Testosterone Levels, Dangers of Cannabis and Worst Foods for Men | Layne Kilpatrick #235

This is shocking.

In 1997, 27% of African-American girls and 7% of white girls were showing breast development and/or pubic hair at age 7.

Super young.

That's young.

So, the question is: what's going on?

Yeah.

What is going on, and how can this continue?

People say, well, it's diet, we're fatter, right?

We're eating more poorly.

Another is environmental toxins and impacts.

Nobody has an answer.

Nobody has a definite answer.

These things are hard to test.

Welcome back to the show, guys.

I'm your host, as always, Sean Kelly.

Got a great guest for you guys today, Lane Kilpatrick.

How's it going, Lane?

Good.

Sean, good, dude.

Good to be with you here.

Thanks for the invitation.

Yeah, absolutely.

So you're a pharmacist, right?

I'm a pharmacist, yeah, with a focus and a clinical specialty in hormone therapy and

all issues surrounding that.

Yeah, it seems to be rampant these days.

Oh, my gosh.

There's really alarming data out there right now, and I don't know that enough people are aware of it, but it comes from a study back in 2017 by Shauna Swan, PhD.

She did a study that she called temporal trends in sperm counts.

Temporal meaning over time.

So over a significant period of time.

And it revealed a 50% drop in fertility.

Well, let me just do some of of these statistics here.

In 1973, the average man had a sperm concentration of 99 million per ml.

By 2011, 47.1 million.

Back in the 40s, 60 mls, or 60 million per ml was considered

good fertile level.

This is by the World Health Organization.

And then they decreased it.

to 40,

then to 20, and then now they say 15 is sort of, of, and I'm not sure why they're sort of dumbing this down, but

that's what they're saying now.

There's been a lot of change over the last 50 years.

So from 2003 to 2013,

students in Boston were sampled

for their qualification as a sperm donor.

In 2003, 69% qualified.

In 2013, 44%

qualified.

In China,

they qualified 56% in 2001.

In 2015, 18%.

Wow.

So this means they have fallen below what sperm banks are very good sources of information.

They're like life insurance companies.

They're going to make sure that their client gets what they came for, and that is to get pregnant, conceive, have a healthy pregnancy, and take it to term.

So they're pretty good judges of what constitutes good sperm.

They're rejecting a lot.

82% they're rejecting in China.

Yeah, that's a lot.

The use of assisted reproductive technology is up, is doubled from 1997 to 2012.

That's IVF or where they inject the sperm

into the egg because it has poor motility, can't get to the destination.

Testosterone levels have been declining by 1%

since 1982.

1% a year?

1% a year.

Jeez.

Yeah.

Which,

yeah, you know something about that.

26% of men now presenting with ED are under 40.

And I see this all the time in my office.

Younger and younger men, and these are fit guys

that you'd look at and you'd go,

really?

Yeah.

In the U.S., we have what

We're below what is considered necessary to replace our own population by 16%.

That was effective 2017.

This is data from 2017.

Yeah, so it might be worse.

Oh, yeah, it might be worse.

And that's shocking.

And it's worse in other countries.

In several other countries, it's much worse than that.

From 1990 to 2011, the risk of miscarriage increased by 1% per year.

Geez.

In pregnant women in the U.S.

And then here's another one that's just...

This is shocking.

In 1997, 27% of African American girls and 7% of white girls were showing breast development and or pubic hair at age seven.

That is super young.

That's young.

And that earlier beginning of puberty is linked to increased breast cancer, increased uterine cancer.

So the question is, what's going on?

Yeah.

What is going on?

And how can this continue?

I'd love to hear your perspective.

Well, let's get into it.

I mean, there are a couple of theories out there, leading theories in my mind.

One is people say, well, it's diet.

We're fatter.

We're eating more poorly.

Seed oils.

When you have excess fat, that produces more estrogen.

Estrogen inhibits testosterone production and therefore fertility.

So there's one theory.

Another is environmental.

toxins and impacts.

That's kind of the one that I tend to

think is a little more relevant.

Because

I mean if you look at you look at the use of plastics over the years in that time period, back into the 50s even when it first started, and these numbers have paralleled that.

We know that there are all kinds of things out there that we're consuming and

nobody has an answer.

Nobody has a definite answer.

These things are hard to test.

I mean,

in fact,

it's kind of unethical

to give, like pregnant women, something that could harm their fetus.

Plastic, yeah.

Yeah.

So it's difficult to test, but I really feel like

that's what's going on here.

And the question is, that's huge.

That's mammoth.

How do you fix that?

Yeah, plastic is everywhere.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Think about it.

I mean,

we can't go.

10 or 15 minutes in a day without having some contact with plastic.

And plastics are just one thing.

So cleaning that up, and because you can't do anything about the great big global picture, really all you can do is

take care of yourself.

So

what gets into your body, and it turns out we can do a significant amount of cleanup just by, number one, filtering water, because a lot of these things come through drinking water.

And two, filtering the air.

Surprising amount of these toxins and these endocrine disruptors, hormone disruptors, we breathe in.

We inhale them.

In our homes.

In our cars.

Wait, how does it get in the air?

Dust.

One of the main sources is actually from clothing, textiles.

These things that are made up of plastics,

put them in the dryer, look at your dryer vent.

Those little particles, they get in the air.

But yeah, they're blowing around all over the place.

And

there's been some pretty good studies on that.

So you'd recommend to dry your clothes manually, like outside?

I think that would be better, probably.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And wherever possible,

go to natural fabrics, natural things like cotton and hemp.

So, cotton is good?

Cotton's good.

So, what's the ingredient in shirts that isn't good?

So,

the

polyester

type thing, spandex.

Jerseys.

Yeah.

Well, and I'm guilty today myself.

Yeah.

But if you think about it, these things don't disappear.

When you throw them away, plastics don't disappear.

They're designed to not degrade.

Right.

And so then what they do is they break down and they get smaller and smaller, and then we get these microplastics that people,

there's a lot of people talking about that these days, too.

They just recently found them in the human heart.

I saw that.

Did you see that?

Crazy.

Oh, that really alarms me.

Yeah.

How did that get there?

That makes no sense.

But the size that they're talking about, that's visible to the human eye.

I don't know how it even got there.

But

they're just everywhere.

So

that's kind of the situation that

we're dealing with.

So for the testosterone levels, do you really think it's from diet mainly?

Just the shift?

I don't.

I think it's, well, you know what?

There's a lot of different factors in this equation.

There's no question about it.

All these things contribute your diet, exercise, what you take into your body,

stress, even,

what they call

perceived stress, which is different than actual stress.

What is a perceived stress?

Perceived stress is

you think something is stressful when it only is because you think it is.

Stressors, like a disease is a stressor to the body.

And what it does is it raises cortisol.

Elevated cortisol levels all the time are not healthy and they're not good for testosterone levels.

So we think the testosterone or the sperm count,

which turn out to be a really, actually an accurate measure of general health.

In fact, it's a good biomarker.

I believe it ought to be,

every guy ought to have a sperm analysis.

Because we know that if they,

if the motility is off, the concentration, there's not enough of them, they're malformed, they can't swim, for whatever reason, they're not getting there.

The things that cause those things

also impact general health.

Right, so that's a sign of you being unhealthy if your sperm isn't healthy.

Yeah, yeah.

So everybody ought to know, and it doesn't doesn't get any better, really, with age.

Right.

So this is another reason the young guy ought to, he ought to know what that's like.

And then you can actually bank those

for

a future time if you know that about them.

Right.

There's a few types of food I've seen you speak against.

One of them was soy.

You're not a fan of men eating soy, right?

I'm not a fan of men or women eating soy.

And I need to be clear about what the reason is.

I don't think it's necessarily harmful because you have to understand that soy is very estrogenic, meaning it looks like an estrogen molecule, enough like it that it will bind to the receptor and therefore block it, block its access

to real estrogen, estradiol.

And so

can it have positive effects?

Yeah, it can.

But do you really want it blocking your natural estrogen from that same site?

Are you ready to say, okay, go ahead and take its place?

It's going to differ from batch to batch.

You don't know how much you're getting.

That's my issue with soy.

And the same thing goes with the other real estrogenic food, and that's flaxseed.

Flax seed, yeah, I was going to say that next.

Yeah.

That's one that I have sat and puzzled with practitioners when they've got, they'll have a patient that's levels look good on estrogen, but she's just not getting a response, still having symptoms that it's low.

And turns out, well, she's adding flaxseed to her smoothie in the morning,

which does not have the same intensity or the same affinity for that receptor.

So it's going to have a different response.

I'm not saying it's altogether bad, but it's why would you want to replace the pure thing with that when there are other ways to get omega-3s or whatever it is you're taking that for, or protein, in the case of soy.

So that's,

I, I get misunderstood on that a lot.

Yeah, I saw the comments on that one.

Oh my gosh, the soy boys get all up in them.

The most controversial one I think you spoke about, though, is cannabis.

Yeah?

Because a lot of guys smoke cannabis, but you weren't a fan of that, right?

Well, it's funny.

The studies out there are mixed on what it does to testosterone.

Some say it has no effects, some say it increases, some say it decreases significantly, but there doesn't seem to be too much debate about its effect on sperm, and it is not good.

But interestingly, it's just the combustion material.

It's just smoked.

It's not.

Oh, so it's not the cannabis part, the edible.

It's the smoking part.

Right.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So smoke is that what the sperm cells then?

That's what they, there's studies that have identified that when that's the route of ingestion, yeah.

So

that would apply to cigarettes too, then.

Yeah, it would.

But, you know, specifically the cannabis, I mean, I don't think there's any good, healthy way to ingest tobacco.

Right.

You know, chew or whatever.

But cannabis is a different, it's a different animal.

I recommend CBD all the time.

CBD.

Very effective.

And it has some THC in it.

So I'm not opposed to it.

But smoking it is probably not good for your boys.

Yeah.

I've also seen you talk about atrazine.

Atrazine.

And you want people to avoid it as much as they can, right?

Well, yeah.

And

truth is, you can't.

You cannot avoid it.

Atrazine is a broadleaf herbicide that is used commercially, mostly in the Corn Belt and the Midwest.

And if you see a map where the concentrations are highest in groundwater, it's just concentrated right through the center of the U.S.

Groundwater.

Yeah.

And that's the problem with it.

Atrazine actually decomposes pretty quickly in soil.

Yeah.

Two

two weeks, two or three weeks to four months maybe from the microorganisms in the soil.

But once it gets into groundwater, it's not soluble there.

And

that's an anaerobic environment.

There's not oxygen.

There's not oxygen to help degrade it.

And so it lasts a long time.

And that's people's concern with it, is they're finding it everywhere.

Wow.

It's atrazine in groundwater.

But once it gets there, it's spreading everywhere.

So what does it do to your body?

Well, atrazine is a hormone disruptor.

It's an estrogen.

It's estrogenic.

Got it.

And so it can affect

people developmentally,

development of a fetus.

And those reproductive effects are what we're most concerned about.

Somebody's got to have an answer for this.

We can't keep losing 1%

infertility and testosterone levels.

Pretty soon we're at,

we can't sustain, we can't reproduce.

That's scary.

It is.

Wow.

I mean

sperm is a

sperm is an interesting thing.

You'd think it's available in abundance, you know, and guys guys have this

image and concept of themselves that,

hey,

I can perform,

I'm good.

Yeah.

Well,

not necessarily.

When somebody examines it and analyzes it and

those parameters are off, then you got some problems.

And often they don't find that out until they go to have a child.

Yeah.

And then it's a,

well, okay, your options are a little more limited now.

Yeah.

We got to ask Elon Musk what he's doing right?

He's got 11 kids.

Right?

And smart kids, probably.

Yeah.

So what are some other hormone disruptors, or is that the main one, atrazine?

Well, atrazine is one.

It's the second most abundant herbicide besides glyphosate.

Glyphosate

hasn't got real strong data as a hormone disruptor, but it's another one that, oh my gosh, it's got its own set of problems.

But

so

there are other hormone disruptors that are that are all around us, like when I said in the air and in the water.

Some of them are what we call xenoestrogens.

Those are just things like

you've probably heard of BP, BPA

that are in plastic bottles.

Anything BP, BPS, BPF.

They tried to make something better

and didn't.

Didn't quite work out.

Put a band-aid on them.

Yeah, right.

Still damaging.

But so there's that.

There's what they call PFAS, PFAS.

Those are, they're also called forever chemicals because they just hang around.

Right.

And they're just, they're hard to eliminate.

Those are hormone disruptors.

They're in anything that people are trying to waterproof.

Waterproof.

So.

So phones.

The phone?

Yeah.

Waterproof your phone.

Didn't Apple say the phones are like waterproof or something?

Are they?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I've still got a plastic cover on mine.

So there's PFAs in it.

There is, there are.

Yeah.

But those are, yeah, so also fire retardant that you used to find on furniture.

Fire.

Oh, okay.

But, you know, the other thing that's concerning is the U.S.

is incredibly slow and lax at

enforcing or even having laws and rules that protect people, from the consumer protection people.

These things have been banned in Europe, like since 2004.

U.S.

even entered into what they call a Stockholm Convention for

persistent organic pollutants, they call them.

Enforceable in international law.

Yeah.

But we never ratified it in the U.S.

So

it's a big fight, it's a big gamble against a lot of money.

Yeah.

And I don't know how you win those fights sometimes.

So it comes down to

you've got to take care of yourself.

Government's not going to do it.

Hell no.

No,

you can't depend on what they say is safe and what isn't.

Yeah.

They've changed so many times on a number of these things.

I mean, gosh, just look at

we won't get into that.

No, we'll get banned and we'll talk about that.

But it's, they seem to, Afterzine is an interesting case there.

They've said for years, just various, like every few years, they would issue another statement.

It's safe.

There's no reason to think it is unsafe.

Well, then, just in 2016, they finally issued something that said

it's pretty clear that it's affecting all aquatic species

in the environment.

And so that

extends into birds, it goes to mammals, and it's all connected.

It goes everywhere.

Oh, it is.

Yeah, and there are endocrine functions, you know, problems with that.

So, where does this, you know, there's a special, gosh,

real concern with this in people's lives, but in particular, pregnant women.

There's a window of time from about six, seven weeks or so to ten weeks or so.

We don't know exactly when it is, but when differentiation of the genitalia is taking place, where you've got an XY male,

the gender and the sex is determined.

It's the same up to a certain point.

And then there's a release of DHD, dihydrotestosterone, that then sends it down the path of becoming a phenotypic male,

has all the equipment of a man, of a male.

If that gets blocked at any point, it doesn't have to be completely blocked, just partially blocked, then you get effects on that fetus that will survive him and pass on to his offspring and grandchildren, and it gets worse.

Whoa.

Epigenetic changes, they call them.

That's crazy.

But we also see, you know,

the underdevelopment of

there's an increase in what they call micro,

which is

scientifically defined.

It's

two standard deviations from average, which is average is 5.3 inches stretched.

Micro

would then be about 3.2.

Stretched.

Stretched.

These are.

These are some of the, or it can just develop wrong.

It can have the opening of the urethra on the underside underside of it.

Defects that all take place because something was sitting on that testosterone receptor at the absolute wrong time.

Crazy.

Couldn't have been a worse time.

And that's not reversible.

Affects their fertility.

So

if there's an emphasis that I could make, it would be pregnant women,

you have got to be vigilant.

Very careful.

Yes, during that first trimester, when things can be done that can't be undone.

So

that's critical.

And we know that's, these are phthalates.

This is research is from phthalates.

And that's another big hormone disruptor.

You ask what some of the others are.

Phthalates, parabens, things that are in most, things that are scented artificially.

I walk through the restroom in our office.

Yeah.

It's a common restroom for all of these offices.

And I'm always shutting off the

gas.

The wall plugs.

Yeah, the gasser.

The other thing that, you know, you're standing there doing your duty and you hear this.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

gas in you, man.

Man, every casino has some sort of scent to it.

Oh, yeah, those are probably parabens.

They are, they're disgusting, and so there's no

question about those either.

So, they're just out there.

Her study was in 2017, and it was all over the press.

Cover of Newsweek, cover of Time,

New York Times, all over.

But do you hear about it much anymore?

No, no, not really.

Did it go away?

No,

yeah, so

we ought to do something about this.

And we just, the only thing we can do, really, Sean, is you got to protect yourself.

And so your own little microenvironment that you have control over.

I don't like sounding like a doomsday guy.

Oh, gosh.

You know, the world's coming to an end.

No.

This is a beautiful world.

There's a God in charge.

He's going to win.

We're not going to be by this and wiped out as a species.

But we are stewards over.

over what we have and we need to take care of ourselves and our own.

Our children rely on us for this.

So when you go through your house,

we develop this tool.

It's called Hormone Disruptors, My Exposure Score.

Take you through your house, help you identify in the kitchen, bathroom, just the living room and house cleaning in general,

all these areas, and identify where you're getting exposed.

Yeah.

And what your level is.

Give you a letter grade and a quantitative score.

Wow.

And then

what to do about it.

Man, this is so eye-opening.

And I'm planning on having kids soon, so this is just scary almost.

Yes, I have to lock her in a room almost so she avoids all this.

Right?

Have you ever had a sperm analysis?

No.

How do you get one?

So

there are several online now.

You can go into what they call an andrology clinic.

You can look that up, just Google it, and there may be one, or there may not be one in your town, but

there's just some good online options.

One of them is givelegacy.com that I like.

And they also will present you with options like, hey,

this is how your report came back.

It wasn't good.

Do you want to freeze some?

And then when they freeze it, then they also wash out and clean out all the non-performers, the guys that can't swim straight, go around in a circle.

And then you have a much higher likelihood than of that sperm actually.

Wow, that's impressive that they can do that.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

And it used to be really cost prohibitive.

Yeah.

Not so much anymore.

Yeah, I got to look into that.

Yeah.

Most people don't even even know if their sperm's healthy, so that's good advice for just anyone watching.

Yep, I think so.

It's not something we generally think about.

Most guys don't think about infertility.

It usually gets blamed on the woman.

Yeah.

But let me tell you,

when you're, the time to think about your healthy contribution as a male and the sperm is not the night that you're conceiving.

It's about seven or eight weeks prior to that.

Oh, yeah.

Because that's how long it takes that sperm to mature.

Wow.

And to reach the point, I mean, we make two or 300 million of these a day,

but only about half of them survive

to mature sperm.

But that's the kind of thing you need to think about.

And so that means seven or eight weeks before, no binge drinking,

no heavy caffeine use, heavy.

Moderate's okay,

as is moderate.

Moderate alcohol intake, actually.

So caffeine?

Caffeine in high concentrations is toxic.

Yeah.

It's toxic to sperm.

You don't want to be,

you know, you don't want to be a slob.

Because if your hormone levels are out of balance, the testes are dependent on a certain concentration of

testosterone within the testicle, not just circulating.

And if that gets impaired, then you're in trouble.

But it's a long time ago.

It's not when you think it is.

And most guys don't think about their contribution.

Most miscarriages actually are the result of DNA fragmentation

from the sperm.

Dang, that's never talked about.

No.

We just assume it's something with the girl usually.

Exactly.

And these poor women have, you know,

taken respons or blame for it for all this this time.

But, you know, it's a problem.

Scary.

Is it true soap and laundry detergent are really bad for you?

Some are.

If they have what we call alkyl phenols in them or triclosan, those are ingredients to watch for.

A couple of examples of alkyl

phenols are

nonylphenol and octylphenol.

Yeah.

And

those you can see because they have to be on the label.

But here's the thing, Sean.

You don't have to remember that.

There are really good apps nowadays.

One of them's Yuka.

There's one by EWG, Environmental Working Group, that's called Healthy Living, that you can scan product.

Take it with you to the store.

Oh, nice.

Scan the product.

I love that.

Look at the ingredients, and it'll tell you if there's hormone disruptors in there.

You don't have to remember what they are.

If they're there, then avoid it.

There are plenty of other choices now.

Yeah.

So just do it.

And you'll find out it's not as hard as you might think it is, and it's not as disruptive to your life.

So that's what you got to do.

Yeah.

You got to take that responsibility.

The days are gone when you can just trust.

It's trust but verify.

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah, now I can't even microwave plastic leftovers.

Scared of doing that.

Yeah, that's right.

You don't want to do that.

So that's one of the things.

So when you go through your kitchen, it's are you filtering your water?

That's the first thing.

And with a, it has to have a carbon filter, and it needs to be either reverse osmosis or distillation.

Okay.

Are you filtering your air?

Again, have a carbon filter in there.

That's what will filter out those hormone disruptors.

Carbon filter.

You see a, oh, go ahead.

Well, just a couple of other things are what your cookware like.

If you got Teflon or some coating on there that's flaking off, which a lot of us do,

dump that thing right now.

Get rid of it.

Oh, if it's like burnt?

Those are PFOS.

Those are forever chemicals.

Have you seen that where the non-stick coating is flaking off or wearing off?

Where do you think that goes?

In your body.

Right down the hatch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there's that.

And then, you know, what containers that you store food and drink in.

Yeah.

So you do glass.

Glass is my preference.

But I do also silicone.

Silicone.

Silicone's okay.

Okay.

They have these reusable bags that are fine.

What about Ziplocs?

Plastic bags?

No.

I've got to stop you.

They have Ziploc Teflon ones.

Okay.

Or sorry, excuse me.

Ziploc silicone ones.

Yeah, I know.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, I got to switch those.

Yeah, I'm going to get the assessment.

Are we allowed to film it, make a video out of it?

Yeah.

Cool.

Sure.

Yeah, we should do that.

I mean, yeah.

We have a private Facebook group for those people that have bought that tool, and the interaction in there is interesting.

Nice.

It's nice to be able to share.

People are really excited when they find something.

Okay, this is good.

But I'll tell you, there's never been a better time to clean this up because I love seeing these little grassroots

small businesses emerge that are selling clean stuff.

Yeah.

And they're doing well.

They're making a living at it.

Love it.

Yes.

I really love seeing that.

Because now there's a trend about being healthy and people are waking up slowly, right?

Yep.

And also in the kitchen, I would say organic food.

You've got to buy clean, clean food.

And I realize that the organic label is not

perfect,

but it's better than probably anything else we have.

So

it's not going to have

most of those pesticides and things on it.

When you say not perfect, what do you mean?

Well,

recently I did a reel on this coating they call Appeal.

It was developed by a company that Bill Gates seeded early on.

But their idea is to coat vegetables and fruit with

this coating that keeps air out, keeps oxygen out, so it preserves it longer.

But it's supposed to be edible.

You can eat this.

And yet, when you see what they use to make it,

that doesn't qualify organic.

It does not.

Somehow

it got through.

And

it really suffered.

The organic label kind of suffered in its integrity.

Wow.

Things like that.

So not perfect, but maybe better than what we have.

Yeah.

Wait, so how can we know which vegetables and fruits have that layer on it?

You have to ask.

Oh, you have to ask?

You have to ask the produce staff.

Seriously?

Because they don't have to even label.

A lot of them do.

A lot of them will have a little label that says appeal

on it.

But oftentimes it's just labeled on the box that the produce comes in, which they don't put out.

No.

Of course.

So you do have to ask.

Wow.

It's such an extra step, and it's kind of hard to find people at the grocery store sometimes.

Exactly.

Lane, anything you want to close off with?

Just I can't emphasize enough that

you have got to take charge of

your consuming choices.

The decisions and the choices that you make as a consumer will drive the market.

They will determine

what gets out there.

If you don't buy it, they won't make it.

So as more people become aware and look into their reproductive health, especially males, I'm seeing so many young men now.

It's just, it's alarming and kind of disturbing to me, actually.

There are options out there to correct that.

This is one of the approaches to it,

but there are several.

And if we have to supplement, we can.

There are prescription options,

but that's not always the go-to, because when you give testosterone supplemented,

you make less of it.

So your own production will slow down, and that includes sperm production.

Wow.

So it is not always the answer.

In fact, that's,

you asked me me once about some of these myths that are out there.

That's probably the biggest one that I see.

Yeah.

Is that your testosterone is low, so we need to give you some.

Not necessarily.

Yeah.

Because we give you some, and then you can't have kids, you're not going to be very happy with me.

So I think that's a pretty big deal.

Wow.

So what are, before we close off, what are some ways to raise testosterone naturally then rather than injecting?

Well,

so the lifestyle things,

to be, you don't want to be overweight.

You don't want to be underweight.

A good BMI between 20 and 24 or so.

Good body fat percentage for men

16, 15, 16.

For women, it's about six points higher.

You want to have a good clean diet.

As I mentioned before,

not too excessive of an alcohol intake.

They say one unit a day is fine, unit being a can of beer or a glass of wine.

Smoking, absolutely no.

None.

Vaping, out.

Don't do it.

Your sperm is a really good indicator of how you're doing.

And these days, sperm are not doing well by any account.

So it's a bit of a wake-up call.

Wow.

So if there's one message you have, it's increase your sperm counts, guys.

Increase your sperm count.

All right.

Well, thanks for watching, guys.

Super informative episode.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thank you.

And I'll see you guys next time.