Jeremiah the Bull Evans Believes EGO and Anger are GOOD For You | Digital Social Hour #98

I do not believe depression is real.

I believe that is one of the greatest pandemics of this world is to spread this lie of depression.

If you feel depressed, good.

It's called pain.

It's a part of this world, right?

And let's just be honest, depression is a first world problem.

You do not see depression in third world, second world countries.

Probably, you know why?

Because our lives ain't that tough.

All right, welcome back to the digital social hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

Here are my co-host Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Jeremiah Evans.

What's up, guys?

Man, it's Derek's in the building.

Dior ones.

Yes.

Step big step in.

Naturally.

How much do you pay for them?

I got these for $15.

$15K.

Yeah, $15K.

It's the most I've seen on a shoe?

Someone spend.

Really?

Yeah.

You've seen more?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, the Marty McFlies, they go for what?

Oh, $90,000.

I mean, you could talk about like...

Did it like, I mean, you could talk about like the 1985s,

the Jordans ones went for 2 million, something like that.

I mean, dude, like, yeah,

these are actually not that expensive compared to some of these.

And they're rare.

The real ones are actually rare.

Like, how many of those were made, do you think?

I don't think it's what, a thousand pairs?

Yours is numbered, right?

Those are numbered.

Yeah, I mean, I can take it off.

There's a number here on the inside.

But it's a pretty big amount.

These are nice.

These are rare, but there's some shoes, man, that they're so rare.

Like,

it's easy to sell shoes for like $30,000, $40,000.

Yeah, it depends on the collection.

How many shoes do you have?

Too many.

You guys are building sneaker heads.

Fuck with you, bro.

You know what's funny?

I wasn't that big of a sneakerhead before, but

it's kind of a marquee of entrepreneurs.

Like back in the 1990s, it was like how good your suit looked.

Now it's what sneakers are you wearing?

Like Like if you're an entrepreneur, you got to show up in top-tier sneakers in order for people to be like, all right.

Sneakers and watch?

Yeah, sneakers and watch.

I've noticed that.

I've had to step up my game a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got to, appearance is key.

Like I always, like we was telling the guy before, yeah, appearance.

So you mentioned suits.

What were you doing before sneakers?

Was oh man, I couldn't afford before when I got into sneakers, man, I couldn't afford

cleats, I guess.

I don't know.

I didn't really have much of a collection until about four years ago when business started doing good.

So yeah.

But, I mean, I love watches, you know, and then cars.

Oh, dude, it's addicting.

It's bad.

So you're pretty materialistic.

Yeah.

You can't add the ego into the gift.

He goes, he goes, you need to repent.

You're materialistic.

That's right.

No, I like hearing this point of view because no guest has been open like this.

Yeah, yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

Everyone says they're not, honestly.

Well, I mean, I think, so I think when you say materialistic, there's the ego there.

But I think if you like material things, you're just human.

Right.

We all do.

Sean, you have a nice house.

Are you materialistic?

With certain things.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Right.

Okay.

Listen, let me say something on this, though.

Like,

we, especially for wealthy people, right?

We speak in symbols.

Okay.

We don't, we don't speak it.

We don't speak like everybody else.

We speak through symbols.

Okay.

Like when I, if I have a yacht,

that's a symbol.

It's a status symbol, right?

We speak through symbols because.

Oh, sorry.

We good?

We good?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I didn't know if you're stopping me.

Back.

Oh, look.

All right, I didn't know if you stopped.

No, I slowed.

I got it.

You're good.

Okay.

No, we speak through symbols.

And the reason we speak through symbols, because no one else can understand,

right?

I have a yacht or I have a jet.

And the size of my yacht, the size of my jet, what does it symbolize?

What does it represent?

It represents the amount of risk, the amount of effort, what it took to become who I am to achieve that level, right?

So when we talk about wearing a Rolex, and all these dudes out there who are entrepreneurs who say like, like, oh, you know, like wearing a Rolex, like that, that doesn't show who you really are, you know, like that's just, that's just a flash of the ego.

It's like, you know what?

Yeah, it is.

Because guess what?

I'm going to be completely honest here.

Your ego is actually your power.

People talk about ego like it's evil.

Those are the people who aren't doing shit.

Well, I feel like, okay, so with that, it is, it is, it is a power, right?

Yeah.

But I think you need to know how, when to apply it in what situation.

I don't think you should walk around with an ego because then you become become disliked well okay you got to have a balance oh you're going to be disliked for sure but if you if you walk around trying to be liked you ain't going nowhere well not trying to be liked but trying to just

not be so egotistical when it comes to your approach and when you're communicating with people these i feel like you have to have about i think there's a time to have an ego on and then there's time to have your shield off well let's let's define ego right because like this is this is like a high level idea of thinking of talking about this and i know a lot of people are going to get really pissed off.

Yes.

Like, you're supposed to have an ego.

Who the hell says that?

No one says it out loud, but it's the truth.

It's the unspoken rule

of the elite.

I mean, let's just go, for example, we're talking sports.

Michael Jordan.

Does he have an ego?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

He has an ego, right?

Like Tom Brady.

And I know he comes across as like, no, no.

Tom Brady has an ego.

He has an ego, man.

There's a story of a janitor who walked in and saw Tom Brady at 4 a.m.

in the gym with his headphones on looking at himself in the mirror saying i'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet he was saying that to himself in the mirror okay right in this album right four in the morning he's in the gym yeah or let's talk about or we could just go down the line conor mcgregor ego ego huge ego right well let's let's let honestly someone who's who embodies this more than anybody muhammad ali he said i am the greatest yeah he's the originator he he says i am the greatest and he said i told myself that before i knew i was right anyone who has ascended to any level of power in this world has an ego.

Yeah, but you have to know when to have it and when not.

You always have it.

But false ego has to be expressed by tearing others down.

True ego is when I rise,

others rise with me.

Think about this.

What does ego mean?

Like the word itself.

It's Latin.

It means I, right?

Ego sum in Latin means I am.

Right.

So the power of I, and we talk about confidence as entrepreneurs.

We talk about that.

Yeah.

If you don't have this supreme belief in yourself and that you will bet on you over anybody else you are not going to win and then if you have this idea that i'm going to walk around hoping that other people like me like me again you're not going to win right the key to being a winner is that you have this supreme belief in i in me right in who i am and who i can become but that's the true ego the true ego is living up to your higher self right no absolutely so i actually I'm for the ego, but I'm also, I know how to control it.

Yes.

That's what I'm saying.

It's a control thing.

Some people lose control and then they go and then they spiral.

So then now you don't even like them.

Right.

Even you got an ego.

It's like, dude, I don't like that.

Well, what is that?

Let's define that.

That's the alter ego.

Alter ego means other self, right?

Alter ego

is what's battling your ego.

It's these battle of who you really are, of the natural man versus the higher self, right?

And we're talking like the alter ego is like, wow, when do I turn it on?

The ego doesn't have to tear anyone down, it doesn't have to be disliked, it doesn't have to be some dick, you know, walking around,

absolutely, but it is supremely confident because I know who I am,

right?

Absolutely.

And so, the idea of turning on and off the ego, that's when we're talking about the alter ego because people step into alter egos, right?

They think this have this idea of like, oh, I'm going to, you know, step into this different version of me that they've created, right?

That's fine and all, but that's fake right that's fake is it it is because if you if you understand ego you don't have to step into anything else but yourself you have to remain centered in who you are and you stay in that power okay so being remaining centered right and also being a person that is personable likable and can have a casual conversation with someone those are two different aspects yes i'm talking about people who are simply their their ego outweighs the person meaning that you really can't like engulf yourself in a conversation with them because it's too much ego.

Even if they're speaking to a person that's lower level, they're still bragging about the things.

And it's really, you're not supposed to do that.

You know what I'm saying?

So that's what I'm saying.

Have a balance in regards to know, obviously, we all have an ego because success is there.

Yes.

But just know how to balance the ego or just kind of know who to use it against because it can be used.

You need it at times.

When we're going back and forth, you got to tell me you're the best.

But when you're teaching and you're expressing yourself or you're being a mentor, I feel like you have to kind of lower it so that you can express and people can really take to you in a sense.

See, I would push back on that too.

And here's why, here's why, like, I know what you're saying, right?

I know exactly what you're saying.

Because, like, if you're, if you're some d who's constantly telling other people, like, I'm better than you, like, no one's going to follow you,

right?

Exactly.

Like, no one's going to follow you.

Right.

But what, what I'm trying to, what I'm trying to explain here is, is when you, when you understand truly the depth of who you are.

Yes.

Like really who I am in my highest form, my highest self, and my highest form.

Now think about ego, being that center of power, right?

If you step into that,

this is getting,

I'm just going to say it, right?

That's actually the highest form of love and care you could ever have, not only for yourself, but for others.

Absolutely.

And this is why, like, think about this, right?

The most sacred things, the most sacred lessons are always the most misunderstood.

There's always the most backlash around them.

When you speak truth, it divides, right?

Absolutely.

Truth divides.

Andrew Day.

Truth divides, right?

It's either right or it's wrong.

That's the thing about truth.

And especially today, we can talk about this all the time, is no one wants to talk about truth.

For some reason, even the word truth offends people.

They say, oh, well, it's my truth, right?

No, no, no.

Truth is truth.

And yes, truth is divisive.

And there's a reason it's divisive because it separates the men from the boys.

It separates the lions from the sheep.

It separates those who would live in the light, those who would live in the truth versus those who would not.

And that is critical because if we don't do that, if we don't have truth, then we live in chaos.

And so what's, so what is the truth?

The truth is understanding who you are.

And if you understand who you really are and your highest power, then you're full of ego.

And I know everyone out there wants to, you know, we have this weird definition around ego, but our definition in the English language is wrong.

It's wrong, right?

Because I'm very Christian, right?

And I'm going to offend a lot of Christians here when I say this, but this is what people say, like in Christianity, you know, confess your sins, right?

Well, that stem, that stems from, you know, the Catholic Church.

It comes back, obviously, from the Bible, right?

But actually, if you take it back to the Islamic and the Jewish language, even before the time of Christ, actually, it was more of confess your greatness.

Think about that.

Confess your greatness, not your sins.

Why is that?

Why should you confess your greatness, not your sins?

Well, because if I'm a worthless piece of,

right?

And I constantly.

I become that.

Exactly.

There is no accountability on how I'm supposed to act.

I'm a worthless piece of shit.

And I tell myself every day I repent of my sins.

And we act like that's humility.

Right.

Right.

We act like that's humility.

It's thinking less of ourselves, right?

Which is humble.

That's what the origin of humble.

I hate that word.

No, the word humble is totally misunderstood, right?

And I'll get to that in a sec.

Remind me, we'll get to that in a sec, right?

But think about this, right?

If I'm a worthless piece of shit, if I'm a worthless worm, lower, you know, all this stuff, right?

Then there is zero accountability.

I'm going to act exactly, you know, like that level, right?

But what if I told you that you were a God?

What if I told you that you were a king?

What if I told you that you actually have the power to create order amongst all the chaos, that you can build kingdoms here on earth, whether it's in business or your family or whatever it is?

You have that power as a man and as a woman.

That is the power inside you.

Well, once you understand that, your responsibility and the accountability that you carry on your shoulders every day on how you should act has now elevated to you acting like someone who is important and who actually can make a difference in this world.

So the idea of understanding your greatness is actually the most humble thing you could ever do because it will bring you to your knees.

When you know who you are, it will bring you to your knees.

And actually, when we talk about, there's two words: there's humility and there's meekness.

By the way, stop me if I'm going off.

I love these topics, guys.

No, this is good.

Welcome to the Digital Social Apple.

And

buy some jerseys while you're at it.

But think about this, right?

We talk about meekness and we talk about humility.

Right.

Again, words that are completely misunderstood.

Their true definition of meekness is greatness beyond all human measure, but still being willing to bend the knee.

Because

really that?

Are you really that humble if you're just a low piece of and you're always on your knees, always begging, always begging?

And well, it's like, no, you're actually not that humble.

You beg every day.

You know, you think down on yourself every single day.

You're not that humble.

You know why?

Because you live there.

You know who's humble?

The king who still bends the knee.

The God who still looks to God as himself, as our father, and says, I will serve thee, right?

That's the most humble thing you could ever do is to be great beyond all measure and still be willing to bend the knee, still be willing to serve.

And that's where you're talking about when it comes to the ego is still being able to serve and still being around your fellow men and loving them and serving them, especially in business, right?

As business honestly is the new kingdom, right?

You build businesses, you're building a form of kingdom, right?

And if I'm the head of my business, I am the king of my kingdom.

My job, if you're a real entrepreneur, is to serve.

is to serve a purpose, to solve a problem.

Not to make profits, to solve a problem.

And if you do that, then you're living in your highest form and your highest self.

And I know I get on this tangent, but that is the highest form of humility is to actually have supreme confidence.

And I will say an ego.

If you have an ego, then you are now able to be humble.

Right?

If you're always, you know, you know who you are.

That's right.

You know who you are.

You carry a light.

And we know this, guys.

Think about the people who walk in a room and you can feel it.

You're like,

who's that?

You immediately, you know, right?

That's someone who knows who they are.

That's someone who has sacrificed in their life and has put off what we call the natural man, the, you know, the weakness of men, and they've sacrificed to become who they are.

And if they've stepped into that, it's undeniable.

You feel it.

That's why when Michael Jordan walks in the room, everyone goes,

even before it's Michael Jordan, they go, there's something different about that dude, right?

It's because he understands the power of ego.

And that's what I'm talking about.

Is like, is we, again, we always, we always try to, it's like, hey, you know, channel your ego, right?

Hey, keep your ego in check.

It depends on a person, but I definitely get what you're saying.

You said some people, they use their ego for bad.

Exactly.

And those are the most people I'm talking about.

You're exactly right.

But is that really their ego?

If they're using it for bad, like I said, when you step into your highest form of self, that is truth and that is light inside of you.

That's confidence, right?

Right.

And does that person ever use use that for bad?

You can.

Absolutely.

You couldn't.

I believe you can.

I would say you don't because that's not your true form.

You stepped into an alter ego for your own gain and your own benefit.

Again, this is the idea of there is the alter ego, your other self, and your true self.

And again, we define them as the same word as ego.

Right?

We use the same word.

But it's alter.

One is the other self and one is your true self.

And if you step into light and power and truth, then you are full of love and light light and service.

You're full of this power of not wanting to tear others down, but to raise them up.

Absolutely.

Right?

So,

man, we go on these tangents.

No, no, no.

I was enlightening.

Yeah, sure.

I've never heard that take on it.

But that's the thing is like, we don't talk about this enough.

Nah.

And you know why?

It's taboo.

It's taboo.

Because people will be like, well, you're not.

As soon as they hear you talking, well, he's not a humble guy.

He's not.

They'll start using, throwing those words at you.

Right.

They'll start.

You're not a man of the people.

Yeah, you're a man.

Yeah.

You also don't believe depression is real.

So you believe in stoism?

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Stoicism?

Yeah.

You know what that is?

Stoicism.

It's telling yourself that I'm not depressed.

So it's all mental.

When you're sick, I'm not sick.

Sickness might be a little different.

You can tell yourself that, but I'm serious.

Stoicism's a real thing.

Stoicism is an ancient philosophy.

You know, really, I believe of Stoicism,

really, the founder of Stoicism was Aristotle.

And he was one of the teachers of a man named Marcus Aurelius, one of the way they consider the greatest emperor of Rome.

We're talking about the greatest empire of all time, and the greatest emperor practiced this philosophy, right?

And the philosophy actually does stem from this idea of what I'm talking about with ego and greatness.

And it is that I am in control of my life.

And anything outside of that is not my concern, right?

But no, I mean, to what you're saying, I do not believe depression is real.

I believe that is one of the greatest pandemics of this world is to spread this lie of depression, to spread this lie of anxiety.

No

that you feel sad and depressed, but that doesn't mean you are a depressed person.

It's this idea of identity.

We're talking about identity and who you are, right?

You think that just because you feel sad and depressed often, that that's who you are and there's nothing you can do about it, you have no idea who you are and how powerful you are.

You have no idea what you are put on this earth to do and how much power you have to overcome that.

If you feel depressed, good.

It's called pain.

It's a part of this world, right?

And let's just be honest, depression is a first world problem.

You do not see depression in third world, second world countries because it is a first world problem.

You know why?

Because our lives ain't that tough.

Our lives are not that tough.

And so we have to create other problems in our life.

Or maybe it's because we've never actually suffered.

I can tell you exactly how to overcome depression right here, right now.

Go do something really, really difficult and overcome it whether that's a diet a challenge weightlifting or you know or or anything go do something and accomplish something even if it's small because what you'll find it will take pain and sacrifice to get there you have overcome something that is the purpose of our lives is to overcome right and if we sit in our depression a lot of people are depressed when i say this they freak out because i'm attacking their identity and these victims and these people who want to be victims, it is an attack on their identity because it gives them a crutch for life.

It gives them a reason to always have an excuse.

And you guys know from playing sports, there's always someone who always has an excuse on the team.

There's always someone who has a little nick, right?

But then there's those who find a way to push through that nick, right?

They push through that pain to sacrifice for us to win, for the team, whatever it is, right?

Jimmy Buller.

Yeah, Jimmy Butler.

Dude, he's

different.

Yeah.

He's all the way.

Dude, he's What a stud.

And he's he's a clone of Michael Jordan.

We can talk about that, right?

For sure.

But no, depression is not real, right?

And yes, it is a real feeling, but it is not who you are.

One of the most dangerous things you could ever have is some doctor tell you that this is who you are, and there's nothing you can do about it except

here's this medication, take it for the rest of your life.

And Big Pharma makes $36 a month off you.

Oh, no, yeah.

We're all talking about a life-paying residual income for big pharma.

you're paying it, bro.

Yeah, right.

And all because you bought into this idea that you're weak, that you can't overcome, right?

That you can't, like, you know what?

Like, people who are depressed are actually blessed because it is a blessing to have your problems.

There's actually a woman.

Do you guys know who Yoon Mee Park is?

I've heard of her.

Is that the South Korean?

Yes, that's the North Korean girl.

She was on Joe Rogan's podcast.

She speaks at the UN.

I've had the honor of actually being with her, being around her and

traveling across the country with her.

And she's become a good friend of me and my wife.

And

I could not tell you guys how powerful that woman is.

And here's why.

I want you guys to, everyone listening to someone's job.

I actually had dealt with a little bit of depression.

All he did was change his diet.

Oh, dude.

I mean, your body is how you control the mind.

So I got diagnosed with depression

in college.

I was in his diet the whole time.

And it was because I wasn't working out.

I wasn't eating a good diet.

And they made me believe I was this kid that had depression, basically.

they and you hey this is how it's gonna be the rest of your life gave me Xanax gave me Klein Yeah, take this stuff and you know that'll destroy your life even more.

I almost died from it.

I dude.

I don't doubt it.

And we could talk about Big Pharma want to shut down this podcast, but it's the truth, man.

That is some of the most dangerous stuff you could ever put in your body.

And we're just handing it out like it's candy.

Yeah, for sure.

Right.

But I mean, let's talk, like, the body is the key to controlling the mind.

So if you want to control the mind, your body is that tool.

So if you, and that's why they say you can solve 90% of depression, anxiety through the body, through exercise and diet you know and I'll say like of course there's going to be someone who has something in their brain that is off but that is a small percentage so small that we need to have this conversation that that's probably if you're listening it's probably not you right because we're talking 99% of all this depression anxiety stuff is actually something that you could easily overcome and they say oh it's a chemical imbalance your brain well no everything's a chemical imbalance your brain if I start talking to you about puppies killed right and we just start having that conversation about little puppies right there being

we're all gonna feel sad guess what happened we all had some release of chemical in our brain with the thought so actually our thoughts control the release

so if it's it's not the other way around it's not all the chemicals are being released and then i have thought no your thoughts are what release the chemicals the chemicals that's why depression cannot exist in the same body as gratitude And if you live in gratitude and you have that power,

you can't be sad.

It's impossible.

And this is what I'm saying about you and me.

Because even your losses, you actually are thankful for them because there's a lesson in them.

So

you really can't be down about anything.

So happiness is a choice.

Happiness is every day.

Exactly.

A hard choice.

Yes.

Easy is actually easier to be sad.

It is easier.

It is way easier.

That's why it's a first-world problem because we choose the easy route.

We choose this victim route.

It makes us feel better.

Oddly enough, it makes us feel better to have that because it

gives us something to overcome, or really just some

crutch to live with.

It's appreciation.

It's gratitude it's uh

people

it's more so along the lines of attention because people actually take to you more when you're sad they're sorry for you oh oh we want to talk about the manipulation that people

are willing to do to get you to conform to them for sure because hey i'm feeling depressed okay look let me get you a blanket right let me get you some crackers

they're not going to attend to the happy guy they're going to attend to the sad girlfriend that's right not even a sad man yeah the sad man we are literally we got to deal with that on our own yeah the sad woman gets all the attention and care.

The sad man has to just get over.

That's right.

That's right.

That's the way the world is built, designed.

It is for sure something that people use to manipulate others to get what they want.

I mean, let's be honest.

It is.

Wait, can you tell everybody what you do?

We didn't get to get into that.

Well, so I own a company called the Alpha's Creed.

It's my coaching company where I teach people what we're talking about now.

I teach people, you know, actually how to make more money,

how to become more physically fit and how to become who you're supposed to become, right?

I also own a company called Black Pine Capital, which is just a conglomerate of different businesses, like life insurance company,

credit company, real estate, stuff like that.

So when did you, so when did you actually feel like there was a need for

what you do?

And when did you actually start to build your own confidence in regards to like, because money actually helps with confidence.

I feel like some people may be wrong, but I feel like money actually helps with confidence.

When did you, When did you make enough money to where you was like, you know what?

It feels good.

I'm going to start teaching other people how to, you know, get to where I'm at through a feeling or happiness or that's attractive.

Oddly enough, it's always been my vision since I was a kid.

Okay.

Right.

So I'm on.

So I'll just give you guys a quick rundown.

So on my on my Instagram, I'm called the bull.

Right.

My nickname is the bull, and people can say whatever they want, but I didn't give myself that nickname.

Okay.

I didn't come up with it.

I actually hate it.

I can tell why.

Yeah.

I can tell.

But actually, growing up, my nickname used to be the Fat Bull, right?

So I was bullied like a, you know, all growing up, man.

I mean, one of the things these kids used to do is, you know, like, and this was all growing up.

They would group these kids would find me, tackle me, kick the out of me, pour chocolate milk down my throat, you know, stuff tater tots in my mouth, say, Fat Bull needs milk, right?

And this went on for years, right?

Wow.

And, and

I'll just give you guys, you know, a quick idea of this.

Like, one day, like, I mean, I'm talking years.

Like, I, dude, I, it went on so long i didn't want to wake up you know i really i didn't want to wake up it was because you know why because it was safe in my bed right if i went if i was in bed if i was asleep if i stayed home it was safe but and every day i woke up having to go to school it's like it's almost like i woke up like i was gonna go get in a fight because all the times i was like i had those butterflies in my stomach like a lot of times i was puking before i went to school i was so nervous right

and

And so one and one of these days, like it just felt worse than ever and just something snapped because, you know, like these kids, they did the same thing.

They found me, they beat the shit out of me, you know, poured chocolate milk all over my face.

And I was just begging them to stop.

And I just, dude, I begged them, just stop.

And they won and they ran off, right?

But, but

anyway, so what didn't get me, though, it was the moment that I rolled over, I was on my knees, and I just got blood in my nose and all this.

And I look out and I see all these kids watching,

watching.

And I knew they they felt bad, but they didn't do anything about it, they didn't do anything.

And I, dude, I went, I just, and I just sat there and I asked, I was like, why won't any of you help me?

And I walked straight home.

My home wasn't far from the Rancher School.

I walked home, and you know, my mom saw me and she was freaking out.

Like, again, this has been going on for years.

And, dude, I tell you, she called my dad.

My dad came out from the back room and he saw me.

And I'm telling you, man,

something in his eyes when I saw me snapped.

It just snapped.

I mean, in just pure anger and like a father would, he just snapped, but not at me.

And I knew that.

It wasn't at me, but I saw something in his eyes snap.

And immediately he grabs me, pulls me away from my mom, and takes me another room.

And he looks me dead in the eyes, says, son, no one is coming to save you.

And he said, if

he said, you're going to have to be the hero of your own story.

You're going to have to take care of this on your own because no one's coming to help you.

You're going to have to be great or you're going to be nothing.

So then he literally then proceeded to kick me out of the house and he said, don't come home until you beat one of those kids up.

How old are you?

I was 11 at this time.

He went down the street and so I, dude, that's what's funny is I was I was scared shitless, but in my mind, I couldn't go home.

He gave me no choice.

He kicked me out of the house, said, don't come home until you beat me up.

Did he actually watch the fight from Ronald Courtland?

No, no, no.

You know, it's funny because I guess I probably could have faked it, you know, and just told him like, I did it.

But, like, for some reason, I just believed him.

Like, it's not going to, I can't come home.

Right.

So I did.

I was puking on.

I was so scared.

And I found one of the kids.

And just because I felt like, you know, we'll talk about your back against the wall.

I felt like I had no choice.

Knock on this kid's door.

And I, you know, he comes to the door and I just beat the living shit out of him, man.

Right there, just beat the shit out of him.

Just all my rage just came out.

And dude, I ran home.

I thought I was going to get arrested, right?

But I'm running home.

And I tell you, this was the first moment in my life where I'd ever felt, we're talking about the power of self and the power of ego,

pure joy and happiness.

I was so happy running home.

I mean, I could not wait to show my dad my knuckles because that's like, you know, if you've ever been in a fist fight, you know, like your hands kind of fucked up, a little bit of swelling, right?

Especially if you connected.

Yeah, especially if you're, you know, like, and so I couldn't wait.

I just was so excited to show him, right?

And he took me, he, when I went home and showed him, he took me out to get a Wendy's Frosty and burger.

Probably didn't need it because I was a fat bull, but whatever, you know, but and he just, he just told me again, he said, he said, this is, he said, you have to become someone who's strong enough, not only to defend yourself, but to defend others.

So you were the only child?

No, I had, I had siblings.

I had three sisters at the time.

But you were the youngest or older?

I was the second oldest.

Oh, right.

So you better get your sisters.

Yeah, but like that, you know, and that's the thing is

he instilled that in me.

And for the rest of my life, that has been something that has stayed with me: is this idea of

you have a duty to become someone who not only can protect themselves, but can protect others.

Whether it's physically, emotionally, right?

You have to be strong enough emotionally for others, spiritually, or financially.

And that's been the mission of my life: I've always wanted to build a business where I could help people in those things, not only become who they're supposed to become, but become strong enough to defend themselves and protect themselves and their family, but also to stand up for others.

Because there's a lot of in this world, there's a lot of evil.

This is evil now.

The time is not set for the world, it is not set up for, I'm not going to say good people, but weak men.

That's right.

not say like there's anything wrong with uh you know a beta but you can't you there is something wrong with the beta you can't be well there are some actual betas that can actually fight you know so i give them that so i can't like blanket that but i'm just saying just in general the world is not set up men have to be tough yes they have to be tough and they want a world full of weak men that's why they keep trying to shut the boy up andrew andrew tate because he's actually teaching strength yes right he's not teaching he's not doing anything wrong he's just teaching how to be a strong man yes that's right and if you actually

that that word keeps spreading, he'll create a coalition, an army of strong, it'll be they can't overthrow.

And nothing could be more important.

And I hope and pray that I can spread

that message as well is because

we're talking about the pandemic.

Like the greatest pandemic of this world is weak men.

Weak men are the reason this.

Why do you think they want us weak?

Because we're easier to control.

Again, think about this.

Can you control, like, let's define beta, let's define alpha, right?

Because, you know, my, like, so it's funny, you know, I'm a dude who walks around the mola, and my name, nickname's the bull, right?

And after that day, you know, they stopped calling me the fat bull, started to call me the bull, and that's where that came from, right?

And they started a business called alpha, right?

Biggest douchebag you've ever heard of, right?

I mean, perfect definition, put me in the box, douchebag, right?

But you know what?

I don't fucking care.

Because if that word alpha offends you, then I know who you are.

You're offended by that word, got it.

Because an alpha is the only thing that can actually protect us.

An alpha is a protector, a provider, a leader.

And if you don't want, if you want to control a group of people, if you want to control a whole country or the world, get rid of the alphas.

Make alpha seem like it's something that is toxic, right?

Misogynistic.

Misogynistic, whatever it is, make the idea of alpha wrong.

And

I will die with this message of being an alpha is the most powerful thing you could ever do.

Owning the fact that you're an alpha is not something something like, oh, real alphas don't need to call themselves alphas.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're over that.

Okay, it's not Act 1980 anymore.

We're over that.

You see where this world is?

It's time to start declaring which side you're on.

I'm a alpha, which means you're not going to with those kids.

All

at the higher level, we need to get them.

We need to get to them.

We need to fight.

We need to get, you know, like actually unite and say no more, right?

Because there's, we talk about the kids and the

or let's talk about if you want to save the turtles, whatever you want to do, whatever evil you want to stop this world, you have to be an alpha to do it.

You cannot be a beta.

And a beta is someone who is a coward, who is weak, who hides, who is silent.

That's the keen word right there, silent.

Because cowards are silent.

Betas are silent, right?

And again, we could talk about like light versus dark.

When I went through that as a kid, I actually don't blame the kids so much who beat me up.

I blame the kids who watched because they allowed this to happen i actually blame you no you're right

i don't blame any i actually blame you

the reason why and the reason why i blame you is because that was a choice that you made to allow them i allowed it the day your pop said two words to you get out yes you go win you could have won already yeah you could have won a million times i was being a coward right and from every day forward you won yes so i kind of look at you is not as a victim but more of a participant in the bs because that's what you were.

You didn't know the power that you had.

You're 1,000% correct.

No, you're what I could not agree with.

You know that.

I know.

Dude, that's what my dad showed me.

I was being a baby.

I was being a little coward.

And he showed me, no, you're better than this.

You're stronger than this.

I'm going to show it.

And that's the power of a father, man, is that he can say, get the hell out and go be a man, right?

Go be a man and be strong.

And

that'll live with me to the day I die.

But also think about all the people who could could have done something, right?

Because let's be honest, there are people in situations who cannot help themselves.

Mostly kids.

The kids who are preyed upon by these, you know, like these kids can't help themselves.

But as we sit here and allow that to happen, guess whose fault it is?

It's ours.

Because the only thing necessary for evil to triumph in this world is for good men and women to do nothing.

It's just the act of doing nothing that allows this to happen.

Because if there's alphas, if there's stronger men like what you're talking about, what Andrew Tate talks about, if there's strong men who are willing to stand and fight, then the cowards, the wolves who prey on the sheep, they will cower.

They will run.

They will hide.

That's the nature of darkness and evil: it's a coward.

And the second it's faced with an alpha, with someone who's strong, with someone who can fight back, whether, again, whether it's financially, mentally, emotionally, in every aspect, if you're someone who can stand your ground, you're dangerous.

And it's dangerous men and women, by the way, it's dangerous people who are strong and who are alphas that are going to change the world, that are going to make this world a safer and better place.

I was telling Sean, we had this discussion.

I said, you have to be as good as you are good.

You have to be as evil as you are good.

Remember who was saying that you're telling me that you have to be, as you're a good person, you have to be that equal amount of evil.

You have to have.

You have to have some nastiness inside you.

You have to.

Dude, you want to talk about anger?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You believe you can manifest anger into positivity, right?

I believe anger is a tool.

I believe anyone who tells you not to be an angry person is someone who is trying to destroy your life because anger is a weapon.

Anger, I mean, let's talk again.

There's different types of anger, just like there's different, you know, topic conversations of ego, right?

But, like,

anger should be controlled, too.

I believe that anger should be controlled.

Anger

must be controlled, it must be sheathed like a sword, right?

Like any weapon, it must be under perfect control, but it must always be ready because anger dissolves shame God and again I'm very Christian I believe in God God exercises righteous anger so if God exercises anger then you should too yes against evil against things that you believe are wrong your anger is a tool right and what let's talk about like the greatest moments in any movie or in any hero's journey is the moment where they can't go on they're beat to their knees right they can't keep going they don't have anything left and then suddenly they summon something from deep within that gets them,

that infuses them with power that they didn't know they had.

And like, let's talk about the face they make and what their energy becomes in that moment when they're beat down.

You can't keep going.

You have no idea how you're going to survive.

And yet something in you calls to you and says, keep

going.

That is anger because the face you make in the sight of fear, in the face of failure, is anger.

It is summoning this piss and vinegar to say, yes, I fing can.

And that is the tool.

That is the moment to call it forward to say, we can do this.

Right.

And that's, again, but if your anger is out of control, then your anger controls you.

But just like any weapon, any virtue, you must have total control.

The opposite of control is chaos.

And if you are controlled by the anger, you live in chaos.

As opposed to being an alpha, as opposed to being a leader, as what we're talking about here, you are the one who creates the order, the control within the chaos.

As a man, as a woman, as an entrepreneur, it's chaos out there.

And my job is to create order, to create order as a man, as a woman, as an alpha.

I create the order.

to control the chaos.

And that's the whole point of stoicism.

That's the whole point of being a man, of fighting back against this chaos chaos and darkness is to actually be in control right and if you have control then you have power

power is control because power unloosed and out of control is chaos wow right

i could talk to this man for hours are we done already we're done man

this was fun man

we got to do a part two dude i'm down this was fun i appreciate you guys having me out sorry i talk so much no dude i mean it's a difference between talking too much and it kind of being a not a draw, but you actually, there's substance there.

There's, there's, yeah.

You can learn.

And what you were saying was very interesting.

Very powerful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Any closing comments, man?

Hopefully we don't get shadow banned, man.

We might, but we might.

But you know what's funny?

I'll just say this one last thing is, is if we get shadow banned, it's because we're speaking the truth.

Yeah.

And it's like, my words don't matter.

Like, I'm not the most articulate person, even though I've trained my life.

to be as articulate as possible.

It is so difficult to articulate your thoughts and feelings, but what we're feeling here in this room is truth.

Because if you speak truth, then it calls to your soul, it calls to the light within, and it speaks a different message to you, right?

And anyone listening to this, hearing this, if this calls to you, it's because we're speaking truth.

And that's a dangerous thing to the opposition.

That's a dangerous thing is for men and women.

I want to make sure we're also like, we're all together, men and women, to have the conversations of truth.

It's podcasts like this that spread that message that let everybody out there know that they're not alone.

Absolutely.

And it's when you feel alone, is when they get you.

But when we're united as one and you understand who you can become, that's the power that can shape the world.

Love it.

Zoan.

He's speechless, guys.

Oh, man.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Digital Social Hour.

I'll see you next time.

Peace.