The Best Dunker of All Time | Kadour Ziani Digital Social Hour #93

Welcome to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm joined with my guest today, Kedor Ziani.

How we doing?

I'm good.

You ready to go?

Let's go.

Let's do this.

Wow.

What an intro.

That's crazy.

Seven posture may only start like this.

So let's talk about the seven postures.

Seven posture.

Is that one of them?

Seven posture is no, it's not one of them.

Seven posture is all about the seat.

The seat, because in this in the industry, the fitness,

they are all about exercise.

And me, I'm like, I'm all about

how to rest.

After exercising, you need to rest, you need to recover.

And all my posture is all about

where are the spots to rest all your body, your tissue.

I bring up this table

to to to better to I mean for me, the best way my bifur to talk is to show, leading by example.

So I'm sitting on my bones.

My bones, they are like the one who are able in capacity to to support all my tissue.

So for me, resting means what?

It means

to give the opportunity to all my tissue to don't spend energy, to rest and to regenerate.

Right.

I mean for me you have three times before, during and after.

And before, during and after is means me are more about the before, before to exercise, joint mobilization.

the capacity to rest.

For me, this is the key.

If I have to question the fitness, I'm going to ask him, hey, when you sleep, are you

spending energy or

are you really resting?

Because your brain is still like, you know, working.

You are, I mean, for me, the best way to exercise is to stop thinking, to stop asking to the tissue to hold, to support all my muscle, all my tissue.

So I'm going to ask to the table, the bones, the skeleton, to sit on my bones.

That's the key.

When I start,

I was like sitting on

my big toe

is to really show that

the bones are the

it's like the throne.

I have like seven bones on my body,

seven bones.

One, two, three is like one, two, three, four,

five, six, and my head on the floor.

That's the capacity to close your body going to allow you to open.

So, for me, it's all about

this ability to rest, to recover, to really give the opportunity to all your tissue.

The full recovery, because it's like fasting, you know, when you stop moving,

you are in

you are in automatic mode.

The body is going to regenerate, you're going to be refreshed, you're you're going to reload, you're going to charge up, you're going to reborn, you're going to be like, okay, I can sleep.

Sleeping like death, the small deaths, like the sleeping, you shut everything.

No lights, no brains, working, nothing, you know?

Because for me,

you need to maintain your potential, you need to maintain your functionalities, you need to maintain everything.

After exercising, you need to honor those who honored you.

You exercise, no, it's time to sleep.

And the only way to sleep is like, you know, I'm going to give you an example.

The donkey is sleeping in his four feet.

He's not using muscle to stay up and to sleep.

He's using the bones.

They don't lie down?

No.

Wow.

They are not bending.

It means what?

It means if you use the bones to really rest, all my posture, like this posture, you know, I'm like sleeping on my what?

On my bones?

Fibula here, fibula here.

So I'm like resting.

All my tissue, they are like, muscle, they are like really resting.

So how do you sleep at night?

What's your posture at night?

My posture at night is sleep like this on the side.

On the side?

On my bones here, on my bones, here, here,

and on my bone, my head.

And you're on the floor or you have a bed?

On the floor.

Okay.

On the floor, you know.

I grew up like this, you know.

And when I really, when I sleep like this, I really shut everything shut down.

I mean, close the light, close the energy, no more activation.

So it's like automatic mode.

You have manual, when the brain is working, it's like, you know, it's like doing the job.

But when you sleep, your brain

is not doing the job for your heart to boom, you know, to deactivate, you know.

So

this automatic mode, that's the mode I want for all athletes, world-class athlete, million-dollar athlete, or even people like most, I mean, simple people, you know, they need to really rest.

Six hours sleeping, six hours exercising, because regenerative mode is an exercise.

That's the exercise.

That's crazy.

Because the more you rest,

more you can train.

You recover.

You regenerate.

You fresh.

I mean, you wake up like you reborn.

I mean,

the small death, this rest is like when you sit on your bones, seven posture is like seven doors, seven spots where you can

relax and hey, stop to think.

Please.

You know, put your brain on the floor and stop.

Right.

And that's for me is the key.

That's a possibility.

So you have the world record for the highest kick.

You also have a 56-inch vertical jump.

How were you able to train your body to do that?

Did it take years?

Life, because I call it social tissue adaptation.

For me, my life is like...

Every single second is an opportunity to question, is an opportunity for me to train

to don't waste the time.

For me, the first enemy enemy is the wasting time time you need to turn it like your friend you need to take advantage of each second like each second is a way to to learn to to take advantage of it to use it and for me i grew up like this this crazy curiosity to to make like this you know quantity for me i mean the quantity for me it's like the pennies that you add up to the dollar of quality.

It's meant the all those questions that you're going to add up, that's going to give you information of quality.

You know, so it means every time you do a seven posture, it's like seven questions.

You seven, you question your two ankles, you question your knee, you question your hands.

You know, whenever when I say

put all your body on your bones, it's like you know, I put, you see, my hands, I put all my body on the bones, so I don't activate.

Wow, that's crazy.

So I can know for me,

I'm deactivating muscle, you know, I'm sitting on those bones, like I'm sitting on the, on my big toe.

You know?

Wow.

This is why, you know, when you have this capacity to rest and to rest on your big toes, to sleep on your big toes, to die.

I mean, you are like killing yourself from all this wasting energy.

Wasting is the enemy.

Wasting energy is the enemy.

When you sleep, you need to stop using energy.

So when you sleep on

the table, the bones, the skeleton, you're gonna rest.

And you're gonna fully, you're gonna be on,

you know, like this,

like the heart is like a survival mechanism.

You know, you don't need to ask your heart to boom.

You know, it's like all the survival system you have inside.

That's gonna be like regenerative automatic way to recover.

Wow.

So how do you sit down normally when you're at home?

My home, I'm sit like this.

I change.

This is the position.

I call it the camo, I call it the reload.

Reload is like recharge.

Each time when you use the, I mean, the floor to rest, is that I mean, you are not resting, you are like recharging, charge up, you know.

And I call it

reload because in the desert, my family, I'm coming from

Arabic, the berber, you know,

in the desert, they sit like this, they eat like this, that's the position to eat.

You know, they sit like this because, you know, in the desert, you have like all those animals, scorpions and snakes, so you need to get up.

You need to,

you know, I call it you know, I call it also the you attach your camo, it means you have this capacity to

put your knee on your chest, this flexibility we need to get up, you know.

And you know, all those postures, those postures, they are like primal posture, ancestral posture.

They related to Stone Ages, you know.

People, they were like sitting like this.

You know, you see, when you have, if you have a baby, you can see all those kids on the floor.

The floor life, they have

returned to the floor because the energy comes from the floor.

And when I say

you don't need to ask your body to create energy, to generate energy, the floor is the energy.

You need to absorb energy.

So, means what?

Means

don't be smart to create energy just put your body on the floor absorb it grounding and ground it right that's the secret is the ground the floor is the mirror you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna have your face you're gonna see yourself on the you're gonna tell about you right you're gonna let the body talk don't talk instead of the body so when you put your bones on the table, on the floor,

you're gonna have like you're gonna build up internal language.

The body will tell and don't tell instead, don't talk instead of the body.

The body knows everything.

This is the book.

This is the this is Vegas inside, you know, this is the bank, this is the church, this is the kingdom, this is the throne, seven throne when I can sit, seven throne, two ankles, two knee, two hands, and my head, you know, right.

Because it's like this, you know.

You see, the modern world, it's a lot of information about about

how to exercise, but how to rest.

How to rest.

I mean, no one teaches that.

No.

Yeah.

And for me, the seventh posture, it was a really simple posture.

You know,

when I start, my first posture is like you are on the bed.

This is the first posture.

As soon as you are on the bed, you do like this.

And you

do seflection of the toes.

You know, you do this.

And then you do it like this, wake up.

I mean, it's like a body awakening, a body checkup as soon as you wake up, and then you go with the cow.

The cow, the second posture, like this.

And then you have

the frog.

The frog is like this.

And then you have the camo, like this.

Camo.

See?

And then the camo, you have the dossifection of toes, the grasshopper.

You know, this is the key.

That looks painful.

The missing link.

Wow.

Because you know,

in the game industry, the fitness industry, in the locomotion industry, they are talking about three triple flexion.

One, two, three.

But they forgot about this.

The foot.

The big toe.

Oh, the toe.

The big toe.

The alux, the first digit.

They call it the first digit, the alux.

That's the key.

Really?

The goal.

Because with this, you unlock all your knee.

Because from this, you're going to activate.

you're going to unlock the peroneus language, this tibia.

You know, you're going to,

you're going to activate, lock up the quad, lock up the soleus, tibialis, and this is the key for the game performance.

Wow.

And this is,

because, you know, what's, you know, what's funny, you know, I was like in Utah in the All-Star weekend, and I met Gary Rivi, you know, and I show him my book, and I say, amen.

I am the mentor of Ben Patrick Niso Toz, because he knows him.

I was like, oh, really?

Oh, man.

And I gave him the book, and I say,

I'm a master of fascia.

He said, really?

Me too.

I like fascia.

I'm doing.

I say, woo, what?

I say, let's go.

So we got up on the floor and I showed him like the, this, you know, this movement of,

you know, this movement.

I show him this.

Right.

And he did it.

Wow.

He's a fucking drugstore.

He's a master of fascia.

Wow.

And he was like, man, I got you, man.

And then I was like, okay, Gary, let's go.

We go outside.

I put the ball on the basket, basket, on the hoop bus.

My friend from LA,

they drive the hoop bus over there.

My people from LA, Nick, Anson, and I kicked the ball out of the rim, you know, and he was like, fuck, animal, man.

You know, Gary, you know?

He pumped me like, I can tell, man.

That's awesome.

He's also...

a fascia driven fascia master, you know, fascia driven master because you know he know, about you know, this connective tissue.

I mean, the particularity of the fascia, you know, it's new, you know, it's five years ago, they now all they are like talking about the fascia.

Fascia is all those

connective tissue, right?

I mean, you this is why, you know, you see Gary like talking, like blah, blah, blah, like no, no wasting energy, it's like

7G all over the place.

Me, I'm seven posture, me, him, is like 7G.

I mean, it's like

very quick, fast, and super high definition of connection, you know, like

yeah.

But the body is related because I saw, I was like, oh, you about the fascia?

Okay, let's let's perform.

And he showed me some stuff, like, okay.

I'm impressed.

You know, because you know, about the body have to sweat the knowledge.

The body have to produce this connective tissue.

And we send information, it's like the big toe until the here, from the ground to the head.

That has to be like really fast.

And he got it.

So I was like man you you are master man yeah that's that's insane he's almost 60.

what do you think of yoga you think it's overrated no no yoga is cool because it's it's a first step to man everything related to the floor I approve okay you know and it's not enough because after yoga is you need to know how to move and not only on the floor in the air you know and also exercise because me I'm like preparing people to exercise more joint mobilization connection connective tissue you know like these people they are like thinking like a chain kinetic chain you know and

after

man hey after exercise use it use it for what play soccer dunk the ball dance I don't know you know but yoga is not for me is like it's a first step to then add more stuff, you know, that's connective tissue and also to have to build up this relation, internal internal relation with your body.

This is the key.

Talk to your body.

Respect your body.

Please, we are all talking about love.

Can you love your respect your body and give him like some time to rest and to listen?

Can you listen to him?

Hey, put your brain on the floor, on the side, and can you let it talk?

And you know, yoga is about this.

So I'm...

But it's not enough, man.

I want to push it more because I want high performance.

When you have all those, you build up all those connective tissue, you build up this super crazy connection, hey, it's time to kick the ball, it's time to jump, it's time, you know, to, because you become like a master because you achieve the domination,

you know your body, and then the mastery.

You use it like crazy because the body is perfect.

This is the book.

Read it.

Read it.

This is the book.

You don't have nothing to write.

except rather to read.

So you have everything.

This is the crazy equipment.

I was in a podcast with Mark Bell.

I told him, man, you have a super crazy gym that's amazing, but the gym is in here.

He said that, that, yeah, I know, Kador, the gym is in here.

Because

everything is a way to help this super equipment.

And we messed up because you use the equipment to exercise,

but you don't respect him, you don't give him food to rest, you don't give him the floor to rest,

you don't try to see, to ask if he have like,

I mean, maybe problem, you know, if he's stiff, if he's, you know,

we don't respect, I mean, respect for me is like ask the permission, control, I mean, body, I mean self-diagnostic, ask the permission to your body, seven posture is a seven question.

Question your knee, question your ankle, question your knee, question your hands, and question your upper body.

Right.

That's the key.

And in the fitness, what we need is like this intellectual honesty humbly i'm sitting here you know on the floor right like a king because this is the throne

that's the kingdom when you become a master you're gonna sit on your own throne

you're gonna sit on

you know on this on the floor

i mean the floor yeah that's the energy that's awesome how can someone fix poor posture because I slouch a lot I have scoliosis and I slouch a lot so how can people fix poor back posture?

You know, the most important is to try, die trying.

Step, small step, microdose, go on the floor, try.

Know who you are first.

The floor is a way to know who you are.

Then try to become better day by day, you know, managing the signal of pain.

If you can, you know, because you know, if you have like

bad functionality,

just try to make, don't make it worse.

So go to the floor and try try to maintain your level and maybe make it better, you know, but step by step, slow it down, slow it down, slow process, calm down, micro dose.

I'm like 10 seconds in what one posture, 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 10 seconds, and every day.

Because what the key is what?

Repetition.

You know, in my philosophy, it's really simple.

We have two.

two soldiers time first is the time because you know by the time we're all gonna die That's the only one certitude, certain that

no one can deny.

We're gonna die.

Death only happened to those who have lived.

So it means what?

Time provide.

Use the time to build up patience.

That's the two soldier.

Time and patience.

That's the two soldier you have.

Everybody have this.

They have two tools: repetition, self-discipline and repetition.

So by self-discipline, every day, every single day, micro-dose.

Not too much, you know, don't try to break your soul, you know, be like this to your soul, you know, micro-dose.

Right.

Self-discipline every day.

Five times a day, seven times a day, twenty times a day, micro-dose.

Everywhere.

No equipment, you are the equipment.

So self-discipline, micro-dose,

repetition,

and you're going to have like what?

You're going to...

achieve, be close to two drives, domination and mastery.

Domination meant by repeating every day, you're gonna start to understand, you're gonna start to know.

So, you're gonna start to, because when you understand, you're gonna master your emotion, you're gonna master your body, you're gonna control it better, you're gonna use it better.

So, two drives: domination and mastery.

Be the master, be the king of this, drive it good, you know?

Right.

So, it means what?

When you have

everybody have no excuse, everybody have two soldiers, soldiers.

Everybody have two tools.

Everybody have two drives.

And the only one direction is you.

So you were able to achieve a 56-inch vertical without any gym equipment, just your own body?

See, yes, my body equipment.

Wow, because most people are squatting, they're deadlifting.

My body equipment, my body is my own.

I lift my own problem.

I lift my own gravity.

It's enough for me.

So you did plyometrics?

Yeah, plyometric, isometric, you know, concentric, eccentric, you know, I do all those, you know, overcoming, like Bruce Lee, like this, you know, the six second L sit, like this, you know?

Six second L C

O sit.

This is overcoming isometric.

It's like you have like, you go after the brain.

The brain say, hey, hey, hey, stop, I can't.

You, you go, you go, you go further.

You control your brain.

And you don't cause too much damage into your f fibron muscle fibers.

And this is like crazy because you can do microdose like small six-second, six-second, six-second.

And I built up like seven postures, like this, micro-dosing,

I mean, like maintaining, withholding some weight, kettle belt, you know, and I did all that shit.

Simple stuff.

Those postures, they are like really simple.

You don't have, you don't risk damage.

So, all those million-dollar athletes, they can see if they have like the capacity to close

and then the capacity to explode, to generate energy.

So, me, I'm like, mobility for me is not like to stretch.

No, mobility is to close.

Close like this, you know, to bend everything, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Like a seed, like fatal reverse.

I call it fatal reverse, this frog.

Fatal reverse.

I mean, when you are like this, you have like self-diagnosis, you're going to question your body.

This is the position to question, question the ankle, question the knee, question the hip.

You know, every day you need to question

seven questions every day.

You, you, and you do.

So I achieve six.

I put my neck on the rim, you know, and I kick the rim.

So I put my foot on the rim.

It's like 10 feet.

Yeah, you're the only one I know that could do that.

You could kick the rim.

I can kick the rim.

I can kick the dream.

Because

anything is possible.

Yeah.

You know, I'm 49.

Three years ago, I rupture.

I fully repture my acid tandem.

Grand zero.

Thank you.

That's not the ground zero.

That's the ground alpha and omega.

You know, the table.

All you can do.

This is the floor.

The floor is the energy.

We come from the floor, I'm gonna get back on the floor, I'm gonna work on it.

Wow, so you tore your Achilles, you said?

Wow.

How did you do that?

I slept on the floor, I slept.

And me,

you know, when I start,

I'm using so much energy because I'm pushing with orange.

You see my big toe?

I pushing with this, you know.

This is the grass shopper.

Still, we do the podcast.

I'm like in glass chopper because I'm working on mine.

And this allowed me to restore by myself my Achilles.

Wow, so you didn't need surgery?

No.

See, yeah,

I got surgery.

And then the reab, I do all my posture every day on the floor.

Wow.

And that was a crazy opportunity for me to say, okay, that's the kiss of death.

When you have this injury, Achilles, yeah.

That's the worst one, right?

I was 46.

Yeah.

Kobe Bryan had that one.

Yeah.

And when you get this at 46, and now look at what I'm doing.

Wow.

You see?

And you're still dunking at 49.

I've still seen dunking.

I'm barefoot.

I I'm still dunking on the floor.

I like no one between me and the floor, you know?

Yeah.

Dude, it's been a pleasure, man.

Any closing thoughts or where people can find out more about you?

Man, that's the only thing I want to put on the table.

Seven posture.

The only way for me to

have people to shield the longevity, to know their body, to have this close relation and to

feel happy everywhere, to feel, I mean, liberate.

You know, you have everything.

Unlock it.

Unlock your understanding.

You are not poor.

You are not left behind.

You know, love yourself.

You know, go to the floor.

You don't have nothing.

Like me, you have everything.

The book is here.

Read it.

Amazing.

Kador, it's been a pleasure.

I love talking to you today.

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