Picking Up Men, Struggles of Dating & Doing Over 2,000 Scenes | Melissa Hutchison DSH #324

What started you getting into that lifting stuff?

That's what you're known for.

Oh my god, it's crazy.

Hey, can you do these?

And it was a whole bunch of like jack chicks lifting dudes overhead.

And I'm like,

I don't know, but I'll try to do some stuff.

Well, this bench looks soft enough.

And I just drop him.

He just falls out like he's been, you know, taken out.

And I call the office.

I'm like, I'm pretty sure this guy hates me.

They're like, no, we just talked to him.

He's so happy.

It's the best thing he's ever done.

I I was like, oh, thank God.

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All right, guys, you got Phoenix Marie in the building.

Hi.

How's it going?

I'm excited.

You just went on Ryan's show, right?

I did.

I'm Ryan Pal.

He's like my bestie.

I brought him Jada Stevens.

That's really what it is.

He's like, I need a wing woman.

Can you bring me Jada?

She never does these.

And I was like,

yeah, I'll bring Jada on.

And he's like, that's my type.

And I'm like, great.

So am I, chop liver?

Damn.

But at least I got Bob Mannery on mine.

I was like, it's way better than you, Ryan.

So you were third wheeling for him for a bit.

Yeah.

It's okay.

I don't mind.

So I was like, you like her.

Talk to her.

Ooh, that's a good friend.

Yeah, not just that.

But then next thing you know, he's trying to pull out his d right in front of her.

Ryan?

Yes.

What?

Yeah, like, she's like, I want to see it.

And he, so she does the thing where she like

like tap checks like guys

all the time and i'm like what she goes yeah i want to hug a guy i always check him and i'm like

i never thought about doing a check on somebody before i didn't know that was a thing i didn't either okay thank you high five because uh well some guys are growers though you know what i mean so you can't really judge a book by its cover there I agree.

Like, what if he's not, like, in full form?

Maybe if he's shy, like, it's like super turtle and it's just hiding on top of the balls.

Yeah.

And then it just comes out like eight inches, like, boom, perfect.

Yeah.

Because he could have came out of a cold shower or something.

Right.

You know what I mean?

It's raining.

Yeah, there's a lot of factors there.

You just left,

right?

I did.

What went into that decision?

I think I'm at the point where when you're with a company and you've been their head girl for 17 and a half years, you have to kind of step away.

And I'm okay with that.

Like,

one is I immediately got hit up by Naughty America, Vixen, like, we want you on our sets.

Like, how soon can we get you?

Jules Jordan's like, wait, are you still doing hardcore?

And I was like, I've been lifting

grown men and chicks, like, and flipping them and sucking their.

I'm pretty sure I can, yeah, I can do hardcore stuff.

What started you getting into that lifting stuff?

That's what you're known for, right?

Oh my God, it's crazy.

So I showed up to set.

The first one was Piper Perry.

70 pounds.

Okay, like that's I can easily curl 70 pounds.

And the director at the time, the time Tony T who I love to death he's like family still is even though he's not in the industry goes hey can you do these and it was a whole bunch of like jacked chicks lifting dudes overhead and I'm like I don't know but I'll try to do some stuff he goes if we can try and hit all these key points he goes I'm gonna let you do what you do And then sure enough, I flip Piper, no problem.

And then all of a sudden it was like, I meet this Spanish kid, Jordy.

And I'm like, okay.

Jordy speaks no English at the time.

Imagine speaking no English, and then I'm trying to communicate that I'm going to literally curl you and slam you up against the fireplace and suck your.

And then, like, we decided pile driver would be like fun, integrating, but not degrading because I'm still sucking.

And I'm all Jordy, pile driver.

And so I get a pile driver, and he went to go on top, like he would.

And he's like, I'm all, no, Jordy.

I'm all you, pile driver.

And he didn't get it.

And then all of a sudden, I just finally looked at Tony.

He's like, just do it and I went bam and I dropped him in a pile driver

the best part of that whole entire thing is I've got like people saying I look like the Undertaker tombstoning him on like because I can't take him from in the air and be dominant I have to like drop him down on something and I was like well this bench looks soft enough and I just drop him and he just falls out like he's been you know taken out.

Wow.

He didn't speak any English?

Any.

And so at the end I call the office.

I'm like, I'm pretty sure this guy hates me.

I just totally like demasculated him.

They're like, no, we just talked to him.

He's so happy.

It's the best thing he's ever done.

I was like, oh, thank God.

That's wow.

So you had sex with someone that you never talked to.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Imagine like chemistry there though, too.

And it was super fun.

Like I let him do the Superman on me and now everyone tries to copy that.

And I'm just like,

I'm in having fun when I have sex.

And if the chemistry is good and you can just connect, like, and you find something attractive about somebody, I think it's like really deep and fun and exploratory.

Oh, God.

I got

because I was single.

I wanted to try it.

And I said, what's the worst thing that's going to happen?

I'll do a scene.

I don't like it.

Unfortunately, I liked it.

And then next thing you know, I was working every day for like five years in a row.

And I was just like, okay, I need a break.

Like, can we get like days off?

And then, of course, being a queen, it's like, oh, also, and I'm all, you you realize I'm starving.

They're like, over a week, I'm starving.

They're like, yeah, we know.

And I'm like, oh, you can't eat before.

So I'm very particular.

Like, there used to be a director, Jason, who would do something called Deep Abyss.

And it was, here's this 12-inch,

and he wants it completely disappearing inside your

and that, or pretty sloppy, where like

his ideas would be randomly thought of.

Like that morning, he would must have been in the bathroom brushing his teeth and he goes, How do you feel about toothpaste?

And I'm all, I mean, I like toothpaste.

Why?

He goes, So, we're gonna squeeze an entire aqua fresh into your.

You're gonna push it out, which is clean, no streaking, all three stripes out, and then they're gonna brush their teeth and pry open and then dip it in and keep going back and forth.

And I'm like, Did you think about this this morning while you were brushing your teeth?

He goes, I did.

And I'm like, You're

wow, that sounds intense.

And you're willing to do all these crazy things?

As long as, like, for one, try everything once you, or twice, because you never know if somebody did it right the first time.

Okay.

And when you have a relationship with a director, I feel

like it's kind of fun to just show off.

And I was like, I can do it.

And he's all, it doesn't burn.

Cause I was like, let me see.

Because the menthanol in it, I thought it would burn.

I was fine.

Speaking of burn.

You got burned.

I've been on fire.

How about that?

Wait, what do you mean burned?

You were on fire.

What happened there?

So I went and did an upper floor.

And first,

upper floorskink.com.

And they thought it was really cute to do like candle wax from afar and like let it drop.

Unfortunately, it didn't cool in time.

So like my skin was already really warm.

And everyone kind of got a segment in this upper floor experience, which is like basically a group.

They allow like tested individuals to be involved in ways.

And one of the main directors who was not the director for my scene looks and goes lexi bell doesn't want to be set on fire will you and i was like

i mean i'm phoenix and i was like all this hair this is weave don't burn my hair and he's like how about we put your hair up in a bun and if you feel any discomfort let me know so i start like getting

fires on me thank god i didn't have a bush back then

and i one of them was like a squatted like

and the fire wrapped underneath my

literally was like this and I'm all hot

They kept going and they like put it out and then they just kept like just putting fire everywhere on me while I

damn you didn't feel it.

Oh, you feel it 100%

the good news is it just didn't burn me skin diamond tells me later on oh, you know the phoenix tattoo I have on me?

I'm like, yeah, she goes that's because somebody did it wrong and it burnt her skin.

So she took the scarring and made it in the scales of a phoenix.

Wow.

That's

like,

why didn't I know this before I attempted this?

This is some.

That is crazy.

I saw you on DJ Vlad.

It was eight years ago.

Yes, with Lex.

Long time ago, but even back then, you said you've done 1,300 scenes.

Yes, I'm at 3,412.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

You really keep track up.

I do.

I don't have to give a f ⁇ up to do my job.

And I always tell everyone, I'm like, one, if you have to give a up to do your job, don't do it.

Two, I remember every single scene and every girl I've ever

damn.

That's insane memory.

Yeah, and I've only been with 45 guys in total in my life.

Alcohol.

Some people forget who they sleep with.

Oh, no, because that's what.

So Tori Lane used to forget people.

And like, she was kind of like my idol.

And she's, oh, here's the deal.

If I'll remember your name.

If I don't f ⁇ you, I don't know who the f ⁇ you are.

And I was like, okay, I like that.

That's a good move.

And she's like, but at the same time,

I want to give every girl respect if I didn't you I won't remember your name

but once you're I like lick your if you do something with another guy whatever I know who you are 45 is actually pretty low for that amount of sessions

yeah well it's always the same guy so one of the good news is when you first get in a f you you don't have a choice who you right

and then I got really popular Thank you, everybody,

pretty early on.

So then they were like, who do you do the best scenes with?

Who do you want to work with?

And so, I have a yes list of like 15 guys, and that's it.

Okay, cuz, like,

one, I'm all if I don't know if they're stay hard, that's a problem.

Oh, that's happened to you, yeah, because they get scared, ah, like bang bus back in the day, right?

That's like huge, yeah, and so we just pick up dudes off this road, be like, hey, listen, yeah, oh, I thought they were hired.

I know, well, they are in their hour, so here's the deal: it'll be a random guy, and I'll be like, go get tested tomorrow, and you might be one of the guys we pick.

And then, like, the college dorm invasions that we used to do on Bang Rose, same thing.

It's like, you may be the guy that gets

whoever got hard got.

I was like, so, such a Jaden James one time.

We were picking up people, and I took, like, for some reason, the bang bus, they had a chicken foot on a stick, and so I like started like rubbing his balls with the chicken foot, like, but he got hard.

And I'm all, I'm him, he's the one we're

like, okay, but no girl wants to like make out in their scenes and like have like like connection.

I'm all if this guy's first time ever

you are intimidating out of him because he's like, I know what you do to guys.

I'm so scared.

I'm like, make out with them.

Make them feel comfortable.

With him a little bit.

But if he stays hard, he's their guy.

Have you ever taken a virginity?

I've been offered a lot of virginities.

I refuse.

Really?

I mean, like, why would you want to take somebody's virginity?

Like, I don't know.

It's like awkward to me.

So you still believe it's like a special moment.

Yeah, I do.

Like, and for them, it'd be a special moment.

They're like, oh my God, I've been off to you my whole life and blah, blah, blah.

And they'll be like, how about escorting?

Like, do you escort?

Can I get you there?

Like, I want you to be the first.

I'm like, no, guys, you're not going to do it.

So you don't hook up with fans?

No.

Interesting.

They want to.

A lot of girls do, though, right?

Oh, yeah.

And they even do content with them.

And I'm like, there's that line again of, are we stars?

Are we escort?

Are we other?

It's like, I don't want that line to be blurred for me.

So you stay in your lane did you get

hype at all or did you stay with just i stayed with mainly shooting um obviously i'm

yes it does well thank god again for everybody but

i like production like there's something about coming to set getting your makeup ready they're gonna have a creative idea that maybe i wouldn't have thought of it's not on my budget i just get show up do crazy get paid and i loved every minute of it nice and i try to make sure my counterpart always loves it too yeah and when you were first starting out, you said you didn't have much to say, right?

So they would just give you a script and you got a follow-up.

Yep.

And they'd be like, here's the guy that we hired.

And I'd be like, he's not really attractive or there's something about him that's off.

And I'm like,

and then you used to be able to call after the scene and be like, hey, can you put that guy on my no list?

And I finally was like, here's my yes list.

Here's the 15 guys.

If they're not on there, don't have me do this.

I'd rather not have the money.

Wow.

And I didn't realize it would work.

And they liked it.

And they're like, okay, cool.

And they're like, how many times can can you Johnny Castle?

And I was like, as many as I want.

Damon Dice.

Like, I have my Vegas locals I love, your Manuel Ferrara's, everybody.

Like,

all the best of the best that know that I'm crazy, but I suck a good so they're happy.

Nice.

You do Johnny Sins yet?

Oh, yeah.

I've known Johnny for

almost 18 years now.

Wow.

Yeah.

I'm like, he, me and him got in kind of at the same time.

And so we used to shoot a lot together.

And then we like took a break and I did Johnny Sin's thousandth scene for

and then we took a break again.

And then we shot at his house here in Vegas.

And I had like some blonde and braid thing going because I was going to Nicaragua.

And I like, if you're going to be in the water and scuba diving, you need braids.

Interesting.

And I was like, so I'm just him in his pool the whole time.

That's great.

You really love.

I do.

They're the best.

Are they not?

I like them.

I'm like, for people who are like, oh my God, I hate like you're lying.

Yeah.

And you can always tell who likes likes by eye contact really

what do you mean so if a fan comes up to me and i've never met them

i always looked at how they look at me there's the ones that scan your body it means it's like it's more than just my face or i'll ask them like what's your favorite body part on a girl and if they say smile or eyes i'm like oh you like a lot okay and they're like how the hell did you know that i was like I've been doing this a long time.

Interesting.

You said on your IG you love voyeurism.

I do.

So the act of watching others have sex.

Yes.

What got you into that?

So I would say

I did a scene for Vince Voyeer back in the day, and I asked him, like, what, why do you sh

when you're not in the scenes, your talent?

And he goes, there's something about watching someone else have sex.

And again, I'm brand new.

I'm still in the first year, still learning who I am.

He's like, watch.

And I was like, watching just like a scene going on.

I'm like, that is kind of hot.

I didn't watch before I got in.

Really?

I like got in a going.

My ex liked it.

I was like, he kind of like play it.

And I'm like, I don't want to watch that.

I'm like, you can have it on, but like, I'm going to f you.

And if you want to stay hard because you're watching someone else, I don't care.

And then it was kind of like a f ⁇ ing I'm going in a f ⁇ ing and I did it.

And I had Randy Spears, who's no longer in the industry, tell me, he goes, you're really hot.

Like, if you ever want to do

hit hit up this agency and i like followed him on myspace yes i'm old as

shut up everyone uh i and so i followed him and they kept hitting me up hitting me up and then by i met them all in january and october i got in nice and has your ex seen it oh yeah and then i put him in one oh you put him in one yeah so my sexy life like reality kings was amazing they made this site called muffia they gave me my own site they're like my sexy life is yours have fun with it and it was i picked what what i did who i did when

and one of the things like i my ex

then another one was i

me tommy gunn and ricky white in a tree whoa in a park in a tree people are walking underneath us and we're inside of a tree and i don't know why i thought hey guys can you climb this tree with me And then sure enough, the branches, like, I was looking at the branches.

I was like, I think it can hold our body weight.

Like, let's fing the tree.

So you were on top of it?

Yeah.

That is insane.

In a public park?

Yeah.

Public park?

Wow.

of the public sex i did see that actually i've never done it i love it there's something about being outside and the risk factor you're like yeah man have you been caught not yet actually

one time i was giving a behind a dumpster for real uh bank bros in miami and they were like hey listen you're phoenix marie We're not going to stop you.

And it was cops.

And I was like, thank you.

And they're like,

but if you could go further in the dumpster, it'd it'd be great.

And I was like, or you guys can just watch out for me.

And they're like,

do we get a photo?

I'm like, you can have whatever you want.

And they're like, really?

I'll watch it.

Take your phone out.

Record it.

And I'm looking at the director.

Director's like, are you really talking to the cops this way?

I'm like, I am because it's Miami.

That is funny.

So they recognized you.

Oh, not just that.

Like, I'll be topless, playing in the water.

And they're like, this isn't the topless part.

And then they see me and they're like, Phoenix.

And I was like, I know.

I'm like, I just have this thing.

I like to be naked.

I had Mr.

Pete literally grab me one time, my arms back behind, and he's like letting random fans on the beach grab my tits.

Wow.

And I was like, Pete, I did not okay this.

He's like, listen, you're a fucking dirty b ⁇ .

You're going to let, look at her.

Look at her.

And I'm like, I didn't think I was going to do that.

Are you a fan of nude beaches?

I am.

My dad took me to one on accident once when I was a kid.

It was interesting.

Well, it's at least he's like, hey, listen, my son needs to see some.

I think I was like 14.

So apparently if you go in the water, which he didn't know this, um, that's like a sign you want to something.

And it's like a gay beach.

So someone followed us.

Yeah, someone followed us home.

It was pretty weird.

You're like, where's the guns?

Yeah.

Where's the knives?

Yeah, it was in Jersey, actually.

I didn't know there was.

I didn't know Jersey had new beaches.

Yeah, Jersey has new beaches.

I was like, none of the water in Jersey seems like you should be in it.

Hell no.

That's some toxic manure.

I know.

So I was like, for you guys to go in thinking like you're 14, I'm going to go play in.

Oh, he went in.

There was only one girl and like, yeah, there's like 50 dudes.

It's always a sausage fest.

Yeah.

Why is that?

I think girls are scared at new beaches, right?

I don't think so.

I mean, like, I don't mind being naked at all points.

You don't mind.

But no, it's funny because like even before,

I didn't have a problem ever being naked.

Like I'd be like walking around the house naked.

Why not?

In front of your dad?

No, my dad.

Well, nothing like that.

Like older in my own apartment.

Like my space, like I wearing clothes is like a no yeah because you had nine siblings going up yeah nine other siblings i'm one of 10 so i'm number seven of the ten did you feel neglected because there's so many siblings no it's crazy so my dad has ten my mom

at six met my dad and then married him took on raising six kids that weren't her own and made four more and i'm the first of that four got it and so my youngest brother's 25 so i have a rule i will not anyone that is younger than my youngest brother oh interesting rule

And so they'll be like, oh, this new 18-year-old kid, I'm all, you're 18.

Nope.

I was like, also, I don't think you should do unless you're 21.

21.

Is that when you started?

I got in at 25.

Okay.

Yeah, I have this rule: like, I don't think you really know who you are, one, sexually.

A lot of girls are getting into up escort rates.

They've been doing this stuff since for whatever or dancers, et cetera.

But do you really know who you are sexually?

And we take advantage of that, right?

as an industry unfortunately we do this and

girl gets shot out in her first three months all she has is escorting or to become a dancer and like you'll see some of the big names like have gone into escorting or they're just strippers now and that's all they have yeah and it's sad because it's like well for some reason you just didn't click with the fans right and i'm just like i think i'm clicked because i'm a nerd i love marvel i rebuild classic cars i like guns i like to do basically everything a boy can do, I can do better.

You're a tomboy.

Oh, yeah.

I was going to ask your hobbies, but it sounds like those are the main ones right there.

And now I'm skiing and snowboarding.

And basically, I'm like, what's next?

Yeah, what is next?

Because do you have a retirement plan when this is done?

My retirement plan will be in Montana, sitting there looking at the river right outside my door, the train goes by nine times a day, and just doing absolutely nothing.

Sounds peaceful.

Right?

And then whoever I want at that point.

I'll probably still male talent because I want them to be tested and I don't like condoms.

Okay.

I'm allergic to latex.

What?

Even skin condoms I'm allergic to.

Damn.

So you have to go wrong.

I have to.

And so it's like, hey, listen, when we shot a test,

like, you know, some people that I like a lot.

I'm like, listen, I know I'm clean and I just got tested and I just fed you yesterday.

So you're clean.

It's fine.

We can f ⁇ again, you know?

Yeah.

So you like dating talent?

Not dating.

Just f ⁇ ing.

Oh, just you don't like dating?

I already did that.

I dated two people, Christian XXX

and Ramon Omar.

And

men in the industry are way more jealous of other men in the industry.

It's a diva complex.

They'll have added like a diva-ness to them.

I think they want to just have their girl exclusive mainly.

Which is stupid because I'm like, you met me sucking a f ⁇ ing, or we were in a scene together while I was sucking somebody else's.

And then you were the other

and we kind of like got on a good vibe and now you're mad that I'm sucking that guy's again.

Why?

Hmm.

I don't know.

I don't think I could do it just being honest.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, you want your girl for you.

For me, yeah.

I'm a family guy.

I want kids.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm all, there's nothing wrong with being open even in a family relationship.

That's a debate, I guess.

What about it would be a turn off?

Like if my girl and I had kids and she was hooking up with other guys?

Yeah.

Or you're hooking up with other girls.

What if she's like, hey, I'm pregnant right now.

I can't satisfy you sexually.

I think you should go somebody because I know I can't satisfy that right now.

Because some pregnancies are really difficult on women, right?

So I've seen a lot of girls say that to guys like, hey, listen, Hall Pass Central, like...

I can't be there for what you want.

So go do what you want.

So I could go eight months without sex because I've done it.

So I think I'd be fine.

But I understand your question because most guys need a f every week.

Yeah.

So that's a valid question for sure.

And you're young.

You know what I mean?

I'd be fine.

I practice semen retention.

A lot of edging?

No, I just don't even do it.

Oh my God, I couldn't do that.

Eight months.

What's the longest you've gone?

28 days.

Okay, so a month?

Yeah, not even a full month.

I was like, make sure you put 28 days.

A month sounds horrible.

Speaking of 28 days, it's a leap year, right?

Yeah, it is.

I know.

I was looking at all these fun things that we have hanging around.

I'm all

apparently they're a really fun lube

I want to see how you open it it's so you can just snap it

just run all standard me

I make a mess like always so what's special about this lube

well one thing is it is coconut based so there's a lot of people who love coconut but it is also CBD

so the one good thing about CBD is it actually helps with mucosal tissue so a lot of women women actually have problems whenever they are getting older, right?

And then, as we age, we have issues, and

the CBD gets the mucosa

really.

Oh, it feels good on your hands, actually.

I know you're looking like, here, I'll take it from my pants,

but uh, I also don't want to touch the mic with it, but I like that it absorbed right away into my pants, too, kind of cool.

But, um, the jasmine is supposed to open up your sensory, plus, I'm all

I can smell it from here.

Yeah.

I like CBD, actually.

What about CBD do you like?

I used to have bad anxiety, like terrible.

So I don't use it as much, but when I had anxiety, it really helped.

Yeah, and like for women, imagine being older and you actually have pain.

So there's women that can't take

inside their holes.

I don't know if you know this, like it's a weird thing.

Some people legitimately just can't dilate to take.

and usually no matter how much foreplay I had one girl she only did girl girl when she first got in the industry because and she bought the kit to try and stretch her but she couldn't get it.

Oh, she's too tight.

Yeah.

Wow.

I was like girls ain't for you.

Let's go.

Damn.

I didn't know that was a thing.

Yeah, but like something like this is actually really good because one is look it's not even wiping it off.

Feel my hand.

It's soft.

Wow, it's like lotion.

Yeah.

I'm all you could have this all over your body actually.

Smell nice.

And I think Jasmine's like one of those pretty scents that really, I don't know, it's a turn-on.

Are you a candle girl at the bedroom?

I am.

It's romantic, okay?

I do do romantic s ⁇ .

Not often, but I do.

So you're into romance, but you're not into dating.

That's fascinating to me.

I'm all, you know, every time I date somebody,

they just get jealous.

What about non-co-workers, just like normal dudes?

I've dated somebody not in the industry that was a welder.

I've dated guys in the industry that

were in other industries.

I've dated football players.

I've dated hockey players.

I've dated all kinds of different sporting guys, obviously.

And it's all the same thing.

Like you said, they want soul exclusivity.

Yeah.

And it's like, well, then show me why.

What about you is so special that I need to do that, you know?

And most of them get intimidated because I don't want their money.

And money's a great way for a man to make a power play on a a girl that's true you're in a different dynamic i was talking to danica patrick about this because she has money too it's tough for a woman with money actually to date yeah and she's an amazing racer by the way yeah but no there's actual studies on this that women with money struggle dating we just we don't need you we need you to provide an interest

if you can intrigue our minds make us laugh cook like for me i'm like

I travel so much so all my stuff in my life is like in different suitcases and in different rooms or different storage units or wherever I am.

And I just need like a partner that's like, I have to strive at like helping organize of like, I'm going to suck.

You're going to be my boyfriend.

Right.

And then again, it's back to no more.

And I'm like, you've watched me for the last 16 years.

You have me sucking your all the time,

you, and yet you don't want me to do

it.

It doesn't work.

Well, since you're romantic and the scenes are pretty romantic, I could see why they get jealous oh and i picked why and that's the part like i should have to tell them i don't have a choice i think would probably help them right because if you tell them you have a choice then they're like oh so you actually enjoy it and i'm like no i love it but i'll be like yeah of course i'm going to go work with like scott nails today and it's going to be a great day and like he's my friend and i know his kids and i know like family stuff about them it's and then after the scene we're all going to go eat and like maybe have a drink, maybe not, but like they like to smoke all,

you know.

You're losing me on this argument.

I think I'm siding with the guy.

You're siding with the guy everybody.

You're spending a whole day with your partner, man.

Well, my thing is, like, I make sure my partner meets the guys too.

Or does that make it weirder?

I think that makes it weirder, honestly, just because I'm putting myself in that position, and it's kind of like an ego shot.

I guess you got to put your ego to the side, but still, it's weird, you know?

Well, I mean, no one's going to have a d

like Lexington Steel, right?

Like, a random guy is not gonna have a Lexington steel,

and it's like, I need that for

because it, first of all, it makes me look small, and I like to look small sometimes because everyone thinks I'm a giant Amazon, and I'm like, I'm little, not little, but still, you know, it's like one of those things.

I'm like, I want to be treated like I'm little, okay, and so, like, bigger make me look little.

Small guys can't like, I actually was really mean recently to a guy I flipped, it just came out and

he had a small for

and small like four

like four and a half five or right at and

one of you let me flip him so I already have to do the degrading thing because it's kind of like a hot and mean thing but the other part is me going

you have such a small we should have made the scene

that's the only way you're gonna be able to superman on me like Jordy did damn like that's just one of the lines from the scene and that wasn't part of the script No.

Oh, he must have felt like.

Oh, I was just going in on him.

He's like, yeah, you were kind of mean.

Because I saw him at X-Biz, and I was like, oh, I was.

I'm like, I was just being honest.

And then I just like left it alone because I'm not going to take it back.

And that's what I said.

And I was like, it should have been your too small to like reach my

damn.

A lot of guys watching this are going to be upset.

I mean, just

okay.

Yeah, because a lot of guys have fours, fives.

You know, is there a minimum you like?

I'm a size queen.

So you like seven plus?

I'm a seven, like eight.

We're great.

If you have more, I'm going to be happy.

I can just take it, right?

Like, so when somebody's like, oh, I can't do like dread, for instance, I just look and go, and I haven't worked with dread.

He has 12, right?

Yeah, and, but I've took Mandingo, who has 12.

Damn.

And, like, took them all the way down my throat.

Holy crap.

I'm the first person to ever deep throat Mandingo all the way down.

And you didn't gag?

No.

That's impressive.

I'm like, like, I don't have a gag reflex.

Okay.

I lost that a long time ago.

I got trained by my ex, the one in Ramon.

We were living together and he's like, mommy, in order to be a big, famous star, you have to be able to deep throat.

And I'm like, what is that?

And he goes, the deep spit.

And so he would make me throw up all over our bed.

And I'm like,

he's like, you didn't get it.

Open your throat.

And like, literally held my neck.

And then he like slid it in there.

And he goes, see?

And then he goes, now hold your breath.

So, we did like a timer thing, me and my wolf Rara at one point because he has such a wide, girthy one, like you can't get air in.

So, I've learned that I can breathe around,

it's very easy.

Like, once it's in, you can literally open up more so you can breathe still while they're like throwing you.

Wow, and like, everyone's just like, How the f.

I have a really big, long neck, and I have a big mouth.

That is crazy.

Does all 12 fit?

No, okay, so there is a yeah, that's a

was a myth, but it's not.

Oh, no.

Like, there's definitely, like, bottoming out.

And then it's like, I have a video of Lexing me, and I'm just inching off the couch more and more and more.

And everyone's like, why are you running?

I'm like, I'm not running.

He's hitting me and it's sliding and I'm covered in lube.

What do you expect?

Oh, my God.

He tore me my first time ever him.

I told Lex ahead of time.

I'm like, Lex, I have a very tight.

Yeah.

You have a very big apparently.

And I didn't want to see it ahead of time.

He goes, you want to see my now?

And I'm like, no, he goes, just watch your teeth.

My has scarring on it from girls like chipping their teeth on his flesh.

Damn, that's gross.

Yeah, I was like, oh, I was like, you know, no, my mouth's really big.

You'll be fine there.

I'm all, but my won't be fine.

Sure enough.

Got part of the way in.

I was like, and he goes, holy, that feels good.

And I'm like, oh, it does not.

I'm like holding on the door frame

of Jules Jordan's house.

And then Lex went all the way in in and then did two strokes blood

I didn't know you could tear from sex I thought because my cousin tore during childbirth I thought there was only oh no you can tear like so the mucosa actually tore so it literally like just stretched and tore the mucosal tissue inside of me that's scary yeah have you ever broken a I heard you can you can break if a guy injects them with Keverjet Trimix there's a lot of different injectables that some male talent use to cheat as they call it like if you have to inject your d probably shouldn't be on set yeah that's got you i've seen those pumps or whatever oh like yeah when the guy has like a bump and you're like hitting the side or underneath it's now hidden kind of underneath the testicles

and then it'll be like oh i don't do reverse i know why you don't do reverse is because it'll show the unit that you have that you have a fake

that's crazy

i would never get it enlarged you know yeah why i feel like it takes away the pleasure oh well not just that but it's like this is me like i don't want to sit there and oversensitize my area, you know?

Like, something like this would work, right?

Because it's just like a natural supplement where having a pump.

Now, as you get older, you may notice that, like, the need for a ring because the back flow isn't there.

Or, and that's where, like, you use something like Gainsway, for instance.

So, I don't know if you know how to

the medical side of Melissa.

So, there's Phoenix Marie, and then there's Melissa with the medical side.

And I actually am one of the only non-doctor clinicians trained to do it.

And what it does is it uses ESWT extracorporal shockwave therapy, which is actually meant for ligament tears.

And that's what they used it for, as well as clearing plaques in the heart and surgeries.

So

heart doctor said, I wonder what would happen if I put it on my predundal artery, which are the two main arteries that fill the corpus cavernosums.

So if you have plaque down there because you're getting older, you're having issues, it literally allows you to fully engorge.

So most guys will get a size

And really, it's about an inch like girth and an inch length just because of, and it's all natural.

Like it's nothing you're doing.

You're not taking supplements for it.

Wow.

It's just because you now have better blood flow.

Interesting.

I got to look into that for my friends, not for me.

Yeah, yeah, but it's like something, and it's real and it works and it's not going to hurt you, causes no harm.

You're fine to f ⁇ the same day.

Like there's no like limits because I'm all about doing non-evasive stuff.

I'm all especially like aesthetically.

I try to be holistic as possible.

I'm not a fan of facial procedures.

Yeah, no, it's like I saw you got the exosome, so I thought that was cool.

Yeah, one of my girlfriends owns that clinic in London with her brother.

So Dr.

Dooku, and then Viviana owns Genevieve.

And she's like, listen, let me just do exosomes into your face.

I'm like, how do you do them?

She's all, it's a cold blast.

Yeah.

And so it freezes into your cells.

And I'm like, oh, okay.

It's not micronealing.

It's nothing like that.

I was like, hey, I'm going to be 43.

Like, I'm down to try, like, anti-aging.

I'm into that stuff.

Yeah.

I'm looking into stem cells.

I actually heard some girls get stem cells in their.

I don't know if you heard of that.

So PRP, platelet-rich plasma, is your own natural stem cells.

So there's exosomes, which is a byproduct of actual Wharton's jelly, right?

So if you take that.

you break it down so wharton's jelly is the cow exosomes are the milk right so they're all beneficial the deal is if you're gonna do something like that, make sure you're under the age of 50, 45 to 50,

because after that, your platelet with plasma isn't as, it's only as good as how old you are.

Right.

Now, if you can get an umbilical cord, Wharton's jelly, which they do have in a lot of different places, your best bet is to go to a different country because it's actually banned here in the States.

I heard that, yeah.

Yeah, so I wouldn't put it in my McColl slitish in my b.

If anything, I'd do something like a Viv, which is, again, another cold plast using a thermage type of vibe.

So it's just shrinking down mucosal tissue.

So you have better sensation down there for women.

And after childbirth, a lot of girls have like tears inside of them.

So this can actually help heal the tears as well.

Damn, look at you.

You know you're stuck.

I do.

I'm really.

It's cool to see this side of you.

Right?

I'm like, it's not just okay.

I have a brain.

I love that.

That's one of the things is Dr.

Dooku's like, let's open some clinics in Vegas and do a whole bunch of fun stuff.

And I'm like, I'm in.

Yeah, that sounds fun.

Phoenix, been a blast.

Where can people watch you or find you?com, Phoenix Marie, and everywhere else on the internet, guys.

Love it.

Thanks so much for coming on.

Thank you.

Thanks for watching, guys.

As always, see you tomorrow.