How Jad Kantari Made MILLIONS with Dropshipping and Retired His Family | Digital Social Hour #105

I saw on your Instagram.

I thought it was funny, so I wanted to bring it up.

You said you leave your phone at home when you work out.

I do.

I leave my phone at home and I leave my phone in the car when I work.

Oh, yeah.

Like, I'll go to my parking lot and I just like leave it in the car.

Really?

Yeah.

Probably gonna get robbed.

Much of the critical thinking will go into the creatives, right?

That's where you should spend most of your time as an e-commerce brand owner.

Really, you can sell crap products.

Dude, I've sold paint.

Something as simple as paint.

you can even create the problem with creatives yeah and then create the solution and then make the customer think they need that product

Digital social hour, welcome back guys.

I'm your host Sean Kelly.

Got an e-commerce legend legend in the building today.

Jack Kintari, how's it going?

Good, good.

How are you?

Man, I'm good.

I can't wait to see what you've been up to because e-commerce, a lot of people have been falling off, but you've been maintaining your ground.

Yeah, just stuck with it, man, and been going since then, you know?

Yeah, so many people fell off.

I mean, when we met five years ago, everyone was doing it.

A lot of people switched to crypto, you know,

when the whole crypto wave was, you know, going strong.

And then a lot of people are switching back to e-comm now.

Okay.

So what's working these days?

Because obviously the model has changed a lot from when we first met.

Drop shipping was hot back then.

Uh what's what's hot right now?

Yeah, we're seeing a lot of success with organic, especially on TikTok um and Rios on on Instagram, given the two platforms are competing.

Um

Facebook still crushes for us.

And yeah, same with TikTok ads.

Wow.

And um we're working on Twitter ads now too, really.

Yeah, that's been the new wave.

Okay.

Even with the tracking issues with Facebook, it's still doing good for you guys?

Yeah, man.

Um we were able to solve that.

There's a lot of software now out there that can just bypass the whole thing.

So we're good to go.

You talking about Alex Becker's company?

Not necessarily.

That's a good one.

We use one called Popsicle.

Okay.

So yeah, that's the one I like to use.

What was your first big breakthrough in the e-commerce space where you made some good money?

Man, I started in March 2017.

I remember I got my first sale June 2017.

It was $9.99.

It's a free plus offer.

And then

ended up doing my first six-figure month, October 2017.

Yeah.

$120K on this

retro Nintendo.

Oh, the thing Soldier Boy sold.

It's very similar to that, yes.

And then after that, man, I remember going to a mastermind in New York in January 2018.

And then in 2018, I started hitting like half a million months and then a million months, like, you know, regularly.

Yeah, you were dominating, bro.

You've done over 30 mil now, right?

yeah thirty million oh that's crazy

and what are the margins typically on that the profit margins 20 okay 20 after everything yeah and that's crazy you're put putting up those numbers with a lean team like you don't have many employees not everybody everybody's remote all over the world um not many salaried employees even everybody's a contractor so there's not many industries you could do that in yeah man e-comm is is amazing in terms of start up cost and how efficient and how lenient it could be when you're traveling you know you can work from everywhere anywhere in the world yeah That's why I really like it.

You know, and it's very low barrier to entry.

When you look back at your most successful products or stores, how were you able to find that niche, that product to sell?

Was it just scrolling on social media or were you studying other sites?

Both.

I was scrolling on Instagram and Facebook and seeing what's working already.

And then I would take that and improve on it.

make it better, make the offer better, make the landing page better on the ads.

Anything I could improve, I would go ahead and do that, you know, add upsells on the back end,

you know, find cheaper product for sourcing.

And then from that, just really work on the brand, improve the product itself.

Anything that I could do, for example, I would go on Amazon and find bad reviews, negative reviews on the product and see how I can improve the product.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's great.

Just improve those parts and then sell it.

That's insane.

Most people would not do that, man.

Yeah.

And then another hack you can do is when you're doing that, you can go on amazon look at the negative reviews and then address that in your landing page because people are gonna always think okay but what if this what if that and then when you address that you know you're ahead of the competition so smart so what's your like conversion rate right now on on average man we it depends on the store depends on the aov but typically anywhere between five to we've we have stores that are doing nine percent dude that's so high yeah it's low aov though around thirty five dollars but still impressive that means like five to nine people on average out of every hundred, right, are buying.

Yep.

I wonder what Amazon's is.

I have no idea, actually, but I think Amazon's is probably high given you go with the intent of buying something rather than just like get served an ad and you click on it and then you fall off.

Yeah.

So Amazon's in and the trust factor is much higher on Amazon.

That's true.

You're not really browsing on Amazon.

You're there with a purpose for the most part.

Yeah, you just go, you click to buy, you know, I need this.

Yeah, and it's so easy, man.

Like, I'll be like, oh, I need toilet paper, hop on my phone, buy two clicks like it's it's actually crazy how frictionless they made it dude that's another thing that people should always study when doing e-comm you know you want to make your customer journey as frictionless as possible yeah you know the the the more friction the lesser conversion rate is going to be and you want to minimize clicks that's why I like to do one one checkout pages or one page checkouts and so on so on you know you don't want to really have the customer have to figure out how to check out you want to just make it as easy as possible yeah do you think that's what amazon does for sure do you think drop shipping is still a viable business model in 2023 24 or do you think it pretty much died out absolutely man we still drop ship if you have the right setup i mean apple drop ships all big companies yeah walmart does wait

though yeah if you go and order a mac a mac book right now yeah it'll ship from china no way i swear like i'll take the two to three if they don't have stock here it'll chip it'll ship from china they don't have stock oh cock yeah which is a lot of times a lot of times they just don't have iphone stock.

That's crazy.

So it'll ship from China.

China, and it'll take like two, three.

Wow.

I just ordered a MacBook last week, but it was off Amazon, so I got it like two days.

Yeah, if it's like a new version, it's like a 2023 that just dropped, they'll drop ship it.

But people still do that.

You know, as long as you're upfront with your customer, as long as you provide good customer support, and as long as you, you know, have a good supply chain in place, you're not sending crap products.

Yeah.

Dude,

it's very viable, and we still do it till this day.

And I don't don't start any brand without drop shipping in the beginning because I want to minimize risk.

I don't want to have people, I don't want to have to invest X amount and then the product potentially dying.

Because products cycle pretty quickly, right?

Oh, for sure.

I mean, you can always extend the lifetime of a product, right?

And that is through investing in good creatives, other platforms, and it comes to media buying and so on and so forth, right?

It's really up to you how much you want to grow and how much, you know, and also you have to look at the LTV and and if something, if it's if product, if it's a product that people are going to come back and buy, right?

Right.

And if you want to exit the brand or no, it really depends on your personal

goals.

But yeah, they do die if you don't take care of the product.

I mean, if you don't grow the brand the way you should, it's going to die.

How important is the creative and copy, and how can people get better at those?

So, creative is very, very important.

It's really the number one thing.

It's your pitch.

It's the first thing people see.

And I usually think that

your creative is going to do 90% of the selling.

Wow.

So once the creative is amazing and you dial it that in,

when customers land on your product page, unless there's something alarmingly off or the price or the offer is just not

in the right place,

you're going to convert.

They're going to convert, right?

You want to make sure that your creative is top notch and then

conversions will come easy yeah in terms of copy copy is very important as well copy can make or break your funnel um so you want to make sure there's professional copy but you know now there's chat gbt that

yeah they'll pump out like very solid copy so that's kind of taken care of but most of the critical thinking will go into the creatives right that's where you should spend most of your time as an e-commerce brand owner and you should really focus on improving your creatives because again, that's the pitch.

That's the first thing people see.

That's where a lot of the convincing happens.

Yeah, I like that advice because people skip over that part.

They just focus on the product.

Dude, yeah, I don't know why.

It's the most important step.

Wow.

Really, you can sell crap products.

Dude, I've sold paint, something as simple as paint with good creatives, just making it better, making it look better.

You can even create the problem with your creatives

and then create the solution and then make the customer think they need that product

due to your creative's angle and then sell it to them.

100% dude.

TikTok has shown you some great ads where I'll buy stuff at 2 a.m.

Like, how often are you just sitting, scrolling and you don't even need, you don't even know you needed something.

Yeah.

And then next thing you know, you're just buying this product because they really showcased an issue that you're like, okay, this resonates with me.

So I'm going to buy this.

I bought this one thing that fixed your back posture.

It's like a neck thing you lay on.

And I bought this.

Have you seen that push-up one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can change the

using it every day, honestly.

Good product.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the beauty of

being able to market on social media.

And back when we were getting started, you and I, it was just Facebook.

Everybody was competing on Facebook.

I mean, there's Snapchat and Pinterest, but it wasn't like today where TikTok and

there's Twitter.

Now there's Facebook, Google, YouTube.

There's a plethora of platforms that you can really hop on.

And everybody's on social media now, more than ever.

For sure.

So that's the right place to market and to sell your products.

What are the best creatives you've personally seen or done yourself, like ads-wise?

So,

I had this teeth whitening brand called Pearl.

And I remember we used to shoot our own content in-house.

So, we would bring models and we would splash them with red wine.

Like, it was at WeWork too.

Like, we would rent out like an office space and we just have like tarp everywhere, and we would splash people with like orange juice, coffee,

wine on their face.

And then we would kind of like show, you know, the effect of the whitening pen.

Wow.

That was something that we did.

You really want to go for

very scroll-stopping footage, right?

That's what you want to aim for.

And that's always the approach when you want to launch new creatives and a new brand.

Yeah.

So what were you doing before e-commerce?

I know you grew up in Lebanon, right?

Yeah, so I grew up in Lebanon.

I came here when I was 18 alone.

My family was still in in Lebanon.

Really?

Yeah, came here,

lived in OC for a bit for a year and a half, went to community college there and then transferred to USC.

And then I studied civil engineering.

Graduated with a civil engineering degree and then ended up working as a project engineer on the Omni Hotel downtown.

It's yeah, it's

in LA, downtown LA.

Actually, the company I worked with, or I worked for, was based in Vegas, and they've built SLS, they've built a lot of the wind, they've built MGM, they're a huge company out there.

Yeah,

and they were expanding onto LA, so I hopped on the team and I was working with them for three years and I was a project engineer on like a 60-story building down there.

Wow.

Yeah, it was rough, man.

It was a lot of work.

So going to college for engineering, would you say that was a good move?

Nah, if I could go back, I just wouldn't go to college.

Really?

Yeah, because it's just a waste of time, man.

Unless you're a doctor or a lawyer or you really want to go into the medical field or law, I don't really see

the necessity of going to school.

Right.

Because I want to start my own business.

I don't want to work for someone else.

If you want to work for someone else, then you kind of have to go to college.

Yeah, yeah.

But if you want to be a business owner, then going to college is a waste of time in my f ⁇ ing.

And then you started making crazy money.

So did your lifestyle change?

Did you move your family out?

Like, what was that process like?

Yeah, man.

I mean, I was able to help my family back in Lebanon, take care of them.

I moved my family to Dubai, opened a bunch of companies there, gave them a residency in Dubai, so now they live in Dubai.

Yeah, that's why I go I go a lot to Dubai and Lebanon, back and forth between LA.

And

yeah, man,

it was a complete change, you know.

Like, I came from Lebanon from a very mid-class, mid-to-low-class family.

So

I had food on the table, I had clothes on my back, but...

nothing more right like i never had any extravagant you know things or life that i had lived So it was insane to just make an insane amount of money in such a short period of time and adjusting that lifestyle.

Yeah, so what's it like over there?

Is it safe?

It's safe, yeah.

It's a third world country, but you know, like there's beautiful areas just like any other country.

And there's, you know, ghetto.

So, um, but it's, it's predominantly a a poor country.

Got it.

Um, but also there's a lot of beautiful spots.

Definitely worth worth, you know, checking out.

Yeah, gotta check it out.

Yeah.

So now that you've achieved the success, how much do you need to make per year to be comfortable?

Because your bar probably is raised every year, right?

So, man, every year I try to make more than the year before, but I try to aim for at least 1.5 million.

A year?

Profit.

Profit, net profit.

Right.

Yeah, at least.

Just to maintain the lifestyle.

So your expenses are high.

Yeah.

Yes, you're spending a good year.

I am.

Yeah.

Just family, you know, just overhead.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know?

God damn.

Yeah, I'm probably spending, I don't even want to know, actually.

It's up there, though.

It goes up every year.

Oh, dude, yeah.

You just, you know, you take care of more people.

You, you know, try to, I don't know.

Traveling is like.

Traveling is is another big expense.

Probably six figures a year.

Exactly.

And and especially when you're young, you want to do as much traveling as possible because you want to get that out of your system.

You want to meet people.

You want to network.

Because once you have a family, you can't really do that.

So that's something you want to keep in mind as well.

So, yeah, man.

It's about throwing that.

How have you balanced personal relationships with business?

Was that a struggle for you at any point?

Yes and no.

I think it really depends on the person that you're with

and kind of the expectations.

If they expect you to be there all the time and they don't want you to work, then you're going to have some tension.

But if they're supportive and if they want you to succeed and you have the same vision and goal, then I don't think it's really an issue.

You just got to set expectations and you got to make sure they know what they're, you know, what to expect and what your goals are and where you want to be.

And for me,

you know, know, my goals come first.

They come before anybody.

Because if I'm not reaching my goals, I'm really not providing my significant other with the life they should have and I want them to have.

So they're kind of standing in their own way in a sense.

Right.

Right.

So I want to provide them with the best life they'll ever be able to live.

And I want to do that to myself.

So it's really, we're a team and I'm working for their benefit as well.

Right.

So they, as long as they understand that and we can compromise and I can spend time with them and I'm giving them the time, you know, my time, then yeah, that should be good.

You're in LA, right?

I'm in LA, yeah.

Her dating out there is rough.

It sucks, bro.

It's not easy because everybody's, I don't know, it's a bit fake out there.

You know, there's not many down-to-earth people.

But if you run with the right people, you'll meet some good people.

But it is difficult.

Yeah, it's cloudy.

Because you're pretty low-key on social media.

A lot of girls out there probably care about having a following and stuff.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, I'm low-key.

I don't know, man.

It's just, I just do my thing stay stay in my lane and then you know yeah they come one of the takes i saw on your instagram i thought it was funny so i want to bring it up you said you leave your phone at home when you work out i do i leave my phone at home and i leave my phone in the car when i work oh yeah like i'll go to my parking lot and i just like leave it in the car and really yeah i'm probably gonna get robbed for saying this

if you're watching this guys

my car and phone are gonna be gone soon wait why do you do that because i don't want to get distracted and i tend to get distracted with my phone because dude, it's always going off, whether it's working or not.

So you go eight hours without your phone?

Yeah, just I mean, I'll take a break during lunch to just go check in, just to make sure you don't go to your car and check in.

Yeah, just to check in.

But I try to like, because I tried leaving my phone in a different room, but I tend to always go to the channel.

Oh, so you make it hard to get to.

I make it very hard to get to my phone during work hours because then I won't be able to focus.

Wow.

I like that.

But what if someone calls you?

I mean, my team can reach me on Slack.

People can reach me also on discord so i really want to just talk to my team during work hours um again that's why i go during lunch and i check on

uh you know just in case someone

just emergencies or anything like that but aside from that same with working out like i can't go to the gym with my phone man like i just get distracted yeah i just be so bored without you would i mean as long as you have music you can blast oh so how do you do it through just just an ipad like an ipod whatever okay yeah or like a phone that is not connected to doesn't have a yeah.

So you bring a music device.

Yeah, or typically I take my other phone that isn't really connected to anything.

Yeah.

I just don't connect it to the sound.

That makes sense.

Was there any difficult decisions, pivotal moments that stand out to you along your journey that you had to make?

Man,

I think the most difficult one was really leaving my family back home and

in the back of my mind thinking that I'm going to miss out on a lot of

memories with them.

Because I spent 10 years without seeing my family.

I couldn't.

Yeah,

I couldn't go back home because my mom accidentally washed my passport when she was visiting me once.

I went to the club in LA, came back, left my passport in my pants.

She washed them.

So my visa got destroyed.

Holy shit.

So for me to get a new visa, I had to exit the U.S., which was, I was sketched out about that because I just didn't know if they would give it to me.

What if they were like, never mind, you're rejected for extra.

And they don't even need to tell you why.

So, yeah, and my mom couldn't come to the States, so we couldn't see each other for 10 years.

10 years, bro.

10 years, bro.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

I left.

My brothers were like

12, 13, came back.

They were like grown-ass men, bro.

Like, 6'2, 6'1, 9, 6.

Crazy.

Holy crap.

You know?

So, yeah, it was crazy.

But

that was one thing.

The other thing was really quitting my job.

I think it was like a...

daunting step, you know?

But you were making money already.

I was making more money than the executive at the project.

Like, it was crazy.

But still, you have this,

you're kind of trained to believe that a nine-to-five is much more stable than being on your own, which is not true at all because you're really putting your fate in someone else's hands.

Yeah.

And they can show up to work one day and tell you, you're fired, no reason, you know, you're gone.

Right.

And I'd rather just be in control of my own life rather than having someone else dictate when I can show up to work or not.

That was something hard to kind of take the leap.

But once I did it and I just saw how not, you know, scary it is and how stable it was for me, dude, it was good.

That's a good point, man.

I like what you said about the stability because people assume nine to fives are stable, but they're really not.

They're not, man.

And you're just replaceable.

Yeah.

You're like a light bulb.

You're very replaceable, man.

Like, anytime you just don't make sense financially.

to these people, they will fire you.

No questions asked.

They just, it's business.

And you can't really tell them like anything.

They'll just fire you and you just, you're on your own, right?

So

for me, I want to be in control of my own life.

I want to dictate when I take my time off.

I want to know, I want to dictate when I go to lunch, when I go to the doctor.

I don't want to have anybody telling me what to do or whatever.

So,

yeah, man, that's, that's just, I don't know.

It's something that's been.

put in their head, you know, through society by society.

And it's like, I'll get a job.

It's stable yeah but it's really not no it's really not man when you have kids are you gonna send them to public school

I don't know I haven't thought that far yes and no I want to I don't want to spoil my kids too much I mean I would spoil the girls but the but the boys I want them to be like warriors so it'll it'll depend on you know if it's if it's a girl or a boy it's scary man it is it is and I don't know I don't know if I want to do that I might want to homeschool my kids yeah I was thinking I've been thinking about homeschooling my kids more and more recently, especially with like, you know, where we're headed in the world and the things that I want my kids to learn.

And I kind of want to teach them life my way.

I feel like when you go to school, you're taught life

by someone else's, you know, rules.

Yeah.

And I think rules in society are just made up.

Yeah, it's all right.

Like once you start working for yourself and you just live life on your own terms, you realize that everything around us is just made up rules by people who just don't know what they're doing.

Right?

And it's like, I want to make up my own rules.

I want to live by my own rules.

So.

Yeah, man, it's scary.

I mean, I just saw this clip.

I think Gary Vee was talking about it.

He's scared about his kids because part of our edge is the environment we grew up in.

Exactly.

And a lot of successful people don't come from money.

Yep.

So it's something that's.

It's something that you have to think about when you have money and how you want to position your kids through that because I don't want to make my kids not struggle because if you if you look if you notice everybody like every billionaire or everyone who's really made it in life has come from very difficult right beginnings right and I wanna

I want to give my kids a good life, but at the same time, I want to teach them hardship and I want to make sure they appreciate what they have, right?

Like that's very important.

Gratitude is what got me here, right?

One thing I noticed amongst you know americans is life is so easy here man compared to other places and they take things for granted and that is an edge that i had over everyone else coming to the states just by having just by you being a citizen and having the opportunity to be in the u.s just to be here present on the soil is such a blessing for you that most people just don't realize it right but me having to go through 10 years just to get my green card just to eventually become a citizen not being able to see my family coming from a place where you can't even get payment processors to run your own business.

Damn.

Yeah, in Lebanon.

You know, you just realize how blessed you are just to be in the States.

So that's something that I try to instill in people and really show.

And that's what I want to instill in my kids.

Yeah.

People have no idea, like other countries, I mean, this has got to be one of the best ones to live in.

Man, when you realize, and that's something funny, funny enough, like Elon Musk, he grew up in Canada and then he came to the U.S.

And he even said, like, America is where all dreams come true.

Wow.

Yeah.

And it's true.

The opportunity here, it's the land of opportunity, you know, as cliche as that is.

Yeah.

And there's nowhere in the world where you can make things happen more than the U.S.

And I'm so thankful and blessed.

and grateful to be able to realize that at an early age by you know living elsewhere and coming here and um again like i said i want to be able to instill that in my kids and make sure they're aware of that because that's going to get them way farther in life it's crazy man they're doing studies on gratitude and how it actually leads to more opportunities now dude gratitude is the number one driving factor for me yeah with my success the second i lose sense of gratitude whether it's because i made a lot of money or whatever it is that i'm going through I notice that I'm starting to slow down.

And as soon as I, you know, kind of get knocked down and I feel feel grateful again for the things that I have I'm back doing 10 times better than before so

grateful gratitude and being grateful is something that you want to always keep at the forefront of your like mind yeah and it's a daily practice for me for sure every day when I wake up I write down five things I'm grateful for yeah I've done that for two years yeah and you should do it however way you know like speaks to you right whether it's like Going on the balcony and looking out into your beautiful like view or whatever it is, taking a morning walk or just appreciating what God has given you,

dude, it'll really get you far in life.

And I've noticed the people that aren't grateful in life, dude, it always

catches up to them and they just are miserable.

Just like very miserable people, you know?

Yeah, because we have rich friends that are, let's be honest, they're not happy.

They're not happy, man.

And they're just, they're not, they don't have this peace of mind.

You can be rich, you can be,

you know, super balling, have every car and mansion, but if you don't have this peace of mind and this gratitude just within you,

man, you you're you're struggling.

You're struggling.

Yeah, no.

It's the trade-off I had to find in myself the past few years because there's been points where I've had money where I could retire, but I wouldn't be entirely happy.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

The whole point is really to do what you want and be happy doing it and just be at ease.

Yeah.

Like you want to be able to travel and just like enjoy it to the fullest and

be grateful for it, right?

And if you have, if you always have things on your mind and you're worried and you're, you're just chasing stuff and you're not taking a moment to just take things in and what God has given you, then you're never going to be happy.

You're just not.

And I've been through this and that's why

I'm saying this because that has been something that I finally was able to realize over the past couple of years myself.

Yeah.

And it really helped me.

you know, progress so much faster.

Yeah, no, I love that because right now I'm at the point where I'm making a little less than prior years, but I'm happier.

Yeah.

So I gave up making more, but I'm so much happier and healthier in life.

I can see that, man.

I've seen you just do your thing and not really do what other people are doing.

Dude, look at you, man.

Like, you have your own studio.

No, for real.

I could have launched a course and made millions.

I could have done all this stuff, but I think I'm at a good point.

This is wild, bro.

Like, you're in the win.

And it's, you know, big ups for that.

Like, I remember when we were running Jersey Store, Jersey, your Jersey store.

Chores.

Yeah, yeah.

Those are the days.

It was crazy, bro.

And then now you're hosting, like,

successful people, ultra-successful people on your show.

So, man, you too, man.

You were at like five mil back then.

Now you're at over 30.

It's awesome.

Again, man, it's the gratitude.

It's never giving up.

It's continuously just staying hungry.

You know, never getting cocky.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've noticed that again.

A lot of people just get cocky.

It's the ego, right?

The ego just gets so big where they think they know it all i'm the type of person that always wants to learn from everybody

whether you know a beginner or an expert and i'm still paying for mentors and i'm always going to masterminds and i just want to grow and meet more people and network and grow more businesses and chase more opportunity i mean that's what life is about right like i think we're here to build a legacy like the only way to escape death is through legacy the only way to escape death is if you leave a legacy right?

And that's what we're here for.

We're here for, you know, just building something that will transcend onto generations and generations where people will remember us and remember what we left behind.

Yeah.

And that's what I want to do.

You know, I want to leave a legacy where I will be remembered.

Nice.

Do you fear death?

I don't.

I went through a phase where I kind of did for a bit, very short period.

But that's when your faith in God is not strong.

Right.

You know, when your faith in god is strong you don't really fear anything because you know it's like you know the other day my uncle gave me this this example and he was saying that imagine you're in russia right and and you're one of putin's like main men like you can do whatever you want you can you can do anything because you're like like putin got my back yeah but imagine someone's much more powerful than putin like god got your back right that's that's you can do you can do anything in the world and nobody's gonna stand in your way for sure that's that's how i think about it And I don't really fear death because I think everything is in God's hands.

And I'm here to, like I said, help people,

leave a positive impact, leave a legacy, continue to build, build my empire, and just leave the world a better place.

Love it, man.

Love that.

What's next for you and where can people find you?

I'm building a SaaS right now.

It's an ad spy tool that's going to have both Facebook and

Instagram and TikTok ads.

I want to build a lot more SaaS in the e-comm space.

I really want to focus on the e-comm space because that's my bread and butter.

More brands, of course.

I'm also growing my personal brand on YouTube.

I'm going to start dropping a lot of YouTube content.

Nice.

Just lifestyle value, a lot of that.

Kind of like Alex Hormozzi with my own swag in it.

Yeah, yeah.

And

yeah, people can find me on Instagram at Jad Kantari.

YouTube as well at Jad Kantari.

Nice.

You got a Discord too, right?

I got a Discord too.

Yeah, it has 700 members in it.

You We drop gems in there all the time.

I also have a mentorship, a one-on-one mentorship where we help people start their online e-commerce businesses and scale.

We have, you know, students making $1.2 million a month,

$500,000 a month, so on.

It's crazy, man.

Yeah, dropshipping changed my life.

That's how I got started.

Bro, I love e-comm, man.

I still get that, like...

that feeling of just, you know, fire under my butt when I wake up in the morning and I want to like scale a brand or make a new brand and scale it, sell it.

It's just, I will never lose that passion for it.

I don't know.

It's just, it's really my passion.

It's an exciting space, man.

Very exciting.

Waking up to money, I mean.

Dude, waking up to like a dashboard that says you just made 10K while you slept.

While you slept, like, what's better than that?

Yeah.

There's nothing better than that, man.

I'm trying to find that.

Yeah, it's that like exciting feeling that you get, like that rush of endorphins that you get in the morning when you're just like refreshing your dashboard.

It's like 10K, 11K, 12k dude and you're just sitting there like just making so much money you're going out partying you're traveling you're making money it's i i don't know like what's a better deal than that yeah you could work wherever you want man yeah and and again like i said man the barrier to entry is so so like so little because if you wanted to go open up a chain for example like subway or jack-in-the-box or whatever you're really looking at a 250k investment and you're not really making anything back for the first six months to a year right and you don't even know if you're going to be profitable.

Like, that's how crazy it is to actually go open up a restaurant or whatever.

So, the barrier to entry with e-comm is so small that it just doesn't, especially now with organic, like, it just doesn't make sense not to do it.

Absolutely.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Dude, thank you for having me, man.

I'm so proud of you, bro.

Like, pleasure.

Thanks, bro.

Thanks for watching, guys, and I'll see you guys next time.