LA Bullied Me for Wanting Kids. Tess Mon Pere Opens Up About Leaving the City | DSH #1672

would be the easiest like TV villain I think because I would be like I'm hungry I'm tired a bug just bit my foot

I'm naked on live TV like I don't

yeah it doesn't sound pleasant they must make a lot of money to get to volunteer for that I'd imagine I wouldn't do it it's impressive I give a lot of props to the people that can

all right guys Tessman Pear here today first podcast for you I'm surprised. Yeah, I'm nervous but excited.
I'm saying everything in my power not to look at the camera right now. Oh, you'll be good.

You're probably so used to looking at cameras, right? Fair enough, yeah. On music scene.
I'm surprised you haven't been on one, living in LA.

Yeah, no. I don't know.
The opportunity has never really presented itself, but I'm glad it has. I'm excited.
Do you watch any pods? I do. I watch a lot.
I used to watch a lot of true crime podcasts.

Oka, you're one of those girls. And then I got really paranoid, so I had to stop.

But yeah, outside of that, I listened to like Call Her Daddy, Wizard Liz. I was going to say, you give me Tanamangao podcast vibes.
I've listened to a couple of hers. Okay.
Yeah.

So I was a little accurate on that person.

Yeah, the true crime stuff gets a lot of views. It does.
When you look at the charts, like they're always in the top.

I used to listen to that at the gym, and it would make me run a lot faster on the track.

That's actually good. It would be so scared.
That's a good hack. I know for guys at the gym, they think of something that pisses them off when they're lifting.
Fair enough.

Like a girlfriend cheating on them or something. Yeah.
For me, it's either that or like sad girl music for some reason is like better than any pre-workout.

I went through sad girl music phase in high school. Ed Sheeran.
Who hurt you? What were you going through? That's another podcast. But yeah, I'm over.
Next episode, I'm interviewing you. I'm not.

No, it was Ed Sheeran and XXX Centacion.

Oh. That always made me sad.
Yeah. His music.
Fair. Yeah, R.I.P.
to him. What's been the latest with you? What are you working on these days?

I was just in the studio the other day recording some new stuff, so I'm hoping to have some new music out soon.

and then beginning of next year i'm super excited because i'm going with a bunch of other artists for music city set sale they're doing this cruise and having a bunch of um artists to go and do like full band shows every night that's cool i'm excited i've never been on a cruise though so i

have no idea what to expect i don't want to go overboard and i i feel like i'm going to get motion sick I'm a cruise kind of sewer, so if you need advice, let me know. Please.

I've been on like five, I guess. Where have you gone? Mexico, and that's it.
Gotcha. I think that's where we're going.
Yeah, I love Mexico, so I'm cool with that.

Because there's some fancy ones that go all the way to Europe and Asia, but that takes like two to three weeks. You should come on our cruise.
How long is it?

That is a great question that I don't know the answer to that.

I get bored by the fourth, fifth day. Fair.
So I don't like doing cruises longer than a week. Yeah.
You're going to need some dramamine if it's your first time.

I was going to say, yeah, because I do get motion sick. I'm either going to need like dramamine or like the little goggles where it has like the water in it

i think that's gonna be my outfit there's dramamine and then there's the patches behind your ear i would bring both oh i could do that i used to take dramamine all the time as a kid and now when i think about it it literally makes me like makes me think i'm gonna like throw up

i used to get so car sick as a kid it was disgusting same every time i got an uber it was terrible yeah that's like to the point where i was gonna throw up

my family literally still makes fun of me because it was every single road trip it's like we had to pull over oh you made them pull over yeah I never had the balls to tell the Uber driver to pull over.

So what did you do? You just throw up in his car? I just suffered silently. They didn't even know I was nauseous, you know? It's kind of embarrassing

if they're some random guy. Yeah, fair.
I don't think I've ever had like an Uber pullover. I think I'm kind of growing out of it as I'm getting older, but when I was a kid, it was bad.
Yeah, same.

Even airplanes as a kid. I used to have to have the bag

in my lap. I've noticed they don't do that anymore.
They don't. Lately, I've been looking for the bag.
There's nobody. No, they're cheaping out.
Yeah.

they're saving costs man spirit airlines just went bankrupt did it really yeah everyone hates on spirit i love spirit i don't mind it i was hating on it for years though i flew spirit like one time and i had a really good experience if you get the first four seats it's not that bad yeah well and i feel like i pay an arm and a leg with a lot of other airlines this is starting to turn into like a spirit airline sponsorship um yeah i know with a lot of other ones i'm like i'm getting like a spirit experience and i'm paying three times the price right now i didn't notice a massive difference between the seats on spare versus like you.

The second I sit in a plane chair and they don't have like the TV, like I'm just getting. Oh, yeah.

There's an app and a Chrome extension that tells you which planes have the TVs and which ones have the best legroom. I need that.

So I have that because I'm six foot six and like the legroom matters a lot. You are really tall.
I was not expecting that. Yeah, no one does.
It's the Asian, I think. Throws people off.

Not a lot of tall Asians. But yeah, flying is something I do a lot lately because of the pod.
Oh,

it sucks. Where all have you been recently? Just went to Austin for South by Southwest.
Have you done anything there for music? That's a big music festival. I want to check out Texas for sure.

Yeah, that's a big music festival.

LA, have to go there once a month. A lot of good guests out there.
Miami, New York City. I go everywhere.
That's cool. Yeah.
There's a lot of interesting people in the world. There really are.

Now that I've moved across the country and like I'm meeting new because I feel like in LA, yeah, it's like a lot of like

people say transplants, like people from like other states moving and it's like a different

like I never met anybody from like Nebraska or like Canada or like Massachusetts in LA but like here you get all those states and like more if that makes sense yeah I could see that because like here is also another like big like transplant area too like people from especially right now everyone's coming here I know

I have it's so rare that I meet someone who's like actually from Nashville I haven't met anyone and I've been here like four times. It's kind of like Vegas.
Oh really? Yeah, I haven't met anyone.

I haven't been to Vegas. Really? I went once when I was like eight, but I don't think that really counts as going to Vegas.
No, you need to be 21 for it to count. Yeah.

Because you can't even go in the casino if you're eight.

I can't.

Yeah, don't sleep on Vegas, though. Vegas is popping.
I should go. I just don't trust me in Vegas.
Because like the second I take a sip of alcohol, I think I'm Oprah Winfrey.

And I start spending money that I have no business spending. And so I think me in Vegas would be a really bad idea.
Oh, that'd be bad. Yeah, because drinks are 25.
I would probably end up married.

Yeah, they have the overnight weddings there. I do.
Yeah, I know some people that aren't there. That is like Loki on my life bucket list, though.
It was just like

Vegas. One of my guests did it.
No way. Jack Doherty.

Wait, why do I know that name? He's a live streamer, short kid, gets in a lot of internet fights.

Yeah. That sounds like a lot of LA.
Yeah.

Yeah. Well, the live streamers are wild.
They got to keep doing crazier and crazier stuff to get views. That's fair.
You know? Their security guard has to beat up people, whatever.

It's crazy what people will do for views. I was going to say, I think that's like one of the biggest differences I've noticed between posting as an influencer versus posting as a musician.

Push the envelope and like

out crazy the last crazy thing they did. Right.

Well, I feel like the music posting stuff is like a lot more tame. Yeah.
Yeah.

You've just built your focus. Yeah.
Well, I was in LA. I was a little more influencer focused.
And yeah. Yeah, that's how you built your following.
I would say, yeah.

As much as I would love to be like, yeah, people just really liked my music.

Don't look at my Spotify streams. What made you want to switch to music?

I've always had a passion for music.

And like, that's always been what I wanted my main focus to be. But like

LA is expensive and you're surrounded by influencers all the time. And so it's like you just kind of like post what you can to

get the views, get the money, whatever.

Which like

was a huge learning experience for me for sure, and I had fun doing it. Like, I'm not gonna act like I didn't, but um,

yeah, no, I think I'm just in a place where I want to be like 110% music now. I just had Taylor Holder on today.
He was saying the same exact thing. Really?

He said he got lost in the sauce in LA just posting crazy content. Yeah, well, and it's like everybody's validating each other's crazy, too, out there.
Yeah.

Like, I've noticed, like, my brain, I've only been in Nashville now for

five, six months. Like, my whole like brain chemistry has been rewired.

Like, being in LA, it's like anytime I would do something that was like against my moral compass people would be like oh my god you're so silly like you're so fun and like all this stuff like really like validating it and now that i'm out of that environment i'm like yeah that like wasn't good

i can see that a lot of uh people that believe in god here and family unit and yeah it's a total different world for sure like night and day difference compared to la la is not family driven yeah i had a lot of friends in la that like made fun of me because i would be like oh yeah like my biggest dream is to be a mom or like I'm also really Christian and they would like make fun of me and call me cookie cutter damn and so it's like

I get it that's not everybody's interest but it is refreshing to be in a place where like I can embrace that if that makes sense yes you got bullied for wanting to have kids wow that is crazy they're like that's so sad for you why would you make that your focus I'm like

my bad there's there's a problem right now a lot of women don't want to have kids and we're actually uh depopulating I've heard about that Yeah, Elon Musk has been pretty vocal about it.

But if we continue this route, like we will lose population growth. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Like, I don't blame women for not wanting kids now. Like, obviously, like, my biggest dream is to be a mom.

That's your biggest dream.

Next to music, of course.

But yeah. Something special about having kids, I feel like.
Yeah, you know, for sure. I'm planning on having some in the next two, two, three years.
Really? Yeah. That's soon.
You think so?

Do you have like a mother in mind? Well, yeah.

Getting married this year. You are? Yeah.
Wait, that's exciting. We're eight years in.
Dang. Where are you going to get married? Jersey.
We met in Jersey. That's where I grew up.
That'll be cool.

Congrats. Thanks.
Yeah. Jersey gets a bad rep.

I have met a lot of people from Jersey out here. Really? I've only heard good things, though.
Oh, what? I haven't heard anything about it. You didn't hear about Jersey Shore growing up?

I heard about it and I felt inspired.

I hear about like Snookie. I mean, granted, what I hear is very

minimal. Yeah.
Okay, because that. But it sounds entertaining.
Yeah. You never know.
I never know. I remember, like, what's her name? Jay Wow.

I never watched it, to be honest. Oh.
I only know Snookie and Paulie D.

That's it. And there's like the situation or something.
Yeah, I don't know who that is. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever actually watched an episode ever, but

they just brought it back. It's still a fan base for it.
That's how crazy that fan base is.

I don't watch reality TV

other than The Traitors. That's a really good show.
Oh, I've heard about that one. Yeah, that's a good one.
I'm trying to think what I watch. You watch Kardashians? Mm-mm.

I did watch the latest season of Love Island, the one that blew up. Was that the one with Nikki Glazer? Or is that a different show? That name sounds so familiar.
The comedian blonde.

I don't think so. It's the one that had like

Leah and Miguel and.

Oh, I've seen the clips.

Yeah, that's like one one of the only reality TV things I've really watched yeah oh and I used to watch Naked and afraid growing up I've seen a few episodes of that one I don't know that I'm supposed to admit that would you ever go on that show absolutely not

I would last

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I would be so grumpy. Like, Pete, I would be the easiest, like, TV villain, I think, because I would be like, I'm hungry.
I'm tired. A bug just bit my foot.

I'm naked on live TV. Like, I don't.

Yeah. It doesn't sound pleasant.
They must make a lot of money to volunteer for that, I'd imagine. Yeah.

I wouldn't do it. It's impressive.
I give a lot of props to the people that can.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I think like a day without my dog, and I would kind of go crazy. You're that close with your dog.
I am. Actually, okay.
Weirdly enough, I split custody of my dog.

Like, so my dog is in California right now. now, and then I get him back.

Well, ex-roommate. She's great.

Ex-roommate. Okay.
So, me and this girl, we got our dog when we were living together. Um,

and then once we stopped living together, um, I was still living in LA. She's still living in LA.

And so, it was like he would be with her for two weeks, he would be with me for two weeks, and then I moved to Nashville. So, we've been doing this for years.

Like, this custody agreement has been going. Um, then I moved out here, and so now it's like every four months.
Wow, So I get him back in a couple weeks. Wow, that's a long time without your dog.

It is. Dang.
I wouldn't want to split custody with anyone.

I've already made agreements with my fiancé if we break up because we got two dogs. Oh, over the dog.
What's your agreement? One each.

So you have a favorite dog then? We both have a favorite dog. Fair enough.
Well, I only have one dog, so how am I supposed to do that? That's true. Yeah.

I guess if you both adopted it, who, yeah, there's no primary caretaker. Because we kind of got him on accident.
Like, really?

This guy who would come over and like give our roommate, because we had another roommate at the time, he would like give her like tattoos and stuff.

And he had gotten the dog. He had rescued him.
And then I said as a joke, I was like, your dog's so cute. Can I have him? And he was like, yeah, you want him? And

he was like, I'll pay his vet bills. I'll like buy his food and like all his stuff.
And so we've had him ever since. That guy did not care about his dog.
He did not.

No one just gives away their dog. He was like, I just feel like he's so bored with me.

And he would have so much more fun living with a bunch of girls like in their 20s and blah blah blah but honestly it works out because like

by the time like she gets him she's like oh my gosh i've missed him and so she's doting on him she's like spoiling him all this stuff and then like by the time i get him i'm like oh my gosh i've missed him

this dog is the most spoiled dog in the whole world how so because like Every single time we're like so excited to have him that we're going on shopping sprees for him, taking him to the park every single day and like taking him to like the doggy restaurants and there's doggy restaurants?

Yeah, there's some good ones in LA. You can go and like your dog gets his own little like chair.
Wow. And they bring you dog food.
That sounds like an LA thing for sure. Absolutely.
Yeah.

You go anywhere in LA. Someone has their dog in Erewhon or wherever you're at.
I love that this podcast has turned into me talking about my dog. I feel like that's how 99% of my conversations go.

I bring up my dog often, probably daily. What are your dogs' names? Milo and Otis.
Aww. Yeah, two boys.
That's cute. Brothers from the Amish.

What? Yeah. The Amish.

If you grow up on the East Coast, like the Amish are pretty big out in Pennsylvania and they are dog breeders. Actually, that's something I noticed about here too.

While I'm sure they're probably more like

abundant where you are,

I like never get starstruck ever. And then when I first moved here, it was like my second day living here.
I was in Walmart and this Amish couple walked past me.

I was about to ask them for an autograph. I was so excited.

What?

I don't know. They're that rare out here? I don't know.
Well, they're rare in California. I grew up in California.
So I'm like,

I don't think we have any Amish communities. And so, like, I grew up watching like that escaping Amish or raising Amish.
I don't know, whatever. Reality.

The what? They treat them like a cult in that show. Escaping the Amish.

I don't know what it is.

I had an Amish fixation when I was younger. Like, I...
was obsessed with them.

So when I saw my first Amish couple in Walmart, I was really excited about it. My friend went Amish for two years

Wait, I have a lot of questions

Shout out to Ty Lopez. Why did Tai Lopez stop being Amish? Like what? He just did it to, I guess, kind of reset his lifestyle.
Like get humbled, if that makes sense.

I feel like that would be really humbling. Yeah, because you're working all day on the farm.
No electronics. That, I think, would give me like a full like factory reset in my brain.

If I didn't have my phone for like a week, I would be a different person. No electricity.

I think there's no hot water too there's some crazy like sub-branches of it gets pretty wild but yeah when you go to adopt the dogs like they take videos yeah we got to go back to that how did you get your dogs

there's a site greenfieldpuppies.com but you got to be careful because one of the ones I went to was a puppy mill what is that it's when they just um whore out the dogs

Like they make all the dogs like have like orgies? Basically, yeah. So I get there.
There's like two dogs in these small cages cages, and there's like 10 cages.

So, they force the men and the woman to sleep together in these super small, confined areas.

And then we got to the litter, and it was five puppies, and they all looked like they had like Down syndrome and stuff because they just keep breeding and breeding. How is that legal? It's not.

Okay, great. So, hopefully, that one got shut down by now, but most of the Amish are good people.
That one was

that one traumatized me, though. That's crazy.
On the way home, we had to stop at a pet store and adopt a hamster because we were so traumatized. And my fiancé was crying.

I was like, here, take this hamster. And then she was allergic to that.

So that didn't last long. What did you do with the hamster? My roommate's dog ate it.
You're so bullish right now.

You're lying. No, I'm not.

No, that's not funny.

No, I'm not lying.

I'm laughing, but it's not funny.

We went on vacation. It's not funny.

This is the weird part because, like, that sucked, obviously. We go on vacation.
I have a roommate at the time.

He replaced the hamster, but we knew it was replaced because it ran the wheel differently. And it looked a little different.
So we called the hamster Tina. That one got eaten by his golden...

What's that big scary dog?

German Shepherd. Where are you putting the hamsters? That the dogs are able to get to them so excessively.

He let it out to run around the apartment for some reason. He tried putting it on a leash and I think it got off the leash.
And then the German Shepherd ate it.

You're going to to end up like on a list with Pet Smart. Like, this guy's not, if he comes in trying to buy a hamster, absolutely not.

But yeah, he replaced it with like a new one, and it didn't feel the same. So we gave that one away.
That's good. I'm glad that one

had a life, yeah. Had opportunity.
Yeah.

But be careful with puppy moles.

Yeah.

Now that I know what that is. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not cool, man. I don't think I am a big fan of those.
Yeah.

My next dog that I adopt will hopefully be from a shelter because I think it means a lot to them. That's it.
You know, because a lot of people don't want those.

They want to get a breeded dog like from a puppy age. But I think the shelter dogs need love to.
Gotcha. Yeah.
I agree. You want more dogs or are you cool with just one?

Right now, I'm good with just my one because I live in an apartment and I think having any more than just him would be a little cuckoo.

But eventually if I were to have like a yard, like I want to get golden retrievers. I want labs.
I want cats. I want all the animals.
You're a cat lady.

I am. I used to not be.
I grew up with cats, so I kind of like took them for granted. I never had dogs growing up.
And so, but now that I'm getting older,

I like the cats. I'm turning into a cat lady.
And my dog loves cats. Yeah.
Yeah.

My dog meows sometimes.

Yeah. He just likes to fit in because my parents have cats.
And so whenever he goes over there, he just like tries to

fit in.

And so he starts like meowing at them. That's unique.

Yeah, I want like at least 10 dogs when I grow up date Yeah, dogs are life you should move out here then. Yeah,

a lot of land out here I like dogs more than most people to be honest. I would say it's a very popular opinion.
Is it? Yeah. Wow, people suck, huh? A lot of people suck.
Very few dogs suck. Yeah.

Yeah, I've only met a few dogs I didn't like. The one that ate the uh the hamster actually bit my dog too, so I didn't kind of like that one.
How'd that work out with you living with that other dog?

That's like eating all of your pets. That's why I moved out because he bit my dog like clean through the ear, so there was a hole.

So he got traumatized. Yeah, I don't blame him.
I think I'd be traumatized too if someone came up with me. Yeah, I don't go to dog parks because there's so many fights.
Yeah. It's crazy.

Every time I go to one, I see a fight. It's so anxiety-inducing.
Yeah, I already got anxiety. Like, why am I going to willingly go to the park and get anxiety? Fair.
You know? Mm-hmm.

How's your anxiety been lately?

Um,

fine.

That's a lie.

I got mine under lock for now, but it pops up here and there. Actually, I had to go to the doctor because I was like having weird panic attacks all the time.

And I was like, I don't know what's going on. I was taking this medication for my skin, and I had no idea that, like.
Was it Accutane? Uh-uh. Okay, I was on the Accutane.
Gotcha.

I've heard that does a lot to your mental. That messed me up for years.
Dang. Yeah.
I kind of want to go on it, but like, I don't think the side effects are.

Thank you. You don't have any acne that I could see unless you hit it really well.

It's more just like when I do get them that like it's... I would say my skin's better now, but like a year ago it was looking a little scary.

But yeah, I was taking this like medication for my skin and it like

I went to the doctor because I was like having panic attacks all the time. And I had no idea what was going on.

And they did blood tests and like apparently my levels were insane and they attributed it to my acne medication. Damn.
So it's better now.

Did you stop taking it?

Yeah, that is. I don't blame you.
And I think me drinking like multiple Celsiuses a day didn't help. That definitely doesn't help.

Yeah, I'm not big on Celsius. Yeah, I think

I'm straying away from that one.

The things we do for acne-free skin, right? Literally. Sacrifice our mental health.
Yeah, I was a zombie on Accutane. It destroys your emotions.
How long were you on it? Seven or months. Oh, dang.

Yeah, you're only supposed to do six, but my acne was so bad, it was seven. And I still have side effects to this day.
What are your side effects this day? I lose feeling in my fingertips.

I've heard that. That it'll like make your whole hands like peel off.
Yeah, so it'll go super numb. And I had a lot of liver damage for a while, too.
Really? Yeah. So I had to fix that over time.

Gotcha. Yeah.

And then I found out a lot of acne is diet.

So it's like what you're eating. Gotcha.
And they don't even teach you that. Yeah, I think mine was like very

environment-induced, I guess, when my skin was really bad. Because it was like when I was living in LA and life was just so stressful and like chaotic.
And like, obviously I was like in LA.

I think most people are constantly partying all the time. And I definitely was doing the same thing.
And so my skin was like screaming at me basically.

But since moving to Nashville, I think it's been a lot better. That's good.
stalling on my chin right now than anybody have you been partying a lot out here too

yeah

maybe okay it's like different though it's more just like

i'm going out with like other music people and we're getting drinks and we're going to writer's rounds and stuff like that it's not like like i'm not in hide like going crazy yeah there's a difference LA parties versus Nashville.

You're actually working out here when you're partying. Yeah, and even then it's not like

people are actually talking to each other and sitting there. Like that's one thing I've noticed big time in the night life.
Because like one of my friends here was asking me about that.

They're like, what are the clubs like in LA? I was like, everybody just like stands at a table and stares at each other. Like, and if you like start dancing, you're looked at as weird.

Or if you're like trying to start conversations with people, people are like, what? And like, they're like a little bit more

snooty about it. But like here, everybody's so excited to talk to anybody.
I can see the southern hospitality, right? For sure. Well, everybody's just so grounded and down to earth.

I don't want to say everybody because whatever. I haven't met anybody bad yet.
But

yeah, almost everybody that I've talked to has just been so like excited about whatever conversation. So

I'm going to go for that. LA just got voted worst nightlife in the country.
No way. Yeah.
I saw some article about it last week. Dang.
Because people just go on their phones.

They're not even like enjoying it. Literally, it's literally people sitting there and they're at the table and they're like taking their selfie video.

put it down and that's it yeah which granted maybe i'm not gonna say i've never taken selfie videos in the club but like

yeah no you were just trying to fit in

i'm just excited to be there i guess sounds like you'd like nashville more than la

yeah

i am grateful for my experience in la for sure like i made a lot of really great memories i have a lot of good friends that i still talk to and everything like i don't want to sit here and like like totally bash on la i just have no desire to go back.

Yeah. Either.
When are you releasing the next song? I don't know yet. I was just in the studio the other day.

Hopefully soon. It's been almost a year since I've released anything.

That's a long time, right? Doing music is so expensive because I just went independent like a year and a half ago or something like that.

I didn't realize how expensive it is.

Because you got to pay the hourly studio rate and then the editing, right? Yeah, well, it's like,

yeah, just to get it like mix and master it and then the distribution. And then it's like if you want to promote it or whatever, it's a lot.

And then like getting the artwork and if you want to perform it and all these things that like I'm starting to think I took my old label from Renanal

in that sense.

I can see that though. People don't know like even podcasting is is kind of expensive.
I bet actually. I mean especially with your travel alone.

Travel, studio rental, the flight here was a thousand bucks.

Hotel and then editing is crazy. I'm paying 30K a month in editing.
There's no way. Yeah, because I got hundreds of editors.
So

are you looking for one more I can edit?

I feel like podcast editing,

I'm not going to say that.

I was going to say, I don't think it's like. So you're thinking of long-form editing.
I'm talking about clips. Oh.
It's a different form.

But yeah, the long-form editing is easy because all I do on mine is censor curse words. I don't edit anything else.
Gotcha. But the short form, you need talented people to find the clips.
Oh.

They need to find the exact like opening hook that's going to keep people. Yeah.

Yeah. Which is a skill because like

whoever's doing it is good at it though. I was talking to your Instagram.
Yeah. Yeah.
We're getting a lot of views on Instagram. Yeah.
Instagram's my favorite platform right now.

It used to be TikTok but I keep getting banned.

Why? What do you post? Someone said the earth was flat. I got banned for that.
I get banned once a week. I used to think that theory was like so crazy and outlandish, like the flat earth theory.

And then like my best friend's boyfriend came over to my family's house and was like explaining it. And I was like, why is he kind of winning me over on this? Like,

why is he really making sense right now?

I don't know what I am. I just like try not to think about it.
I'm already stressed out.

I already have so much to think about. I don't need to start questioning the globe I'm on.

Fair.

But he was making a lot of really good points. I mean, I'll say that.
They sound intelligent.

The right people of that movement, but I don't know. I'm going to host a debate and see what I side with soon.

you should get him on it yeah well if he's does he have a following or not he's low-key no he's um

i don't know what he does i need someone established that's known for being a flat earther publicly yeah no yeah so i'll organize that i'm doing a lot more debates this year what have you gone down the uh conspiracy rabbit hole at all on on youtube or netflix or anything

not recently no i remember in high school i used to watch like the shane dawson conspiracy theories all the time Those are good.

But outside of that, I haven't really entertained too much of it. Yeah, I missed Shane Dawson videos.
He got really canceled.

Why did he get canceled again?

I remember that happening, but I don't remember what I was doing. I think it was some underage stuff.
It was also during peak cancel culture.

Yeah.

So like it was his bad timing.

That's something I'm so scared of because people are ruthless about it. If I'm like...

Yeah.

I think you're chilling these days. I'm like, if I talk about my visa-long cancel culture, I think it's going to like end with me getting canceled so much.

It's not as bad as it used to be. That's good.
Yeah. I'm definitely.
Yeah. Because now people move on quick.
I have noticed that. Yeah.

Like 2020 to 2022, if you did something wrong, people were ready to end your life for you. Like it's just crazy.
Yeah, I think people are going crazy during the pandemic.

Like granted, like yes, I think it's good that people are like... holding each other accountable, but I definitely think there's a line there that people are really excited to cross sometimes.

Yeah. Absolutely.
Knock on wood. I haven't been canceled yet.
Definitely have some haters. Yeah, I think I need a knock on wood.

Definitely have haters, though. Those are unavoidable.
I get you have what? Haters. Oh.
I get thousands of comments. Dang.
Yeah.

I think most of my haters are like just people from my hometown that I went to high school with. They don't fuck with you?

Like, I would say majority do, but it's more just like girls making rude comments about things or whatever. Really? Yeah.
What do they say about you?

It's more.

I'm trying to think.

Like one of the more recent ones was like someone who was like coaching at my sister's school was sitting there being like,

oh, Tess moved out to LA to do like music and all this stuff and she's not even all that. It's honestly, I would say like the biggest comment I get from people is people being like,

Tess thinks she's all that or testing she's all I'm like shouldn't everybody think they're all that? Like

do I think I'm better than other people? No, but like,

I don't know. I like confidence.
There's a, there's a line, though, with confidence and ego.

I was literally talking to someone about that yesterday because literally what the difference between like confidence and ego is, is like confidence is like, I think I'm cool and like I don't really care whether or not other people agree while ego is more solely based on what other people think.

Yeah. That's pretty accurate.
Yeah, I saw a lot of ego in LA. The more followers, especially the more followers someone had.
Mm-hmm.

They based their whole That's a crazy thing too is like the fact that I would go to like house parties and people would like check your following

That actually happens? Yes. Wow.
All the time. That's nuts.

Or like if you were to like go to the club with like a group of people like okay send your Instagram so you can see like what mutuals and all these things and it's so nuts.

That has never once happened out here. No, no one gives a shit out here.
Okay, another thing too is like, were you ever on like that party full app? Oh, yeah, I use it.

We're like, that was so prevalent in LA. They still use it in LA.
Yeah, I literally still get notifications for it every single day now.

I literally just recently now, um, last week, someone that moved here from LA used a party full in Nashville. I was like, holy crap, I forgot that thing existed.
Yeah, I mean, it's a clean app.

Like, I use Luma for my events, but Party Full is kind of similar. Yeah.
Yeah.

It's a very smart app, but I'm just like, that used to be such a big part of like nightlife in general. Yeah.
Out there.

Like, anytime anything was going on, people are like, Oh, we're just gonna check party full and see what's going on tonight. Yeah, the invite-only events.

Yeah, you ever get invited to a Diddy party?

No,

and I think I'm grateful for that. Would you go if you were invited? Knowing what I know now, no.

Maybe back then I would. Have you seen that, like, clip from Ellen?

It's like a couch full of kids, and she's like, kids, I have a surprise for you in Diddy Box. No way.
I haven't seen that one. It's like an old clip.

So, like, it was like before any of the information came out.

That's that's interesting. So bad.
Well, Ellen moved out of the country. Knew what? Ellen moved out of the country.
No way. Where is she? She's in the UK now.
Dang.

What did she get canceled for again?

Being mean. Yeah, she was being mean to her own staff, to guests, and stuff.
Which is probably like 20 years. You have to be really mean to her.

That's like the dumbest reason to get canceled. Like, if you're going to get canceled, being mean, like

that's crazy to me. Yeah, that's why.
I guess she just got, you know, that's what we were talking about earlier with ego and confidence. She just got too far in the ego.

She had the number one show for a while and then just. So there's like no more Ellen episodes at all.
I haven't seen any new ones in a long ass time. She moved when Trump got elected.

Which time? This time. Dang.
Yeah.

Well, Tess, it's been fun. Where can people find you? Anything else you want to close off with?

No, I think I'm good. People can find me on Instagram.
I literally just looked directly in in the game. Well, now you can because it's the outro.
Okay, so

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