Champtgram On Luke Belmar, Quitting Alcohol & Beating Depression | DSH #197

What made you go all in on health at such a young age?

Because most people in their 20s just ignore it.

Whenever I made my first million dollars, I got super confident as I tried to sustain wealth and actually run my business online.

I slowly started to crumble, right?

Sort of reverse engineer and like fix all these things that if I had just taken care of them in the first place, I think none of this would have happened.

Ladies and gentlemen, we got Champ on the show today.

How's it going, brother?

I'm doing well.

Thanks for having me, brother.

Yeah, it's good to see you again.

I haven't seen you since New York.

Yeah, dude, that was a good event, by the way.

Not bad, yeah.

It was great.

You did a great job.

Yeah, something about just meeting people, and you know the value of this masterminds networking really elevates you to do better, dude.

Absolutely.

And it's something that I think people don't understand, but you would understand this, right?

That like literally, if I spend $10,000 to go travel to some city and stay in a nice place and meet people, the ROI on those dollars is higher than almost anything else that I could do.

Like traveling the world and meeting people will make you significantly wealthier.

And this idea that you can get all of your information from the internet and be prepared to crush it in business and in every other area is

because any information that you're consuming on the internet has already been discussed in person somewhere and then sort of circulated to you via the algorithm.

So I get a ton of value out of just like traveling the world and meeting people.

It's where I've gotten basically all the ideas that I've ever had.

That's a good point because if you're learning it on the internet, it's been regurgitated.

You're a little late to the show.

100%.

100%.

And it reminds me of those kids that tried hard in school, but there's no value there.

Yeah, 100%.

No, and so people will look at

someone like you traveling the world and meeting all these people, be like, oh my God, he's spending so much money.

But those dollars give you a massively high RO.

Yeah, and it's a write-off.

It's a business write-off.

Yeah, and it's a write-off.

But the whole point that I'm trying to make is, yeah, like if the only information that you were consuming is from Twitter and YouTube, like this is information that other people have already known anymore.

This is no longer alpha.

This is beta.

And the only way to get like true, fresh ideas and be ahead of the curve is to travel the world and meet people in real life.

Yeah.

And your network has been growing like crazy the past year, I'd say, right?

Absolutely.

You've met Justin Waller, Colin Yersuson, Belmar, huge people.

What would you say keeps those guys in your circle?

Because everyone's trying to get in these circles.

100%.

So

this is a really good question.

I think people have a misconception about like how to network.

right so whenever people think of the room that they want to get into with all the people that they want to to meet, they think that the way to get into this room is to come up, try and pry the door open.

They get a foot in the door and they try and shove it all the way open and force themselves into these rooms.

When in reality, the most efficient way to get into these rooms that you want to be in is to walk up to the door, knock on the door and leave something of value and begin walking away.

And if you have left something of enough value to the people in that room, They're going to pick it up and they're going to call you back into that room and they're going to invite you in there.

And if you cannot leave something on that doorstep valuable enough to get invited in, then you are not ready to be in those rooms, right?

Facts.

And the thing that you need to do is work on yourself until you are deserving of belonging in those circles.

And you can do it faster than you think, right?

Like it's not.

you know, some terrible, hard thing, but people want to do everything other than like, hey, maybe the reason I don't hang out with these people is because I can't provide anything of value to them.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're big on that self-help, the self-improvement.

What made you go all in on health at such a young age?

Because most people in their 20s just ignore health.

Dude, to be honest, whenever I made my first million dollars, I got super cocky, right?

Because

I had done it while still working my little salary job.

I was not taking care of myself.

I was barely hitting the gym.

I wasn't eating well.

I was drinking,

partying all the time, doing all these things that I used to do.

And I was able to still, you know, make a decent amount of money.

So in my head, I'm thinking like, oh, like I was right.

Like all these gurus or whatever saying you have to do coal plunges and meditate or lying.

Like I got this.

And then what happened was that like slowly over the course of the next six or seven months, as I tried to sustain wealth and actually run my business online and grow my net worth, I slowly started to crumble, right?

And the pressure began mounting more and more and more.

And because I wasn't equipped to handle these things, because I wasn't really investing in myself and taking care of my own health, Things started to fall apart, right?

Like I started experiencing more and more negative emotion.

My businesses started to fall apart to the point where I almost actually lost like a large sum of my money.

A lot of bad things started happening.

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you know i think none of this would have happened, right?

And I think, again, there's this misconception where people are like,

oh, Warren Buffett is McDonald's.

Like, oh, Alex Ramosi says never skip dessert.

But like, dude, Alex Ramosi was a fitness trainer before he did this, right?

Like one of his first businesses was selling diet plans.

Like, that's not a coincidence.

You know what I mean?

And

these things go hand in hand, right?

So it's really just like this realization as I started to fall to pieces that like, these are all connected.

These are all the same thing.

I can't do one without the other.

And it made my life like a hundred million times better.

I can't believe I was ever like living another way.

Yeah, no, absolutely.

Cause you get used to it, right?

So it wasn't until I took a health test that saw my testosterone was kind of low.

I was like, whatever.

I'm used to it.

But then once I raised it, dude, I'm so much more energized.

Well, dude, you know what

Gary Brecca said to me whenever we were in Spain at Capital Club as he was like, dude, you don't understand.

He was talking to me about whenever he fixed Dana White's health.

And Dana was like, oh my God, God, Gary, I feel amazing.

And he was like, no, you don't feel amazing.

You just feel normal.

Right.

So this idea that people are walking around at like 30, 40, 50% of their true normal is really interesting.

Right.

And it's crazy because all you have to do to feel comparatively amazing, but literally just like normal is just do you know normal, healthy human things.

People overcomplicate it.

Like you take maybe five pills, all natural pills, lift, sauna.

It's not too hard.

No, it's not.

It's really not that complicated.

And, and the really cool thing is not like, it's not a ton of things you have to do.

It's really just like a short list of things that you need to not do, right?

So you think about something like fasting, for example, right?

Like the magic of this is literally like all you have to do is just not eat, just do nothing, right?

Like, or you just don't go out and get fed up every single, like it's, you literally just do nothing and your body will thank you.

You know what I mean?

So I agree, people overcomplicate it.

Absolutely.

And you just wrote a five-page paper about meeting 100 millionaires some takeaways you met uh you learned from them what were some of the biggest things you've learned yeah absolutely and it's it's funny whenever you whenever you meet more and more high net worth individuals and i i should preface this by saying that whenever i started really focusing on content I And I started meeting all these people, I would get kind of like nervous before these conversations.

And

the number one thing that i learned that i would say to any single person listening to this is that like dude they're just people like all of these people are just people that have 24 hours in their day just like you and i do and really the only thing that differentiates them from you if you are not where you want to be is the decisions that they are making and the only reason they're making better decisions than you is because they have access to better information and have better habits right so Another one of the biggest takeaways that I had is, again, about health, right?

Like, so I started meeting all of these people that were making way more money than me, that were absolutely crushing it online.

And I, in like, 10 or I met like 10 or 20 of these people, and all of them had pretty diligent morning routines.

And like, all of them were into fitness, right?

And all of them were doing all these practices that I used to like write off as like, oh, I shouldn't do this, right?

And literally, if you go look at when I started posting these interviews and meeting these people

to now,

and you literally look at the direct correlation of what I looked like.

I feel like now, like it's written all over my body, you know what I mean?

Were you overweight?

Yeah, I mean, I posted a tweet about this.

Like, I posted a tweet about this yesterday.

I was like skinny fat, right?

So, I was a really skinny kid my whole life growing up, and then I was, and then I ate very unhealthy and was drinking a lot as well from the time I was like 17 years old to 22.

Um, so it's like the worst combination, right?

So, it's like small legs, kind of small arms, but also kind of, you know what I I mean?

Just not how you want to be.

And now you're only drinking reverse osmosis water.

If you drink the reverse osmosis water, you got to remineralize, bro.

Put a little bit of pink Himalayan salt.

But

here's a hack that people don't know.

Like people think that, because people think that buying spring water is like super expensive.

And it can be, right?

If you order these packs of like glass bottle aquapona water, you're spending like $50 a week on water or more.

But actually, there's this company called Mountain Valley.

And I'm not sponsored for that.

There's this company called Mountain Valley.

Have you heard of them?

Wait, is that the one with the deer on it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's called Mountain Valley Spring Water.

They deliver everywhere inside the U.S.

And if you go to their website and you fill out their contact form, you can get in an email thread with one of their reps who will, uh, who essentially like fulfills water for businesses.

But you can basically just like buy a business water subscription and they will just deliver these massive multi-gallon jugs of pure spring water to your apartment for like super cheap every single month.

If you don't want to buy the reverse osmosis filter, like do we need that?

And it's literally like, it's, it's super inexpensive.

Yeah.

I need that.

I only drink, I not only, because you're limited, but I try to drink out of glass.

Yeah, dude.

I mean,

when you're a big city like this, dude, out here in Vegas, like you're meeting people all the time.

You're at events.

You don't want to be that guy.

You don't want to be that guy.

And you're not, and you don't want to like literally, like, water is very important.

So you don't want to like literally starve your body.

Yeah.

But the plastic stuff, dude, the microplastics, it's nasty.

Dude, and especially out here in the desert, dude.

Like they're transporting this shit in on trucks.

It's probably hot before it's cold.

You know what I mean?

So it's reaching into the water.

And when you microwave leftovers, even all those microplastics.

100%.

Yeah, dude.

It's crazy.

I ordered room service to the

room service this morning at the Cosmo.

I got like steak and eggs and omelette and like a juice.

First of all, it was like 120 bucks.

Second of all,

yeah, it was like cafeteria food.

It's hard.

Sounds like the Cosmo.

Yeah, it's hard, dude.

It's hard.

Yeah.

So what do you spend your money on?

I know you're not really materialistic at all.

Yeah, I mean, I, it, you were talking about the watch whenever I came in, but this is different because these beat inflation.

Yeah, yeah.

Um,

what I spend money on is like the vehicle that got me here, right?

So, I live in Miami now, right?

And you talk about vehicles, everybody wants the Urus, everybody wants the Rolls-Royce, you have Wes Watson driving around 21 supercars, right?

Those are the vehicles that are coveted by the average individual, right?

I choose to spend 99% of my money on the vehicle that got me here, which is me, me, like my mind and body, right?

So I talk about this all the time.

I posted on Twitter the other day, like, what the groceries are $500?

Because I, I mean, I ordered like a, from Whole Foods, a pretty big order of like large organic foods.

And everybody in my Twitter comments was like, what the like $500 are groceries?

Like, what is wrong with you?

But it's like, okay, but.

My body and mind are what got me here.

Yeah.

Right.

It's what's going to continue to propel me forward.

And it's literally the most important thing in my entire life is what I consume, right?

So, so that's what's important to me, right?

Or for example,

when people find out how much I'm spending on rent to have an oceanfront, you know, big apartment in Miami, right?

They are like, what the spending all this money, but you know, okay, I really

prioritize my morning routine.

I like to see sunlight first thing in the morning whenever I go practice breathwork.

And I do everything that I do when I wake up.

And that to me is worth it, right?

So if we're talking a difference of a few thousand dollars,

I see that as like a multi-million dollar ROI and how much better I'm going to feel and how much more productive I'm going to be and how much more motivated I'm going to be to execute on these ideas that at least thus far have made me a decent amount of money.

You know what I mean?

So it's like, so it's like, it's not expensive.

Your priorities are just fed, right?

Like if you think $300 on groceries at Whole Foods is too expensive, but you're going out to the club every weekend and you're spending hundreds of dollars drinking and you order Taco Bell off Uber Eats for $50 when they deliver it to our place.

Like, no, it's not too expensive.

Your pyramid of priorities is just fed up.

And the reality is that if you can afford to eat healthy foods and consume healthy ingredients without literally spending your last dollar, you can afford it.

Absolutely.

I used to cheap out on health, which was so s.

But yeah, now there's certain things you don't cheap out on.

Yeah.

Health is definitely one of them.

It's the number one, right?

And people have this thing where they're like, I think people think that food is like a big part of their health.

Like it is your health.

Like the only way to increase the quality of your outputs is to increase your inputs.

And you're literally like made up of what you eat and drink So anyway, sorry This is it's not supposed to be like a health so far I just

No, you're good.

So we've talked about taking care of the body now.

I want to talk about making money.

Yeah.

You've been able to make millions online.

How do you navigate the online scene and find good opportunities to monetize?

Yeah, that's a really good question.

So I think the most important lesson for me was that most opportunities are distractions in disguise, right?

And somebody who speaks brilliantly about this is Alex Ramosi.

You've probably heard him talk about like the season of no.

Yeah, yeah.

Right.

right.

So this thing starts to happen when you start making money online where people are going to start coming to you all the time with this opportunity.

You're like, hey, come out to this city or let's do this and let's do this.

And especially whenever you just made your first little bit of money, it's really tempting because you don't want these people to stop hitting you up.

Like, oh, if I don't go, they're not going to like me anymore.

You know what I mean?

You're like, oh, if I don't help him with this, he's not going to like me anymore.

But the reality is that, like, if you get distracted by all these little opportunities and you don't execute on your big goals,

you are eventually going to lose the money.

You're going to lose the status.

And these people who you wasted your time on aren't even going to want to hang out with you anymore anyway.

But if you can focus in on the core objectives and the things that got you there in the first place and say no to these people for a while, if you accomplish what you plan on accomplishing with those main goals, you're going to continue to ascend in money and status.

And those same people, I promise, are like, are still going to want to hang out with you.

You know what I mean?

So

when it comes to finding opportunities, it's very hard not to get distracted, right?

But like,

I mean, do you want me to talk about like what industries I'm interested in?

Yeah, 2024, what's your plan?

Are you going in on AI, newsletters?

What are you seeing?

Yeah, so it's funny you bring up newsletters.

Have you had Brett on the podcast?

That's the founder of Beehive?

No, no, no, Brett, like Brett Malanowski.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Before he got into them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Brett's been really big on newsletters recently.

And I actually had him come speak to my mastermind community.

He was like, you know, Champ was telling me he's starting a newsletter like a year ago and i was like that's so now everybody is is is big on newsletters so um

i wouldn't say i'm focusing on i mean i wouldn't say i'm focusing on my newsletter like as a business but i'm focusing really really heavily on email and collecting emails yeah why um well i have seen 10 20 30 40 of my friends get banned from Instagram and Twitter and TikTok in the last year or so, right?

And the reality is that like if you're only big on one platform, you're f because these are privately owned companies and they can take that away from you at any minute, right?

And truthfully, the only way to own these leads and own your audience

is to have their emails.

And I know it's kind of weird to like say the word leads for audience, but the reality is this, dude, like if you were an entrepreneur and a creator, like I am a YouTuber and a content creator, but I also own two businesses, right?

Like

your audience is your leads, right?

Like if you're not running paid ads,

you're getting organic traffic from the content that you create, right?

Which is why it's very important to align your content with the businesses that you run and why I wouldn't just go start like, you know,

a new dropshipping business.

But yeah, I'm going super big on email.

You see a lot of people doing the same thing, right?

Like just being able to capture my, you know, be like being able to capture and really resonate with and get closer to my audience.

I've gotten really, really amazing feedback.

Actually, like I didn't think anyone would really care whenever I started growing this free newsletter and sending out all of these like different hacks and things that I've learned in the past two years.

But it turns out that it really, really resonates.

And like, the, we've had, I have over 50% open rate, and people are emailing me back every single day.

Like, hey, man, I tried this.

Like, hey, man, I tried this.

So I think it like my, not to sound like corny, but my, my, my, really my core focus is just like remaining authentic to what I am good at and the unique value that I can provide to the world, which is, I mean, essentially just like telling the story of how in a year and a half, I went from like a $4,000 net worth working a shit job to doing over $3 million in revenue and everything that I've learned from having the great pleasure of meeting a lot of the YouTubers and creators that a lot of my audience also, you know, watches, but can't actually get in contact with.

You're conversing with these guys one-on-one, right?

People don't have access to that.

Right.

Yeah.

What was that shitty job you were working at?

I was doing software sales.

Oh, yeah.

So my, yeah, my first

hard skill was sales.

And I actually like, if I was starting over from zero,

that is the skill that I would learn 100% sales because you need it.

Like, if you want to make money online, you have to sell people something.

So even if I go learn copywriting, if I go learn, whatever it is that I learn, I'm then going to still have to sell that service to people online.

You know what I mean?

So it's like you might as well kind of get that one out of the way.

And I also think that high ticket sales is the easiest path for any 16, 17, 18 year old kid watching this to get to $10,000 a month.

Easily, dude.

I've paid out six figure salaries to high ticket closers for me that are college kids.

Dude, and it's so, it's so funny you say that because I posted, okay, I posted an Instagram reel about this today, like literally like, hey, if I was trying to go from zero to $10,000 a month, here's what I would do, right?

And I talked about the fact that I would go watch free YouTube videos to learn sales.

Right.

I would make a list of 100 influencers who are selling offers.

Sean Kelly would be one of them.

And then I would cold DM all 100 of those influencers or more offering to sell their offers for zero upfront dollars and 10 to 20% commission.

And I immediately had people in my comments like, oh, that's not the way it works.

Bro, it is the way it works.

I would know because I have people closing for me.

And all day,

there's no risk on our end.

We're not paying anything upfront.

So, yeah, I'll let you try it.

Yeah, why would I not, right?

Like, and instead of going and starting another

short form agency and DMing me, hey, man, I'll make you 10 shorts for free for one week, just like the hundred other kids that DM me that every single day.

If you can come to somebody like me or Sean or anybody who's selling offers and be like, hey,

I can sell for you and literally make you money at no additional cost,

why wouldn't they say yes?

And you would be surprised how many influencers there are out there with big names you could easily make a lot of money selling for.

that really need help.

Like they really need help because all influencers want to be entrepreneurs now and vice versa.

Yeah.

So I think it's the easiest way.

Absolutely.

And you plan on staying in Miami for a bit?

Yeah, dude.

I like it a lot.

I just re-signed for a year.

I mean, it's...

I mean, you go to Miami, right?

I like Miami.

I don't know if I could live there because I got a girl.

I feel like it's a good spot to be single at.

Oh, why do you say that?

It's Miami, bro.

Let's be real.

Yeah.

You got distractions out there.

Yeah, you know, I'm out there with my girl, right?

Like, I brought her out there.

We live together.

And

there are a lot of distractions.

But at the same time, like, I feel like,

for example, like even before I lived here, I used, when I lived in Austin, I lived like right on top of 6th Street where all the like party stuff is.

Like, dude, if you can't move to a city like Miami, you live in Vegas.

If you can't move to a city like Miami or Vegas and like, oh, I can't not go to the casino.

Like, oh my God, I can't not go.

Like, bro.

Yeah.

Like, if you have some modicum of self-control, it's not really that hard.

Now,

I'll tell you what I don't like that much about Miami is even 60 floors off the ground, i hear the 100 supercar engines being revved per hour and i hear people's laying on their horns every two seconds because driving in miami is like literally like driving in a third world country like my girl like will i don't even know why i'm paying for a parking spot at her building for like she will not drive in miami yeah um

So that I don't really like that either.

But dude, when it comes to connections, like when it comes to business and the fact that it's an international city, like anybody that you want to connect with is going to have a layover in Miami.

100%.

So I don't even have to leave.

Yeah, no, it's one of the biggest things for success is being in a successful area.

Dude, yeah.

And

it's like one of those things where

if I was still in the city that I grew up in,

driving the, if I was still in the city that I grew up in driving the car that I have, which is not like an insane car, I have a Tesla Model X plaid.

So it's like, it's pretty.

Less than $200,000, though.

Okay.

Okay.

And I was in Tulsa, where I grew up, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

I'd be like the only one, right?

Yeah.

People would see the doors open and be like, oh, you know what I mean?

I go to Miami, bro.

See that?

I'm broke.

No, literally, like in a Tesla, I'm broke.

Like I pull up to valet at my building every single day, and it's literally like Ferrari.

It's literally, you know, Rolls-Royce.

Like, oh, Wes Watson just pulled up and is matte pink.

Rolls-Royce, you know what I mean?

Oh, Time Piece Trades is SF90 is revving it, you know what I mean?

Like it's everywhere.

Like you live in Miami, I could literally go buy a bus down AP for 250 grand right now, buy uh wide body Novotech Lamborghini Urus and pull it up to Valet in my building, and nobody would give a like it doesn't even matter.

Yeah, so in in in it's one of those things where it's like I actually you don't even want it anymore, and you sort of like begin to realize what's important, but at the same time, right, it reminds you how much more wealth and success is out there.

And even though I'm not like an extremely materialistic person, right?

Like I don't really have any desire to spend a million dollars on a car.

I still look at that and am reminded of the fact that there are people who can do that responsibly and not bat an eye.

And I'm like, okay.

Time to keep working.

Easy motivation.

Yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense.

So out of all the interviews you've done, you've had on some animals on the show, which are, you don't have to say just one, but which ones really stand out to you?

I mean, dude, so a couple.

Obviously, like all the, I've had Luke, Luke Belmar on the channel three times.

He's a good friend of mine.

And every single time that he comes on the channel, I mean, we have just really, really, really good discussion.

You talk about somebody who is a thinker, right?

Somebody who prioritizes lifestyle, health, body, and mind, right?

Outside of money.

Great example.

Somebody I consider a pretty good friend of mine and and who I'm sure will be back on the channel again Dan Ko was an amazing guest

he gave me essentially like a breakdown of like how to scale from zero to a hundred thousand dollars a month with in with info products

because

it's not that hard people get somebody when I say that it's not that hard

and so Dan Ko was a great episode

Justin Waller was really good because he's just like a he's just a cool guy.

He's also genuine, dude.

6'7, dude.

He might have been taller than me now that you said that.

Yeah, it was cool.

Yeah, you had him on, right?

He had the mustache on that face.

Yeah, he did.

He grew it up.

Yeah, talk about

a true working man, right?

Who actually made a large sum of money doing a non-business?

Right, 20 mil a year or something great.

Yeah, crazy with construction.

So he put his time in, man, until he was what, like 35 until he really figured it out.

So tons of respect for Jay Waller.

Of course,

Jordan Welsh was

a banger episode, a sleeper episode.

I shot that one out in Switzerland with Luke and the guys.

Nice.

I mean,

everyone's been good.

Like Sebastian George and Sebastian Escueda, two good friends of mine, and both of them.

I mean, I think that people actually like sleep on just how much like detailed value these people are coming on my channel and just like saying for free.

Yeah.

And I have a couple coming up too that I'm really excited for.

You can say it because this won't be out for a bit.

Yeah.

It's not that I don't want to say it because I don't want to spoil it.

It's that I don't want to say it out loud because I don't want to jinx it.

But a big objective of mine and one of the, and I will say this because it'll hold me accountable.

And one of the reasons why I moved to Miami

is to

is to actually break into

like the mainstream YouTube space, right?

Because when you're in my situation

and you get on, uh, and you get on the elevator

and you know, once a week you end up writing with Bradley Martin and the full sin guys.

And of course, like, I'm not just like fanning out and be like, hey guys, you should come on the YouTube, right?

But when you're in a situation where you're around these people all the time and they become very humanized,

you can't help but think like,

I can get there, right?

And you think about where I was

like a year ago, like this little niche content creator in this emerging digital market that like 99% of the world still doesn't give a f about.

Yeah.

Which you were a huge player in too, right?

Web three, yeah.

Yeah.

And then you think about where I am now

and

think about the fact that everybody who I told that I was going to sort of make the transition and everybody in my comments for the first six months of me posting non-crypto content was like, what the f are you doing?

Like,

okay, the next logical step is like, how do I break into the mainstream?

And not because I think that it's going to make me a bunch of money, right?

Like, actually, a lot of the largest creators have trouble monetizing their audience because they're largely like kids, you know what I mean?

Their CPMs suck, yada, yada.

But just because like, I, I feel like I can do it with sort of the Rolodex that I have and I just like the the level of content that I've started to create.

So for sure, no, you're pulling in serious numbers already, man.

Yeah, man.

So So knock on wood, right?

Like some of the guests that I have coming on in the, in the near term, and of course, like, I'm not a podcast channel.

I have a show called The Hunter K show, my podcast that's part of my channel.

But,

you know,

I'm going to lean really heavily into as well, just like being authentic in myself.

Cause what's really funny is like,

I spent like

a year trying to create all like trying to figure out like the scientific formula.

Like, how do I, you know, how do I create content that people will like, right?

So, so so i'm i'm taking notes and i'm studying all these other creators i'm looking at the thumbnails i'm looking at the titles like oh i have to go interview a bunch of rich people no that didn't do well uh oh my god i have to only do uh podcasts about these big people well that helped and then one day i was like what if i literally just get on camera and just talk about exactly what I am doing, how I changed my life and what I would say to my younger self.

And then all of a sudden, people started being like, wow, this is a really good video.

And I was like, Oh, maybe this is what I should have been doing the whole time.

You know what I mean?

I think it's relatable, right?

Yeah, like, and I'm not like, you know what I mean?

Like, I'm not a, I'm not a guru, dude.

Like, I sell info products.

Um, what's your product?

Uh,

well, so I run two businesses.

Um, you, you know about champs only, I see the

subscription-based uh crypto trading community, uh, still one of the biggest on the internet right now, or I should say, the biggest being tracked by our payment processor.

And that's an area that I will never not be a part of.

As a matter of fact, like I'm still very actively investing in working with teams,

mostly pre-ICO projects right now that I really, really believe in on sort of the Web3 and crypto side of things.

But the second business that I started about four months ago is called Off the Grid.

And what I launched three and a half months ago was my inner circle, which was essentially like a 50-person prototype for like what happens if I create a high-ticket offer where I let 50 people

come join a super tight-knit group of myself and other entrepreneurs.

I get on calls with them and help them solve business, excuse me, and help them solve problems with their content creation, with their online businesses, with their health, with their...

everything, right?

Like I literally just get on calls and answer any questions that they have about anything that I've learned over the past year and a half.

And what if I also make it really interesting and start calling on my really massive Rolodex of friends who have scaled their businesses past $100,000 per month, who don't do consulting calls, who don't have any one-on-one offers.

And because they're friends of mine, I can just call them to come do weekly guest sessions for these 50 people too and give them direct access, sort of all under the principle of like, there are all these sort of expensive courses, right?

And all these different, like, I call it lipstick on a pig type offers where it's like shop with these beautiful cameras

and marketed incredibly.

And then you kind of get nothing out of it.

And it's like, what if I sort of flipped that on its head and I just started pouring as much of my time

as I can into 50, you know, entrepreneurs and people who are trying to level up in every way and also called in all of my smart friends to help me with it.

And

we do a number of other stuff things too, but I'm not, we did an IRL event.

This isn't supposed to be like a, it's not a sales pitch for my offer.

Point is, ran that for three months.

We did a few thousand bucks per head and over half of those guys and girls immediately opted back in when given a chance.

Wow.

Brought like an additional 10 referrals from my Instagram stories.

We brought in another 10, 11 people thus far.

I haven't posted that many.

So I went from thinking I was going to have to launch applications for this thing again

to like we're

almost full again and so like

at its essence this it's a mastermind group but like i don't want to just think of it as another mastermind like this is essentially like me taking everything that i've learned in the past two years going from like literally broke to a few million dollars in revenue and calling on all of my friends who you can't access anywhere else yeah and just pouring all that information into a really heavily vetted um exclusive group of of people and it's worked out pretty well thus far.

That is like the inner circle within this larger business called Off the Grid.

And we have a number of new offers launching as well.

Love it.

At a lower price point that I think

are going to blow people's mind, that I think are going to change the game as far as like value for people who are aspirational, who want to change their lives, who want to make money on the internet, but don't know sort of where to start or what business to start.

And

yeah, dude, I just think it's cutting edge, right?

Because I'm on here.

I'm like, it's not, you know what I mean?

I don't have some fancy mission statement.

It's not awesome.

Yeah, I don't have a fancy, like, I don't have a complex sales team, right?

It's really like no, and we, like, when people ask me what I, I get so many DMs every day, like, dude, how are you making money?

Like, what do you do for a living?

Yeah.

Um,

and it's like, I, I just live as

fruitful and healthy and productive a life as possible.

I document that process and give it to people who want to work closely with me.

And

that generates a lot of revenue for my business and subsequently helps these people make a lot of money.

So like, I don't know, like I don't have

like a five-word mission statement.

You know what I mean?

But what I do see is you're good at connecting the dots.

Right.

So when you have that ability, which I consider a high-income skill,

I think Dan Flashman's probably the best person I personally know that does it.

He has four masterminds bringing in over 20 million a year.

Yeah.

I mean, when you have that ability to connect people and help them make more money together, that's a high income skill.

Dude, people don't realize, people don't realize how much money you can make from introducing smart people to other smart people.

So much.

It's one of the most lucrative businesses.

Literally.

And it's really cool because it's not, you don't have to posture yourself as somebody who like,

I don't know everything.

I don't know everything.

I have a couple of like really high income skills that I'm very good at, but there's a lot of shit that I don't know.

I don't know everything, but I know someone who knows everything, and that's my superpower.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, you're one degree, maybe two max away from someone, right?

Yeah, I'd say I'm in a similar boat.

100, but dude, you're like the most, you're the best networker I know.

It's crazy.

The group chat, yeah.

And I did it with ERC, which did well.

Now I'm doing it with health insurance, and we'll see how it goes.

You do so,

but dude, it's been fun.

Anything you want to close off with?

Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciate you having me.

What do I want to close off with?

It's possible, right?

And the life of your dreams is way closer than you think it is.

And as a matter of fact, it's not hidden behind a bunch of really hard things that you have to start doing.

It's hidden behind a couple of simple things that you need to start doing.

So stop making excuses and actually try.

That's ours.

I appreciate you having me, brother.

Thanks for coming on, brother.

Thanks for watching, guys, as always, and I'll see you tomorrow.

Peace.