Undefeated Boxing Prodigy: Inside the Mind of a Champion | Ashton Sylve Digital Social Hour #37

Have you ever been knocked out in boxing?

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sparring.

Nothing.

What age did you start boxing?

Well, inside the gym when I got to the gym, it was like seven and a half, eight.

Wow.

But like one of my best knockouts.

I think a week later, like Jake called my dad.

How'd he get your dad's number?

I know that stuff.

All right, Sean Kelly here.

Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm here with Ashton Silve and my co-host Charlie Cavalier.

How are we doing, guys?

Thank you for having me.

Good.

Absolutely, man.

How's everything going with boxing?

Pretty good.

I mean, my career is on a great track, so I'm happy where I'm at.

Yeah, you're undefeated, right?

Yep.

Nine KOs.

Jeez.

Nine O.

I saw that.

Man, so what's the next fight?

We honestly work on that right now.

We have a few options.

I feel like it's very exciting.

I don't know if I could really speak on it,

but I just know it's going to be something exciting for people to watch.

Yeah, I'm pumped for the Ryan Garcia fight coming up.

Yeah, that's dope.

Who you got winning that one?

I tell people it's like a 50-50 fight.

Okay.

I just feel like Ryan has different abilities that puts him

one step closer to

being victorious at night.

Of course, he has his speed.

You know, he got his height.

I mean, Tank, you know, he's dealt with fighters like that.

But I just feel like Ryan's been in that position and he knows how to, you know, use his ability.

And he's, you know, comfortable with his style.

So that's the most important part.

You know, comfortable with your style and been in that experience before.

I feel like Tank is definitely favored.

Like, I see a lot of people favorite.

Yeah, he's definitely favored.

I mean, you expect Tank to win.

Like, you know,

that is just kind of, you know, something that you just expect.

Like, you know, you see Tank knocking everybody out.

Absolutely.

Ryan, he hasn't faced, you know, too, too many, you know, people, but

you can still see there that there's...

There's talent.

Yeah, there's definitely talent in here.

There's ways of him beating Tank.

I'm putting my money on Ryan.

You think so?

I'm going to make a bet.

I'm going to make a bet.

So a lot of professional athletes are not allowed to bet on their own sport.

Are boxers allowed?

Can you go bet on a boxing match if you want to?

I'm not sure about that, but I don't think so.

I think I heard something about floyd doing that yeah because he's got too much inside info on boxer that's the beauty of it he's got the inside info

have you ever been an underdog in a fight you're going into um i mean yeah quite a bit like i feel like each one of my fights but not too much of an underdog like it's like again once again like 50 50 or actually like the records just like you know make you make it seem like

um

that

that they're you know that they're the you know the top top dog in that situation right but especially my last fight, he was pretty much a veteran.

Um, I think he had over like 30 fights.

Yeah, he'd been that stage before.

I think he fought Ryan before.

Oh, yeah, um, but yeah, so he was in a way predicted to be the top dog of a fight.

But there's, you know, there's the other side, like from eye to eye, you look at me, you just expect me to be.

It was just a challenging fight, like a lot of people thought about it.

Yeah.

Because he had a lot of experience.

Yeah, definitely.

He probably had good stamina.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Obviously, boxing is a very physical sport.

How much of it would you say is mental?

Because you're one-on-one with your opponent in there.

Is there a lot of mental games going on?

I feel like 80% of it is mental.

Really?

Not high?

Wow.

Yeah, definitely.

I mean, you kind of look at a lot of the best fighters, like, you know, the physical part is, like, you know, the back end of it.

Like, that's just, like, the bonus part of it.

I mean, like, you look at us right now, like, Devin Haney is, like, one of the top fighters in the Way Class Sign.

And he, you know, doesn't really have knockout power.

He's not the fastest guy.

But he just beat people every round with just his mental part, his smarts and his IQ.

Same with Floyd.

It was the same scenario.

So

the physical part was

the bonus of it.

Wow.

I never thought it'd be 80%.

That's crazy.

That's a super high stat.

I mean, obviously a lot of physicality goes into it, but at a certain point, when it's just you and them in the ring, it's mental.

It definitely.

I feel like it's just with any sport, too.

Like, you know, basketball,

Kobe is not the best shooter.

You know, he's not the best at everything but he's like the mental jordan same thing tom brady you know he's not the he don't have the best physique but you know he's like the best quarterback one the goats right so that's facts yeah because tom brady's not that athletic no i mean so so when you go into a fight what is your mentality are you are you angry are you focused are you like what is is there like a rage burning inside like what does your pre-fight mental preparation look like um i mean honestly my pre-fight is like really kind of taking things as as if i was if it was a sparring day you know like like I don't really try to like overwhelm myself about it so I'm like pretty much in the room or like you know downstairs wherever I'm at

probably playing the game inside the room like you know chilling with my friends and stuff

because once again I'm kind of like you know real young like just turned 19 so I still kind of like wow I don't know if you if I really have a child mentality but like at the same time I do so I don't want to like you know grow myself up too much even though I'm in like you know a grown man adult you know profession but so I go about it but other than that like when i'm in the ring or like i try to look for little things that like you know give me a little anger like bring the other side out of me so like yeah it's really like the face-off like you know like of course you have to do we don't have to do the face-off but like when we're facing off like i just always like think like why is he like looking at me that long like you know like stuff like that like you know like i just try to take little things and just like you know turn it into something that you know it will get me to that that side you know it's funny about the face-off thing i was with tony ferguson Ferguson, and he was telling me how much of a mental game that is.

And I never really thought about it like that.

You could definitely see it and so on.

You could get in people's head during the face-off for sure.

Like, McGregor does it.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah, there's people have like their little tactics.

Yeah.

You know, like, he got in all those heads so bad, dude.

Like, some people even like, uh, like, try to like

give it to you in the positive.

Like, they try to like, you know, soften you up a bit.

Like, you know, try to smile at you and like, you know, be sweet to you.

So, you know, know, you don't want to like him or hit him too hard.

Connor tried doing that against that one guy recently.

I forget his name.

He lost to him.

So what is your strategy when going into a face-off?

Are you there to make a friend?

Are you there?

Are you softening him up?

Or are you staring him down?

You're staring down.

Silence.

Dead face.

I don't have nothing to say.

Okay.

You don't talk?

Nah, I just, you know, just look at him.

Let your boxing talk.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, but I mean, if it comes up, like, like, like, say, like, over internet, like, I'll probably talk a little bit, but I'm just not really like talking like that.

Yeah.

Like, you got to sell the fight sometimes.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, when you have to sell the fight, of course.

Yeah.

Like, other than that, like, my personality is not really like just talking, like, you know, talking mess.

You're down to business.

Yeah.

How did you get in touch with Jake Paul and what made you sign to him?

So I was supposed to fight under card when I was 17.

And I was under the Willie fight.

And they were trying to depend.

I mean, they were trying to decide whether if they wanted to fight in Ohio or like Texas.

And like Texas, when I was a 17, I was able to fight, you know, right?

They're like, you can't fight in the U.S.

Under 18, but certain states will let you.

So they end up making it into Ohio.

So I wasn't able to fight.

But later on down the line, I had a fight coming up.

Actually, my first pro debut in the U.S.

I fought in Permona, California.

One of the managers or the co-founder, Nikesa, if you know, Nikesa came.

And,

you know he watched me watch my fight it was a spectacular like one of my best knockouts honestly nice and I think a week later like

Jake called my dad you know just yeah yeah

I still haven't asked my dad about it but he called my dad I guess my dad was telling me story like he called him like you know yo it's Jake and I was like who's Jake?

You know, like, like,

kind of stopped playing on my phone.

Like, you know, he's about to hang up.

He's like, no, it's Jake, like, Jake Paul.

And so they just went about that.

I guess he's saying, like, he liked my skill sets.

You see, big thing.

Like, he, he feels like there will be a great connection and bond with us.

And

I think like two weeks later, you know, I went to Puerto Rico to actually meet him.

At first, we got on a call all together, and it was pretty cool right there.

Then I went to Puerto Rico and, you know, just hung out with the whole team.

And it was pretty dope.

It was like a few familiar faces

there.

So it was even better.

Yeah.

And yeah, that's just how it went.

Then came back.

It's great to see what he's doing with the sport.

Yeah, definitely.

Really putting it on.

It's definitely making a comeback for boxing, right?

Because I feel like there was a moment there where UFC was kind of like tilting in favor of grabbing all the mainstream attention.

And I feel like Jake and Logan have really brought a lot of attention back to boxing.

Yeah, definitely.

How has that helped you, right?

Because it's bringing a lot more mainstream media attention to what's going on.

Is it growing it for you also?

Yeah, definitely.

Like, and it's also

like we have a lot of influencer fighters come to the gym now.

You know, it's just a lot of attention more.

So me in the gym and know everybody else is coming up.

And not a lot of people want to get into boxing, want to know more about it.

So it is, you know, helping, I feel like the whole boxing community out.

That's tell.

What type of diet are you on?

Is there anything specific you eat?

Honestly, I have a nutritionist.

So like, I kind of just,

I'm learning a bit, but I'm just kind of like, you know, just following his footsteps.

And, you know, he just tells me on the way, like, what, like, you know, my body doesn't digest this.

you know, this is good for this time.

Okay.

So, it depend on my weight and how we go about things.

So, but I still try to like, you know, eat a good portion each day.

So, like, you know, I'm not too dehydrated, like, when it comes to that point.

Right.

Or

so I keep my, you know, my strength and muscles and everything else with it.

Yeah.

So, um, I honestly have a diet where I'm like almost like losing a pound a day, a pound or two.

What?

Yeah.

Dang.

I mean, to y'all, it's pretty crazy, but it's not like, you know,

Like, an unhealthy kind of fighter, we kind of like lose like five a day.

Like, if you're trying to get there.

Holy.

So what do you walk around at?

I'll say like 55.

Okay.

155.

Yeah.

Wow.

And fight like 135, 130.

I try to stay around like 45.

So you lose 10, 20 pounds before you have to fight?

Yeah.

Wow.

I try not to.

That's the thing about it.

But I feel like naturally I was supposed to be like pretty big.

Okay.

Yeah.

So it's kind of hard to like sustain that weight.

have you ever gone to weigh-in and you were over so you couldn't fight?

No, no, yeah, I always kind of always made weight.

Yeah, I feel that.

What's the worst weight cutting experience you've had?

Um

honestly, there was two so it wasn't bad like cuz I'm like, you know, like it kind of comes with the job like you know sliding taken in a bad way, but it just gets to the point where where you like you usually like so when you first start off like you kind of like fatter a bit so like you go for one run you lose about like four pounds three pounds and you like you know you think that's gonna be a consistent rate But when you get closer to that weight like it's kind of harder So you run like or whatever you do for a long time You only lose like half a pound or a pound, you know, and that's like mentally like you know I filled up.

Yeah, but this this last camp I kind of tried like an MMA style like you know how they do like the

like a few pounds the last few days and stuff like that and a certain technique where you don't dehydrate yourself.

Yeah.

So I tried that.

It wasn't it wasn't bad but it was like like

like it was like yeah it was like damn like you know you just i feel that you was kind of all ready for it to be over with do you do a lot of sauna

um kind of in the beginning

the sauna kind of like dehydrates you a lot you know because i just well you know water yeah so i try to stay away from that but it's still good at the same time because yeah the sauna we got is that we have like the infrared infrared yeah so that's i love infrared saunas bro have you been i haven't done an infrared i mean i do the normal sauna almost every day but i haven't done the infrared one yet

i need to to get on that?

Yeah, okay.

Infrared's good for your health overall.

I need more of that.

I need more good for my health in my life.

So, yeah, that'd be awesome.

Who's your like top boxers to watch?

Like, who's your favorite?

Um, I grew up like watching Floyd, so I always say Floyd.

Um, have you met him yet?

Yeah, yeah.

Like, my first month into boxing, him and Jake got beef, though.

So,

whose side are you on there?

Yeah, I'm with Jake's, you know,

definitely.

Um,

I mean, but well, Floyd, he's hella cool.

Like, when I was younger,

like my first month into boxing,

him and his team recognized me.

Oh, dope.

Yeah, so I ended up going out there for Winnie's campaign, just watching him train a few times.

I've been out there a lot, honestly, when I was younger.

So it was pretty dope to just be around the virus, see how the professionals started when I was younger.

Yeah, he's the master of his craft.

It's crazy.

So if you could change weight classes.

for a day and fight anyone else in the world, who would it be?

Can't be your weight class.

yeah no

I wouldn't say I mean my weight class is you know I feel like it's the best weight class honestly like you know all the names and the big names but if I was to change the weight class

honestly I mean I would say Canel like like you know like wherever weight he's at because you know he's pretty a top dog but someone someone already beat him of course or two but I feel like he's still like that

that guy like the sport still so I feel like like wherever weight class I think it's like 160 something but I feel like that that would be and he's like pretty much my height so I feel like it would be like a evenly match like you know yeah like my height he's not my size of course he's bigger but you know yeah what age did you start boxing like um well inside the gym when I got to the gym was like seven and a half eight but my dad would be like boxing at the house like three three years old was your dad a boxer no oh he just wanted to be a boxer yeah it was something he always wanted to wanted to do but

uh my grandma would have let him so oh yeah so yeah

anyway i started to a little bit live his dream a bit but then like you know i had talent in sports so it was kind of like my dream started to you know come to that

would you ever go to to like the ufc

um honestly i i i think about it sometimes because you know a lot of ufc comes over you know to boxing so right think about it a bit but i don't know it's just like

I'm not good with blood.

Like, I don't even like my opponent to have blood.

But, like,

once they start bleeding, like, it's like...

Throws you off a little bit.

Yeah, it's kind of like time to knock them out.

I don't like blood, nothing to sweat, nothing to get on me.

Oh, man.

I feel that.

Have you ever been knocked out in boxing?

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sparring, nothing.

Not even sparring.

I like that.

Knocked down?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Not hurt, though.

It's like...

Just you tripped up a little bit.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I try to like switch my stance.

So like as halfway going through, I got knocked down.

Yeah.

What's your style?

I always tell people I'm like a mobile brawler.

I'm not like, you know, too much of moving around, like around the ring, but like I'm like right there when I'm throwing punches, but like I'm like in the in the pocket of it.

So right.

Yeah.

Wow.

And then I switch dance too.

So that's another like.

Okay.

So you could do multiple stances.

That throws people off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like if you only have one stance, you'll eventually be predictable.

Right.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah.

For sure.

So a lot of people nowadays like to say stupid shit, especially in public.

As you as a professional fighter, have you ever had to just like rein yourself in from, let's be honest, knocking someone out from saying something stupid in the bar, in the club, in the grocery store, whatever?

I'm trying to think.

Honestly.

Honestly, no, man, people always.

You ask me questions.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I can't really get in the club.

Oh, yeah.

I can't get in the clubs.

Yeah, but.

Honestly, like, I never had problems with it growing up either.

Like, I feel like,

like, you know, some people like to test other people out just to see like, you know, if it's actually actually true, yeah, but I always had like like

You know people that are actually vouching like they saw like they saw what I did in the ring and saw like at a young age So I don't know what it is.

Maybe like I have like good energy, so it's probably not that yeah

people test McGregor, but yeah, he's like asking for it.

I think yeah like it's probably his energy is what yeah, like he's drunk and he's doing and you do have amazing energy like you're you're on like you're absolutely right like you give up nice vibes like you're a nice person.

You're not like you don't seem like you're like looking for a fight, right?

Yeah,

except in the ring.

Would you say pro boxers make more money than UFC fighters?

Definitely, definitely.

I feel like, but not in the beginning, though, like the beginning stage of it.

Nah, I feel like, you know, UFCs get like a good amount of check for their first few fights.

But, you know, in the long run, definitely.

Really?

I thought it was the other way around.

Nah, that's not.

Because John Jones just made a bag, right?

Yeah, and that's, I feel like

Ryan's kind of making that money without having a belt, you know?

But is that because of his social media fighters?

Yeah, that too.

Okay.

But even, like, you know, I mean, UFC markets there, I feel like they markets their fight a lot better.

Like, you know, just a lot of UFC fighters and boxers.

Yeah, I like the UFC press conference more than boxing.

Yeah.

Because I was watching Ryan's and it wasn't like that entertaining.

Yeah.

It's like, like, you want to see a little bit more, or you just want to see, like, you know, they have other people talking for them a bit.

Yeah, yeah.

It's kind of like, yeah.

How much of that beef is manufactured versus real at the face-offs, right?

I mean, you're trying to sell a pay-per-view.

You're trying to raise awareness for the fight, all that stuff.

I feel like all of it's what Maderie is real, like really, yeah.

Like, I feel like a lot of it's real.

Like, you honestly, like, like kind of mean with the stuff you say in the beginning until like after the fight.

Like, I feel like a lot of people earn someone else's respect afterwards.

The beef just kind of just goes away for some reason.

And you just earn their respect.

Yeah.

But, like, once out of that, when you fight someone, there's respect.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Once you kind of get over with, that's what it is.

Once you get over with, then it's all right.

Like, you know.

If you win a fight, do you get more money than the loser?

If that's in the contract.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but majority of times, yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I feel like there's a lot of politics that goes into it, right?

Like, you got to get your fight.

You got to have the right promoter.

You got to do all that stuff.

Is it ever frustrating for you where you might feel like you're good enough or you're ready to do whatever, but the politics of the sport are holding you back?

Yeah, definitely.

I mean, honestly, that's kind of how it is with boxing.

And that's

what I think Jake's intentional was to do when he entered the sport.

So

that's, and a lot of boxers starting to, you know, get that awareness of it.

So a lot of people are trying to like, you know,

you know, fix that part of boxing.

I mean, it's something like, you know, like the Creed.

You saw the last Creed.

It's kind of like that.

Like, it's kind of, that's kind of how boxing is a bit.

So Creed was pretty accurate.

Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah.

With like just the politics of all of it.

Interesting.

It's really like, like, no way like someone could just kind of come in and go straight to that fat, like that.

Like, you know, it's really like people take their steps, but some people feel like they should they should have earned that spot,

and it's just like the politics behind it.

It's kind of like NASCAR, you're telling me about, right?

Yeah, like if you don't have the right last name in racing, like you're not gonna get to the top.

That's crazy, I do.

Yeah, and I noticed with boxing, they like to build up the fighters, yeah, so they'll put them against easier opponents for a while, yeah, yeah.

Like you'll see, like records that like make someone look like amazing, yeah, and then get in the ring, it's like

yeah, like it's like a whole different, different, like, you like, like, what I'll buy this for, type of thing.

So, yeah.

So, some of them, I mean,

I feel like that's like, it's a good and a bad thing towards it.

Like, you know, I feel like you can't always make someone look good.

Like, you know, like, you know, it's just like, because when it gets to that point, like, you know, you're just kind of robbing people for their money.

Yeah, there's no point about that.

Yeah.

I went to the first two Tyson Fury versus Wilder fights.

It's the only time I've ever been outnumbered by British people on American soil.

I've been to one of them.

Why is it so much bigger in other countries than the States?

I went out there

when I was in the amateurs.

I think I was like 13, and it was big.

I had honestly a huge crowd.

I didn't know.

On the other side, yeah.

Boxing-wise, it was like pretty big.

Is it the biggest country, UK, for boxing?

Possibly.

It's kind of crazy out there.

They're diehard fans for boxing.

Interesting.

They're people.

Yeah.

You see,

they would travel their ways to come and watch their firefight.

we wouldn't go that way.

You know, no, the stadiums they fill, the numbers they, the tickets they sell in the UK for fights is insane.

It's crazy, bro.

Like, they barely can sell, you know, 20,000 for crypto.com center, or I forget the place where I saw the fight in Vegas for Wilder Fury, but like, they're selling 100,000 tickets for a fight in the UK.

Do you think we'll ever get to that level in the States, or has UFC messed that up?

Maybe.

I feel like we'll see, like, I think after the Ryan and a tank, we'll see how that kind of goes.

Like, if people start fighting each other and stuff like that, I just feel like everybody just knows, like, on the U.S.

side, like, they just know what their money is kind of worth.

Like, they're like, is this really going to be a good fight?

Is this what we really want to see?

I was wondering why Jake picked Tommy, but now that I hear this British market's huge, that makes sense financially.

It's crazy.

What did you think of that fight?

Especially just the U.S.

and U.K., it's always like a rivalry.

But that fight, I always say it was like a pretty

accurate thing.

I'm like, the most it could have done was a draw.

Okay.

But I wasn't there to see like Jake's camp or anything like that.

You know, even though he said like his excuses, why, but you know, that's still like never reason.

I fought in the UK, honestly, with a flu.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And I performed pretty well.

Yeah.

Damn.

Yeah.

So,

I mean, of course, you, like, you don't want to always, you know, come with excuses and stuff.

Like, there's always like a...

Like, if it's really that bad, like, it's to a point where you can kind of pull out the fight.

And, like, you know, I feel like everybody will know the reasons and stuff like that.

And you could postpone it.

Honestly.

But if you kind of accepted the fight, you in the ring.

Like, you know, yeah, it's almost better not to, if you lose, just not to say anything.

Yeah, because you accepted the fight, you went inside the fight with you know, whatever you accepted.

So, yeah, you just gotta accept the loss, whatever comes with it.

I feel that.

Walk me through the process when you sign a contract and you know you're gonna fight.

How long do you have to train, and then how many hours a day are you training?

Um, honestly, like, okay, there's like different, different, um,

different ways.

So, when I was first signed the box, um,

I wanted to like kind of build up or kind of like speed up my career a bit.

So I was fighting like every other month.

Okay.

So and then but we went down to Mexico.

So it's kind of like Mexico.

Yeah, so you have to pay.

You have, well, we came out of our pockets to like kind of pay for fights.

So like, you know, yeah.

So we kind of came out of our pockets to pay to get fights and stuff like that.

So okay.

So yeah, I think that we did that for like five fights.

And but we did, honestly, we didn't have a promoter too.

That was our own like, you know, promotion company.

Okay.

And we went down there and we did that.

So that kind of like, you know, was kind of like put me up more in the rankings, you could say, to, you know, fight for, you know, a prospect spot, like get, you know, probably contender champion.

So doing that.

But as of right now, like, I kind of, a lot of majority people want to wait

or have like the time of fighting to train in camp is like six weeks.

Six weeks.

Doing about like six to eight weeks.

Got it.

Some people do like four.

Four weeks.

Yeah.

And then you're training seven days a week or you take a day off?

Me personally, five to six days.

Five to six days.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

How many hours a day?

I'll say like three to five, but like broken up a bit.

Yeah.

That's intense.

Yeah.

And the other hours are basically you just resting to get back in the gym for the most part.

Like you're, it's not like you're out messing around doing those non-hours.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

For me personally, like I'm just like resting back,

just enjoying my time, like, you know, off a little bit.

Like, it'll probably be like two weeks, maybe three.

three enjoying my time off um just back with like family and stuff i mean i usually always have family with me but um like you know more i'm just like sitting back you know just enjoying the time with my family more than you know just in the gym consistently like you know every day all day you ever get insane anxiety before a fight no honest no really no yeah that's never kind of been like you don't get anxious at all no like when i was young my first amateur fight i honestly went in the pool swimming before like I didn't know, you know, no better, but I kind of just went to pool.

Like it was in Vegas, so I went to pool swimming.

Wow.

Yeah.

My thing is always just like not trying to overwhelm yourself.

Not overthink it.

Yeah.

I feel like the anxiety comes from overthinking.

Yeah.

And that's it.

Your performance looks totally different from a training camp.

I agree because when we do a lot of public speaking and like if I overthink it, I'll have a little bit of anxiety.

But if I just go to it and show up and talk and just be normal, like I don't get anything.

And that's honestly when it comes off the best also.

Yeah, it definitely.

Yeah, it flows, you know.

We spoke about, you know, cryptocurrency at this panel yesterday, and I don't think either one of us really prepped.

But then the panel went amazing, and it's just like, oh, that's just what we do all day, anyways.

Yeah.

What is the worst part about being a professional boxer?

I feel like the worst part is probably the cutting of weight.

Yeah.

Honestly, yeah.

10 pounds or something.

Yeah, that's probably the worst part.

Like, you just.

So you fast a lot?

A bit.

Well, I try not to, but like, the method I kind of grew up was like, that was my thing.

Like, Yeah.

You know, just fasting a little bit, but not too much for them, like the hydrant for things they can do.

You still got a whole camp going through, but you probably just a little bit take a few meals off or like cut the portions down.

Yeah, I feel that.

I did a 24-hour fast and then had a basketball game that night, dude.

I felt weak.

Really?

Like, super weak.

So I know what you mean for sure.

How many calories a day are you eating?

Do you know?

Well, in the beginning of like camp, like they try to get to like 3,000.

Okay.

Yeah.

And we just start cutting and cutting depending on my weight.

Interesting.

So who is the greatest boxer of all time?

Ooh.

I got to say Floyd.

I just got it.

He hasn't lost.

Yeah, he hasn't lost.

Kind of broke records.

He fought a lot of top people.

I think he fought the most.

He beat Canelo, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Tyson or Ali, who wins in a fight?

Ooh.

Damn.

Honestly, it depends.

Prime era.

Yeah, Prime versus Prime.

I'll probably say Tyson.

Tyson.

I'll take Tyson.

I'd take Tyson.

That dude was scary, man.

Even just watching the videos, I was scared of watching the videos.

Dude, yeah, it's scary.

Yeah, old videos?

Man.

Do you know what your body fat percent is?

No.

But last time I checked, it was like 8 to 10.

8 to 10?

Yeah.

That's pretty lean.

Yeah, that's very lean.

I wonder what most boxers are.

They're probably under 10.

Yeah, when you have that weight, if you're finding out

your tip-top shape, you'd probably be like 5.

Yeah.

Like, you know,

gets kind of crazy

yeah so what is when you're not fighting when you're not in training camp but you're trying to stay obviously ready what is that what does your day-to-day routine look like are you you're playing the game a little bit maybe right you're relaxing with your boys but you're going to the gym what five days a week you're still kind of making sure your food intake

yeah i try to still i i but me i still kind of just eat stuff that um a little bit that like i'm craving like i've been craving like the whole campus stuff so i try to get a little bit of that a little bit but yeah i give myself like a few days like all right like i'll give myself five or like seven days and you know i'll kind of get back when i feel like um for me it's like running is my best thing so like if i go for like a jog like every day i'll pretty much be around the same but i wouldn't blow up so hot like you know yeah are you good at any other sports basketball football oh yeah we gotta run some basketball then

i'm with it

let's go i mean that's that's like that's always been my like number one sport oh hell yeah i love it well i think boxing is your number one sport yeah i mean yeah that i'm best at yeah Yeah, but like, I grew up just always wanting to be a basketball player.

Like, that was just something.

Basketball you need height.

Nah.

You don't think so?

Nah.

I mean, it's easier, of course.

But

nah, I'm like, I'm like a Patrick Beverly and like

Isaiah Thomas, Mate Robinson, everything like that.

Yeah, there's certain guys that can make it work.

I mean, as the least athletic guy at the table, I would take a few extra intros.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, if you're kind of not really athletic, I feel like.

But once again, I feel like your IQs and your mental game is really what kills it

you know pat bev averaged 40 a game in high school dude i heard that i heard i saw there was a paul george podcast where they were talking about that and i mean it's crazy he's not a scorer no he's definitely not yeah did you play in high school or junior high or anything like that no i played uh a bit in junior high and middle middle i mean elementary but um i was always like more and more i got older like the more i got busy with boxing like traveling and stuff so like i was just wasn't never there but i played football though like you know my family and stuff uh running back oh running back, running back, yeah.

Um, when I was young, it was crazy, I used to play both sides of cornerback, too.

But nice, again, like your box kind of was always took over.

But those stiff arms came with a little extra punch behind them.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I put people down a few with Matt.

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