Westin Smith: Investing Secrets That Could Make You $18 Million From $100k | DSH #1626

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Speaker 1 Okay, guys, we got Weston Smith on today.

Speaker 1 I think he's the first guest from Iowa. We'll have to fact-check it, but I think he's either the first or second.
So, thanks for the flight over, man. Yeah, no, thanks for the invite, man.

Speaker 1 So happy to be here. I love your show.
You got some really, really high-caliber people here. I'm just happy to be in the same chair as them.
Yeah, I'll suited up too. I love the brown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I mean, this isn't real, my first real podcast, so it gotta look good let's go baby i'm uh getting married next month and all my uh best men are wearing brown so oh yeah it's a cool color right yeah i thought it was kind of different so yeah i love it dude well uh you've been in iowa for for a while and now or yeah man so i was born in nebraska and then actually kind of cool story Different story.

Speaker 1 My mom and dad never married. So my dad lived in North Carolina and my mom lived in Nebraska.
So every six months, I'd actually fly back and forth. Whoa.
Until about four, I think.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, both their families are from Iowa. So they decided, hey, let's just live in Iowa.
And, yeah, been there since, again, yeah, four or five or so. And I know you were in the military.

Speaker 1 Was your dad par military? No, I was the first one.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, I wasn't the first one, but I was in the Army. My dad was not.
I did have a grandpa that fought in the Korean and Vietnam War in the Navy.

Speaker 1 And then my great-grandpa, he was a tanker in World War II, and he actually saw Mussolini being hung. No way.
He has a picture of it.

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Speaker 1 What? Yeah. How did they take a photo back then? Oh, they had pictures and cameras.
They had like war reporters and stuff back then for sure.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they have a, he saw literally Mussolini being hung. So, I mean, we could probably give that to a museum or something.
Dude, that is nuts. Right? Yeah, you should auction that off.

Speaker 1 No, that'll stay in the family

Speaker 1 for sure. But yeah, I was in the army for eight years.
So your grandfather pushed it, or you kind of made that decision on your own?

Speaker 1 So, yeah, the tanker grandfather, he had passed before I was even born.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just kind of something in me that I always wanted to do. I can't really explain it.

Speaker 1 You know, I was happy where I grew up here, wanted to do my service. And

Speaker 1 I would have kept going, but

Speaker 1 there's so many red, so much red tape and bureaucracy. Yeah, politics.
Yeah, man. I can't stay.
stand it. Eight years.
So that's two terms, right?

Speaker 1 So actually, they keep elongating the term, right? So World War II, it was like two years. Yeah.
And then it was four years, and then it was six years. And now it's when I was in, it was eight years.

Speaker 1 So you did six active and two inactive. Oh, wow.
So that's one term. It's one term.
Holy crap. So there's always a way out of it.
You know, you medically discharge, get hurt, or whatever.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I thankfully was safe through the whole thing. And

Speaker 1 yeah, so six active, you you do your service, do your time, do your thing. And then two inactive, where really they'll only call you if like World War III happens.
Got it.

Speaker 1 And it looks like that might happen. It might, but they can't call me anymore, man.
You saw that. I don't know if you keep up with it, but Heg Seth called like a big meeting a couple days ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's kind of concerning. They've been saying that since like North Korea first got their missile capability.
So

Speaker 1 if it happens, that would be very, very bad. And we got a lot more things to worry about if that happens.

Speaker 1 But I think America would be okay just because, I mean, we are the greatest superpower in the world.

Speaker 1 How hard was it reintegrating with normal society after those eight years?

Speaker 1 So I was in National Guard. So I did, I signed up when I was 17.
And then, you know, I went to school. I did still went to college, got my degree.

Speaker 1 living civilian and then dude did the you know one week in a month two weeks a summer type of thing that's what they tell you but it's usually like a month out of summer and then, yeah, like two to sometimes three weekends a month, depending on what we're doing, what we're training for.

Speaker 1 So, I wasn't active, I was just active,

Speaker 1 meaning that I was still going to do those trainings. Got it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's National Guard, there's Army, Reserve, and then there's Active Duty Army, where you go, you go live on the bases, you know, you do that, wake up 4:30. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 So, it wasn't a big change for you. No, yeah.
It was like, yeah, it was not like very hard.

Speaker 1 and now um i believe you can have companies on the side while you're serving right yeah i mean i mean they'll pay for your school uh they used to be a hundred percent but again government making cuts it's like less and less each year now so i think i was the last year where they fully paid a state covered uh state sponsored school got it wow so private school then they never will pay a hundred percent but they'll usually cover just tuition room and board was on me

Speaker 1 so um

Speaker 1 but yeah that was so they cover your school and then when did you start your company, Fortis? Was that after or was it? Yeah, so Fortis, I started working on it about seven years ago.

Speaker 1 I didn't really have a direction. I was got my life insurance after COVID.
You know, 2019 happened, uh, or 2020 happened, got my first big boy job. I graduated college in 19.

Speaker 1 So I was like, all right, the world is my oyster. And then worked for six months, first guy to get cut.
So yeah, after COVID, you know, like, what do I do? So

Speaker 1 found a guy selling life insurance on TikTok, messaged him, and then, yeah, that started it.

Speaker 1 And then I slowly integrated, you know, venture capital, private equity, colored diamonds, um, gold, silver. So, all these other things.
Interesting. Yeah, the life insurance industry.

Speaker 1 I've had on a lot of guests in that space. Yeah, it seems like it.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 it's really a hack if people don't know about it. So, first off, I personally don't like the term, and I'm going to say why because only 7% actually pay out.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, 93%, all that money just goes right to the company. So, if you don't really have, you know, like a dangerous job, A, it'd be hard to cover you anyway, but you don't really need the term.

Speaker 1 I would always get a whole life as soon as you can because you're locked in at that price with a good company. Other companies know.
Yeah, other companies, they will continue to charge up.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I'm a big proponent of whole life and how the tax code is written

Speaker 1 for life insurance to be like an unknown hack, which nobody reads the tax code. CPAs, you usually don't even know about this either, dude.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, tax attorneys, they're like, no, you can't do that. Oh, yeah.
Here's a tax code. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had an older accountant.
That's my first accountant. He didn't know shit about that stuff.
Yeah, dude. Accountants now, like.

Speaker 1 CPAs, accountants, they can, okay, yeah, they know the normal stuff.

Speaker 1 Go, if you're a business owner, go buy a car that's 6,000 pounds, get that deduction, you know, use the two-week Augusta rule, whatever. But it's changing all the time.

Speaker 1 There's literally writing like or adding to it like every week, it seems like. You got to be proactive these days if you're in that space.
Yeah. And if you're just having a CPA that, you know.

Speaker 1 calls you once a year and like hey you ready to go i got all your paperwork ready and then yeah they're not going to do anything for you so actually another part um that i also work with under fortis another company i sell for, is

Speaker 1 an advisory firm, but they work with you all year long, whether personal or business. So they can help you set up a tax plan.
Again, personal or business. They can get you those deductions.

Speaker 1 You got kids. You got business.
You got, you know, when a write-off part of your house,

Speaker 1 if you need a plan or if you haven't forgot to file for the past couple of years and IRS is coming at you, they'll take care of all of that. So that is a huge, huge,

Speaker 1 man. I actually got fined for forgetting to file too.
So I know it happens. Yeah, I did too.
Yeah. No one teaches you this stuff.
Dude, yeah. I hate, I hate the first time I had to pay taxes.

Speaker 1 I was like, what? Baffled by the amount. Who's FICA? Who's FICA?

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, it's ridiculous. But there's ways around it.
And nobody talks about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I went online, started making like TikTok videos probably four years ago. And yeah, I just started giving out all this information for free.
So

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 my whole goal with Fortis is to make wealth common.

Speaker 1 That's like my motto because it should be in the land of the home of the free, land of the brave, and we're supposed to be the richest country in the world.

Speaker 1 It sure doesn't feel like it when we walk down the streets, you know? So, but it can be if we just have the right knowledge. Yeah.
So. Are you seeing a lot of wealth in Iowa? I've never been there.

Speaker 1 You know what? Yeah. Outside of Connecticut, Iowa is the number one hub for life insurance.
Wow. There's 27 firms headquartered in Des Moines, Iowa, or something like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, and then, of course, the agriculture scene.
There's a lot of wealthy farmers out there as well. Iowa does have one billionaire.

Speaker 1 Who is it?

Speaker 1 Stein is his last name. Stein.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he developed a hybrid seed that's resistant to certain diseases and sold it to Monsanto, I believe, for billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 Did they actually use it or that was just like a, let me buy that off the bottom? No, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. We got to buy this guy.
Yeah, no. I'm pretty sure they still use it because you can drive down the cornfields and and you'll see like Stein, Stein, Stein, Steinseed, Stein Seeds.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I skates in now. Yeah.
There's a, I think there's eight or ten in Vegas. The founder of Panda Express is here.
Oh, nice. One of the Adelsons is here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's some ballers out here. Yeah.
Where you live is important. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Actually, Bedros Coolian said your power is like the proximity. Power comes from proximity.
That's why everybody wants to go to Miami. Everybody wants to go to LA.
Everybody wants to come to Vegas.

Speaker 1 There's a reason for that. Yeah, there's a lot of cool things to do, but there's also people that can help you and that you can help get to wherever you want to be.

Speaker 1 So Fortis is the main focus for you right now? Yeah, for sure. Growing that.
How many people are part of that?

Speaker 1 So it's all me. It's all me, except I do have a website guy and then some support for sure.

Speaker 1 Nobody gets anywhere alone because you've done some significant revenue. Yeah, thank you, man.
Yeah, it's been great.

Speaker 1 But it's, again, proximity is power, partnering up with the right people at the right time, the right place.

Speaker 1 I would say it's all luck, but I don't know if I necessarily believe in luck. I think you could create your own luck.
Absolutely. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 I actually just saw a quantum physics, a quantum physicist study saying that luck can actually be made.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, they said it increases 15% if you expect it. Dude, I need to look into that.
So that's manifestation, kind of, right? Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 I mean, you could say that, yeah, but it's quantum physics, quantum science, you know? Wow. And people use that word quantum a lot.
Yeah, especially these days. Yeah.

Speaker 1 and like Ant-Man, quantum mania, like I think it's kind of a buzzword, and a lot of people don't know what it means. All quantum means is just small, like microscopic atomic level.

Speaker 1 That's what quantum physics is. That is, it's just a study of just those super small molecules and how they react.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be where I am without manifestation, without expecting it, because you don't just fall into, you know, one of the world's top podcasts like this, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I found found you too. Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't the other way around. That's right.
Yeah. So, yeah, thank you for saying that.
Again,

Speaker 1 right time, right place, right energy, right people. So everything will happen if you expect it to be.
It won't might not always be on your timeline, but it'll happen if you keep going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I'm big on energy, big on attraction.

Speaker 1 Growing up, were you big on that sort of stuff, like the astral stuff? No, man. So I grew up, again, small town Iowa, Catholic school.

Speaker 1 Every Friday we had Mass before class. Then I I go back to Mass again every Sunday with my family.
No, yeah, this stuff was witchcraft.

Speaker 1 You know, anything that's not in that book, not in the Bible, automatically witchcraft, which I don't like. So I'm not an atheist.
I'm not agnostic. I definitely believe in God,

Speaker 1 but I believe religion is so

Speaker 1 muddled up, muddied. So

Speaker 1 re legare is where the word religion comes from. It's a a Latin word.
So legare actually means to tie together, to bring together. Re means, again.

Speaker 1 So to bring people together, I mean, you could say any cause is a religion then, if you go by that definition.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the way the, especially the Catholic Church works now, all these, I think you've had maybe a couple of priests or maybe it was Sean Ryan show as well. I've had some pastors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they come on here and then, you know, all the corruption.

Speaker 1 And then I think you had, you had said to somebody that you try to get pastors on here to like debate things from the Bible and they won't do it. They won't do it.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 Because religions become a business. Exactly.
And if they were to come and debate, they would lose business. Yeah.
And that's just not the way. Again, we've bastardized it and it's terrible.
And if

Speaker 1 they really believed in God,

Speaker 1 I mean, what are they doing? Yeah. If they really believed in God, they would do their business without making money.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They shouldn't be like Mother Teresa, just go around helping poor people, but they're all these private jets.

Speaker 1 And again, the tax code does help them because every religious entity, all the money they bring in is completely now tax-free. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is insane because a lot of these celebrities are investing or part of some church to have their money be tax-free as well. Wow.
I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 1 I learned this actually. The Hells Angels motorcycle gang.
Yeah. They're classified as a religious entity.
I actually just found that out recently. Yeah, that's nuts.
That's yeah.

Speaker 1 The biker gang is a religious entity. So if they rob a place, they don't have to pay taxes on the games.
Yeah, that's insane. So, yeah, the tax code is, you know, it's

Speaker 1 like a $5 foot long. Yeah, super thick.

Speaker 1 But yeah, if you know at least part of it, you'll be so thankful you know that little bit. Yeah, there's so many loopholes.
Did you hear about the cemetery one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you like bury somebody on your property, it's now a cemetery, you don't have to pay property taxes or something like that. That would save you a lot of money.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'd want their energy lingering around. Yeah, that's another thing, you know, too.

Speaker 1 There's a limit that, you know, you can have the $200 in property tax or whatever. Yeah, there's a limit.
Like, people change their whole lives to live in Puerto Rico. What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 it's easy, like, just to physically pick up and move. But if you study trust law, I mean, the United States itself is a trust as well.
And every state is also a trust within the United States.

Speaker 1 If you study trust law at all, yeah, you should look up how America, Great Britain, and the Vatican are all still tied together. Really?

Speaker 1 Wow. In what way?

Speaker 1 I'm not, I'm honestly not like 100% an expert in, but I've heard a lot of podcasts and read a lot of research that America is still indebted to UK. Wow.
Yeah, from the Revolutionary War. Holy crap.

Speaker 1 That was so long ago. Yeah.
So 1776, man, is when we gained our independence. Ever since then,

Speaker 1 I mean, it kind of even goes back to the 13 colonies, us sending, you know, tithes and offerings to King George. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It still goes on today when they don't want you to think that. That is nuts.
I've never heard that. But I mean, when you look at our debt numbers, it's concerning, right?

Speaker 1 And part of that is, you know, who are we in debt to? A lot of people ask that question. And a lot of this, you know, yeah, China, Russia.
We buy a lot of things from them.

Speaker 1 A lot of it's UK, though, too. Interesting.
What do you think of the whole tariff debate? Where do you stand on that?

Speaker 1 I'm not a political expertise at all. I don't really, I can see the math.
Yeah, you put certain prices on other companies that puts pressure on them to come here, gives more American jobs for sure.

Speaker 1 I understand that, but it does affect all the mom and pop nine-to-fivers that are barely scraping by anyway.

Speaker 1 So I think the new stat is like less than 70% of Americans have $1,000 in their bank account. Holy shit.
Or can cover an emergency of $1,000?

Speaker 1 70%? Yeah, something like 70, 72. Yeah, something like that, which is absolutely absurd.
Again, in supposedly the richest country in the world. Yeah, that's actually insane.

Speaker 1 That's borderline communism, right?

Speaker 1 If you look at it just based off stats. Yeah, yeah, which is, again, why Fordis is I want to make wealth common because it can be.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't care how little you have, what your credit score is. It can happen.

Speaker 1 Again, if you don't have a lot of cash, if you have terrible credit, it's going to take a little more time.

Speaker 1 But yeah, people sitting on money from like the equity in their house, they don't know how to use, but you can use that to invest with. Or if you want to use the 401k, you can move that anywhere else.

Speaker 1 Some jobs don't allow it, but if they offer what's called an in-service rollover, you can move that to an annuity, you know, in a private placement product. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's that's interesting. I paid off 30% of my house.
I wonder if I should look into that using the equity. Oh, bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's again, money just sitting there that the bank is using, but you're not.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, whatever that is,

Speaker 1 usually they'll give you a loan up to like 80%. Yeah.
50 to 80, depending on your credit score and all that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you can, that's cash you can use to, I don't know, expand the studio, bring on bigger, bigger guests, whatever. Yeah, absolutely.
I need to look into that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's six figures, you know? Yeah. Put that to work.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Again, yes.

Speaker 1 Anybody that has money just sitting, that's like my prime target. I can go get them massive amounts of passive cash flow for the rest of their life.
So you believe in passive income? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I know that's a hot take, right? Yeah.
I mean, everybody thinks passive income is just, oh, made a, made some money today. I'm going to go sit on the beach and eat some bonbons or whatever.

Speaker 1 Which some people do, but that's going to get boring. So, I mean, I could do that if I wanted to, but I want to come on these shows.

Speaker 1 I want to give the knowledge because there's still more people that need help. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, passive income is, I mean, that's where we all want to be. You know, guys like Ed Milet, you know, Bedros Coolian, Robert Herjavec, they don't have to work anymore.

Speaker 1 They work because they want to. We still need to feel productive, wanted, needed.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Active income is what gives you, I think, purpose, right?

Speaker 1 I would say, yeah, passive is more taking care of what, of the physical needs and active takes care of like the mental needs of needing to do something needing to feel important in some way agreed yeah yeah active income makes me feel like i have meaning in life exactly i'm actively working towards something yeah passive income's like it's it's great but

Speaker 1 let's go do something yeah yeah like i couldn't just live off passive no it'd be really boring it'd be terrible yeah even if you you know travel around the world you can only go to bali so many times you can only go to thailand so many times so you know you still need something to do that's why all these like lottery winners winners and athletes go broke because they expect the money, but it's now it's not there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, and you know, I've been blessed to be able to help some NBA athletes, Pro Bowlers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shout out to Chris White, Miami.
I mean, he's a master networker. Again, power is in the proximity.

Speaker 1 These, yeah, these guys need good people around them. I just saw a clip of Kyrie Irving talking about how much he's paid in taxes.

Speaker 1 But if he knew the right people, he probably could have saved tens of millions. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 we we can get people to pay zero even athletes anybody because their income is um personal right i think it's still considered personal while they're playing yeah but i don't think sponsorships is tax the same got it yeah i'm pretty sure that's the way it works sponsorships there's some write-offs and workarounds yeah yeah um but yeah anybody i don't care if you're making a billion dollars a year you can pay zero in taxes there's certain again if you study trust law there is a trust in the united states where you can defer taxes indefinitely.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You will never pay taxes again.
Look at Trump, look at Bezos. They pay nothing.
I don't think, I don't know the last time they paid a single dollar in tax.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do things a little more difficult. You know, they set up like the, I think Amazon especially, they set up like a Shell Corp that owns a company that owns a company that owns a company.

Speaker 1 And you can do that. There's a million ways to do something, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, for the simplest way, just open up one of these trusts and you will pay $0 in tax for the rest of your life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trust was a great move for me because it's also the privacy thing too yeah that yeah exactly right so all my businesses are registered in wyoming for privacy uh low tax and very low filing fees yeah the car too right the car you got a car in in uh what is it wyoming or is it i forget what state people register cars in uh south dakota and montana montana yeah they do low tax right yeah it's either low or like ten dollars something like that yeah yeah very low there um and some people make an llc just to buy a car and that's their only asset and in that state for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then are you taking loans out against all your assets? You can.
Yeah. Again, another way you live off for sure.

Speaker 1 I don't really do the stocks and bonds things, so I don't take them out that way. I do the life insurance way.
Yes. I'm a life insurance broker.

Speaker 1 So by trade anyway, again, it's expanded into all these other realms. But yeah, you can absolutely do it if it's set up the correct way.
You know, infinite banking, it's such a hot term right now.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people don't know what that means. And it's a little misconstrued.
So you don't become your own bank, A, if you don't have any money.

Speaker 1 So if you're trying to get one of these policies, they are a little bit pricey to set up and you do have to be healthy because it is life insurance first.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 if you find an agent that sets it up the right way, they should make not a lot of money. If they set it up the wrong way and have you pay a lot in fees, they make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 So, and I know you've had some guests say that too. So

Speaker 1 again, go through your policy. If the death benefit is more than what you really need, the higher the death benefit, the higher the commission for the agent.

Speaker 1 That's a simple rule of thumb. Anybody can remember.
Again, for whole life. For term, it's totally different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is good to know when you're establishing these policies because people don't ask these questions of like, yo, how much are you making off this? Right. Yeah, they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 And or they should.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't because maybe they don't know them that well or they don't want, you know, they don't want to ask about money because it's taboo.

Speaker 1 yeah um but yeah i mean some agents you can make thirty thousand dollars off one policy holy shit is that a year from one policy oh so yeah you do get some residual income but that's paid every month when they pay their policy that's nuts it's not going to equal thirty thousand but again depends on the company depends on how much your your pay is because in life insurance industry you can get paid up to like two hundred percent of what someone pays in a year holy crap yeah so you're paid as an advance in the life insurance world so based on your annual premium, let's say annual premium is 300K.

Speaker 1 That's what your customers pay in a year, all your customers together. They pay 300K.

Speaker 1 You can make 600K that year if you're at the 200%.

Speaker 1 Now, not a lot of people are. Most people are start at the 20% to 30%.

Speaker 1 And some people, there's a difference between captive agents and non-captive agents. So I'm non-captive.
I can go to any life insurance company in the world and say, hey, I want to sell this product.

Speaker 1 Pay me this much, essentially. But like state farm they're terrible to work with they they pay a small salary and then i think like 15 to 20 percent ap so

Speaker 1 again yeah anybody looking to do life insurance go to fortis f-o-r-t-is by west.com You can message me, email me, and I will walk you through step-by-step good companies, bad companies, how to get your license.

Speaker 1 Another thing is you can't have any felonies because it is in the financial world. You got to be 18.
But yeah, they're just like anything. It's good and and bad companies.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Jake from State Farm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to go, buddy. You got to go.
Good ads. Good marketing.
They are good at marketing, but I've helped clients roll over things from

Speaker 1 like a State Farm annuity, and they are the worst people to work with. Oh, really? It should, because it's your money, you know, like the JG Wentworth commercials.
It's your money.

Speaker 1 Use it when you need it. But you should be able to go get whatever money you have with them and take it relatively easily.

Speaker 1 It took six months for them to give them their money back. They requested it.
Holy shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And if you go look up, you know, State Farmer has a ton of lawsuits on them right now because of things like that. Dude, that sounds like PayPal.
What's going on? Do you ever deal with PayPal?

Speaker 1 Getting your accounts frozen? No, I don't have any PayPal. Oh, you don't? If you're lucky, man.
A lot of people I know that use PayPal, they'll lock your funds for six months and then give it back.

Speaker 1 But who knows what they're doing in those six months? They're probably investing it. Really? Yeah.
That's crazy. Did that ever happen to you? Yeah.
Yeah. Really? Sometimes years.
Really? Yeah, PayPal.

Speaker 1 They call it a reserve because your account's too risky or something. Oh, of course.
You know, but even banks, like you walk in and try to take out 100K, good luck. Yeah.
And cash? Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Good luck with that. I tried to do that and they say, oh, we don't have that.
I'm like, this is from Chase. You're supposed to be one of the biggest banks in the world.

Speaker 1 They'll probably call the police on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they said they have to order it and then it'll be like two weeks. I'm like, it's right there.
Two weeks for 100K. Yeah.
Well, again, this is Iowa, so they probably don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this isn't like

Speaker 1 Dallas or Vegas where, you know, people blow money like that. But yeah, they said two weeks.
I'm like, it's, it's right. It's right here on my account.
You don't have this in this location right now.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. They say no.
And

Speaker 1 even 10K is a toothpull from them. Yeah.
Like, oh, can we give you some of these bills and some of these bills? And so it can equal 10K.

Speaker 1 I'm like, just give me the hundreds, wrap the thing around it so I know how much and just give it to me. It's my money.

Speaker 1 So. Yeah, the banking industry, financial industry, there's some definitely shisty things going on.
100%.

Speaker 1 What was the hardest financial status for you? Was it the first 100K? Was it the first million, like first 10K? First 100K is always the hardest.

Speaker 1 It is exactly like they said. The first 100K will be a battle.
And then everything after that, it's like the avalanche snowball effect, you know?

Speaker 1 It's much easier to compound, grow faster and faster and faster. Yeah.
I agree. I think the first 100 took me a couple years.
Yeah. Yeah.
To hit as an entrepreneur.

Speaker 1 Because the average entrepreneur only makes, what, 40K a year? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, and then on top of that, they got to play pay self-employment tax which again is ridiculous yeah being penalized to work for ourselves but whatever there's ways around that too um but yeah 40k a year and then uh that's below the national average salary at like 65k so you're working double the hours too double the hours twice the risk yeah but again it can pay off if you expect it and just keep believing in yourself you will get to wherever you need to go you need a lot of resiliency to make it as an entrepreneur yes Yes.

Speaker 1 You got to have the capability to play the long game too. Yeah.
Which a lot of people aren't there. Like you said, they can't even afford a thousand-dollar expense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Alex Ramose said that the top 1% make $600K a year. So if you want to make a million dollars a year, A, that's about one in a 300% chance across the world, let alone just America.

Speaker 1 But one in a 300% chance. So if you think you're going to get to something that rarely ever happens acting like everybody else, it's not going to happen.
I love that. Yeah.
Again, that's Alex.

Speaker 1 That's not me. No, I mean, numbers don't lie, right? Yeah.
You got to look at these numbers and be real with yourself. And you have to look at what the crowd's doing and do the opposite.
100%.

Speaker 1 That's probably the biggest piece of advice I've ever received. That's why on YouTube, I only listen to people for the most part that do better than me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, because nobody's ever going to criticize you that's doing better. They'll coach you, but nobody's ever going to come after you.
Yeah, Hormozi's been great, though.

Speaker 1 I watch his stuff, Layla's stuff. There's a couple upcoming guys.
You got to to watch guys that are doing five to time ten times better than you. Yes.
Yes, 100%. Yeah, his launch was nuts, dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 105 million in a day. Dude.

Speaker 1 Shout out to him, man. Yeah.
Shout out to Alex for sure. Putting Vegas on the map.
Yeah. You ever go to one of his workshops? No, not Alex's.
I have not been here. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 This is your first time in Vegas. Yeah.
Yeah, he has one every week out here. Every week.
Oh, really? I didn't know they were so common. Yeah.
Really? Vegas. Nuts, dude.
Good business model.

Speaker 1 So you said no stocks earlier. What about crypto?

Speaker 1 You own any crypto um i do have some just because you know i got a little money so i'm like ah what the heck you know i don't really understand the technology i understand it's super anonymous which a lot of people don't like and government doesn't like so they're making their own fed coin or something coming out but again yeah i don't i don't like it you don't like it no i i don't like it i don't I think the technology can be used for a lot of other things, like

Speaker 1 buying a car or a house.

Speaker 1 Oh, this person had it from here to here and, you know, they did this this to it, or whatever, you know, Carfax kind of does that or whatever, but or like even firearms that'd be really good for help keep crack down on firearms a little bit.

Speaker 1 And I'm a huge gun guy. Again, I was in the army for eight years.
I love guns, but I do think there needs to be a little bit tighter control or back, at least checking who can get it.

Speaker 1 So interesting. Yeah, I

Speaker 1 personally think so. I mean, I have a lot of other fun things outside of just guns, too.
Yeah. Like, I got a flamethrower.
Oh, yeah. That's that the one from Elon? No.
So the boring company, no.

Speaker 1 So this, that's more of a blowtorch. It doesn't really shoot out flames.
Okay. This one like propels it out with an electric motor.
Jeez. How many meters is it?

Speaker 1 I think without wind, it'll go up to like 15 meters. Holy crap.
That's this whole table. Yeah, it goes out pretty far.
And it's, it puts out heat, man. I have some great videos.

Speaker 1 Every 4th of July, our family has this big party at the lake house. So I bring that and like shoot it over the lake at night.

Speaker 1 I'll use it to melt ice during summer or winter, you know, since I'm in Iowa. Absolutely.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Clear a driveway with that thing. Yeah, exactly right.
Yeah. So it's it's advertised to be like for pests, like to shoot like hornets nests and stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I mean, anybody can take that and go do something really nasty with it, too. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 wow, you can legally own that. Just did they check your ID or what? I just ordered it online.
Walked to my door. Yeah.
You ordered it online? Yeah. Dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can in California, but everywhere else. Yeah.
What can you do in California? I mean, yeah, breathe.

Speaker 1 They actually don't let you own a gun in California, ironically. Yeah, and if you want to, it's like a ton of classes, ton of background checks, and you don't even can't even hold that much bullets.

Speaker 1 So that's why I wonder what the actual solution is. You make it harder, or should you make it easier? You know, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I saw a study that in Texas, Wyoming, Montana, they have the least amount of murders because they have the most open carry people. Okay.

Speaker 1 So open carry kind of intimidates people, maybe. Yeah, it could, yeah.
I mean, you see a guy packing, you know, 357 dirty hairy on the hip, you'll think twice before you try to mug him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So maybe open carry, but more vetting on who can do it. Yeah.
And Iowa just got rid of concealed carry license. So you can open carry or concealed carry anywhere.
Oh, well.

Speaker 1 Except like bars, government buildings, hospitals, things like that. Yeah.
And then if a business has like the no-gun sign, and if you bring it in, they can ask you to leave.

Speaker 1 And if you don't, then you'll just get a trespassing charge. I like that.
Yeah, because when people say to ban guns, I mean, I don't think that's

Speaker 1 an extreme. Look at the war on drugs, and when they banned drugs, it made it worse.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think any extreme is never a good thing, whether it be political, religious, like it's, because there's always a spectrum to everything.

Speaker 1 Did the Charlie Kirk self mess you up?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say it messed me up. I think it's really sad, you know.
He was a super young guy, like 30, 32 or something like that. 31, yeah.
31, yeah, leaving behind kids, wife, and he got shot.

Speaker 1 I don't think they really know the political affiliation of the person, but

Speaker 1 just because someone disagreed with them, I don't think that's okay. Yeah.
That's,

Speaker 1 again, we need to decide and keep track of who can even have one.

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Speaker 1 And I know, you know, you can always steal a gun,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't really know what the answer is, man.
I don't think banning them is the right answer, though. I don't think so either.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, guns are just so ingrained in American history. That's how we got our freedom from, you know, UK.
So

Speaker 1 I don't think it's the right answer. You invest in any gun companies?

Speaker 1 I don't. I should, though.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't really do much in the stocks world.

Speaker 1 I just saw Iron Man last night. They were, did you watch that movie? Iron Man? Yeah.
Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The first one from 2008 and how he used to own the gun company. Stark Industries.
Stark Industries, baby. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And And then he had the realization when the bomb like landed right next to him and he said, never again. Morals over money, right? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of in that stage of my career too. Conscious capitalism.

Speaker 1 Not all money is good money. Yes.
That's something a lot of people don't understand.

Speaker 1 Again, when you don't have a thousand to cover an emergency, you act out of desperation rather than forethought thinking, like, how does this affect someone or me? So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, people invest in these huge businesses in the stock market because they're told to, but those big businesses usually aren't doing great things either. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think what percentage of people lose money on stocks? It's really high. Oh, yeah, especially if you're trying to day trade.
Yeah. Like if you think it's in the 90s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very rare to find a successful day trader. Yeah, because those firms just have all these algorithms and stuff to wreck you, right? If you're not playing the long game, you're screwed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're like JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, you know, they have the best tech, the best computers, the best

Speaker 1 analytics. they're going to beat you 10 times as well.
Plus, by the time they're on the stock market, they're already overvalued. Yep.
You're not getting a good deal.

Speaker 1 The only way I would invest in the stock market is in IPO. If I can get it in before.
Do you do any private equity and VC stuff? Yeah. So I do work.

Speaker 1 I market for a couple other private venture, or I'm sorry, private equity and venture capital firms for sure.

Speaker 1 They do things a little bit differently. So most VCs, you go Google venture capital right now.
They buy a company, gut it, and then sell it for parts, basically. This company does the opposite.

Speaker 1 They buy it, scale it, and then they'll sell it to somebody else for 10 to 20X their money. And they only buy established running companies rather than

Speaker 1 like startups. Nothing tech, nothing hot, you know, straight out of Silicon Valley.
If you're making money, they'll consider buying it.

Speaker 1 They'll buy your podcast if you're making money with it.

Speaker 1 And then through that predictive business that

Speaker 1 again, because they nothing new, nothing startups, they go through the cash flow, they say, hey, we can make this much from this company. Okay, we buy it.

Speaker 1 They can pay predictable income back to investors. So, I mean, I can get people anywhere upwards of like 5% a month or like 60% per year on average.
So

Speaker 1 5% a month? That's not going to, you're not going to find a stock that's like that. Dude, people aim for 5% a year.
Yeah. Again, brainwashing.

Speaker 1 So if you think outside the box, there's ways to make money that you don't know about. Be it nobody does the research.

Speaker 1 They just invest in their company's 401k and listen to the HR person that has no financial experience. Oh, yeah, hey, invest in that.
Let it grow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not bad, but you might make some money, but inflation is going to wear that way faster before you can retire. And again, it is still at risk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you factor in inflation, you're actually losing money a lot of the times. Yeah, the silent tax.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's always gonna be there can't do anything about that uh i mean they can they don't just don't choose not to i think but i think the value of the dollar over a hundred year period has gone down 97 or something like that which is mind-boggling insane right yeah so our grandkids will have to make a hundred million dollars to be a millionaire yeah at this current rate at this current rate yeah that's nuts yeah i mean that's like being a millionaire now is just like

Speaker 1 i mean it's still a great thing it's yeah it's still kind of rare but it's still not like what what people think. No, it's not like when I was a kid, I was like, I want to be a millionaire.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I'll be set for life. I could be a millionaire.
Yeah, right. I'll never have to work again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it's just not the way it is.
No.

Speaker 1 Not like it's everything you see on TikTok, everything you see on Instagram, it's not the way it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, yeah. Raising a family with a million is not enough anymore.
Yeah. I just saw like there's no state where a 40-hour work week will pay enough for a $2,000 rent or something like that.
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's nuts. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we can't make enough houses, so it's only going to get worse, it looks like. Yeah.
And then all the big private equity, they're buying up all the houses. That's what I don't like.

Speaker 1 That's malicious. That's not fair, right? That's malicious.
That's not

Speaker 1 providing the opportunity we're all promised with the American dream. Yeah, they're controlling whole city markets.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They can influence any time a company can influence parts of government.
That's not okay by me. So I don't work with those type of firms.
I don't work for BlackRock. I don't work for Blackstone.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, it's just not a good idea. Yeah, when you get to that level, it must be way harder to make the same gains because

Speaker 1 your assets are so high, right? Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think when people ask me, you know, when is enough going to be enough for you? I think my answer should be way different than BlackRock's because they're going to own half the world or the world.

Speaker 1 You know, we need Elon to get on us, get us on Mars, like ASAP.

Speaker 1 we need a yeah something else we need an escape from this man yeah for me i think i calculated it 20 to 30 million liquid i'll be chilling there yeah because i could live off the passive income for the rest of my life yeah i mean even on 20 30 million you can put that in just a cd yeah like yeah or high yield savings yeah i think i calculated like seven percent interest nothing compared to yours but yeah um man you're you're doing some crazy numbers that's impressive yeah well thanks man has that been pretty consistent or is that a one-time thing so yeah it's consistent it's never gonna go up never go down you sign a contract,

Speaker 1 you know, full disclosures. You keep a copy, they keep a copy.
Wow. Yeah.
And you get paid once a month. Yeah.
So have about. And that's the life insurance stuff?

Speaker 1 No, that's those are for

Speaker 1 venture capital clients. Oh, got it.
Yeah. And then if they, once they get up a little bit more money, again, taxes are going to come.

Speaker 1 Now we can put them in the advisory side and have them pay no taxes. Or they get enough money.
Now they can get a really good life insurance policy.

Speaker 1 Now they can, you know, it's again, the snowball avalanche effect. You start them off.
I like to start them off in that because it doesn't require to be an accredited investor.

Speaker 1 So almost 90% of the people I talk to, they're like 60%.

Speaker 1 Oh, no way.

Speaker 1 It's a scam. That's the big thing.
I mean, right? You know, let's face the facts here. I thought the same thing too when I first heard about it.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 You don't know what you don't know. So to come in.
and tell me something's a scam without any evidence,

Speaker 1 primary resources, anything like that. You just kind of sound like an idiot.
So, my thing is, like, don't knock it till you try it. So, like, start small when you're skeptical and work your way up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, nobody says you got to go balls deep and do a million dollars right away.
Start with 10K or whatever.

Speaker 1 And again, that firm is really good to work with because they can roll over 401ks, they can roll over IRAs. So, whatever you have in those accounts, imagine making 60% every single year compounding.

Speaker 1 So, even like 100K, that's 60K a year. That could cover your rent.
Well, it'll 60K the first year. The next year, you're investing 160K.
So, it's going to be like 230K or something. Holy crap.

Speaker 1 You know, and if you do the math, if you invest 100K after 10 years, you'll have about 18 million dollars. What?

Speaker 1 Dude, off 100K? That, no, that doesn't factor in inflation or taxes.

Speaker 1 But yeah, if you put it into investmentcalculator.com, 100K one time, no additional contributions every single year, just have a compound. You got 15 million.

Speaker 1 You got my brain rolling because there's 0% credit cards. Exactly.
So you could get real fancy with those.

Speaker 1 That's, again, companies that I partner with, they offer business and personal 0% interest cards. That is truly free money.
You could get 100, 200K. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or more if you can show like profit from a business, half a million plus. So absolutely.
I highly,

Speaker 1 highly am an advocate for good debt. Robert Kiyosaki is a genius.
That's how I I kept the pot afloat with those cards. Really? Yeah.
With the first year, it was tough. Yeah, just like, absolutely.

Speaker 1 As any business venture is going to be, you got to find a way. So, congratulations.
I didn't know that. That's awesome.
No, it's a hack, though, because you could do it for each LLC. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You could start a new LLC tomorrow and get 50 to 100K.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that it, and that

Speaker 1 it's better if you can buy a shelf corp, you know, and get that aged business.

Speaker 1 Age helps a lot. Yeah, they'll give you, you know, 300, 500K.
Damn. But yeah, for sure.
Again, and it's all 0% interest credit cards.

Speaker 1 So you don't have to pay anything back except 1% of the balance every month. So 100K, you pay back

Speaker 1 $1,000 a month.

Speaker 1 But you're making $5K a month if you invested that into, like, say, the 60%.

Speaker 1 You got a money machine, money printer. Yeah.
It's like a money glitch. Yeah, really.
Credit, taxes, life insurance, and the right venture capital VC companies. Yes.

Speaker 1 And again, I work with, just onboarded a new company where you can invest in Bali bungalows.

Speaker 1 They're developing bungalows in Bali. Yeah.
Staying at a bungalow in Maldives for my honeymoon. Yeah.
Yeah. It wasn't cheap.
Yeah, I know. Absolutely not.
Yeah, that's a good investment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you probably should have just bought it. Yeah, probably.
If I bought it, it would have been cheaper. It was like $5K a night or something.
Yeah. Yeah, those are not cheap places.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm all about hacking because there's always, always another way. There's always another way.
If you don't see a way, there's a way. Love that, man.

Speaker 1 Anything else you want to close off with here? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Your controversial opinions. We kind of got through that, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, controversial opinions.

Speaker 1 The church is

Speaker 1 a company, and I'll probably never set foot in another church again. Wow.
You're that affected by it. Well, see, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 So, long story short, I was going to a church where I'm, you know, in Iowa, and

Speaker 1 business deal went sour with a guy.

Speaker 1 Nothing that I could control,

Speaker 1 nothing at all.

Speaker 1 But, you know, he did lose some money and the pastors found out about it. And, you know, I got a call from one saying, hey, you're going to come into men's group on Thursday? And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 And he said, maybe you don't come in this week, which is an odd thing to hear from a pastor from a church. who's a non-denominational, so they should be accepting everybody.

Speaker 1 And, you you know, I said, what? What's going on? So then I called him and I said, you know, dude, what's going on here? And he said, oh, you know, I heard about, you know, so-and-so.

Speaker 1 He lost some money with you. And I just didn't want it to be awkward.
And yada, yada, yada. And I said, first off, you don't know anything about the situation because that was over a year ago.

Speaker 1 And I've been talking to him every day since then. Secondly, you're choosing.
to not allow me to come to church for your comfort. So you don't think it's awkward.

Speaker 1 is that right he said yeah you know i just you know i want church to be good you know everyone be happy and i'm like that's church is not a place for happy people you go there supposed to go there if you're broken if you need something right

Speaker 1 and then if you're happy great you can stay

Speaker 1 but after that

Speaker 1 uh that that really affected me growing up in church oh so it was the same church you went to your whole life No, so it's one down not where I'm from. Oh, okay.
I moved down to the capital.

Speaker 1 It's in Des Moines.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that affected me because I grew up in the church, you know, grandma's super religious and all that.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 that affected me very deeply that I heard from a pastor, you can't come to church anymore.

Speaker 1 So, I said,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 So, then I just swore off that church. Probably going to swore off every other church because.

Speaker 1 And again, it's non-denominational, so it's not like the Catholic conspiracies and all all the things you hear about, but it's a small church that said, you can't come because this deal went sour, and I don't want it to be awkward.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be awkward there.

Speaker 1 I said, okay. Wow.
That's nuts. Did he ever hit you up again after that? Nope.
Neither of them. But I still see him at the gym.

Speaker 1 You wanted to ask me if he talks to me. Does he talk to you? He doesn't talk to me.
He's probably ashamed. He's probably, yeah, he looks down, looks away.

Speaker 1 He should be. He took, I think pastors take an oath of some kind.
They definitely go to seminary school to be accepting, to be,

Speaker 1 you know, welcoming in people. And I, and another controversial fact, I know for a fact everything in the Bible is not true.
How?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 again, not an atheist, not an agnostic. I definitely believe in a God, but the Bible says, for instance, you know, I forget the...

Speaker 1 the timeline here, but I think after Noah, Noah's Ark situation, God said, okay, nobody can be, live over 120 years old anymore because Moses, Noah, they were like 400 to 800 years old or something like that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the oldest person in recent history has been 122 years old. Okay, so that's wrong.
And if you go back even farther, Joe Dispenza, his book, Becoming Supernatural, have you ever read it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, great book. Yeah.
So in the foreword, he actually talks about a guy who lived to be 256 years old. What?

Speaker 1 Lee, Li Ching Yuan. I hope I'm pronouncing that right, but Li Ching Yuan.
He's an herbalist and martial artist in the Sheshuan region of China. He was born in 1677, died in 1933.
Holy crap.

Speaker 1 And they found this to be true from the Institute of Noetic Sciences. So they went through about 3,500

Speaker 1 resources.

Speaker 1 Brought in by 80 different articles that was translated in 20 different languages.

Speaker 1 The Bible said we're not supposed to be over 120. How is this guy 120 or 256 years old?

Speaker 1 And every now and then, like, I think in Japan, like, they have a ton of people really close to that 120 age mark. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 where is that? Don't see that covered. Exactly.
And then also,

Speaker 1 the Bible talks about another God called El that is above the Christian God.

Speaker 1 I don't know the exact scripture. I can't pronounce it.
Can't recite it. Sorry.
But if you go look it up, E.L.,

Speaker 1 he's a God that is supposedly above the Christian God.

Speaker 1 So are we supposed to pray to this God, that God? And then

Speaker 1 the more, again, since I've been away, you know, if you can zoom out a little bit, it's really based on fear. And,

Speaker 1 you know, Christian God is supposed to be all about love. So if...

Speaker 1 If you do things wrong, if you don't do things the right way, you will go to hell and burn in fire for the rest of eternity.

Speaker 1 That sounds scary, but I thought you loved me.

Speaker 1 You know? Yeah, I had a lot of fear when I went to church as a kid of like doing the wrong things and sinning. Yeah.
And like being ashamed. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And again, that's kind of how all these

Speaker 1 Catholic, because confession is kind of a Catholic thing that you're supposed to go tell your sins to the priest, but God also says, never confess your sins to another man, or you don't have to.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 if you are truly sorry, I will throw the sins as far as East is from the West and forget about them. So why am I going to this 80-year-old pervert in the freaking confessional?

Speaker 1 He's telling me to go say eight Hell Marys for penance and I'm suddenly forgiven?

Speaker 1 No. Yeah, I don't know about that either.
No, no. When did you start looking into numerology? I know Gary the Numbers Guy is someone you've consumed content of, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, I mean, even throughout all the Bible, numerology is everywhere. You know,

Speaker 1 Jesus died at 33. We have 33 vertebrae.
And a lot of people assimilate our third of three vertebrae to be Jacob's ladder. And our mind is consciousness.
Our mind is the creator, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm not an expert on that, but that's what I've heard.
And it makes sense. You know, a lot of things make sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, GG33, Gary, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 He's all about the Chinese, you know, lunar new year calendar. I found that to be pretty true, too.

Speaker 1 you know uh with my with my girlfriend and i we're the most compatible on the map and everything's been great oh nice uh for about almost three years now so uh that and then yeah just the history of it because the chinese culture is one of the oldest that's still in existence right you know they know something we don't so let's learn from them and he has and you know he kind of made numerology um mainstream that i would say for sure and i think he has like his own community now, his own app.

Speaker 1 You know, you can go learn it, take it. But yeah,

Speaker 1 you know, it's the number of money. You know, I always do, I always pay bills on eight days.
I always shave and cut my hair on eight days to embed that money energy. It's been working out pretty good.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I ran my wedding date by him. Really? I ran my address by him.

Speaker 1 His app's pretty solid, too. You use it? Yeah, I use it.
Yeah. Yeah.
I was thinking about getting onto that as well. Yeah, it shows you who you're compatible with.
It's pretty interesting, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it does.

Speaker 1 Does it also recommend kids' names and stuff, too? It might. I know it recommends brands to wear.

Speaker 1 What's your year, for example? What's your... So I'm a 96 rat.
So you're a rat. So he would tell you to wear companies that were founded in a rat year.
Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I was looking that up, like even states, cities, you know, when he moved down to Florida, that was his same year. So he just blew up when he moved to Florida, you know.

Speaker 1 If it happened once, you could say it's a coincidence, but if it happened with all of his clients, all of his students, whatever, you know, it's not a coincidence. There's something.

Speaker 1 He's got hundreds, maybe thousands of students now. Yeah.
I've met a lot of them, too. Yeah.
And again, I do think the world operates in numbers because that's the universal language. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And again,

Speaker 1 God knew that when he created the world. Again, I do believe in a God, just not the way we're taught.
There's definitely something out there. There's no way this came from a little bang.

Speaker 1 Not the white guy in the sky with the

Speaker 1 it's not that it's not that it's not that so um

Speaker 1 yeah man he gg33's been really instrumental for me my i would say my success uh by implementing those principles and i only found about him you know from mentors so uh get a mentor find a mentor if you don't have one get one 100 they will remove the minds out of your path for sure anything else man also thank you for the diamond oh yeah very cool gift yeah for sure For sure, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no problem. Yeah.
Congrats on the engagement. Yeah.
Long, happy. Hope to see you next.
Yeah. Three years.
Absolutely. Coming up, huh? Yeah.
Yes, yes. Three years is coming up.

Speaker 1 And yeah, so we'll see what happens, man. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no worries. I thought, you know, I love giving gifts.
It's definitely one of my love languages. I like to see people smile.

Speaker 1 Like what you said, oh, this is one of the coolest gifts I've ever gotten.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. I love having that effect on people.
Yeah. Gifts Gifts are great because they're memorable.
You'll always associate that object with a person. Like, someone gave me a wallet.

Speaker 1 So now, like, now every time I pull it out, I'm like, damn. You think of that guy? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, they're great. I love gifts.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Well, where can people find you, man, and learn from you and everything? Yeah. A-L-T.investments.buy.west on Instagram and TikTok or F-O-R-T-I-S by Wes.com, Fortisbywest.com.
Boom.

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