Nelk Boys & Dana White Drama, Toxic Relationships & Overcoming Homelessness | Bob Menery DSH #318

Oh, the greatest trick in the book is this, dude.

Like, I have it down with science.

Like, say there's two little smoke shows sitting right there at the fucking table.

Got my cell phone, and I'll just pan the room.

I'll just catch their face.

And then I'll just wait and see the reaction.

Because then when I put them on a story, all these dudes that are like hyper-obsessed with like what the fuck we do, they'll text these girls and be like, hey, you're sitting next to Bob, you're sitting next to Bob.

And I'll be like, damn.

I don't have to do anything.

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The Man the Myth the Legend in the building today, Bob Menery.

Interesting introduction.

I don't know why you said the Man the Miss the Legend.

Well, he's coming off a hot week, man.

That was the most viral podcast I've ever seen, I think.

It was a great quality podcast because we hadn't been the same.

Me and Kyle and Dana all have such an amazing chemistry behind the scenes.

And everything you saw in that podcast is exactly how it is behind the scenes.

So Dana's always just grilling you.

Kyle's just sitting there.

Yeah, I mean, dude, yeah, of course.

Like, and you can't really say anything against him because

you can't, because at the end of the day, when you do these podcast episodes and all that, you got to be aware of, like, you know, somewhat, even though you don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck about much, but your public image.

Yeah.

And you can't really fucking badger the president of the UFC and talk shit to him because he's the president of the UFC.

Yeah, what are you going to say to him?

I got to take it on the chin.

Yeah.

I can throw a couple little jabs in here, but I'm going to get beat at the end of the day in that fucking argument because I'm not as successful and not as well off as he is.

The only difference is Dana did not have any clue what he was talking about.

He didn't know the situation.

He only knew Kyle's son.

He is there to protect the boys, which is fine.

I get along well with them.

We dropped everything.

The lawsuit's dropped.

Everything's gone.

I love Kyle.

I always have.

But at the end of the day, you fuck with me.

I'm going to fucking let you know about it.

You said on the show you didn't regret how you handled the situation.

Do you still feel that way or do you think it was your ego kicking in?

Ego is always there, but at the end of the day, I think that I just know when there were some things that were off, and I'm going to let you hear about it.

I'm not going to go, like, there's one guy you don't disrespect.

It's been a guy who's been a great partner for you for a long time.

Yeah.

We're in a great place, which is awesome.

I mean, Kyle and I went from not talking for six months to, you know, conversing every 15 minutes now.

So you're back on the pod officially?

Yeah, I mean, my original deal, which I never really disclosed in the show, was six episodes.

I dropped the lawsuit.

I ate the legal fees.

I was the bigger man, in a sense.

I mean, if we had gone through the process of that, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind we would have won that claim.

You're probably six figures in legal fees at that point, too.

I'm down 200.

holy crap i'm in for 200 000 so i lost 200 000 this whole thing so when everybody says like you know going to court i'm going to sue you i'm going to sue you it never works kyle lost i lost and it was just a mess but at the end of the day

why did i do it is because

i mean i don't know look it came full circle so i mean who knows what would have happened but i it was a it was a part of just disrespect that was shown and i told them that from the beginning and uh they didn't listen and that's it i mean they did kyle's a great partner he's a great kid and all that they're little sharks and you know there's one guy you don't fuck around with, and that's me when it comes to just, you know, especially if I'm offering the amount of value that I offered you.

But at the end of the day, we're all good.

And who was a majority of your anger towards?

Because I've seen you bring up Shahidi.

I don't know.

The problem was, you didn't know.

So it was always like, because they're smart.

It's like anything else.

When you deal with these guys and whoever else, they pass you on to somebody else and they pass it on to somebody else.

Like, all right, well, hey, let's have this happy dad.

By the way, Kyle claims that we got a happy dad offer.

That is the furthest thing from the truth.

There was no no paperwork sent to us.

Kyle, you are dead wrong on that.

And I will say that 100%.

They offered us, there was never an offer with paperwork involved.

So it was that song and dance kind of dance you around and whatnot, which is fine.

Like at the end of the day, it's business.

Like if they didn't feel they wanted me a part of Happy Dad, that's fucking fine.

But just tell me straight up.

Don't lead me along.

Don't lead me along.

Yeah.

Because I'm not going to sit there and not take, you know, the 30% of ad revenue that I was guaranteed and allow Happy Dad to dance around the fucking screen when I could be making you know money elsewhere for that 30% ad revenue, you know what I mean?

But it was like, hey, talk to John.

Well, John hails that.

Well, Sammy hails it.

Well, Kyle hails it.

It was like this dance around.

And then finally, I was like, enough is enough.

Sued them.

Only sued one person in my life.

It was them.

And it was more just to be like, yo, bro, like at the end of the day, just I'm not afraid of anything.

I don't care how powerful you guys are.

I don't care how many fans you have.

It's more about principle for me.

I don't care how many people talk shit to me on the internet.

I don't care about your fucking little fanboys and all that.

I don't give a fuck.

Like, you meet me.

You know who I am.

You know the kind of stand-up guy I am.

You know I have those relationships because I'm a stand-up dude.

I do my word.

Are there times where I don't do my word and deliver?

Yes.

But at the end of the day,

it'll happen eventually.

It's just sometimes it takes a little time when I give my word on something.

Did that affect your relationships?

Did a lot of people side with them during that whole

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Of course.

Yeah, I mean, of course.

I lost a lot of people.

I mean, definitely a lot of people.

I mean, I went off the rails like the past couple years.

Like it was a very dark, dark time for me.

So I went into a very dark place.

It has nothing to do with my work ethic it has nothing to do with anything that I fucking

um

it was more just personal life stuff and that's why I looked like I was a mess so it looked like at that time

that I was a mess because I lost Nelc that had nothing to do with it oh really no personal thing yeah so like I didn't not work and do all the shit data claims because of that I had personal stuff going on in life that I carried over to the internet because I just don't like I always from when I started this thing I always want to just always put whatever I can on the internet that's going on in the moment without fear of cancellation without fear of judgment without fear of anything I want to to show real shit as much as I can.

Yeah, and I know you've gone through some personal battles.

You used to be homeless, right?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I was sleeping in the back of a car

in LA.

Yeah, for I was a caddy at a country club, had a horrible cocaine addiction.

Damn.

Seven years, I haven't done blow.

I mean, you know, the Adderall shit that I take once in a while and whatnot, which is actually the worst, just as bad, you know.

Adderall is pretty bad.

It's pretty bad.

That's why everybody's always like, hey, I have AHD.

Should I be prescribed to Adderall?

I'm like, you know, at the end of the day, probably not.

The cons don't weigh the pros.

Yeah.

But I've also done some of the most and accomplished some of the most amazing things that you can't even fucking fathom based on what I was taking at all.

Can't deny that.

So it's kind of that fine in between.

But yeah.

Have you tried micro-dosing mushrooms?

I just recently did, bro.

It's nice, right?

Yeah, I did it in a real micro-dose way because my biggest fear is like, you know, I don't want to see the devil and jump on your fucking cliff and have a bad trip.

But I definitely micro-dosed the other day and there was, I was happy.

Willy Wonka was playing.

I was in my room and I was dancing around, fucking all fucked up.

Yeah, you know, and then hopped on a plane here and here I am.

You've been flying a lot, man.

Boston, Vegas.

you moved out here though right I moved out to Vegas we're launching a casino monkey too yeah it's coming out international so we'll be out in Vancouver we'll be out in all these different countries and whatnot and then in the US in the states we have a license

for I think 20 something states 22 states where we'll be launching an exact replica of kind of prize picks model with prop wagers and you know I look at it is when I sign the deal with them you know when you have me as a partner I'm gonna make sure that shit goes goes well that's the biggest misconception is I'm a bad partner you I'm all over the place, but at the same time,

I'm very OCD on getting something done.

And that's one of my finest strengths is just the ability to just, I don't, I can't stop.

I can't sleep until I finish something.

What's your sleep schedule like, I know?

It's so inconsistent.

I mean, last night I went to bed at 7 o'clock at night.

7 o'clock at night, woke up at 3 in the morning, woke up.

Yeah,

fucking go to Red Rock.

Went to Red Rock, met some chick at the casino.

Started playing fucking slots with her at like 4 in the morning, just me and her and nobody else.

Tried to fuck her.

didn't work out usually i have pretty good game when it comes to closing pussy but it didn't work out last night did she know you

okay so it's probably harder when the girl doesn't know about you yeah but then what you'll do is like if she doesn't know about me what i'll do is like kind of like i'll low-key let them know who i am if it's not like you know i'll let them know because it's definitely plays my advantage like it increases my chance of getting pussy is if they know who i am yeah i've seen you tag them on your story that's a little trick you do right yeah i mean oh the greatest trick in the book is this dude like i i have it down with science like say there's two little smoke shows sitting right there at the fucking table and i'm sitting there by myself i'll take on my cell phone and i'll just pan the room and i'll just catch their face and i'll be like here i am at catch having a great time fuck it the story is irrelevant where i'm eating is irrelevant but the fact of the matter is i got their face in there yeah and then i'll wait like five ten minutes you could do this too And then I'll just wait and see the reaction because then when I put them on the story, all these dudes that are like hyper-obsessed with like what the fuck we do will text these girls and be like, hey, you're sitting next to Bob, you're sitting next to Bob.

And they'll be like, damn.

I don't have to do anything.

You got that cool audience that just loves what you do.

We have a very, very strong audience.

Definitely a strong audience.

And when Nelc and I are together, it's a powerhouse.

So it's good to be back in business for those guys.

Exciting to see you back there, man.

And you're bringing Harry Potter on the podcast.

I got, you know, I've been trying, you know, Harry's tough to get to, man.

And the only reason why we want Harry Potter is like, oh, it's the fascination with Harry Potter.

It's, well, me and Kyle just have like an inside joke about Harry Potter.

And, you know, a lot of the times when you do stuff, it's like when comedians say or whatever, like, I don't do shit to appease the general audience.

I do shit to just make myself laugh and to make my inner circle laugh.

And then hopefully it carries over.

So

Kyle and I always talk about like whenever we were going wild, we're on the road, we were running around, running around.

Like our favorite times were sometimes we just post up the chick in bed and we got a good night's sleep and a girl was next to us and we're watching fucking Harry Potter.

There's nothing better.

That's a classic though, man.

You know, and then hopefully after you have you come and you bust the night, you still like the girl.

But that's the hard part because that's very rare to find.

I mean, you see how many times you are sleeping next to a girl, you're fucking a girl, because I'm in a very like single phase phase right now.

And there's not a lot of people that I enjoy and they probably feel the same way.

But after shit's done, being around, you know what I mean?

So you're trying to date right now, but you can't find.

No, I'm all business.

I'm trying to fuck everything that moves.

Oh, so you're still trying to fuck?

Everything, yeah.

I mean, why wouldn't I?

Went through three years of like really committed into this thing that I was really committed to with like family.

Like, I wanted to go a different direction.

Like, I wanted to settle down.

I came out of this life.

I was trying to come out of this life of this fast-paced world of social media.

And I'm like, I don't give a fuck about any of this stuff.

I want a normal life like that's how I was raised and so I tried to do that that backfired huge trying to live a normal life yeah I mean of course I was I mean I was supposed to have a kid didn't happen

supposed to fucking you know get married to this fucking bitch that fucking was just awful didn't happen

and so what it did then I had a decision of like okay well what the fuck am I gonna do Let's go back to war.

And that's where I'm at right now is going back to war mode where I'm the most deadly motherfucker there is on the planet when it comes to closing deals, getting shit done, introductions, introductions, people.

Like, I'm very, I'm a savage when it comes to, I mean, I believe I'm one of the most connected people in the fucking world.

And I'll put that against anybody else on the planet.

You're probably one or two degrees away from almost anyone in the country.

Sometimes it takes six.

Sometimes it takes six, which is actually a very interesting thing, too.

Like, when people are trying to get in contact with people, right?

Like, I always say how easy it is to access somebody you're looking for based on the power of using social media.

So, say, for instance,

my mother was a huge fan of Susan Lucci.

Susan Lucci was on this show fucking all my children, right?

I mean, we sat out of the president.

We've done all this shit, right?

Some fucking reason, Susan Lucci was the hardest fucking lady to even get in fucking contact with, bro.

I went through her like gardener.

That's what I did is I went through her followers and saw, because if you think about it, right?

You're trying to get in contact with somebody huge, right?

Okay, well, you're going to go to their agent.

You're going to go whatever.

All right, that doesn't work.

Well, guess what?

You have access now with the internet to be able to look at who they follow.

And there might be somebody who has like 700 followers.

And it's like her gardener, but she just fucks with her.

Yeah.

I'll just hit that motherfucking gardener up.

Smart, you know what I mean?

Wow.

That's how I get to you.

Yeah.

If I need you, if that's a real desperate play, because I always try and play it.

Like, I don't want to appear like a fucking crazy ass stalker or whatever, but at the end of the day, whatever it takes.

Now, you might be a stalker because when I commented on Summer's photo, you DM'd me in a minute, bro.

I did.

You know what it is?

I mean, I just was afraid that, like, I just don't.

Anybody that fucks with somebody that

is an enemy of mine,

I don't have a lot of enemies, and I do consider that a direct enemy.

I didn't know stuff, to be honest.

It's a female.

It's like, oh, you're Bob, you're bashing a girl, all this stuff.

It's like, you have no idea.

I got to drop it.

I got to let it go.

But at the end of the day,

I just do not fuck with that person at all.

And I just didn't know if you were doing an interview with her.

Yeah.

And by all means, please do it.

No, by all means, please do an interview with Summer.

Summer, if you're listening, tell whatever the fuck you want about me and our relationship together.

Please do.

Please talk about it because you have nothing to say wow so there you go i didn't know how how much you hated her and you also put a restraining order on me damn that was

not even real and you admitted that in front of all my partners and

that's not okay to do especially when i've done so much for you had your back and you stabbed me in the back multiple times with multiple dudes yeah let's let's stop those little dms to people behind my back trying to fucking talk shit because if you want to talk shit just sit on a fucking podcast show and sit down with him and talk to her talk to him

that's basically it she doesn't really go on pods though she's kind of why how could she go on a pod and and talk because when i i treated that girl amazing did i run her through the fucking ringer when i found out she was backstabbing me with other dudes and shit fuck yeah who cheated first huh who cheated first oh she cheated the whole entire way the whole time yeah she cheated first and then also you know what i would do is like she cheated i just fucking retaliated so i would just like revenge cheat yeah just fucking revenge cheat and then be like we want to keep doing this like we do this all day yeah but then got to a point where we're in a groove and I thought things were great and it was just like nah you don't fucking go down to Fort Lauderdale and blow some fucking dude and then you don't fuck somebody in my apartment you don't you don't do shit like that then you don't tell me you want to fucking

you don't want kids and if don't ever do that to somebody you don't fuck with somebody's head like that like I understand business and all that shit when it comes to personal kids and family you don't fucking do that so but I hope you have on the show you should because I'd love to hear her fucking talk about it that's for sure because she ain't got much damn so yeah you were dealing with that and you were dealing with the Nelk stuff so I can see why you kind of just went.

It was more that Nelk didn't bother me.

Oh, really?

No, it was just more the fact of thinking I was having a child and having a family and going that direction and having that stripped from you is very tough and very difficult and haunts your mind every fucking day.

I can't even, you know, that's what that's what freaks me the fuck out: is yeah, you don't commit to something like that at that degree and then fucking pull back on it.

Yeah, and you ended up uh going to rehab because that too, right?

I did go to rehab, yeah, I went to rehab for for five days, um,

and it was

yeah I mean

it was rehab for five days and then I just realized like I don't really need rehab

but I needed a checkout and and so what I do now is I try and check out for certain amounts of time and I know that I'm getting a little bit like whatever because it comes from stems from my OCD like the reason why sometimes I get banged up and all that shit is because life is so intense and so crazy and the shit that I'm trying to pull off on a daily basis is so nuts and the people I'm connecting with that sometimes it's okay to like I blur my mind out a little bit because it's like if I do that shit like sober or anything, dude, you can say what you want.

It's fucking, it's a, it's a, it's a roller coaster shit.

My life doesn't stop.

And people don't even know what the fuck I do.

I have like 20 businesses behind the scenes that nobody knows about.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I feel like you have really high expectations for yourself.

I just look at executing the mission at hand every day.

Like whatever my goals are for the day, let's execute them and not fail.

That's it.

I don't think too big.

I don't think too whatever.

Like I don't give a fuck what happens.

I don't like just as long as I execute the mission at hand every single day and work my ass off and get shit done.

That's all I look forward to doing in life.

I feel that.

Did you learn that from Dana?

No, I learned that from, I think I just, I think I just, it naturally came from my past of just knowing what my potential was.

Being 28 years old and being like sleeping in the back of a car and like carrying golf bags and being like, man, I'm worth so much more than what I am.

How am I here?

And then just having that motivation to not want to go back to that moment and knowing that it is very like moments away.

Knowing that it can at any time, you could flop and have shit go south and just not wanting to go back there.

And that's what keeps you awake at night is just fucking that scary fucking thing of looking back to that day when I was in a car in the rock, rock bottom in LA and being like, I never want to fucking deal with this shit again.

And that was at 26?

I don't even know.

My memory's awful, but it was around that time.

Damn.

It was around that time.

Yeah, it was crazy.

I mean, I was so paranoid, bro.

I took an accidental line of crystal meth.

Jesus.

Off the street of this guy.

You thought it was Coke?

Thought it was Coke.

I had a huge cocaine problem, like crazy.

Seven years, I haven't touched that shit really.

I mean, I've probably taken a line or two, like in between that, like, but like, I don't have any desire to do cocaine or never will.

Yeah.

Even if it's like there and everybody's doing it, like, I won't touch it.

But I can't say, I probably did, like, a line or two in, like, seven years.

Wow.

So you started it early, like, high school, college.

Dude, I was ripping bags, like

carrying golf bags for people, like, so fucked up.

And they were still tipping you?

Bro, I was the best caddy there ever was.

I was running around so fast and talking out my side of my face and going crazy.

But yeah, so like, you know, just fucking, I remember sitting in that car hallucinating off Crystal Meth.

I hadn't slept in three days.

This is my last day in L.A.

Found a side of the road.

I had a flat tire.

This is my final, final moments.

And then fucking had

sleeping there with a blanket over my fucking neck, chilling.

And then just hearing these noise.

These cars kept parking behind me, parking behind me.

I'm like, what the fuck's going on?

And there was this prostitution ring.

being run right where I parked.

These guys were coming.

They were fucking these girls in the back of the car.

And to this day, I don't know if this is real or fake, but I think it was real.

I still don't know.

Anyways, the sun came out.

I was so paranoid.

I saw shadows.

I know these guys were trying to kill me because I was in the wrong place, wrong time.

Because at the end of the day, you don't want to be parked somewhere and be a witness to something like that, right?

In my mind, at that time.

So, right when the sun came up, I peeked around.

Nobody was there.

I started my car.

I had a flat tire.

Boom, boom, boom, rolling down the road.

Fucking

started a drive, looked to my left.

Five cars came out, followed me.

And I was like, holy shit, pulled in a CVS, parking lot, parked my car.

The cars followed me into the parking lot, parked.

I burst in CVS.

I had a meltdown, set off all the alarms, went nuts, and was like, hey, like, I need help.

This guy's chasing me.

Like, what the fuck?

Like, cracked out of my fucking mind.

From their perspective, they were probably looking at this guy as like fucking just cracked out and like, whatever.

And then the fire department, the ambulance came.

Fire department's like, what's going on?

I'm like, there's guys following me.

I was just involved in something, but I don't like to talk.

But I was there.

Just can you go look in that car?

Because these guys are trying to kill me.

And they went and looked in the car and they came back and they said, hey, there's there's nobody in the car i was like oh

all right maybe i am fucked up so i went to the hospital checked in they kicked me out after 15 minutes you know it's los angeles they don't give a yeah you know it's just a crackhead in the streets left the hospital paranoid again running down the streets my buddy picks me up puts me on a plane and i go back to boston damn how long does crack last i mean it was like three days i think it was i think it was three days where i was i was like fucking on that shit it was a powerful ass whatever i did that day Lasted like I was in the back of the car for two and a half days with a blanket over my face like this so scared.

Holy shit.

It was crazy, bro.

And I think to this day, I swear to God, I don't know if it was real or fake.

You would think it's fake, but I actually think it was real.

That's what's fucked up.

But there was nobody in that car.

I know I sound crazy, but that's nuts, man.

Did your parents know you were kind of addicted at certain?

Yeah, they were very supportive.

They've always been supportive of everything I've always done.

Nice.

So, like, I mean, I definitely, they were the first ones we called.

My buddy called him.

I was like, Bob's not okay.

He's got to go home.

And my brother and sister booked a flight, and I went back to Boston and then had success really shortly thereafter after I arrived.

Ended up going to this music video shoot and

turning on this voice that I always did, which is a broadcaster voice, which actually made me viral in the internet was my voiceovers.

That's how I found out about you.

You know, which I don't really do that often anymore, which I want to get back to, but we have so much stuff going on right now.

But I do want to get back to that stuff.

But I want to do it in a real way.

I don't want to just be like, Antonio, you know, clips online and doing the voice and all that.

Like, I don't want to do that.

I want to do it in a cooler way.

So that's what we're working on.

That was iconic, man.

You blew up off those.

I was going like $2,500,000, $50,000 a day.

Not, dude.

It was insane how crazy.

Like TikTok, for instance, I don't fucking know how to use this thing.

I got like 5.1 million on there, and I just repurposed all my shit.

Damn.

So it just shows that

I was the only guy doing, like, had a great voice and doing these comedic clips.

Nobody else was doing it.

I think nobody else could do it.

Because I chose, you know, I could have went and worked for like Fox.

If I had gotten my career in a different way, I could have probably been a sports commentator and all this stuff.

But I look at it like, you know, am I really going to go?

Like, who's the top earners?

Joe Buck and Jim Nance?

And like, how long does it take to get there?

Yeah.

You got to go through like AAA AAA baseball, fucking work your way up.

Like, it just seemed like an easier path, and it also was a more comfortable path to be able to do whatever the fuck I wanted.

And I made the right choice.

You wouldn't be able to speak your mind on Fox, dude.

I'd be fired within two days.

Paul Pierce got fired.

Signing off, Bob Mettery.

See you all later.

We are fired.

When Paul Pierce got fired for playing poker with strippers, I was like, yeah, that's you definitely wouldn't last, man.

Which is like, why, why are you getting fired playing with strippers?

That's why the world's too soft.

Why?

I mean, they're so corporate.

I don't know if it affects our stock.

What does corporate mean?

Just because they have stocks.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Public traded company and other stuff.

Yeah.

I don't know.

But now I see you getting into acting, man.

You just got a big role in a movie, right?

I might do another one with Tom Cruise coming up.

I did a movie with Jake Jalen Hall, Con McGregor, Pose Malone.

Damn.

And yeah, it's great.

I'm probably in it for about 10 minutes.

I studied

theater and acting growing up.

I was obsessive with theater and acting.

That's what I always wanted to do.

And the thing was that I fucking really didn't do that as much anymore because I started to make money and started to do what I was doing on the side and this shit.

So I kind of lost the passion for that.

But when I went back into that movie set, we went to the Dominican Republic, I felt right at home again.

And to be one-on-one acting, like me and Jake, have a great scene where I pull a gun on his head and try and kill him, and that doesn't really end up too well.

You said the scene got the most views or something?

So when I sat down with the director,

maybe Doug was lying because we're trying to get this thing to go theatrical release.

And unfortunately, it's going straight to Amazon.

I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the film.

I think it's more just about they want to push streaming, which is fine.

But obviously, a theatrical release is cool.

Old school style because the whole theater aspect is dying.

Of course, people don't go to the movies anymore, which is sad.

Yeah, um,

and it definitely obviously benefits them if it's in theaters.

But yeah, I mean, he called me and said, Hey, Bob, like, we tested all the scenes with our pool of fucking people, and the top scene that was rated the highest was you and Jake's scene.

I was like, oh, it's pretty cool.

Wow, because I definitely fucked up when I showed up.

I didn't know my line.

Like, I showed up as a huge ass movie on Amazon, like, didn't even know my lines.

And it was like, I looked around, I'm like, I am fucked.

Yeah.

I got Jake Gyllenhaal and I, and I don't know one line.

So you improvised it?

I started to.

We had to do two days of it because of it.

And I'm usually prepared.

I just wasn't at the time.

Decided to go a little hot.

When did the Dominican Republic get a little wild and then showed up and didn't realize, fuck, I'm on a movie.

And but yeah, no, it was good.

We went through about like 30 takes the first day, didn't get it done.

And the second day, I just got dialed in and then took about 48 takes.

But it was hard because I had to scream at the top of my lungs over and over again because I was in pain because something happens to me.

And like, you have to actually really, you know, you're with Doug Lyman, who's a really fucking known director.

Yeah.

And you can't fuck around with movies.

And you're with Jay.

You don't want to be, you know, you got to give it your all.

So like, even though you feel like an idiot and you've been a little rusty in the game, you got to feel the moment.

Yeah.

You got to really get into that shit when something happens.

Like you break your fucking hand.

He breaks your fucking hand.

You got to really feel it.

You know what I mean?

You got to get really into it.

And that's what I try to do.

Nice, man.

It was fun.

I love it.

I want to do more movies.

Yeah, I'll keep an eye.

That comes out in March, right?

I think it's on on Amazon Prime March, something.

I think it's in March, something.

Yeah, I don't know the fucking date, but it's supposed to know the date.

So you had a relationship with Steve during the whole time, right?

Like, you guys were still tight.

Steve will do it?

Yeah.

Always.

That was the hard part.

Me and Steve were such great friends.

And that's why it's like half the reason why I dropped the lawsuit was my relationship with Dana was being affected by my relationship with Steve.

I had no problems with anybody.

I didn't even have a problem with Kyle.

It was more, you know, John and Sammy, you know, and just kind of like, and even Kyle, because Kyle was a decision maker the other day.

he's no fool.

He knew what he was doing.

And so I had a problem with those three.

And but it just, I, I couldn't hang with Steve.

I couldn't do shit with Steve because if Steve fucked with me, they'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?

He's suing us.

Right.

You know, so, but yeah, we were very tight.

We communicated a little bit behind the scenes, but never were able to do anything openly like the stream that we do, which is the greatest fucking thing in the world.

Yeah.

You guys crushing it, man.

Bro, I love what I mean.

I love it so much that, and there's no benefit for me.

I don't make any money off of it.

I don't really care.

I just do it more for the art of it all, of how it should be.

Like

Dana and him and Steve, just like as real as it gets, playing for real money.

Like, there's no faking this shit, bro.

Everything you see on that stream is 100% real.

He is playing with his own real money.

I think eventually there'll be a time where casinos pay a residency.

Yeah.

Because I think this will pick up speed.

They're bringing so much business to these casinos, man.

Yeah, I think they're bringing a lot of business to casinos.

And I think that, like, there's a lot of gaming laws.

that prohibit such activity that they do on those streams.

And so they push the boundaries as far as they can.

Oh, there's laws that they can't.

Of course.

Yeah.

I mean, for instance, alone, too, you know, it's funny is, you know, you can't restrict people from entering a gaming facility,

a gaming area?

I thought you could get banned.

You can get banned from a casino at any given time, but you can't ever stop.

Like, say, like, Dana's playing with Steve.

You cannot,

as a casino, you cannot be like, hey, guys, you cannot come in here.

So the everyday fan, you want to find Dana and Steve?

go red rock you'll see them oh you could just walk straight in walk right in and they can't do anything about it wow i didn't know that they can't do anything about it i mean they can obviously you know be like hey can you step away and all that but legally speaking they're not allowed to restrict people from entering a gaming area dang i wonder why they do that i guess they want more people playing right yeah i don't know that i don't know the logistics behind it until i talk to a lawyer that understands that stuff but i know that that's that's the rules that you can't be like hey you can't come in here because dane and steve are playing like you can't do that yeah you know you got steve a million dollars cash the other day how the hell did you

i i think it was two and a half or three million uh overall with options included i mean he was playing dead in the mud lost a million dollars like insane and he's just my homie so i was like dude like i with you heavy i always have steve's hilarious and so i was like

you know what's the benefit for me i'm like yeah i kind of look like the man so i'll do it and i was like you know what

I'm gonna go and get your million bucks back, Steve.

Popped an Adderall and just went to war for 24 hours.

Called this company and said, he called multiple companies and said, hey, look, we're looking for a sponsor of the stream.

So like, because at the end of the day, Steve can't play with his own money.

He's got to play with sponsored money.

Or he, like, you know what I mean?

He shouldn't be coming up there and playing with his own money.

He's got a stream that has 25,000 active users.

He doesn't have a deal with the casino yet,

but he's still playing with his own money.

That can't happen.

So I wanted to find a way where I could put some dollars in his pocket.

He still gets to collect them.

But it's not his own money.

That's smart.

Because the problem is of why the stream is not going to be consistent and work well is because Steve, you're not going to win against a casino long term.

Yeah, he might run out of money.

If you run out of money, you're fucked.

So that was my goal without any real,

was just to keep the lights on.

Yeah.

And so that's why Dana gave me shit about, oh, you got to fucking pull him away from the table and all that.

So I'm like, dude, first of all, I do.

If you watch that stream, you understand that I do fucking pull Steve away and try and get him to.

He's very hard to convince.

He's going to do whatever the fuck he wants.

But there are a couple of people he listens to.

I'm one of them when it comes to pulling him back a little bit.

And I've always been that guy.

He lost.

I brought him.

They came to sponsor the stream, this company, for $100,000.

And when they sat in the room, I told them to fly out, no exceptions.

You got to fly here within four hours.

They flew there.

Four hours?

Four hours.

I was like, get on the plane.

Let's go.

Like, we don't have time.

I'm a good salesman.

You know, and so then I got him for two and a half million.

Wow.

That's nuts, man.

And I went to Steven, so there you go.

You gamble heavy, too?

I used to.

I probably lost a million, two million dollars lifetime, so I don't hold too much anymore.

But I don't play like those guys.

And I did like closet gambling back in.

Poker.

Not even poker.

Just like I played slots and did all that dumb shit.

It's just like, you know, at the end of the day, we're launching our own casino, so it's better to be on that end of it.

Yeah.

You know,

tell everybody this, you're going to lose if you play with us.

Like, the odds are against you.

At least you're honest.

Like, there's going to be people that fucking win, but your odds are against you.

If you play the casino, you know that.

But, you know, if you're going to play anywhere, you play with us.

Yeah, long term.

Seems like Dana White just wins, though.

I haven't seen him lose.

Well, Dana's strategy is amazing.

That's what's good.

But see, the difference is this: gamblers, it's like anything else.

The longer you play, the more chance you have of losing.

Yeah.

Right?

And when you have Dana's bankroll and Dana's credit line, like it's hard to, that's why they they don't like players like Dana because Dana can go in there, put 30 grand down.

All right, he loses.

All right, 60 grand.

Aringale.

And then just, you know.

Yeah.

But he does the quick 30 grand.

Like, if he wins two hands, he's out.

That's it?

He'll stay for fucking four.

I'd say Dana White's average time playing blackjack is less than three minutes on the daily.

Wow.

When he goes to places.

He'll come in, snipe you for 60, 90K, and he is out.

That's discipline, man.

But if he's down fucking three, four million, he will not shut down.

He will fucking shut down.

You've seen him go down that much?

Oh, man.

I've seen Dana in days where he's just battling.

Jeez.

And just, you know, like long hours, like 17 hours, 20 hours.

I mean, I wasn't there during the whole time because at that time it's just kind of like, you know, you got to respect it.

If he's going to war and he's that down,

you let him fucking be.

Let him go to war by himself.

But when he's winning and everything's great and the environment's happy, it's fucking amazing.

It's the greatest fucking place to be.

The Red Rock Room is so fun.

It's fucking awesome.

I got to check it out.

You got to come down and play with us sometimes.

At least, it's, dude, it's the best atmosphere ever, bro.

The best atmosphere ever down there.

Yeah, those streams are electric.

Dana just said he's not going on any more shows.

Do you think that was because of you?

He told me prior, the podcast.

So I don't know.

I asked him.

I said, was the Howie Mandel thing fake?

He never responded.

So I know Howie very well.

Howie's a good friend of mine.

And I know Dana very well.

I wouldn't

put it past Howie to be like, hey, can you walk out of this interview?

But I wouldn't put it past him.

But at the same time, I also wouldn't pass Dana to walk out of an interview.

So I'm not sure.

I don't know the answer on if that was real or not.

But at the end of the day, I did ask him.

He didn't respond.

But I do remember talking to Dana prior and Dana saying, Hey, you know what, dude?

I can't.

I'm not doing any more fucking podcasts.

So he told me that even before this happened.

He's sick of them.

So, you know, but he's going to do it for Kyle.

He's going to do it for them.

He understands what he understands.

Hollerhead and the UFC benefits with the milk relationship.

He understands how big that audience is.

Yeah.

You know, even with me and stuff like that.

He understands our fucking, you know, Dana's smart, but he's very, very cutthroat.

He will let you know how it is.

And that's why dana white is my favorite

favorite person on planet earth it's honesty but it's it's like in a good way it's not like he's just attacking you for no reason he cares about you

yeah i mean i think he cares about me i just don't think he gives a fuck and he just finds me funny and i think that we just have a great relationship and he knows that i can benefit his business yeah if i get my shit together which i have together which he doesn't realize like

We're good.

But I think that yeah, he does.

Dana has a soft spot for me.

And I think

he's the greatest fucking dude I've ever met in my life.

Yeah.

There's nobody better than Dana White.

I mean, you connected him with Nelk.

Those guys have done him big things together.

I did.

They won't let you know that, though.

Yeah, I saw that, actually.

Dana will be like, oh, my son was beating off to Kyle in the videos and all that shit.

I'm like, bro, you have no fucking idea.

I brought you and dropped them off like on a school bus and not forgot you and fucking made that shit happen.

Has he ever offered you a piece of Hollerhead?

No.

But he's definitely been transparent about if I support Hollerhead, there'll be a cash deal in place.

Nice.

And so, like, I don't give a fuck.

Dana's been so.

Like, Dana will sometimes, even small or whatever, big money or whatever, like, Dana will, Dana takes care of me.

Yeah.

And, you know, I got his back for life on any venture he does, you know, including power slap, which I think the sport is brutal, but I do think it has potential.

And

yeah, so we helped him a little bit with that gaming app.

We got a bunch of downloads on that app and everything like that.

But yeah, I'll support anything that dude does because he's been there for me through thick and thin.

If you could power slap anyone in the world, who would you power slap?

Well, I'd never lay hands on a girl.

So that's out.

But I would probably,

hmm, I don't really have a lot of enemies.

I don't really not like a lot of, yeah, I don't really have a lot of enemies.

I have people that don't fuck with me, and I don't know why.

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if I could power slap anybody, there really isn't anybody that would power slap.

I'd fight anybody.

Like, okay, all that boxing shit and all the bare knuckle stuff.

You would do that?

Oh, oh my god, immediately.

I would love to do that.

That's something I want to do.

I would love to fight somebody.

I would watch you fight Bradley Martin.

Maybe Bradley couldn't have it.

I couldn't even come near Bradley.

Bradley would murder me in a fucking second.

I would go into the fight.

No, like, I'd fight Steiny.

Well, you're like 50 more pounds than him, right?

Yeah.

I'm 170

and I would just fight him with no training, and I would just fight him.

I would fight Steiny immediately.

Steiny wants to fight me on any fucking platform at any given time.

It doesn't have to be a platform.

I'll fight him, but I love him.

So there's no jealousy with his come up.

Oh, no way.

Because people say that online.

Yeah, no.

I mean, I don't, first of all, I don't read anything.

Like, you'll never find me in a comment section reading.

Oh, you don't respond to anything.

I don't.

I mean, I...

I don't have time, A, and B, I just don't care.

I used to care.

I used to be always like, oh, I just don't give a fuck anymore.

I've been in this game for fucking 10 years.

Like, you know, I've known, I've been at the top, the bottom,

like, I put my life out in line with all my shit, dumb shit I say.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

There's no winning to responding to hate comments.

I respond to hate comments in a couple ways.

If it's just pure, you're being fucking retarded.

That's not a nice word, but at the end of the day, if you're just being fucking retarded, I will fucking block you immediately.

And what does that look like when you set up?

You're such a clown, you don't do anything with your life, you're a fucking loser.

Like, if you say something like that to me, I'm just like, okay, I know that's not true.

You,

you know, I'm out.

Yeah.

Goodbye.

And I'll block you.

If it's something like, hey, Bob, look, I think that you should slow down here in this area.

And I think you should do this in this area.

And I think you could add value in this area, but you're struggling here in this area.

That's constructive criticism.

So then I'll respond to that and I'll have a conversation with the person.

I'll actually pick their brains because I do realize that these people are people that watch my every move and even somewhat know me better than myself.

So I'll look at it that way.

If it's constructive criticism, I will take that.

And I'll have a conversation.

I'll say, what do you think I can do better?

I'll have it randomly with a fucking 19-year-old fucking kid in in the middle of fucking Iowa.

I'll have that conversation with people sometimes in DMs.

But if you're just blowing smoke and not putting anything behind it, facts or anything like that, I'm just out.

I don't care anymore.

But in the beginning, I wanted to keep every follower.

I was so paranoid about losing a follower.

But now it's gotten to the point where it doesn't really matter anymore.

Yeah, I think people are more open.

People are even posting political stuff now.

Yeah.

I don't really get in the politics game.

You don't?

You don't think it's worth it?

I just don't really, I don't know enough.

I'm not smart enough to really sit there.

Like we had Trump.

We sat down with Trump.

It was like, like, I remember going to that interview.

First of all, we smoked weed before.

Steve looks at me and is like, hey, you want to smoke a blunt?

I'm like, God, almighty fucking let's go.

Let's go.

I mean, if there is one moment to go kind of viral and hilarious and have something panic attack on the air, it's with the president.

Were you freaking out before, like, super nervous?

No, it was just business per usual.

Okay.

Never got nervous.

I never really got nervous

in interviews ever.

In the beginning, I did.

But like anything else, what comes is anybody that's watching this and,

you know, and you're going to find a stage in your life where you're extremely shit in your pants and whatever, but you gotta push through that because once you start to gain the confidence and you start to produce results, that shit goes away, and then it becomes really fun and exciting.

All the fear goes away, yeah.

So, in the beginning stage, there was fear, but now there's not any fear anymore, it's just more just like dialed in, let's execute a mission, just crush it.

I love that.

And the Nelk audience is super honest.

I remember the first few episodes you were on, you were getting some heat, you were getting some heat in the comments, but you, I don't know if you read them, but I guess you got a lot of that.

At that time, I did.

Yeah, I read it.

I read, I know the overall, like, but the thing is, this, I'm so confident in my way to sway

people because I know at the end of the day I am a good dude.

I know at the end of the day I am funny.

I know at the end of the day I do add massive value to that show.

So I knew at the end of the day, like, you can talk all the shit you want.

Like, just watch because I'm going to produce results for you guys and make the shows more entertaining.

That's just going to be,

it's like anything else.

Like, I leave it hypothetically compared to an athlete.

Like, I just leave it all in the field.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, by the end of your run there, you were, everyone loved you, dude.

Yeah, we made a good run.

And then obviously, when you call out and you go out and say, fuck you, Kyle, where's my fucking money?

Cock sucker.

Fuck you, Shahidi, and all that.

You have to understand that people have to choose a side.

Yeah.

And so that was the tough part is knowing that I was going to have millions of people fucking crush me.

And everything I've ever done is going to come out or anything I've done.

And people would start talking shit and this stuff and this because they all fucking hate me because they blow those guys.

I did not see many people side with you.

I'd say a majority still don't.

Yeah, it was pretty wild.

I've never seen such a one-sided

public battle.

You know what we do?

We just show results.

I mean we produced a great episode day night whether or not I was a punching bag and I got shit talk like we got 3.6 million right now on that on that show though

their last fucking eight shows 1.2 million 1.1 million whatever we got 3.6 man that's not counting the clips bro the clips got tens of millions nuts on tick tock anything like that I knew that I knew new go in that room and I know that every show I'm on with full send will be fucking amazing and I know that because I'm so OCD I'm so dialed and I'm so want to appease people because I am a people pleaser at the end of the day I want to make people happy I don't care about the money I don't care about the fame I don't give a fuck about any of that shit.

Pussy, yes, I care about it.

But at the end of the day, I just want to build the greatest product.

I want to create a great movie for people to watch.

And that's what my goal is every time I go and step in and sit in the room with those guys.

Nice.

Were the pods getting more views when you were on?

Tough, unfair thing to say.

Yes, they were.

In their defense,

it was the beginning of the show.

I think that me and Kyle were running in an operation that was so good.

And I think that he's lost that a little because he's not as motivated because he's got so many things going on.

But, you know, with a guy like Kyle, that's why we were good for each other.

Kyle would call me and be like, hey, Bob, slow down the fucking going crazy and like, let's dial it in.

I'd call him and be like, we got to get this guy.

Let's go.

So we do that one, two punch.

That's why we were so fucking deadly.

And that's why we had that run for a while.

Yeah.

With everybody great.

Like now they got these guys like John Summits and fucking on the errands.

Like I don't fucking know who these guys are.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know.

That guy also talks shit once to me.

I'm like, bro.

John Summit?

Is he an artist?

Yeah, he's like a DR or something.

He ran his mouth on something.

I guess his boy fucked my girl or something like that.

He started running his mouth.

It's like, bro, just, what are you doing?

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, I don't know who that guy is.

I don't really, he plays the DJ thing.

I mean, I just, the guy talked shit once and it was like, all right, bro.

And then I try to reason with him.

Like, he, he's like, oh, you're down bad or something.

I'm like, buddy, who the fuck are you, first of all?

Don't ever get involved in my business.

I don't fucking know you, kid.

And second of all, like.

Stay in your lane, Bub.

Trust me.

Do you keep tabs on these people or you just let it go?

I mean, I just don't fuck with that guy.

Yeah.

I mean, if you say something to me like that and then leave it at that and don't ever fuck with me, like, hey, bro, like, we're good.

Like, I don't fuck with you.

Like, I don't fuck with you at all.

Sorry.

You're going to, like, run your mouth during a time where I was like in a place where, like, who, like, stop.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know, like, stop.

He's probably just picking a side, though, right?

He's cool with them.

I mean, I don't know.

I would never, it doesn't matter if you're picking a side.

Just like stay in your lane, bro.

Don't send me a message or whatever the fuck it is.

Or maybe I sent, I don't know what happened.

I think he dropped a comment or something.

I responded to him and said something to him.

But it's like, dude, just like, there's no reason for you to even open your mouth.

I feel that.

When you made that initial call out to Kyle on your IG story, were you sober or were you drunk?

Good question.

I'd say for the most part, you know, I do like to party and like to have my fair share of cocktails.

I think that what I said that day, I remember I was sitting in the steps of

my ex-girlfriend's place when I made that video.

And I stepped outside and I finally was just like, fuck these guys.

I don't care.

I know what's going to happen if I put this out there, but I'm going to do it.

And I just called them out.

And that's that.

I mean,

I fucked up or not.

I mean, yeah, I say for the most part, like, not fucked up, but definitely like stone cold sober, you're not going to find a lot with me.

Yeah.

Like, in a sense of like stone cold sober, like.

I'm either going to be like a little bit sleep deprived sometime or be like a little bit fucking have a couple cocktails and be like, you know, that's just the way I am.

Yeah.

And that's how I'm going to continue to be.

You're drinking daily right now?

Yeah.

I mean, you know, I love cocktails, bro.

I love having beers.

I love ripping shots.

I love like,

yeah, I mean, am I like an alcoholic?

Probably.

Like, yeah.

You're drinking daily, yeah.

Are you getting drunk or are you just no?

I don't get drunk.

Okay.

I never get sloppy.

I never get drunk.

I always stay just like marine disciplined.

Well, that might be the Adderall too, though.

But yeah, but I don't take Adderall that much anymore.

Okay.

I don't take it that much anymore.

Like, I definitely pop the pill before this.

But at the end of the day, like, I don't take it that like I used to.

Like, before it was nuts.

Like, I was taking it, like, bro, I took it.

Remember, I was at rock bottom one point when I found out all the kids' shit, which I don't really want to get into.

It's the one thing I want to talk about.

But that's the, I took like 12 pills in one day.

Damn, yeah, in one day, 12 Adderalls.

Can you OD on those?

Probably.

Your fucking heart could probably explode.

You take 12 fucking Adderalls in a fucking day.

So you just fall your chest just.

No, I was just, it didn't really.

It was just whatever, but I was in a dark, dark place.

And that's what I decided to go to rehab and check out.

And

Chad and from the Hopaholics podcast and all that.

Oh, that's my guy.

Oh, I love you.

Just come

such a fucking great dude.

You went to his center?

He called me.

Nice.

Chad and

his and his other boy hit me up and were just like, bro, you need help.

I was like, I know.

So I went there and I checked out for five days.

That was it.

And then I came back and did my thing.

And do I need help at the end of the day?

Like, maybe, but

I'm in a very content place.

I'm in a very happy place.

I'm in a good spot mentally right now for myself, you know, and it's a lot better than it was before.

So I'm just going to keep riding with this.

And, you know, like, yeah, I'll try and cut down drinking and all that stuff.

But I'm fine.

Like, dude, there's nobody that works harder.

There's nobody that operates at a higher level than I do.

And, like, it may not show right away, but like I said, it's a, it's a marathon.

It's on a sprint.

So just be patient.

Like, and you guys will see.

And whether it matters to you or not, you'll, you'll see what I'm doing.

I love it.

So you're pretty happy right now.

You're in a good spot.

I'm in a very good spot.

I finally got that thing out of my head with the chick.

I still fired off a little bit the other day because I do, I get, I get crazy.

I mean, three years is three years, man.

You can't just erase that, you know?

Three years with somebody you're with every day.

It's like anything else.

Everybody's like, oh, you're a pussy, whatever.

Like, understand this.

You're with somebody every day for three years.

You love this person so much.

You really care about this person.

You give your all.

You're forgiving this person.

And it's like

they betray you at that level.

There's going to be a lot of confusing thoughts.

There's going to be a lot of animosity.

There's going to be a lot of hate.

And you just got to ride through it because everybody always tells me now.

People text me all the time.

As much as shit's talked online, I get thousands of DMs.

on a week being like, hey, Bob, I just broke up my girl.

I just did all that stuff.

And I'm like, nobody's going to tell you how to handle that situation.

Yeah.

You're going to have to ride through this and just have like,

my best advice is like, you just fuck everything that moves.

That's what I did.

I don't know if that's the move, though.

For me, it helped.

So for me, it helped.

Like, I just fucked a lot.

Not fucks, but just I always had a girl around.

Okay.

Because my dangerous, most dangerous times were at that period of time when I lost my chick and like, you know,

was when I had idle time alone, sitting there in bed.

And my mind wasn't distracted.

It was hyper-focused on her.

Got it.

So that's.

You're overthinking, overanalyzing.

So that's why I substituted a girl to to be with me.

And, you know.

But that's temporary.

But I needed temporary healing in order to fucking fix the long-term shit.

I needed it because otherwise I would have sat there and just fucking not been in a bed.

Gone crazy.

You know?

And that's when I would have abused shit and done shit.

You know what I mean?

Wow.

You know, that's why I like to have people.

I don't I don't fuck with a lot of people in a sense of having a lot of people around.

You know, I have a very small circle.

I have a very small crew.

And any relationship I go into, I'm always a vault.

And that's why they respect me.

I think it's good to have a small circle, honestly.

I know people try to make as many friends as possible.

I don't believe in that.

I have a lot of friends.

I have a big circle of people that I fuck with.

But at the end of the day, like, I,

you, you have to know my rules.

My rules are: whatever the fuck happens,

we're not doing anything illegal.

We're not doing anything like that, but like, whatever happens in a room or a conversation we have fucking stays there.

Right.

It doesn't fucking leave the room.

If you respect that, I'm good.

Like, I'm a vault.

You can come to me and tell me you fucking murdered somebody.

And I'm not talking.

I feel that.

You know what I mean?

I'm not talking.

And that's why,

you know, I've seen some shit.

I know some shit.

I don't talk about anything.

And that's the way I ask for respect back.

And the thing is, this, it's like, it sounds weird.

Like, oh, yeah, I don't want to be talking.

That sounds like automated.

You're putting your hands up like you're in defense.

It's like, no, it could be as simple as a conversation me having and being like, you know, John and I had this conversation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I just don't want to be talking about that if I'm not in the room.

Don't mention my fucking name if I'm not in the fucking room.

Unless it's in a good way.

I mean, good or bad, just don't mention my fucking name.

Yeah.

Like in a sense of like, just like,

or if they ask you about how it was hanging with Bob or whatever, like, I just don't want,

I want you to, first of all, tell it exactly how it was because anybody that fucking hangs with me or understands how they, like, I, I always am a host.

No matter, like, I can go anywhere and get stuff that I want and all that.

How I ever enter every situation is that I'm hosting the situation.

I want to take care of you.

I want to make you come into my world and I want to make you a better person.

And that's the way I operate with anybody, whether it be their guests in the podcast, whether whatever.

Like, I don't care about like Nelk and them do clickbaity shit, right?

Like, hey, like, so-and-so.

They'll make misleading stuff to get views, which may be smart for business.

Yeah.

It's just not the way I operate.

Yeah.

You know?

I'm not a fan of gossip.

I've actually fired so many people because they just run their mouths.

It's not because they suck at their work.

They just, dude, people love running their mouths, man.

Yeah, I mean, you just get rid of those people real quick.

Yeah.

You know, and you just say kind of like,

disappointed.

It's nuts, dude.

They'll be such good rock stars in the business setting, but they just love talking.

I don't know why.

Yeah, I mean, it sells these days.

I don't like mind, like, and I never mind if somebody like puts clickbait shit out on me because I don't care.

I like massive amounts of views, all that stuff, whatever the fucking do.

You can make this fucking clip tomorrow.

I wouldn't judge you.

You can make this clip tomorrow being like, Bob fucking fucks summer in the ass and fucking, like, I wouldn't give a fuck.

Yeah.

But I just ask our personal stuff off the mics to be confidential.

That makes sense.

Now, you mentioned you had a lot of friends.

How many of them were there for you in your lowest moments?

A select few, a lot bailed out, which I'll never forget.

So those I don't consider friends is what I mean.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I got about a handful of like, I'd say 10.

Okay.

Dana is definitely on that list.

Nice.

So he was there for you, even though...

Because he was siding with the Nilk Boys.

Yeah, siding with the Nilk Boys, running his mouth, talking shit, but

I knew what Dana was doing.

When Dana went out and talked that first episode and really trashed me and whatever, he understands.

He knows my capabilities and he was motivating me.

And that's it.

He was, he was running his mouth just to fucking motivate me.

I knew what he was doing.

He sees my potential.

He knows.

And he had to wake me up.

And you know what's funny?

Dana White's fucking interview that fucking day when he trashed me, woke me the fuck up.

Wow.

And he says the same fucking thing he does on that fucking message as he does every day when we text.

Every day we're in communication meeting him.

That's why, and he just doesn't, he just said it on the air in front of millions and didn't give a fuck.

Now, yes, there was mutual, there was benefit to him siding with them for business reasons but i have no issues with what dana center did because because that's where our level of friendship is and whatnot is that you know i'm i come from i got thick skin bro you say how it is if i'm fucking up you let me know i don't care how many people you tell so you can put your ego to the side because a lot of the comments i saw in that interview were like your ego and stuff because i came across as very defensive and protective and because i was getting ambushed on a three-on-one like and also to where i come from bro if you're gonna impress me like i'm gonna let you fucking know about i'm not gonna sit there and get smacked around yeah yeah you know what i mean so it's like

yeah i mean i'm gonna let you hear it at the end of the day

i'm not afraid of any of you

i have zero fear of anybody in this fucking room i don't care if you're the fucking president ufc fucking monster fucking media guy or fucking fuck face to the left i have no fear i don't care so you're taking your spot back you're kicking steiny out nah steini's gonna stay steiny's stein steini's good because our banter is great like i love steiny Banter Steiny earned his chair he weaseled his way in there which I love because I taught him that I taught Steiny the game so when I hired Steiny I met Steiny with Kevin Conley, who was E for Montourage, who was my old partner.

He came into goal like a little scared little mouse looking for a job, had nothing going for him except his daddy's money.

And I hired him, and he worked his fucking ass off.

Wow.

When you work for me, you know, it's 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

You don't have, if you miss one fucking phone call, you're gone.

Damn.

You got high standards.

If you don't fucking answer my call, and I call you anytime, my assistant, bye.

So Sunday at 2 a.m.

I mean, bro, any single time, like ever.

I've sent 10 kids I've had

work for me, I've sent home every single, like 10, 10 of them.

Wow.

So I had Brett, who was great.

Brett now works for Nelk.

I had Steiny, who now works for Nelk.

I just hired a new kid who's a bit with a month, who doesn't want to be disclosed, which I'll respect that,

his name, but he's doing it well.

But yeah, I run a very tight ship because I always look at like an older guy.

I'm 35 years old.

So like these young kids come in.

I want to teach them how to be better people and I want to teach them like, and I always say to them, like, you know, when you work for me,

you best fucking do everything you can that benefits me.

Yeah.

But don't look at it as you're working for Bob forever.

It's just look at it, you're coming in for a year and then you're use Bob to build your own world.

Interesting.

You know, that's the way I look at it.

That's how I tell these guys, like, you have an opportunity where I'm going to connect you with some of the most powerful people.

You're going to be around the room with the most powerful people, and you do everything I fucking say.

And, you know, but I give you full power to call me off on shit, to always state how you feel, you know, know, about any given time.

If I'm doing something,

but also you got to be careful because I have a personality too.

If you get too fucking, try and press me too much for it.

Like, if I'm like, yo, bro, I need an Adderall, give me an Adderall.

He's like, hey, Bob, I don't think you should do that right now.

I'm like, bro, give me a fucking Adderall.

So you don't let them talk back?

You know, it depends.

I mean, what month are we talking?

I mean, month fucking one, two, three, not really.

But like five, six, seven, you can, you can run your mouth a little bit if you earn your keep.

I'll listen to you.

There's a reason why you're in the room with me is

because you've earned your keep.

did you see steiny blowing up?

I actually met him when he was Steve's assistant and that was was that before you or after you after me after you okay

remember steini was nobody yeah, that's when I met him when he was kind of just starting out Yeah, so the way that happens he worked for me for a year and then what happens is you'll see a tendency of guys This is why I like the one-year plan for people at work

because you'll see These guys start to get inflated egos and get big heads, which is fine if you want to go put chains on and dance at a club with bottle service and all that stuff That's on you, right?

but i i just don't tolerate that around me and you're a direct flexion to me if you're working for me so what ends up happening is after these guys are working for you for a few months they started to think of the fucking man and you have to constantly remind them that you're not the fucking man and that you still have a lot of work to do and you execute a mission and not try and like flex because in my camp we don't flex if you want to go flex somewhere go another camp

you know so Steiny, after a year, me and him were kind of on the outs because, you know, he started to flex and he started to get this like, like, you know, inflated ego, which I was fine with having that.

But again, and he didn't listen much.

He was still the clubs and doing all this shit, which I didn't, you know.

And so finally, he went to, I dropped him off at Abu Dhabi, and we all went to Abu Dhabi.

When I set up Nelk and Dana, we dropped him off.

Two days in, I left.

Stani calls me and said, hey, look, man, I got an opportunity because I always told him to shoot me direct no matter what.

I said, you know, always shoot me direct.

He said, I got an opportunity to work with these guys.

I said, well, what do you want to do?

You want to work with them?

He said, I just feel there's more opportunity here for me.

I said, all right, I respect that.

I said, okay, you're good.

And that was it.

And I have the phone.

And then 30 minutes later went by.

Well, we had a screaming match, too.

So you don't want him to leave at first?

I didn't want him to leave.

I was just, I want things to be done right.

If you want to leave, you can leave.

You can leave.

Like I said, if you put in your time, you know, you can leave.

But do it the right way.

Do it old school, respectful.

Face to face.

Which he did, which he did.

He called me.

And what I really like about Steve Will Do It is why I love the respect of this was Steve called me

that day and said, hey, I want to hire Steiny, but I'm not going to do it without your blessing.

And that's all I care about.

And I was like, dude, done.

Wow.

All yours.

That's dope.

And then he went and worked for them.

But the respect was shown.

That's why I love Steve so much.

He's old school.

He's a fucking good guy.

And that's the way I try to operate my camp.

And anybody that comes to my camp, which is very small, which consists of literally like one to five people,

is, you know, we're low-key.

We're under the radar.

We're not flexing with chains.

We're not doing anything.

We're just getting our job done and, you know, trying to, that's it.

Do you keep it small because of trust issues or you just like it small?

I like it small

because I just like to stay low-key.

Really?

Yeah.

I like to stay low-key in a sense of like, I mean, I hang around people that, like, some of the shit I'm involved in and stuff like that requires complete trust and whatnot.

And so when you let your circle get bigger,

it can just kind of disrupt the way that others.

that you've worked so hard on your reputation in an immediate circle can be disrupted because if you let too many people in.

Interesting.

so you stay low-key but I stay very very low-key meaning I only have like one or two guys I fuck with in a sense of like that I bring with God you're not gonna see me roll like I came in here alone which is like

you know I got like 20 different businesses I'm doing right now that are like you know I could have a bunch of people around all that I just I don't I have my one right-hand guy that's a yeah you know I roll one guy you don't roll 10 20 deep like certain people I'm not I don't that I don't think there's a no I have one guy that's my right-hand guy that will get everything done whether it be folding clothes organizing my shit watching watching my back when it comes to if I'm in a room with like a chick or something like that, like and like just to you know, protect me and any of that stuff.

That's that's that's who I roll with is just one guy.

Yeah.

When you left Nelk podcast, is that when Bradley Martin became a co-host or was that before?

Yeah, I think that Kyle was faced with a

interesting thing because Bob left and Bob was an entertainer on that show that was very good at what he did and funny, I think, and made some great stuff.

And I think that he kind of got stuck him in the mud where it was like, all right,

we don't really have another guy that can replace bob in a sense so he had to figure out what to do and i think he got brad and brad's a great guy i love brad and i think that he does a great job at hosting and i think he'd be a great host for the podcast i liked him on that show dude i think brad's great i was surprised they asked him because he was crushing it in my well it's not they asked him either there was probably

once again there's always conflict

in with those guys for some reason in certain areas and there's always a little bickering once in a while and all that so I think that's what happened.

But I think that they resolved all that.

And

I think that, you know, Brad will because they just probably didn't want to pay him.

Yeah.

I'm assuming they were just like, hey, Brad, we're really building your brand.

We're not going to fucking pay you shit.

You want to come on our fucking show?

Great.

We're not going to offer you a contract to do anything.

You know what I mean?

It was more just like.

You want to come on and wear raw gear and fucking do all that shit.

It's going to be really, great, do that.

We're not going to fucking pay you.

And that probably set Brad off a little bit.

Again, not sure of the situation.

I can only worry about myself.

That's what my assumption would be.

Yeah.

And so then I think that probably Brad has his own show that's very successful, his own brand.

Went to focus on that, but then realizes at the end of the day, hey, I really do need Kyle and them because they built such a massive thing.

And so I still want to fuck with them.

And now that's where they are.

It's pretty interesting.

A lot of big shows actually have this falling out with the host.

If you look at Impulsive, it's happened three times.

And then if you look at, oh, there's this one other show with rappers, Joe Budden.

He got rid of his co-host.

You know why?

That's what?

Because you always want to control the money.

Whoever's controlling the money is the powerful guy.

So you always want to be the guy that controls the money.

I think it's ego, too.

Yeah, I mean, it's money.

I don't ever see anybody leaving a show for like, oh, like, other than money.

Right?

Yeah, at the end of the day, you're right.

It's money.

It's money.

So it's about, you know, if you can control the money, and then it's hard.

Kyle has a tough job.

I mean, Kyle is, you know, what I try to do was not, what Kyle does, I try to do.

I just couldn't do it, was really build a really solid infrastructure around me.

I think that's where the Shahidis came into play and really helped him

build infrastructure and take him to another level.

And I like John John and Sammy.

I think they're really smart for a much ball busting I do for them.

They're really smart guys.

But it's hard to manage like a bunch of talent.

It's really fucking hard.

Yeah, they manage.

You got to keep a lot of people happy, whether it be the guys cutting the clips, whether it be whatever.

It's a tough job.

And so Kyle doesn't like to be disrespected.

And that's why our deal was a year and a half that it took to

get figured out because we both did have big egos.

We were both kind of right in a sense.

We were both wrong in a sense.

And so that's what took time to fucking play out.

I can't wait to see you guys together, man.

You guys were one of the best shows back in the the prime.

Yeah, we'll see you back.

We'll see you back.

I just talked to Key Glock's people.

I want to get some rap music.

Yeah, what's going on with that?

I mean,

I love rap music.

I love rap.

So Key Glock's one of my, you know, Dirk.

I love Dirk.

I love Key Glock.

And so I listen to that music a lot.

So anytime I'm a real big fan of somebody,

I fucking want to get you on the show.

And then even if Kyle's like, oh, it's not that relevant.

This guy's more important than this fucking TikToker or something like that.

I'm like, yeah, but it'll just blend better.

And trust me.

And he knows that.

But we're right now, like, me and Kyle's deal is basically nothing like we don't have a deal it's not six episodes like you said I mean it's six episodes but also I don't give a fuck I just did that more of like because he initially wanted to do one episode just to caveat back on the point I'm like Kyle I fucking built this thing I'm eating these legal fees I have you dead in the mud when it comes to our lawsuit the reason why you're gonna beat me is because you're gonna counter sue me for defamation which I'm gonna lose because I would have lost the countersuit you lost for defamation of course because I went on the internet and was like fuck you suck my dick fuck them and all that so I would have lost so what ended up happening is I would have won our original claim right and then they would have counter counter-sued me, and I probably would have maybe lost more.

And it would have taken years and it would have taken years, and it would have just been stressed and this relationship fucking problem and all that stuff.

But in my initial claim, I would have won.

Wow.

Which my initial claim was, we want to be paid for advertisements 30% that we're running on this show.

Whether that be Happy Dad or whatever it was, a cell phone product, we still want our fucking money.

That was a commercialized ad and whatever.

Wasn't that the million you made, though?

No.

So when Kyle says I made 1.2 million, I'm violating an NDA right now, probably, by the way.

I don't give a fuck.

The $1.2 million that I made was not from the podcast that was a that was a misconception and misspoken on his end it was uh included in the meta card as well oh the nft so i had a piece of their meta card as well so oh it wasn't from the podcast then at all there was i i i think it was like if i had to guess the exact numbers i'd have to talk to my accountant and all that but i'd say roughly we made just under a million dollars the podcast okay and which we should have though i mean sounds like a big number when you have a successful show money's made yeah right sponsors are paying price but i'll tell you what they made they made a lot a lot more yeah it's like all right hey i'm getting 30 of this ad revenue but now stake comes in.

I don't even know the day.

Is the stake deal the podcast or is it overall social?

That's where they try to get tricky with me,

which which is fine.

But I was like, guys, I don't know what's going on.

There was no transparency.

And

that's basically that.

So basically, think about it like this, right?

You sign a fuck.

I own 30% of this fucking.

Hi, we're putting this fucking ad for tequila fucking on the show, right?

I have 30% of whatever this company pays for this, right?

Well, the problem is, though, they can easily say, well, this deal with this isn't just the podcast.

It's our whole entire thing.

So we kind of fucking can control what money we pay you.

Because now I don't know what the fuck they're paying for the podcast with this advertisement because now it's baked in this overall deal.

Yeah.

So that was the hard part too to also distinguish.

Oh, so they wanted you to post on like your IG and stuff?

No, they never asked me to do any of that shit.

They suggested it and pushed me to do it, but they never were forceful with that.

They were good, respectful about that.

Got it.

They didn't give a fuck about that.

But the Medicar we made, I'd say.

That was a big launch, man.

I think it was a big launch, and I think so far it was a huge fail.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, well.

Didn't it make like 20 mil?

Great.

What about the people that bought it?

And I love these guys.

I think they're, and I'm not saying this.

I think that they made $30 million and whatever it was.

And then you're getting 10% of the resale and all that.

I had 1.5% of the project, I think, or a little less.

Yeah.

Like nothing.

And I just think that NFTs are tough.

It was a huge phase that happened.

99% of them failed.

I just think that they

could have done, I don't know, it's hard for me to speak on.

I don't want to speak on it because I think they could have done a little bit more, and I think they still are doing more

for it.

And there's no time expiration on it, which benefits them and benefits, you know.

What was the original intention of it, though?

I think they originally promised that they're going to open casinos and lounges and cigar lounges and all this stuff around it.

But I know they have the SoFi Stadium thing that we invite some metacard holders for.

I did my job.

I mean, I remember going gung-ho for the Medicard.

I bought one.

uh what's what's how how long did you flip it in i still have it i haven't checked what did check what the floor price is did it drop i think it's down like 95 oh well all my nfts are but i could be wrong again don't quote me on that i don't know but i know i know so far it's been uh it's been a it's not been a miss because i do believe in kyle long term i believe in their whatever but i just think they need to pay a little more attention on uh improving

the you know there's a lot of money that was made for those guys in that area so i just think that and i think they're going to do that i had a good conversation with kyle about it it the other day.

Nice.

I mean, they have so many businesses.

I mean, Happy Dad's got to be worth nine figures at this point.

And they got the podcast.

They got the YouTube.

They're going to exit for a lot of money.

They got the supplements.

They got the Fulson supplements, which is, eh.

The Happy Dad's the big one.

Yeah.

Happy Dad's everywhere.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that that keeps Steve you know, Steve and them are very in business together, but I think what really

holds all them together in a real way is they're all really gung-ho in the Happy Dad, and they're doing a great job with that.

I'm not involved in it at all so i can't speak on that but i think that they're i mean i i do believe that they're doing a great job with happy dead love it dude it's been a blast getting uh getting to know your side of things man anything you want to close off with or promote no nothing monkey tilt sure is it launching soon launching soon yeah but we got to figure some things out as far as how i want to launch it on my end let people can play people can actively play in it um you know outside the u.s there's restrictions so pay attention make sure you read all the guidelines and all that but we have a fully functioning casino that we're going to look to make improvements on the daily and make it so U.S.

residents can hopefully eventually play.

I don't see it being immediate, but I think we're going to hyper-focus outside the country for a while.

All right, thanks for coming on, man.

Love it.

Yeah, thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.

See you, man.