Blaire White : Epstein’s Victims BREAK the Silence | DSH #1546

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America is a Christian country, for better or for worse.

We shouldn't be killing in general.

And it sounds so simple and basic, but like, no, we shouldn't be bombing countries.

We shouldn't be bombing Muslims.

All that propaganda that, you know, heightens the danger of Islam and mitigates the danger of Islam.

I'm just, that's wearing off on me.

You know, I was born into the anti-Muslim propaganda climate, you know.

Okay, guys, got Blair White on the show.

She's trying to vacation in Vegas, but she's been busy.

Yeah, I landed and it was Google Alerts with these articles talking about moving back, me moving back to California and

people just making it all kinds of things.

It's not people saying I'm switching back to being like a liberal or something,

but I'm actually running for office in California.

That's like the goal.

Nice.

And so I want to move back and lay the foundation for that as a Republican.

So, you know, people make stories about

what they want.

How did the outlets know you were moving back?

I literally mentioned it offhand in a clip video from my podcast.

Wow.

Like in the middle of like an hour-long piece of content.

And of course, what's crappy about that is, you know, also this week I interviewed an Epstein survivor.

So it's like, why isn't that not one mainstream article about that, but me mentioning I'm moving and it's like Daily Mail, New York Post, et cetera.

It's like, the story is I talked to an Epstein survivor, but, you know, there's a big blackout on the facts about that, right?

Crazy.

How brave are you for doing that?

I think you're the first person to ever do that, right?

Not ever, but it's definitely strange how it is this taboo thing to talk to them.

And I think it's partly because their stories are so

quote unquote out there.

You know, I think a lot of people have a misconception about Epstein that it was just about sex trafficking, which was obviously a big part of the operation.

But the more and more I look into it, what gets really scary is that just seems almost like a

thing to do while you're on the island doing other stuff so it's a lot of the billionaires involved bill gates that were doing stuff with technology with human trafficking to take like people's eggs women's eggs that's like a lot of the victims say that wow and so

obviously the story is just the sex trafficking aspect but that was almost like a party favor for these disgusting monsters that were partaking in it they had other business going on there so juliette bryant who i talked to talked about um having her eggs taken she also talked talked about seeing a UFO.

And, you know, I know you're not averse to those topics.

I seem to talk about all the out there stuff.

And, I mean, Area 51 is down the road.

It just got caught on fire a few weeks ago.

Did it really?

Yeah, they're saying they were trying to burn some evidence or something.

I'm sure.

Yeah, I mean, it's all that.

Yeah, the underground bases, all that.

And, you know, it maybe doesn't make sense to people how she'd be talking about sex trafficking in one hand and UFOs in the next, but.

it's a secret location with billionaires who have access to you don't even know what so i believe her she saw a UFO.

I believe her.

They really keep that survivor list hidden because I was trying to look it up and try to get some podcast guests and you can't find anything about who survived that.

Yeah, I'll send your info to her and I know she'd redown to do it.

She lives in Africa.

I don't know if you do remote ones, but I mean, she's like kind of only safe in Africa.

But, you know, she got paid, she got paid out $2 million

to shut up, basically.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

And so.

If she's lying, why is she paid out $7 million?

You know what I mean?

$2 million, damn.

Yeah.

I was JP Morgan and the Epstein Foundation or whatever that did that

for trafficking.

So how shocked were you after that interview of what she was saying?

You know, I'm really into the esoteric side of things.

I'm really into what you're not supposed to talk about.

I do a lot of independent research and I don't actually talk about that all the time on my channel because I try to lead people there slowly.

Right.

But just the reality of things.

And I know people aren't ready.

So I wasn't shocked personally.

A lot of my audience was.

But

it is what it is.

Clearly, the normal like Republican, Democrat, like matrix discourse doesn't work.

Like we have to start talking about the bigger things and hidden technology and all of that because it's all in the same wheelhouse.

Yeah.

That stuff's coming to light though.

Anna Paulina Luna is starting to speak up a little bit about that type of thing too.

She's one of the only people right now that I have, you know, any kind of faith left in the administration, which is sad.

I'm a three-time Trump voter.

Yeah.

And I've only voted Republican my adult life.

I'm 31.

But

and Trump has done a lot of amazing things.

And so nothing is to discredit the fact that he did clean up the border.

The border is the best it's been since I've been alive.

But it's kind of that one thing.

It's like, but you're covering up for child sex traffickers.

Like there's no,

I feel like anything positive he does will come with the caveat of he closed the border, but he covered up for child sex traffickers.

But the reality is, like we were saying, it's not just that.

It's, it's military technology.

It's government secrets, multiple governments, you know?

There must be a good reason.

I can't imagine it'd be something trivial, right?

I think there's lots of good reasons, unfortunately.

So, but but I'm of the opinion, burn it all down.

If society is being propped up right now on these types of crimes, that that's the only thing keeping, you know, the dollar going and the planet spinning, then let's start over because it's, it's,

I don't know, I'm a very spiritual person as well.

So I know that if we don't make it right, God will on whatever timeline.

So I would rather it be us than see what happens if we don't.

Because

you can't get around the kid thing.

You just can't.

No one can accept that.

Even the most diehard Trump supporters.

No, that's like the one thing.

You can't come back from the pedo stuff.

No, no.

And in healthy societies should be judged by or how healthy a society is.

One of the barometers is how much are you willing to protect the innocent.

And that's children, that's animals, that's women, that's everybody.

And if we don't live up to that,

I don't like that.

I know you're very outspoken on this topic and you're getting a lot of hate for it, right, on social media.

Maybe not necessarily for the Epstein stuff, just because there is like, you know, a lot of unity right now in the country over that.

And some of it's fake because the Democrats didn't even utter that word Epstein until this month when they knew it would hurt Trump disproportionately.

But the reality is, we know Bill Clinton's on there.

We don't know for sure Trump is.

We know he's implicated in something he's ashamed of.

But we're looking at both sides here with politicians and potentially presidents on that list so

there is something kind of like

sick and beautiful about like we're kind of all in the same boat right now

but i do kind of look down on people right now who are making it partisan because it's really not you know if bill clinton and donald trump are on there it's all of us we're all kind of screwed yeah well elon said he was on there i mean crazy Yeah, and looking back, I remember seeing that and being like, oh, he's lost it.

You know, is this academy?

What's this black guy?

Like, who's making him say this?

And he was vindicated pretty quickly here.

Yeah.

You know?

He might have been right.

Yeah.

And we don't know for sure, but that'd be a good reason to release it.

So we can know for sure.

That's nuts.

So where would you rank Trump so far in his second term, like A through F?

You know, it's difficult because in the moment, it's all about the Epstein stuff.

And I have a lot of like,

justified emotion about it.

And so I don't want to like disregard everything positive, you know?

I mean, he made animal cruelty a felony at Alice Cool.

He's closed the border.

He,

I guess it's, it's, it's hard to tell.

Right now, I would say he's looking at like a D.

Damn.

But that's because

of how egregious the Epstein stuff is and the Israel stuff.

You know,

we definitely have a president who's blackmailed.

And I think we've had probably a president who's blackmailed by Israel since JFK, everyone.

Wow.

And

do I know that for sure?

No.

Would I put potentially a lot of money on it?

Yeah.

I mean, there has to be some reason why.

I mean,

here's the thing.

Obviously, Jewish people are different than the state of Israel.

And I do not like the fact that it's conflated.

And I know that there's obviously a lot of people who practice in Israel.

It's the only real like.

majority country,

but it's not the same thing.

It doesn't make you hateful to be like, I don't want to bomb countries on their behalf.

You know, and on a bigger scale, it's like America is a Christian country for better or for worse.

We shouldn't be killing in general.

And it sounds so simple and basic, but like, no, we shouldn't be bombing countries.

We shouldn't be bombing Muslims.

All that propaganda that, you know, heightens the danger of Islam and mitigates the danger of.

I'm just, that's wearing off on me.

You know, I was born into the anti-Muslim propaganda climate.

You know, I saw 9-11 when I was in third grade, watched it on TV.

And so you're born after 9-11, right?

I'm born in 97, so I don't remember it.

Okay, yeah, but you were born for, yeah, okay.

You know, then you know that there has been a lot of propaganda around Muslims ever since.

And it's not that Islam is anything I want, you know, codified into law in my own country.

It's not that I would ever practice Islam.

I am a Christian and I disagree with

all of it, basically.

But the idea that they're responsible for every sin in the world geopolitically and Israel is responsible for nothing, those two things can't really work for me.

And I'm seeing a lot of people fall into that camp.

People who can stub their toe and it's the fault.

And then people who could get punched in the face by and be like, people have never done anything wrong.

Both of those are irrational.

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

And we have to get there somehow.

We have to.

Yeah, that seems every time on Twitter, I see that come up, the Israel anti-Semitism stuff, it's everywhere.

And it's sad.

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Because I've met many people who have been good friends of mine, and I'm friends with people right now, you know?

And so I hate that they're getting trapped into a box of if you criticize the actions of a country for which everyone seems so comfortable criticizing everything America does, right?

We deport an illegal immigrant and we're in Nazi Germany.

But the shit that goes on in Israel, can I swear I hear him?

Sorry.

Okay.

It's just never any admission that there could be any wrongdoing.

And that to me, it can't stand.

It doesn't stand to reason, doesn't stand to

goodness, truth, logic, nothing.

All humans are flawed.

There's no such thing as chosen people, in my opinion.

You know, I believe Jesus came and that's our Messiah.

We're not waiting for another one.

We're not picking out the red heifer to make their, the new Messiah come.

Mine's already come.

And so I don't believe that God sees anybody higher than anybody.

And so that's how I know I don't hate Jewish people no matter what people try to say, especially because I've never really even thought much about them in general to the last couple of years.

I think a lot of people haven't.

But it's, there's a reckoning that needs to happen.

And I think it's a mistake for people to dig their heels in and consider in Israel to be completely non-critiquable because it builds resentment.

And,

you know, I've seen it on the microcosm of other groups, right?

So like I'm trans and I see how The trans community has this line of thinking where you have to support every single thing they do, every single thing that they fight for politically.

And if you don't, it means you hate them.

It means you don't want them to exist.

This is the same arguments that you hear about Israel and

people.

And I've seen firsthand that that irrational line of thinking has led to a lot of resentment around trans people.

And it's happening people right now.

And so, you know, people might be like, how do you conflate trans?

I'm not.

I'm conflating the process by which if you consider yourself to have, you know, your shit doesn't stink, people start to sniff even harder and they find it.

Right.

So that's where I'm at with it.

You know, makes sense.

What do you think of the Milk Boys Netanyahu interview?

Did you watch the full thing?

I didn't watch the full thing.

I don't think it was as bad as people were making it out to be, but I think people's emotions are really heightened right now.

I do think that they were overall responsible.

I would consider it a D, but not an F, because they did ask, like, what do you have to say about, you know, the accusations of you starving children?

It's not as if they didn't press at all.

But you can't just let him get away with saying no.

You have to have enough of a knowledge base to push back on on that and ask a follow-up.

So it

justifiably made people angry because, you know, the more people are seeing about what's going on in Gaza and in the Middle East in general, people are becoming offended.

Sounds like such a trivial word, but it's accurate.

It's like we're offended by murder.

We're offended by children dying.

We're offended by the pain and the torture of these human beings.

Everyone's a human being.

And I especially vlube that is a Christian.

So

do I consider, you know, Muslims compatible with the society I want to live in or my religion?

No.

Do I believe that they deserve to be, you know, hit with the type of attacks they're being hit with right now because of Israel and my country paying for it and my country helping?

Absolutely not.

Yeah, we're paying a lot.

We're sending them a lot of dough.

Yeah.

And, you know, it's, I've, sometimes I'm like angry at myself.

Like, how was I ever so gullible?

Because.

How did I not even know until pretty recently, embarrassingly, that you could even have dual citizenship and dual citizenship and work in government here.

Like, I didn't know that.

I actually didn't know that.

Right.

Like, so you can be a citizen of two countries and be a senator.

Really?

Yeah.

So you could be a Chinese citizen, which is considered an enemy, or maybe even Russia, or is there specific countries that are banned from that?

It would probably go down to like, if it's an enemy country, obviously.

So maybe not China.

I have to look into that, but Israel is an ally.

And I guess you can just be a citizen of both.

And that's why you see so many people who we elect to office.

You know, was it Ted Cruz who interviewed with Tucker?

Yeah, he got destroyed.

Saying that the thing that made him run for office was to support Israel.

Yeah.

For that to be the first thing you say, you're running for office in America to support Israel.

I don't feel comfortable with anyone, you know, being in office here that has a loyalty to another country first.

You can have loyalties to other countries.

We have allies and we should support them.

But

you say that first.

It's just, it's just bizarre.

Israel has a lot of influence, it seems like, especially with AIPAC.

And it's, and it's disproportionate, but it's through blackmail and and other things right like we collaborate with them on the serial technology we were talking about a lot of that is is both countries and and it's all you know it's a it's a web because a lot of people

just to address the like could stub your toe and it's you know sort of thinking people who blame them for everything unfortunately the reality is a bit darker because epstein was not just a mossad you know operation.

It was MI6, it was KGB, it was CIA.

But unfortunately, there's an argument to be made that all of these intelligence agencies kind of operate as their own country at this point.

They're definitely above the rules.

I mean, you look at since the beginning, MK Ultra experiments putting drugs in the water in schools for children to come down with diseases just to see what would happen, you know.

MK Often, people don't know about that.

What's that one?

That is where the CIA actually went and infiltrated witch covens and occult groups, phlemic groups, and

basically did rituals on citizens.

And, you know, we live in a in a mostly sort of secular atheistic country.

And even a lot of people who are Christian or religious by name kind of stop at believing in anything evil, which I think is delusional, because if good, if good exists, evil does too.

And our government has partaken in a lot of evil.

And some of it goes right down to spiritual truths and literal witches.

And you don't have to believe in being a witch.

You don't have to believe in, you know, the occult and certain groups, but they have their beliefs and they're around.

And unfortunately, a lot of them are in power.

So, like, it's too many victims of the Epstein stuff to take it to that.

That

talk about occult aspects being part of what happened.

Talk about ritualistic abuse, not just sexual abuse.

And people tune that out because it's too hard to hear sometimes too.

Yeah.

And you don't know what to think about the word.

Like, what is that a human word?

But, you know, as someone who

knows quite a bit about that, for better or for worse, through my research and other things, that's real and that's out there.

There's some evil out there.

I'm sure you've interviewed some people in that realm too, right?

This last one was really the first one.

But, you know, it's not hard information to find.

And like I said, the government has literally on record infiltrated these groups and operated.

So

that's crazy.

That's scary because you go to these groups like open-minded, right?

And then you don't even know they're infiltrated.

Right, right.

And I do question like, at what point does it become scared to really question how many people are embedded in normal society that are agents of different countries?

And I think that it's probably a lot more than we would like to think.

That's scary.

Especially in the, you know, political commentary worlds, not naming names or anything, but it's been really scary.

I've been doing it for almost 10 years.

Yeah.

So I've seen a lot.

And I never knew until pretty recently how many people are like bought and paid for by other countries and really are Intel agents, whether it's for CIA or Massad or whatever.

But I feel like every other month now I'm hearing like this person is a Fisp

with evidence or I'm or I'm seeing it or I'm, you know, it's, it's like,

is everything just fake?

Like, is everything fake?

Everyone has ulterior motives.

I don't know, but it's scary.

I feel like we're just being pulled in so many directions, right?

And that's intentional.

They're like planting different messages and conspiracies.

You don't know what to believe.

Right.

It's really, you know, not to make a pun in Alex Jones moment, but it's really an info war.

There's There's a battle over what information you can have and then even your understanding of it.

So like the UFO topic, you know,

we won't go too much on that, I guess, but like that's a really good example.

There's so many different sideups around that topic.

You know, there's, it's reptilians, it's Nordics, it's

just an advanced humans, different breakaway civilization.

It's demons, it's angels.

I tend to believe that it's some sort of spiritual reality because, you know, one thing about aerospace is you start researching the connections to the occults.

Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, heads of NASA, Warner von Braun, all of them were heavily involved in the occults.

And so you kind of can't research it without coming across aerospace stuff.

And what is that?

That's UFOs.

That's rockets.

That's space travel.

So

it all sounds very schizophrenic to people who have never researched it, but it's there if you look for it.

Wow, that's nuts.

You mentioned blackmail earlier.

So you you said you're running for office in Cali.

And nobody has shit on me.

Yeah.

I was just going to ask, do you worry about blackmail?

I don't leave the house.

This is like my first vacation here in Vegas.

I'm not even really vacationing.

I've had three boyfriends in life, never committed a crime, never been in jail, never did a hard drug.

Wow, only three boyfriends your whole life?

Yeah, they've all been super long term, though.

Well done.

Yeah, I don't think they'll be able to pay any of those guys off then.

Maybe it's a lie, I guess, but i've never done anything really like wrong like that well they did that to tate i don't know if you saw that but that one of the girls got exposed for getting a hundred grand oh wow yeah for lying about him wow yeah that's how it goes like that's why even like when i opened it like the stuff about the articles today pissing me off it's kind of it's it's what you deal with when you have careers like ours so you're gonna go after the outlet or are you just gonna let it oh no no it's and it's not even necessarily the articles it was just it's people's reactions yeah you know it's like liberals saying see red state suck she's fleeing to California, which is the opposite.

First of all, I was born in California.

Second of all, I fleed to Texas during lockdowns.

So if anything, it's Democrat policy I was ever running from.

Right.

You know,

and then Republicans saying, see, she was never really a Republican because she's moving to California.

And there's that mentality among conservatives that like California and New York deserve to just burn and let them fall by the wayside.

And it's like.

They're Americans too.

And a lot of them didn't ask for illegal immigrants to permanently lock their state into being Democrat.

And we got to fix it.

So I'd rather be part of the solution than just bitch about it.

Yeah, going straight into the fire.

Hats off to you.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, a lot of people are leaving Cali and you're going straight back.

Yeah, I know, I know, but it is what it is.

Newsome might run in 28, it looks like he's gearing up for it.

That's what I see.

And what's really frustrating about that is

in a world without all this Epstein Israel stuff, I don't think that would be possible because I think people have been really sick and tired of of Democrats.

I mean, their approval rate was the lowest in history for them.

And this last election kind of showed them to be largely a joke.

The only way you could have taught that in being a joke is covering up for sex offenders and bombing countries after you said you wouldn't.

So it sucks that it seems like we're kind of handing them this win.

But I guess that's politics.

It goes left and then, right?

Always.

Sometimes really hard and sometimes really left.

It's just how much dirt you could dig up, how much blackmail you could get, right?

Yeah, yeah.

And it's a really, I think, ugly world, unfortunately.

Did you see this Obama stuff lately?

Yeah.

With Tulsi exposing them.

Yeah.

And I believe it because Russia Gate, all the Russia stuff was clearly a hoax from the beginning.

As someone who, like I said, three-time Trump voter, I remember those days very clearly.

But

I have to admit, it's hard to care about in the midst of the Epstein stuff.

And I think that it probably was strategic for them to pull that trigger and start talking about that in the midst of the Epstein stuff.

So you think it's a little distraction.

Yeah, it makes you wonder if they just stockpile information like that to like kind of distract people, right?

They got to have stuff in the arsenal.

Like this came out, we got to distract for sure.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This Epstein stuff really divided the party.

And rightfully so.

I mean, if you can't draw the line at children,

you have no line.

I mean, if you have no line if you're not willing to for that.

Yeah, I hope something comes of it.

We'll see if it you do even think there's a genuine list though, like honestly.

Well, that's the thing is people get

the list has almost become like a meme, right?

But the reality is, yes, I'm sure there is a working list of people they know committed certain crimes.

But, you know, it's really not the list that we want.

It's prosecutions.

Like, I could actually care less about like a list of names.

Like I'm reading some drama or some tea, like, oh, this person is into this messed up shit.

It's more like, okay, this person's into this messed up shit.

So we're arresting him, right?

And that's the part that's missing is i don't even see the word prosecution being thrown around very much people are just like give us the list the list it's like how about put them in jail

because that's kind of basic you do something to a kid you go to jail but apparently i don't know and and that's the actual reality is when it goes back to like the survivor i interviewed not even getting any articles about it but my move to california is

like people right i was like

People really don't care about victims that much.

People just claim to.

It's just the drama and the political implications people care about, not really the people themselves.

Right.

Like Virginia Jouffrey getting hit by the bus after she posted she's not suicidal.

Crazy.

And then I saw the nerve of some Trump supporters saying, well, why don't the victims just come forward?

Why can't they just name names?

As if it's their obligation to do press conferences about their trauma and as if they haven't done that and then died for it.

Like maybe they don't want to get hit by a bus, perhaps.

But yeah, it's scary.

Yeah, well, we know the outlets are controlled, so they're not going to report on stuff like your interview, right?

Rights.

Because again, it's not just even the sex trafficking.

It's like, oh, she saw a UFO, cut that out.

You mentioned earlier there was a lot of resentment in the trans community.

Is it still like that right now, would you say?

Oh, they hate me.

Yeah.

They hate me.

I don't really get it fully because.

Their argument against me is that I fight against trans rights, but I look at all the rights they're asking for and fighting for, and none of them really have anything to do with the word right.

right.

Like you don't have a right to sterilize children.

You don't have a right to compete in a sports category that isn't right for you.

You don't have a right to, you know, have the government pay for your surgeries, you know?

So for me, when it comes to rights, it's like owning a home, working.

You know, it's, it's the right to travel, get on a plane.

It's the right to free speech.

It's not like.

sex changes for minors.

Like I find that to be satanic.

And I would never get behind that.

That's probably the thing to hate for the most is that from the start of my career, I've been like, that's a no for me.

And it's evil.

Because your brain's still developing, right?

Right.

And

you can't consent as a minor to sex.

So what makes you think you can consent to a sex change?

And it's just,

I personally can't wrap my head around supporting it, especially as someone who's.

been through transition.

The idea that a child would be going through what I went through when I transitioned is diabolical.

Yeah, because that process is difficult, right?

Mentally.

Right, for an adult.

So imagine a child, not to mention, I think it's right for only a very small fraction of people.

Like trans has become this broad thing that anybody can say they are and get a surgery and go on hormones.

And I look at 90% of them and I'm like, you're destroying your life.

That's clearly the wrong decision for you.

Wow.

Like if you're married with three kids and suddenly you're a woman, like the Mr.

Beast sidekick.

Yeah.

What was his name?

Chris Something.

Chris, yeah.

Chris Something.

It's like, I don't see that as being valid.

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It's just bizarre.

You're going to ruin a family over that?

Like, really?

And then it is a social contagion among teenagers.

So little girls go into school.

Their friend Stacey is nick now.

And suddenly it affects friend groups.

And that's been documented and studied.

So

it's very strange, especially because when I transitioned, none of that was going on.

Like literally none of it.

There's one or two trans kids in Europe.

The whole continent of Europe?

Yeah, maybe more than one or two, but like out in the media, right?

Like they would go on little news, you know, stations up there and been like, the world's youngest trans kid, but it was a European thing they're always doing stuff first yeah and then in america it was more of like no but you can do that when you're an adult which makes sense

and uh

all of a sudden it's almost synonymous with the word minor people don't even really talk about adults that much unless it comes with sports which is also messed up um

so it's it's it's just

a really like annoying group to be a part of, even though I'm really not.

If I'm part of a group, it's an American, it's a human being, it's a Christian.

And even that, I don't see myself as part of a group as a Christian either because I believe that's a personal relationship with God.

So I don't really do groups, you know?

Yeah, because you don't want to label yourself something and then get boxed in, right?

And some of them are inevitable.

Like, I mean, I could say I'm anti-group all I want, but when I run for office, it's going to be Republican because you have to do

what you got to do, but it doesn't mean you have to govern like that.

It doesn't mean you have to make decisions that are in line with that.

And

I mean, I will for the most part, but I'm also an

independent person and a free thinker.

So that's why I can critique Trump right now in the midst of all the Israel and Epstein stuff.

Respect.

Do you feel like the trans stuff was pushed on kids really heavily lately?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, putting the books in middle schools, everyone's seen that.

The programming, I mean, literal programming, mind control on television, showing it.

And this sort of lore surrounding it that it solves all your problems and that if you don't do it, you're going to delete yourself.

You know, they, they emotionally blackmail parents into if you don't give your kid this surgery when they don't feel like a boy or a girl, they're going to off themselves.

And that's so ugly and so untrue.

And I think that's such a horrible, like,

want to talk about black magic.

That's like a spell you're casting on this, on this innocent young soul.

How do you know they're going to off themselves if they don't get a surgery, if they don't take a drug?

That's so.

horrific.

Right.

And I don't even think the stats bear that out.

All those stats come from activist groups that have an incentive to make themselves off to be the biggest victims possible.

And so I don't even believe that as many trans people are suicidal as people say.

Like I've known,

I probably know more trans people than like anyone, just because I connect with people all over the world online and in person due to who I am.

I've never

probably hundreds of trans friends.

None of them have

not made it.

You know what I mean?

Like, so I don't believe half those numbers.

They're activist numbers.

And you have, you need to to leave kids alone.

Flat out.

Kids need to be able to develop into who they're going to be.

And

I also am an American who believes in freedom.

So if when they're 18, they want to start making appointments and do their thing,

God bless.

Hope it works out for you.

But banking on a 13-year-old becoming sterilized for life, you can't make that decision.

So very anti-when you see like Red Pull guys saying being trans is like a mental condition, like a mental health issue.

What do you say to that?

Oh, it totally is.

Oh, you agree with them?

Yeah.

Just like there's a lot of things that are mental health conditions, you know, there's autism, there's depression, there's anxiety, there's all sorts of things.

And so I think that there's a stigma against the word mental illness or mental disorder, but it's been recognized as such, gender dysphoria at least, in the DSM-5 and throughout academic literature since the beginning.

You know, a lot of people have just heard about this issue in the past few years since it becomes so politicized.

But there has been literature on this, psychological literature, for 100 years now.

And it's always been classified as some sort of disorder.

But there's all sorts of disorders that you can still function through life.

You know what I mean?

I'm still a tax paying, like good citizen.

I don't flip out on people.

And then there's people who are schizophrenic that sometimes have to be in hospitals because they will attack people.

So just the word mental disorder, I mean, I personally believe that that actually people could have empathy for that.

But if you're just saying you are a man, you are a woman, end of discussion, it's kind of like, okay, well, don't you think something with your neurological wiring would make you feel that way, aka a disorder?

Right.

And

I'm also just of the opinion that like, it's not a bad thing to have a disorder necessarily.

Like, autism is people's superpower.

You know, I've helped a lot of people in my life because I'm trans.

I've made content that has saved people's lives.

They say that all the time.

You know, I get to interview Epstein survivors.

And am I ignorant to the fact that I probably wouldn't be as known if I wasn't trans?

Of course, that's a window into knowing me.

People know me as that.

It's the first thing on Wikipedia, a trans political commentator.

So I'm thankful for everything God has put in my life.

And, you know,

it is what it is.

I also have anxiety.

I'm not like ashamed to say I have anxiety.

Yeah.

How bad is it these days?

Oh, it's bad.

It's bad.

We got bombs dropping, pedos flying the world still.

You have a lot of empathy, it sounds like, for people.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm not one of those people that's like, I'm an empath, but I'm a human being capable of empathy.

And unfortunately, I think a lot of people aren't.

I think people are numb.

People are numb.

Yeah.

Just so much bad stuff in the news.

They're just, I don't know if they lose their empathy, you know.

And there's so much

the way that the system works and the way that the elites work is they do traumatize us collectively.

And what they know about trauma, and you can look at all the MK Ultra declassifications, you can look at the science on trauma and what it does to the brain.

When trauma occurs, suggestibility skyrockets.

Wow.

So that's why you can do a 9-11 and then immediately be like, we have to put all these laws into place now for your safety.

And it ends up being things that take away our freedom.

And now we're all getting sexually assaulted in the TSA forever as if we're terrorists because we all said, yes, we have to do that right after the trauma, right?

So like COVID, how many things about society changed that we don't even necessarily recognize because they were able to just, you know, yeah, we have to walk on this line in the grocery store and six feet and and don't breathe the air it's because our suggestibility was skyrocketed because we just went through this huge trauma of like a pandemic yeah a lot of people bought that six foot rule and it's so silly looking back on that one right it's terrifying remembering because i lived in hollywood at the time and um i i remember them like filling up the skate park with with sand and and having the the National Guard with guns on the beach because you couldn't breathe the fresh air.

You know, that is so demonic and scary to me.

And

like like I said, that's what I ran from.

But now I want to run back and just make sure that doesn't happen anymore.

Because California is a beautiful state.

And that's why they invert it so heavily.

That's why they, you know, govern it the way they do.

They're destroying beauty.

It's what they do.

Hollywood took over too, I think.

Oh, yeah.

Hollywood's been, that was a scientist day one.

They make the programming we all watch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's crazy to see how many wars and still new wars starting from 9-11.

Right.

Right.

And that's why for me, I am not ashamed to be anti-war.

I think lately there's a lot of people trying to gaslight people who are anti-war.

You know, they called people on the right, they called us panicans if we were freaking out about Trump siding with Israel and bombing Iran, as if the bombing of people isn't something to panic about.

So that's number one.

It's like World War III and Epstein, that makes me a panican.

I'm okay panicking about child sex trafficking and dropping bombs on people.

But

what was I trying to say?

9-11 war.

Oh, yeah.

That's the thing.

The biggest reason why I'm anti-war forever is that they never actually give us the real reasons we go to war.

So how can I consent to something I don't even know what you're putting me into, right?

So like there's so many side missions, classified shit that we're not allowed to know about that happens in all these wars.

The reason they give you on the TV when they put on the suit and say, we're going to war right now, is not even close to the real reason.

It's probably the most benign reason.

And then behind it is all these secret block operations they want to do.

You know, like, why were they looking for Gilgamesh's tomb in Iraq?

Like, why is that a thing?

Why did Hillary Clinton talk about that in the emails and WikiLeaks, right?

So it's a lot behind everything.

So you have to be anti-war because it's not like you know the reason anyways.

I'll never forget the weapons of mass destruction programming that I saw on the news every day as a kid.

And now to find out that was all BS is just like, because I saw my cousins literally go to war and some of them died for that.

It's like.

And it's so hard because it's such an emotionally charged topic that, you know, a lot of veterans don't want to hear that.

And I respect that they don't want to be told that maybe they participated in something that is something other than what they thought.

But

it doesn't just affect veterans.

It affects all of us and the world we're living in.

And

that entire war was a lie.

And I also

believe 9-11 was largely a lie.

And

I just think we're living in something completely fake.

And until we reckon with that and find new solutions, we're going to continue living in that.

There's a lot of concerning evidence on 9-11 at this point.

Right.

And that was sort of my,

I remember watching like InfoWars when I was probably 11 years old, which is like

literally.

And it's actually very like simulation-y because Alex Jones was my first interview ever.

Oh, wow.

First person to interview me when I first started.

But, you know, know, those old days, especially, he's still amazing and he's a friend, but those old days, especially sneaking into Bohemian Grove.

Oh, he was draw back in the day.

Right.

And

why we're still paying taxes after that is crazy.

Yeah.

You know, all this stuff can sound crazy until you remember, oh, yeah, they were in the woods doing a mock sacrifice to Moloch.

So

shout out to Alex, though.

He set the groundwork for people like us to step in, right?

Yeah,

he is the reason why a lot of people have the careers they have right now in this space.

And he's OG.

Have you talked to Ben Shapiro since your debate with him many years ago?

No, but I he blocked me because I clown him a lot.

Oh, you did?

Yeah, I'm like the OG Ben Shapiro hater.

I'll say hater because I don't hate anybody, but

you know, he's bad on gun laws.

He's pro-vaccine.

He's pro-Israel before America.

He's just everything I feel like he shouldn't be if you're pro-America, which is the, you know, and just the fact that when the Epstein stuff came out, he just believed it right away Mm-hmm The government said so and that sort of mentality I think is just so antithetical towards the liberation of humanity Because you should treat everything the government says as a lie first 100% anybody who's like well That's good enough same with Charlie Kirk.

I'm believing my friends in the government I'm a little concerned about Charlie.

I just filmed a lot at his event, but it's like can you have your own opinions?

You know what I mean?

And he, you know, nobody is the sum of only the things they're wrong about or the things are bad or good.

Everyone's a human being in the middle.

But so Charlie Kirk has done a lot of good work for Republicans, for conservatism.

He's, you know, maybe not red pilled a lot of young people, but he's like pink pills a lot of them, you know?

And so there's value in that.

But

the sentence, I'm going to trust my friends in the government, just so crazy to come out of a conservative's mouth.

Yeah.

And, you know, a lot of people, it's like, Yeah, it's, it's the, the tranny conservative over here saying that, but it's like, it's still the truth.

I could be a green goblin.

It's still the truth coming out of my mouth.

So

we need new people talking right now about things.

We need new people.

Yeah.

I think a major issue with both of those like people is you got to rely on the donors and they're, they're going to be in your ear, you know, that they need donors to keep the business running.

Right.

And that's why taking money in politics is so ugly.

And

it just, it just freezes you.

And so all of a sudden you can't criticize.

Israel.

It's like, I'm sorry, if money comes out of my paycheck every month and it goes straight to the bombs that are dropping on children, I have a right to say something.

I have a right to even be mad about it.

And the further it goes, especially

the disproportionate reaction, the longer it goes.

How many kids do need to die?

And it's not even just about kids.

Grown men don't need to be dying for this.

No, no human needs to be dying for the sins of just a few elites at the top that want to kill each other or want to take land or whatever, or because their religious text gives them the supposed right to to do that and and and obviously muslims are still guilty of that too you know islam permits a lot of stuff that's why suicide bombers exist but we're under this delusion that that's the only religion that permits evil acts and it's just not the truth even christianity does in certain passages but it we don't live like that christians have moved past a lot of the stuff we're like you know what probably not going to stone kids for dishonoring their parents But a lot of these other religions, certain things they have not moved past.

You can't just kill someone who's an infidel or whatever.

So

we got to figure something out.

We have to.

Hopefully, soon.

A lot of people have been dying.

And it doesn't seem to have an end in sight.

It's like, what is the plan here?

Yeah.

You know, and if the plan is getting back for October 7th, I feel like they have.

We can stop now, right?

I feel like you guys have.

I feel like way more people have died now on the other side.

And

when it comes to starving children and shooting people trying to get food and aid, setting up a fake aid to shoot the vict

crazy.

That is,

and I don't even use the word satanic as a pun.

That is satanic as shit.

That is, that's evil.

That is, let me look at what is good and do the exact opposite.

So

they're losing a lot of people.

You know, I saw them, they, they lost people like Michael Knowles recently because they

hit a Catholic church, like the only Catholic church in Gaza.

I didn't think Knowles since he's under Daily Wire, right?

I know.

That's how bad it is.

That's how bad it is.

And to speak

in defense of people and of Israel, you know, people from Israel, it's kind of like, I don't want you guys to feel like your back is so against the wall that everyone's turning on you.

I really don't, because that is still just as much of a chance of something ugly happening.

I don't want you guys to be persecuted.

I don't want you to be hated.

I don't want any of that.

And we've seen throughout history what happens when

this group or others just become so hated.

And that's satanic as well.

But you gotta compromise a little bit you can't act as if israel is the perfect state they can do no wrong

and if you have anything to say about it's blood libel or it's anti-semitic or hateful because people feel very comfortable all day long saying stuff about christianity and definitely muslims

doesn't mean you hate them But for some reason, the standard is different.

It's way different.

Yeah.

We got legislature in this country about anti-Semitism.

Right.

And that happened in Texas.

So people are like, oh, she's fleeing Texas because they're too conservative for her.

Well, I guess in a sense, yeah, because they're making it that you can't criticize Judy.

Oh, that was in Texas.

Wasn't it in Texas?

Just, yeah.

Wow.

That's surprising.

In Texas?

Red State?

Yeah.

That is interesting.

But that's, that's the interesting thing is that conservatives are more pro-Israel right now than even the left.

Yeah.

You know, and not even all conservatives.

It's split there too, but

it's, it's scary because, like I said, I don't want disproportionate hate hate towards people.

And anyone who blames the average person for anything happening is just as sick as the people who are doing that.

I'm not a fan of that.

No.

So you stubbed your toe.

It's not always, okay.

But there also is, you know,

it just goes so deep, but there is esoteric versions of all the three major religions that people, the elites, practice that you don't.

So like there's a version of Christianity the elites practice that you don't.

There's a version of

that they consider to be the real version that you don't know.

Really?

Esoteric is Kabbalah.

I've heard of Kabbalah.

Right.

And Kabbalah is very,

it's, it compasses a lot,

but it basically can be used as a tool for extreme psychological manipulation, which is unfortunately something people are known for.

Wow.

It's, it's, if you know Kabbalah, you're basically a master psychologist.

That's one of the things.

So you know every kind of situation, like, you know, character types of people.

So you're able to, this person has daddy issues.

You can spot it like that.

You learn psychology really well in Kabbalah.

And there's other things too there's um

magical and ritualistic aspects of it too

and then esoteric christianity that'd be gnosticism esoteric islam uh sufism

and the elites practice you know these ones

the middle classes you get regular scripture and regular regular religion that is crazy i did not know that i need to look into that i had a kabbalah expert on the show oh yeah so he could just read me

i had no idea yeah it's been on toys actually it's one of the many things Kabbalah encompasses.

Yeah.

And doesn't mean everyone knows Kabbalah.

And I bet a lot of people don't even know that people at the top of their religion practice Kabbalah.

Just like a lot of people don't know that at the top of Christianity, you have like Rosicrucians and Gnostics.

And that's why there's Rosicrucian iconography and symbols at the Vatican.

Like the people at the top of these religions don't practice what you think they do.

And they actually stigmatize those things publicly so that no one looks into it.

So you're not allowed to look at the banned books of the Bible.

You know what I mean?

Because that would be of the devil.

Because all the Bible is just perfect the way that the Vatican says it needs to be.

Meanwhile, they have Rosicrucian symbolism all over

evil stuff about the Vatican, to be honest.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

Dark, dark stuff.

Right.

That's why, you know, for me, my, my belief in God is a personal relationship with God.

It's a one-way communication or two-way, and it doesn't involve what anybody else practices.

Right.

And I'm very dead set on, you know,

interpreting the Bible how I believe that God is steering me to interpret it, you know, which is why I don't stone children when I see them disobeying their parents and why I also understand that there's passages about trans and gay.

Well, not trans actually.

It's like that word didn't exist back then, but, you know,

Jesus is for everybody.

So I have that relationship and I'm just learning about it still.

I'm been a Christian for about two years.

Nice.

Yeah.

I mean, I personally think these days that's the way to go because so many churches are compromised.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

Like I'd rather just learn on my own, maybe with a couple friends.

Yeah.

I think that's the way to do it.

Yeah.

You look at Jehovah's Witness and just as an example, we can go through many, a million, but Jehovah's Witnesses, how they are, there's a lot of evidence that there's rituals that go on at their headquarters, satanic rituals.

Wow.

You know, people create churches to manipulate people too, you know, and that's why

From my understanding of the Bible, it's about you and Jesus.

It's not about you and the church and the institutions that are always going to lie and control you, right?

It's about

that salvation and that

number you can call up and talk to God whenever you want to.

Yeah, these churches these days are companies.

Yeah, you look at what is it called?

I saw Tyler Olivera did a video covering it, the prosperity Christianity or something.

I saw that one.

He has died like 80 acres or something.

Right.

And like basically worshiping money, which is satanic.

Yeah.

You know, so

when I first started talking online about Christianity, a lot of people were telling me, go to this church, go to this church.

Can't wait for you to go to church.

And for me, I was like, well, why can't I read and study the Bible on my own and make up my own mind about it?

Especially considering like a lot of pastors don't know what they're talking about.

And I'm by no means an expert.

But when you're talking about God wants you to be a millionaire, it's like God does not want you to worship the dollar bill with the occult pyramid and the all-seeing eye on it.

You know what I mean?

He just doesn't.

I just started reading the Bible last week.

Really?

Yeah.

Love it.

Yeah.

I think it's important to, I have on a lot of Christian guests, so I want to be able to understand what they're saying sometimes, you know.

Yeah.

And

it's, it's a text that is both historical, metaphorical, literal, all of the above.

That's why it's complicated.

There's certain things you have to take as a metaphor.

There's certain things that are probably way more historically accurate than we even want to believe.

And I personally think a lot of the more like paranormal stuff is very real and factual, you know, all the fallen angel stuff that they took out.

I think that's what aliens are personally.

Fallen angels.

I can see that.

Yeah, because the story is the same between, you know, all the government whistleblowers come out and say that the aliens are giving humans technology.

What did they do in the book of Enoch?

They're giving humans technology.

And that was their, you know, sin, supposedly from God.

So

I don't think they're little green men.

I think they're probably the...

the non-human entities that have been with us forever.

And through all the translations, they get called different things.

Sometimes they're angels, sometimes they're demons, sometimes they're demons, sometimes they're, you know, fallen.

And then there's disagreements about if that's really,

you know, they're fallen or if they're good angels.

So

it's a lot.

Yeah, it is.

What's the typical Christian stance on trans?

Because I know growing up, the gay thing was a huge deal.

What about trans?

There is no,

from my understanding, you know, trans as the concept as it is now, as I would fall under, wasn't a thing until, you know, the past few hundred years.

years.

But there is a passage about men wearing women's clothes, which is, again, it's kind of like one of those in my mind, the way I see it is, it's not that I disregarded it and I wanted to figure out if I needed to adhere to that because I could still be trans and wearing men's clothes.

I'm wearing blue jeans right now.

But it's kind of like the whole like, don't wear mixed fabrics things in my mind in the Bible.

It's kind of like no one follows that and it doesn't mean it's right or wrong, but you look at fashion, what is considered men and women's clothing, right?

It's like the founding fathers wore wigs and makeup and high heels and gowns.

They were wearing more women's stuff than I am right now.

So then it's like, okay, so does God keep up with fashion trends and what's considered men and women's at different times?

Women wear blue jeans right now.

They would fall into the same sin as I am, you know, wearing men's clothing while being a woman, wearing jeans.

So for me, I don't believe that God

is too hung up on my flesh.

I don't think that, you know, God is too hung up on the clothes I'm wearing.

I think God cares a lot more about if I'm fighting for good in the world, which I try to do every day.

And if at the end, it's like, you did all that good, but you wore a woman's shirt once in a while.

It's kind of like,

I guess I'll, I guess I'll own that.

But in my mind, if you can be Christian on death row, reading those books right before you die, if you can be working at Lockheed making bombs that are going to go drop on kids and claim Christian, I can claim Christian and be be trans, you know?

A lot of fake Christians these days.

Right, right.

And some people would maybe say that about me, but I don't know.

Half of y'all are having babies out of wedlock and so claim Christian.

So we're all fallen and that's the point.

And that's why Jesus died for us.

So

we can choose, right?

Right, right.

We all do some level of picking and choosing and

a clothing.

line in the Bible is kind of like,

I guess I do choose a little bit.

Yeah, no one's perfect.

I mean, I hate when people people put on this perfect persona.

Where is it?

It's like a red flag.

And I wear a hoodie just like you wear every day.

I wear blue jeans.

I could technically be the exact same person right now and just wear men's clothing.

Yeah.

So.

Respect.

Because I know they were hating on all the gay people when I was growing up.

That was like a huge deal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I grew up in that time.

So I remember it as well.

And that was obviously before I transitioned.

So I got the gay stuff too, the gay hate or whatever.

And it is unfortunate because I think it would benefit everyone if gay and trans people felt more comfortable having a relationship with God.

Because you see a lot of godless behavior of that community.

You see pride parades where things are so ugly and inappropriate for the public.

You see support for things like, you know, child transitions.

You see support for, you know, all sorts of things that I consider to be evil and harmful.

And I think that if gay and trans people have more of a relationship with God, it would benefit everyone because there would be less of that.

You know, like, I don't like that a lot of gay and trans people feel turned off or like they can't have a relationship with God.

I've never really felt that pressure.

I always just,

I have a lot of spiritual trauma from my childhood and my family's beliefs.

And I think that steered me away from looking into God until pretty recently in my life.

But I'm so glad I did because it changed my life.

It opened up everything.

I feel like I was literally born again.

Wow.

You know, I feel like my brain finally developed.

I feel like I understood the universe finally.

Like, oh yeah, it's God.

I love that.

Yeah.

Super cool.

Yeah, you were kicked out of the Austin Pride Festival.

Oh, yeah.

What did you do there?

I was just asking people their opinions on things like child transition, men and women sports, all the hot topics, basically.

Nothing was fringe.

Everything was like, there's articles about it every day.

And the security like got all mad and kicked me out and followed me around, threatened me.

Because like I said, I'm like kind of the Baldemort of that community.

Wow.

Yeah, they hate me.

No free speech, huh?

Yeah, I guess not.

Not for me.

Not for me.

It's kind of like, it's like the trans people, you know, support trans people, but not wear white.

And the Christians are like, Jesus for everybody, but not trans people.

It's like,

there's just no consistency with people.

But that's why being an individual is so important.

And that's why I do reject collectivism so heavily.

And that's why I, you know, fell into more of a right-wing ideology as an adult really early, because I recognized.

I'm not a collective.

I'm not a cog in the machine.

I'm an individual person.

And there still is a lot of collectivism on the right, but it's less than on the left where it's just so high mind.

Yeah.

You know, we got to kick this trans person out of the private, right?

It's like, that's crazy.

Yeah.

There was one tweet that I wanted to ask you about.

You said being conservative is harder than being trans.

Did I say that?

Yeah.

I don't remember that.

What was the context?

Like, I don't know.

I pulled that, though.

I thought that was interesting.

Being conservative is hard.

I probably read something like that.

Yeah.

I mean, I definitely get more hate for it.

You know, people think that maybe I would get more hate from conservatives.

It's really not the case.

I

open my phone and it's just a stream of leftists being like, shoot yourself in the head.

Jeez.

You know what I mean?

Fuck you.

You're sucking the white man's boot or whatever the fuck they say.

I've gotten doxxed at every place I dropped away from leftists.

I've never had a conservative dox me.

How do they get your address?

It's crazy.

It was like every place I moved, like within like a month, it's out.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

There was even like an AI video I saw on TikTok and it was about the articles written about me this week.

And it was like, where am I moving to California?

And it showed like a Google Earth of my actual house.

What?

And I don't live in some like, usually when I see that, they'll be like, oh, did he move to a new mega mansion?

This is like 40,000 acre, whatever.

And I just live in like a condo.

It's like fucking like $800,000.

That's crazy.

And like,

why are you showing my house?

So.

Did you put the house in a trusp?

No.

I don't know how that, I don't know how I was doxxed.

We'll talk off camera.

Yeah.

Okay.

There's ways to prevent that, but that's, that's fucked off.

I was doxed pretty quick.

I'm not a fan of doxing for any situation, like, no matter what.

It's disgusting.

And we can't, we, we need dialogue and we can't have it if that's, you know, and I see why a lot of trans people, because I don't want to overplay how much they hate me because it is split.

You know, I have a lot of gay and trans supporters, but they're very silent because they see what I get.

So they're like.

I'll get them like I'll be walking down the street and someone will come up and be like, I'm trans and I love your opinions.

I could never say them, but love you, thank you and i'm like well i kind of wish you did it'd be a little less crazy just me out here by myself but a lot of shame and guilt in that community right

yeah yeah and it's a lot of um

a lot of them end up getting estranged from their families so like these leftists around them are become their families whereas for me i would rather be alone than in a group of people who first of all support things i don't support

and are fake enough to disown me because i might think differently right like i lost all my friends in the sort of like leftist trans world when i first started my youtube channel like overnight i'd lost like all my friends wow yeah and all i was talking about at that point was like i think just like feminism like that old back when politics

yeah feminism yeah that's before the politics

yeah i'd imagine most of the trans are on the left now that i think about it i can't think of any on the right

caitlin

me and caitlin are like the old you and caitlin that's it yeah and uh it's crazy because people act like that's so like how is that a thing?

And it's like, you know, I also like care about the border and like the amount of taxes I'm paying and like foreign policy and war and like a million other things other than trans.

So like I said, I don't walk around as like trans first.

I walk around as a human being, an American.

So I've got to have, I have to be okay with like an open border because I'm trans.

It's just weird.

It makes sense.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, have fun paying more taxes in Cali.

Right.

That's the thing.

I'm taking L's going back for y'all.

So maybe just say thank you.

Yeah, your opponent's probably gonna raise millions of dollars with the funding, you know.

You got a tough road ahead of you.

Yeah, I have enough life.

Everything's been a tough road.

It's not like it's been easy coming this far.

Yeah, well, thanks for what you do.

Where can people watch your show and everything?

They can find my YouTube channel, they can find my podcast, The Blair White Project.

I think I'm pretty much the only person with that name, so just look up Blair White, and I'm on everything.

Awesome.

Check her out, guys.

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