Cue Banks On Making Millions with Forex, Most He's Made in a Day & Having 31 Siblings | DSH #220

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On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, Cue Banks talks about growing up with humble beginnings, how he's made tens of millions from forex and how he coaches 15,000 students how to trade right now.

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Have any really bad days where you were kind of questioning, are you making the right choice?

Never.

Never.

No.

You have to losses.

But this way, the money that I do lose, I could have made.

You know what I'm saying?

Or the money that I lost, I could have made.

And I understand that concept.

And that concept alone, like people,

people tend to just think

very, very surface level to losing, period.

Welcome back to the show, guys.

I'm your host, as always, Sean Kelly.

We're here on the Digital Social Hour.

I got with me today a Forex expert for you guys today, Q Banks.

What's going on, man?

How's it going, man?

Lovely, lovely.

So we've never had a Forex guy on.

I'm pretty excited.

And you're one of the top in your space, man.

Yeah, man.

You know, I try to, you know, make a statement

and try to lead the way.

Yeah, Forex is that space where people come in and out, but you're like the one guy that I've seen for years.

Yeah, I mean, I've been inside of space for the past like nine years.

Damn.

Since late 2014, and then just been inside of space ever, ever since, honestly.

Yeah.

Nine years, I mean, was every year profitable for you?

For the most part, I feel like I leveled up in some kind of way every single year.

Even like, you know, like my first year,

you know, I lost like maybe like $7,000 like my first year, but I learned a lot.

And then I started actually growing a lot like around 2016-ish.

Was that your second year?

Like, going on to the third year.

But yeah, like it was, it was very, very difficult knowing that there was so much going on as far as like...

learning curve and that kind of thing.

Yeah.

But for the most part, like, I mean, it was every single year actually, I grew in some kind of way.

It could have been financially, mentally, something, you know.

Yeah.

So most people watching this probably aren't into Forex or trade it.

How tough was that learning curve at first?

Like,

so

put it this way, it's a ton of knowledge, and I feel like people definitely complicate it a lot more than needs to be.

Yeah.

But I mean, like, the first, like, maybe like four or five months, like, I made, like, my first thousand dollars a day.

Okay.

But that's me literally studying every single day of the entire week.

So I was very, very fully, fully invested in like the craft itself.

You were full time.

Full time, yeah.

And yeah, like I think like I actually passed my learning curve a lot faster than a lot of people because I feel like I'm very, very good at patterns and pattern recognition and that kind of stuff.

So it kind of came very, very simple compared to a lot of people because that's kind of like their side hustle.

Right.

That was like my main hustle at the time.

And when you say studying, you're literally just looking at charts all day?

No, so like whenever I say studying, I mean

back testing, you know,

going over past data and everything to kind of like see how your your technical analysis lines up in some kind of way and actually make sense of like what move that you could have caught if you did something better.

And then, you know, the kind of just training your mind and your eyes to see things that aren't there.

And so whenever it comes up, you pretty much understand how to actually go about it to actually catch that certain move.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So you're able to look at back data from years past, see some patterns, and then test them out in the current market.

Technical analysis, you know, just analyzing past data to help you analyze what the future is going to be doing for a certain area.

Yeah.

Now, where should people learn this stuff?

Because there's so much information.

A lot of it's kind of weird, right?

Like, so, um, you know, they have like the free programs and YouTube and that kind of stuff, but you know, like those things can't teach you a trading style.

You know, like you could obviously go on YouTube, which is, of course, it's free, but it's literally a super disorganized encyclopedia of stuff.

And then you have babypips.com, which is another free program, but it teaches you like definition as to like what everything means.

And then you have like like my program, which is Wall Street Academy.

That's where I teach like my actual style of how to go about like the certain workflow to actually make a person understand like my trading style how to go about it like as far as like using time correlation how to actually use certain tools in a certain kind of way at a certain time to then benefit for a certain setup right but um yeah like i mean there's a lot of free things but those free things don't really teach you what you need to do to actually become profitable they teach you like like what is this and what is that right not teach you the method exactly but not how to go about it like the workflow of using all those tools at one time i feel that what about these signals chats where people you pay to get in and then they tell you when to buy and sell you like those um i mean i mean i don't use anything really um nor do i do them um i feel like it definitely it hinders a lot of people um i feel like it makes a person that wants to make money inside of markets make some some kind of money but it can't make them to the point that they're depending on just that their entire life yeah you know so i feel like it handicaps a person in some kind of way because it makes them never want to learn makes them never ever want to go through all the hardships that need need to be done to actually get to that next point in trading or investing overall.

But I mean, it's cool for what it is, but for a long-term trader or long-term investor, it's not like a thing that you could actually count on.

Yeah.

Either you're not actually learning anything.

Correct, correct, correct.

Yeah.

What about these prop firms?

I just saw one got in trouble.

I forget that.

My forex funds, I think.

Correct, correct, correct, correct.

What do you think of that model?

I mean, I have like my own prop for most of top-tier trader.

Yeah.

But I think with the My Forex funds, like they were just out of line with a lot of things.

Like I read the article and that kind of stuff.

And it was a lot of shadiness.

I feel like it was due to a lot of greed.

And for the main fact that

they weren't satisfied with the kind of money that they were making, they pretty much started to actually do things to make traders lose even more, to make them more, a lot more money.

They even had like, I think, a $300 million lawsuit overall.

I saw that.

That alone was insane.

But the fact that you could actually manipulate the market to the point that it causes traders to actually lose their their challenges a lot more and people still voted them as number one is crazy to me but they were number one on the list and people vote to for that list like i mean yeah like i mean like you know the ratings and the reviews and that kind of stuff and they were still like you know like the long style i think they've been out since like probably 2013 or some kind of like a long a long ass time but the fact that um you know they they burned so much people over time knowing that they were taking advantage of being that big dog yeah you know so i i think it's just very very unfortunate for the most part And I feel like, you know, that's a cause of greed.

Yeah, that's actually definitely.

Why do you think the forex space in general kind of has a negative stigma?

Because people assume it's a scam and stuff.

Yeah, I mean, it's due to like, you know, a lot of MLMs and that kind of stuff also.

You know, like MLMs, they come around and actually tear up a space.

Like they literally destroy any space that they

come across.

Yeah.

And I think it's the main fact that they

treated it like just a sign-up game.

And people stuck to that.

So whenever they hear about trading, they think of that sign-up game because the the way how an MLM space markets, it's bar none.

Like, they put a lot of money towards marketing.

They do all the big events and that kind of stuff.

So, they attract a lot of people.

And those people, they get the stigma that, you know, it's a sign-up game.

And that's what they think of trading.

It's just like, oh, like, what rank are you?

You know?

Yeah.

And I'm like, no, like, actually do the real thing.

You know, so yeah, I think it's just the fact that

the MLM space actually tarnished the name Forex.

Yeah.

That's why

I like to call it,

I'm a currency trader.

I'm an index trader.

Don't even use that word.

Yeah, because the term forex is very, very,

they tore it apart.

You know what I'm saying?

Like they definitely made it very, very negative to like a lot of people within the entire space.

So people are not really attracted to wanting to even learn anymore because they think it's a scam immediately.

Yeah, absolutely.

So what's a typical day like for you these days?

You're nine years into this.

You probably have,

bro, I pretty much accomplished a lot of things that I wanted to do.

Like now it's more just, you know, maintaining, like giving back to like my circle overall with like a certain business model and that kind of stuff, like the prop firms.

I have now also a trading platform also called Traylock as well.

We just came out with a social media platform called Invalio for traders, kind of like just giving back that kind of value to the people so they can actually take full advantage of it and just interact with people that's in the same space.

But I still do teach myself as well, like with Wall Street Academy.

But at the same time, I think it's just more just, you know, just taking care of them.

I have like some properties that I actually invest in, like my compound.

Oh, nice.

You know, I just have like this

normal fun.

I'll fly here, I fly there, go on trips, whatever, you know?

But as far as like the hard work stuff, I don't really do that much hard work anymore because I feel like I've already passed all those things that

made it harder to get to a certain point.

Like what people strive for is what I've already passed.

Nice.

So now it's just, you know, just cruising and chilling and, you know, so you're like semi-retired.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, which is like, it sounds terrible to say to some people because some people take it very offensively because they're probably like 50 years old.

And I'm saying, yeah, man, like, I'm already retired, bro.

Come on.

You know, so I feel like just more just, I'm working at the minimal, like, right now, but still growing the companies and everything that I'm a part of.

Wow.

You know?

Yeah.

That's nuts.

So what out of those nine years, what year did you make the first million out?

I think I had a million dollars like maybe like when I was 26 or 27.

Damn.

Actually, I think 27.

27.

I remember that.

Yeah, yeah.

It was pretty earlier on, but it was just a million dollars like in my bank account.

That's crazy.

But I mean, you obviously have to maintain that.

Like, that's after all your expenses and that kind of stuff and all that stuff.

But over time, it just got very, very easy to maintain.

And yeah, man, like, it's just, it came over time.

It's not like I did it immediately.

It just

comes over time.

Correct, correct.

Yeah.

So, like, what percentage of Forex traders, or you don't like that word, but just traders of currencies that make, actually make a profit, you think?

Because most of them lose, right?

No, look, to make a profit is not hard.

You know what I'm saying?

To make a profit is not hard.

To get to a certain point that you're making a ton of money, like

$100,000 trades and that kind of stuff, that takes time.

But

I think

it's still a low percentage.

I feel like maybe 80% still lose.

Because it's still a very, very big network of people.

But at the same time, people don't really want to take the chance to even invest in...

education a lot of times.

A lot of people still go to YouTube.

A lot of people still go to those free programs and then they want to learn it by themselves and everything else as to why it takes a longer learning curve for them to even

take on the certain skill sets to even make the kind of profitable trades that they want to make eventually.

So I feel like the percentage is always going to be low in this game, 20% or even 10% profitable for the most part, or even lower.

But it's never going to be to the point that it's 80% profitable in any kind of way.

It would make sense.

It would make sense, but at the same time, it's the main fact that people are hard-headed and people are very, very scared to invest in themselves when it comes to education nor do nor do they want to go through that entire learning curve that's why they go to signals and that kind of stuff yeah because they don't want to go through like the headache of you know yeah i agree i think the most skilled people in any industry stocks crypto will always like the top 10 will make money and then yeah because they go through that hard work i feel like you know yeah and um they enjoy it you know like that's like my passion like my craft like that's like my bread and butter you know that's what i that's like my main thing that i do absolutely everything else is kind of easy yeah you know what i'm saying but a lot of people like they kind of like put put that off as like their, their

second most important thing or third most important thing.

Like, that's like my first most important thing.

So people that treat it as such, they become profitable.

Yeah.

People that treat it like a side thing, they don't really make as much money as they plan on making because they don't really give it the time that it needs.

Yeah.

So you went all in from day one because you were working at Target when you started, right?

Correct, correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like part-time at Target, actually, part-time.

What was that like?

It was cool.

It wasn't a bad job.

It was just the main fact that in reality, the job couldn't take me to where I wanted to go.

At the time, at Target, like I was still driving like a nice car.

I had a 335 BMW of 2015.

It was clean.

It was nice.

But at the same time, what I wanted, I couldn't get out of that Target job.

Yeah, there's a cap.

Yeah, it was $8 an hour or $8.25.

Yeah.

25,

25% raise after working there for like about three months.

Jeez.

You know what I'm saying?

So at that point, I was like, yo, like, I'm not making the kind of money to buy that car that I want or the house.

that I want or to kind of like take care of my family that I want.

Because at the time, I was only staying, I was staying in a a two-bedroom apartment and I was sharing a room.

Wow.

So I was living with this lady and I was paying like maybe...

Just some random lady?

A random lady?

$800 for the room and everything at the time.

So yeah, like I was

getting by.

Getting by for the most part.

And you grew up in Jamaica, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's not like I've actually been there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cool.

No, it's, I mean, it's just a different kind of life, you know.

Like, I grew up like in a country part of Jamaica, so it's like more dirt roads.

It's not really much going on.

It's very, very slow life.

But at the same time, like, I mean, that's all that I knew at the time.

So, you know, coming to America was when I actually

seen that there was a lot more out there.

Wow.

How old were you when you came?

Oh, I'm like eight.

Oh, eight?

Eight, yeah.

And then, yeah, just stayed here ever since.

Wow.

Until like around 21 is when I got like my citizenship and like my green card, you know, all that stuff.

And,

and, yeah.

And then that's when I started to actually going back to Jamaica, like around 22 years old.

So I took like a 10-year break from not even being able to go back.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember when I went to Jamaica in college, I only had like 100K to my name.

Yeah.

But over there, I was a millionaire.

Yeah, but only 100K is still a lot of money.

It's all relative, right?

Yeah, correct.

But like 100K in the U.S., you're a millionaire in other countries without

in Jamaica, like, I mean, you could definitely make a great living, but at the same time, like, there's a lot of places that actually only take U.S.

currency as well.

So at the same time, like, it sounds great, but it still gets, like, after the conversion, that kind of stuff, it still gets very, very, very expensive as well.

You know?

That makes sense.

So you've been traveling a lot lately yeah man um i just came back from like five countries like

yeah we went to malta we went to croatia went to switzerland went to italy and then

um turkey all those are on my list man yeah yeah yeah which one was your favorite switzerland switzerland yeah definitely definitely food was good um the food and the scenery was amazing like like that's probably like the biggest thing that i got out of it it's very very fresh like you you walk outside and just like uh it just feels free you know i'm saying it's very very open very very free it's very very easy to breathe like you know it's all greenery and nature i love that yeah it's cool as hell yeah i grew up in jersey i miss the nature man because in the desert out here there's no trees there's nothing no grass nothing dry here

just turf it's rough man yeah so what's what's like your goal now because you're semi-retired what keeps you motivated these days um

like i said man like um i love um taking care of people bro i love do doing things that could actually help the next upcoming set of traders and everything better in some kind of way or make things a little bit easier in some kind of way as well.

Like it could be the trading platform, it could be like my educational platform, anything that I could actually add value to in some kind of way, then I try to actually put it out there so they could benefit.

Yeah, because you got oh, go ahead, yeah.

So, like, that's what actually keeps me going in some kind of way.

Because, I mean, like,

like I said, like, I don't really need to accomplish anything for me anymore.

Like, I feel like I have things, the majority of things that I do need or do want, actually.

Yeah, um, now it's just more just giving back.

I feel that.

Yeah, I saw one interview.

You guys, is it true you have 31 siblings?

Yeah, dude, that's crazy.

Yeah, how is that possible?

Um, oh, my dad have been, you know,

no, man, um, it's always been a thing.

Um, like, ever since, like, we were like teens and everything, like, teens or even, like, probably, you know, actually younger than teens.

Like, before I even came to America, actually, we was every single summer, like, it was to be 15 of us on the plane going to Jamaica at one time.

Dang.

Staying the entire summer and that kind of stuff.

I mean, mind you, like, it's, it's.

over 15 different women, but at the same time, it's majority of us have multiple siblings with, you know, that one mom and everything else.

But overall,

31 in total now.

That's insane.

In total now, yeah.

But it's cool because like back in high school, it was just five of us in one school.

Okay.

It was cool as hell.

You know what I'm saying?

Like you're in school with a bunch of your siblings at one time.

It's dope as hell.

So I feel like I never ever got the concept of being lonely in any kind of way because there was always someone there, you know, which is cool.

Just building a legacy overall.

And did you teach them how to do all this stuff?

They're open to it.

They dabbled in it in some kind of way.

Only a few of my siblings actually take it seriously.

But at the same time, like, I mean, they got to put in their own work as well.

Like, this is like one thing or one industry that you can't really take a shortcut on.

Like, I can't instill all of my knowledge into another person that easily.

It takes time to study and practice.

And you got to go through that learning curve as well.

And then eventually you'll come to a point that you actually understand and...

become profitable in some kind of way from that industry.

When you were trading full-time, full-time, how many hours per day were you trading?

Damn, bro.

Or trading or studying overall?

I guess both, right?

I think, oh, at the time, I think I was studying literally like maybe 20 hours a day, bro.

Damn.

Like, I was on it.

Like, I was, I wouldn't leave the couch.

That's crazy.

And I have photos of me just on the computer just studying.

Yeah.

And all of a sudden, like, I fall asleep.

I wake back up.

I'm back on the computer alone.

That's insane.

So I felt like it was just more like a thing that

I was determined to actually learn the craft and um yeah like I don't really put a time limit on like how often I study or like how long I study if I was passionate about it right and that's what it came down to like some people actually put too much time

on on something that they actually want you know I'm saying like oh I'm only gonna dedicate three hours a day

why like why not ten you know I'm saying like if you're passionate about it then why are you even counting yeah why limit yourself exactly so like that's what actually I went through like I didn't really count and um yeah like day in day out day in day out day in day out for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and months at a time I That's what I was doing.

Damn, that's good.

Yeah.

And the thing is, I have friends that could attest to that.

You know what I'm saying?

Like they used to leave my house and come back and I was in the same spot.

Yeah.

Studying, grinding.

So you gave up kind of your 20s going out and partying just to grind?

Hell no, no, no, no, no, no.

I still had fun.

I don't believe in that.

No, no.

But

I gave up at least.

at least like about a year or two of just straight grinding and studying trying to actually understand it.

Okay.

But I definitely feel like, you know, you have to have a nice balance with things or else you'll kind of just like go into like a hole.

Because

I'm still very, very social.

But at the same time, I never got to the point that like I'm going to disconnect from every single person and never interact with anybody.

No, like I feel like it's very, very important to interact in some kind of way, but also have the balance to then sit back and study as well.

Like say no to going out for a few nights.

Study for a little bit.

Yeah.

Things like that.

But

I always actually kept a good balance between being social and actually putting in work with the crap itself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you have any really bad days where you were kind of questioning, are you making the right choice?

Never.

No.

You had total losses in place.

Yeah, but put it this way, the money that I do lose, I could have made.

You know what I'm saying?

Or the money that I lost, I could have made.

And I understand that concept.

And that concept alone, like people,

people tend to think

very, very surface level to losing, period.

With trading, yeah, you lost money and that kind of stuff.

But what could you have done to make that money?

Or like, what should you have done to actually become profitable in that trade that, that you took?

Right.

So I always actually had that, that, that mindset, like, whenever it came down to it, because it's not like the money that I lost, I can't make it back up in that next trade.

It just means that I got to pretty much get back to studying, understand what I did wrong, and then get back in with a new mindset.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

So like, I never ever questioned that, okay, is this the way?

And that kind of stuff, because to say how you lost money, you could have made money.

Now, do better.

You know, so it was never a question.

I I know that money was always there.

And plus, I had a few friends and everything at the time was that was making like 25K a day

and that kind of stuff back in like 2016.

So that used to inspire me like back then, you know?

Right.

And that, that kind of showed me that, like, yo, like, if this person can do it, then I could definitely do it as well.

And over time, I showed that I do do that.

Yeah.

You know, based off of that ambitious

mindset that I had throughout trading the entire time.

And I've never ever lost that.

Yeah.

That's a great mindset to have because you probably had some days where you lost like 50K or something.

50K, 100K, 150.

Like, I lost all those numbers.

You know what I'm saying?

But at the same time, I also made those days as well.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's kind of like just, yeah, just putting your time.

And if you lose, you lose, then get back in.

The daily volume on the markets are so high.

It's possible to make like 500K in a day, right?

It's more than possible.

More than possible.

The most I ever made in one day was

$450,000.

Damn.

$450,000 in one day.

That was back in 2020.

Crazy.

And I bought a car with that one trade.

The next day?

Yeah.

Well, not the next day, but pretty much I withdrew and then bought a car with that one trade from that one trade.

But the fact that, yeah, like there's always an up in volume each and every single year, especially like, you know, like recent years and everything, CPI news and that kind of stuff been pushing the markets crazy.

So at the same time, like based on like your, your, your volume and like your account balance and your lot size and that kind of stuff and your level of skill and precision, you can make six figure days multiple days and back-to-back days as much as you want to.

But it does take risk to actually be,

you have to be open to the risk to even make the money right how much

I think um to even make that money I was probably down like maybe almost like a hundred thousand dollars to actually make that money so but the but the risk on on that trade was like about like 120 or like 140 wow um so I'm open to risking money like I'm not scared to lose money because um I know on on the back end if a person that's open to losing money they're now open to making the money yeah you know what i'm saying like that's like the reward of risking money inside the first place is making the money now um but yeah man like i you know, I put up decent risk to make big profits at times, but at the same time, like every now and again, I do get burnt.

So like, you know, it's part of the game as well.

Like you win, you win or you lose.

Yeah.

It is what it is.

Do you know your win percentage?

I don't know.

And I don't really care for it, honestly.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter because at the same time, like, put it this way, like, a person can actually lose, let's say, $100 20 times and make one trade for $4,000.

Right.

Now, it doesn't matter.

That's true.

You know what I'm saying?

Like,

yeah, like, people tend to be so fixated on win percentage and that kind of stuff.

All that matters to me is that, am I making money or am I not making money?

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

I could lose 100 trades and then I make one trade to make back up all those 100 trades plus.

You know what I'm saying?

So like technically a win percentage doesn't really matter to me personally.

I never thought of it that way because I was just assuming people were making the same trade in terms of dollar amount.

No.

So I thought of it that way.

Nah, man.

I feel like it's a good thing if you're a trader that takes on investors, that's different.

But I don't touch anybody else's money.

i use only my money and everything else so me personally i don't really give a win percentage honestly and that kind of stuff because you know it's

i mean

if you're taking on money then cool but i mean for a person that's just casually trading and that kind of stuff like it doesn't really matter too much honestly why did you decide not to go the fund route because you had potential to make hundreds of millions doing that right what funded route like taking people's money um

i hate people calling my I hate people calling my phone.

Like, seriously, like, like, my phone has been on silent.

Yeah.

It's, it doesn't doesn't ring my phone has been on silent for the past like four years it doesn't ring wow yeah because i don't like to you know answer my phone only because a person's calling me i i call them back every single time if i'm if if i'm on the phone then i see a call coming in all right cool i'll answer but i think it's just the um the stress of being bothered with people you know and plus i deal with people every single day as is in like the trading community and that kind of stuff in all kind of ways so to have a person not calling me because

account lost $200 for the day and now you're going to stress me out?

No.

I don't want to deal with people, period.

so I think there's people that that go that route they aspire to actually have a hedge fund at some time inside their lifetime but um I don't care to you know like I I make my money and then I live my life like that's how I see it you know as simple as that I don't really care to to make hundreds of million dollars you know I'm saying I care to make enough to actually live how I want to live and go from there wow so you found your point of happiness and your cool yeah like um yeah like I'm good like I'm I'm great with where I am and I know that if I want to make make $100,000, I know where to go to make that $100,000.

I don't need to make $200 million.

Like I don't care to, I don't even care to be a billionaire.

I don't care to.

Really?

I don't care to.

Because remember, when it comes to money, that's one thing that if you're chasing money, you're always going to chase money your entire life.

Because there is never a set amount that actually stops that.

Like, money is an infinite thing.

There's a...

What is it called?

I think it's a Googleplex, you know, like the longest number ever.

Like, that's money.

You know, like, you could keep on building money for the rest of your entire life, but you got to come to a point that you can actually afford what what you're into live what you want to live like travel buy the things that that you like and everything and go from there yeah i agree there's definitely a balance yeah you have to have that balance yeah and it could easily go left you know yeah you can lose it all man yeah you hear about it all the time yeah but the person that is able to lose it you know they know how to you have to get it back as well correct or yeah it might take longer but hey

for sure i want to dive into your coaching stuff before we wrap up because you have over 15 000 students right plus that yeah yeah yeah definitely Like that's a huge business in and itself.

So what were some key decisions you made to grow that business?

I think I was very, very active, bro.

You know what I'm saying?

Like at a time that I was growing like all of my communities and everything, there wasn't that much teachers.

There weren't that much

groups.

There was not really much going on inside the space too, too much compared to now.

So for me, it was very, very easy.

Because I was very, very active on the charts.

I was making great money.

A couple thousand dollars here, a couple thousand dollars there.

Show my trades.

That's very, very active overall.

So I feel like that actually got a lot of growth.

And me actually showing that, it showed like my growth as well.

So as I'm growing, my students are growing as well.

So things that I learn, I actually come out with a video every single year that's like two hours long and that kind of stuff called like My Confluence Series, where I actually go over certain breakdowns and that kind of stuff.

It kind of like show like my updated trading style in some kind of way as well.

So I feel like people actually love that over time.

And you know, just make, make

everything into something.

You know what I'm saying?

Like every single thing that I'm doing, I make something big out of it.

It could be a concert.

It could be a giveaway.

It could be an event.

It could be a class.

I make it a big thing.

You know what I'm saying?

So like over time, like people just love how interactive that I am on the charts, on social media and that kind of stuff.

And then they just gravitate.

You know what I'm saying?

And plus like personality also sells as well.

You know what I'm saying?

Like it's not like people are buying the

company.

They're buying into the person as well.

You know what I'm saying?

Like a person has to to be a person that's actually able to reach in like to reach that next person to actually gravitate to that next person and make them like

what's the word for it be very um open or yeah it's like to take in like um things that that that they're going through yeah you know i'm saying like um i'm i'm i think i've interacted with a ton of people over the years and that kind of stuff of all walks of life and um and yeah like i'm very very open to you know meeting new people and that kind of stuff also no i feel that man you're very relatable i know what you mean because there's crypto nerds that just have no personality no and i've i've seen that a thousand times because i think they're too much on the computer to the point that they don't even socialize too much you know i like to be socialized i like to socialize with a lot of people a lot of um people from different places different backgrounds and that kind of stuff and it it works out you know and i i relate to a lot of people people that even don't speak english you know what i'm saying they actually come across me and that yeah like i have a huge um spanish following also like in south america that kind of stuff too

I'm learning.

I'm learning actually.

So like I'm actually taking tutoring classes like twice a week, that kind of stuff now.

So you know, just put some effort towards learning something new.

You know what I'm saying?

That's part of my five-year plan because podcasting is expanding to international markets.

It's everywhere.

So I'm learning too right now.

So I want to have Spanish guests on eventually.

Yeah, yeah, man.

And plus, like, you know, you live in the U.S.

I'm pretty sure there's a ton of Hispanic people in Vegas.

There's a ton of Hispanic people in South Florida.

Miami.

You know what I'm saying?

So they're all the place.

That's like one language I feel like is definitely necessary to learn.

So many countries, too, speak it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

It's been awesome, man.

Learned a lot.

I'm sure everyone watching has learned a lot.

Anything you want to close off with?

I mean, I think just more, just, you know, be a bit more open with investing overall.

You know, like there's tons of ways to invest.

It could be trading currencies.

It could be trading indexes.

It could be cryptos.

It could be stocks.

It could be almost anything.

But I feel like people got to have a bit more appreciation to people that actually trade currencies because people have like a bad taste in their mouth when it comes to currencies.

They have a great taste in their mouth when it comes to stocks, you know because stocks are just so open and that kind of stuff but at the same time i feel as if like you know

currencies is a bit different is a bit more volatile and that kind of stuff and you know we're slowly trying to actually make that that name better for the community itself nice um and yeah man just um that and be open to investing in the knowledge because at the end of the day like to learn something from someone else that has already been through what you plan on going through why not take on the shortcut to actually learn what what they are they've already been through you know what i'm saying it takes a little bit of money to learn it but at the same time it takes way way less stress.

Yeah, it saves you years of years and a lot of money.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah.

All right, guys.

Thanks so much for coming on, bro.

Definitely, man.

All right, guys.

Have a good one.

Peace out.