was education a big part of your life growing up?

Family, yes.

Yeah, they placed importance on it for you?

Yes.

I grew up with both parents, both grandparents.

That's a rarity in my community back.

as a black child.

Yeah.

So I was fortunate.

Yeah, that is rare, man, to be honest.

You don't hear that often.

right Wow Parents are still together to this day.

Wow.

That's impressive man.

The divorce rates over 50% these days.

Yeah, it's pretty tough.

Yeah, are you still with your wife?

That'd be a new

All right, let's hear it.

That'd be a new

Looking back at it, do you think that was the right choice to separate?

Ah, you know, I was taught to be in your marriage, you make a covenant with God and you marry forever, but you can't convince the the other side that.

Right.

When they went out, they won out.

Oh, so she wanted out?

Two of my marriages, yes.

One,

I just wanted out, yeah.

I got married three times.

Yeah, my dad was married twice, and he was done after that.

Yeah, I'm pretty much done.

Yeah.

I got seven kids out the deal.

Damn.

I'm cool.

All planned?

Uh,

yeah, mostly.

Okay.

Mostly, yeah.

Nice.

Maybe one wasn't, but

at least you're on.

I'm here.

I love her.

Yeah.

I named her Marcellus.

I was unplanned.

Oh, wow.

It happens, you know?

Everything happens for a reason.

But six kids.

Wow, that's a lot.

Seven.

Well, seven.

Six planned in one.

Right, there you go.

Okay.

And my daughter's beautiful.

She's, oh, my God.

She's like, she looks like

what she is, a model.

Wow.

And I named her Marcellus after me.

Oh.

All my kids are named Marcellus, pretty much.

So it's a unisex name?

Not, well, Marcellus can be, yeah.

Okay.

But I gave

my kids

my name as their middle name.

That's cool.

You wanted to carry the legacy.

You see like Jalen Marcellus Brown, Clinton Marcellus Brown, Brianna Marcellus Brown, Marcellus Capri Brown.

Did you want your kids to be boxers too?

Freaking no.

I don't want to cuss on it.

Can I cuss?

You can cuss.

Hell no.

Hell, no, sir.

I told them, you know, and then they came came to me and wanted to.

Like, I'm going to teach you.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to teach you well, but you won't be doing the sport.

Why?

No.

It's not for.

Boxing is for the uneducated.

It's a sport where you don't have to have educating to make become a millionaire.

And it's the highest paid sport on the planet.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But you don't have to have a degree, no nothing.

Just no college, no high school.

Just walk in and do your thing.

Yeah.

I didn't know the money was upset.

I told my kids, y'all not dumb.

Neither was I, but I like to fight.

Wow.

I always thought like NFL or NBA was the highest paying.

No, sir.

Boxing?

And my son just happened to be the highest paid NBA player in history.

Are you serious?

Absolutely.

How much?

304 million.

Holy shh.

That is insane.

Right.

Yeah, you're going to have to look that up.

That's nuts.

Yeah, that's 304 million.

Yeah, the money in the NBA is getting pretty insane.

It wasn't like that when I was coming up.

Every sport, I feel like a lot of sports are evolving on the pay side.

Yeah.

So back then, the money.

It's kind of weird because, you know, it's like everything is streaming now.

Yeah.

So TV is not like it used to be, but those dollars are still

going up.

I don't even watch TV anymore.

I'm a movie buff.

Yeah.

So regular TV, I don't either.

I don't like that reality stole stuff.

This is crazy.

Commercials.

What kind of movie genres do you like?

I'm an action, drama, thriller.

Okay.

I like thrillers too.

Sci-fi.

Sci-fi is up.

Star Trek?

All the way.

I'm all about that.

I'm a trackie, baby.

Yeah, I love Star Trek, dude.

People always say Star Wars.

I'm like...

Star Star Wars is okay, but I'm really a tracky.

Yeah, for sure.

100.

And we're a rarity, but like, Star Wars, the newer ones suck, dude.

It's not realistic.

Nah, not at all.

Like, you can't relate.

I can't.

You know what I'm saying?

But

I guess it's entertaining for

some like it.

Certain action movies these days are super unrealistic, too.

Right.

Like, even though John Wick's dope, I can't relate.

Is he a superhero?

Because they don't have any more action superheroes anymore remember they used to have like action superheroes yeah six million dollar man

yeah denzel washington played one i forget what movie denzel um

the evilizer yeah is that the last one he's the last action hero that was a go-on it might be the last one yeah it might be the only i still watch that movie so good i mean everything is marvel superman wonder woman and all that kind of taken over that's different but like an action hero like you know what I'm talking about, yeah, dude.

It's hard.

I guess they just like the unrealistic CGI stuff these days.

CGI is taking over, huh?

With the kids, and now AI is taking over.

You can make everything

like it's really a real thing.

Yeah.

With CGI.

There's going to be AI actors now.

Oh, really?

You won't be able to tell.

Yeah.

So they're licensing.

Actors are licensing their image.

So they won't even have to show up on set.

It'll be a stunt double.

They're going to put their AI image on.

The producer gets all the money.

If they don't get paid.

That's what they want.

Yeah.

They want to pay the actors less because some of them make a lot.

And I thought, what they going on strike for?

I don't get it.

The actors?

Yeah, they went on strike.

They just came off of strike.

Yeah, some of them.

Well, so the top ones make a lot, but then everyone else, like...

Well, the top ones, they can set their price.

Yeah.

And everything under them went on strike.

Yeah, pretty much.

They felt on strike to go off strike because they must have settled?

I don't know.

I didn't hear anything about it.

Me neither.

It was really quiet, huh?

Yeah.

Who are your favorite actors?

Shoot, that's hard.

Anthony Hopkins.

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I think

I really think

Forrest Whitaker is a really good actor.

Ooh, that's a good one.

Yeah, Forrest Whitaker.

Will Smith?

No.

He had a good run, but...

He had a good run.

I'm not a Will Smith fan.

Oh, because of recent events?

I won't say because of recent events.

I just really don't have a fan.

Oh, okay.

He has played some good parts in movies.

I don't knock them, but you know.

Yeah, he had a good run.

I think like eight number one hits in a row at one point.

But yeah, lately, I think it's hard to.

There's like peak ages in acting, you know?

Is it?

I think so.

Well, with males, it's longer.

But with females.

I'm just getting into it, and I'm just starting to learn about the acting.

Yeah.

Because I'm supposed to appear in a few movies in the future.

So that's something you want to get.

I'm learning.

Well, people telling me I'm pretty good.

Well, at least my acting teacher says I'm

natural.

And I don't see it, but hey, what is what it is?

What it is.

I can see it, man.

I mean, just your appearance is different.

So if you can nail the acting part, you'll be able to.

Stop fluffing me.

Cut it out.

You're going to be the next.

What's that guy named?

The Rock.

The Rock Johnson.

Yeah.

Say, no way.

John Sena.

They're all going to acting, all these WWE guys.

I would if I would them too, because what they

wrestling, really?

Yeah,

they're acting, correct?

Basically, I was never into WWE, to be honest.

I was when I was a kid.

Okay.

I don't even know if it was WWE when I was a kid.

Oh, I don't even know what it was called when I was a kid, but I was watching Ric Flair and oh my god.

That was WWE, yeah.

Was it?

I think so.

It was.

Okay, cool.

What's your favorite sport to watch on TV?

My favorite sport to watch on TV is I cannot say anything but basketball.

Okay.

I can say football, too.

Football is a little slow for me.

It is, but I got kids.

I got to support them.

That makes sense.

Basketball is my favorite, too.

All the way.

Or UFC.

See, I'm not a UFC fan.

Really?

I don't get it.

There is a divide, I noticed, with boxers and UFC.

Like, if I hit a fighter with those gloves

that they wear in UFC, They're dying.

You serious?

Come on, bro.

People have actually died in my sport.

None yet in the UFC.

And they get to kick you in the face and elbow you in the face and all that.

It's coming, though.

That's scary.

I believe that.

Damn, so you saw people die in boxing?

I have seen people die firsthand in boxing.

Holy

go back to their room and don't wake up the next day.

No way.

All the way.

Because the gloves are 12.

Just recently, something happened here at the UNLV where they did some celebrity thing and the kid got hit,

laid down, and died.

What?

I didn't even hear about that.

Hold on.

The commission is really,

you know,

cracking down on that kind of stuff.

They won't.

You got to go through a lot of hoops to get that

approved.

Man, that's scary.

Was that in the

back of your head when you were going into some fights?

Here's what was in the back of my head.

I knew so many fighters

that

I was afraid to not be able to communicate and walk like I was drunk when I had not had a drink.

And I saw that firsthand and so I was afraid of that.

Damn.

So when I was amateur, I was trying to knock you out.

I wasn't trying to let you hit on me at all.

Yeah.

And so when I got pro and then I started getting stuck in the fights with one day or two day notice, I would just go get the money

because I felt like I'm only, this is only one of me

and he don't care about me if I don't care about me.

So I needed the money to take care of my children and

my wife and you know, pay bills and stuff.

And that's what I did.

Wow.

Yeah, you do see.

So

I admit, I took dives.

I'm not letting you hurt me.

Yeah.

I do see

like what you're talking about with certain fighters.

That's what you want to call it.

No, I see it with certain fighters, man.

They don't talk the same.

Bro.

Like the Diaz brothers.

My God, listen to me, man.

Every time you get hit, it's a mouth concussion.

Jeez.

Like, seriously.

Like,

I've been hit to where I'm like, whoa, I'm not going to experience that again.

Yeah.

Like, you can understand what I'm saying.

And I got far more fights than half of these other guys got.

And you can't understand nothing they say.

Nothing, dude.

It's bad.

It's really bad.

Yeah.

All the way.

Like, you must have gotten over 10 concussions.

I had a few.

Trust me.

And a lot of times I got hit and made it look like I was hurt and I wasn't because

I got to take care of me.

Yeah.

No, you're thinking long game, man.

And look at you now.

You can talk normally.

Communicate with my kids, man, and, you know,

get along without stumbling and looking like I'm drunk.

Man, I don't want to mention names, but trust me when I tell you, I was on an Olympic team with Roy Jones, Reddick Bo,

all these guys,

and

their speech vocabulary is really not good.

That's sad.

You even see it with some NFL players, man.

Really?

Yeah.

You see it?

Well, because recussions, and then they go into that ECT stuff.

Yeah.

Well, you know what I'm trying to to say?

Yeah, yeah.

Where they go crazy a little bit.

You saw with the helicopter.

And I wonder why that doesn't happen with the fighters.

Where they have rapes and go-killers, they spouse and they sell, but you see it more in football.

And they got helmets.

Yeah.

Well, I think when it's a head-to-head collision with helmets, it's just like a mild concussion.

Oh, it's like, because,

hey, man, you ever got somebody smack you in the head when you had a helmet on?

No, I didn't.

I put a helmet on once.

And somebody just smacked the helmet.

Yeah.

It didn't feel like I was protected.

That hurt it.

Yeah, because it's locking your head in place, you know.

Exactly.

And we wear headgears in boxing when we spar, getting ready for abouts.

Yeah.

And we wore headgears as amateurs.

But you can still, like, I got a friend, man.

I love him to death.

He's a three-time world champion.

Can't understand a damn thing he says.

Damn.

Nothing.

That's a shame, dude.

I just left one of my partners.

He owns a gym here.

We partners, I filter my fighters through his gym to help him stay afloat and, you know, keep money coming through and stuff like that.

And

I heard the attorney ask him three times, what'd you say?

Repeat that?

World champion.

Can't understand a damn thing you say.

Wow.

Dude, I'm glad you're speaking up about this because you don't hear this.

Yeah, man.

Boxing is bad.

no pensions no none of that yeah dude

basketball football you got a pension yeah basketball is more like controllable you're not gonna get a concussion for the most part

well you can you can but you can you definitely can't show he giving he giving people concussion hey

you know what i mean yeah that's man i love his podcast so seeing that do that i do too i love dray bond he's from michigan You know, I went to Michigan State.

So he's

come over there, Saginaw.

I got all kinds of family in Saginaw.

So, you know, I'm a fan of Draymond.

I understand his style of play.

Yeah.

He's more like the

Dennis Rodmans, the Lambiers, acting in modern day them.

Yeah.

They've done worse than him and then get suspended

indefinitely.

Yeah, it was a different game in the 90s, 2000s.

It's so soft.

You think it's too soft right now?

It's too soft.

Yeah, it's too soft.

I mean, Sharif O'Neill was just too soft.

I know it's about entertainment and money, and it should be about fighting, and it shouldn't be about this.

I get it.

Yeah.

But it's just too soft.

Dude, when I watch 90s highlights on YouTube, I get so excited.

Like the level of basketball they played back in the day.

Man,

the bad boys, the Detroit Bad Boys, was they bad?

They were playing.

You could feel the energy just watching it.

You know what I mean?

It's different now.

You don't feel that same way.

Right.

It's unfortunate.

I mean,

I wouldn't say unfortunate, but it's just a different style of game.

Got that right.

Absolutely.

How good were you at basketball?

I was decent.

I walked on a few teams.

Nice.

What position?

Center?

Yes.

Forward center.

But you didn't want to go pro?

I walked on.

I tried to walk on at the Hawks

and then I broke my ankle just so I had to go back to boxing.

Damn.

I was a two-sport guy.

Oh, so you were doing basketball and boxing?

Yes.

Wow.

I've never heard of someone doing those two.

I didn't even know I was good at boxing, and by the time I realized I'm seven feet, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Basketball was like second nature.

Like,

you know, I spend more time boxing than I did basketball.

Yeah.

But I learned quickly.

So, you know, I wasn't bad.

That's dope.

When did you know Jalen was going to be special in basketball?

The moment I handed him a basketball.

That early?

Wow.

Only that's his dream.

That's dope.

It was always his dream.

Damn.

So how old did he start playing?

I brought him to Vegas.

He was

six or seven.

Wow.

He actually wasn't old enough to play.

I lied about his age.

Paid the dude a couple dollars at the little place called Doolittle over here.

Yeah, yeah.

Gave the guy a couple dollars.

You know, hey, I'm putting him in anyway.

My son went off.

Damn.

He wanted to dribble.

He kept, he's pigeon-toed, so he would always chip over his feet.

Yeah.

And he didn't give a damn.

He was just, he wanted, all he knows, he want to play.

From the time he

probably

got introduced to basketball, all he knows is basketball, basketball, basketball.

He went all in from day one.

All in.

That's dope.

I mean, he was probably two or three,

and he had this video called Airbug, this little basketball dog.

Oh, the movie?

Yeah.

I used to watch those.

Dude, this kid watched that movie like a million times.

You can't watch nothing.

He's just so fascinated with the basketball.

So I just knew that was it.

You were training him subconsciously.

Kind of sort of.

Yeah, because he.

At the time he was born, I was really into church and God and

I was going to a really big church and he said, I said, I want to get my boys baptized.

He said,

You've been studying under me long enough.

You baptize them.

So I did.

Wow.

That's cool, man.

So, what are my prayers for him to be one of the greatest players ever?

You manifested it.

And he's on that mission right now.

And he's on that mission.

He's gotten, what, like five all-stars now at this point?

Pretty much.

Yeah, every year, 25 a year, consistent.

Yep.

I mean, Tatum.

I like to see him at 30.

Well, with Tatum, yeah, those two are probably the best duo in the league, to be honest.

Yeah.

Yeah, I tell people all the time, he might be the highest paid in history, but it won't last for long.

Somebody else come.

Yeah, every couple years, right?

You know, somebody's contract could be bigger than his.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think Curry was the biggest, LeBron and what one.

LeBron James was like 290 for years.

Yeah.

A lot of years.

You know what I'm saying?

He was high paid for a whole bunch of them.

Yeah.

So, you know, it happens.

It's just the way the system is set up.

Absolutely.

You think the Celtics can do it this year?

If Pingis, is that his name?

Perzingus.

Prisingis.

Stay healthy.

Yeah.

They're looking good.

With Przingis in, yes.

They look unbeatable with him, man.

Yeah, they're like 20.

He's just an accident-prone skinny dude, man.

He gets injured a lot.

Like, come on, bro.

Yeah.

Him and Wembadaya.

Then we go back to soft, to They kind of soft.

You know what I'm saying?

I know my son ain't soft.

Yeah.

No, he be driving.

I ain't raised him to be soft.

Yeah, he'd take it to the rack on anyone.

He's fearless.

Yeah, I knew from zero to four,

my son's going to be.

I learned in psychology as my major in college.

Yeah.

Zero to four, it's pretty much already set to where they was going to go.

So I molded that at that age.

Yeah.

I noticed he's like a silent killer.

He doesn't talk much on the court.

No, he don't.

Is that something you trained in him?

No, that's just his personality.

Okay.

Like, my other son is more like me.

He's more like his

mom, more quiet.

Yeah, because I've actually never

heard him talk on the court.

He's quiet, but deadly.

Yeah.

So he's almost.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, man.

I'm a witness to that one.

Yeah, she don't f ⁇ around, man.

Was that your first marriage?

Absolutely.

Nice.

And you've gotten two more sins?

Yes.

Wow.

Props to you, man, for not giving up.

Yeah, I tried it.

The hell with that.

I'm with this beautiful girl.

She said, marry who what?

I just met you.

What are you talking about?

No good.

Damn.

I'm running.

I think when you go just off of looks, it's a gamble.

You don't do that.

Yeah.

Don't do that.

Definitely a gamble.

Don't do that.

And usually the good-looking ones come with some baggage or something.

Some people don't really understand what marriage truly means.

Yeah.

And that's why they don't stay together.

Not willing to make the sacrifice and be unconditional to one another.

It's not going to work.

Yeah, for sure.

So you're living out here in Vegas now?

I live in Vegas.

I live in

Boston.

I'm back and forth.

What do you like more?

Vegas, for sure.

Okay.

Okay, God, I can't do.

I don't know why all all these other states ain't 24 hours.

It would, it would help the unemployment for sure.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And who got the right to tell you what time to go to damn bed?

Last call is at 1.30, 1.15.

And that's late in some states.

That's some.

Yeah, Jersey, where I grew up.

Everyone's been in the business.

Once you come to Vegas and be 24 hours, you go get a steak or a drink at any time,

whatever time of the day, or the night, whatever, and then go somewhere that does that, you'd be like, damn.

Yeah, it is nice to hear.

Segregated, like

you could troll me.

Like, if I'm on the street, what are you doing out here?

This, like,

you're getting pulled over, profiled, and yeah.

Come on, bro.

I feel that.

Vegas, you could get it.

I cannot go back to that.

Nah.

So you grew up where?

Kentucky.

Louisville, Kentucky.

You went to school in Michigan.

Got it.

Got it.

Man, you like the cold, huh?

Hell no.

That's why I'm out this way.

Never going back.

I don't even want to go visit.

Boston's cold, though, dude.

Oh, man, let me tell you something.

This is what, when I first, first time I got to Boston, it was cold.

I went to see my kids.

My dad's there.

And

all I can see is pilgrims as far as the eye can see.

It is truly the home of the white folks.

I heard that.

I've been there.

I call them pilgrims because, I mean, if you know the definition of pilgrim, it's not a bad thing.

Yeah.

And I don't want to call them others things, but hey, you know, it is what it is yeah that's plenty all that right there buddy wow

you got two kinds you got the kind of like blacks or you got the kind of dope oh they make it known oh yeah wow so racism still a thing huh come on bro i can't relate i mean i mean the hell out of here i get made fun of for being smart which is are you asian yeah okay there it is yeah you can't tell me you ain't being racist Your own president was talking about calling fool hog Asian all that I'm so used to it.

I just don't Come on, bro.

I don't care.

I don't either.

Yeah.

You ain't used to it?

Mark Clinton used to march down my street in Kentucky.

Yeah.

That's real.

Damn.

Yeah, Kentucky.

It's down south.

I haven't been out there.

Heard some of them.

Indiana, Kentucky, man.

Come on, bro.

Home of the Ku Klux Klein.

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

That must have been interesting.

And they'll let you know all up in your face.

Damn.

Did you fight back?

Hell no.

You want to go to penitentiary?

You better not throw a rock.

They have the right to assume a march or whatever they call it, to assemble and march.

They have a right to do their thing.

Geez.

So you're used to being outnumbered, then?

Outnumbered?

Yeah.

Like you grew up there, right?

I grew up there, yeah.

So,

you know what?

You stay in your lane.

You learn to stay in your lane, bro.

Yeah.

Damn.

And yeah, I'm used to being outnumbered.

Because if I get into it, you ain't whooping me one-on-one.

Yeah.

You're bringing your friends a gun, a knife, or something.

Did you get in a lot of fights growing up?

All the time.

Wow.

Yeah.

My police records say assault, assault, assault, assault.

I feel like that's a...

It don't say that does, but assault.

Malicious destructured assault.

Now, is it assault if they punch you first, though?

It didn't matter.

You want to go to jail.

Oh, sh ⁇ .

I thought you had to punch first.

That punch you.

Oh, here's the biggest thing.

You can't punch me because you're a boxer.

Really?

Well, hit me and see what happens.

People try to test it.

Your hands is legal.

Okay.

Hit me and see what happens.

That's a myth, right?

That's not true where your hand is weapon.

It's true in certain states, but you know, what's stopping them from shooting you?

Yeah.

Out of you.

Yeah.

Killing people every day.

And you're going to trip on me because I've...

defended myself and used my fists.

First of all, UFC guys, I know for a fact, and boxers, we don't like to get in street fights because we know what we can do to you.

To the average person, we know.

So we normally walk away.

But when you got somebody that's, come on, let's fight and I could whoop you trying to prove something to his girlfriend.

And, you know, had a little too much drink.

We still trying to walk away and they won't let you walk away.

You're getting this kicked.

Yeah.

Because trust me, you're going to get tired before I get tired.

Yeah.

I'm trained to go three minutes.

Yeah.

You can't go 30 seconds.

Yeah, people underestimate how much energy you need to fight, actually.

Yes.

It's like you just see it, but when you're actually in one, it's way different.

Definitely.

Yeah.

This is in grass, boy.

You're in trouble, buddy.

But you're probably done with those days, right?

Yeah, I don't get any fights no most.

They say you too big, brother.

you see more you see more zen these days more calm

you found your peace i don't want to be i don't want to fight there's no point at your level like what

too much to risk someone could sue you at the same time

you trust me man you get people that's really cocky and bold get up in your face man yeah you know i deal with people every day how tall are you and say stupid to me i mean it's the stupidest bro yeah like

you looking for a reaction or either you're looking for a check,

you're looking for me to whoop your so you can sue me and hope you can get some money out of it.

I try to stay out of the public.

Yeah.

Yeah, I try to, you know, if I don't know where I'm going or who I'm going around, I don't go.

That's smart.

And you probably have to tell your kids this too because there's probably people who are they have to live that way.

Yeah.

You know, I'm not going to get into some stuff to where I'm embarrassing my kids on TMZ.

You know, some

like that.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, dude.

Marcellus, it's been a blast.

Anything you're trying to close off with or promote?

I know you got a new show coming out, right?

Yeah, I got a new show coming out.

I don't know what we're going to name it yet.

You know, it's just a tool to where I can ship my, you know,

my fighters through.

Nice.

I mean, I only got 250 fighters.

Damn.

You have 250 fighters?

250 fighters that I take care of.

Holy crap.

I changed people's lives.

Wow, man.

I like to get back.

Love that.

Yeah.

Thanks for coming on, dude.

You chilled it.

Thank you, brother.

Yeah.

Thanks for watching.

30 minutes, but we made it happen, dude.

It is.

That's it.

Yeah.

Peace.

Yeah.

Deuces.