Winning Slots Jackpot, Collabing with Vegas Matt & Favorite Casinos I Scott Richter DSH #402

I didn't want to go home with a big briefcase.

Oh, they could have done cash?

Yeah, they actually have, if you request cash, I mean, if you put a cash into a machine and they request cash, they have to, you know.

Wow.

I don't know why you would want to take cash.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, you wouldn't.

You probably can't even fly with that.

Yeah, so actually, I've been stopped at the airport before in the past.

Nowadays, I try not to travel with cash just because there's a lot of bad people in the world.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we got the big jackpot here today.

How's it going, Scott?

Good.

How you doing?

Coming off a million dollar win, huh?

Yeah, yeah.

Bone shock.

Happened last night?

Yeah, yeah, last night, about one o'clock in the morning.

Oh my gosh.

Were you alone?

Well, yeah, I was just playing in the casino with my friend, but I had, I don't know, like 20, 30 fans behind me watching.

No way.

Yeah, so it was pretty hectic.

That might go down as one of the most memorable experiences of your life.

Yes,

definitely be hard to top it.

For sure, definitely one of the most.

How quick did security pull up when you won that million?

So not so much security, but the slide attendants were immediately there.

Okay.

Yeah, it was definitely.

Because I feel like if someone's walking by watching you win that, they might try to follow you out of there.

Oh, yeah.

I don't think that was really.

I don't think that's probably because it takes quite a while to get paid out.

Oh, you didn't get the money right away uh it took them about an hour hour and a half to get it all done yeah it's not too bad yeah and i decided to take a million dollars of it in a check i didn't yeah i didn't want to go home with a big briefcase

oh they could have done cash yeah they they actually have if you request cash i mean if you put cash into a machine and they request cash they have to you know wow i don't know why you would want to take cash yeah

i mean yeah you wouldn't be crazy you probably can't even fly with that Yeah, so actually, I've been stopped at the airport before in the past.

Nowadays, I try not to travel with cash just because there's a lot of bad people in the world.

So I usually just use casino markers, and that way I don't have, you know, not a

high risk

to say.

But yeah, so I have been stopped at airports before.

So there's no law.

You could travel with a billion dollars.

Oh, really?

Yeah, there's no law.

I mean, there's no law about how much you travel.

It's only if you leave the country or coming back in the country that you have to declare over 10,000.

Oh, God.

I always thought you just couldn't fly more than with 10 Gs.

No, it's only if you go international or flying in or out that that they do that.

And I mean, you can come back in the country with $20 billion.

It would be suspicious.

But yeah,

there's no law that says you can't.

Interesting.

Okay.

I want to talk about your gambling career.

Like what age did you start doing slots?

Yeah, so I actually started a long time ago when I was about 18 years old.

Wow.

Before it was even legal, I guess, for me to gamble.

So hopefully I won't get in trouble 35 years later.

But yeah, I had a mentor who used to come to Vegas all the time and was really big into slots.

So I started coming out when I was younger.

It was kind of a, well, a couple of things.

30 years ago, nobody cared about IDs and checking stuff.

It was a whole different kind of world.

Mafia was running the

so we used to come out to Vegas and I was a little larger, so I looked a little older for my age.

So we'd gamble and just come out and, you know, I don't know, $500,000 back then or something.

Yeah.

It's kind of a big trip.

But most of the machines do never even went over like $5.

So it wasn't like you're hitting a lot of jackpots.

And funny story is when I was 20, I hit my first jackpot.

And I was at Caesar's Palace in the middle of the night.

And I was like, the guy came over, you know, he needs your ID and your paperwork.

He goes, I go, oh my God, I forgot it.

He goes, oh, no problem.

The slot supervisor can work with you.

Just give us your information.

You couldn't even claim the money.

No, yeah, I did claim it.

Yeah, they paid me.

But like I said, this isn't 1990.

Just nobody cared about, you know, nobody was doing bad things in 1990.

Yeah.

Wow.

Caesars, if you're watching this, that never happened

so how many jackpots have you won uh so that's actually another fun fact i'm i'm getting i'm very close to hitting 10 000 jackpots what in my life yeah holy crap i thought you win like one in a lifetime no so on average because of the bet size um and the twelve hundred dollar cap um on average i get about um i may get you know two three hundred jackpots a night A nights?

Some nights.

Yeah, like when I'm doing bigger spending and stuff in the casinos.

On most nights, probably about 10 to 20 jackpots is pretty average when I'm in the casino.

Yeah.

And is there a strategy in terms of switching machines or are you on the same machine for those?

So, yeah, sometimes it's the same machine.

I just keep playing it.

And sometimes I switch machines, try different machines.

Okay.

So there's no like set machine that you favor.

You just play all of them?

Yeah.

So I have my favorite machines that I really enjoy playing.

But then for the show, I try and play the most popular games and newer games that the fans are into.

Otherwise, they won't watch.

Yeah.

How have you seen the type of slot machines evolve over the 30 years you've been gambling?

So a few things.

They definitely have gone from the real machines where you would see the real spinning to electronic machines, which you're video operated.

And over the last couple of years, they've added the grand jackpots and now the grand jackpots are getting larger.

They used to be like $10,000, $15,000, then it was $50,000, then it was $100,000 and now they have the million-dollar machines.

And now they even have a $10 million machine.

What?

It's called Megabucks.

And it's all the casinos combined or

in the machine.

So it's like as people play, like every casino may have two or three of them.

And as people play throughout all the casinos, it's going into this $10 million pot.

But I think on that machine, if you do win it, it pays you over like 20 years.

I think there's a little bit different payout.

So the million dollars I won was immediate payout.

No, no,

what's the most someone's ever won off a slotjack pot?

So I honestly do not know, but I do think that somebody has won 10 million.

Damn.

But like I said, I don't know.

I mean,

since the million-dollar Dragonlinks came out and started, I know there's probably been 50 to 75 million dollar plus winners.

Wow.

It starts at 1 million.

So I think from between a million and like

about 1.5 million.

That's insane.

Is the U.S.

the biggest country for slots?

No.

Well, I don't know now after stuff, but Macau used to be the biggest.

Macau?

Macau outside of Hong Kong.

Wow.

I never even heard about.

Oh, really?

Yeah, it's huge.

So a lot of the casinos that are here, like Wynne, Venetian, they have locations there.

And

it's weird because it's like, if you think the casinos here are big, over there, they're about twice as big.

It's like the same thing, but it's just, but they don't have as many slot machines there.

It's mostly a lot of baccarat, dice games,

and more Chinese cultural stuff.

Now, why'd you go all in on slots?

Because when you look up the odds, it's like one of the worst, right?

Yeah.

So for me, slots were always mindless entertainment.

It was just something fun for me to do, kind of just a getaway.

Some of my biggest ideas in business came from slots.

You know, so I would just kind of play them and, you know, it's like I said, it's mindless entertainment.

You don't have to do any effort.

There's no thought process of hitting a button.

But I do table games.

I've had some huge wins on table games and stuff.

But table games, you have to make a decision.

I mean, there's a lot more.

at play than a slot machine.

Yeah, it's more strategy, right, with table games.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Would you say you're up or down like overall in your gambling career?

Oh, yeah.

I i mean for my 30 years plus of gambling i'm definitely down oh you are there i mean if you ever meet a gambler who tells you he's ahead he's he's a liar at least you're honest about it yeah i mean there's nobody i mean this year i am 100 ahead okay and i've and this year and and this jackpot hit as long as i don't screw it up in the next few weeks definitely should

should definitely i'm this probably made up for a couple of years yeah you know but yeah i mean there's especially at the level that of gambling that we're doing or that i say that i'm doing on my channel um it's definitely a much higher um

amount being bet.

So the jackpots happen very frequently.

Yeah, but you're able to monetize in other aspects to offset some of your losses, which is cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Between we have the YouTube revenue, Facebook revenue, which is really good.

Yeah.

It's actually interesting because I started on YouTube, but my Facebook revenue is about three, four times what YouTube pays me.

Damn.

And then the endorsement deals are just insane.

Yeah.

And then one thing I also started about five years ago, I was the first slot influencer in the area to start my own slot app.

So I have my own app, which has done really well for me over the years.

Oh, so you could literally play slots on an app on your phone right now?

Yeah.

So

it's a free play app with in-app purchases.

Yeah, so you're not catching out money or anything.

Oh, it's just like digital currencies and stuff you can learn?

Yeah, just like in-app purchases

for coins and bonuses.

Yeah.

How do the brand deals work?

That's a curious thing to me.

Yeah.

So the brand deals are huge.

So we actually have a lot of like slot apps, other slot apps besides my own.

But yeah,

the brand deals are huge.

I mean, some of them are.

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You know, $25,050,000 a month.

It's crazy money for us.

You're killing it, bro.

Yeah, no, it's been really good.

A lot of Slack channels have started because they wanted...

I mean, the thing, when I started,

there wasn't the brand deals, and there wasn't a lot of money in this.

I just did it, you know, got into it.

I had an ex-girlfriend who got me into it, but, um, you know, I just kind of continued on with it.

It's just something to do.

It wasn't anything, you know, it's kind of like, eh, film a little clip, put it on YouTube.

You know, I never thought, you know, like

it would turn into what, yeah, this wasn't my focus at the time, yeah, where I had been in business and stuff.

I feel like you and Vegas Matter are like the face of the slots movement right now.

Yeah, yeah, and he's done tremendous.

I mean, he just, he's just exploded this last six months.

Crazy.

When I first told him on the show, like almost a year ago, like he was just starting.

Yeah, yeah, no.

I talked to him when he had first started.

And it's actually funny.

We did a competition video.

Oh, yeah.

We did, yeah, we did a $5,000 challenge video.

So,

well, obviously, I did him.

The OG of slots here.

No, so it was funny.

Yeah, we did a $5,000 video.

He actually, I played Huff and Puff.

He played video poker.

He lost it all in video poker.

I don't even, it was, it was whoever would have the most money after a half hour.

So I don't even know if he made it the full half hour.

Yeah.

But yeah, no, so we had a challenge.

And then I think I've beat him on two out of three challenges.

Damn.

He's going to have to do three out of five then or something.

Yeah, we'll have to.

But we always have a good time he uh we had a we had a funny video uh like a month or two ago um i was the butler in his video and what's funny about it is um a lady in the casino the other day was like oh my god you're you were uh she goes i i recognize you i know you and um i'm like i i don't know you she goes no you're the the butler

like oh yeah that's what she remembered you for

i mean you probably get recognized at every casino you walk into at this point oh yeah yeah it's definitely we're becoming more and more recognized

I mean, and outside of casinos, I mean, I was in Germany, Mexico.

Oh, even in other countries?

It's crazy because you have to think, I mean, I'm getting between 10 and 20 million views a month depending on the platforms.

And that's long form too, which is

my average watch time on long form is almost 22 minutes.

Holy that's the highest retention I've ever.

That's like Mr.

Beast numbers.

Yeah, no, it's crazy retention.

So the sweet spot for YouTube is you want like about a 35, 40 minute video.

Yeah.

And you usually get about 50% watch time.

Wow.

So do you have an older demo then?

Because Because people my age can't watch that long.

Yeah, yeah, the younger crowd is not into slots.

And that's the biggest problem.

And that's why the casinos and the slot manufacturers are really big about this because

they need to get these new viewers and stuff.

But yeah, my average person is about 70, 75% male audience,

35 to 55 year old.

Damn, that is crazy.

And then my top countries after USA is Australia, Canada, and UK.

Wow.

So you are worldwide.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

No, the pokies in Australia are huge.

And I mean, gambling everywhere is big.

I mean,

yeah, I guess slots is one of those things where it's kind of like everywhere in all the major countries.

Yeah.

No, it's,

you know, people just love them.

Yeah.

So where do you plan on taking this thing, man?

I don't know.

I mean, there's so many things, you know, and places, you know, to try and go with it.

I think for me, it's just, you know, to keep growing the channels.

It is, what's getting a little harder about everything now is because there's so many more platforms.

So it's obviously like TikTok came along.

You have Instagram.

You have X, you have now Clapper.

That's Clapper.

Clapper is like a TikTok knockoff.

So TikTok

got really strict about gambling and slots.

Oh, you can't even live stream on TikTok?

Yeah, no.

If you go live on TikTok with slots, they immediately ban you.

Wow.

And they do allow the content because...

Some of the biggest advertisers and the highest CPMs are being paid by all these slot companies.

Some of the top slot companies are doing $4 billion a year on their slot apps.

It's just crazy money.

Holy crap.

That's all profit because there's no really cost.

Well, I mean, yeah, they have the development costs of their apps.

Well, other than that, but that's like a one-time.

Oh, yeah, no.

And that's why they're paying so much.

I mean, I have other friends too getting, you know, $5,000, $10,000 of video.

Damn.

I mean, it's just insane money.

There's a lot of money in this space.

And even the comps from the resorts are probably insane, too.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And I always get full room food and beverage.

They'll pay for your flights, airfare.

Wow.

You always get, you know, get anywhere $5,000 to $10,000 a day in free play.

And you get tickets to all the events, like UFC, UFC,

Legion Stadium.

Yeah, I went to the

Vegas Knights won the Stanley Cup.

I was here.

Yeah.

Going to the Super Bowl.

They got me tickets for that.

Dude, it was nuts.

They got U2.

Oh, they comped the spear too?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, I went to the...

Oh, yeah, because Venetian owns the spear or something?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So pretty much any show or any event, like, I've never had a problem getting into it.

I've had UFC great tickets.

Yeah, like face value says 5,000.

I don't know what that is or not.

No, Vegas Matt took me to the ice hockey game and it was front row.

I'm like, this is your life, man.

Every restaurant he goes into comped.

Oh, yeah.

There's like a thousand bucks of food.

Well, you know, it's all comp, but at the end of the day, we may have spent, you know, I may have gave $100,000 to get those two front rows.

That's true.

It's funny how the psychology of it works.

Yeah.

They make you feel amazing, but you're actually, if you do the math, you're most likely overspending on what they're comping you.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I'd probably be better off not gambling than

just paying my own way everywhere.

could say, but most casinos, you figure you should get about 10% in free play.

So if you go to a casino and you lost $100,000, you should get about $10,000 in free play on your next trip.

And then you should have about 10 to 15% in comps.

So if you go to the spa and you go everywhere,

on a $100,000 loss or playthrough in a casino,

figure $10,000 to $15,000 free play, $10,000 to $15,000 in comps.

I didn't know they did that on losses.

I'm not playing at a high enough level for them to even offer that, I bet.

Yeah.

Well, you probably get like free buffets, free plays, free stuff like that.

Have you checked out Fountain Blue yet?

Yeah, so I actually went down there yesterday.

Nice.

Did you gamble?

I did not gamble there.

Okay.

What do you think of it?

You know, I honestly thought

I did like the high ceilings.

I don't smoke.

I mean, I don't care that people do smoke, but I don't smoke.

So having the high ceilings was nice.

So I didn't have to.

You know, the air was much better than the other casinos that have low ceilings.

But

new smell looked nice.

But I was very unimpressed.

Really?

Yeah.

I was very, very disappointed.

I mean, for 16 years of building it or 12 years or whatever.

And

I felt it kind of seemed outdated.

I mean, kind of, you know, a lot of stuff still isn't open there, but I felt the slot machine selection wasn't the best for being all brand new machines.

I thought the high limit room looked like a tube that you kind of walk into.

Wow.

Um, they don't have fast pay on the floor, which for a brand new casino makes no sense.

What's up?

So, what fast pay is, especially like

at the levels that we're betting, um, and jackpots, which the government needs to change at some point, is a $1,200

or more is a jackpot.

So, when I'm betting, you know, $250 a spin, if I win six times my bet, it's like a person betting a dollar and winning $6, it's a jackpot.

So you have to wait for the slot attendant to come over and clear the machine.

So

five, six, seven years ago, they came out with fast pay.

So a lot of the high limit rooms have it.

But now most of the casino floors are adding that as well.

So if you hit, so and that's why I can hit so many jackpots because if I waited all night long for slide attendants, I mean, it would take, yeah, I mean, every time you hit a jackpot, if it took 10 minutes, seems outdated.

Yeah, and that's, well, there's two things outdated.

One is, yeah, casino technology needs to be updated.

And then the government, I know they were trying to pass at the end of Trump's time in office, they were trying to get it to $5,000.

But if you think about it, the $1,200 has been around since the 1970s or 80s.

Inflation.

Just inflation.

I mean, yeah.

Or even if you didn't want to do inflation, it should be based on the amount of your bet.

I mean, because there's machines, and I did for my birthday two years ago, I lost a quarter million dollars.

I did 50 spins at 5,000 a spin.

So even nothing on, I mean, just, you know,

I was betting 5,000, you know, a lot of times two on machines, if you, uh, you can win less than you, your bet size.

So even on a $5,000 spin, I win $1,500 as a jackpot.

Wow, that doesn't make sense.

Yeah.

So they, and I mean, there's $1,000 machines I've done a lot of spins on.

So they definitely need to change the laws.

I mean, definitely like $5,000 or something would make a lot of sense, but I think it needs to be more based on the amount of the bet.

So if the machines, if you're betting $1,000, it should be like 50 times that bet or something.

Got it.

Like a multiple.

Yeah.

Just something realistic.

Because like I said, there's machines now that you can bet 5,000 a spin.

So no matter anything you get, it's going to be a jackpot.

Right.

How are you stomaching some of these big losses, man?

Has it got you emotionally?

You know,

it did back in the day.

But I'm pretty big about preaching, especially to my audience.

I'm always like, don't play with what you don't have.

When I go to the casino, I expect to lose.

I know I'm going to lose eight out of 10 times.

I mean, it's,

you know i mean it's just part of it and sometimes i'll get a little down on myself and i feel disappointed when i lose but you know like they said if i'm doing something like really crazy or big i usually have it more of a planned event where it's like you know i'm going to be doing you know quarter million dollars five thousand dollars events this is a big event like people want to tune in and watch it and stuff so i'm i'm a little bit more geared up for it but uh my big you know my biggest thing was like i said just i always wanted to beat my biggest jackpot of a hundred thousand dollars and i never expected not a million man yeah that's that must be be a short list of people that have pulled that off.

Yeah, I mean, probably less than a couple of hundred,

I would think.

There should be a Wikipedia page for that.

Yeah, no, definitely.

People that have done that.

I'm working on in a couple of months doing a big event, Guinness Book of World Record, a certified event for the largest slot play ever.

Oh, yeah.

How much would you need to bet?

Well, yeah, so now

everything's kind of changed.

So originally, it was going to be like a million dollar.

I was actually going to go for the million-dollar Dragon Link and do like have a actually.

So the biggest I've ever done at once was $300,000 on the $5,000 spins, the Dragon Link machines go up to $2,500 a spin.

So the plan was to do a million dollars live.

Wow.

Million dollar slot play live for the, you know, sort of have them certify it as the biggest.

That's sick.

What's the record right now?

There is no record.

Oh, so you would set the whole category.

Yeah, but I figured, like, but I mean, I'm not going to go certify it for $200,000.

I wanted it to be, I mean, the whole idea was, you know, also to try and get my biggest jackpot of my life at the same time.

So it's kind of like now everything's kind of like changed up.

So what I'm trying to do or

something.

When I was a kid, I always wanted to get in that book, man.

Oh, yeah.

I got to figure out like if there's an angle with podcasting or something.

Maybe the largest podcast out there.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

I mean, that was every kid's dream growing up.

Oh, yeah, no.

Yeah.

Honestly, I think, and that's kind of like the same thing with nowadays.

I don't even know if most of the young people under 15 even know what the Guinness Booker World is.

I don't hear kids talking about it at all.

They talk about TikTok.

Yeah,

it's all about TikTok.

That's why I told my kids, it was funny.

I told my kids, I said, I go, is that pretty crazy?

I have 100,000 followers on TikTok and I haven't done one dance.

That was definitely a phase.

It was a cringy phase for years.

I never was about that phase.

So is there any skills in

slots at all?

So there is advantage slot players.

So some machines do have some advantages.

Back in the day, people used to say

if play the machines on the aisle or, you know, busy walkways or different, like those pay better.

But most of that's not nonsense.

But there are advantage slot games where like if you get so many,

like, so many green coins or yellow coins or so many like points, it has to hit by like a hundred or something.

So, there are some games like that where there is some advantage skill level.

I was actually playing a game last night, um, like the jackpot or the bonus had it hit by $8,000.

And basically, every spin I was doing at $200, it went up by $4.

Wow.

So, I was kind of bored and probably a stupid move, but I was like, you know what?

It's $800 away.

So, I basically knew for $20,000 a playthrough, I had to hit it.

So it cost me about $14,000 to $8,000.

God damn.

You just wanted to win it.

Yeah.

So I was like, you know, I'll clip that video like 10 minutes before.

I'll be like, look, I put 2,000 in.

I just got 8,000.

My biggest winner on this game.

Wow.

In the high limit rooms, is the only difference the money you're betting?

Is there any other differences?

I mean, usually the level of service is hopefully better by the casinos.

Also, in the high limit rooms, they usually have like premium drinks.

Okay.

Are you drinking while you're playing?

You know, sometimes I do.

I'm not, I drink, you know, back home because I have restaurants and bars and stuff.

So sometimes like Vegas for me is like, I need to break from drinking.

Yeah.

And I also try and like, you know, I mean, obviously, like they say, you know, I mean, you know, the more you drink, probably the worse decisions you make.

The more you live in.

Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why the drinks are free in Vegas and nowhere else.

Yeah.

Do you have any good luck charms?

Do you believe in any of that pre-game stuff?

You know, not really.

I give out to fans all the time.

I have my good luck chips, and they're always winning with them and doing well.

They come up to me and they're like, look, it's still in my pocket.

I hit this jackpot, they'll send me a picture and stuff, which is great.

But yeah, I'm not very superstitious.

I don't like to walk on cracks, you know, and scoop over the cracks and walking down the street.

That's a classic one.

Yeah, but yeah, no, everything else, I'm kind of like, I mean, like I said, the slots are just pure luck.

I mean,

there's, like I said, if you ever meet a slot player and he tells you he's ahead, unless he hit that million dollars and bets really low, they're lying.

You see it more in poker, I think, with the good luck charms.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because poker's more, I guess there's a lot of luck in it, but it's more skilled too.

Well, poker is, I mean, it's your attitude.

I mean,

your demeanor and what somebody's trying to read and bluffing.

Absolutely.

Yeah, and stuff.

Plus,

I've done poker a little bit.

A lot of my fans have asked me to do poker.

And I guess I've done some, but

I don't have the patience to sit there.

It's too slow.

And like I said,

and you have to think, and it is working.

That's why the slots have just been mindless entertainment.

I just come up with some of my biggest business ideas and yeah stuff yeah let's talk business actually because I've never seen you dive into your business stuff what are you doing there so um back in early the early days I was the uh well originally I started in restaurants I started great Scott Theatery a chain of restaurants in Colorado 24-day family restaurants and then I got in this uh I opened my first bar when I so I started that when I was 20 I opened my first bar when I turned 21 so I was in the hospitality business for the first 10 years of my life and also I did vending machines oh yeah when I was 16 years old or 50, excuse me, 15 years old, my mom got me two vending machines.

So I started little candy machines.

And then I got into video games and pinball machines and pool tables, jukeboxes.

So when I started my restaurant, by the time I was 20, I think I had about three, 400 video games.

I had about 10,000 gumball machines.

And I've always just been an entrepreneur, worker, trying to make money and do stuff.

Never was really big about school and going to college.

Oh, so you never went?

No.

So during my high school career, I wasn't doing good in school.

So I took the restaurant arts program.

And so that's where I learned a lot with the restaurants and cooking.

That's cool.

Now, to make it in the restaurant industry, you hear the margins are thin and not a lot of people make it.

What do you think you did differently to make it?

Yeah.

I mean, I would put in 18, 20 hours a day.

My first restaurants, you know, look like makeshift.

Everybody would go in there.

I just, every dollar I made, I just kept reinvesting in my businesses and fixing them up, making them look nicer.

And

like I said, too, I think it was just the time.

It It was easy to do things 30 years ago.

It's hard right.

I mean, I was buying, I got big into real estate.

I have almost 200, actually I have over 200 properties now.

It was like, you know, my original restaurants, I was buying for, you know, 135,000 bank repos back then with 10% down.

So, I mean, you could open up a business for, you know, a restaurant for 30, 40,000.

Wow.

I mean, my last remodel I did was almost a million dollars on a restaurant.

So it's, it's crazy.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, you just do so much more back then.

It was, you know, like the loans were 10% down.

Now, it's 25%, 30%.

And the interest is crazy.

Yeah.

Interest was kind of high back then, too.

Oh, it was?

Yeah.

I think it was, I mean, probably where it was now.

But it was, we were coming off the first, you know, big recession back then in like the early 1990s and stuff.

But, um, but yeah, so I had the restaurant business, vending machines, and then I stumbled in when I was about 30 into the internet.

Okay.

Just kind of was looking for stuff, used to watch CNBC and got into it.

And I started with a company online just selling pagers.

and then that moved into like Ginsu knives and then I found discovered diet pills and I came out with like Inferno melt your fat away and second inferno and then started I was like you know what I'm spending all this money I'm collecting all this data started building an email list and then I became known as the spam king so that was just spam people that's what they said I thought it was opt-in email marketing

and I was funny on the daily show they did a clip on me it's hilarious clip is uh I was like uh high high volume email deployer um but it was pre-canned spam This is like 2001-2.

Oh, sorry.

They made that law because of you?

That was a big part of it.

Actually, so funny, so funny story.

So, Vegas Matt was actually working for my friend who I was working with.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

She knew him for a while.

Yeah, he was in New York working with him in 2000, like, you know, two, three.

So we actually all got sued by the New York AG and Microsoft at the same time.

Not Matt, but the guy he was working for.

Oh, okay.

So we all got sued.

Microsoft sued me for $50 million.

For emailing people?

Yeah, so they didn't really have any laws back then.

It was kind of like the Wild West.

So you weren't breaking any laws.

You weren't breaking any criminal laws, but you were breaking, you know, people that say, well, and you have to remember, like, you were paying by the minute to use AOL and dial-up.

Oh, so people were getting charged when you emailed them.

Yeah, they'd open their email and they were on 12 seconds.

I could see why they would be upset that.

Yeah, so it was a whole different day back before spam filters.

And it was just crazy the money.

I went from working my off in restaurants and trying to make a living to all of a sudden I'm making $50,000 a day.

Damn, off emails?

Oh, it's nuts.

The money crazy.

Yeah, it was crazy.

What were you selling?

Just anything you could imagine.

Like Vistaprint was a big one back then for business cards online.

Wow.

I used to use that from a business school.

But I mean, it was like casinos, diet products.

I had, you know, little mini microphones.

I had cell phone stickers that went on the back of your stabs.

Yeah.

Oh, the big one was Iraqi playing cards.

Iraqi playing cards.

Yeah.

That was, I don't know if if you ever, well, back when we invaded Iraq, they had like the top 50 most wanted people in Iraq.

Oh, no, I never saw that.

That was huge.

But yeah, that was crazy.

Like, I went,

I think by 2007 or 8, I was in the Forbes 500 fastest growing business.

I was doing, I did like $108 million that year.

What?

Oh, it was insane.

I got sued by MySpace.

I got sued.

I bid over $20 million in fines.

Oh, my gosh.

But you were making so much you didn't even know.

Yeah, I just told it was the cost of doing business.

It was funny when Microsoft, and I grew up, I always played uh hockey and stuff.

So when I got sued by Microsoft and Euro KG, the uh, you know, all the reporters, you know, called me and they were, you know, wanted to meet and interviews, you know, and stuff.

And I was like, yeah, and I was like, yeah, I'll be at the hockey ranking coming up.

You're going to go play hockey?

You just got sued for 20 million.

I was like, yeah, like, and what am I going to do?

Stop my life?

Like, I'm going to keep making money.

So you're good at separating the emotional side of business.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not married to any of my businesses.

When I've sold them and exited them,

I'm really big in the domain space.

I have chiller domain names.

Oh, yeah, which ones?

Well, I just sold affiliate.com.

Wow, that's a good one.

That was a good one.

So I just sold that one.

And I also just sold text.com.

Text?

T-E-X-T.com.

Oh, wow.

You had text.com, bro.

But I still have like airline.com.

I have a lot of names.

I just sold Pete.com.

But I have

Elmo.com, Dora.com.

So a lot of your success is just being there early.

Yeah,

in the space.

It's like I tell people in the online advertising and online business and affiliate space business, you have to reinvent yourself every two years.

Like, nothing lasts forever.

Like, it just keeps changing.

But, yeah,

one of my names right now is Broncos.com.

I've had

the Denver Broncos didn't approach you yet?

I've tried to sell it to them a few times.

New ownership, maybe they would change.

Got a message to me.

I've been offered free season tickets for live.

I've been offered different things.

That's probably not worth the domain.

Yeah, the Rockies.

Well, the Rockies, Colorado Rockies, the Rockies paid a million and a half to get Rockies.com.

Wow.

And I was actually,

I was offering it to them for like a half a million.

I was like, yeah,

it should be a million dollar domain name.

Yeah.

People don't, it, and so I actually have like their schedule on it.

And I, you always have to make sure with names, there's no copyright infringement and stuff.

So I actually

have their links to their

through FNAT, Fanatics, their store, and everything.

Okay.

So

I mean, I make sure I follow the rules and stuff.

Do you have like an affiliate link?

Yeah, but it was great.

Like when they won the Super Bowl, they made like 10 grand that month.

Damn.

Yeah, every holiday season it does well before the season starts.

Yeah.

When Wilson's joined the team, his jersey sales.

But yeah, I have just a ton of domains.

I have about 80,000 80,000 domain names.

Holy sh ⁇ .

I think now I'm a little bit lower, but how did you buy that many?

Just kept buying.

And I had a lot of typos back in the day.

That was really big.

The problem now is with smart browsers,

you don't get that kind of traffic.

So an example back 15 years ago, if you had Facebook with 1.0 or something or Google with 1.0,

stuff like that would get just massive traffic.

Oh, I used to always fall for those.

With people just missed typing them on.

Or like I had Elmo.com, Dora.com.

So for the, like everybody's looking for elmo gifts or yes you know that's funny but now they've they rerouted all those to the main ones yeah like if you typed in elmo.com it'll probably take you to sesame street.com yeah that's cool to see you diversify your your money into different assets like real estate domains and businesses yeah well like i tell people especially i mean people don't understand the power of these domains like i have necklace.com i have i mean just tons like if you went to new york you know and you wanted to have the number one jewelry or necklace store on you know madison or the fifth avenue or whatever the yeah you know i mean how many millions and millions of of dollars would it cost you you know and i'm like you know warren buffett he owns all these jewelry stores he could buy necklace.com have the number one necklace site online and you know doesn't have to spend you know 20 million dollars to be on park avenue that's true a good domain automatically builds trust yes and that's that's why i try and explain to people and i've done a lot of deals where i lease out my names to people for businesses yeah like skinny.com i leased out um

because like i said it it's it's instant trust yeah that's cool yeah like uh plunge.com they're doing a hundred million a year and that's a great domain.

So you just automatically trust, like they sell cold plunges.

Oh, yeah, no, when you have the brand, it makes it easy.

And then the big thing, so the biggest thing for me ever, whereas doing the 100 million plus a year, was ringtones, which is crazy because ringtones don't even exist today.

I mean, they're free today, I should say.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't even use them anymore.

Yeah, nobody does.

Or they're free.

Like I said, you just took a clip of it.

Back then, we were selling you, you know, $9.99 a month, ringtone.

And, you know,

get the daily joke of the day, get a tarot card reading of the day for an extra $2.99 a month.

month.

Yeah, ringtones.

That's how Soldier Boy blew up back in the day.

The rapper?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he just put his ringtone on everyone's phone.

No one wanted it there, but.

Yeah, no, so the ringtones have been a huge.

That was my really big one where, like,

where my revenue exceeded 100 million a year.

Like I said, it's just crazy.

Yeah.

So are you still seeking insane revenue opportunities?

Are you just chilling with the slot stuff at this point?

No, I'm always looking for stuff to do.

You know what?

It's kind of hard once you've made it and been successful because, you know, it's like,

like I always tell people, I have a hundred ideas a day that can make a you know a hundred dollars a day but I can't implement a hundred ideas and I can't run it so and it's kind of hard like I want to have stuff that can make you know I'm looking for the always for the thing that's going to make millions of dollars a month or you know and be a big deal because I know the effort and the time you have to put in stuff and it's kind of it's it's depressing at times like you I mean imagine if you have you know 80 100 employees you're doing 110 million dollars this year and you know you know now you have you know 15 employees and you're doing 30 million a year yeah it's a big deal yeah so it's kind of like, I mean, obviously it's different, you know, real estate, rental, and you know, I mean, you know, the income just keeps coming in and I have no debt.

So it's, I mean, it's, it's great.

Also, property tax, it's, you know, a home run.

And, um,

but yeah, it's like, I'm always looking for something fun to do.

And, and this, like, the gambling, it is kind of tough because sometimes it does wear on you and the travel.

I mean, I'm on the road, you know, two and a half, three weeks of the month going to casinos all over.

I just got back from Europe.

We're going to, I've been in Vegas three times in the last month.

Yes, you got no time to watch.

I came like last week I was here.

I came out of Mississippi at a casino that I, yeah, I had to fly to Dallas to get to, and there's no direct flight.

Then I had to drive an hour and a half to Indian Reservation in the middle of nowhere.

And then take a three-hour car ride from there to Alabama to get a direct flight to Vegas.

It's kind of like a touring group.

Yes.

And, but I do try and do all these meeting greets and get out to see my fans because, you know, just like I said, it's just like a touring group.

They want to meet you.

They want to see you.

And they love to just come watch me gamble.

It's, it's, you know.

I'm going to have to make it out, see what it's all about man yeah no it's fine you know what i try and do is put you in the machine or like so it's you get that real life experience and most people either say they love this i save them a ton of money because they can just watch me they can just watch me gamble and they don't have to go to the casino and lose all their money and then and then you get those other people who are like i watched you you just won i ran to the casino i lost you know 700 i can't pay my rent can you can you loan me and i get that a lot and i'm like i just i always wonder i'm like yeah some of these stories are very depressing and yeah and they i mean they put a lot of of effort into them or college students who lost all their money.

And I think that's going to be the next really, really big thing that the government, this is going to be interesting with all this online gambling now.

So you have the sports betting, you know, in a lot of like 20-plus states now.

But, you know, some of the states have online casino gambling too on the slots, on their apps.

But this is becoming a really big, this is going to be the next big thing.

This is going to be a hurdle because at least casinos, you had some control, you have to go there, but this sports betting.

These, you know, you know, young college kids are getting wiped out.

I mean, they're, I mean, this is going to become a big problem in in the future they're probably gonna have to step in at some point right i don't know how yeah i mean i i don't know how you step in because obviously gambling's there

you know but when you have something on you know at your hand it's you know i mean these these kids are you know spending their whole entire savings you know yeah betting 20 games a day 50 you know well i think i think in the case of sports betting if you're selling sports picks you should verify your own results somehow like have some sort of system where it could be verified because people say obnoxious claims oh yeah 150 wins two losses yeah that should be able to be verified.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, definitely stuff like that.

But I'm just saying, even the people who aren't buying verified, I'm just saying when you put something in the hands of somebody that they can just lose all their money, you know, it's, and I think it took so long to even get to this point where the states would allow it because, you know, they had the biggest criminal racket with, you know, lottery tickets.

Yeah.

You know, I was a six-year-old in 50% hold.

You know, you can't win.

But yeah, no, I know that's like becoming, but it is depressing when people are right.

Like, it's like, you know, I was right back.

I'm like, how about go get a second job?

Go get a third job.

Oh, you know, I tried.

Nobody's hiring.

I'm like, I don't know.

It's plenty of places.

If you want to work and you need, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not a fan of the victim mentality.

Like you, you go in and gamble just because you watch someone.

It's still your decision.

Yeah.

That's what I tell.

Yeah.

That's like you're a grown adult.

If you're 21 plus, you know, the casino, you made your decision, not me.

I don't like when people blame others.

I mean, you're an adult, man.

No, especially like they said, these hardship stories.

And I always wonder, I always, then I kind of think I'm like, you know, sometimes I'll be like, oh, you only needed $8,000.

You sure don't want 20?

Well, you know, if you want to give me the 20, that's cool.

I'm just like, I'm like, how many people do they write to a day that actually are like, you know what, man, God, I just read your story.

I'm sending you, here's $5,000.

No, there's $100.

No one's sending money.

I just, yeah, but they keep right.

So I just get them too.

I'm like, guys in India or somebody just messaging me for money.

Yeah, those ones, yeah, those are scammers.

But I'm saying, like, the people in America are your fans.

I watch you every day.

They know everything about me.

They're like, how many people do you write?

Like, do they go home and tell their wife, like, yeah, you know what?

You know, they have a great opportunity for you.

I spoke to the Raj.

I asked him for the $7,000 we need.

I told him about the new baby.

That's a weird life.

There's a still, he hasn't got back to me.

Like, I'm like, what are you guys?

People probably have a lot of parasocial relationships with you that you don't even know about.

Yeah.

No, you do have your best fans.

And it's great having the fans.

But yeah, no, it's, it is crazy how like some because our watch time is so high and in the beginning I always forgot about that or I wasn't used like I was more of an analytics person and I wasn't really like an I'm not Mr.

Outgoing personality.

Yeah.

Which I, you know, like I said, I'm the operation guy.

Like, I'm going to get this stuff done and we're going to make a lot of money.

I was never, I was never the face of it.

Yeah.

Scott, it's been fun, man.

Anything you want to close off with our promote?

No, just, you know, definitely check me out.

If you haven't watched me, my channel is the big jackpot.

I go by Raja, and I'm on Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, X, Threads, Clapper.

We got to get you a deal on Kick or Rumble.

Oh, so, yeah.

Oh, so actually, I am on Rumble.

Oh, no.

Yes, I am on Rumble.

And actually, another funny story.

I just need to mention that real quick.

My friend was the founder and the largest shareholder of Rumble.

Damn.

yeah, okay, so he started it.

So, uh, yeah, small world, yeah, small world, and I am working with uh stake.com to have a dual-on kick also.

Nice, all right, man.

Great, great chatting.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Kept it real with the slots.

I love that.

See you next time.