Cancer Expert Reveals How to Prevent Cancer | Dr Issels Digital Social Hour #82

So, you're against chemotherapy?

Yeah, I'm not for it.

No, because basically it's it is toxic.

So, what's the difference between your natural medicine and Western medicine culture?

Western medicine, you come to see a doctor, you have a you know, I have a headache.

You're gonna treat the headache, you give me an aspirin.

The way I approach is, okay, you have a headache, yeah, that's we treat that headache, but why do you have it?

Then we learned that our water is bad.

Well, it depends where you would get the water source, as long as the water is not hungry.

Because anytime you have water that's distilled, it has no minerals, so therefore it becomes hungry, so it takes the nutrients out of your body and you drink it so distilled water is bad for you

wow

all right welcome to the digital social hour i'm your host sean kelly i'm here with my co-host wayne lewis what up what up and our guest today, Dr.

Isles.

How are we doing?

How are you doing?

Good, man.

Just played in the poker tournament.

Yeah, good, lucky.

You got some game.

Yeah, I should have done it.

You've been playing for what, like three hours?

Yeah, about it.

You made it far, man.

Yeah, man.

It's probably the fifth time I played poker.

Wow.

You did.

You did well.

I'd love to for you to tell everyone what you do.

I'm a net-traffic doctor.

I use natural therapies.

to treat disease processes, cancer, chronic, you know, chronic fatigue,

allergies, colds, um

long covet things like that what's long covet basically on covet is when you know people have the covet virus and they get covet and after a period of time they start feeling sick weakened fatigue starting issues and that means a breakdown of the body system function what about the residual like the

granted you might have that might be it but like

I know someone who's suffering from like

post-COVID is what they're called.

Yeah, it's long COVID.

That's the same thing.

It's been like a year, though.

What?

Up to two years.

It's basically side effects of the COVID virus are still present.

And if they're not...

But how can a sickness have a side effect?

What do you mean?

A lot of side effects.

How can a sickness have a more so that's in medication, right?

Well, no, look at side effects.

Look at the common cold, runny nose, right?

It's a side effect of the cold.

You know, or those things are the side effects.

Gotcha.

Basically, what the disease causes.

So Wayne has terrible allergies.

What advice would you recommend him?

What type of, you know, when are your allergies?

Are they mostly in

it depends?

So I kind of, yeah, I kind of,

so right now I have a regimen where I blow my nose, obviously.

Direct air in my nose activates

different places.

So I'll be kind of cautious on traveling.

Right.

Like I miss out on a lot of different events just because I don't want to be miserable while I'm there.

Right.

So I'm just kind of cautious on like traveling and and stuff like that because my nasal cavity is like closed.

They don't just like, you know, people have flare-ups and they sneeze.

Mine, I can't breathe at all.

There's no like air in or air out.

It's just like just your nose or also

your throat as well.

It's mostly the nose or is it?

Yeah, it's mostly here.

It's mostly here.

So, you know, stick with kind of doing the antibiotics and steroids.

And they always recommend surgery.

That's.

I mean, do you have polyps?

What is that?

Basically, groves

in the sinus, which kind of block the airflow.

like a little you know it's almost like a little wart

inside you know inside nasal passages which can cause okay so would that be a flare-up though would you want to experience that like no that wouldn't be a basic that's something you have chronic it'll be constant yeah no no i don't have it okay when you have a when do you have a flare-up

um

man it varies it's like put it like this when i don't have one i'm excited cool okay so often yeah yeah so you know a lot of things there you know stress can cause a flare-up uh wine i just wine because because it has histamine

that's crazy you know that I didn't know that wine

there's a thing called

it's a product can I mention products here yeah

one's called dehist it's a very very effective for allergies another thing that's good for allergies would be NAC NACL cysteine but that does it fins the mucus it reduces swelling

Another thing is by you know taking bicarbonate like you know take some

soda water and then like making soda, mix it up in water and drink it just when you have a reaction to it.

It kind of slows it down quite a bit.

What about when you're not having flare-ups?

Like, what's the preventative measure?

Well, that's like when I'm having a good day, right?

What should I do day in and day out to keep having good days?

Reduce the stress.

Okay.

Don't drink the wine.

Don't eat like any junk food, like any type of sausages, hot dogs, anything which has sulfates in it.

Reduce that.

But stress is a big one.

And secondly, another thing is that there's a a big connection between allergies and digestion.

If you have a bad digestive tract, you'll be likely to be allergic to other things.

Foods can do it too.

And you can have running those from foods.

Like you said, the wine gets you.

Wine gets me.

And I found that out because

the doctor asked me, he said, how often do you drink wine?

I'm like, you know,

I buy wine.

It's in the refrigerator.

He said, well, that could be the cause of it.

I'm like, I'm allergic to wine.

He said, no, it has a histamine in it.

Lo and behold, I looked it up.

Wine has a histamine in it.

So what that does is there's an inihistamine and then there's a histamine.

So, there's a counter-reaction that your body has to it.

So, it creates allergies.

So, you have to take a claritin before drinking wine.

Interesting.

But, you know, the one thing you drink the wine, and if you know, and you go troubles down your esophagus into your stomach.

And if you have a good barrier function in your gut, that would not cause an issue for you.

But if you have a bad barrier function, you know, the idea is like having like your three different barriers.

You have the mucous membranes,

you have the skin, and GI tract.

All these are barriers that keep bad things out of your body.

If those areas are you know weakened, things will enter your body and cause an allergic response to it.

So, to really fix that issue is by actually fixing the barrier functions.

And the things to do that would be: number one, using digestive enzymes, using fish oils, and a good multivitamin, and help you, you know, and help you digest.

You say vitamin D?

No, uh,

fish oils,

fish oils,

um, multivitamins, yes.

I take fish oils daily, omega-3, right?

Yeah, how many milligrams do you take?

It's the two.

I don't know how many milligrams.

It's two of the biggest.

But are you buying yours from like a normal store?

Or do you get them from Amazon?

I want to know where to get the actual good vitamins at, not like the generic stuff that they sell.

Well, you probably have to go to...

Western Nordic is very good.

I'm not sure you can get it on Amazon, but you looked at

Western Nordic.

Western Nordic?

Yeah, they have a very good fish oil.

Okay.

Another thing is a good place to buy would be Whole Foods as well.

Whole Foods.

And we have it.

So what's the difference between your natural medicine and Western medicine culture?

Well, basically, our approach is different.

I mean, you have Western medicine, you come to see a doctor, you have a, you know, I have a headache.

You're going to treat the headache.

Okay, you have a headache.

Let's give you an aspirin.

The way I approach is, okay, you have a headache.

Yeah, we treat that headache, but why do you have it?

What caused the headache to occur?

What are the reasons?

I mean, are you highly stressed?

Are you allergic to things?

Are you having a bug?

Are you having an infection?

I mean, what's causing you headache does it flare up

are you dehydrated i found that out of that too dehydration back pain is and dehydration is huge back pain oh back pain if you don't drink enough fluid serious yeah wow i have a lot of back pain if you if you don't drink enough

so he then we learned that our water is bad that we're drinking like i'm drinking a lot of water he he drinks a lot of water but then that water is not good enough we have to make it mineral water by putting himalayan salt in there right well it depends where you get the water source I mean, if you go, for example, you go to

Whole Foods and get yourself, you know, some of those pH balance waters, they're fine.

As long as the water is not hungry, because anytime you have water that is distilled, it has no nutrients in it, no minerals.

So, therefore, it becomes hungry.

So, it takes the nutrients out of your body and you drink it.

So, distilled water is bad for you to drink it.

Wow.

My car only takes distilled water.

Really?

Yeah, my sports car only could put distilled water in there.

Wow.

but I want to make it dry.

Are you a fan of mushrooms?

Yes, I do like mushrooms.

Mushrooms are really very effectively to build up the immune system.

So, why has this been like this negative stigma and like taboo when it came to mushrooms?

It's really, they taught us in school that it was like bad for you.

Like, don't take mushrooms.

It was something that they have, they have different components which are very strong immune boosting, help natural killer function, helps immune response.

But then you also have the magic mushrooms, the psilocybins.

Those are different.

Oh, those are different.

Yeah, there's actually immune mushrooms like shiitake, turkey tail.

You can take those and they build immune function up and fight cancer.

But then you have the psilocybins, which are the ones which kind of make you a little high.

But okay, so what purpose does the psilocybins have?

Well, they can relax you.

Another part what they do is they actually have a really great way to calm down your nervous system.

And when you take those psilocybin drugs, the mushrooms, you actually want to clear up your life because they change the brain chemistry in a positive manner.

So it's suddenly, instead of being, being you know people get high they kind of get really tired the next day they don't do anything right but when you take psilocybin you actually want to clean up the house and do something proactive because it really psilocybins are good too yeah they're very good if you're not curative but you know of course you don't want to be high all the time

so how can someone with a family history of cancer prevent getting cancer Well, number one,

the idea is what caused the cancer?

You know, in the family, is it related to genetics?

You know, is it related to, for example, sometimes chronic viral infection can cause cancer, like Epstein-Barr, cellular virus, and it can cause an immune suppression.

And once that occurs, the immune system no longer pays attention to the tissue, you know, for example, breast cancer or colon cancer or prostate cancer, doesn't pay attention to the area.

So therefore, whatever goes on that area is not going to be surveilled by the immune system.

And

that can cause the cancer to grow.

You know, when you look at cancer patients, the most common thing I hear is, doctor, doctor, you know,

I haven't had a cold in 10 years,

you know, and now I have cancer.

How's that possible?

And the answer to that is it's the immune system so that it's weak, it's unfocused.

So it doesn't pay attention where it needs to go.

And those things can be caused by viral infection, could be related to bad diet,

high stress.

whatever inhibits the immune function or whatever distracts the immune function is a problem.

Oh, so you can still not be sick, but you can have a bad immune system.

Yeah.

And not still not ever get sick.

Well, no, the immune system, it's not bad.

It's not focused on the cancer.

Oh, it's not focused on cancer.

Basically, you don't, if you get exposed to the common cold, you'll be fine.

But then the area where the person gets the cancer, like for example, prostate cancer, that area is no longer surveilled properly.

Yeah.

So therefore, it can go there.

And then the body says, it's totally fine here.

I'm not worried about it.

I'm not paying attention to the prostate.

So whatever goes on the prostate, it's not going to be surveilled.

And the immune system does take care of in every other part of the body, but I don't take part of that area of concern because I'm never sick, so but that's interesting that you say that the body can the immune system can be focused.

Well, you know, think about this like the armed services, you have you know, you have the navy, you got the uh air force, and you got what else, the army, right?

Military, you got the

marine,

but then you have subgroups, then you have you know the navy has the marines, the navy, you know, the you know, and then the then the uh other, the Army has the Rangers.

See, each immune system has different parts to have different parts to do a different job.

Yeah.

And whatever job

is not working out right can cause a problem.

That makes sense.

What about food-wise?

So what foods are linked to preventing cancer and what foods are linked to causing cancer?

Well, the most thing to take without

bread cancer is using a low carbohydrate diet, low carbohydrates.

A lot of greens.

Like I said, mushrooms, like eating mushrooms would be very beneficial.

Eating organic meats, that'd be beneficial.

You know, you can take a good multivitamin, of course.

Beets.

Beets are very good.

That's a good call.

Beets.

Yeah, there's a guy here.

He makes beets juice.

It's disgusting, but his wife beats stage four cancer.

Just by drinking that?

Yeah.

Well, the green juices, too.

I mean, he wouldn't let her go to the doctor.

Carrot juice, green, you know, celery.

He said carrots, too.

Carrots.

Again, you got to be careful of carrots, depending on the blood type.

If you, if you're in O,

you know, carrots are not going to work for you.

If you in A, they will work for you.

Wow.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

And then what foods cause cancer?

Well, high sugar, like processed foods.

You know, you know, so unnatural foods.

Correct.

Well, anything that's processed, you know, and eat, you know, donuts, hot dogs,

things like that.

I see donuts a lot.

And then can you treat cancer naturally?

Yeah.

If you have like stage three or stage four?

We can definitely treat naturally.

I mean, you may not get,

I mean, a cure from that, but you can treat and support the immune system so it can have actually have a good outcome.

And then you can actually take that another step where you would take it to, for example, what we offer.

We have actually

cell fare that we do in Mexico.

And we use the natural killer cells, dendritic cells, and

T cells.

We take another patient's bloodstream, activate and reinject them as a treatment.

Wow.

That really takes their own immune system and activates to fight the cancer.

Wow.

So you're against chemotherapy.

Yeah, I'm not for it.

No, because basically it is toxic.

Yeah, you're poisoning your body, right?

Right.

And you take something which is toxic and which damages your body and hope it the damage is not as severe.

I mean, the cancer damage would be more severe than your body's system damage.

So what should me and Sean be doing daily to be proactive about

preventing cancer?

Like what should we be drinking?

Well, I drink, you know,

how much much water do you drink a day?

I don't feel like I drink enough some days.

Other days I feel like I can overindulge, but I usually grab a water before I will anything else or some kind of drink that has little to no share.

Water is important, and I would definitely, you know, make sure you do not avoid carbohydrates.

Avoid carbohydrates.

Yeah, because think about carbohydrates, it's kind of like

it's a very corrosive substance.

And if you pick people up with diabetes, what do you hear about diabetes?

You see, people have circulation issues in the the legs the blood vessels get you know hardened the nerves gets gets damaged it's inflammatory it's like rusting my body rust

and what it also does it causes your stress levels to go up as well I mean stress is the biggest issue with immune function

and what people don't really are not aware of is that when you eat a banana

and you take the banana in straight straight it goes right in your bloodstream and causes a sugar spike inside your body.

So your body has to use insulin to

get the sugar level down.

Then it goes, but it goes because it's a very rapid spike.

It took a, you know, so it's going to be a rapid response.

So the insulin is going to get kicked in, gonna drop.

So the sugar is going to drop.

But it almost says, oh my God, I have low blood sugar now.

I need to have sugar.

Then it goes to the adrenals, tells the adrenals to go to the liver to make more sugar.

And that kind of experience is like running from the tiger.

And every time you eat carbohydrates in large amounts, that will repeat itself.

So don't eat the banana?

Well, you don't eat the banana directly you want to you want to combine the banana with some type of protein or some type of wow i always eat bananas directly yeah i actually like bananas bananas are good but again you make sure you don't eat it by itself so so what so what protein should you eat a banana with well i would say probably you can do it with um almonds almonds

you can put some almond butter on there um

you can probably eat it eat a bit you know banana eggs wouldn't really work but i mean anything any type of protein protein powder would work as well as long as you, the idea is when you take carbohydrates into your system, you want to make sure the sugar, the level doesn't spike like this.

Oh, so you want to have a level of sugar going up through time so it doesn't spike because what happens is when sugar spikes, the cell that uses most of the sugar, like the cancer cell will use it up more effectively.

Oh, so basically eat a donut with chicken, right?

In a sense, waffle and chicken instead of chicken.

Wow, that's a good tip because I'm going to stop eating bananas plain now.

So basically, you want to have a protein along with it.

If you're going to eat a car, make sure you eat a protein with it.

So if I eat a donut, make sure I have a baked salmon in eating it with the dinner.

Well, a baked salmon.

It's kind of gross.

Well, I would recommend that.

You wouldn't?

No, not salmon, but donut.

I think the donut he wouldn't recommend.

No, yeah, in general.

Yeah, but the salmon and the donut would be just.

How important is eating organic?

Very important.

Do you only eat organic?

Most of the time.

You cannot do it all the time, but I try to.

Wow, because that's expensive, right?

It is expensive, but think about this.

If you look at the food source, I mean, whatever you take in, you will absorb it.

It's like eating, like having a good feel for the car.

So if you have a good source of protein, like, for example, organic meats are very important.

You know, organic chicken, what happens with organic chickens is that those chickens are not inflammatory.

Regular meats are inflammatory.

but they have a combination of omega-6, omega-3, omega-9 to make it less inflammatory.

And if you look at the eggs when you eat eggs, if the yolks are really, you know, well, these days you can tell because people can fake it.

But in general, the egg yolks are very yellow, means they're really, really healthy.

Really?

But organic meats are important.

Of course, you want to eat organic, you know, vegetables if you can.

Because anytime you take additional pesticides into your body, it will cause some damage.

And then the body has to process those pesticides through the liver and it can cause liver stress.

So organic vegetables don't use pesticides they no they don't but regular vegetables do yes they do yeah interesting well well also pesticides and herbicides to make sure they don't have i mean they use they use a lot of chemicals to allow them to grow fast but

so diet wise what is your diet like are you a paleo i actually i'm i'm most more of a carnivore carnivore so you eat a lot of proteins only meat mostly meat yeah oh bro and you don't have any constipation issues from that no

interesting Well, again, you know, I mean, the constipation comes from the combination of different processed foods.

I mean, you know, there's a lot of times, for example, if you

one example,

look at this.

If you eat a how do you meet a yeeky meat?

How do you normally eat it?

Medium.

Have you ever tried a medium rare?

Yeah, it's too bloody for me, but yeah, I've tried it.

Okay, so when you, you know, when you usually when you eat a piece of meat, which is medium or well done, it takes a longer time to digest.

Really?

Because they're in the rarer meats have more digestive, have more enzymes present inside the meat.

So, for example, you ever eat sushi?

Yeah.

When you eat sushi, how long does the food stay in your belly?

Like after two hours, you feel like you can eat again, right?

Right.

Yeah, and the food is alive.

Not really alive, but it's not processed.

Wow.

So the enzymes are still present in the fish, so the digestive tract can do it much, much faster.

Wow.

So the more alive the food is, the easiest your body to digest.

Yeah, it's easier to assimilate.

So the blood in the meat, eating bloody meat, is actually a a good thing.

Yeah, as long as it's well taken care of.

I mean, make sure you have a good source.

I mean, even

can't see myself

eating fish.

Do you eat fish?

I'm a pescatarian.

You eat sushi?

Yes.

So you eat raw fish?

Yeah.

I eat raw fish, but not raw meat.

I can't eat it.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily have to do it raw.

I mean,

but again, you know, I mean, the best, I mean, the best way to tell if you eat something and it takes when you look at the picture of digestion in general, if it takes more than two hours to get rid of your belly,

it's not working for you.

Wow.

So if you eat a meal and you feel it in your belly two hours later, it's either, number one, you don't have enough digestive enzymes, it was over-processed,

or you have a reaction to it.

But it should not stay in your belly for that long.

Are there natural ways to prevent Alzheimer's?

Yeah, I mean, it's the key thing is getting a good fatty diet.

Because, you

you have a lot of fish or fatty acids because that's basically helps with

the neurons.

And then also you make sure you don't eat a lot of, you know, don't have too much

metals, heavy metals in your system.

Right.

And

one more thing.

And you just support your nervous system function.

So you believe a lot of disease is caused by diet?

Most of them, I believe.

Well, a lot of diseases, it's multifactorial.

I mean, you know, diet is important.

You know, life, I mean, again, you know, what do you do for your living is important?

But there are some people, doc, that I see have terrible lifestyles and they can live until

I was going to get to that.

Like, they're made of like rock or something.

Well, I mean, there's also, you also have to think genetics, too.

You know, if you have very good genetics, you can live very poorly and have a long lifespan.

That's because your body's strong.

Well, you have a good, well, your body has a lot of, has proper processing.

Okay.

And

if you don't have good genetics, you're going to live very very cleanly.

So if you know, so you have people, you have people, you know, there's this diagram, you know, it's hard to do life like this, but basically it's a triangle.

And if you know, one side, you know, the upper level of the triangle tells you, okay, this is lifestyle.

Sorry, it's genetics.

Yeah.

And then the other one is diet.

Right.

And if you so if you have a you have a good genetic background, you can have a very poor lifestyle lifestyle and live a long time

But if you have a very I mean

very bad genetics

You have to have a very good good lifestyle to survive, right?

You know, that's why some people and they you know hit a certain age group, you know, they get sick.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I know some guys that are probably younger than me and Sean both and sick already and look old and they're just you know I used to get sick every month because I didn't take care of my body.

Yeah, I mean so diet definitely plays a huge role.

And it's easy too.

I I mean, easy to fix.

I mean,

you don't have to go see a doctor, so you just

yeah, I didn't know I was allergic to most carbs, so I was eating that my whole life and getting sick from it.

Most people are allergic to carbs, yeah.

I'm allergic to fortified and enriched carbs.

So, so what do you do for it?

I just avoid it now.

Yeah, you take digestive enzymes, I take a probiotic, yeah.

Oh, no, digestive enzymes.

No, what is that?

Basic is something you take to help you digest the food.

Probiotic

gives you the flora of a healthy gut, but digestive enzymes give you digestive enzymes to break down the food properly.

Got it, yeah.

I try to avoid it completely.

That makes sense.

Yeah, that's true.

So why do you think obesity and disease is at an all-time high right now?

Well, number one, I think that the diet is huge.

People have a lot of processed foods

and they have less activity.

And there's a lot of, there's a, they actually did a study where they took a man who was morbidly obese.

And what they did is they fed him, it's called, you know what a lester is?

Have you heard the name of Lester before?

no basically it's an an oil that's not absorbed okay by this gi system

and he was morally obese he was he was diabetic and he had a heart condition and what they did is for him they changed his lifestyle by giving him what even they changed they gave him five olestro chips three times a day they did it for three years

in that time frame he lost all the weight he lost his diabetes and it's a heart issue

what happened was they did what said again again?

It's a pill, right?

It's basically

potato chips with an oil that cannot be absorbed.

It came out in the 2000s, which basically was an oil which was not absorbable.

So people can eat normal potato chips, but they would not get fat, right?

Wow, that's fine.

But it's not absorbable, so therefore, all the toxins which are stored in fat got absorbed in that fat in the gut from the olestra.

So all of that, all that time frame, all these toxins got expelled.

Wow.

And after that time frame, all these side effects caused by these toxins reversed themselves.

And the same thing that's obesity, basically, obesity is the way the body stores toxins.

So if your body has toxic exposures, you will be more heavy,

more obese.

Wow.

Okay.

And then, of course,

not exercising, things like that make a difference as well.

Interesting.

Wow.

Question.

Yes.

The watermelon has a natural Viagra in it, right?

I haven't heard that.

No.

I've heard that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People drink watermelon juice and then they get

well.

I think it's probably, I'm not sure.

I have to double-check.

It may have the

mean SL-arginine in it, which causes vasodilation.

Yeah.

And that makes a difference.

What are your thoughts on seedless fruits?

Because there's a debate that they're not good for you.

Well, they're genetically modified, you know.

So they're usually fruits supposed to have seeds.

Yeah.

And I believe you don't should eat foods that have been modified, genetically speaking.

This is going to affect because the tissues are different.

It may look the same, but the way it's produced is no longer the same type of fruit or the same type of animals.

Right.

Like those grapes that taste like cotton candy.

The seedless.

Yeah.

Why would I want to eat those?

And you told me about cauliflower is not a real plant.

Cauliflower is no, it's no longer.

Stopped eating that.

So you're not a fan of GMOs?

No.

Well, they're very dangerous.

Right.

So, what foods are commonly associated with GMOs?

You know,

tofu.

Yeah, that's a big one.

I mean, you know, a a lot of times you have

vegetables which are GMO, and you only have to save specifically on that non-GMO before you want to buy it.

Wow, doctor, it's been a pleasure.

Any closing thoughts?

Why don't you just stay healthy?

Stay healthy, people.

Can't beat that.

Right.

Wayne, yo, follow me on Instagram at the Creator.

Sean Kelly, Digital Soulflower.

I'll see you guys next week.

Peace.