Mikki Mase EXPOSES Casino Scams Pt 2 | DSH #312

Welcome back to the digital social hour part two with Mickey because it was not good.

Yeah, we had to bring this fool back just because I honestly had so many more questions and there is a part two because

before he left and you guys didn't really catch this whole part, but Mickey had to go and ask for fucking permission right now.

Like he literally looked at his phone and said, yo, guys, I actually got a, I got a dip and I asked him why.

He said, he said he's got to go to the wind.

and ask for permission to go play in a fucking poker tournament.

Tell us what the the fuck just happened the past what was it hour and a half and and uh what they said to you yeah so i wanted to play the win tournament tomorrow and the poker go tournament on sunday

and the win is obviously owned by the win and poker go is owned by aria and i'm barred from both um so I was calling to like see if it was gonna be an issue.

But PokerGo is still a third party, right?

Yeah, it's a third party.

And so is most of the win tournaments.

Like WPT, like all this.

So the question is, like, where do you draw the line on what is gaming at the win?

What is gaming the authority?

Like, does WPT even get to say anything?

Because, like, obviously, I'd be pissed if I was WPT or one of these gaming companies, and you're taking one of my biggest players out of the game because you have a vendetta against them.

Like, can you mark up the chain?

So, for me, I didn't go through like WPT, or I did technically go through Poker Go, but this is a problem, man.

Like, these are all employees, you feel me?

And so they're just possibly.

Yeah, that's all they, they're professional order followers.

Right.

And, you know, I'm not faulting them for that, but it's like they got no balls.

They don't know how to push anything.

They don't know how to force them.

It's not their job to do that.

They're not getting paid to do that.

They don't give a shit.

They're not getting paid to get the answer yes.

Whether the answer is yes or no, their pay is the same.

Right.

So it's really hard to like navigate this.

And a lot of these executives don't want to take my direct call.

And they have a lot of stoppage points, you know, like in their office, their assistants, they say, listen.

prevent calls from getting to me and it's really hard to break through that barrier so i showed up in the win i pulled up right now we've been going on the phone all week and i'm like can I play to tournament or not?

Like, what's the deal?

And they're like, there's no gaming.

I was like, yeah, but poker doesn't hurt you, right?

Like, if I win the whole tournament, you guys still make extra money.

It's just more buyings.

So like, where do you draw the lines?

And it's a third party.

So nobody gave me an answer.

I pulled up and I'm like, what's good?

And they basically just sent me around in a circle.

At the end of it, they said, bro, you're banned from all gaming on our premises.

That's where the buck stops.

And I do believe I can get this overturned, particularly for poker.

But I don't, being that it's Friday now and I've been working all week on it, I don't think I'm gonna get it done for tomorrow and Sunday.

So they basically sent you on a wild goose chase and then told you to fuck off.

Yeah, they told me to get lost, basically.

Wait, so you're basically banned from the World Series of poker then?

So, so it's so interesting, the World Series of poker.

So, I was banned from the World Series of poker because of World Series or because of the

World Series would pay to pay to have me.

Oh, WPT win, and PokerGo would, and all these places would pay to have me.

It's the casinos that they're in.

I'm curious, that there has to be some type of like, you know, committee or some shit to go to and and like, you know, talk to them or talk to the actual company.

But they also like, besides that, a lot of the casinos just hate me on like a vendetta on a personal level.

They also don't really care.

Like, in their mind, first of all, they do not exercise use of celebrities.

Like, casinos are very old-minded.

It's mostly, mostly old guys, you know, from they're like second generation from the birth of Vegas.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, their dads are here with Meyer and Bugsies.

Yep.

You know,

so they don't even know who is

tip outside the casino.

Yeah, they don't know what's good.

They don't even know what's going on.

So they don't really care.

Like, they're like, we don't.

You don't mean shit to us.

Yeah, that's what the best.

That's their attitude, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's fucked.

So I can't even play poker, you know, in a lot of these tournaments and stuff.

But the World Series thing.

So.

What do you do next?

I mean, like, at this point, it's like, at what point do you get like you have to, I'm sure you're as frustrated and, you know, tired of just constantly being put through the ringer.

Like, for me, if I get put on a wild goose chase past a second person, I start pulling people by the collar.

Like, yo, what the fuck's going on here?

You know, you've got much more patience than me just to be respectful enough and say that.

You know, I'm curious, where do you go from here when it comes to, I wouldn't say striking back because, you know, I want to see offensive, but really you probably playing the defensive.

What's the next move?

Well, what I've been doing in like

the like the interim is I've been playing like private games.

I play a lot of private games, mostly in LA, some in Vegas, some New York, some Miami, some Kansas.

When you say private games, you're talking about like, you know, people, you know, privately organize something at a house and they have, you know,

people coming in their net worth.

Yeah, sort of like that.

Sort of like that, yeah.

Like, for example, you know, like, if we played here in the studio on the table out there, like, you guys aren't going to stop me from playing.

You know what I'm saying?

Right.

Everybody's money is welcome.

Yeah, right, exactly.

So it's like that, but basically, yeah, private games.

And, yeah, you know, I said this two years ago, again, in that first ever interview I did.

I have a couple of plans that'll bring the casinos to the knees.

The thing is that they're not overnight, you know, these plans.

And I wouldn't say that I'm that far possibly from to activating or being prepared to, you know.

Okay.

But they're big, big plans.

They're hard plans.

They're very challenging.

Sure.

These are massive corporations against me.

Monsters.

Public companies.

Yeah, so it's quite an ordeal.

It's not just like, I couldn't, and even, you know, like, I couldn't just like go to the owner's door and be like, hey, man, let me in.

You know, let me play.

And he's going to be like, okay.

A lot of barriers, dude.

Yeah.

And

the the the bureaucracy part of it is crazy because people don't really understand you know once they once you have like a stigma attached to your name in vegas all the other casinos kind of follow suit you know if one casino reports you you're you're you're pretty much getting in that little book that that everybody has so i feel like that that that's probably got to be the hard part breaking out of that stigma i mean i don't have you ever been challenged at the tables before you ever had problems like this I don't gamble enough for them to even care about me.

Yeah, I was about to say

Sean's throwing down a $100 chip or something.

You know, like, fuck, I lost a hundred bucks.

I'm out.

What's the biggest poker hand you've you've played in and also seen poker?

Poker.

Poker specific?

Uh,

well, there's different, uh, I would say, like, median pot sizes, depending on the stakes of the game.

So if you're playing like a 1025, like the bigger median pot sizes you're gonna see is like 10K a pot, which is a pretty big pot.

Theoretically, there's some outliers that go above, but like as far as like the upper level, that's a lot.

Then if you play like 100, 200, then you're probably considering a higher median level like

30 to 50,000.

If you're playing like

200, 400, 800, or 500, 1,000, which is about the same, then you see like a lot of at the high end, like $300,000 to $500,000 pots.

And then beyond that, you're not too far over a million dollars a pot.

but it's not like there's usually there's usually not like one particular one it's like this is sort of the range of of the bigger pots.

And so I would say, if I had to give you a straight answer, maybe a million and a half bucks.

So you've had a million dollars of your own money in one hand?

Well, let's, it depends how many players.

So that's an accumulative, like a cumulative couple people.

Oh, so I think like heads up, it'd be, you know, maybe you're putting up 200 G's, he's putting up 200 G's, he's putting up 200 G's.

That's still crazy, though.

Yeah, it's still fucking bananas.

Anything over 10 bands is enough for me to be like, better than that.

I played a pot on TV that was, it did technically hold the record for biggest televised poker pot in poker history.

It was $1.6 million.

Yeah, it also did got, it did get beaten recently from Eric Person's million-dollar buy-in game.

They had like a $1.9 million pot that was played.

I think it was RoboL.

Antonius, I think.

But even my 1.6, which before that held the record, it was, I think, three ways.

So it was three of us, and there was four in the last moment someone folded.

So a lot of his money was burned in there.

It was 1.6, but there wasn't technically 1.6 because once he folded the biggest stack right was only eligible for 1.6 and i was like me and the other guy had less

right so maybe it was like uh eight hundred thousand dollars or something still bananas still nuts what about uh what's the most you've won in in a backerout session my biggest single win ever was eleven million five hundred twenty six thousand dollars on one split no no and in a cubit okay once i let it say like bro you're a nut one session

no i wish they'd let me bet that much i used to fight with them to get me to bet a million dollars What's your minimum?

I don't have a

minimum.

I'm saying, like, no, no, your minimum bet or your, I'm sorry, your max bet.

Like, what do they allow you to bet in Baccarat?

Well, they used to, but it used to be 300,000.

Uh, but I average bet, I average about 250,000 a hand.

My exact average is a house each bet.

Yeah, my actual Las Vegas average bet is $243,000 exactly.

Holy shit.

But what casinos can you fucking do that at right now?

What's left?

Sort of none.

The only casinos that are gamble downtown at all?

Like you hit five?

I can't.

I'm not allowed.

I'm not and I can't hit circa.

Why?

Yeah, I'm banned.

God damn.

MGM is circa, right?

I don't think no, circa is in different.

No, the circa is owned by the D.

Okay.

And I'm banned by all D.

So where can you gamble in Vegas?

Sort of nowhere.

Well, how do you gamble in Vegas?

I sort of don't.

Are you banned in LA too?

No, I'm not banned in LA.

There's just limited gaming.

Wait, back the fuck up.

Why the fuck do you even come to Vegas then?

What's the point?

I don't come anymore.

What do you mean?

Yeah, what do you mean?

What's the point?

I've been like, there's no point to fucking be here ever.

I'd be so mad all the time.

Do you eat in their restaurants?

Only some.

The wind will let me in, which is how I went up, pulled up on them today.

They'll let me inside.

They're happy to have me.

You know, they gave me a limo to go from one door to the other door because I didn't want to walk to my car.

Okay.

You know, so like they'll let me in or whatever, but uh, I could eat at the wind, but only certain casinos.

No MGMs, I can't even be in the car.

80% casinos, MGM.

Jesus.

No Caesars, no MGM, no, no fucking

what's left?

Absolutely nothing.

No, I can't.

I can only be at the same time.

That's what I'm saying.

That's the only thing that's not.

That's anything.

Jeez.

I'm low-key flabbergasted.

No, like, where do you go from there?

Like, low-key.

If I'm in your position, I'm either doing one of two things.

I'm hiring, like, some type of legal representation to try to like fight this fight the good fight type bullshit.

Or I'm just like 100% anti-Vegas and I'm just going to pray that I meet like an exec one day and fucking kick the shits or you know get somebody's email contact explaining them the situation and just get you know gog mode hit on me but or maybe just buy a casino myself oh sexual tell me more wink wink okay i like would your gambling strategies work on online casinos you think

it's hard to tell i have um

i have a lot of evidence on the

lack of regulation and there's no control and there's no oversight have you played on any of these sites only a couple of times because I was curious.

What the setup is, yeah, what their setup is.

You know, you played like the live poker.

You played like the bullshit one where it's like a computer-generated one.

Well, the Baccarat and the Blackjack.

You know, they have like live dealers.

That's what I'm saying.

Like the live dealers.

Yeah, yeah.

I've done that a couple of times,

like secretly, privately, because I'm not here.

I don't want to say it or say the names.

I don't want anyone to think it's publicity.

I don't know here to promote a cashier.

I don't care about any of them, you know.

Except his own.

Yeah.

But yeah, I played and it and

I don't know I saw immediate mathematical improbabilities

That would make sense because there's no regulation I'm just I won't name names either, but I do know that one of these sites has extremely

Let's say in favorable odds to the point where it's it's 100% a highway robbery and you don't even know it.

I told all I've I know the owners of almost every online casino, and I've told all of them the same thing.

They all want me to, you know, the way Steve will do it.

Yeah, they all want that for me.

Because it's great money, it's great advertising.

Yeah, my conversions would be the highest conversions they ever had from a single marketer.

Easy.

Yeah, easy.

Your following is detail-oriented to that specific demographic.

Literal demographic.

That's my point.

It would

A to B.

Yeah, so I told all of them the same thing.

I said, I'll do it, but only if you also let me live stream me coming in and checking the integrity of your games.

And they said, no.

And I'll tell you what, so far they haven't returned a contract.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I bet.

And again, half that is not being filmed in the States either.

You all know it's like all overseas.

A lot of these are being filmed in different countries that have different regulations.

And then again, if you don't know the certain bylaws and the discrepancies that are hidden within

how they operate their business, you're getting fucked regardless.

You're getting fucked.

I don't make money on social media.

We spoke shortly about it i don't make money on social media i don't make money from people losing money i don't make money from my fans being heard i don't make money on any of that so for me to go and market these casinos just because they offered me a fat bag and i know that it's harmful to my fans shows your integrity bro it's very uninteresting to me

you could have made millions more than just millions yeah i mean there was endless millions bro we just talked about this whole aid and ross situation guy's getting a hundred million and look what he's doing all day yeah you know and i i could have made a lot of deals i could have accepted a lot of offers and I didn't because I didn't appreciate their product or their service or lack of integrity or what damage it can do to my fans.

And

I'm not really interested in that.

But I do want to know, Sean, how to make actual money on social media because I never made a dollar on social media.

That's definitely your brand.

I mean, the hard part you already did, which is getting views, getting eyeballs.

There it becomes a brand.

Just email brands, get in touch with the right people.

get sponsors you've already done the hard part i mean bro i have like a about a billion views on the internet.

Yeah.

And I've still never made a dollar from anything.

I don't understand.

You need someone on your team that is a brand partnerships manager.

You need a good PR, like a good publicist, Loki.

Yeah, they'll bring deals for you.

Facts.

She'll literally just look you up and down and be like, all right, this is your demographic, or this is what you fit, or this is whatever your categories you fit in for the brand's sake, and then go out and directly attack them.

Like, basically, what my agency will help do, a lot of artists of celebrities, influencers, is that we'll match organic brand, like organic partnerships with brands because I'm not trying to hit somebody up and be like, yo, use this fucking product that you've never used and you'll probably never use.

I'm trying to hit you up and be like, yo, what are the top three things you spend the most money on?

Oh, you fucking go through gallons of toothpaste every month?

Bet.

I'm going to go hit up Crest.

I'm going to go hit up.

I've talked to people that claim to be that PR person.

I've claimed to people that be that,

what do you call it?

Brand partnerships?

Yeah, I've spoken to people like that.

Never once has anybody came through.

I've never made a dollar on this.

I have a billion views on the internet.

Connect you with some guys.

And again, it's all about finding the.

We were just talking about this with Brandon.

It's just about finding organic partnerships, bro.

You can't,

you have to surround yourself with people whose best interests are not just for their own outlook.

It's for you and for the betterment of the surrounding of the team.

You know what I mean?

And so when you bring on guys like that or you bring on people that they don't need the money, that's one thing that I've always noticed when it comes to great business.

When I do great business with people, I realize 10 out of 10 times, I don't need the money, they don't need the money, but we both realize that not only will this make us and a lot of other people money, but it's something that can be done only through

very few or select people.

So there's a niche there.

I'm like, okay, cool.

This is something that we can go in and exploit.

If you want to help me with that, when we're done here, I got you.

That's easy.

I want to touch up on the drug stuff because you're completely sober now.

But prior to to that, you had a huge drug addiction.

How did you get out of that?

And what advice would you give people struggling with that?

This is my least favorite topic.

Why?

Oh, my God.

Tell us why.

So, yeah.

We'll touch on it and then skip a stone.

Don't worry.

Yeah, yeah.

So I've been completely, you know, straight edge and all for seven and a half years.

I don't curse.

I don't drink sugar.

I don't eat sugar.

Fucking pirate.

No, sorry.

Bro, I have more curse words tattooed on me than you'll probably say in a week.

I know.

I have the F-word tattooed twice just on my finger.

I've never said fuck like three times in two sentences.

Like, I don't think you're even listening.

You're like, I'm telling you.

I'm phased out.

From head to toe, I have curse words tattooed on me.

My whole stomach, you know, is I think fuck was actually one of my first words.

But, yeah, you know, so I don't curse.

I don't go to strip clubs.

I don't make transactions for sex.

I don't eat, drink halfway.

Wait, wait, wait, wait back up.

You don't go to strip clubs.

Why?

It's just, it was just part.

I used to live a very disciplined life.

I felt that

I was like developing a belief about women from the time I was spending in a strip club and then projecting that belief on all women.

And I thought it made it very challenging for me to have wholesome relationships or healthy relationships with women.

Wow.

Interesting.

Wow.

I was never going to expect that kind of answer to come out of you.

I'm beyond impressed.

Beyond impressed.

I don't take Advil.

I don't,

I only drink water.

I don't do a lot of things.

And drinking and drugging is some of the things I don't do.

And yeah, I don't know.

So it's been like seven and a half years.

And

I was always very like.

It's not sad, Phil.

Yeah, none of that.

I don't even take vitamins.

And I know it's like, oh, vitamins are good.

I have my reasons.

I just don't.

I don't need an outside substance to make my body up, down, left, or right.

You know, it's going to heal itself stronger on its own than it will

with chemical substances.

I love that.

I fucking love that.

Yeah, so it was always so private about it.

Like, you know, I had a girlfriend.

She lived with me for three years.

We dated for a long time.

And for the sit up until the sixth month, like it took six months of her living with me to even figure out that I was sober because most people are self-consumed.

So, even if all three of us went out, let's say five nights in a row, and we went to a bar all nights or a club, whatever, all five nights, we're gonna get bottles, and you're gonna offer me a drink.

I'm gonna say, No, no, I'm good, I'm good, and you're gonna forget, you're gonna turn to the next person, offer them a shot, have a shot, and not even realize I said no, ask again, yeah, and 10, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say no 10 times, and you're never even gonna really realize.

I'm gonna do it every night.

And at the end of the week, you're never even gonna realize I turned down a shot 100% of of the time every single day.

So, nobody really asked me.

They just, if they ever thought about it, oh, he's just not drinking tonight, or you're driving, or you don't want to drink, or you know, whatever it is.

And I was always very anonymous about it, and I liked that.

I thought there was enough things about me that people could judge or challenge or make difficult in my life that I didn't need to add another one.

That I used to abuse substances, you know, I didn't think it was necessary.

And I think with that, you know, with that no jumper interview, again, I specifically, when I said Adam, pick one thing, I said specifically, do not mention my sobriety.

I want to keep that to myself.

I've kept it so close, and I only would share it if I think it's going to help somebody else.

And that's how I lived my life up until that interview.

And again, I wasn't PR trained.

That I felt like I lost control.

I said a lot of things that I rather have kept private and, you know, and I didn't.

And

it had a lot of consequences, some good, some bad, some indifferent.

But one of them was that now that it was public information that, you know, I...

Kind of a weight off your shoulders, I have to feel like.

No, I thought it was a weight on because now everybody else wants to ask ask me about it and don't act like it doesn't happen yeah but i feel like listen and again you you you just said you know a second ago if you feel like it's gonna help somebody well shit i mean how can you tell how many people like if this podcast gets a million views and somebody listens to your story and's like you know what dude that's the shit that's what i want like i'm gonna fucking turn that light switch that we talked about

i mean you never know you really don't know what what what scenarios are are gonna are gonna arise from just telling your story

yeah but i just feel like there's other ways i i tell my story.

I used to, I mean, I actively participate in a 12-step program, and I share my message quite regularly, and I give back, and I sponsor hundreds of, I have hundreds of sponsees and grand sponsees and great grand sponsees, and I'm very active.

I was a circuit speaker before the pandemic.

I do HNI,

I don't know, five times a month.

So now you're fucking PR trained.

What's the problem?

Yeah, I don't know.

What's the problem?

You know this.

You know, I give whatever help I can to those struggling with sobriety, but I think it's all like setting based.

And I don't know if like an open platform.

I do believe that it is a very private thing.

And I have a lot of friends that also go through that are going through and have gone through sobriety.

And I guess really for me, it's more of like a

to each his own.

You know, each person has their own chemical imbalance or balances and they know what's right for them.

And I feel like to be so severe or so against it, you know, like if you want to be sober, I support that.

That's great.

I don't think that that's something you should necessarily go around and preach to everybody.

that's

a time and place i think it's also corny bro i see people post like we do recover my one year chip and i'm like suck my dick

like this is corny that's that's that's that's for attention yeah like you and i both know the difference yeah you and i both know the difference i'm like bro like you are

you know alcoholics and addicts are attention selfish you know they're restless irritable discontented they're selfish self-seeking dishonest you know that's who they are embedded that's who they are inside of them and they work the 12 steps to prevent them from continuing to be that way.

And they use drugs and alcohol as a solution.

They go, I hate myself because I am so selfish and self-seeking, etc.

How can I feel better about me?

I want to numb these feelings.

And then they start consuming drugs and alcohol.

And they go, this is working until that becomes its own problem.

So by working the 12 steps, you become less selfish and self-seeking and dishonest and et cetera.

And there's much more to it.

It's much more expansive than that.

But how are they going to then recover?

And then literally go back to their faults to discuss their recoveredness, you know, being attention-seeking.

Like that was the problem to begin with.

Social media, that's the true addiction, brother.

Yeah, so anyway, long story short, my least favorite topic.

Okay, all right.

Respect, respect.

All right, so let's, we'll, we'll, we'll segment into our last little jump here.

We'll go into uh, we'll go into foods.

How about that?

I was gonna say girls, but you want to go into girls or food?

That's a coin flip.

How about that?

I don't care.

All right, we'll go for half and half.

Okay.

You hit the girls question.

All right, I'll hit the girls.

I've seen on some interviews, you said you were a sex addict.

You participated in.

I didn't use the word addict, but go ahead.

Okay.

Whatever you wanted.

you participate in orgies but then i've also seen a side of you where you said you're in a committed relationship yeah where are you at now what does that have to do with one or another

well

i'm with you bro that was a great moment i know plenty of guys that are married or in committed relationships that do fucking

freaky stuff crazy shit i wouldn't even i couldn't even dream about i really couldn't i've had to teach his own i've had 50 of my relationships where we were in a a real relationship, you know, like

not monogamous, but we were together, but we were

together experiencing, you know, really wild sex things, group and et cetera, you know, whatever it was.

And the other 50%.

Polygamous.

Yeah, right.

And then the other 50% were more monogamous and traditional.

And I've experienced both, and I think they both work depending on where my partner is at in her life and where I'm at in my life.

Sure.

I've been with my girl for two years.

We met like in a group sex setting, so in the beginning, that's the activities we're in.

And then she said, I'm no longer interested in that, I just want to be focused on you.

Are you okay with that?

But you live your life, and I said, Yeah, that's cool.

So, basically, it was like a one-sided, open relationship would be like the very layman's terms.

It's it's much more deeper than that, but but that's the layman's terms, right?

And then, like nine months ago, I was on like my last like little orgy tour, and I just was very uncomfortable with how I felt inside.

I wasn't happy, I was

just um, I just wasn't happy.

I didn't, it didn't make me feel the way I wanted it to make me feel.

And I was in such a high stimulated environment.

It was been like a two-week tour or so.

And I said, this must be the problem, right?

Like, this is what's driving this internal

discontentedness.

And I said, I'm done.

And I called my girl and I said, hey, like, I've been gone for two weeks.

I've been doing this.

And I'm not interested in this.

I don't like the way it makes me feel.

I want to give all my attention to you and work on our next chapter of our relationship just one-on-one.

And she goes, I'd love that.

And so it's been about nine months we've been doing that.

And, you know, what will.

What the fuck is a sex tour?

Well,

you know, I have friends, mostly that are females that live all over the world that

want to engage in

high-stimulated sexual environments.

I love the way he's so PR right now.

I hear the way he's tiptoeing around this.

Because I would have just been like, I got bitches all over the world that are trying to smash you, dick.

Yeah, I mean, I know a lot.

I don't say it like that, though.

I know a lot of women that want to engage in these environments.

The thing is, it's hard to find a group of people that are all like-minded because it's such a vulnerable environment, you know, for you and them, and most of you are strangers to all experience each other.

You're most vulnerable with your biggest insecurities, and you know, and there's so many personalities.

And when you're in a relationship, even if it's completely platonic, let's say you and I, right?

There's going to be things I have to learn about you that you like or don't like, and I like or don't like.

So, now imagine doing that for 10 people, but you're absolute most vulnerable, and there's no room for escape.

You know, so

there's women that want to engage in this, but it's hard to find the right environment.

So usually when I come into town, I'll say, hey, I'm going to create this environment.

It's like a safe space and this is our intention.

And they'll engage.

And they don't all live in LA.

They don't all live in Vegas.

They don't get to see me a lot.

So this last tour I did, we started in Maryland and then we moved to Atlantic City and then we went to LA and then it ended in Vegas.

And I think we had plans to go other cities, but it was during Vegas when I said, I don't like the way this makes me feel.

Yeah, I want to go home.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I don't even fucking remember what I was going to ask this man after that.

That just took a whole journey of its own.

Yeah, I mean, shit.

Since you can only have a very limited, you know, variety of food in Vegas, you know, due to the fucking casinos, where do you like to eat?

What's like the popping spots for you to hit?

Bro, shout out Jesse Rays.

You guys ate at Jesse Ray's?

No.

You don't know about Jesse Ray's.

The barbecue, bro.

Shout out Jesse Rays.

That's number one in Vegas.

Okay.

Whoa, number one?

Bro, I'm telling you right now, check this out.

I'm from the South, so be careful what you say right now.

I lived in the bayou, bro.

I lived in Louisiana.

I've lived in Mississippi.

I lived in Biloxi.

I've lived in New Orleans.

I also know.

What's this cat's name?

Jesse.

The owner's name is Mike.

It's named after his wife, Jesse Ray.

Write this shit down.

What are you doing?

I have taken all of my friends that are from the South.

that know real barbecue i'm sure just like you to jesse race and it will blow you out of the water is this the one that's in North Vegas?

They just moved.

It was it was in North Vegas and they had like an outdoor area and then you have to like walk through a little line and get it or no?

No, you know you know where Dipped Auto Works is?

Fuck.

Their old one, I do.

Their newest, I believe it's their newest spot.

It's literally across their Jesse Ray's old location is literally across the spot from Dipped Auto Works' new location.

But they just moved.

I forget the address, but definitely go check it out.

That would be number one.

And it's not a fine dining.

Like you're going to get

fine dining.

Yeah, you're gonna, you come in with a white t-shirt, you leave with a brown shirt, you know what I mean?

But it's fun, it's a cool spot, and it's the best food, Jesse Ray's.

We're going, man, we're going, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then also, you guys know, uh, what's that truck that does all the parties?

They did Shawnee Styles party, they do my parties,

gosh, the

milkshake wasted, okay, milkshake wasted again.

I don't eat sugar, so so I slightly have to defer this one.

They cater all of my events, they make those crazy, outlandish milkshakes where they have like donuts sticking out and cotton candy five feet high.

It's called Milkshake Wasted.

It's family-owned.

They do it all out of a truck.

They are the nicest family in the world.

Absolutely, I only got 10 out of 10 ratings from anybody who's tried it.

Somebody get me a fucking.

Somebody get me a phone.

Oh, man.

Those are who I feel like.

Sean, this is where they're like, fuck, we're doing hibachi.

This motherfucker's doing milkshakes, bro.

What's up?

Step this shit up.

Let's go.

I haven't had a good milkshake in Vegas.

You know what?

Actually,

the only real milkshakes va that I've been to is the one at Venetian.

What's that place called?

Black Tap?

Venetian.

He's probably

been.

All right.

Well, fuck.

I think I know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

I mean, look,

I want to focus on you for the closing statement here.

And, you know, out of all the topics that we covered, you know,

what advice would you give to guys kind of upping their social media presence or beginning their journey on know, become becoming an influencer.

Bro, that's a really hard one for me to answer because I also am learning.

I started social media out of pure boredom.

I was actually encouraged by some of the owners of casinos.

They were like, your story's cool.

People don't know this life exists.

Right.

You know, like, I'm still learning.

Like, I just told you guys, I've never made a dollar on this.

So, like, I can't give you business advice on social media.

No, just like personal experiences that you've learned along the way.

Personal experiences is that everybody you ask will have a different answer to how to handle something.

So you're going to have to figure a lot of it out on your own.

Something that I think, something that I think was like my biggest like advantage was I in, I'm really bad with computers, right?

Like I'm not like it.

I don't know how to edit or stuff like that.

But I found like a couple of apps that I became pretty like fluent in and I enjoy it's like a hobby of mine to edit videos for stories and the details that I put into my story posts.

I have a lot of friends with many like you sean multi-million followers.

Bro, when I show any of my friends, like you guys, you're all blown away by how detail-oriented I am.

And the consumer has no idea that they're absorbing my details in the stories.

You know, my story views are in the six figures.

Wow.

My replies are over 5,000.

My shares, like the you know, like you could share a story are always in the thousands.

Yeah, I get six-figure views.

I always screenshot it because I think it's pretty cool.

And so a lot of you guys with all the, you know, 10 million followers,

I don't know, I've never seen your analytics, but a lot of them, you guys don't even touch it.

A lot of them don't touch shit, dude.

I say this all the time.

It's hard because there was a period of time where people came and were buying fake followers or were buying blue check marks or we're buying views.

And I think right now these platforms have definitely done a decent job of cracking down and kind of getting that under control.

But at the same time, they've also inhibited because, you know, as we say,

find us a few, find us anybody that has a million followers with a million views.

It doesn't exist.

These platforms don't want you to have all those views.

I have like 30% engagement.

That's a high.

But that's still, yeah, that's still incredibly high.

I think mine's maybe 18, 19, 19.

That's really high.

That's really high.

But see,

I have also,

I've culminated mine because I found out over time, it's like, yeah, I could keep my page public and everybody, you know, and their mother can fucking share it and all that.

But I don't want that.

I want to have actual detailed relationships with all the people that follow me and I may be there.

So follow them back because if i can go through and tell you all 18 000 of my followers or how i met them or who i know them through

i mean maybe not all 18 000 but at least 15 of them i can tell you that right now i'm getting a couple thousand views per per post and and for somebody on a private page that's insane i think what i curated because of my concentration on my stories I don't make hard posts, but my stories have like serious juice in them.

And my stories go viral.

But you're not whoring yourself out.

You're not standing behind products you're not pimping shit out you're not trying to sell people

you're but that's my point is that people go on to your shit and they appreciate you because of how genuine and organic you are when you come on and you're like yo i'm playing dominoes with six million dollars check me out people look at that and they're like bro this is a fucking fan fuck a dream this is a fantasy of mine i want to just hang out with this guy for an hour

they look at that and they appreciate that because nobody else online is doing that nobody's living their life like you well i think i think what had happened that was to my favorite is because I never hard post, but I put such powerful juice in my stories that it formed like this cult following.

Because everybody knows that as soon as they see that I have a story up, they're like, watch that because that's where the that's where the entertainment from Dirty Goth Boy brand is.

So I think it formed this cult following.

They're always like on alert for the video because I never hard post, so they're not worried about looking at my page.

They just want to see the story.

They're like, we know there's action there and they look.

So I think it formed like this cult following.

They're like pretty die-hard fans.

Built a personalized brand.

Tell them where to find you, man.

At Dirty Goth Boy, and boy is B-O-I on everything.

Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, whatever.

Sean Mike Kelly.

And I'm Ari Gold, E-T-H.

Oh, last thing I want to say.

Hit him.

Because every video this happens, I have a mild case of Tourette's.

I've had Tourette's my whole life.

I love them.

So I'm always licking my lips and touching my face and moving stuff like fidgeting.

I've been fidgeting the whole time.

Bro,

people try to tear me apart in these videos.

I don't care.

I'm like, bro, just come on.

Why do you care?

That just doesn't make me

feel good.

I'm just saying.

But again, why do you let it affect you?

I want to touch on this because, look, this entire time I've been fidgeting, moving, I'm the most ADD human being.

Like, I can't stop.

There's just something in me that just moves all the time.

You know what I tell people?

People accuse me of being like a reptilian.

Bro, I'm literally a crazy person.

Yeah,

people always accuse me of being on drugs.

I just have Tourette's, bro.

It's not that serious.

Fuck that.

You know what you tell them?

I just have more energy.

You stop being jealous.

Bee.

Oh, you can't say the bitch part, but you can say beach.

I'm just saying, accuse me of being on drugs.

I just have Tourette's, you know, it's not that serious.

I mean, I wear sunglasses everywhere, and everybody thinks I'm high all the time.

But I mean, you are high all the time.

Not all of them, but I'm high right now, you know.

All right, guys.

We're ending it there.

Peace.

Peace.