Tales From The Strip: Inside the High-Stakes World of Slot Gambling with Vegas Matt #5

Welcome to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm here with my co-host, Ari Gold, as well as our guest today, Vegas, Matt.

What's up, guys?

How are we doing?

It's another beautiful day in Vegas.

So you are a slots gambler.

I guess I am.

Jumping right into it.

Like, all right, so you're a D-Gen.

What's up, buddy?

Tell me about that.

It's random how that happens.

You know, like,

I'm somewhat retired-ish, you know, and moved to Vegas when I was still making money because of, you know, all the many reasons to move here in addition to the no state taxes.

And

one day I was playing at the M and I got a Delt Royal for like $78,000.

And so my son and I filmed, you know, filmed our reaction and filmed the thing just going up.

And we were like, how much is it going to be?

And we, you know, and then we got a nice little video out of of it.

And, uh, and then we decided to post it to TikTok, and it kind of went viral.

And then I gambled, you know, almost every day anyway.

What year is this?

When did the first video go up?

I think that was about two years ago.

God, when the heck was that?

Pre-COVID, post-COVID.

Right pre-COVID.

Okay.

What was that?

So it's been more now.

It's almost three years.

Yeah, it's been almost three years now.

I think it was December of 19.

Time flies when you hear that.

Four years, buddy.

Wow.

Well, it seemed like two years.

But yeah, so just it just started happening.

And then, and then I got on TikTok, you know, like one of the only 59-year-olds on TikTok, I guess.

And I love it, man.

It's so fun.

And we post every single day.

We gamble every single day.

And it's awesome.

So, in the three years you've been doing slots, would you say you've made money or lost money?

I lost money.

Okay.

At least you're honest.

Yeah.

Well, that's true.

One of the things that people really like about me, sounds kind of self-serving, but is that I'm authentic and I post wins.

I post losses.

I'm not, phony.

I think I'm number two, of course, behind the

800-pound gorilla D-Lucky, the man in the myth of legend, but I'm number two on TikTok now, I think, and

one of the top on the others.

And yeah, I post my wins, I post my losses.

I think I lost a lot less than most, but I definitely have lost.

I'd like to see a little face-off between you and D-Lucky.

I would like to see a little face-off with me and D.

Lucky.

I'd be quite interested to see how that would play out.

What would you

okay?

here's a call out.

I want to know the stakes.

What would you challenge him?

Like 10K for an hour?

Or like, how would you, how do you mediate that?

I'm so curious.

Like, okay, so I started this thing Vegas Matt Verse.

Okay, the reality is, in my opinion, on slots, you know, I mean, it's a chip, it's an algorithm.

You push the button, it's predetermined, and you can have all the hocus-pocus that you want.

But the reality of it is, is that, you know, whatever game you're playing, you're going to get the result that you're going to get.

There's a certain percentage that the machine holds back, et cetera, et cetera.

But what I do is Vegas Matt Verse, just kind of a fun thing.

Like I did it with Houston from Houston's Hot Chicken and Royalty Exotic Cars.

And so we did a half hour.

And whoever won the most or lost the least, you know, won a prize.

I own a lot of properties in Costa Rica and Colombia.

So I offered a week in one of my penthouses.

And he offered me three days in a Lamborghini Hurricane.

And so it was really fun.

I mean, so it was a half hour jamming around.

We were at Red Rock and playing.

And

he won.

Wow.

Yeah,

it was amazing.

He was so smart the way he did it.

And it was a really good content.

And a YouTube video is getting edited right now.

So I would do just, you know, we could just do the same kind of thing, half hour, and then whatever the prize is, maybe we could do something for like a Cartier bracelet that was collecting.

Why don't we do some charity?

Why don't we do some charity sharing?

Why don't we do some give back, man?

Just do like whatever the proceeds are.

Whoever wins the least or wins the most has to give back, and whoever wins the least has to give more.

Match it or something.

I like the idea of doing sharing.

That's a great idea, idea, all right.

Great.

Is it true that slots are the worst edge for the player?

It's true, Senator.

No, actually, I don't think that is true.

Like,

if you look at different, some of the slots are.

Like, Wheel of Fortune, I think, is a game that is so universally adored, right?

But I bet the hold on average on that is probably something like seven, eight percent or something.

It's a huge number.

Like, I think the casinos can adjust those numbers.

But then if you play video poker on a good pay table, you know, and those don't what does that mean?

Explain that to me because I'm not what does a good pay table mean?

How do you know what the fuck that is?

Great question.

So, so if most people don't even look, but if on every video poker table, you go see pays, okay, and typically they adjust it on the payout on the full house and the flush, okay?

So, on the game that I play, which is bonus poker, um, I go to the machines where you get paid seven seven coins on a full house and five on a flush.

But 95% of the machines or 98% of the machines that you're going to see here in Vegas pay six coins on the full house, five on the flush on bonus poker.

What's the difference in that extra coin?

Well, I think every single time

you're

playing five coins per line, I play 10 lines, okay?

So every single time you get a full house, there's five coins times up to 10 lines.

It's 50.

There's a multiplier.

It could be a pretty dramatic difference on every full house that you get on any hand.

And so that can adjust the percentage by maybe.

I'm not like some mathematician.

Some of these people are just like rain man level people that know these the math.

So forgive me, that's not me.

I'm the

talent.

I push the buttons, you know, I tell the jokes.

Got the sexy fingers.

Yeah, that's it.

These are babies.

Good thing.

Manicure.

So what are you betting?

Like $10 a hand?

$15, $20 a hand?

I average like $100 a hand.

Damn.

So what, okay, so then let me backtrack here.

When you go into a typical night, what's your like, you walk in, you're like, all right, I got 10K tonight.

Well, if you follow me on Twitch,

on Vegas.

Wait, didn't they ban gambling?

Oh, they, people say that and they think that, but Twitch banned like the Bitcoin casinos.

It's kind of like, I'm not, I don't know, I want to be degrading to any other casino, but no, they don't mind if you're like legit playing, but if you're shilling for some, you know, some offshore casino.

So that was banned.

But no, Twitch loves us, and we're, we're really trending on Twitch.

We have a huge live audience.

We probably stream three, three four nights a week live people like to see that so in answer to your question ari i do like to see that a typical night i usually go in with like ten thousand dollars okay and i don't like to lose more than ten thousand dollars in a day um and a lot of times we'll lose everything and then sometimes we'll win a lot and but so twitch you can stream live gambling just not the online uh like bitcoin casinos that's my understanding got it and what are your favorite casinos to gamble in that's a good question you know it's funny and i'd love to talk to any of these casino owners because I believe that the TikTok people and the YouTube people and the Twitch people are the new television stars.

I mean, it's really getting funny.

I walk around, I got recognized in the San Jose, Costa Rica airport, the Medellin airport, the Mexico City airport.

I mean, every casino I go into, it's pictures, dah, dah, dah, like, it's like being on TV, right?

And I think the casinos eventually are going to, and they are starting to do some strategic partnerships with influencers and so forth.

But, you know, for the endorsement and whatnot, I have no such deals.

I haven't had a challenge getting a hold of any casino executives that are

willing to do anything other than protect their jobs and say stupid stuff.

Like, you know, I'd love to do some intelligent slot tournaments, promotions, et cetera, but I haven't met that person.

But I'm just building my brand and my follower counts up to almost a half a million across all platforms and growing by thousands a day.

So, with that qualifier, I mean, my favorite casino in Vegas right now on the strip is Resorts World.

Yes.

I love Resorts World.

Say it again.

I mean, say it again.

I love the high limit room.

I think that it's beautiful.

I like it.

It's so clean.

It's absolutely, it's just such a fresh breath.

Fresh of breath ever.

Fresh.

Yeah.

It reminds me of tongue twister.

That.

It's nice when you walk in there, everybody's got a smile on, you know, everything's clean.

You walk through and

you feel like you're going to win.

I mean, what they do right.

And I mean, nothing against any other casino.

You asked me my favorite.

Like, if I could only go to, if I could only go to two casinos in town, for example, okay, I live out in Henderson and I love the Green Valley Ranch high limit room.

Okay.

And the thing that's the biggest for me is

I'm an old dude.

I'm 59 years old.

You know, I've been coming to Las Vegas since like the early 80s, you know.

And I remember when, you know, your host, you know, with the stroke of a pen, could give you anything that you wanted.

It wasn't all computerized and so forth.

It wasn't like that anymore.

You know, it was like, hey, hey, Mr.

M, you know, blah, blah, blah.

Like it was old school Vegas.

And so at the Green Valley Ranch, they serve great quality beverages.

You know, they got the same girls.

Joey and Kelly have been working there forever.

Laura runs the slot room.

They know your name.

They know the people.

They're glad to see you.

That's where the locals go.

They pay your hand pays fast, or you can get key off your own hand pays.

So I love the GVR highlightment room.

I go there the most.

And whenever I go to the strip, I go to resorts because of, like you say, the ambiance is beautiful.

But again, it's service.

The slot techs are happy when you win.

They're not just bothered that they have to do hand pay.

The girls are all gorgeous.

Before you can even get your first dollar out, you already have a drink.

And I'm not talking like some bullshit drink.

I'm talking you go sit down at a high limit table, watch how fast the girls swarm you and ask you, oh, do you want like Clasa Azul?

Do you want 42?

Do you want?

I'm like, yeah, they're friendly.

So the service is great.

Ambiance is great.

They have great pay tables.

They have some of the best slots there.

And I just love that place.

They have some great restaurants.

So i love life

yeah zook shout out zook definitely a fun place to be best my best host is definitely at resorts world a guy named jake came give him a shout out first and last name shout him out yeah jake from uh i don't even know his last name

but i mean he's jake the dude who always responds to texts hey shout out jake at resorts world whoever you are wherever you are

go bless you there's only one jake I mean, he's the man.

He's Jake from State Farm.

Yeah.

Oh, the dad jokes.

Oh, now we're going to look up Jake from Resorts World.

He's an awesome man.

Are you banned from any casinos?

No, no, no.

Not banned.

So you're not banned like Mickey?

No.

I mean, I don't, I mean, they'd be crazy to ban me.

I lose.

Okay.

You know, I mean, I don't know why they would ban me.

Now, that's an interesting topic, is the whole thing about like streaming in casinos.

You know, is it allowed?

Is it not allowed?

I mean, the reality is every single person has a phone.

It's not like the old days when Frank Sinatra was there with Marilyn Monroe and they didn't want someone taking a picture or something or whatever the reasoning was.

Now the reality is you're on camera 24-7.

Everyone's filming.

There's nothing they can possibly do to stop it.

You can't film at MGM properties, right?

I heard that they've repealed that because it's ridiculous.

Oh, they repealed it?

I well, listen, listen.

The thing behind it is that they don't want you to film

two reasons.

One, because of privacy.

Exactly.

One, because of privacy.

You don't know who you're in the casino with.

Some people are not comfortable with that.

And it is an issue because you have to give your consent to be filmed.

That's one.

Two,

I hear,

I don't know the validity of this.

Like, if you walk up to a roulette table and you're filming like this and you get close to the table, they'll tell you no.

And I've heard from pit bosses is that because they've had people come in that can do interference with the tables or the balls or whatever, the electronics, they can kind of fuck with it.

Well, let's focus on it.

I don't know the validity.

Well, I do.

No, hit me.

Hit me.

I like that response.

That's what I want to know.

I don't know shit about shit, dude.

All I know is what somebody told me.

All right, well, then just listen.

No, just get Arigold.

Harry Gold, when I I first met you, I thought they made entourage about this guy.

And I was sitting down talking about it, like, you're the dude they made entourage about.

I was just playing with you.

You're absolutely right, Ari.

You cannot film on the tables.

But when you speak to, let's speak to slots, which is my expertise.

If you're filming just yourself and your slot machine, your own property.

And you're not getting anyone else.

So I think what would be really helpful is if they came up with some rules and that they're pretty much landing on as long as you don't film other people and interfere with their privacy.

But the reality is, of course, everyone's filming all the time anyway.

And it's very, very, very, if not impossible to enforce.

So why pick on the people who are doing things like hitting the other day?

I was at the M, I hit my second Delt Royal Flush.

And I shouted out, you know, shout out the M Resort.

I said, man, this place is amazing.

On this same machine, I've gotten two Delt Royal flushes.

The odds on this are just astronomical.

When I played, I was playing the other day at M, I was playing a

Huff and Moorpuff machine.

There were 30 people gathered around watching us play and film.

People get inspired.

They start playing in bigger.

Every machine around us was full.

You're encouraging.

You're encouraging people to actually get involved in the casino.

Teaching, like you look at D Lucky, he plays

the top dollar and the pinball are probably the machines he plays the most.

Whoever manufactures those games,

if you look at the play from when D Lucky started, how much those machines have gotten played, it's gone through the ceiling.

He should be getting a royalty.

I mean, they should give him equity.

And I think that that's going to happen.

So right now I'm just building my followers, building my brand, but the casinos will be coming to us and saying, begging us to come.

They're bringing business.

Some offer us, you know, free, you know.

You should get a free room at the least.

I mean, I get all that anyway.

Okay.

You know, and yeah, so good, great questions, but it's not, it's not, they haven't landed on a regulation.

Most of the places are don't film any other people, just film your machine,

and, and then you're cool.

What's the most you've won personally and what's the most you've seen someone win?

My biggest win is pinned on my TikTok, $88,000.

I got a

12X royal on a $2 Denam machine at Resorts World.

And it was an $88,000 win on an Ultimate X machine.

My second biggest was $78,000 at the M.

Same thing, a multiplied Delt royal on Ultimate X.

And then

yesterday, when I was at Resorts World, someone won $530,000 on a video poker machine.

No way.

Yeah, got dealt four aces with a kicker.

Holy crap.

And do they give you the money like right away or do you have to?

I didn't watch how the 530 got paid out, but the 88, yeah, it's cool.

They give you like a little bag, one of the little bank bags.

I got a Resorts World bag full of money.

That's sick.

Yeah,

it was really nice.

What was it like gambling with Bryce Hall?

That was a crazy night.

I mean, recently Bryce Hall had that night where he went to the club and they they said he got arrested, but I talked to him.

I don't think he actually did.

I think he got taken by security or something.

Nice kid.

I didn't know who he was.

You know, he's not really my generation,

but he couldn't have been more pleasant.

We gambled.

He was good vibes.

We went out with a bunch of his peeps.

We had dinner.

It was loads of fun.

He's great vibes.

It was during AVN.

We went to AVN with him and walked around.

And yeah, it was really good.

I was a little pissed at him.

Bryce, you never posted that video.

Yeah, he said he was going to post a video.

He never did.

So I'm a a little bit

hurt my precious viewer.

Yeah, you would have gained some followers from that one.

Yeah, but you know, share the love, Bryce.

Come on.

What other celebrities have you played with?

Not a lot.

I think that will happen.

Again, I'm doing the Vegas Matt Verse, you know, that thing.

And I love your idea, Ari, about giving the money to charity, which is what I'm going to do from now on.

I love that.

Cool.

So we did.

The first was Houston, who's a local celebrity, Houston's Hot Chicken, which is blowing up.

Great chicken.

Is that the one in the Cosmo, or is that a different one?

Different one.

Different one.

And they've got like 11 stores already franchises.

And then he also has a royalty exotic car.

So we did it.

And

we had a prize.

He was going to give me a Lambo for three days versus a week in one of my Costa Rica penthouses.

And I lost.

It was a half-hour gambling session.

So I'm open to challenge any celebrity that likes to gamble.

We'll do a half-hour.

Whoever, you know, you take like $5,000 or $10,000, gamble on whatever slots you are.

All right, here we go.

Go.

There's my 10.

There's my 10.

Count me in.

All right.

Me and Ari Gold, the founder of Entourage.

If I lose, I'm out, guys.

Let's do it.

That'd be fun.

So Ari will be my next level, but I haven't gambled like.

Make me rich.

Let's go.

Make me rich.

Let's go.

I'm begging you.

Let's dive into how you made your money because I feel like viewers can benefit from this.

You just do the gambling for fun now.

How did you make your millions?

You know,

interesting, I think, interesting story.

So I was in a weird profession, network marketing.

You know, one of those, like, no one understands it, everyone hates it, whatever, blah, blah, blah like but I'm in the network marketing hall of fame I was really good at it you know making friends you know and recruiting them showing them how to make money I found everybody wants to make money

but sadly what happens is the wrong people get into network marketing people who don't have any friends so they are they're they're broke friendless you know they're like yeah i'll join network marketing because anyone can and it's free and then and then they wonder why they can't be successful it's because no one likes them um but if you have a network and people who like you and you market to that network like if you have a skin cream that makes your skin look wonderful or a vitamin that you take to make whatever that makes you feel good or something that makes you sleep or whatever, it's usually products like that.

And your friends like you and you say, hey, man,

I love this.

And they go, well, yeah, I'll take it.

Like that's what, that's how influencer marketing works.

You know, Alex Earl, you know, she uses this, whatever, and then everyone wants to do it.

Network marketing is just that.

But I started doing it in 1984

and just had over a million people in my team, sold over a billion dollars of products, and I retired in 2015.

Wow.

And then got into real estate.

I did a lot of personal development.

I worked for Tony Robbins for a minute and he's awesome.

And

yeah, so I just did that.

And then now real estate and then gambling, which started off as just something to do for fun, has become a new career, which I'm super stoked on.

So you made your money network marketing and the real estate's just to preserve your wealth.

Yeah, I'd say that's a good, yeah, my cash flow all through my working years was from network marketing.

Got it.

And then real estate was what I invested in.

And then now I have like the Airbnb thing going on, you know, all the different

Columbia, Costa Rica, and then I have one in Minnesota, and then also in Arkansas.

I have like a ranch with a bunch of cabins on it and stuff.

That's sick.

Why did you choose the international markets for Airbnb?

I mean, I'm not that strategic.

Like, I was thinking before I came on the podcast, I'm like, you know, like, I don't have a jet.

I'm not a billionaire.

I'm just a kind of wealthy guy that's had an amazing life.

Like, I do whatever I want.

Like, the only thing I don't have is a jet.

Ari knows this because we flew commercial back from the bottom.

Literally, we just ran into each other yesterday yesterday coming back from Medellin.

I'm looking at the airport.

I'm like, I know this white guy right here.

Okay, what's up?

So, so I did well, you know, but I think if I had, you know, had it all to do over again, you know, probably by this time of my life, I'd be embarrassed if I didn't have a jet.

You think a jet's a good purchase?

I mean, I just think it's a cool purchase.

Or is it like a flex?

I just hate, no, I just hate waiting in line and all that kind of stuff.

I mean, clearly it's a flex, but it's such a convenience.

I mean, it would be so cool.

But it's, you got to have, and I think you got to have probably north at least 50 million or 100 million before a jet makes sense to buy one, you know, but I don't know because I don't have one.

A good jet's at least 30 million.

So you're going to want at least 100 million.

But I mean,

I know I friend had a really sick jet that I think he paid like 4 million for.

That was nice.

We went to Hawaii on it.

No, it was like a, was it a Falcon or something like that?

I don't know.

We flew to Hawaii on it.

I can say I'm not a jet guy.

I love them.

But my point being is, is like, you know, if you get into, if you're younger, you know, and you get into personal development, I mean, if you, if you really go after it and you work work hard and you have big goals and you're not a you know you're not a screw up like i did way too much drinking and partying and goofing off i mean again if i could go back and be 25 and do if i wasn't a billionaire by the time of my age i'd be ashamed of myself like with the opportunity that's out there today yeah it's my advice kids don't do drugs don't drink work hard become a tick tock celebrity become a tick tock celebrity get a jet

So you did a billion in sales.

I mean, how did you grow that network?

Was it just all in person or were you calling people?

I mean, okay, one, it's amazing.

You know, those numbers are real.

Like, if we went and we got five people and we brought them back here tomorrow, and we said, hey, guys, you each go bring five people back here tomorrow, there'd be 25 people the next day.

And then if you said, hey, you 25, go bring five the next day, it'd be 125.

They've and 625, 31, 25, 15,000, 75,000, whatever.

You know, it just, it's ridiculous.

And it's just, you've got to get five.

Now, here's the thing.

If you get five, who get five, who get five, who get five, five, who get five?

The numbers don't lie.

It becomes tens and thousands of people.

If they all spend a hundred bucks a month, it becomes huge amounts of money.

The challenge is it sounds so easy.

One, most people can't get anyone to join them in anything.

And then they, what happens is they go and they invite a bunch of people to come and join them in their deal.

And they sound like idiots.

They don't know what they're talking about.

And their friends just like, don't pitch me on your stupid pyramid scheme.

And they never get anyone.

And then they go and they say, this doesn't work.

And then they quit.

And then they blame the industry.

When the reality is, is that they didn't really know what they were doing and no one likes them, or they don't know anyone.

Yeah, and they have no influence.

So,

all I did was I just talked, I was a maniac, like in my 20s, before the internet.

I would go to the, if I didn't have anyone else to talk to, if I had talked to all my friends, I'd go to the freaking mall, I'd walk around Nordstrom, try on pants, talk to the people selling.

I mean, I was just, I would talk to anyone, and I just hustled.

Same thing in anything.

I worked my ass off

until I found a couple of good people and taught them to do the same thing.

And then the math works, just like with gambling.

It's all math.

The people who win at gambling are super disciplined and they understand the math of what it is that they're doing.

So, yeah, it was just, and then the internet hit in the late 90s.

I was one of the early guys at Myspace, and we started coming up with

a way of generating leads online.

And I was really early into the online lead gen space.

And they used to call me the king of leads back in the day.

And I think I still own leadkings.com.

But

yeah, so I then in the so in 2000s and stuff,

I started doing a lot of stuff with online and generating my own leads.

Nice.

Yeah.

So, but mostly it was just word of mouth, face to face.

You know, you make a friend, then make a sale.

It's not that complicated.

Nice.

Just don't be annoying.

That's the advice.

If anyone is in that space, the network marketing space, you know, if you just do it.

Great advice.

If you just do it right, like if,

you know, let's say that Ari was in the sunglass network marketing business and like, God, those are cool sunglasses.

He's like, oh, yeah, here, let me send you my link but it's not like oh man you gotta go out you gotta buy these sunglasses that's that's weird but if you're just normal about it and someone asks you about something you know that's so that's so it's it's similar to affiliate marketing almost it's affiliate marketing influence market it's all the same things all marketing is the same at the end of the day nobody wants to be told what to buy but it pays the thing about network marketing that's interesting is it pays it's like it's like affiliate marketing with a way better pay plan right you think about it like if you have an affiliate link and you you know you send your affiliate link you get you get paid just you you know, but if like everyone who ever bought, you also got paid on their sales and their sales and their sales, anyone with the brain that understood it would say, I'd rather have multiple levels of compensation and capture all the sales, all the ripples that are a result of my efforts.

But because people of haters, they, you know, they say, oh, that's a scam.

People have definitely ruined it.

Let's put it like that.

By being annoying.

Some of the products suck too, honestly.

Yeah, or if they're overpriced.

No, I'm not defending that industry.

It was a total pain in the ass.

Like, I mean, I'm so glad I'm done with it.

It got inflated quick.

But it is, if you have something that's good, that's not a rip-off and you're not annoying, it's a great way to do it.

Like insurance.

That's been huge.

Yeah.

You know, that's been huge.

But

it's a good way of marketing products.

Word of mouth.

It's just structured word of mouth is all it is.

Absolutely.

But what's most important is gambling and Vegas.

And TikTok.

And TikTok these days.

Yeah.

Any closing thoughts for the crowd where people can find you?

I mean, I'm Vegas Matt on everything.

And if you see me out in Mountain Casino, hit me up.

We'll give you a Vegas Matt, no-shit sandwich, keychain.

It's funny how these little words, like I'm like,

I'll get a jackpot and then it won't be what I want.

Oh, man, that was a shit sandwich.

Or like I quote Animal House, the movie, and

I'll be like, is it over?

And I'm like, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

And that's a John Belushi line.

And people are always commenting.

They're like, the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.

Japan did, you know.

And so I have all these little sayings.

And just, yeah, if you're, if you're following me and enjoy my content, come up, say hello, and

let's have fun and gamble responsibly.

You know, that's true.

That's a great one.

It's a bad, if I know we're out of time, but gambling is like a gnarly addiction.

And if you tend to be addictive, you know, don't gamble because you're going to lose.

Almost everyone loses.

There are people who make money gambling, but very, very, very difficult.

The advice I'd like to put people with is don't ever gamble more than you can afford to lose.

So, you know, set yourself up with the same money you're going to go out to a movie theater with or something.

You're going to go on a date with a girl.

Some shit, you're going to spend five, six hundred bucks.

Take that exact money that you would spend normally anywhere else, spend it on the tables.

That's all that you need to do.

Anytime you're going outside that reach, it's you know.

We think about some guys go out and spend 10,000 bucks on a table at, you know, at a club.

Yeah, but those guys better be making fucking two, three million a month to be spending like that.

And if they're not, then they're, that's their, but listen, that's to each his own.

Yeah, I think, I think the better point to leave it off on is, you know, gamble within the means that you can handle.

That's all.

Where can people find you, Ari?

Ari Gold, E T H.

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