Conquering Child Predators: An Intriguing Discussion with Glenn Devitt | Digital Social Hour #47

How hard is it on you mentally dealing with the the child trafficking?

Look, I struggled for years.

I can't even talk to a therapist about it, right?

Because it would mess them up if I explained what I saw.

Damn.

Are you able to sort of identify child predators just off looks?

Predators put themselves around prey.

I want to hunt these individuals.

I want to create as much fear in the world, in their market.

We are very proficient.

We're 100% successful in every operation we go on.

Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

Here are my co-host, Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Glenn Devitt.

What's going on, man?

Man, how you doing?

Building.

Doing well.

I mean, in Las Vegas.

Can't point you out.

You are here for the weekend?

One day.

Oh, just a day.

Yeah, I got in last night.

I gotta leave.

I gotta fly out to San Diego.

Oh, San Diego.

Oh, San Diego.

Oh, nice.

Man, so people watching, because you've been low-key.

Can you tell people your journey?

Oh, yeah,

it's a story for sure.

So Glenn Devitt, the CEO and founder of the Sentinel Foundation, which is a child rescue organization.

We basically go undercover against traffickers and rescue kids from child sex slavery around the world.

We're kind of a fine-fixed asset for law enforcement.

So we take, we all have a former high-level special operations capability.

So we take that capability down to a child crime investigation fight.

So we've been extremely successful.

I do a bunch of other things, but that an entrepreneur, the founder of Alcohol Armor.

So we are a different, you know, not non-profit really is where we're doing for-profit things to then help fund our non-profit passions.

What is Alcohol Armor?

It's, man, I created this working undercover, like getting banged up with cartels and

trying to fly a drone or tag a vehicle or track them in these third world countries after you were drinking the whole night with them.

we had to come up with like an anti-hangover formula and so i have a doctor in google i had a background in hacking and intelligence and i uh just started putting different supplements together to take while you drink and so it's basically a performance answer and removes the toxins wow so yeah it prevents the toxins before it happens so it's a whole different market so you do you still get the buzz oh yeah you still get the buzz yeah like i mean the fda will crush me if i say like yeah like you still you still maintain the level yeah um you just it that's just the science behind it right like alcohol goes through your small intestines yeah you know being in the military I had my stomach pump three times So like I mean we drink heavily, but the I knew charcoal was a key ingredient So from that experience we put charcoal in it We souped up the vitamins and we souped up your liver and your brain So we put a bunch of different Supplements together.

I hired a chemist.

It's pretty much redneck science.

Yeah, and the chemist was like hey, how do you How'd you come up with this?

And we told him, I was like, I was drunk one night, Googled kudos root, and that's what the Japanese gave back in the 1700s.

I was like,

put that in there.

And yeah, it kind of worked out well.

Surprisingly, the first night I drank it, I had no hunger.

I probably drank like $700 worth of vodka sodas just to really test the limit.

And I woke up the next day feeling great.

So I was like, all right,

I have to fully invest in this.

And so by doing that, we then fund our nonprofit.

I'm not out there selling sandals to raise money for awareness.

We had no social media footprint until recently where I came public with the story, but we've been doing it since 2014.

Wow.

So, how hard is it

on you mentally dealing with the child trafficking?

Are you actually on those?

Yeah, I mean, I've admissions.

You actually go.

Yeah, I've been on 20-plus operations in 12 countries.

Wow.

A lot of different countries.

It takes a toll on you, right?

That is the hardest part.

When I first got out.

Do you want to like f the guys up bad?

No, I mean, I have a bunch of savages on my team.

I'm the captain of a pirate ship.

You know, like, these guys are like the Tom Brady of killing people.

They did this for a living.

Yeah, I mean, these guys have smoke-checked a lot of people around the world.

And then, you know, like, I stand on the shoulders of legends Sarties of what they've accomplished.

It's American history right by bringing where we come from the special mission unit at Fort Bragg Yeah consolidate that team together and so we are very proficient We're 100% successful in every operation we go on ongoing problem in in in our world now you know so and you're just dealing with it international so you're dealing with sometimes y'all get in the shootouts and everything I mean we're not knocking out any shootouts you know I mean

we had to give up that side of it but I mean we partner with the law enforcement in these third world countries countries.

Like, I've been to Haiti a bunch, you know, before the president was assassinated.

You know, we spent a lot of time in South America, Asia.

And so we'll work directly side by side with them.

And you teach them, you train them, you assist them through operations, and then we're working there, right?

If you're working in Asia, you can't, like, the local Thai police cannot play undercover.

They can't go and infiltrate that trafficking network.

So they need gringos, white guys, to come in.

Because that's the, you know, majority are,

you know, like older, wooden, middle-aged white guys are a lot of the people that are traveling to have sex.

and so I mean I got guys at 37 years CIA you know 77 years old and he's still now doing this job right like so you can really we destroy networks when we go in that's crazy and what started your passion for this

yeah so uh back in 14 i got medically retired uh for my neck and back and i kind of kind of the iraq war kind of pissed me off because i felt like it was a bullshit war i lost a lot of friends we shouldn't have been there and so i had this resentment for this i was like i want something that's very black and white and not gray.

War is very gray.

Anywhere you go that anyone that's been to war doesn't want to send anybody to war.

And I was like, children, you know, helping the helpless.

That was the thing.

And I just Googled it.

And there wasn't a lot of organizations back in,

what was this, 2014?

But I found a special program called the Hero Corps, which is human exploitation rescue operative.

And they teach you, you have to go unpaid for a year.

So I had to leave the defense world.

I was getting a high-paying salary to go unpaid for a year.

And they teach you about computer forensics, digital forensics, and they teach you about the mindset behind pedophiles and why they exploit children and trafficking so they brought world-renowned experts in and it was like once you know you see the the worst of the worst you got to watch the worst of the worst and i was like i want to hunt these individuals i want to create as much fear in the world in their market right because that's what it is it's it's the market and so they're not being hunted if they're not being caught then they just you know go freely and so that's our mission is to create as much fear by working with law enforcement they have the hardest job right they are a fine fix we're not the messiahs we're not the jason bournes we're there taking our experience, our knowledge, and bringing it to the law enforcement.

You became really good at studying human psychology.

So are you able to sort of identify child predators just off looks?

You, I mean, we do play spot the pedophile, right?

Like, it's just like you go to a playground, you're like, he's probably a pedophile.

He's probably like,

kids around, and he's playing with them.

Yeah, I'm like, that guy pedophile.

You know, like, we do that?

Like, I'm right, majority of the time.

Wow.

But I have a background in human intelligence.

So the government trained me on exploitation, on social engineering, on really manipulation, and really building that personage because I will have to be who you want me to be, right?

To be that person to make you comfortable.

And so you get pretty good.

You can't say 100%,

but you know that predators put themselves around prey, right?

That's why you'll see doctors, you'll see teachers, you'll see...

you know,

nonprofits that have these individuals that are working with young, they embed themselves there, right?

And so we have to use this as best we can with technology.

We have some big things on the horizon over the next few weeks.

We're going to make some announcements where we're taking a huge step in the right direction of consolidating a lot of experts in the field under one flag that's going to make an impact.

Nice.

And you're also making an impact too in the

suicide space, too, with suicide prevention.

You teamed up with Amazon.

How has that been?

Yeah, I mean, that came about.

You know, I had a, with the background in hacking, and like my ability to hack was exploiting like Facebook and Instagram and getting information that shouldn't we shouldn't had access to but they left the door open it was legally to get it and we would use that in counterterrorism child crimes cases so I get pretty good at using data to exploit a problem and I got approached

around 2019 on using technology to prevent suicide.

Like how can we make an indent with an organization called Stop Solder Suicide?

So I sat on there for a week and I realized that, you know, when I got back in 2019, my best friend, Andrew Tallman, killed himself.

Like, so survived the deployment and killed himself.

Writing a eulogy at 21, it rocked me, like absolutely killed me.

So it's always been close to my heart.

And I realized that I've helped buddies along the way, like financially, or just be there for them.

And they were all posting the same thing online.

They were all posting like, call a buddy, help a buddy.

And I knew they were the ones that were suicidal.

So I knew that your outward persona was separate and different than your inward persona.

And so by having a digital forensic background, when I was investigating child crimes, it was almost like you you were in the mindset of this individual.

Like, because your phone's your fifth limb, as Elon Musk said, right?

Everything you do, think, process goes through that.

And so I was sitting there, I realized, I was like, hmm, all these phones are being left behind.

When you

commit suicide, all your devices go to your next of kin.

So we're sitting on a wealth of knowledge.

Well, people say, well, eventually the phone is locked out.

You can't get in.

Well, we partnered with the best in breed in Cebrite.

They donated right away.

When I told them the initial concept, so I built like a bootstrapped in my house during COVID because I wasn't wasn't working undercover.

I built a forensic lab, all the old equipment I had, it called Celebrate.

They donated for free.

Stop Solder Suicide brought me on as their CTO to build out this platform.

Amazon caught wind of it.

We brought in the best machine learning team from the ProServe to come and analyze it.

And

this is our first time talking about the project publicly.

And it is fascinating.

The results we're seeing are incredible because we can actually back it up with data, you know, with our control set.

So you guys can predict suicide through phone, through text message.

You can't yet.

You can't predict it yet, but you you can't get to that point until you know what's going on, right?

So we do a call with the Black Box Project is they had no idea how planes were crashing or why they were crashing.

And so they put a

black box into

the planes, right?

And so we're analyzing the black boxes right now of all these plane crashes to try to see why.

You know, out the gate, I knew that three out of the five first cell phones, like I had to go in these families and meet these people.

And I mean, I knew of suicide.

Like, I think everyone in the military goes down this path.

22 veterans kill themselves a day.

Wow.

So you have

a day veterans 22.

That's minimum.

They think it's even higher.

So it's insane the numbers.

And you go through it, right?

I have had five buddies kill themselves.

Wow.

Right.

And you offer this help.

It's just, there's all different reasons.

And so I was going into it and I realized, man, with a suicide, like all you're doing is pushing the pain, right?

You're pushing it.

It's like you walk in.

Now the mom's suicidal, the father's suicidal.

You know, and it's like, I think we have to really, you know, bring people to awareness when you do this.

It is, it is a drastic effect across the board, right?

It's hitting everybody.

And the families were just bought in.

They were like, I want to do, I want to help.

They wanted to give their self the cell phones they had, so they gave them.

And if you understand security, your cell phone right now we can't get into because of certain security reasons, but it's not being updated and it's not being patched.

That's why we update our cell phones, right?

It's because they're stopping a door that's been open.

And so the longer the phone sits around, the more doors you have open that you could eventually get in and still have all this data to analyze.

And so it's been a fascinating project.

We're seeing, you know, like a big thing is like, oh, it's spur of the moment.

Well, you know, one of the cases they said it was spur of the moment, he wrote a suicide notes three months prior, that he deleted it from his notepad, that I then recovered and analyzed and read it.

So he had all these tendencies back then.

So then, what were they searching?

What were they Googling, right?

So you're seeing all these different statistics.

I thought it was going to be like a year-long project.

I was like, okay, I'll come over for a year.

We'll do this.

Now we're in like year three for it.

And it's a great organization.

Things are going to innovate the way all cell phone companies, not just Apple, but all cell phone companies collect their data when it comes to each individual.

So you could create an SDK.

There's talks of that, putting on certain apps.

Where you're seeing this is like a suicide prevention.

You start seeing these flags and indicators.

We're looking at having our own app for resource for suicide help because Stop Slutter Suicide is a huge nonprofit now.

They've just hit the limelight.

During COVID, we grew.

I mean, we were, I think there's only 13 of us now.

And the organization is growing during COVID.

The suicide went up, right?

All these individuals who are at home, the depressed, being locked up, all the effects, and it hasn't, we haven't improved anything.

And so we think and we hope that we have the best chance out there because we're the only ones with this data.

And so I've loved it.

We're going to continue to do it.

We need more devices, though.

I mean, that's like if I had one ask from this podcast, it's like, if you know somebody that was a veteran that has passed away from suicide, to reach out to us, stopsoldiersuicide.org.

You can donate the devices to us.

We give the devices back.

So we collect the data and then we give the device back to you so you still have that device for yourself so how do you how do you yourself deal with

getting all this information and energy and like what's your mental health like i mean look i struggled for years like i couldn't bathe my daughters um when i got back from some of these operations you go from like living undercover where you're you're a savage right you're not doing anything illegal but you're still living around these people you have such this negative energy you're living you have to come back and then you know be a father and be normal and then you go another two weeks, you're going, and it could be at a moment's notice.

You jump back and forth.

So I struggled, man.

Like, I tattooed a little baby's hand on my wrist because I almost closed down my nonprofit because I was struggling.

So I was like, well, if I put a tattoo on it, I have to.

So I was doing this battling of going through it.

And the stuff you see is so bad.

It's all trauma's equal.

It's just when you watch this.

This information, like, I can't even talk to a therapist about it, right?

Because it would mess them up if I explained what I saw.

Damn.

It would mess a therapist.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, all all the forensic, yeah, all the forensic investigators that are out there, I mean, they are doing God's work, man.

Being on the front lines, living that every day, they're a special breed.

They really care.

You can't even talk to the therapist because the therapist, I'll become the therapist therapist.

Yeah, exactly.

Pretty much.

I started manipulating my therapist, and I was like, yeah, maybe I should not go.

I got to turn that off at some point.

So then I found plant medicine.

You know, like for me, being in the military, I had my top secret security clearance.

I had the highest level.

Yeah, you can't you can't do drugs It's one of the things but like you can drink a shit ton So every one of us either go to the Bible or the bottle It's funny.

It's like cuz they'll allow you to drink which alcohol is a drug.

Yeah, yeah, but

they don't allow you to do anything else and the alcohol is more it'll inebriate you to the point you can't even defend yourself or defend the country.

Yeah

and the infantry you know how many times you gotta fist like brawls because everyone is drunk?

Like if we were high, we'd all just be chilling out.

You know what I mean?

That's weird.

Have they changed that sense?

No,

you still can't do it.

Not even reading, not CBD, not nothing.

Yeah, they got like CBD.

It's crazy.

Hopefully, eventually they catch up because you're seeing in the veteran space that psychedelics are hands down the best one.

Like, ayahuasca cured my PTSD on the second time.

Really?

How'd you get secondary music?

What's your take on psychedelics?

Because I mean, I just experienced shrooms for the first time, two months ago.

And micro-dosing is,

it helps me with a lot of different things as far as thinking, anxiety,

just dealing with the social aspect of constantly just working and spreading yourself out to it and even if you're in large crowds.

Look, I am a big advocate for it.

You know, I started my psychedelic journey with ayahuasca and I've done around 14 ceremonies.

Now I do private ceremonies where I do it with the Shapibo tribe.

So I would just say to people, it's go to the source, right?

Like, don't go to California and do it with some hippie, then try out ayahuasca.

Like, go to the source because they are the energy.

You know, when the Shapibo are considered the guardians of ayahuasca, right?

They're the only ones that cast the recipe for it and then it spread to brazil and colombia and ayahuasca no what's that ayahuasca is different right than ayahuasca's dmt yeah right

um

with psychedelics of psilocybin which psilocybin i mean mushrooms i love yeah but i didn't start to appreciate mushrooms until i did ayahuasca because it gave me the ability to handle because ayahuasca is pretty deep right it's like six to eight hours long so my mushroom ceremony has gotten 10 times better and i could really tap into my internal workings because i've I've had that psychedelics experience and so it it benefited and like eventually I want to have my own center for women that have been abused and children in their lives for veterans where they can get access to it because it worked for me and once it works for you I mean I woke up after my second ceremony and it just felt like somebody had just scrubbed my system.

Wow.

Now it's not like a magic pill.

Like you still have a lot of ayahuasca, right?

This is just my ayahuasca ceremony.

You said it was six hours, eight hours?

You do six to eight hours.

I went to where celebrities went at first down in Costa Rica.

And then I went to like where regular people would go.

And then I realized that the energy was the healers.

And so I started putting my own private retreats.

And when I went to other retreats, they had two.

They had a man and a woman as the maestros and maestra.

For me, I was like, I heard about maybe having five, like a family.

So I did.

I got my buddy to get the people from Shiva.

I brought five of them to the Amazon jungle.

And so we had five healers to only seven of us.

Wow.

And it completely took me to another dimension.

Like, I did four ceremonies.

So you do four ceremonies in a week So every other day you do one

and I mean it was life-changing did your soul leave your body?

Oh, yeah, I mean I was

I mean it was that that experience in that environment in the Amazon jungle was so powerful like I mean the experience that I'm having and I think I've gotten better over the years is because you have to let go.

You have to realize that you have nothing to lose and I don't care.

Like I fully commit to it when I do it.

And so, I think I have a better relationship with it.

And no, I've done it so many times.

Like, my 14th century, she's like, I taught you enough.

She was like,

no,

she pretty much is like, get out of here.

So, I explored iboga.

I just did iboga.

So, what's that?

What's that?

That they call it the iboga.

Iboga is, so it is insane, right?

So, ibogaine is what you hear a lot of, and ibogaine is curing meth addicts, heroin addicts, 90% rate success rate at curing right and so iboga is the actual root from Africa it's from Gabon I think it's Gabon area it's Padweedi tribe it's called and it is a root now that ceremony can last anywhere from 18 to 38 hours yeah right it is insane but so with ibogaine it is pharmaceutical and it's one accolade that pulls out of it and with iboga the you get the spirit they say with it and it's 14 different accolades right and so it completely rocked me.

So it like replays your life.

Like a screen pops up,

you're into it.

It's not recreational like Aya.

You don't get the cool, you know, like Aya can show you love at 10,000, they show you fear at 10,000, right?

And it's like, I'm stuck in a TV with ayahuasca.

And so with iboga, it's more of like watching your life and shows you.

And it's just like the old grandfather that's just like smacks you upside your head, says, like, you need to do this, stop being an idiot.

And then you get like neuroplasticity where your brain is like fully open open to learn for three months,

which is insane.

So like right now, I'm in that, I mean, I'm up at 5 a.m.

every day, I'm journaling, cold plunging, sauna.

Like you get that ability to really rewire yourself, right?

Wow.

And so, but you can also rewire yourself if you start drinking heavily.

You can start tying that in.

So if you imagine like getting this ability to be supercharged and really take control of yourself and say, I want to fix this.

For me, it was like, I have an anti-alcohol army, anti-hangover company.

So I was like, you know, I'm going to take a break from drinking, really reset, detox my life, get my brain fully, fully functioning, right?

And so, then I'll go back to it.

So,

iboga is so.

Let me get this tray.

So, you take, what is it, a pill?

Is it a root?

No, man, it's just like ground-up root.

It's a root.

It's terrible.

There's no good plant medicine.

Mushrooms taste like candy compared to this shit.

So, you take it, and then instantly, it's just like no, it's you wait like 30 minutes, and so you start going through it, and then you have your healers.

And so, for iboga, I used this guy, Michael from BawidiLife.org, phenomenal, this guy, Jason Munger, as one of those people, and they were just amazing, man.

They like walked you through the journey.

So you go in with intentions, and so you go, you take the medicine, and you wait like an hour, and you go, and it's like teaches you these life lessons.

So there's these, these principles of life of like taking care of yourself, right?

Like you put you first, of going in through and then resetting your brain of like, you know, if you hold on to something, if a negative thought comes in your mind, you have 10 seconds to get rid of it, or you're going to hold it the whole day.

Wow.

And and so it teaches you these different things to really align yourself to it's cheating man i i compare it to cheating and all my success my patents and other things i've done all have come from plant medicine that's insane completely rewired my brain for it now granted it's work you have to constantly go through i didn't do a good job at reintegrating of coming back and doing this now and so i've gotten better over the years and and there's different plant medicine i've done san pedro which is god's list there's buffo which is the toad so i've done an experiment with all of them and just kind of figure out like with friends and buddies and colleagues I know of like, hey, you know what?

You should try this one.

You're going through this in life.

Maybe you should go to that.

Yeah.

How important do you feel is the plant-based implementation when it comes to mental health?

Do you feel like they should start approving this or

something?

It's the only thing.

Look, when I got out of the military, I was on, they had me on eight Percocets a day.

Damn.

They had me on Zola, right?

That's terrible.

I mean, I kicked it cold turkey.

You know, like, I was watching Drug Inc.

on Discovery or History, whatever it was, and I realized I was an addict.

So for five days, I went through withdrawal.

It's completely rocked me.

And I was like, man, I don't ever want to go down this path again.

And then they have you on Zolof, which makes you numb because you're going through all these different things.

When truthfully, if you micro-dose mushrooms, if you go and go travel somewhere, like, why is this not legal in the U.S.?

Now, I don't agree with just making everything legal, but I think like with psilocybin, if you can do a guided journey.

In the U.S.

have it like you're going to do like ketamine right now.

You're starting to get ketamine drips.

They can do that.

I haven't done that yet, but like have a guided journey.

It would do wonders for it, right?

I don't recommend because mushrooms can take you really deep.

If you take the wrong amount of dosage,

you can go pretty deep with that if you don't know what you're doing.

So I think like mushrooms should be used in microdose aspect or

really just having in controlled environments, having somebody guide you.

Like I have buddies and we'll go, we'll get mushrooms, we'll go into another country and I'll guide them, you know, if I need to.

Right.

Have you ever had a bad psychedelic trip or experience?

I mean,

the bad ones are the good ones, right?

Like, that's when you have the most learning, right?

When you have, you're like, I had, I was probably, I was like stuck for like three hours, like streaming no mas, you know, like speaking a little bit of Spanish.

I'm getting rocked in the Amazon.

They're like holding my hands.

And, you know, that's why IA can show you love at 10,000 level.

Like the amount of love, it could also show you fear.

And you know, like, it can take you to those levels, but then it's just your body working through it.

You can get out of it for the most part.

That one time, I couldn't get out of it for some reason but the every other times you can get up you can go to the bathroom but i would challenge anybody if they're struggling like what do you have to lose because they say if you're in a bad mental state you should be careful about taking psychedelics right correct right like and if you're on certain antidepressants you that's why i highly write there's so many places down and and if anyone wants to know places to go if you can hit me up on instagram like they can reach out like hey this is the place i prefer for it i've experimented with different ones and i know the ones that i like working with because they're like little angels I mean, they really are.

The guys that guide you through the journey and women that guide you through, they're there to protect you.

Right.

And they're your conduit between the locals that do it and having that local or that, you know, individual that's not from the tribe is actually guiding you.

So

man, what's next for you?

This is

enlightening.

I mean, so, you know, we're making a big push with the Sentinel Foundation.

That's my nonprofit, foundationSentinel.org.

We're pushing there where we're consolidating a bunch of other human trafficking task force to put us under one flag to move forward to create as much fear as we can, you know, blow up alcohol armor so that we can have an exit.

Like, I want to be on yachts and rescue kids.

You know, like I don't think you should be poor to have to do nonprofit work.

I think that you can, you can find that balance, right?

When I first started, I started a for-profit company and a non-profit at the same time.

And all my mentors from the Silicon Valley were like, you're an idiot.

You can't do this.

But then I realized the more that I gave, the more I got, right?

And my successes came from leading with my nonprofit, right of going through and it became a test bed where I was taking what I learned in my nonprofit ended a for-profit and so I got this balance of back and forth and just always staying true to it right like always giving and helping others it's I think there's nothing greater in this world when you go to a third world country you go to your neighborhood and you help somebody in need like if you can do the littlest thing and really change somebody's life for it man I love that with sex trafficking what are the most common countries that have that issue so like huge issue with Thailand Asia, right?

You get a lot of people from Europe and the U.S.

that travel to there, they exploit them.

And the Thai people are some of the nicest people, right?

And they're just overwhelmed, right?

When you have this influx into that country,

you know, like the U.S.

is some of the biggest consumers of this problem.

Really?

Right?

Oh, yeah.

And they're taking like kids as young as what?

Yeah.

I mean, look, you have the ones that produce stuff that are dealing very low.

I just, I don't want to, yeah, it's very low.

And then you have all the way up to like teenagers, like they'll go to South America.

You know, like Colombia is one of my favorite countries in the world.

I spent a lot of time down there.

And so, yeah, it's that whole region, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, I've worked in the majority of all these countries.

That's insane.

Did you ever go to Epstein Island?

Terrible.

I wish.

Yeah, that's if we get terminal cancer, right?

Yeah, I'm not going down a deathbed.

So, yeah, that exists at a certain level, but it's so hard for us to do anything about it, right?

Because

we need need our government to stand up, we need our politicians to stand up, and for them to make changes and laws and fun law enforcement.

So, yeah,

man, it's been a blast.

Yeah, man.

This is a lot of fun.

I'm speechless.

I want to try some of those psychedelics.

Oh, dude, let me know, man.

I'll take you down.

I boga is an iboga.

They're going to see you show up and be like, no, no, no, Sean, you can come.

You got to stay back.

Yeah, yeah.

The badge is like, I'm going to go back and do I got it.

Now that I've gotten better, I'm like, come on, let me back up.

Come on, man.

I boga sounds fascinating.

So you literally could could see your life.

It was so crazy.

18 hours, though, Sean.

That's a lot of people.

So it's different.

It's like you go hard for 12, and then the sun comes up, then they put you in your room, so they isolate you for like you're not allowed to really talk to anybody.

They pull your cell phone away, and you get this time to just lay in bed and think about you have your first 18 is your first movie, so 0 to 18.

You have your 18 to your current present is your second movie, and then you have the ability to write your third movie.

And so you go through and you live through your life and you start analyzing all your mistakes.

And it's a very honest and being true to yourself for it.

So it does last.

Like mine were 20 hours where, but by the 16th hour, I was just having like little shudders, but for like eight hour, eighth to an hour, I couldn't walk.

Like it's like, it's like the matrix is breaking.

But the screen pops up and like I had like a defrag moment where it was like I could just see myself in a bar environment drinking.

I knew like if I, you know, like just different things throughout my life, it would show me.

But I didn't have, I am still exploring.

Like, I'm going to go do it again.

So that means all our memories are stored somewhere and you were able to reactivate it.

Dude, it was crazy.

They had me like they walk you through a journey at one point on the second time, your ceremony.

They'll start guiding you.

So they come over and they're like, no, find your go to your room or go to your house and then go through the front door of your house.

And you can see all this.

And you're walking through and like, go up to your room.

And they're like, you see you.

So then you talk to your inner child, you find it, and then you start digging up.

It's, I mean, it's insane.

Whoa.

Yeah, you start going through, and it's like, then they walk you through your organs.

It's got to be the most emotional

experience ever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was like, I had like some deep stuff that I was like, did something happen?

Like, what is during this period?

Like, why am I blanked in this area?

And, like, yeah, you get, it's a very deep learning, right?

But it's made me

so.

This one, you can do, you can't go to Africa and do it.

Like, eventually I will, but it's, it's tough, like, getting Africa, but you can do it in

Toronto.

Um, just guy, Jason Munger, he does it with a guy named Michael out of Weedy Life, and they're in Mexico and Canada.

Wow.

And I got to go because of vetsolutions.org any special operation veteran they paid for everything man wow yeah like they like they basically were i thought i was like i paid for all my other trips and they're like hey you want to go be a part of a study i mean covered everything like hands down it was the easiest situation so they had but it was for special operations or there's heroic hearts that does a lot of with regular army and and special operations and so there's a lot of great veteran organizations out there and they're not paying me i'm throwing this out to the

did you come back and apologize to some people did you want to fuck some people up?

Like, what was it?

I don't know.

Like, yeah.

I mean, it does give you a comment.

It's like, you know what?

Fuck that, bro.

Like, I don't need to win my life anyway.

I was pretty cold at first.

I was like, you know, like, I'm taking care of me.

It's about me.

Yeah, yeah.

I remember.

I remember now.

You know, you forgive a lot and

you forgive yourself, right?

You realize that, like, hey, you can do a better job at being a father.

You know, you can be a better person and work on this and just be honest with yourself.

And, you know, I found journaling is key, like having going through, and I don't do it as often, but having that notepad.

I study a lot of the Stoics and their philosophies that they had.

So you tie all that together.

And look, you do what you can, man.

You know, like for the majority of us, especially where we come from, we just try to do more good than we do bad.

Because none of us are perfect.

Like, we're, no one's a saint here.

Yeah.

So, Glenn, I've learned a lot, man.

I can't wait to support your business and help veterans, you know, save their lives for sure.

Yeah, we're such an honor, man.

Thank you so much for being out here.

Like, you're doing God's work by spreading the word.

So absolutely.

Appreciate it.

Coming by, man.

Yeah, thanks.

You got anything, Wayne?

I thank you guys for watching.

Where can they reach you at?

Yeah, Glenn.devitt on Instagram.

And then foundation Sentinel.org is my nonprofit and alcoholarmor.com if they

hate hangovers.

Love it.

So, all right, guys, thanks for tuning in.

I'll see you next time.

Peace.