Kristopher London: How a Career-Ending Injury Created a YouTube Legend | DSH #1577

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Join Kristopher London as he shares his incredible journey of resilience, transformation, and success. From overcoming career-ending injuries to finding his true calling in content creation, Kris opens up about how social media transformed his career forever. Discover how he turned setbacks into opportunities, built a thriving YouTube channel, and inspired millions with his passion for basketball and storytelling. This episode dives into the power of perseverance, the impact of personal branding, and the changing landscape of sports and digital media. If you’ve ever wondered how to turn challenges into triumphs, this is a must-watch! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring stories.💥 What You’ll Learn👉 How injuries and depression led Kris London to YouTube success👉 The origin of basketball YouTube culture — before 1v1s went viral👉 The business of content creation and working with the NBA👉 How social media changed sports forever👉 Why personal growth matters more than followers
CHAPTERS:00:00 - How tall is Jiedel02:00 - Jiedel’s life-changing car accident14:05 - Kris's journey into YouTube17:34 - Modern sports consumption trends18:34 - The evolution of streaming platforms20:20 - NBA players and personal branding23:20 - Finding purpose after retirement24:05 - "Tall For Nothing" discussion28:44 - Pressure on today's youth31:19 - Bronny's $2500 summer league tickets32:14 - College athletes and video monetization34:33 - Chet Holmgren's $250M NIL deal36:14 - Criticism faced by WNBA players36:48 - Discussion on lowering WNBA rims39:38 - Future of the BIG3 league43:53 - Preference: taller or shorter?46:26 - Thoughts on quitting content creation52:20 - Avoiding the content hamster wheel54:22 - Insights on Jalen Green57:50 - Understanding NBA contracts59:45 - The GOAT debate in basketball1:02:40 - Where to find Chris online1:03:16 - Call to action: Like & SubscribeAPPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/applicationBUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.comGUESTS : Kristopher Londonhttps://www.facebook.com/IamKrisLondonSPONSORS: THERASAGE: https://therasage.com/LISTEN ON:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team.While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate.Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice.We have done our best to present the facts as we see them, however, we make no guarantees or promises regarding the accuracy, completeness, or reliability of the information provided. In addition, the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the producers of this program.
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No, dude, I haven't played Fortnite in years.

I'm on MLB the show right now.

That's why I like it because I'm like, yo, this is a challenge.

And then now you got to compete with cheaters with rigged controllers and stuff.

That's really why I don't game anymore.

It's just, there's too many cheaters.

I'm very competitive.

So in the eyes of playing online, I want it to be fair.

So I just, all right, I'll be an offline player.

Plus, I'm an old head now, so I've just accepted my faith.

Yeah.

All right, guys, got someone taller than me today.

Hello.

Yeah, it's only happened, I think, five times on the show.

You know, I'm always that guy.

Yeah.

Just, you know, be the taller person for the day.

And some people need it, you know, just to kind of

someone to look up to for once.

I'm sure it's the most common question you get asked how tall you are.

I'm six foot ten.

But, you know, I've been gaming for about a decade now, so I'm probably like six, nine, to be honest.

You do shrink as you age.

You know, because especially sitting in a chair a lot of times, you know, you kind of shrink and I got bad posture.

So Fortnite?

No, dude, I haven't played Fortnite in years.

I'm more, I'm on MLB the show right now.

Whoa,

I was a 2K guy, but you know, now I'm playing baseball and I'm ass.

Damn, that sounds like a hard game to get good at.

No, it is actually very hard, but that's why I like it because I'm like, yo, this is a challenge.

And now I'm, you know, I'm actually hitting the ball on rookie.

So, okay, okay.

I'm getting there.

Were you nice at 2K?

Were you playing ranked and everything?

You know, I like to say I was an entertainer on the 2K stick, so I wasn't competitive.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Those guys that compete are insane.

They don't miss.

They're like glitches, man.

And then now you got to compete with cheaters with rigged controllers and stuff, so I'm good.

Is that a thing?

That's really why I don't game anymore.

It's just there's too many cheaters.

And it's like, I'm very competitive.

So

in the eyes of playing online, I want it to be fair.

And a lot of companies just don't have good anti-cheat.

So I just.

all right i'll be an offline player plus i'm an old head now so i've just accepted my fate yeah you know It's crazy that people are cheating on controller now because I've been a PC gamer my whole life and people always cheated, but never on controllers growing up.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I mean, with the technology now, too, I don't know if it's just a thing to, you know, hard to keep up with or what, but yeah, there's definitely guys.

I think it's called a Zen.

I don't know what it is in 2025, but yeah, for the last few years, man, guys have been just zenning on 2K.

And you can notice it if they're using it.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

You'll know.

What are they doing?

Like, how do you know?

So it's like, you get a perfect release from like half court consistently.

Like one, okay.

But like three, dude, like, it's just, it's, and they don't even hide it because they know like they're not going to get banned or whatever.

So once I've seen that, and again, I haven't played 25, so I don't know if they actually did get patched, but 24, 23, like, yeah, it was good.

What's the best 2K, in your opinion?

Ooh, great question.

As an OG, man, I was really like,

I got to say 16 and 17 were my favorite warriors um yeah 2k 16 17.

i think it was kd on the cover and paul george paul george might have been 18 i don't know whatever paul george was on the cover that was probably my favorite 2k pg was on the cover yeah it was like uh was that him on the thunder or was uh i think it was pacers oh pacers okay yeah right before he got like started getting traded the injuries yeah what a career he could have had right

you know yeah man he could have been I feel like he was on his way to be MVP, honestly.

I wouldn't be surprised.

He was competing with Braun.

Yeah.

There was one year, and I think it was recently with the Clippers.

Like, he was in top three running, and then the injuries just,

he was just battling injuries constantly.

And you can relate to that issue.

I can.

I can.

That's pretty much my story, man, on how I even got here in the first place.

Like, if it wasn't for injuries, I probably wouldn't be sitting here, honestly.

Injuries and concussions.

Concussions, yes.

I've had my history with those.

those.

Not even basketball related, crazy enough.

Everyone kind of assumes, like, oh, how do you get, you know, concussion in basketball?

Well, it didn't start in basketball.

I was just in two bad car accidents in high school that kind of followed into my basketball career because I was more receptive to having a concussion with any kind of blow to the head.

And I got elbowed.

a couple times and like right in between the eyes and then I was getting concussions in games and then I lost my scholarships.

Um,

you know, just kind of talking about that.

Yeah, there was a I think it was going into my junior year when the accident happened, the car accident, and I had about 10 D1 offers,

and then I missed that whole summer because I just couldn't play without it.

I actually tried to play.

I went to an AAU circuit here in Vegas.

Oh, yeah, and I just couldn't do it.

Like, the lights, I remember just it, I could not play with my lights.

That was a bad accident, though.

Yeah, it was really bad

how fast were they going?

Dude,

I'll be honest.

I don't it was like a country road

It's kind of like a traumatic story a little bit just because

a lot like the people involved like

there's so many things that I wasn't aware of because

Like my dad like sued like the girl like everything and he and I'm not trying to bring that back up and I don't know, you know, what they're doing.

Like, I have no idea who these people are anymore because it was like in high school, you know, 10-12 years ago.

Jeez.

And

yeah, long story short, basically, like, my dad, I think he made a lawsuit from it because of all the scholarships that I like lost.

So, that's money that I lost.

But, and then I think we got some back, and because of that, and I had no idea.

So, then the guy that I was in the car with, that was his girl at the time.

And, yeah, we like swerved off the road it was raining and it was some crazy shit you would not believe like how that even transpired because it's like why would she take the keys out of the car fuck with it while you're driving like what's funny about that like i saw a tick tock the other day where they were making a skit of how like a girl would like to like grab the wheel and like swerve it just to be funny And like, that's literally like what happened.

Like, she was just trying to be funny by touching the wheel, grabbing it, making him kind of stirrup because there's no one there it's like a back country road and then it just started raining and i'm like i just remember telling her like hey guys like this isn't funny like what the fuck are we doing and we're on the way to a basketball game yeah i'm going to my high school basketball game and long

before you know it he couldn't get control hit a stop sign hit a tree rolled over like it's crazy all right like that's the last thing i remember i woke up in the hospital so that's not it's crazy how one moment can just change the trajectory of your life because you were training your whole life to be a pro hooper, right?

Yeah.

I wanted to go to the NBA,

play Division I basketball.

And, you know, thankfully, I still had one D1 offer at Oral Roberts.

That's actually where my dad went to school.

So I had a lot of connections like from the coaches because they actually, the coaching staff at that time played with my dad.

So

that connection was like already there and they really liked my game.

And plus, The scholarship that I wanted, I wanted to either like redshirt because I was really skinny.

I wanted to still develop.

I was young.

And I felt like if I just put on the weight, I could make an impact right away.

But my body was just still growing.

I was growing three inches a year in high school.

Like, I came in at 5'11.

I left 6'8.

Nuts.

You got stretch marks for days, how about?

No, dude, like my knee, and that's how I blew out my knee in sophomore years

because

my bones were just growing way faster than my muscles.

So

there was one tournament where I just was like on a fast break, wide open i thought somebody like hacked me but everybody's telling me like no bro like you were like no one was around you and it was just an easy like i was going up for a dunk and my knee like my knee just exploded holy crap yeah so then i had like a couple screws in my knee for years took them out in college then i just kept getting concussions man and lost my scholarship um

I was playing at Newman University as a D2 school.

Because at that time, I'm kind of fast-forwarding forwarding my whole YouTube story here, but

I went to a D2 school because back then you couldn't have a YouTube channel playing Division I.

So when I transferred from Oral Roberts, I went overseas to get medically cleared because I was having like a heart issue as well.

I had an irregular heart rhythm and they couldn't figure out like what was going on.

And one practice I actually had passed out and hit my head.

So I got another concussion from that.

And that's like the whole thing.

So they were like, oh, you need a pacemaker for like eight months.

So we want you to sit out another year because I was registered at Oral Roberts.

I was like, dude, no way in hell I'm sitting another year of Oral Roberts.

Like, I don't know if you know Oral Roberts, but it's not co-ed dorms.

It's like, you know, girls over here, guys over here.

The first.

day of the month, like the first of the month, you can have the door open for an hour if you got a girl and it's monitored.

Wow.

So they're not.

Yeah, it's not the college experience I was looking for.

So I felt healthy too, you know,

and I wanted to hoop.

I was just like, I'm ready to play now.

I was playing like the best basketball ever

because I was on the scout team and, you know, coaches were telling me, man, I was going to be an all-American.

Holy crap.

And so once I heard that from the head coach, I was just kind of like, okay.

Now I see what's going on.

Like, I just can't, I don't want to lose time, you know?

So even though I know if I did take that time there,

and I would probably like start that next year after the pacemaker trials or whatever.

But I was like, nah, I'll just go overseas where my family is in London, get medically cleared there.

And then I played profession with the professional team, went to school there, but I didn't take the money because I didn't want to lose my eligibility.

So I had them pay for my school while I was out there.

and got cleared, but I actually tore a ligament in my foot.

Jeez.

So that's what put me into depression was like these injuries, man.

I just kept battling and battling.

Like, yo, this may be like basketball isn't for me because it's like, I feel like every time I was kind of on my way to

that pro level, that level that I wanted to be at, an injury would come around.

And it's like, damn, is this just like a sign?

Like, this isn't for me.

Like,

and so I had to really just reflect.

And in my time.

In London, I had no friend, like, no friends there.

All my friends were back home.

And I actually didn't like London because when I was growing up, I was born in London.

That's why I'm named Chris London.

That's not my actual name.

But I just moved from London in sixth grade to

Houston.

And so I kind of had like a little accent, and everybody called me London.

And that's where I kind of got the name Chris London.

But basically.

When I moved, it was so traumatic for me because it's like going to a whole new country and I had all these friends in America.

and I was just like bro I hate it here like you know so when I went back in 2012 I was just like I'm back here where I just like despise like playing ball too it was like dude I was in sixth grade like hooping with 20 year olds because that's how bad they were over there at the time right everything's yeah everything's a little more developed now like people can hoop there now but back then it was very hard to find competition especially where i lived i'd have to drive or take a bus or a train two hours up north just to find good competition Yeah.

And then there was no gyms either.

So it's like, if I really wanted to be in the gym, like, I got to, you know, really go.

And I, my passion just wasn't.

That's when I knew too, like, thinking back, I was like, my passion for basketball wasn't really there because I'm not taking a bus or a two-hour train ride to go work out.

Like that.

I didn't want it that bad.

And that's kind of where I found myself with this YouTube.

I was like, okay, I really wanted to like make content just to like make people laugh, make people realize I'm more than just a a basketball player so i set out to be you know making skits online like literally just sitting down i didn't want people to know who i was like off offline and being a tall guy because then they would just assume and then i ask all this basketball shit which was very emotional for me at the time so i built up an audience through that um and then once i hit 100k that's when i was like okay i'll start to tell people who i am like what i what i did do and what i still striving to do

And that's when I went to college in Newman and I was kind of like showing people, like, oh, I play, but also

I can make funny videos too.

And then I got introduced to the 2K community, and that's where the shit kind of changed my life.

Off.

Yeah, forever.

Because it was like, they saw me play 2K, and they didn't realize like I actually like hooped.

But then I thought, okay, what if I took my skits?

and merged it with how I make 2K videos.

And then that's where I met like Jesser and Cash Nasty.

And we kind of came up with these concepts of playing like 1v1s in real life rather than wagers.

And in the FIFA community, like we were inspired by the Sidemen, you know, KSI.

I know Jesse, like, he would show me,

you know, like the KSI, like FIFA edits and things.

And I was like, we'd always talk about how we could kind of do that within the 2K videos because that's never, that hasn't been done yet.

And, you know, then I kind of just strived to be like,

you know, a pillar in the basketball community from that point.

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Long story short, we all just moved in together eventually after a few years of doing that.

And then that's how it all started with like two hype and um just

IRL basketball content where it is today.

I feel like that's kind of where it started.

And you were so early, dude.

Dude, so early.

Now one-on-one.

That was

2016, 17.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

That's so early.

Now one-on-one is like a whole genre.

No, I know.

And it's like, and even just basketball personality content, too.

And it's in every sport now.

You know, I remember I met,

I think they're called like good good golf or good golf.

It's a like huge, huge

golf channel I just recently seen.

I remember meeting those guys.

And they're like, yo, we like, you know, watch two hype and your 2K videos.

And like, we're going to try to like, you know, bring that to the golf world.

And so seeing them where they're at today, like, I mean, dude, they're massive.

Like, I think from what I understand, it seems like they have their own like fucking golf brand down here.

So you inspired other sports, too.

You know, and it's, and it's beautiful, bro.

Like, that's what, that's why I love YouTube.

That's why I love content creation.

That's why I encourage everybody to just like keep looking for another door, like one door closed for me and another one open.

And I just want to be like living proof that you just don't stop just find another outlet find what you love to do and then make a career out of it I love that now you're literally working with NBA like you're playing tonight yeah I'm playing tonight uh creator cup i've been doing that for a few years and i would like i've told people this too um you know i've been working with the nba for like eight years wow and that's because like when I saw where it was going in like 2016,

the NBA market wasn't even like tapped into yet.

And I was like, dude, why is the NBA not have a YouTube channel?

Like, why are they not posting videos with their NBA players, like how I post videos?

Or even like, I was trying to be that bridge where it's like, hey, let's collab, you know, show your personality so your fans feel really connected.

And so I was, I've constantly like met with the NBA this like every all-star weekend and then I saw that they bought at the time playmakers and then it was NBA playmakers and broadband and that's when I knew like okay now they're starting to understand so let me like start to talk to them even more to really help them like shape the model and everything.

And then,

you know, they kind of move slow because of the higher ups.

It's like, I get it.

Like, you know, you put an idea out, it probably won't come to fruition for another two years because they have to get it approved and everything.

And that's kind of how this Creator Cup came about too.

Like, we've been trying to do creator games.

for the longest with the NBA, like sponsored by the NBA and stuff.

And on the NBA networks, too.

It's just, it's just a blessing, man, to see how it's all come about year in, year out.

So I'm thankful for that for sure.

I have an interesting take with NBA because I know their ratings are down, but I think more people are just watching them on short form.

Oh, yeah.

Short form.

I mean,

I doom scroll all the time just watching short form.

Yeah, I watch the highlights.

Like, that's how I get my NBA news.

It's not on ESPN anymore.

It's literally like,

if it's not on their Instagram, I probably won't know about like a trade or, you know, something going along there.

No, same dude highlights i watch on youtube now i don't watch the full games as much as i used to it's just a lot i mean especially because we're older too i feel like i'm curious what like sports consumption is like for you know 10 to 18 right because for me or for us like growing up yeah you had to like watch tv to get that access and that thrill of watching you know sports and everything but now it's so accessible like on a phone and like you said short form so it's interesting man like

i don't know and now the streaming world is taking a storm i was just gonna bring that up yeah you're going hard on that right yeah i mean i i personally i'm not i'm not really hip or like like streaming too much just because

like i like tick tock like tick tock live i've been doing that just because it's a little less pressure i feel like it's more like authentic a little bit but like the twitch stuff like that scares me i don't know it's um i have on a lot of streamers.

Like it's because it has to be very structured.

I feel like the, it's, I don't want to call it saturated because like every platform is saturated.

Yeah.

But and I still don't get it.

Like I feel like I'm so like outdated.

Like I'm seeing these IRL kits, like the guys that like the biggest streamers, they'll break down their setups to me.

I'm just like, bro, what?

Like this is different.

Like back when I was streaming on Twitch, like you couldn't even do IRL like the way that they're doing it now.

And it's just like, it's crazy, but it's so cool because now there's so many more ideas that you can like do, but then it also is like,

I feel like everything's been done.

So things have to get kind of crazier.

And then if things get crazier, then it's like, it's a little scary.

And then it's like, where's the line?

Right.

So, and now I'm seeing kids blow up their houses.

Like, I saw the AMP guys, like, they are crazy, dude.

Shout out to them.

But man, the damage they did to that house.

I'm just like, okay,

how far is the skit going, man?

Like, did y'all just want to build a new crib and this is your way to like break it down

instead of hiring a contractor to do it?

Like, which if that's the case, then that's fucking genius.

But I don't think that was the play there.

But yeah, and then back to the NBA and, you know, the players streaming.

I think it's cool seeing more and more guys come into league and, you know, utilize their personal brand with social media and you know i've seen guys they stream on tick tock twitch um even interacting with streamers now too

um i think it's really cool i think just you know connecting that bridge is dope for both parties right the streamer and the athlete and sport right right because like you said the the numbers are are declining but if you got guys that come into your league that have a presence online that's how you really like get eyeballs it's because they the viewers feel like there's no real connection i have a real connection with kai sonat but i don't really have one with steph curry or lebron because they're just so you know big but you know you could make an argument that kai is more popular than steph like right you could argue that but is he real in reality probably not like there's a little it depends on like you know the crowd but

long term they're gonna have to realize you kind of have to you know get the young audience to follow along your journey to you know really convert viewership I love that they're getting into media they have podcasts now some of them are live streaming Kyrie I think Carl Anthony Towns live streams too oh yeah Kyrie's really tapped in yeah and I and that's another thing too that's crazy is like a lot of rookies like that are in the league now watched our videos and it's just like it's it's so cool like i remember i'll never forget the interaction i had with the aaron fox where it was like me and jesse were like kind of nervous you know meeting him and things because he just got drafted into the nba and then and we were vlogging this too this is in video and then we go up to him like yo d'arin what's up man he's like chris jesser like dude i was nervous coming up to you guys like he started naming all the videos and things and it's just like Then it just made everything cool.

And then we just started kicking in.

Now we like, we became friends and everything.

And it's just like, it's a small world, bro.

And, you know, you never know who's watching.

And more and more, I just find out more players watch the videos or did watch back.

Because I've been doing this since 2014.

Jeez.

So it's like 10 years in.

If a kid was 10, he's 20 now in the league.

There's a chance.

He probably came across a vid.

That's nuts.

So it's just nuts seeing that.

And that's going to be like that with these streamers.

I think that's good for the league because now they're like, okay, I'm familiar with how these guys had their personal brand like these streamers now they can kind of like coexist and help build their brands like i've had nba guys reach out to me like like how to strategize their youtube channels and things and i help with that and i think it's cool i think it's they need to do that um not that they need any more money i just think it's good for their audience their mental health too yeah to have purpose after they retire yeah that's a big thing too i think a lot of guys just don't really have that after they retire they don't and they don't know any better you know I'm even, I've been talking with the NBA to kind of like during the summer league, I like have a,

I don't know what you want to call it, like a

panel for rookies and, you know, building their social media presence and just kind of lay it down like, hey, you know, you guys are coming into league.

This is what you could do online to help your personal brand and what you shouldn't do.

They definitely need to know like what you shouldn't do.

But yeah, and I think that's just pretty important too,

just going into the going into the.

I think so too, man.

Because the average NBA career is three years, right?

I don't know.

Is it three years?

It's something like that, yeah.

I know NFL is 2.4.

NBA is a little longer, I believe.

It has to be a little longer, I would hope.

Yeah.

NFL, yeah, that's got to be super short, bro.

Either way, it's not long, though.

Yeah.

And

that's the thing, dude.

Like, my dream was literally just to be like the 15th player in the NBA.

Like, not even, like, you never see me on the court.

I just wanted to make a roster.

I just wanted to be on the roster, make my M's, and fucking use it to build a business.

Like, that, that was my end goal.

And funny enough, I'm kind of doing the same thing, but a little more fun.

And I'm like going to the NBA games, interacting with the NBA.

You got more fun.

Making money.

Yeah, exactly.

So it's like, you know, the comments of like, oh, tall for nothing, you know, this, that, and the third.

People say that.

Oh, dude, tall for nothing, waisted height.

How's this guy not in the NBA?

All these things.

but

you know, and in

another world, I'm in the NBA, kind of.

Well, there's thousands of 6'10 people.

Yeah.

So I don't know if that's a good argument.

Yeah, you know, dude, I could go on for days about my thoughts on just like being a tall person and how people kind of like look at me as not a human.

Like, it's like, for example, it's like, if I go into a store, right?

The first thing they say to me is like, who do you play for?

Like,

like, you know what I mean?

It's not like, hey, how you doing?

I'm really like, you're really tall.

Like, you know, kind of start the conversation.

No, who do you play for?

Oh, you don't play in the NBA?

Fuck off.

Like, yo,

I don't know, man.

And that used to like hurt me.

You know, back when I was in, you know, my depression of just like, I couldn't look at a basketball for like two years because of just how I felt like.

I felt like I failed like my life, right?

Just because like those, like people would come up to me daily, like reminding me like that I should be playing.

Jeez.

But it's like, I don't want to or I can't.

Like it's not, like, I just, I was, there's all these mental hurdles, right?

And, you know, it took a really long time for me to just be confident in myself, right?

And find that peace because

I just was pressured by

outside noise and like living through other people and not through myself.

Because I, there was times where like random dudes, like random people.

I was working in a suit and tie store I'll never I talked about this on my videos where a guy just came in and this is when I like quit basketball I dropped out of school I was working two jobs trying to build my YouTube career really like get it going so I had to get you know another like two like real jobs and then I was filming videos I started just starting my gaming channel and everything and a guy randomly comes into the store It's like, I know who you are, man.

And you got to get back out there.

You got the talent.

And don't let this like injuries, all this stuff, like fool you.

Like, you can do it.

Just go out there and do it.

But you're wasting your life here.

Damn.

Like, just straight up, just random.

Like, I don't even know who this dude is.

And I genuinely was like, yo, is this like a message from God?

Like, like, what is this?

Like, this is crazy.

But then one of my coworkers,

he was an older guy, like my OG kind of thing.

And he just pulled me to the side, like, telling me how, like, nah, that, like, he's just deflecting onto you.

Like, he wants you to live his dream.

Like, let's say you go play, hurt yourself, get another concussion, can't remember your name.

You got kids, can't remember, like, you know what I'm saying?

Just all those things that come from multiple concussions.

And where's he going to be?

He's not going to talk to you or know where you're at or check on you if you're in the hospital.

And that kind of perspective just changed like everything for me.

I was like, damn, yeah.

So, all these people that I'm trying to like

impress, right, or like live for, like, you know what I mean?

Because I really just want to, i feel like as an entertainer that's like what you do is like you try to entertain people and please the masses and everything but once i started making content for just me and like and just

you know i saw like another clip a while ago where it was like the best way to get out of you know being sad is like do something to make somebody else smile

So that's where I came with like the comedy skits.

So if I'm making people laugh, eventually I'm going to start laughing too.

And then,

yeah, that's kind of how I live with my content, right?

It's like I try to make people, kids, like enjoy the game in a different perspective.

So, they can, they don't have to be the most skilled player, they can just go out there and have fun with their friends.

I love that, dude, because I hear a lot of pressure on these kids in the AAU circuit these days, and a lot of their parents are living through them.

Yeah, and they want them to play pro and stuff.

Exactly, you know, I have kids now, and you know, I'm trying to figure out that path for how I want to, you know, guide them into sports and, you know, maybe not be so aggressive as I was and how my dad

kind of trained me because I think just training so early and so aggressively, you kind of get burnt out.

I mean, just naturally, right?

And I think that's happening in today's league.

I mean, you can see guys getting drafted and you don't really see like the emotion behind it.

And it's because like, It's instilled in them like I should be here.

Like, I'm, I've been training since I was three years old.

like this moment here like was already destined like you know what I mean rather than like you see a guy just like overly like crying and like you know what I mean it's an and I and I saw somebody talk about how like the kids seem ungrateful and everything but it I don't think it's them being ungrateful I think it's just they're just that good and confident in themselves because they've been putting in the work you know what i mean because there's two different sides right you could have the guy that you know came from nothing and everything, but I don't think you should take away from a guy that did have everything and all the resources to get to that level, right?

And I think that's kind of what this draft class people were like speculating.

Like, there's a lot of kids that had dads that played in the league and they don't have any hunger and everything.

But it's like,

I would actually say, like,

they could be just as hungry because they they don't have to play the game.

So, you know, when they decide to wake up at 6 a.m.

every day, put the work in, why?

You already, your dad could, you know, have you go do something else.

He probably even said, you don't even need to play ball.

It's like Bronnie, right?

For example,

I think him getting the criticism that he gets, it's like,

I think it's impressive how he shows up for work and how he shows up for the grind when your dad is like the greatest player of all time.

You know, that says a lot about him, right?

And trying to make a name for himself and still show up.

Like, I think kids

that kind of have that, you know, the money, everything, they wouldn't wake up and do the work, right?

So, I definitely agree, man.

Shout out to Bronny.

Yeah, shout out to Bronny.

Um,

and shout out to the kids, man.

You guys make the league what it is today, so keep working.

It's a next era.

Speaking of Bronny, $2,500 tickets tomorrow to his game, dude.

That's insane.

First summer league.

Like, could you, like, bro, watching old summer league clips, they got these raggedy-ass practice jerseys.

Like, you're paying $2,500 for practice jerseys.

But I think that's what the game has turned into, man.

It's like, that is, I mean, I'm not going to lie.

Bronnie and Cooper Flag, Cooper's debut game.

These guys, and that's from, you know why it's that much?

Because these guys have...

built a personal brand that people are actually interested in.

They want to see the phase Bronny hoop against Cooper Flag.

Like, you you know what I mean?

So I think that comes with just the social media presence that they've built over their time in high school and college.

And now you're seeing what it can turn into, like, you know, business

for the game.

Yeah, because when you were playing, you said you couldn't use social media at the same time.

Dude, I couldn't, bro.

They really tried to make me delete all my videos, couldn't make monetization.

Like, I could keep the videos.

I just had to turn off the monetization, which is really crazy if you think about it.

It's like they're controlling you in a sense that, like, I didn't sign any contract.

Maybe it's in the contract when you sign the letter of intent for your scholarship.

But yeah, man, I just, I always say this too.

I was like, I was born too early, man.

I would be that NIL 10 years too early.

You would have made millions.

Bro, like, and it doesn't even, I don't get the numbers sometimes because I'm like, I go to these kids' like social medias and things, and it's not like they got millions of followers, but I see their NIL is like four men, like two to four a year.

I think it's a donor network, too.

Yeah, and I'm like, okay, what are they, like, what are their deliverables?

Like, you know, I know how like brand deals and everything work.

Like, what is it?

Is it, is the games really, like, that crazy?

Like, I think they could possibly be investing in their future as well.

But what's the, like, there's a cat, there's got to be a catch.

Like, yeah.

Like, it doesn't seem like a ROI is there sometimes.

Yeah, but I just think these guys, these, you know, boosters got so much bread, they don't even fucking care.

They want their college to win.

They'll invest millions.

And that's where it gets a little crazy.

I mean, I saw something, I don't know if it was true or not, where,

what's his name?

Phil Knight,

Nike guy, was like, yeah, he'll just do whatever it takes for Oregon.

I would have been.

And like, you compete with the CEO of Nike.

Like,

how do you manage that, bro?

Like, it's like, all right, fuck it.

Pay him 10 M's.

He's coming here.

And it's like, you look at the salary cap there, and it's like, their salary is like hundreds millions for organ no i'm just saying like what if if that's the case if they're allowed to do that yeah yeah who's stopping you know a guy that's you know on his way out

doesn't just wants it's pay to play i mean nba is a little similar right with the big market teams

well there's a salary cap that's the thing i don't think you it's not like baseball where you can you know sign guys for 10 billion or a billion and pay them out you know 500k but 10

10 10 million a year for 25 years like you can't do contracts like that in the NBA.

But that's another thing, too.

Like, NBA money is crazy right now.

$250 for Chet.

For Chet?

Yo.

You just did a video with him a few months ago.

I did.

I did.

Now the guy's worth a quarter of a billion.

A quarter of a billion.

See, like, you know, things like that, when I read articles, I'm just, when I'm holding my, I have a two-month-old son, and I'm just, like, feeding him, just like,

bro, the moment you turn three, man, you're lacing them up.

Like, like, you better be ready, boy.

And my daughter too you know we're gonna be in the lab um

the nba money will be good by then about i know it will be i i think like the w nba all jokes aside it is growing and it's growing because of social media like it's and like the personal brands like it always comes back to that like these girls that have followings and they go to the league like it's inevitably gonna grow the like the WNBA and it's like speaking of that I don't know how Caitlin like Nike's fumbling Caitlin Clark's like, just bag, right?

And I don't know who's managing her, but like, how does she not have a shoe?

Like, how, like, I know it takes some time.

Like, I know the back end of like creating a signature shoe, but y'all are fumbling.

Like, it, like, I feel like, and with injuries, too.

So, if she's getting hurt, she's falling off more.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, her, if she would have dropped a shoe, like, year one

or just right at the end, going into year two, dude, like, we'd all be, come on, nine figures.

Like, what?

But the more years you wait, like, the less you're going to make.

Like, and

Paige is hooping.

You know, I saw Angel Reese's dropped a shoe.

So good for her.

And on the cover of 2K as well.

Wow.

Shout out to her.

You know,

having a daughter myself, man, it does kind of like hurt to see how they get criticized online.

But that's just the nature of NBA Twitter for you.

And like, it was funny when they first started like getting all this attention and they were clapping back at all these trolls.

I'm like, y'all don't haven't seen the worst.

Y'all think this is bad.

You don't want the growth in the WNBA because this isn't nothing what the NBA guys get.

So,

but I think I hope they got some good media training over in the WNBA because

it's gonna get worse.

It's coming.

Where do you stand on the lowering the rims debate with the WNBA?

Ooh, see,

here's my take: the ball is already smaller.

So if you lower the rim, how is that affecting the,

I guess, the respect of the game for women, right?

And I just think it'll make it a little more entertaining.

And I mean, 0.5 inches, like, is it really that crazy

of a dis like, because I feel like, you know, they feel, they may feel disrespect.

I don't want to put feelings onto them or whatever.

But from my opinion,

hey, if y'all don't want to lower the rims, fine.

All right.

Well, just don't complain when, you know, the ratings are what they are.

And I'm just, I think it's just a decent idea to increase ratings, which is ultimately like the goal for the WNBA business.

It's not about the accolades, how many championships.

Like,

and let's be honest, women in the sport that have multiple championships, are they getting the love that they should be?

No.

And why is that?

Because it's already

in some fashion disrespected, unfortunately.

It is what it is.

So if you're, you know, fighting for that, it ain't going to be with

10-foot goals, you know?

So

I would love to see it just to get a little more dunks.

But girls are starting to, like, I've been seeing some highlights online of girls in high school and college dunking like

yamming off one.

And so it's coming into the WNBA eventually.

And I think just as a natural evolution of humans, like girls are going to be able to dunk more and more just genetically.

So,

you know, hey, hopefully my daughter got some bounce.

I got bounce.

She'll have the height, that's for sure.

Yeah.

But yeah,

I don't think there's an issue with that at all.

I'm curious what I would love to see an actual survey in the WNBA anonymously and see what they think and what the percentage would be if they would be open to to it.

You got to convince them to do that.

I'm not the guy to do that.

I think they should try for the summer league games and one season.

That's the thing.

Incorporate it in maybe like another league.

Like I saw they had that three-on-three league.

Yeah.

Maybe try there.

I mean, they already got some wacky rules anyway, so why not lower the room?

But yeah, test it in the summer league.

I mean, that's what they do for the G-League.

They try new rules, and then if it seems right, they incorporate it into the NBA.

so um

I don't I don't know there's not really much room for the WNBA to have their own G-League but that's why a summer league is a good idea yeah you think the three-on-three stuff's gonna take off the big threes

oh like for men's yeah I guess it's only is it only men's yeah big three big three um I think

Again, it comes down to like the personal brands.

I saw Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley, their whole thing with the next chapter was really cool.

And to be honest with you, if they weren't playing in the big three, I probably wouldn't have seen as much

clips or been in like intrigued that league.

So I think it's important for the people that are involved in the big three to have a presence online and shit talk on social media just to keep people engaged.

Because I think just naturally, like trying to find a big three game or going to it, there's not enough draw for me to like really tune in unless like, you know, guys that I've followed in the NBA, you know, are still saying, like, yo, I'm, I'm hooping here, like,

come watch me or something.

Same here, because it's been around for like years, but this is the first season where I'm watching game highlights because Dwight Howard's in it too now.

Yeah, exactly.

And like, what is he doing?

He's on social media like all the time.

Like, I just did a video with him, too.

Oh, yeah.

I don't think it's coming out until the season, NBA season.

But yeah, he's dope.

He's cool.

Tall, motherfucker.

Dude, he's huge, bro.

What is he, 7'6 or something?

No, no, no.

I mean, he's like 7-foot, like 6'11.

He's taller than me.

Oh, he's got to be like 7-foot.

Like, we were like pretty high to high.

Oh, no, that was Yao Ming, though.

Yeah, he's 7, I think.

How do you get Yao Ming and Dwight Howard confused?

Well, 7'6 just stuck with me because I don't know.

I just used to, I'm a stats guy.

So I've

got heights.

Is there any seven?

I haven't seen, well, Wimby.

I think Wimby's 7'5.

He's tall.

No, dude, like, that's the one dude.

Like, I did a video with him, and he actually made me feel, like, six foot, like, dead.

Like, I've never in my life.

Like, there's two people that have made me actually feel small, and it's Wimby and Joellen Bede.

Joellen Bede,

when I saw it, like, bro, that is a big motherfucker.

Like.

He's tall and like I didn't know he was like stocky like that, bro.

Like, so I can see why he's fucking as dominant as he is.

Yeah, he's probably like 300 pounds.

But that's also why he gets hurt.

I mean, dude, it's like, bro, your feet, there's no way your feet are handling that.

Like, sorry.

But, I mean, that's what happened to Yao Ming, too.

He just got too heavy.

A lot of big guys, like,

you know, they, I think there was a mindset and there still is today where when you're tall, like, you got to put on all this weight.

But our bodies, like, can't really.

Not everyone can handle all that.

So being light isn't really like that bad as long as you're able to move and you're strong and you're seeing that today in the nba like there's hella skinny dudes like when i was coming up i feel like if you were skinny you were frowned upon and like just brushed away but now bro there's guys that are like six eight one

sixty bro in the nba like you know what i mean and then they're just going to be put on a program but they can still compete and still are like given the time of the day because they could just ball out But in my time, I feel like coaches would just scrutinize you for for like, like, I couldn't even practice unless I made a weight.

Wow.

Yeah, dude.

Like,

yeah, it was crazy.

And I feel like that is also hard on the mental for just speaking on mental health for athletes.

It's like, imagine, like, I had to go into practice, like, yo,

I'm chugging protein shakes, chugging gallons of water just to make, you know, my weight so like coach doesn't get onto me.

And then I got to go hoop.

So I'm playing sluggish because, like, I'm over here just trying to make weight.

And, like, what am I making weight weight for?

I'm here to hoop.

I'm not here to like be a bodybuilder or anything.

It should be based off your results.

That was the science back in the day.

And I just think like now there's just so much science back that's able to prove like you don't actually need necessarily that much weight or like that quickly, I guess.

It's always good to pack on weight and everything.

But I think the way they were doing it was completely wrong.

100%.

Would you rather be taller or shorter?

No, I'd rather be taller.

I think there's a lot more benefits being tall, but also i think there's nothing wrong with being short i think it's just about finding your strengths and whatever you know the cards you were dealt with so you would take seven feet over six feet yeah

i would just because

it's unique right i think there's a lot less seven footers obviously than six foot so it kind of that's cool and you know being this tall you know it does come with a lot of just like

you know negative things but i think there's more positives you just got to look for the positive right and i even being six foot if you're six foot there's more there's probably more positives it's just on how you look at life man it's like i try not to look at things negative at all like i don't even want negative thoughts in my head you know especially now where i only have so much emotional and mental capacity you know i'm a married man family man when i'm in my household i want to be you know level happy um because you know dealing with toddlers, it's easy to get stressed, you know, pregnant wife, like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

So

I'm just grateful, bro.

I love that, man.

It's cool to see that journey in you because I know you had your battles over the years.

Yeah.

No, it's been special for real.

And I think that's what's cool about documenting it, too, because it can inspire maybe that somebody could relate.

You know, even if it's just one person, I think just kind of changing somebody to really shift their mind into, you know, becoming a better version of themselves is great.

And that's what I encourage with my stuff.

And now I'm working more towards on making content that's more catered towards just self

improvement, right?

Not really like, I'm not trying to be like a self-improvement guru because I'm still learning things every day myself, right?

But it's just, you can see it through my progression of content, right?

You saw, if you were with me from 2014 to 2025, you could see my first video.

It was a weird little cringy skit.

And then fast forward today,

it's just me, you know, hooping at the NBA Creator Cup, you know, with all these big creators and kids just like really enjoying the content.

And then even seeing parents.

I love seeing parents now happy, like that they just have like, they feel like they have a safe place to just feel happy in their living rooms watching our content and just feel good.

I love that.

Not a lot of people make it in content for as long as you have.

Was there any points where you almost quit content?

Never quit, but I mean,

definitely took a step back just because I felt like I was going in a route where it wasn't healthy for me or the people around me.

And I recognized that.

You know, I've had my fair share of beefs and cancellations online due to things that were in my personal life.

And, you know,

even though a lot of it wasn't per se true about me, I think it kind of made me realize like,

or it opened my eyes to who I was and perceived online and who I really was.

I just wanted to like take a step back and ask myself, who is it that I want to be?

Because you do lose yourself in this content.

And I've...

I'll admit that, yeah, I've done things that I'm not proud of or treated people unfairly within like the workspace and everything.

Because in my head, I think I'm doing the right thing but it's because I never put myself in others shoes or I wasn't very empathetic before because I was raised on just like grind and you know if people are slowing you down get out of my way kind of thing so just head down work but now I'm more like I like to work in a sense of like I make sure everyone around me is mentally good and I'm mentally straight because I also dealt with things in my personal life that I didn't really know how to process.

And I think at a young age, we don't understand how to process feelings, especially as men.

And, you know, I've been going seeing a therapist, you know, once a week for the last like three, four years.

So I think through that journey has also taught me that there was a lot of feelings that I had never processed.

And now that I've been able to, I'm more at peace with things that, and the people that I did wrong in the past.

And, you know, we've made amends and talked it out.

And, you know, obviously the people online don't know that because it's not shown yeah right

so I just think with that for me as a human it's been great like I think the growth is there and you know if

people

I feel like when I first started content I was trying to prove myself to people and now I'm really just doing things to for myself like proven to myself not the audience and I think when you try to make videos and content to just please any and everybody, it gets bad.

It's impossible.

You can't please everybody.

Yeah, and then you get like, it's toxic too, I think, to an extent.

And so

even though it may seem like the audience, and that's why streaming is very like,

like hard for me, just because, and hard to see all these creators, like, you know, catering to their audience.

And it's like, dude, you're going to get trapped in this like loophole.

You see it all the time.

Like, you know,

we've seen creators do some crazy stuff.

Vitale, I mean, the Lisco.

Logan Paul.

And that's because mentally, they're not thinking as like, as a human.

They're thinking as a content creator.

And like, once you recognize that you're in that kind of like zone of, you're not thinking like a good human right now.

You're thinking like a good, like, I guess, content creator.

Not a good, I don't even want to say a good content creator, but I'm basically trying to say like you need more time to reflect and be in the moment, not thinking about

views and what's going to bang and all this stuff, which is what I was doing, which you should, because it is a job, too.

So I think also I was doing that because I was so hungry on making it.

Right.

Right.

And now that I feel like I've kind of made it in a sense,

it's giving me more time to work on my personal life.

And that's what I've been focusing on.

You know, I've got a two-year-old daughter, two-month-old son.

So I took a step back from content to kind of reflect on like what I want to be as a content creator now.

Because I think every like three to five, four years, I like reinvent myself a little bit, like adapt to like what it is.

Because I mean, I've done that.

I mean, I started with skits, my first hundred thousand.

After that, I kind of went into like vlogging.

And then I found a gaming channel.

I made that.

went into GTA 5.

I don't even know if people know that that follow me.

And then I found 2K and then I was making 2K videos for the longest and then I kind of fused 2K into IRL basketball content and then I was just doing anything and everything at that point.

And

yeah, losing a lot of subs in a very like short time was a crazy like feeling in time because

It was like I could quit now

and honestly I think if I was to go back I wish I just would have just kept going.

But it was so like

personal for me.

Like it was more like, damn, I don't have time to just be me.

Like, cause I feel like I'm in this like hamster wheel where if I don't upload, I'm going to fall off and I'm going to lose everything I've built over the last decade.

But I was like, is it worth my peace?

And so I just decided to like, just take a step back and focus on my peace because that's what, that's really all you have is yourself and your family.

So if i'm losing that or losing sight of that while trying to make a name for myself and my career what's the what's the point of having a career if you don't know yourself or have a healthy relationship with your your wife your kids and your friends around you and so i think that's what i prioritize now and that's what i've learned being a content creator i think i always try to encourage creators to not get trapped in that hamster wheel as much as you think you're not.

I can tell when guys are.

Oh, it's so easy.

I'm guilty of this.

A lot of people tie their identity to their followers, their subs, their views.

Like, I'm definitely guilty of this.

Like, I'm even thinking about

changing my, like, I'm making this new channel for my vlog channel and just making it my actual name, Chris Oboseki.

Really?

So you're ready to go full-on out then.

Yeah.

It's that time in my life.

It's just chapters, man.

You think you'll go the family channel route with the kids?

Yeah, I think so.

I I think not in this, not in the traditional sense of like, you know, the family like skits and challenges and per se.

Because I actually am pretty reserved, but

I don't know.

I don't want to say I'm not because, you know, I could change my mind on the fly.

But, you know, my wife and I, we talk about it all the time.

And just kind of, I think when we're ready, we're slowly kind of.

starting to integrate it.

And I think once our kids are a little more in tune with routines routines and things and we're comfortable yeah i i could see that i have this debate with my fiancé all the time about are we gonna let our kids on social media and there's pros and cons to it there's a lot of pros and cons like it it and that's what i that's what kind of prevents me from going full on with family channel because i don't want to i i really don't like recording videos and in the back of my head i'm like okay dude what oh dude the house isn't really picked up people are gonna say this about the house is my wife gonna be upset if i show like my shorts are on the ground right there and I didn't pick it up?

Like, you know, and oh, my, my daughter's like, you know, she's eating and like, I accidentally had her in the background eating.

And like, you know, there's, it's all, there's so many things, right?

Um, so I think until I have like

a clear vision and like I'm not so in my head about it, I'll be down to do it, but I don't know if that'll ever come.

We'll see, we'll see.

Let's end off with Paul Pierce's recent video.

Paul Pierce.

He said he's the greatest scorer of all time.

What are your thoughts on that?

Terrible take.

I would give it a six out of 10 rage bait.

Nobody takes Paul Pierce seriously.

Haven't taken him seriously since he won an NBA championship and considered himself the best player in the world when LeBron was at his absolute peak.

But I will say, I think he can hoop.

He's definitely like a top scorer.

And I did see the video where he said who he could outscore, and he said everybody.

Not a better scorer than T-Mac.

I don't think he's,

dude, I don't even think,

I don't think he's better than Curry.

And also, it's weird when old players kind of compare themselves to today's era just because the game is so different.

Right.

It's so different.

It's almost like

it.

It's impossible to

basically say you're better than somebody that's playing in a time where kids are literally east banging with ease

in the layup lines and things.

Like, I've seen a clip of a Men Thompson, right?

This was before he got drafted.

And I kid you not, bro.

This kid's athleticism is something that if he was put in the 80s and 90s, I'm not sure if Michael Jordan would be.

talked about the way he is.

No, I'm just saying because like I'm it's almost as if I'm and I'm not even trying to discredit or disrespect Mike, but put the two

highlights side by side.

And this is when he was in high school.

Granted, now he is playing high school players, but his layup package is something I've never seen combined with his dunk package.

Like, you can't even create this in 2K.

Damn.

That's how good and crazy it is.

And I didn't even know he had it like that.

I just seen it recently because I knew he could ball out.

He had a pretty good season

his first year.

Is this second year?

Second year, I i think yeah second year with the rockets and um i think he's gonna be a star if he keeps with like if once he finds his rhythm shooting bro i would the nba better be scared if those guys find a jump shot like a consistent jump shot because it would be uncardable bro he was doing windmills off burt like what yeah two-hand like it's look it up it's like um i don't know if it's a tick-tock bag work edit or something but uh a men thompson's highlight jeez out of this world and now they got kd They did have KD.

I'm still not sold on the Rockets, man.

You don't like that trade?

I do for KD.

I did not like him on the Suns.

He was wasting his time in the Suns.

Anytime you go to the Suns, just consider your career in the toilet until Bradley Beal is out of there,

which I think he's getting bought out, actually.

I think I saw that, yeah.

And like, the thing is, is Bradley Beal's not a bad player.

He just has a very bad contract for his production.

That's it.

If he wasn't getting paid $50 million a year, nobody would be criticizing Bradley Beal the way he's getting criticized.

And that's the thing with the NBA.

These contracts are ridiculous.

Like there's guys getting

30, 40 million that shouldn't be.

But I mean, we've seen that since 2000.

I mean, I mean, look at Chandler Parsons.

You know, they get the bag.

Duncan Robinson, I think, got 60 for three years, something like that.

It's insane, man.

Get your shots up, kids.

I mean, the money's there.

You just got to go get it.

You know what I'm saying?

But I think the Rockets will do.

They've always been a a good, gritty team.

And I think having Katie in that locker room with those young guys, the only guy that kind of throws me off is Van Fleet, man.

I'm just his shot selection worries me.

And I think he's getting older, too.

I think

he's got to figure out how to be a better point guard, in my opinion.

Yeah.

So, but I think they'll go far this next season.

The West is stacked, man.

The West is too stacked.

It's way too stacked.

You know, my Lakers, man,

Aiton, I don't know how to feel about it.

LA's hard to to play

because there's so much pressure when you're alongside Luca and LeBron.

So I think that like this is what happens with Lakers players, new Lakers players.

They have that honeymoon phase where things going to go right.

They're playing well the first couple months.

Classic Rui Hotchamore, right?

Start coming around.

December, then we go to all-star break.

And then after all-star break is the real defining point of who's actually built for LA basketball.

Because

when you make, that's enough time to see, okay, are they partying?

Are they disciplined?

And then can they handle criticism?

Because it's playoff approaching, so people are getting scrutinized like crazy.

Right.

And that's where I'm a little fearful for Aiton.

I don't know if he can handle scrutiny.

I'd be shocked if he could.

And

we need a defensive big, man.

That's, I, I, bro, I was at that elimination game for the Lakers, and it was the saddest thing.

It might have been the saddest LeBron James basketball game I've ever seen in my life.

They need to call Dwight Howard back.

Yeah, and JJ, please don't ever play a 40-year-old for fucking this whole second half ever again, please.

Man, he gave it everything he had.

He is, man, and you got to give credit to Braun.

He's just an old goat.

Yeah.

Who's your goat?

I was going to ask you that.

MJ.

MJ?

Who's your goat?

LeBron.

Really?

Yeah.

I think.

Over MJ?

Yeah, and it's not to say like,

because here's my take on goats.

goats.

It's like subjective, right?

It's like, what, like, you have your reasons why you love Michael Jordan, and I have my reasons why I love LeBron more, right?

And I don't think either answer is wrong, right, or right.

I think it's just, it's up for a discussion because there's no real answer to that.

There's not a, it's not a fact.

It's just.

up for a debate and a conversation.

And then at the end of that conversation, you leave with either the same answer or you change it.

Right.

And I think over time, the GOAT conversation changes because of the evolution of the game.

So we could see in 20 years, like, are we still going to have Michael Jordan as the comparison to that next player?

Right.

Or will it be like LeBron?

Because I think there was a, you know, a time where they were having this conversation with like Michael Jordan and somebody else.

Yeah.

Right.

And then eventually it was just the accolades and the way it was played.

And

yeah, man, I just, I don't know.

I think Braun's had the best career.

There's no doubt about that.

But when I I think a goat, I'm like, your best seasons.

That's kind of what I'm comparing.

Yeah.

And I think MJ's best six seasons just.

I also think it has to do with the personality side of it too, because there's that drive.

Like, I think MJ for sure has the better basketball player drive than LeBron.

But I think also I'm just biased too, because I can't I'm not gonna cap and act like I watched Michael Jordan to every game and shit and just going off of pure facts of what he's done for the game and like what he's done outside of the game.

You know what I mean?

And that's another thing, too.

It's like, do you add that to your argument of the goat of like what he does like off the court, right?

Some people do.

Yeah, some people do.

And

for me, man, I just, I just love that 3-1 comeback season and just what he did in Cleveland.

You know, I think just getting a championship for your city, like, and coming back and doing that in the fashion that he did, for me, like you said, just the single seasons, like, I don't think there's a better season that has ever been done.

No, I'll agree with you.

I'll not.

Yeah.

And I just think, like, as far as championship, like, the lore behind it and just

the team he did it against, like, the greatest team, you know, debatably ever created.

They had the best record of all time.

Best record.

I mean, we could argue like, you know, the Bulls team versus that Warriors team.

But coming back from 3-1 in the finals

in every category, LeBron, like, it's goat shit.

LeBron James.

LeBron James.

Chris, it's been awesome, man.

What are you working on next?

Where can people find you and everything?

You guys can find me at IamChris London, K-R-I-S.

I know a lot of you guys, you know, Chris is with the C-H.

I'm sorry.

It's all about the K's, man.

And I'm working on just still finding that balance of family life and content.

So, I think you're going to see a lot more like raw vlogs.

You can catch me on TikTok.

I love yapping on TikTok live.

And

yeah, man, that's where I'll be.

Check them out.

Good luck tonight, brother.

Thank you, bro.

Got to hit some half-court heaves.

Let's get it.

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