Erik Casano: Can Urine Therapy Really Heal Your Body? | DSH #1541

There's all I can tell you is there's a book called The Water of Life, and it's written by this guy, J.W.

Armstrong, and he cured all these cancer patients by putting them on one specific protocol.

You have to fast on your own urine, and you have to rub aged urine on your skin three times a day.

He says it's really the aged urine, when your body soaks and soaks up the stem cells, that's really what does it.

All right, guys, got Eric on today.

He's got three wonderful companies.

We're going to talk dreaming, breathwork, urine, and mushrooms.

Let's do it.

Hey, good to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

I met you originally through Coco Bear, actually.

Yeah.

I saw you guys in Whole Foods, loved the product, and I messaged you.

So that's how we met.

Yeah, amazing.

And well, the story with that is my good buddy Torrin is the only guy in the world who could freeze a coconut because if you try to freeze a coconut, they explode because water expands in the husk.

So

everybody told my friend Torin, you can't freeze a coconut, it's impossible.

So he said, well, then I'm going to freeze a coconut.

Prove all you're wrong.

So Torin figured out how to do it.

He said, well, I'm going to start this frozen coconut company.

He rounded up investors such as myself.

He came to me six years ago and said, hey, I'm the only guy who can freeze coconut.

You want in?

I said, absolutely.

And then so slowly we, well, he created the factory in Thailand.

We polished the coconuts, get rid of the husks, and then freeze it two days after harvest, ship it around the world.

So we ship it to Air One and Whole Foods.

Whole Foods loves us, and we just went national and Whole Foods.

Nice.

And normal coconuts have a two-week shelf life.

These coconuts have a two-year shelf life in a freezer.

Holy crap.

And then when you defrost it, it has about 30 days in a fridge.

Wow.

That's still really impressive.

My friend Torin,

we changed the coconut game.

You did, yeah, because their shelf life was so short.

Totally.

And they're all most coconuts are transported here, refrigerated.

And I think the FDA makes you either put formaldehyde or radiation.

Jeez.

So by the time you get like a regular coconut,

it's gone moldy and it's got all this weird chemicals on it.

But we got through the FDA with the freezing process.

What about the canned coconut water?

I mean, it's dead water.

You have to kill the living enzymes to keep it preserved.

And then plastic is obviously toxic.

Wow.

So, you know, nature already created a beautiful, you know, container in the coconut husk.

I didn't even think about it energetically, but dead water makes sense.

Anything out of plastic, I'd imagine, is dead at that point, right?

Yeah, totally, totally.

What about glass?

Glass is better.

I like glass.

I think glass is pretty safe.

Okay.

That's kind of what I try to focus on.

Yeah, me too.

I mean, the microplastics these days are finding in every single organ.

It's concerning.

Yeah, totally.

A lot of infertility issues, health issues.

Seems like plastic is.

involved in a lot of that.

Yeah,

I wonder if detox methods get rid of plastic, probably to a degree, but I think it's a huge reason detoxing is really important nowadays more than ever.

Yeah, I know one of your detox methods is breath work, right?

Yeah, we, as human beings, we detox 70% of toxins out of our breath, 20% out of our sweat, if I'm not mistaken, and the rest out of

the lower areas.

So when you're fasting or if you're not eating any food, if you're on like a juice fast and you start doing breath work, I think it's one of the ultimate ways to detox the body.

And not only does breath work detox us physically, but intense breath work, so breathing deep for about two hours, begins to heal the birth trauma because most people are pretty screwed up because they're born in a hospital.

So when a baby comes out the womb, generally the doctor cuts the umbilical cord while it's still pumping blood.

And then they generally take away the baby and put it in this weird room of strangers.

So that in itself is highly traumatic.

It makes us really miserable and depressed and

all that kind of stuff.

So a better way to give birth is when the mother has the baby come out of the womb to wait at least an hour for the umbilical cord to stop pumping blood and then cut it.

And then the mother should hold the baby for at least two days.

Wow.

So two days straight.

I would say so.

And to create that connection between the mother and the baby, but to rip the baby away from the mother is barbaric, you know?

So once people get into rebirthing breath work or or holotropic breath work, which is initially just breathing as deep as you can for two hours, a lot of people start having, they start reliving their birth, especially if you do deep breath work in a warm bathtub.

Wow.

Doing breath work in a warm bath is one of the most intense experiences of one's life because breath work is intense and a warm water is intense.

So I facilitate breath work.

And when I have someone breathe in a warm bathtub, they get cramped up.

They scream, they cry.

Sometimes they relive their birth and then they come out and they feel better.

I need to try that.

Yeah, it's good.

It's crazy.

I'll facilitate you on the house anytime.

Just like, hell yeah.

I got to get a bath filter first.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Totally.

I know.

Jesus, I am with you there.

Yeah, the hospital stuff, I guess it's because they treat it like a business, so they want you in and out, right?

So they're just trying to crank these births out as fast as possible.

Uh-huh.

I always say it's like humans coming off a conveyor belt, you know, rather than like, I mean, birth is so spiritual, it should be done in a church or a monastery.

And there should be, you know, a

midwife and someone praying.

Like it's so sacred.

And in hospitals, it's anything but.

It's horrible.

It's traumatic for everyone.

The mother, the father, the baby.

I'm a C-section baby, so I'm all screwed up.

Wow.

But I've been healing it over time.

My fiancé's a C-section, and apparently you don't get the same amount of nutrients, right?

Same amount of nutrients.

Apparently, you don't get the big DMT release when you come out of the stomach rather than the womb.

A lot of C-section babies, either they're very standoffish or they're too touchy-touchy.

Really?

I got more of the touchy-touchy stuff because I'm a big snuggly guy.

Wow.

That's what causes some people to be standoffish.

C-section.

I never connected that.

Yeah, that.

And every single birth trauma has a particular like issue that it correlates with.

So not only am I a C-section baby, but I'm a late baby, meaning that I came out of the womb five days late.

I didn't want to leave the womb.

And people who don't want to come out of the womb, we tend to have a hard time waking up in the morning, which is really interesting.

I read that in one of Leonard Orr's books.

And then I started asking people, Hey, are you a late baby?

Oh, you are?

Do you have a hard time waking up?

Yeah.

And it always matched up.

And so people who come out the womb easily tend to wake up really easily in the morning.

Wow.

So the birthing process is super important for the trajectory of your life.

Exactly.

I never even thought of that.

That's that's fascinating stuff.

Yeah.

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He's the first guy to correlate breathing with birth, and he wrote some really great books on it.

He wrote this awesome book, Breaking the Death Habit.

I go around giving that book out to people.

I send it to people on WhatsApp.

I think it's really important to understand about the birth trauma and how to heal it through breathing.

Does everyone have it birth trauma?

I mean, I've met people who had a really great home birth, and they're incredible people.

You can, every time someone says like, oh yeah, I was born in a bathtub with my mom, they're usually level people.

They're not miserable.

They, they, they're more intuitive.

They, um, they just travel through life easier.

It's really incredible.

And then people with like gnarly birth traumas, premature babies, you see it in their whole life and they have a lot to work through.

Wow.

Yeah.

Importance of birth trauma because I've heard of childhood trauma, never birth trauma.

It's all important, right?

Damn.

A lot of the way you act as an adult is from childhood.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

And what's really interesting about being in the womb for nine months,

we're grown in amniotic fluid and amniotic fluid is 70% urine.

A lot of people don't know that.

So I think that's like a really interesting correlation to people who do urine therapy.

When they express that, the masses say, oh, that's disgusting.

That's gross.

But it's like, you lived in urine for nine months, you know?

Yeah.

And you had your bottle with a disease, so you had to use urine therapy, right?

Yeah, 10 years ago, I had testicular cancer.

And

so I had my left nut removed, which I didn't want to do, but I couldn't figure out natural healing.

I knew it was there.

I just didn't know how to do it.

I said, if I don't figure this out, I'm going to die.

So then after I had my left nut removed, the doctors are like, I'm sorry, you still have cancer.

So we need to do chemo on you.

It's in your lymph nodes.

I promised myself I'd never do chemo, but I buckled and I did it.

And after the chemo, the doctors did another MRI on me.

And they said,

you still have cancer.

Your lymph nodes are inflamed.

We need to to cut you open and take out your lymph nodes.

And I said, no, I don't really want to do that.

So I was like, what am I going to do?

And then I had this dream and the dream told me, drink your urine.

I was like, well, that's bizarre.

How do I do that?

So I started researching it.

And I came across this article that said, for urine therapy to work, you have to fast on it.

And I said, that actually makes sense.

I sort of intuitively understand that.

I don't know why I get it.

So

for three weeks, I looped my urine and then I

threw some like water and juice in there.

It was really easy.

After three weeks, it felt like I never did chemo.

Cancer was gone.

Haven't been back to a doctor's.

That's nuts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think drinking urine can cure all cancer.

It can cure many things,

but it is very helpful.

And I think one of the ways to use urine therapy to cure almost everything is you have to soak in it from head to toe while fasting.

And it has to be aged because when you age urine, the stem cells are multiplied by the millions.

And when you bathe in aged urine, for some people, it's actually psychedelic

because it triggers prenatal memories.

You feel like you're back in the womb, you know, and all the stem cells and whatever else is in urine seems to detox

and it seems to regrow cells because there are stem cells in there.

That's a fact.

I have a telegram group called Dr.

Shivambu and David Wolf is a big fan of it.

I've got, I think, 1700 people on there.

Nice.

And so through this Telegram group, I've told everybody the things I know.

A friend of mine on there actually regrew his hair by putting aged urine on his head every day for six months.

No, what?

Now, I haven't done it because

I lack consistency.

But a friend of mine, this guy, Aaron, who did it,

he showed before and after pictures.

That's incredible.

I've helped people, I've taught people how to heal their eyesight.

So if you take fresh urine and put it in your eyes 10 times a day, I've had like three or four people be like, Yeah, my eyesight's fine now.

It worked in like three or four days.

Try that.

Yeah, I've done it.

I've done it.

I put put fresh urine in a dropper, dropped in my eyes

about 10 times a day.

And by day three, I'm seeing clear.

I'm like, whoa.

So how bad was your eyesight before?

It wasn't bad.

It wasn't bad.

But it started going blurry about three years ago, probably looking at my phone too much.

Yeah.

I'm like, I got to do something about this.

Three days later,

after putting in my eyes, everything's clear.

Does it have to be aged urine?

For the eyes, it should be fresh because age is a little potent.

But for topical use, if you want to get rid of wrinkles, let it be aged.

If If you want to regrow hair,

and you have to be fasting while doing this?

I think it's more effective while fasting.

Okay.

What's the science behind that, you think?

There's all I can tell you is there's a book called The Water of Life, and it's written by this guy, J.W.

Armstrong, and he cured all these cancer patients by putting them on one specific protocol.

You have to fast on your own urine, and you have to rub aged urine on your skin three times a day.

In the book, he claims that fasting on urine alone won't do it.

He says it's really the aged urine, when your body soaks and soaks up the stem cells.

That's really what does it.

I just got exosomes last week.

I feel amazing.

So I'm assuming it's similar, right?

Because that's

stem cells, right?

Oh, with stem cells in the urine, yeah.

Totally.

I feel really good.

That's awesome.

My dreams have been more vivid.

So I looked it up on ChatGPT, like, is there a relationship with stem cells and dreams?

And apparently there is.

Wow.

Isn't that crazy?

That's really interesting.

That actually makes sense.

Because when I was doing more urine therapy, my dreams were a little clearer.

Now that I think about it.

Yeah, this whole week I've had vivid dreams.

That's so cool.

Yeah.

Well, you must have really good concentration.

You say you have ADHD, but you must be, I mean, how, like,

one thing I realize about dreaming and lucid dreaming, dream recollection and being lucid, lucid dreaming is just a side effect of concentration.

So if you are meditating or concentrating with your eyes closed, And maybe at four in the morning for an hour and maybe an hour right before bed, a side effect of concentration is lucid dreaming.

Interesting.

But I also think it's more than that.

I think it's like clarity.

And when you have toxins, if you eat too much, obviously you don't dream as much.

Yeah.

You don't have as much dream recollection, I should say.

Yeah, I've never seen ADHD as a hindrance.

I'm able to concentrate when I want to, but my brain's definitely all over the place.

But when I need to lock in, not an issue at all for me.

So you took a little Amanita today.

I did.

Do you feel a little more focused?

I think I do, yeah, because I have microdosilocybin.

I think I feel just more natural.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Like stuff's just flowing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think Amanita is so cool.

And I'm so grateful to be partners with Christian and the Amanita game.

And one thing that

I see, I see Amanita as almost, it's almost the opposite of psilocybin in certain ways from my perspective.

So

on a on psilocybin,

or actually it's psilocyn because psilocybin turns into psilocyn.

So, but when you're on this plant, your aura opens, first of all, some people get anxiety with psilocybin.

I've had that.

And

it works on your conscious mind to program your unconscious mind.

So amanita actually strengthens your aura.

It works more on the unconscious mind and

it relieves anxiety.

So it's really unique.

People who have never done amanita, they immediately think it's like psilocybin.

Oh, that must be like psilocybin.

It's the opposite.

I've had.

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Terrible anxiety off psilocybin to the point where I thought I was dying.

Me too.

Yeah, it was rough.

Oh, well, hopefully we.

Have you ever had that on Amacita?

Amanida.

No, even when I've taken really large doses and I'm like, whoa, this is a little much.

It's happening with no anxiety.

And I wake up the next day and I say, that was a little much.

I could do less next time.

No worries, you know?

And And it's the best plant medicine I've ever done.

I really believe it's the king of all plant medicine

because

not only is it like the emoji on your phone and, you know, the Super Mario and Santa Claus, Alice of Wonderland, Smurfs, all that stuff,

it seems to be filled with what people call kundalini energy or the Holy Spirit.

And the reason I say that is because if you take, a big dose of psilocybin or ayahuasca, the next day, some people are kind of drained.

You got to drown, get get back into your body, but Amanita puts you in your body.

And after a big Amanita journey, the next day, you're very empowered.

You feel really good, ready to go.

No, it's amazing.

And like whatever you want in life seems to be attracted to you.

And, you know, Santa Claus puts presence under pine trees.

These grow under pine trees.

You know, these Amanita seems to get rid of subconscious blocks and help you along your journey.

It's, in my opinion, the greatest ally, greatest plant medicine.

That's cool.

Was it the first one you took on your spiritual journey?

No, I guess it would be cannabis when I was 14.

Yeah, some would consider that a psychedelic.

Totally.

Oh, it was mind-blowingly psychedelic when I was a kid.

But I think, including myself, I think a lot of people tend to abuse cannabis.

Yes, way too much.

100%.

So forgiving because it soaks in your fat cells.

So you can just have this like crazy tolerance and smoke forever.

But I think the overuse of cannabis,

I think it makes people really depressed.

Everybody's different.

I don't want to generalize here.

A rumor says that somewhere in the Vedic scriptures, they say cannabis is known as the destroyer of man.

Please fact-check me on that, everybody, because this is only something I heard.

But if that's true, it would make sense.

Wow.

When I was in high school, I pulled the fire alarm of a basketball game, and

I was...

They thought I was high.

So to get back into school, I had to pass a drug test.

Oh, wow.

And you said it's stored in the fat.

I was 4% body fat in high school.

That's why I passed it in three days.

Nice.

I was super high, though.

And I was a big stoner back in the day.

Yeah, amazing.

Yeah, but I know what you mean, though, how it's stored in the fat, because I've had friends that have to take a test and they're kind of overweight and it takes them months to get it up.

Yeah, totally.

It's crazy.

Totally.

It's stored in there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And your brain's really fatty, so I can only imagine how much is chilling up there.

There's a lot of negative studies on it lately with cannabis.

Yeah, it has its place.

I think it can be really helpful when done right.

And that's with anything.

And I like what Joe Rogan says about cannabis.

He's like, it's a tool.

You can use it to build a house or hit yourself in the foot.

Yeah.

Shoot yourself in the foot or whatever.

So I have to tell you this.

This is really interesting.

Paul Stamitz was on

Joe Rogan and Paul Stamitz said that amanita is the most dangerous mushroom.

And then he goes on to say that he ate 12 grams of Amanita pantherinas raw.

And he said he had the worst time and that it's super dangerous.

But post-amets didn't do it correctly.

You have to let it dry out first and then start small.

Again, people tend to treat Amanita like psilocybin.

Oh, I'm just going to take a whole bunch and trip my balls off.

Well, you need to tiptoe into it so you can develop your own personal relationship with it before you start doing these heroes journeys.

Yeah, starting off with 12 on the first dose is pretty wild.

And Amanita pantherinas are four times stronger than Amanita muscaria.

Holy crap.

That's the one I took.

You had mascaria yeah it was you know nice little light dose yeah so 12 times that one 12 four times 12 jesus holy crap yeah good luck on that that's an eco death right there yeah yeah yeah yeah geez um cali's going through a lot right now i know they had the fires last year now they're doing the riots are you still out there yeah my house burned down in january uh i live close to grand cardone uh by the pier and by Dukes.

And me and my partner, Hannah, we were actually in Sweden visiting my parents when the fires happened.

Wow.

And my best buddy and business partner, Christian, he had just moved in.

Holy crap.

And he was taking care of my cat, Romeo, and my girlfriend's son, Bodhi.

And

the fires broke out.

And Christian calls me.

I'm in Sweden.

Christian's like, hey,

fires are on their way.

What should we do?

Should we get out?

I was like, yeah, get out.

He said, Do you want me to grab anything?

You want me to grab your hard drives?

Nah,

it'll be fine.

And then, yeah.

And then, and then everything burned down.

It was surreal.

Jeez.

You know, and

I've been handling it really well because I've been through a lot.

And

it sucks to lose everything, but I'm just so grateful that I have such good family and friends to support me.

And I've really seen how beautiful people can be.

Guitar Center Foundation donated six grand worth of gear to me because I lost my studio, all my guitars and everything.

Yeah, they bought me like a new guitar and a new recording unit.

Super sweet of them.

And then then we started to go fund me and people helped out.

So it was really beautiful to see how nice people can truly be.

Yeah, that was craziness.

Yeah.

Between the insurance stuff and no water, it just seemed like a really interesting situation.

Yeah, a lot of head scratchers there.

I don't really know how it happened.

Apparently, there were some arsonists who were caught on the windiest day of the year.

What a coincidence.

Crazy.

Did you have insurance though?

Yeah, I had insurance.

Oh, nice.

A lot of people did.

Yeah, it's

yeah, I think a lot of people whose mortgages were paid off,

they didn't, the insurance dropped them.

I still had a mortgage, so bank didn't want to lose their money.

Nice.

Now with the riots, I mean, have you seen that in your heart?

I was just, we were just at a festival called High Vibe Fest, and I guess the riots started breaking out when we're at the fest.

So we come back home.

like what's going on yeah what what did i miss you know pretty wild um i hope they figure it out.

You know, I really pray for everybody.

And

we just want the world to be a better place.

I just want to help people move through their trauma and hydrate them.

You should hand off some Amanita, some of those.

Totally, totally.

Me and Christian, we just handed out a kilo at Lightning in the Bottle to hundreds of people.

It's at a music festival.

Yeah, it's a music festival down in Southern California.

It's a lot of fun.

Yeah, everybody we handed it out to, they all came back to us later and said, this is the best thing ever.

Can I have more?

Wow.

It was amazing.

It was was very heart opening and it's it's really beautiful to help people assist themselves in their healing journey what a great sign yeah and a lot of people don't know the the power of it right because there's a lot of uh people portraying it negatively absolutely i mean it's especially in like european countries like i'm half swedish yeah i'm a swedish citizen and and uh if i go out to i don't know like regular places the store or the bars or whatever and i start talking about amanita every single person says isn't that poisonous won't that kill you you're gonna kill yourself then i have to explain over and over because i choose to um no this is actually very healing i've been taking it for two years helped me sleep i feel great no issues yet you know so uh i think that's i think it's interesting you know is it an agenda to um

get rid of the knowledge of amanita maybe or it could just be lost knowledge that people don't know you need to dry it out first.

So, you know, they're eating raw caps like Paul Stammits and having a bad time.

Yeah.

You still keeping a dream journal?

Lately, no.

But when I do, I'm having amazing lucid dreams all the time.

And I mean, dream journals and even I found having a day journal is also great for lucidity.

So before you go to bed, if you write in your day journal of what just happened throughout the day, you're working on your memory and your concentration.

And lucid dreaming is all about memory and concentration.

So writing your day down at night and writing your dream down in the morning is a great place to start for lucid dreaming.

I'll start doing that.

I've always had the dream one, but never the day one.

I didn't realize how powerful a day journal was until just like a year ago.

Interesting.

Yeah, I'll incorporate that into my gratitude journal because I do gratitude in the morning.

Amazing.

Yeah, I feel like that's been a game changer for me.

Yeah.

Keep me grounded.

Yeah.

It's like a snowball effect.

It's like

karma.

You say how grateful you are, and then you find more things to be grateful about.

And it keeps going and going.

Yeah, it's been a game changer because I grew up in a pessimistic environment.

So everything was seen negatively.

So to have the complete opposite approach is is good, right?

And you're doing amazing work.

So trying, man, having on cool people

that talk about immortality and stuff.

So, okay.

So if we're grown in aged urine for nine months in our mother's womb, and I've already revealed to you that I've seen people regrow hair or get rid of wrinkles with aged urine.

And I said how

If you soak in aged urine from head to toe, it can create a psychedelic experience.

Also in the book that I mentioned, The Water of Life,

they talk about like when you're deep on a water fast or a urine fast, by day five or six, you're a little lethargic naturally, right?

You don't have your protein and your carbs and things like that.

So when you,

well, according to the water of life, if you soak an aged urine while fasting, it gives you energy and you can function.

If that's true, and everything I'm saying, I want everything that I'm saying to be researched.

This is just my perspective and I'm just learning as I go.

But

if soaking in aged urine while fasting gives you energy, then that changes our whole perspective on what food is.

So if that's true and you can just soak in aged urine while not fasting for months, then you could live a long time and you can rejuvenate your body by soaking in stem cells.

So there's this channeled book called

Anna, Grandmother of Jesus.

And

it's channeled.

So this lady, Claire Hartsong, was dreaming, so to speak, about St.

Anne, channeling St.

Anne.

And St.

Anne lived to be 600 years old.

And in chapter eight in that book, she reveals how she was able to rejuvenate her body.

She said first she would fast, and then they would wrap her up like a mummy, and they would pour an amniotic-like plasma fluid on her.

And she would be soaking in this plasma fluid for either a weekend or for like 50 years.

Wow.

And she claimed that's how she rejuvenated her body.

But what's really interesting about what I just said, it matches up to the water of life.

The water of life talks about fasting and rubbing aged urine on your skin for healing cancer.

Wow.

So St.

Anne is just doing that sort of on the extreme.

But for anybody interested, read these three books, Breaking the Death Habit, The Water of Life, and Saint Anne.

And when you put those three books together, you might get an idea of how to rejuvenate the body.

That's so fascinating because I've heard of water of life, but I never thought it could be urine.

I'll send it to you on WhatsApp.

That's so cool.

Wow.

Yeah.

If you can absorb nutrients through just urine, you don't have to to eat physical food anymore.

If that's true, it's really fascinating.

Yeah, because food is what causes aging, right?

Isn't that cool or weird, I should say, that food helps us live, but it also kills us.

Yeah.

You know, it's interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that humans eat like way too much.

I know I do.

I know like I need so little food and I'm just,

you know, it's the first addiction is food.

It's a, it's a big one for me, too.

Are you big on fasting?

I, yeah, but I haven't fasted in about seven years damn so i'm i'm very very overdue and i've done uh two three-week urine fasts three weeks yeah i've done one three-day fast i want to do maybe two of those a year and then i might try a seven-day one once a year

three weeks is pretty intense yeah i mean i would add a little bit of juice and water in there, which made it really easy.

Cause you're, if you fast on urine for three days or water and you're starting to feel weak and not as much energy and you have one juice, You're like, bam, whoa, let's go.

This is all I needed.

Right.

You know, you actually see how little food you actually need, which is awesome.

Going back to the channeling real, real quick, you, you teach that to people at concerts you mentioned, right?

Yeah, I teach people how to channel through their visual mind at different festivals.

So there's different kinds of channeling.

Some people channel movement.

Some people channel with their voice.

Some people channel through feeling and some people channel through their visual mind.

Now, my visual mind is probably my weakest psychic ability, and that's what I wanted to improve.

And as I learned how to use my visual mind,

I realized like, oh my God, I'm channeling.

So, and I understand that it's like really scary for some people.

Like, oh, that's, that's bad.

That's, you know, demonic.

Yeah, but it doesn't, that doesn't make any sense.

And it depends on what you're channeling.

So I like to channel Yeshua, Jesus.

I like to channel Green Tara, the goddess of compassion.

If you're channeling things that are very positive, that repel demonic energies, I think you're in the clear because every human being is in fact a walking, talking channeler, whether they know it or not, when you're dreaming, you're channeling, when you're hanging out, you're channeling.

So I found that

if there's, there's this, there's this thing with channeling your visual mind, there's active visualization and passive visualization.

Active visualization is when you choose what you want to see with your visual mind and then you sort of, you create it because you're the God of your own universe.

So you could visualize Jesus in an oasis.

There's your active visualization.

Passive visualization is when it just plays out.

So I tell people, this is so simple.

Visualize Jesus in an oasis, see the picture in your mind, then ask him a question and passively let it just play out.

And then bam, you're talking to Jesus.

It's not.

And for the logical people, you're just communicating with your unconscious mind.

You know, the people who really know what's going on, you're

channeling divinity.

Yeah.

You got another company too, right?

Aquarian Alchemy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I started a wellness brand called Aquarian Alchemy.

And what we focus on is breathwork, lucid dreaming,

ammoniten, and coconuts.

Oh, so it encompasses everything.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's like a wellness brand.

Nice.

Are you going to have a physical location at some point?

So I ran, I ran my healing center out of my house, but it burned down.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had ice bath, studio, sauna, some really beautiful space.

Yeah, but I'm going to rebuild it and

make it better.

You know, like I said, it's such a bummer to lose everything, but it's actually

helped me understand what's really important.

Moments like this, my friends and my family,

that's what's really important to me.

Eric, it's been awesome, man.

Anything else you want to close off with here?

No, I think that's it.

Yeah, I really appreciate it talking to me.

It was fun.

Cool.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thank you so much.

Yeah.

Check him out, guys.

We'll link all his companies below.

I'll see you next time.