Making Millions off Tik Tok Shop, 75 Hard & Meeting Dan Bilzerian | Weston Corica DSH #323

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Weston Corica comes on the Digital Social Hour to discuss how he makes tens of millions with ecommerce, the future of tik tok shop and what he learned from Dan Bilzerian.

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Your product on TikTok.

Like, I could never, I have never seen an opportunity like this.

You could literally start right now with no capital, find a product that's selling, go to fastmosk.com, look at the top-selling products, sign up as an affiliate for that program through TikTok affiliate.

Start making videos, promoting that product with your iPhone for free, and start earning commissions immediately.

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All right.

We are back, guys.

We're learning TikTok shop here today.

We got Weston Carica here in the building all the way from San Diego.

San Diego.

What's going on, Lauren?

Not much, not much.

Thanks for having me.

I'm really pumped to be on here and talk about some e-commerce, some TikTok shop, money, whatever we're.

Talking about.

I'm pretty pumped.

I'm excited because from a user standpoint, just shopping on TikTok, it's so easy.

It's super innovative.

I feel like shopping is just like more personal now.

It really is.

I mean, we have now entered into kind of the era of social commerce, right?

So normally, like back in the day, it'd be like you're shopping on Amazon.

All you have basically is a one-sided experience where you get to read customer reviews, you get to read kind of the product listing and whatnot, and you have to kind of make a buying decision.

Now, with TikTok Shop, there's other creators and other people that are like making content about the product that are so much more trustworthy that it's now kind of a two-sided experience.

You know, you get feedback from not only, you know, you get to read the listing and you know, see what the seller has to say, but you now can see what other affiliate creators are saying.

So it's just such a better experience, not only for, you know, the end customer, but also for the brand owners as well, because they get that, you know, affiliate marketing, that social proof that's needed to, you know, make a lot of sales.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I feel like it was necessary in the development of e-commerce because e-commerce was getting a bit kind of stale, you know what I mean?

Just like a landing page and felt outdated.

For sure.

And I mean, also too, what TikTok has done a fantastic job of doing is they have created a flywheel.

So I have never seen something like this before, but literally they have created a flywheel to where they have content creators come into their platform.

They put out content marketing products, right?

which is good for not only the brand.

So now you have free traffic for the brand.

So now brands come to the platform.

And, you know, ultimately also when you have the best brands, the best creators, the customer is going to get the best experience.

So they've really created a flywheel that really markets itself, which is why TikTok shop will be, I think, even bigger than Amazon, just because it has that flywheel of growth, which is kind of that affiliate, that new affiliate creator model.

Wow, bigger than Amazon.

I think so.

That would be crazy.

Yeah, I mean, Amazon's still, you know, going to absolutely crush it, but they don't have that marketing flywheel.

They don't have

that virality factor that TikTok has, right?

So TikTok has literally

basically

created a huge social media platform where you get tons of views, there's tons of traffic there, and they have now morphed it and monetized it into an e-commerce platform that's directly competing with Amazon, which is wild.

Yeah.

They're also launching TikTok fulfillment as well, to where you're going to be able to get your orders kind of like it's Amazon Prime.

Oh, wow.

So TikTok is an absolute behemoth that people really need to start paying attention to.

Yeah.

And they give good like coupons and discounts.

I ordered a bunch of stuff and it was super cheap.

yeah, they're subsidizing the hell out of the platform right now.

Yeah, to get users.

Oh, yeah.

Like during the holidays, they were given like 40% off coupons to all kinds of

yeah, like literally giving money away and we're making the money.

So they're actually paying us to sell on the platform.

What?

As wild as that is.

Well, they're giving the customer 40% off, but we're getting 100% of the value, right?

Does that make sense?

They're subsidizing us.

Wow.

You're just printing money.

Basically.

You're still getting the full price, even though it's 40% off.

Correct, correct.

That is cool.

So I don't think that's going to be around for long.

Now they're also increasing their platform fee.

So the platform fee was 2%

plus 30 cents each order.

And now they just bumped it up to 8%.

So they're like, they're going to corner the market.

They're going to draw in all the traffic, all the customers, all the affiliates, all the sellers, and they're going to raise the price just like most companies would do in their situation.

They got to make money.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

So what type of products or industries are working well for you right now?

Yeah.

So on TikTok Shop, I mean, the best way to, if you want to make money on TikTok Shop, the best way to do it is you first need to use a tool called fastmoss.com.

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I mean, it's just pretty, pretty standard stuff.

I've seen disgusting numbers from a few sellers.

Like on Black Friday, shout out to this brand called Rise.

I don't know if you've seen them.

They sell the energy drinks and the protein powders and whatnot.

You know, we saw them via Fast Moss, like the data, they did like over $2 million in one day on Black Friday, which is just, it's wild, you know, for a brand that's kind of a startup that's not, you know, a big name brand yet.

Like I'm, I wasn't actually familiar with Rise before I saw them on TikTok.

But they did, I was looking at their numbers and watching them.

They did over $2 million in one day on Black Friday on TikTok.

So shout out to those guys.

guys guys are i wonder how they're calculating those numbers um i think that the uh your seller account actually shares data with tick tock via the api and then these softwares can just pull that data and so they show all the creator uh the affiliate creator data as well as the seller data so that's why like the fast moss tool is like literally the best analytics yeah i'm gonna check that out that's cool you should definitely these affiliates must be making money too they're making racks they're making racks yeah like i have never seen an opportunity like this where you could literally start an online business with your iPhone and no capital and start making content and making videos for other companies that are providing all the products, all the inventory, et cetera, and just make commissions on marketing your product on TikTok.

Like I could never, I have never seen an opportunity like this.

You could literally start right now with no capital, find a product that's selling, go to fastmoss.com, look at the top selling products, sign up as an affiliate for that program through TikTok affiliate,

start making videos, promoting that product with your iPhone for free, and start earning commissions immediately, right?

That's why whenever I see, whenever somebody asks me, like, what's, how should I get started in e-commerce?

I always tell them, you need to get started with the least amount of risk because that's the biggest mistake people make when they're starting their business, right?

They think that they need to invest all this money in inventory.

That's like their biggest mistake is that people always want to invest money and like.

like go balls to the wall right in the beginning when they don't even know how to market stuff.

Yeah.

Right.

So when you're starting an e-commerce business, you don't know what you're doing yet.

So the best way to start is by using OPM.

And today, the best way to use OPM is to just piggyback on top of these brands that are on TikTok and sell their products and just make commissions because you don't need to invest in inventory.

They've already provided it for you.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Cause you've done over nine figures and that was all self-funded, right?

Right.

So a little bit of background on us.

We actually started in 2014.

I started selling t-shirts.

That's how everyone starts.

Right.

And like, so when I was in high school, I was like like following this guy named Nikki Diamonds you're probably familiar with that guy and he had like the Ferrari he had the roles he was super popular he was crushing it on Instagram I was like that guy is

man like I I want to be like that guy and that's kind of what my you know 17 year old brain was was thinking and then I graduated high school and then I met my business partner

who was actually a good friend of mine from from middle school but we kind of rekindled our relationship after I graduated high school and I was like dude I want to start a business we started a t-shirt business sold four shirts and didn't know what the hell we were doing, right?

And I realized that I knew nothing, basically.

I didn't know how to market, didn't know how to sell.

I just basically knew how to make designs on my computer and like put them on a t-shirt.

That was the.

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The length of, that was the depth of my skill set, if that makes sense, you know?

so after that though um we realized that we needed to use these other platforms because they have all the traffic so when you don't know how to market things and you don't know how to like build a website you don't know how to like build an offer yourself what you can do is you could use other platforms that were uh created that have all the customers already right so we actually started on ebay and we started um basically buying products from alibaba china um and just listing them on ebay and selling them on ebay we also were listing them on uh OfferUp, if you're familiar with that.

Yeah, yeah.

And Mercari.

And that's kind of how we got into the e-commerce side of things.

We went from t-shirts to that.

And our first big product where I really knew that e-commerce was

a huge opportunity was we actually hit the hoverboard trend really hard where we saw that like young thug was posting videos of him on a hoverboard.

We're like, this is going to blow up.

And so what we did was basically started drop shipping hoverboards on eBay.

So I actually got my dad's eBay account.

Because you're an ATP because i was i was young and i like didn't have any sort of i had nothing you couldn't i didn't even have a bank account dude like i had literally nothing but i was like dad i want to make money he didn't even uh he didn't really sell on there he just had an open account so what did we start doing all we did was saw that their hoverboards were selling it was like a big market all we did was make listings on ebay and just list the products and we started selling like three hoverboards a day five hoverboards and you were drop shipping 10 hoverboards a day and we didn't even have the inventory right and so we were like panicked we're like we need to go get inventory So we just went to Alibaba and we just messaged all the suppliers and we're like, hey, we need you to like literally get the product and ship it to these customers.

And anyways, I was, I think, a sophomore in college at the time at this point.

And I remember

being in summer school class because I was behind on credits.

And I was just looking at my eBay account.

It was just dinging off sales.

And I was like, holy shit.

Like, I just made like $3,000 like sitting in my class and I don't even have the inventory.

Right.

So that's kind of what got us into e-commerce.

And that's kind of where I got, you know, our original bank roll.

And, you know, we can go on and on on the story and everything, but we basically started with zero dollars and we were able to just

get through launching new products, learning every single time that we did something and just rolled all the profits back into the business

and basically, you know, have been able to scale it to where we are now.

Yeah, you're doing eight figures a month now, right?

Close to it.

Close to it.

That's insane, dude.

Is that mainly TikTok shop shop or is it?

Yeah, it's a lot through TikTok Shop, Amazon, Shopify, and Walmart.

So we're basically all e-commerce related.

And we plan on hopefully going into retail in the next year or two, but retail is a whole nother animal, man.

Yeah, exactly.

You're dealing with net 180.

Yeah, like the actual financing is hammered.

And the retailers also, they want to squeeze you.

They want to squeeze you hard for the profit margins.

And they also want to squeeze you on the payment terms.

They want to squeeze you on the distro.

So for example, if like we are absolutely smashing it on TikTok, let's just say, and our product goes viral and we need to get more inventory,

they will say no.

They need the inventory.

And so then you have way less flexibility when we're going to be making way more money on TikTok.

So it doesn't really make sense, you know, at this juncture to go retail because of how hard they squeeze you.

Like there's no reason.

Like the e-commerce, you know, traffic and just the growth that we're seeing is so much, is so crazy that it just, it just dwarfs everything else.

Yeah, that makes sense.

In terms of finding the creators on TikTok to partner with, do they do that for you or are you manually outreaching?

Both.

Okay.

So there's basically, if you want to get started with affiliate marketing as a brand on TikTok shop, there's two ways to do it.

One is you need to start marketing your own product first, right?

So if you get views and you start making sales, affiliates will pick you up.

They're going to see that you're making sales.

They're like, oh, shit, like I can make money with this product too because you're pumping out views.

You're making sales, you're successful, right?

And organically, affiliates will see that and they'll pick up your product and they will start marketing it.

And then when they get views and they get sales, other affiliates will see them and it just snowballs, man.

And the second one is you can just do guerrilla marketing outreach, direct outreach to all the affiliates that you possibly can on TikTok.

And that also works.

It's just a very manual process.

And some of the affiliates, they kind of just see through that.

They're like, this is like, I don't want to, you know, why should I work with this company?

They're brand new.

So I would say that just the best option is like be successful yourself and all the affiliates will see that you're successful and they'll hop on and they'll make you go viral.

Yeah, that's way easier than manually starting from scratch, probably.

Yeah.

Like, I mean, you should do both, but like the, the, the, main, the name of the game is like, once you're successful, it's, it's like, it's a bell curve, right?

I'm sorry, not a bell curve.

It's a hockey stick, right?

So you, you show that you're successful, affiliates pick it up and then they're successful and more and more affiliates hop on and literally, you will go viral.

Yeah.

Like, because everyone now is trying to make money with your brand.

It's like literally the best thing ever.

When you wake up, and a hundred creators have made a video marketing your product today, and you have done nothing.

You just wake up and you must feel nice.

It feels great.

You know, it's like, oh, 87 videos were posted today, and like literally like 4 million views and thousands of sales, and you didn't do anything.

All you did was made a successful product, you know, and then just started the process.

And then they all bandwagon on top of that success you know i really like the way tick tock does it because it doesn't feel like an ad it feels authentic right and that's how it should be it should be literally an affiliate creator giving them giving their uh you know potential viewer their two cents yeah like a product that could be like user generated content like product reviews uh you know maybe some videos that are like why you shouldn't take this product or use this product why you should blah blah blah there's so many different ways to to do it and then nowadays with ai like literally, I think the best way to start a seven-figure online business right now is through leveraging AI and TikTok shop.

You can literally use ChatGPT to write the scripts.

You can use Dolly or Midjourney to create images.

And you can use CapCut to just make the videos.

Wow.

Right.

And you can just be marketing other people's products without showing your face and earn commissions.

That's cool.

A lot of people are shy.

Right.

And like, so if you don't want to show your face, that's the best way to do it you know and there's tons of videos on tick tock and i'm sure you've probably seen them too where it's like the 11 labs voiceovers oh that that guy that yeah like that's adam yeah from 11 labs that's that's the name of the game right write the script with chat gpt

make the images with mid journey and and dolly and use 11 labs as the voiceover and then edit it all together in cap cut post the video marketing the product man it's like that simple

it's it's insane do you prefer starting these brands from scratch or are you looking because you're at a high level now are you requiring any brands Yeah.

So

my company, like in the past, right, all we have done is basically build brands.

But in the last year, we have started to actually partner with what we call our brand partners, which is any brand anywhere from 500K or even more per year that already has some experience, some success under their belt.

We will partner with you and give you our systems to scale from 500K per year to 5 million, 50 million, whatever it is that we could possibly do with you, right?

Like obviously not all brands will be able to be scaled.

There's, you know, there's, if you, if you're in a smaller niche, obviously, you know, there's, you can't, you can't scale that that high, right?

But in the health, beauty, um, pet space, like the mark, the potential market share is huge.

So, um, yeah, so basically my company is called Webstone, and there's three different ways that you could work with us.

Number one is you can partner with us as an affiliate.

So we have tons of products.

We have tons of brands.

And so if basically, if you just DM me, I can show you how to do affiliate marketing.

I will give you the products to market and you know we can make money together that way.

And it's a win-win for me and you because not only are you making money, but I'm making money, right?

The second way is through brand partnerships, where if you have an e-commerce brand doing anywhere from 500K to a million or more per year, we'll partner with you, we'll help you research and develop products, we'll help, we'll plug you into our affiliate network, we'll blow you up, right?

And so the third way is through if you want to work for us, right?

So we're always needing talent.

We always need, we need video editors, we need copywriters,

we need lawyers, like we need basically everything, you know?

So

that's basically the three different ways that you can work with us now.

But the brand partnerships is

honestly the worst way, in my opinion, because it does require the most work, the most risk, the most capital.

The best way to make money online right now is literally affiliate marketing.

Affiliate.

There's no other better way.

I've made millions off it.

It's so easy.

It is.

I mean, if you have a built-in following, especially it's easier for someone with followers.

But like, dude, if the product or offer is good, you're just putting a link.

1,000%.

But it's not that hard.

That is the name of the game is having the best product and the best offer.

Because if you have the best of the best, the product and the offer sells itself.

Yeah, for sure.

And so then as the affiliate, your job is so easy.

You just have to run traffic to this.

beautiful offer that already converts for you and you just show you just basically show it to the world and make commissions you know that's like the best case scenario now if you're running a offer you can still make money but it's way less fun and way less profitable way harder way harder and that's what happened to me at first i was yeah promoting weird stuff but now that i really dialed in on the offer side it's easy oh yeah and that's like the biggest headache for affiliate marketers is not having the right offer because like then you're just like failing and yeah you don't think it doesn't work

it's literally just like that one offer that one product that you pick up and it does well for you it will change your life absolutely for real yeah that happened to me last year man when i had that first good offer nice um so you mentioned at 17, you had no skills.

What are some skills you'd recommend people develop to earn six to seven figures?

Yeah, I think the top three seven figure skills that will just like push you over that hump from just being kind of an average person to a high-level performer.

Number one is sales.

I have never met anyone that can sell stuff that is broke, that is not.

uh successful right so a funny little more background on us is that uh in the beginning when we were still figuring out our e-commerce business, like I told you, we had lots of failures.

Like even though we hit hoverboards hard, we hit fidget spinners really hard.

We did really well, right?

But hitting trends versus building a real business is such a different thing.

Yeah.

Like it's so much, it's so easy to hit trends if you like are in that style, in that business, right?

Like you see it coming and you're there.

It's a, it's a timing thing and the money will flow to you, right?

But building a real business is hard.

without the trends, right?

So we actually failed so many different times when we were first starting that we actually um we knew what we were doing but due to our failures we had no capital because we had invested in these certain products and they failed and there went our money there went on our profits right so we actually started a consulting business on the side to help other sellers launch their brands uh market their products do whatever you know that they needed to do to be successful right and in order to get clients what did we have to do we had to sell right so um that's the number one skill and i basically i i'm selling right now like i'm selling you guys on myself, my business.

I'm selling you guys on TikTok shop.

And so if you can't sell, you're really putting yourself at a disadvantage.

And I think the second one,

as funny as this is, the second one is going to be self-discipline.

There's no other, you know, there's no other way around it, right?

Because if you cannot control yourself, then you can't lead others.

And if you can't lead others, how are you going to build a super successful, a big company?

No one's going to believe in you.

No one's going to follow you.

No one's going to, to everyone's going to think that you're uh you're full of yeah right so if you can't figure out you know if you can't control what you put in your mouth and how you condition your body and how you and how you maintain your physique and your health if you can't lead yourself you can't lead others so that's the second one the third one that has maybe not will work for everybody the third one that has made me a ton of money is learning how to run ads

and that's simple as that right so and that the funny thing about that is that it's not just the ads, it all starts with the product.

Yeah.

So if you are running ads at a terrible product, even though you know how to run ads, you're going to lose money.

Yep.

So I would say number three is learning how to run ads, but it all goes back to the product.

So actually I would say number three is learning how to develop a fantastic product slash offer, which is kind of one in the same.

Yeah.

Right.

So number three is developing the best possible offer and the best possible product and then advertising that product.

And once you have the best offer and the best product, it basically sells yourself, sells itself, excuse me.

And

once it starts selling itself and you know how to run ads, you just basically pour jet fuel on this

with money and scale it up from there.

And

those three things really changed my life.

Yeah, I love all of those.

Your second one talking about discipline.

I know you did 75 Hard.

What was that like?

Did you complete it on the first try?

Yeah, so 75 Hard literally changed my life.

Like before 75 Hard, I was actually making good money, but it's really that, it's that change of, it's that change of being a leader of yourself, self-leadership.

So that's what 75 Hard really taught me.

And shout out to Andy for Sella because that dude literally changed my life.

Like I was probably making, I don't know exactly how much like off the top, but I was probably, we were doing like multiple six figures, you know, like maybe a million a year, like doing just like average,

which is like still pretty good to some regard for most people's standards.

But like compared to what we've done now, it's life-changing, right?

So 75 Hard really just taught me that I was lying to myself,

right?

So for example, right?

I was working out before 75 hard.

I was dieting, but I would go off on the weekends and I would go get drunk with my friends and I would go eat a bunch of bad food.

And then I would come in on Monday and like a little hungover and a little bit fatter from the weekend.

And then I would go to the gym for four or five times a week and think that that would like make up for my bad decisions over the weekend, right?

Which is so not true.

Every single thing that you put in your mouth affects your entire performance.

So how you do one thing is how you do everything.

And that's what 75 Hard taught me is that you can't, you can't be this absolute weapon for five days out of the week and then f

two days.

You can't do that.

So if you basically put all of your efforts and all of your focus into just becoming the person that you want to become seven days a week 24 7 for 75 days and you don't lie to yourself and you stick to your diet you stick to your exercise you you you control what you put in your brain for 75 days your life will change yeah the momentum that that creates is wild like you would not expect it but like literally when i was uh doing my doing 75 hard i got like literally i met the most people i like wasn't drinking i went to parties and i like met way more people i had even a better time I met more women.

I made more money.

I got in, I got a six-pack.

Like it fully changed my life, you know, and I, but what's funny is I was working out before that like four or five times a week and I didn't have a six-pack.

Interesting.

You know, so like alcohol.

Literally the 20%

makes a hundred percent of the difference.

Yeah.

That is so cool, man.

I know a lot of people that have spoken super highly of it.

Some people even do it twice a year.

Yeah.

So I did 75 hard, completed that.

Then I did phase one.

And then there's like three phases of it.

Oh, yeah.

But then I kind of just turned it into a lifestyle almost like so now like I do drink on occasions but very rarely and I diet I barely I never really cheat on my diet

and I work out every single day nice you know and so what that does is that basically creates a routine that creates the man that I'm basically my standards are that which affects all the rest of my life in a positive way So if I, if I don't break character and I just continue to be that guy, then I, then I continue to be that guy.

As soon as I start going back to those old habits, drinking and eating poor food and making poor decisions, guess what?

It's going to affect the whole rest of my life.

That's true, man.

I saw on your Instagram you were with Dan Bazarian.

How did that happen?

Yeah, so I actually met

Dan through Instagram, just through posting content, which is crazy how your life can literally change just from posting videos on the internet.

But what I'll say about Dan is like, Dan is basically the guy that has literally achieved everything that basically anyone can achieve almost, you know, to most people's standards, especially most men's standards.

That guy has basically has basically won.

You know what I mean?

And what I learned from Dan Bilzerian is that

not only is he actually a really cool guy, really chill guy to hang out with, and that he's really smart, but he has basically built the setup.

So his house, he has a private chef.

He has every video game you could want to play.

He has a paintball field at his house.

He has everything, right?

So when I went there,

I was like looking around and I was like eating like Michelin star quality food,

like the best food in the world, hanging out, having good conversations.

Anything that I wanted was there.

I was like,

dude, I could stay here for a little while.

And so I think that's what I learned most from Dan Dilzerian is that he has created a life for himself that attracts people to him.

Instead of him having to go out and acquire people and talent, they all come to him.

That's cool.

Whether it's through his fame, his money, his status, it's all the setup.

And it all funnels back to him.

So if he wants to accomplish anything else in life, guess what?

It comes to him.

Yeah.

He doesn't have to go out and get it.

And that's what literally with finances, with women, with any experiences that he wants to do, with any business that he wants to do, it all comes to him, man.

All he's got to do is post a story or something on Instagram and it will all come to his house.

He doesn't have to even leave.

He's built that brand.

And it's cool to see his transition from that phase of like hooking up with 10 girls a day to like, now he's in a relationship, I believe.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure on that.

But

another funny story is I was I was walking around and I was like, I was like looking around.

I was like, dude, this guy, this guy has a lot of guns.

This guy, dude, this guy has like multiple guns and they're all loaded in every single room.

And then, you know what else I noticed?

I was looking around.

I was like, this guy has a lot of bongs.

That's surprising.

I didn't know he smoked.

And so I asked him, I was like, Dan, you know, you got everything in the world.

I I see you got the cars.

I see you got the women.

I see that you got the business.

I see that you got the, you know, the house and the setup.

Tell me this.

What do you think the value of your bong collection is?

And he's like, yeah, it's probably at least two mil.

What?

In bongs?

It's like, dude, this guy, like,

you realize something, like, you know, like, you look at yourself and like, I'm making good money, right?

Yeah.

Then you go to Dan Bilzerian's house and he has $2 million worth of bongs.

And it starts making you reconsider what money really is.

Relative, right?

Yeah.

As you meet richer and richer people, it changes.

It really does.

I used to think just having a million was a lot.

Right?

Like,

once you make a million, you realize that you're broke as f.

It doesn't afford a house these days.

No.

And especially, too, depending on which state that you live in and which tax bracket.

Well, obviously, you're in the highest tax bracket if you make a million.

Yeah.

Dude, at the end of the year, you're making $475,000 if you live in California.

Yeah.

Which is...

Not very much.

You got to get out of there, bro.

I just had to buy a G-Wagon a few days ago just so I didn't have to pay like 300K in time.

Same, same.

We bought a rolls, but not a G-Wagon.

I was looking at the G-Wagon, so I really like the G-Wagon.

I like G-Wagons.

I think next year I'll probably have to get like a colonan or something.

You should get a Cole.

The Cole is, we call it the landship.

It's like literally a boat, dude.

It's like basically driving a land ship, a land boat.

Lastly, any war stories in business?

Oh, man.

I have a lot of war stories, actually.

I'm trying to think of a good one that's

not going to get me in trouble here.

No active lawsuits, hopefully.

No, no.

I'll tell you.

I don't know.

I have some good war stories, but I kind of want to keep a lot of them secret as of now.

But I'll tell you one war story from fidget spinners.

So in 2017, obviously everybody knows about fidget spinners, right?

And so we, being e-commerce guys, saw the trends.

And this is why I tell everyone, it's great to hit trends, but watch out.

And to, you need to build a real business.

And here's why.

Right.

So in 2017, we saw fidget spinners popping off and we're like, yes, we're dialed.

We're ready.

So we ordered, I don't even remember how many, but we ordered probably like 25, 30,000 units from China.

The brand, we put like the branding on like the actual like part where your fingers go and everything.

Launched it on Amazon.

Immediately we're selling like a thousand units a day.

We're making the product for $1

and selling it for $17.

We were net profiting after like Amazon fees, et cetera.

We were net profiting around $10 per unit.

And when you're 21, 22 years old, that's a lot of money.

You know, so what did we do?

We're like, okay, this is going to last forever and we're going to go all in.

So we took all the profits that we had made from selling our first batch of fidget spinners and we went and bought like, I don't remember the exact number, but like hundreds of thousands of fidget spinners.

And we shipped them all into Amazon and we were smashing it like it.

And then Amazon decides to flag all fidget spinners for lead because there was kids like obviously young kids that were like eating the fidget spinners and like some of the fidget spinners probably did have lead in them.

Ours did not.

So Amazon doesn't care, right?

So they'll literally like, it doesn't even matter if you're doing $5 million a day, your product, they'll flag it.

They don't give a f ⁇ ing.

Like they will literally flag your product and say, you got to provide these documents or you got to basically appeal this product out and then you can start selling again.

And if you're not skilled enough to do that,

you got to burn the inventory.

And it takes a lot of time.

And so basically we had hundreds of thousands of units that were locked up in Amazon.

We needed to basically go send our products out to a third-party lab for testing, which we didn't even know anything about at the time because we were noobs.

And so it took us about two months to basically figure that whole situation out.

And by then, it was after Christmas and basically the whole fidget spinner wave.

went the the the volume like the trend like all the traffic went to almost zero and so then we were sitting on all the money that we had invested into this thing was all sitting in inventory in Amazon.

And we ended up having to burn all the inventory.

So we incinerated all of it, which was hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And the worst part was that we actually borrowed, like, this is the first time we've ever borrowed money.

We borrowed money from friends and family.

And we had to, and so now we were in debt up to our eyeballs, like $100,000.

And at the time,

I was living with my business partner, Brandon, and I remember this dude like literally was having night terrors because of how much money that we owed.

So the next, basically the next few weeks after that, we actually went to a Tony Robbins business seminar, Business Mastery.

And that's when we started our consulting business because we were like, we need to pay back all of our investors and we need to survive.

So that's kind of a war.

That's kind of a war with us.

That is.

War with family, man.

Yeah, you ever want to afford it.

Hey, we paid back every single dollar, like pretty fast as well.

Nice.

And then some.

That's cool, dude.

Anything you want to promote or close off with, man?

No, man.

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And I appreciate you having me on, brother.

It's been a pleasure.

Yeah,

man.

Thanks, man.

Appreciate it, man.

Yeah.

See you guys tomorrow.

Peace.

Peace.