Annetta Powell On Surviving Prison, Making Millions & Meeting Oprah | Digital Social Hour #127

How long were you in prison?

15 months.

That's a long time.

A lot of successful women, they struggle dating for some reason.

I see articles about this.

Have you experienced that?

You know I have.

Could you date a guy that made less than you, though?

Yes, but it has to be like mid six figures.

Can you really teach people how to make 100K in 90 days?

Have you done that?

Of course.

Have I?

I didn't.

What?

I didn't make...

That's a lot of money.

Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

Here with a great guest for you guys today, Annetta Powell.

Yes, me.

How's it going?

I'm doing amazing.

Okay.

You seem like you're in a good mood.

You just fly in?

Just positive energy all the time.

No negativity.

Uh-huh.

Uh-uh.

That's low vibration.

Yeah.

You block all shit out, right?

Yep.

You already know.

Yeah.

It's tough, though, when you grow up in certain environments.

It is.

That's why, you know, when you get older, that's why you got to learn personal development.

So, how did you start going down that path of personal development?

You know what?

When the real estate market crashed, I was looking for another stream of income.

And, you know, I learned network marketing.

And when I was in network marketing, they teach you a lot of personal development.

And so I really studied that and it really helped me with my mindset.

Yeah.

So with this real estate economy looking weird, like it might, I don't know if it's going to crash, but do you have a plan if it does?

Well, of course.

Because guess what?

It'll be a buyer's market.

So that means that the prices go down really low and then I can buy, right?

And so I'll have a bigger portfolio.

Okay.

So you're going to stack up.

All day long, without a doubt.

When the 08 crash happened, where were you at with that?

When 2008 crashed, I was in real estate investing, but I was flipping houses.

So when the actual houses flipped, you know, when I were flipping the actual houses, the real estate crash, my money crashed.

At that time, I didn't understand how important passive income was.

And so at that time, I took all my money and I invested it into houses.

They were really cheap back in Detroit, like $2,000, $3,000, $4,000.

But I looked up, I ain't had no money.

So

now...

I know what a crash is.

So I'm waiting for the actual crash because then it'll be what?

A buyer's market.

So I'm prepared and I got some money now.

Okay.

So you're just stacking up, getting ready for the crash.

Getting ready for whatever.

Absolutely.

You think there'll be a crash as bad as 08?

You know what?

The banks are getting really smart.

Banks are literally like buying their houses and fixing them and holding on to them.

So I don't think that the market will be lucrative, but I know they'll probably put some houses out there.

But banks are familiar.

They already know how to, you know, gut them out and resell them, fix them up.

They kind of do that as well.

So, you know, it's going to be kind of tricky because they up on, you know, what we do.

Yeah, they've learned from that OA crash.

That one was brutal.

Yes.

Is real estate how you made your first million?

Yes, real estate is how I made my first million.

finding fixing and flipping properties i was actually a materials coordinator right and my dream what i wanted to do in life is i wanted to actually uh be a corporate like this corporate lady a director but when i was working at johnson controls making forty thousand dollars a year i realized that you could never become a millionaire working for somebody else so that's when i diversified and i met a guy and he was saying if i could show you how to make a million dollars what would you do i said i'll give you half so make a i did so make a long story short uh he ended up showing me how to do it but he was doing it the fraudulent way like literally back then they didn't have technology so you literally can take one house and and sell it like five different times.

And by the time, yeah, and by the time the bank catch up, you know, they got all these links, it's done.

But now the technology, immediately, they'll know if the house has been sold.

Wow.

So where did you end up?

I don't even know because I was like, I can't, you know, I just kind of like disappear because that's something that I didn't want to partake in.

Yeah.

What were you like growing up?

Were you like really different from everyone around you?

Definitely.

Like, well, I used to be this bad bad kid.

I used to want to fit in when I was growing up.

Work, you know, like we had like this little, it wasn't a real game, not no bloods and crips stuff, but I thought it was because I wanted to fit in.

And then as I grew up, I knew I wanted to be independent.

And I knew, you know, like

I'll never forget, like, I was kind of confused.

I wanted to go to college, but I did want to go to college.

So I ended up working at EDS.

And so when I start, yeah, it's like all this automotive stuff within the Detroit, Michigan area.

And I was working at EDS and

I just was like, I got to do something different.

So what happened was

after I left EDS, right, that's when I got into real estate.

So, and I realized that, you know, once I realized that you could never become a millionaire, that's when I start, you know, thinking about entrepreneurship.

And once you made that money, how much did your life change from there?

How much my life changed.

Yeah.

It was like, you know what, how wild when I made my first, when I made my first 10,000?

Okay.

Okay.

I'll never forget.

No, I was a hustler.

So my first hustle, do you know where New York is?

Yeah, I'm from Jersey.

Okay, Canal Street.

All that fake stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I used to literally, my dad used to work at actual General Motors.

And we could fly any, like, to New York, like anywhere for $19.

So I, right.

So I literally would jump on a plane, go on Canal Street, my first thousand dollars.

I turned it into like $10,000, bringing actual, like, you know, knockoff purses back.

Do you remember the iceberg sweaters?

No.

Okay.

Well, they got, you know, the Gucci fake sweaters.

I brought that back, and that's how I made my first $10,000.

So I never, oh, I was rich back then.

I thought I was.

But, you know, that was like, I was excited when I made my first 10,000.

But what I have realized in life is: if you can make 10,000, you can make $100,000, you can make a million dollars.

It's just, you know, strategically learning how to do it.

Levels, yeah.

And a lot of successful women, they struggle dating for some reason.

I see articles about this.

Have you experienced that?

You know, I have.

You know what?

This is my take.

Okay.

And I don't know, you might disagree, but I believe that successful women, we have standards, right?

Like, you can't, you know, do anything with us.

And so I think men nowadays, women have made it easy for them.

Like, it's like, you got to put in work.

You got to date me.

You got to court me or whatever the case may be.

But you have another woman that literally is okay with, you know, a man.

Like, I'll give you a prime example.

If you tell me we're going on a date at eight o'clock, right?

Okay, you need to.

call we you we need to go on a date or call me at 7 30 or 7 and say hey i'm not going to be able to make it don't call me at 9 30 10 o'clock time i oh my bad we not doing that right so to me like i feel like if a man interested he is definitely going to be on point when it comes to a woman um that he likes this is what i believe i always tell women there's two things a man gonna do if he really likes you he either going to step it up if you have standards or what or he gonna you know go away it's it's he you know it's either or interesting it doesn't sound like you're asking a lot just show up on time i don't get why there's issues i don't know like you got to think like my last it was so funny because I was thinking that me and my last ex-boyfriend, we were going to be starting dating.

And then it was like he wanted to pursue me, but then he was like, oh, you know,

I didn't know.

I'm thinking that, like.

we were going to date exclusively.

I'm thinking we reunite.

And he said, oh, no, I want to date.

We're going to date other people.

And I'm like, no, not me.

I'm not going to partake in.

Open relationship.

Right.

But a woman, see, we have our own, you know, money, but hold up.

We still have to humble ourselves because it's all about how you make a man feel.

Do you agree with me?

I like to feel good.

Exactly.

You can't have an independent woman, you know, like really,

you know, like

not saying affirmations, you know, not building them up, not making him feel good.

No, it's super important.

Your partner's got to be.

Exactly.

So it's all about how you make a man feel.

And I think that's very important.

And a lot of women, men don't like women that just, you know, they like talk crazy, you know,

right?

Don't honor is that.

They need to be positive.

Right.

Could you date a guy that made less than you, though?

Yes, but it has to be like mid six figures.

I like nice.

There's a base.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

So 500K a year is your base, basically.

I can work with that.

Right.

Yeah, that's a good amount.

It's nothing crazy, but actually, no, it's pretty high.

It's top 1%.

Well, let me get the 1%.

Yeah.

I mean, not a lot of guys make it, but I guess you're making a lot, so it's easier to find those people.

Right.

I can't build a man up.

I ain't doing a build-a-bear up, build a man up.

He got to come with something to the table.

Yeah.

So you've met some crazy people.

Let's go through these.

You met Oprah.

What did you learn from her?

Oprah, I learned from her.

She said that in life, you only need two or three people.

And that's true to actually grow with you and build with you.

And I really believe that.

Like, a lot of times people think they need a big entourage, but you just need two or three friends like me.

And I took that, and that's what I have.

I have two to three friends that i actually have built with developed a great relationship and um you know we've inspired each other to be the best version of who we want to be while we on the universe that's cool yeah she keeps her circle tight i noticed with gale

i never knew why but she probably yeah people probably tried using her and she just keeps it tight now you know yes what about uh michelle obama michelle obama was more of a like meet and greet okay so i really um she just really talked about,

you know, this watching what you do.

Like, she was saying, like, you know, when she was in the White House, she was like, they would have to watch what they do, you know, because they were in the White House.

Like,

you can't do anything.

People always watch you.

And I feel like even when you are a social media, when you have influence on social media, you got to watch what you do.

You know, you can't, you know, be out there doing all these different crazy things.

Like, I'll give you a prime example.

Like, some women, like, have different types of men on their social media.

Like, that's not like you won't find one on my social media.

I'm very private.

You know, we don't talk about how to make some money.

I'm going to talk about inspire you.

But far as coming into my personal life, I don't think that needs to be disclosed on social media.

Interesting.

Yeah, I noticed that about you when I was going on your IG.

No guys at all, which is, yeah, not a lot of girls to you.

I can't be looking like a 304.

What about Rick Ross?

Rick Ross was really cool.

You know what?

He is a great entrepreneur.

Like, literally, uh, he has a lot going on, and um, his mindset, like, he believes in, like, he has this thing called, uh, what is it?

I can't remember, but he also have like a conference that he does at his house, boss up.

I think that's what it is.

And literally, people come and talk about their business ideas and things like that.

And when I was talking to him, he was just saying, because I asked him about Wingstop, and he was like, It's great.

He was like, but at the end of the day, when you learn how to make more money, you know, with different businesses, you kind of move to a different level, you know?

So he, you know, people probably look at him as a rapper, but he has really diversified.

What he got a private jet now.

I mean, he's making some moves.

Man, he's and a lot of rappers go broke, but he seems to have gone the other way.

And you know what I liked about him?

In his contract, right?

He actually

was only supposed to talk.

But he actually, you know, rapped and, you know, did a couple songs, which I loved.

Nice.

Yeah, I like that about

I saw you got in the tax industry.

I'd like to learn more about that.

I've never met someone in that industry.

The tax game, oh my god, I love it.

In the tax industry, you know, a lot of people, it has really transitioned people's life.

Like, people really don't understand it.

Like, I know you know 10 people, right?

That has earned income.

And so, let's just say, for example, if you're charging $400 or $500,000, that's 10 people, that's like 5,000.

And it's like you can build up and make money in such a short span.

Like, you know, 100,000 in 90 days, a million.

It's all about what type of work ethic you can put in.

I always tell people in the tax came, you can go to zero to 100 real quick.

Wait, so how does it work?

Like, how do you make money off the tax?

Oh, so usually you're dealing with people of low income because usually low, you know, the tax actual

system is really set up for low income to mid-income people.

Yeah.

So usually they receive a refund.

Okay.

So when you file their taxes, let's just say you have somebody that makes $16,000, $17,000 with three children.

Usually, they're going to receive anywhere from $6,000 to $8,000,000 or $9,000.

Like, there's low income.

So, what happens is your actual fee is deducted from their actual refund amount, and you receive it the very next day once they receive their check.

Yeah, so similar to employee retention credit.

Have you seen that one?

Yeah, I have.

ERC.

Yeah.

Yeah, I did that for a bit.

Wow, I didn't know people got refunds like that, though.

Right.

I didn't know either.

Can you really teach people how to make 100K in 90 days?

Have you done that?

Of course.

Have I?

I didn't know.

What?

That's a lot of money.

To be with 90 days, you know, and being in the tax industry.

It's not because you got to think.

If you have 100 people, you charge them $500.

What is that?

That's what, $5,000 or $50,000?

$50,000.

$50,000.

You market to 200 people.

If you put out...

20,000 flyers and only 1% of people come and file their taxes with you.

How much money is that?

I can't even do the amount.

That's a hundred thousand.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

So it's not just really like you know, putting the content out, putting the pieces of material that you need to drive those people.

And I'm sure you already know people that have earned income, right?

It's not hard.

You could really run up a bag.

Yeah, you can.

So, how are you getting people?

Are you just going like door to door?

Like, how are you getting thousands of people?

I mean, you know, we do, you know, marketing, flyers, door hangers.

You know, it's a whole bunch of different ways that you can actually,

you know, obtain people to actually prepare their taxes.

Nice.

I was actually at a conference.

Oh, yeah.

I just left.

Which one?

The Latino.

Latino?

What's up?

It's an actual tax conference.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the good thing about Vegas.

There's so many here.

I can't even keep up with it.

Right.

And I see you going to a bunch of them, speaking at them.

How did you get started with that?

With speaking?

Yeah.

You know what?

A lot of times people like to hear my story.

And, you know, a lot of times when you're successful and you can inspire people, people always, you know, reach out to me, ask me, hey, can you speak at this event?

Nice.

Can you speak at that event?

I just have to make sure the event is going to be a win-win situation.

Right.

Because, you know, you can speak at some events and you could be running a nonprofit organization.

And I don't want to run a nonprofit organization.

You don't want to gain in charity?

No, I do have a 501c3 with my dad, though.

Okay.

What's that about?

My parents, my mother and father, they are deaf.

They cannot hear or talk.

So pretty much we give back to the deaf community.

And I went to prison.

I went to federal prison.

And so what I realized when I went to federal prison was I remember

being at the halfway house and it was so many women coming home from doing five, ten years.

They didn't have anything.

And so now every year around Christmas time, I actually sponsor their Christmas parties and I give gift certificates as well as I give my actual clothes to the actual halfway house to help women, you know, actually get a fresh start.

Wow, that's crazy.

How long were you in prison?

15 months.

That's a long time.

Were you freaking out in there?

Like, what was that like?

Prison pretty much was like, you know, one thing I can say is when I actually had to go to prison, I was like, okay.

I got to go to prison.

So I put a plan together.

So what I did was I wrote myself 100 books.

I i mean i typed up 100 books and the day i had to turn myself in i had a driver we went to the mail but i went to the post office mailed my list to me and i went in and so um i read i worked out you know got my mind spiritually together and you know you know people say this saying like when you go to prison you sit down you really do sit down right like you got to really figure it out like and during that time i really took some time to develop me and so when i got home, I did like, you know, 800,000.

I was stuck there in the tax industry.

So when I got home, I finally did over a million dollars in the tax industry back in 17.

Wait, you typed up 100 books?

Yes.

Wow.

100 books.

Can't you just.

print it out though?

I'm confused.

You typed it up.

No, I typed it up because, you know, like in there, I can't go to, you know, Google and look up a good book or I can't go to Amazon.

So what I did was I Googled all the books that I desired to read yeah while i was incarcerated so i typed the list up and then i mailed it to myself list up okay yeah the list up i thought you meant you typed up the whole book no no no no no so what i would do is i would call my friend or my family and i would say okay now send these five books and so they would send them in and i would read them wow you getting any prison fights uh-uh no you know not listen y'all gonna you're gonna laugh at me but i had this friend and um she was getting to it and i told her listen if you get into a fight here, you're going to be fighting by yourself because I want to go home.

Like, literally, if you fight in prison, you know, they'll lock you up, take you to a different campus.

Like, I ain't got your back in prison.

I'm trying to get out on my due date.

Okay.

Like, having that date to go home is like a dream.

Yeah.

And it's like, they give you a date to go in and then you have to request a date to go out.

Oh, you don't even get a date to go out.

Uh-uh.

I thought you know how much time you get.

No, you do, but you have to request,

you have to request at the half, like they have to send a request to have you, you know, go to the halfway house.

So that date is not available.

They may give you another date.

They have to have room in the federal system for you to even go home and make room for you.

Yeah.

And is it true it's like divided by race in there?

No.

Oh, no?

No, it's diversified.

Like, I was at a camp.

So literally, you know one thing when I went to federal prison, when I got sentenced, I never had any handcuffs on me.

Really?

Literally, I got sentenced, went went downstairs.

They fingerprinted me.

I got out.

You know, the Feds is like some gangsters.

Okay.

So after that, I'm just saying, after that, they mail you a letter and tell you when you got a report.

Okay.

They're not coming to get you.

They ain't coming to look for you.

You just need to be where they say at that time.

Really?

So I got my letter.

Yes.

I went in.

No handcuffs.

I was done in a camp free.

Like literally, two people like ran off the camp, but I'm not running off.

Okay.

I had a due date, so pretty much it's just free.

It's like a dorm, like literally, you know, you got bunk beds, you just can't go nowhere.

Okay, do you have any access to call people?

Yes, you would get 300 at that time.

I don't know if they changed it, but when I was locked up, you would have 300 minutes

to call people a day, a day, yeah, 300 minutes.

So that's no, no, no, no, no, no, a month.

Oh, a month.

I'm sorry.

No, a month.

Oh, so you got to be quick because that's five hours, right?

300 minutes.

I guess when you two minutes here, you still have to try to learn how to work your minutes.

Five hours, that's not that much for a month.

Yeah, and then they have people that had hustles in there.

So, you know, of course, it's very reasonable.

So, I would have somebody earn my clothes for $20, wash my clothes for $40,

wash my dishes for $10, you know.

So, you had money in there?

Well, no, you don't have money.

Like, you literally, I could tell them not because I ain't locked up, but literally, I would have somebody send money to the actual people that actually did services to me, to their their family, and they would deposit the money on their books.

Interesting.

So, if you have money, it kind of helps you out in there because you could pay for stuff.

Let me tell you something.

People, I know if somebody called you and been like, Can you send me $700 or $500 in prison?

You would be like, That's a lot of money.

Prison is very expensive.

Really?

Yeah.

Like, before I went in, people used to be asking me to send the money.

I'm like, For what?

Like, you can't wrap your head around it.

But you have commissary, you have to pay for emails.

Like, you know, in the emails, you're not, yeah, emails.

why you have to pay for emails at that time we have video skype uh you know if you want extra food like every week you could go to this place called you know commissary yeah buy your food uh they allow you to spend 300 a month so at the end of the day like that's expensive um you know being on actual it was called true links being on actual email it costs you

oh it was it's very it's buy clothes buy shoes like they had like timberland boots what's At prison?

Yeah, Timberland.

I always just assumed they just gave you everything, I guess.

Well, they do.

Hold up.

When you come, they give you these hard black boots and your feet are going to hurt.

You're going to have blisters when you get out of there.

Yeah.

And then they give you, of course, you know, the prown pants with the brown shirt.

Yeah.

But if you want anything extra, like jogging, you know, a gray jogging suit, you want t-shirts, you want gym shoes, you know, Timberland boots, then you have to pay for that.

Wow.

Must have been scary.

Can't imagine.

It's not not scary, honestly.

Really?

You know what?

I was in a camp.

I don't know.

I wasn't in, you know, that there's different levels to federal prison.

Right.

So I pretty much was in a camp, you know.

So, what's the difference between a camp and like the maximum security prison?

Maximum security, you're locked.

Sometimes you locked up all day.

Yeah.

You have bars.

You can't move.

Oh, you didn't have any bars?

Oh.

Still need to be seen.

It was like literally a camp is like a whole campus like with bunk beds.

Bro.

Like, it was.

Sounds like college yeah

and you know like they had these little cubes and we walk in and i had a bunkie we had a little desk okay you know like a bathroom with showers i mean no and it's like at eight o'clock they open the doors right and we don't have we will have count you know like early day and you know at night three times we have count

And after that, it's like you're free to do whatever you want to do.

Wow.

Doesn't sound too bad.

I guess without electronics, it's a little tough, but you probably got used to it after after like a few weeks.

Well, we had a little electronics.

Oh, you still.

We were able to, you know,

go to the email.

Oh, and also we were able to download music.

Okay.

So what were you bumping in there?

What would I listen to?

I was listening to Drake.

Classic.

Yeah, just different

songs, you know, biggie, you know, stuff like that.

All right.

Well, what are you working on next and where can people find you?

Oh, what I'm working on next is the tax game.

I know what taxes can do.

I know how it can transition people's life.

And so that's the next thing I want to really focus on the tax industry and helping people really develop and understand because it's like in the tax industry, you can make the money and you can put it into or diversify it into other vehicles that you want to do to help grow your business and become a serial entrepreneur.

Nice.

Yeah, I'll put the links in the description for people to check out.

Yeah, they need to check it out.

I do free masterclasses.

I got one coming up, you know, all the time.

So make sure, you know, they go to teachmetetaxgame.com and check it out.

Perfect.

Where can people message you?

Oh, they can actually hang catch me on Instagram at Annetta Powell.

All right.

Thanks for watching, guys.

I'll see you guys next time.

See y'all later.