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How Social Media Can Transform Your Dating Life| Logan Duong DSH #1285

How Social Media Can Transform Your Dating Life| Logan Duong DSH #1285

March 31, 2025 55m S1E1285

Can social media really transform your dating life? 🤔 Tune in now to this electrifying episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, where we break down all the insider secrets to dating success in the modern age! 🚀 From building a magnetic social media presence to navigating dating apps like a pro, our guest Logan shares his unconventional journey and game-changing tips to level up your love life. 💡

 

Discover how Logan harnessed the power of Instagram and dating apps to create meaningful connections, why confidence (not looks!) is the ultimate game-changer, and how maintaining mystery keeps the spark alive. ✨ Plus, shocking truths about dating dynamics, the role of mindset, and what it really takes to attract the right partner in today’s digital world! 💬

 

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 - How Women Are Born

00:27 - Intro

01:17 - How You Got Into This Space

04:59 - Looks Don’t Matter

06:25 - Nice Guys Finish Last

10:07 - Aries - Protect Yourself From EMF

10:51 - Would You Rather Be Hated or Ignored

12:29 - Why I Have Multiple Girlfriends

17:01 - How to Get a Girl to Commit

20:56 - Value of Men and Women

24:08 - Tate's Desired Family Size

29:48 - Dating Women with Attitudes

31:28 - Convincing Parents to Drop Out

32:57 - Boosting Dating App Matches

36:28 - Women's Body Count Limits

40:48 - Simps and OnlyFans Impact

44:44 - Dealing with Cheating

48:57 - Common Mistakes Killing Attraction

52:57 - Where to Find Logan

53:39 - Keys to a Successful Relationship

54:48 - Attracting Girls Without Money

55:30 - Prioritizing Mission Over Relationships

 

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We start out down here, girls start up here, right? But here's the catch for girls. Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values.
And so women are born up here, men are born down here. And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values.
And men can go up by building their power, status, and success. So girls are born as queens, guys are born as slaves.
All right, guys, we got Logan here today. He is going to help you pick up some ladies.
Thanks for coming on, man. Let's do it.
It's nice having me on, bro. Appreciate it.
Have you always had game or was it a developed skill? Yeah. So for me, it's interesting.
So I got dragged into like this whole giving advice space accidentally. And it was just from a clip of my buddy posting like a video of me making out with some chick that I met like within like 15 seconds and it went viral um but the goal of that clip the reason why he posted is because we had a clothing brand at the time and we're trying to promote the clothing brand and we're like okay the clothing brand's name was unbounded and we're like okay unbounded pulls bitches and like video went viral you know but no one bought any clothing everyone in the comments was asking how do you get girls how did he do that whatever? Whatever the fuck, he's short.
He's 5'7". He's Asian.
Never seen this happen before. What the fuck? And so it went viral.
And then I started, you know, replying to people's questions, whatever, and kind of spread into this thing of me giving advice to guys. But before that, you know, I got out of a really bad relationship, right? Heartbroken, toxic ex-girlfriend, you know, she had social media, a bunch of guy friends.
I learned the hard way about that shit. And so, you know, eventually I started searching up on YouTube when I was younger.
Um, you know, how do I get better with girls? You know, why'd she do these things? Whatever. And I found my mentor coach, Corey Wayne.
And so he's the guy that helped me out. And, uh, I know him very, very well now, but yeah, I watched a bunch of his videos, started getting good with girls, started to improve my life.
And I started to share his work with everyone else. But everyone was like, dude, I want to learn from you.
This guy's like 50. He's, he's old.
He's bald. He's talking about paging bitches and emailing bitches.
So it was a little bit outdated. And, um, you know, so I started talking about how to use social media, dating apps and a bunch of other things.
And that's where guys are like, okay, this is new. This is what's right now.
It's a new era, right? Yeah. It's way different.
Before you you would pick them up in person, but now with the apps, it's digital. Yeah, it's like once you have a social presence, bro, we don't have to leave our fucking houses.
It's all automated, basically. Right.
And there's different setups, too. Like I have my girlfriend and she's my main chick.
She is on other dating apps for other girls. And she'll see swiping on other girls to bring me over other chicks for like three months or just hanging out.
Are you serious? Yeah. If You want to see the text? I'll send you the text.
How did you work that out? I was sending Michael Sartain screenshots because she's like, she's over here in Cali and we're in Vegas and she was like matching with girls in Vegas. She's like, okay, I'm going to put you guys in a group chat.
So my dating life's automated. I automated that shit.
Wow. But when it comes to like regular, you know, for the average dude, right.
And we could talk about that later. I'll teach guys how to do that shit later.
But for the average dude, like you need to have some sort of social presence or Instagram or something. Because even if you meet a girl in person, she's still going to ask for your Instagram.
She's like, okay, let me see your Instagram. Because what they're looking for is, are you a fucking weirdo? It's like, because if you have no social media and you're just an alien, right? That's what you look like.
You have just an anonymous Instagram profile, whatever. They're like, who is this guy? Right? And so they're trying to get more info on you, which is great.
If you have a good social media, you don't give away too much info. Like if you look at my Instagram, right? See me with girls.
You see me with cars. You see me in nice places.
They're going to be like wondering, what does he do? That's a good setup for me. Right.
And, you know, it creates that, that, that, like that spark of attraction, that interest that gets her to, you know, get hooked and ask more questions. Right.
And so if you could build something like that, that's something you need to do. And I'll, I'll teach you guys how to do that as well.
And like in my courses, whatever, you know, this podcast, I'll teach you guys how to do that because it's very, very valuable. And I have always had social media.
So back in like middle school, I had my own social media because I wanted to help grow other businesses, social media. So I used to walk up to restaurants, you know, tell them, yo, I'm going to grow your social media.
And I would help them do that. Right.
Because I understood that, yo, if you have a bigger social media presence, you're gonna be able to sell more stuff or just at least raise the prices or do something that helps you, you know, raise the value of your brand. Right.
Yeah. And so that's something that, you know, it also could build a community too.
It was like when you post your customers and your clients, which I see you doing all the time, it builds that community and builds a network, which is like another value add onto the stack. And, um, I understood that for a long time and, you know, I did it for myself.
I did it for other businesses. Um, I didn't really see that many other guys doing it, but dude, in high school, whatever, it got me so many leads.
It got me so many people, businesses, whatever, at such a young age. And whenever I met girls or whatever, they'd always be talking about me, about my Instagram.
They knew who I was, even from girls from different schools, right? And that helps out a lot. And so even when you're out of high school or college, which I think is honestly the best time to get girls because you're around the most girls, right? Because when you're out of high school and college, you know, there's no social circles.
You have to build your own stuff. And so social media will help you out with that.
Yeah. The SMMA, Tai Lopez days, man.
Those are the days. Yeah.
The OG days. Yeah.
He put on a lot of people with that stuff. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Shout out to Tai.
Yeah. I think you give hope to a lot of guys because like you said earlier, you're short.
Yep. You're Asian.
Like't like short guys, allegedly, right? Yeah, allegedly. Have you run into that? That's the thing.
I genuinely believe looks don't matter. They matter to a certain extent.
They help you get your foot in the door, but I've also seen super tall guys, taller than you, super fucking jacked, suck with bitches. They can't talk to any girls.
They get their foot in the door. The girls talk to them and they realize this guy's a weirdo.

It doesn't really matter to a certain extent.

But if you are super jacked, you're

tall, you're rich, and you can talk to girls, bro, you're

chum. But very,

very rare. So the guys who

are good with girls, what I've noticed

is it doesn't really matter how tall they are.

It doesn't matter what they look like. I've seen guys

pull girls in wheelchairs. I've pulled

girls in wheelchairs. I went to an amusement park, put myself in a wheelchair, went around just getting girls' Instagrams and numbers just for fun, right? Wow.
And so just to test it out. So it's definitely possible.
And it doesn't really matter, you know, what you look like or whatever. Because here's the thing, bro, is like girls genuinely only care about one thing and it's their feelings.
That's it. They don't care about how you feel towards them.
They don't care about any of that shit. They care only about how they feel towards you.
And this goes down to every deepest level. You can do everything for a chick.
You'd be super rich. You could buy a girl a bag.
You could buy her fucking car. But if she doesn't like you, it doesn't really matter.
She would rather just spend five minutes with the guy that she likes rather than getting a car and a bag and all this other shit. Agreed.

Do nice guys finish last? Nice guys always finish last. And the reason because nice guys finish last is because they put everyone else before them.
And when you put everyone else before you, you're always going to be losing. Because when you put other people above you and you put people on a pedestal, people don't treat you the right way.
Right? Whenever you put a girl on a pedestal, whenever you put a girl above you, basically as if she's better than you, which really she's not. All people are, you know, however you treat them, right? How you view yourself is, you know, very, very important.
But if you view someone better than you, instinctively, they're going to treat you less than you, right? But if you treat people as equal or sometimes even like less than you, they're also going to reciprocate that. It's just how it is.
And so, you know, the guys who are assholes, the guys who are nonchalant, basically treating everyone like whatever, those guys are most attractive. And the reason is because girls can trust that more because the guys are not trying to get anything from the girl.
The reason why the girls don't really like nice guys and the guys who are people pleasers is because it's weird. You can't trust it.
It's like, why is this guy being so

nice to me? Because if that's it, you have everything in the world, there's no reason

for you to be going out trying to do a bunch of shit for people unless you're trying to get

something from them. Right.
And so that's why girls instinctively understand that this guy,

there's something off about this guy. The nice guy seems too desperate.
Why is he chasing after me so much? He has nothing else better to do than chasing, texting me, and calling me all day? That's literally what they're thinking. And the guy who's an asshole, the guy who has a bunch of other options, they're always questioning, does he like me? Is he into me? Why is he not texting me? Why is he not calling me? What else is he doing? Is he talking to other girls? He's already hooked, bro.
So that's the thing is is the reason why the nice guy loses is because he gives away all of his cards. He gives away all of his mysteriousness.
He tells the girl he likes her. He shows too much interest and now that's boring.
And when the thing is, you know, predictableness and being too direct and, and, and sharing everything about yourself is boring to women. Absolutely.
Because you have to create the story. If you read any book that women buy, like Fifth Shade is Great, whatever, it's a story, right? It's not a, hey, this is what I am.
This is what I like. Here's what I'm gonna do with you, whatever.
It's just, it just ruins everything, right? So women wanna be in a story. And when you ruin that story by being too nice, direct, you know, telling her everything, how you feel, whatever.
It's actually even scientific proof that like women prefer men whose feelings are unclear. Like actually scientifically proven.
Yes. They prefer men whose feelings are unclear.
Wow. Yeah.
Because the thing is, when you give away all your cards, bro, there's nothing that they could play with. It's not fun.
The game is no longer fun to them. Yeah.
Even with the relationship too. And so even with the relationship, it's like, you cannot be getting complacent when you get complacent with a girl.
She's going to start, you know, seeking attention, validation from other people, or she's going to start seeking that fun somewhere else, doing other things with their friends, whatever. So you always want to be the source of that.
You always want to be the source of the fun, the attention, whatever it may be in creating those emotions. And so even in a relationship, you have to create that roller coaster, right? What is he doing? What is he up to? Oh, he just flew to some other state for two weeks.
What the fuck? I see him posting on Instagram. Where is he at, right? So even in a relationship, you have to create that drama, right? Even Tate says, like, you have to create the drama, right? And it's better that you create the drama rather than some other people, because women are always going to crave it.
They don't crave the drama. They crave the emotions.
They crave the feeling, right? I tell guys all the time, another reason why you need to have social media, another reason why it's okay to be the asshole is it's better to be hated than to be ignored. And we understand this about social media too, is in social media world, it is much better to be slandered and talk shit upon and being hate or canceled than to be a nobody, right? It is much better to have one than the other.
And obviously it's better to be talked good upon, but that's not always the case, right? So even in social media world and in every other aspect of life, it is much better to be bold, be direct, share what you believe in and, you know, have some haters than to be a nobody. Cause dude, there's going to be so many guys that, you know, are going to be afraid to say and do what they want because they're afraid of getting canceled.
They're afraid of getting hated or girls not liking them. It doesn't matter, bro.
It's all, it's all publicity, right? If this girl doesn't like you, she talks whatever about you. Guess what? There's going to be her friends.
It is what it is. Yeah.
So many people when Dan Lazarin came on the scene, hated it. it yeah and now he was able to channel that into like a huge following yeah you know so i agree with you yeah you have to you have to even in the book 40 laws of power talks but right and just you it's much better to move with being bold and direct and and to be talked shit upon than to be ignored because if you're ignored bro it's like you don't inspire emotions you don't.
And this is why girls prefer being with a toxic asshole. That's why you see girls stay in a relationship longer with a toxic asshole than to be in a relationship with a nice guy.
They always leave and dump the nice guys, but then they happen to stay with the toxic assholes and they complain about it. So which would you rather be? Would you rather be the guy who's super nice, being walked upon, being dumped, and the girl saying, oh, well, I just wasn't feeling anymore.
You know, it's not you, it's me. That's what happens when you're too nice.
That's what happens when you don't evoke her emotions. She's going to start chasing external things besides you.
I can see that. Now you got multiple girlfriends.
So is it open on both ends? Are they allowed to hook up with other guys? No, no, no, no, no, no. The reason why is I don't think that's going to work.
Right. And the thing is, I actually think what I do works the best because I've seen it where for me personally, right.
I've tried to date just one girl one-on-one. And for some reason it just doesn't work for me.
For me personally, it doesn't work. However, I still help guys.
If that's what they want, that's what they want. Right.
For me, that is something that it just doesn't work for me talking to one girl only you know because you travel a lot i travel a lot i do a bunch of stuff and plus i want to it's like i i was actually lying to myself back then of like oh i only want to talk to you whatever i was still interested in other girls right and you know that's actually not fair to the girl it's not fair to the girl it's not fair to me either and so i was actually in the past i was very inauthentic with what i wanted and I was actually lying to the girl. It's not fair to the girl.
It's not fair to me either. And so I was actually in the past, I was very inauthentic with what I wanted.
And I was actually lying to the girls, lying to myself. And it wasn't fair.
And the girl could sense, the girl could feel it. And, you know, I was also unhappy too.
And so I believe that if that's what you want, then that's what you want. But for me, I always knew what I wanted, but society, whatever, friends, family, they shamed me.
Marriage. Yeah, you know, you only talk to one girl, whatever.
Bro, here's the thing. It is actually incredibly rare for a guy to be talking to multiple girls.
It's actually the other way around now. Most girls are talking to at least five other dudes.
Jeez, that's crazy. At least, bro.
At least. Ask any girl, like, how many guys are you playing right now? I have a few, right? It's just how it is.
I got a roster. I got a roster.
Every single girl role. And so it used to be the opposite, but now it's like most guys are, you know, guys, most guys are virgins.
More girls are, have higher body counts than men now. Right.
Yeah. So it's completely flipped.
But for me, the reason why I like to have multiple girlfriends and like, I like talking to multiple girls, just, you know, that's just what I want. That's what I, what I like.
And I've been able to negotiate for it, right? You don't get what you want in life. You get what you negotiate.
And so I've been able to just, you know, very directly tell girls like, Hey, you know, even from the get go, when I first meet girls and people are like, that's unfair. You're manipulating the girl.
You're, you're lying to the girl by having other girls inside. No dude, on the first date, I'm telling the girl, I have other girls.
I'm not going to settle down. So if you want to stay with me, great.
We're going to have some fun and I'm going to take care of you. Otherwise, cool.
You can walk away. But they never walk away.
Because being direct in that way is so respectful. Like imagine a guy telling you directly like, hey, this is who I am.
This is what I believe in. If you fuck with it, dope.
If you don't, fuck off. Yeah yeah because they don't got to worry about being cheated on behind their back exactly bro so the thing is girls accept what they respect so when they accept it because they respect it that's it yeah so the thing is like you'll see a bunch of girls being okay there's like a clip going viral where it's like hey would you rather be with a rich guy but he, but he cheats on you, or be with a broke dude, but he's completely low, head over heels, and loves you all his heart? I'd choose the rich guy.
It's not because he has money. It's just the fact that, you know, there's other things about him that she'll accept.
Right. And so girls will accept, and they don't mind sharing an alpha male, right? Girls don't mind sharing an alpha male.
And if you ask a girl, hey, would you rather share an alpha or stay completely loyal to beta? They're always going to say, I'd rather share an alpha, right? So it is what is. You ask any girl, any girl that has been with a guy that she really likes, she's going to be okay with sharing him with other girls.
And the way to set it up as a guy though, is for me, I did the Dan Bilzerian approach. Like I approached it like, Hey, this is what I want.
You know, I got a relationship and I was like, yo, I know what I want now. I know what I'm looking for in a girl, whatever.
And so I told her, yo, like, you know, if you want to be taken serious by me, you want to be in a serious relationship with me, you know, one, you can't have guy friends. Can't be having social media.
Wow, not even guy friends. No guy friends, no social media.
So she deleted her social media. Wow.
You know, and, you know, no whole friends either, right? I told her, yo, if you want to be with me, you know, I'm going to take care of you, whatever. You know, I'm going to love you.
But these are my requirements. These are my standards.
Because I understand that when a girl has social media, what is that? She's advertising to other men that she is single or she's open or she's looking for the another lineup the thing is about a girl having guy friends each single guy friend is a guy that she has fucked the guy that she will fuck or guy that she's currently fucking that's the thing about a girl who has guy friends and they use it as a plan b in a backup option i'll ask you a question is who are you going to be more committed to are you going to to be more committed to the girl that you are only talking to? Or are you going to be more committed to a girl where you have other girls on the side and you have other options? Only talking to. Exactly.
So girls feel the same way. It's like, yo, I want the most commitment out of a girl.
How do I get that? Get rid of the social media. Get rid of the guy friends.
Because here's the thing. That's even divorce rates.
Do you think the divorce would be as high as it is now if girls weren't incentivized to get money? Girls are getting paid to get divorced. Imagine if it was like, hey, you actually lose money if you get divorced.
You actually don't get the kids if you get divorced. You think divorces are going to keep going up? No, it'll be way less.
Exactly. So the thing is like, they're getting incentivized to have other options, to move on quicker.
It's not good. It's not good for anyone.
And the thing is like, I'm like, if, if, if she's cool and I'm cool, we're going to stay together. The thing is about girls, bro, is they can have everything under the sun.
But if for whatever reason, if you are not leading the relationship, you can be the best guy for her. You provide for her, whatever.
But if you're not leading, you're not invoking her emotions, she's going to walk away. No guy's going to do that, bro.
Every guy, if a girl is chill, she doesn't have to evoke no emotions. She can just be chilling.
We're not going to leave her. If she doesn't cause any headaches, we're not going to leave her.
That's the difference between guys and girls. Girls naturally need these things.
Guys, we don't need those things. Right? We can just talk to a girl, be in a relationship with her.
She can be chill

and we're like, alright, this is dope.

It's just not how it works. Yeah.
I wish.

I wish. No, I've seen Myron talk about

this where girls initiate divorce way more

than guys, right? Oh, 100%. Yeah.

75% or some shit like that is like

75% of divorces are initiated by women

or some shit. Damn, that's nuts.
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, because they just get bored, right?

They get bored, bro. I don't know.
I don't know any guy that's been like, you know what? This girl cooks for me. She didn't talk to anyone else.
And she loves me so much. Man, I'm just going to divorce her.
You've never heard that ever before, bro. No guys ever.
But I guarantee, bro, I've heard this from girls all the time. You know, he was perfect.
He was great with the kids. Oh, he loved me so much.
But man, I just had to go fuck the other dude. Bro, you hear all the time, bro.
And it's sad. It's, it's fucked up.
That's why a lot of guys go deep in this red pill shit. Cause they're like, Oh fuck, I hate women.
Or, you know, this pisses me off. What's your take on the red pill stuff? You know, some of it's good.
It's truthful, but it's not the solution. Right.
Right. This is a problem, problem, problem.
Like, oh, you know, these are all problems,

but what's the solution to this?

How can we actually do something with it?

And that's the one thing is like,

the red pill is a lot of problem awareness,

which is dope, right?

But there's not a lot of solutions.

And so it gets guys stuck and just focusing.

I hate women.

I hate women.

Because they do this, this, that.

True.

But there's other things you could do to win, right?

And so I'm not mad.

It's like, okay, cool.

Girls are much easier to move on and they're only loyal to their emotions. Okay.
Then I'm going to do everything in my power to invoke as much emotions and get the most out of it as well. Right? Okay, cool.
If I make you feel good, then you want to keep talking to me, then you can't be having social media. Right? Right? So, all right, cool.
I make you feel good. You want to be in relationship with me? Well, you can't have guy friends.
It's not saying like I'm making them do it. It's more of like, yo, you like me.
You like the feelings I give you. You like the relationship that we're in.
You want this to continue. These are my standards.
These are my boundaries. That's how I lay it out with girls.
And that's why I get what I want. Yeah.
Basically. You're never getting married.
No, no. Um, the thing is maybe back in like a hundred years ago, 20 years ago when marriage was like, I don't know, like not tied down by the government and like the government didn't have their fingers everywhere in it.
Then yeah, but dude, the government has their, has their fingers in it. And it's, it's weird now because it's like girls now incentivize to get divorced and to take the kids.
And you know, it's just too much of a headache. I'd rather just tell her, yo, we're married.
Yeah. Yo, you're my wifey.
Cool. That's better than like actually legally getting married.
Yeah. Also 120 years ago, a lot of the wives were virgins.
Yeah. That too, bro.
Yeah. So it's like now we're like paying over price.
It's like whole inflation. Pay over price for the same thing.
Yeah. These body counts just disturb me.

I see videos every day about it.

Yeah.

And that's the thing.

I made a video, right?

I made a video talking about,

you know, how men and women are valued. And I got canceled for it back in high school.

And I said,

men are valued based upon their power,

success, and status.

Right? But here's the catch. We start out down here, girls start up here, right? But here's the catch for girls.
Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values. And so women are born up here, men are born down here.
And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values, and men can go up by building their power, status, and success. So girls are born as queens.
Guys are born as slaves, right? But there's an inverse. Guys can actually build their value, but they're born as nothing.
And girls are born with value, but they could lose their value. And so that's the catch.
The girls that sleep with a bunch of dudes, they do a bunch of drugs. They're out paring and showing their titties and ass on TikTok and all these other places.
They're lowering their value. Right.
The reason why girls keep doing it, though, is because a rapper or celebrity sleeps with them. And now they think, oh, well, I'm having sex with him.
So this is I'm still winning. It's like, no, he's not going to marry you, though.
Yeah, he's not going to take you seriously. There's a difference.
Right. And guys know this, but girls don't know this.
They've been lied to. And so they think sleeping with a guy who's rich or successful or whatever is cool.
This is dope. Like, okay, here's the catch though.
Watch when you want to get married to them. They're not going to want to marry you.
And that's when girls hit the wall, right? When girls are young, right? When they're 20, 25, 26, 27, they're having fun. It's all cool.
Watch when they want to settle down so they're having kids. All those guys that they slept with don't want to marry them.
They don't want to take them seriously. And that's when girls hit the wall and realize, oh, fuck.
I shouldn't have went to college. I shouldn't have wasted time partying and sleeping with a bunch of dudes.
I should have actually spent my 20s looking for the right guy. Because it gets harder as they get older too.
And the thing is, guys, we hit the wall like pretty much as soon as fucking possible. Yeah.
We hit the wall like 20 when we realize, oh, fuck, you know, staying where I'm at, you know, working at McDonald's, you know, not doing what I want and not chasing after my dreams. I'm not going to get to where I want to be.
Dude, we hit the wall fast as fuck. Right.
We realize, oh, fuck, girls aren't going to like us if we act like simps. We get destroyed when we act like simps.
So we hit the wall very, very soon. All of us have had our heartbreaks at like at least 16, 17, 18, right? So we hit the wall and we realize things aren't working.
Girls don't hit that wall because girls can just exist and they'll be winning. 16, 17, 18, 19, all the way until like 25, they're getting to the clubs for free.
They're having sex with a bunch of famous dudes. They're going to hit up and flown out to Dubai.
Right? And they don't do anything. They don't really see the wall until what they want, they can't get.
That's so true. Yeah.
You mentioned kids earlier. Is that something you ever want? Yeah.
I want a bunch of kids for sure. Yeah.
I want a bunch of kids. I'm probably have some now.
I don't know where they're at. We'll see.
Tate wants 20 guys. Yeah.
20 guys. And then he already has some daughters.
So he'll probably have like 25-30 kids yeah yeah yeah that's a lot that's nuts Elon's at 14 I think I want like 3 dude yeah anything past 10 is a lot yeah it is a lot bro it is a lot but with your method it's doable but since I'm with I'm with one girl I mean yeah 3 kids is a lot for one woman to carry so yeah we gotta get some more girls I need to know how you negotiated this man like this has one girl ever acted out lashed out well they don't lash out the thing is like like the thing is there's been some girls that walked away though and that's okay yeah right it's like some girls are just not with it they're not down with it and that's completely fine that's cool right um and that's what you have to be willing to lose right but the thing is a lot of guys oh my god i'm so afraid to lose a girl oh my god i don't want to do that i don't want i don't want to make her mad it's like bro that's what you have to be willing to lose. Right.
But I think a lot of guys, oh, my God, I'm so afraid to lose a girl. Oh, my God, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to I don't want to make her mad. It's like, bro, that's thinking from a scarcity.
The other thing is, like, even when that doesn't actually happen and you just think of abundance, like, hey, I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to get what I want, whatever.
And everything's going to be cool. You tend to win more when you're already thinking in a bad position.
You tend to fuck yourself over and shoot yourself in the foot. So it's already you're shooting yourself way too soon down.
Like you don't want to do that. Right.
So always thinking from abundance is, Hey, like always act. And whenever I'm coaching a guy and they asked me about a girl problem, I'm texting this girl, I'm calling her whatever.
And she's not responding or, Oh, my girlfriend's doing this. What do I do? And I'm like, okay, if you had 10 other girls, would you give a fuck? No.
The answer is always no. Because like, well, let me think about this.
If I had 10 other girls, would I really care about if this girl's not texting me? No. That's abundance.
Right. Right.
Now, the cool skill you could have is to actually have that abundance without having to have 10 girls. If you could naturally have that abundance without needing 10 girls, that's cool.
Yeah. Right.
So if you could automatically like put that into your mindset that, hey, I always have other options because you do, bro, there are more girls out there than you, than you can actually physically approach. There are more women out there, more attractive women than you can actually approach.
If you went to go approach girl every single minute, you wouldn't even be able to talk to all of them. So it's real.
The abundance is real. Girls automatically know this abundance too.
Girls already have this abundance mindset. Well, they already live in it, but they already have this abundance, somewhat delusional mindset all the fucking time.
They're just programmed with it and it works for them. Right.
And the thing is for guys is a lot of guys have self-limit beliefs. They don't believe they can do it.
Right. They don't believe that I am enough.
And that's the issue is like, they don't believe that they're enough. They don't believe that, Hey, they are the prize.
If they make themselves the prize, not just saying you're the prize, but if you actually make yourself the prize, you put in the work. Right.
And that you are valuable. A lot of guys don't believe that.
And, and, you know, it's sad to see, but I'm telling you, once you, you, once you fix your mindset, once you fix these things, everything else changes. The second I started believing in myself more, the second I started to believe in what I did, everything started to get better.
Right. And so self-belief is, is, is absolutely huge.
That confidence is a game changer. Yeah.
That's confidence. That's you asking girl, what do you like in a guy? Confidence.
Yeah. Every single time.
You could look hideous, but if you have confidence and you're, you can make them laugh. Exactly.
Yeah. You can't be opposed.
You can't. The thing is, girls are always going to shit test too for your confidence.
And so even if I say I'm a confident dude and I go out with a chick and she shit tests me and I fail, you're not really confident. Right.
And girls test me all the fucking time because they'll watch these videos and they'll be like, oh, so you like talking to multiple girls? And they'll shit test me. I'm like, yeah, I do.
Yeah. You know, it's like little things like that.
It's like they're always going to shit test you. They're always going to tease you or whatever to try to piss you off.
Try to, you know, to just test you, to see what you're really made of. And girls are naturally programmed with this and never stop testing.
Every single married guy I talked to, they're always like, oh my God, my wife is back at it with the testing and the bullshit, whatever. I'm like, bro, the reason why they do this is because they want to make sure and they want to test your strength.
They want to feel comfortable being around a man that knows who he is and doesn't give a fuck and doesn't get pushed off his center. When a girl can push off of your center, make you weak and make you upset, make you insecure.
Right. If a girl told me, oh, you're short.
And I was like, oh, okay. So you don't like me.
That's being insecure. When a girl tells me I'm short, I'm like, well, your friends love my height.
I don't care. It doesn't affect me because I have such, you know, a strong belief and confidence in myself.
I don't care. And when you don't care, you start to become more successful.
And guess what? The person who cares the least has the most power. And this is why it's very, very important.
Going back to the nice guy, asshole thing. Like the guys who care the least have the most power.
That's why girls are attracted to them. Right.
And girl never wants to feel like she has more power than you. If she feels like she has more power than you, she bounces.
Because they're in their masculine energy. Exactly.
Yeah, power is not a feminine thing. Power is a very masculine thing, right? Feminine energy is all about nurturing, caring, right? And in relationships.
Yeah. So when guys move into their feminine, right? When they start calling and texting, reach out to the girls a bunch.
When the guy starts asking, yo, what are we? When the guy starts asking, yo, can we be boyfriend and girlfriend, right? He's moving into his feminine. He starts caring about nurturing, loving relationships.
He moves into his feminine. That's going to turn a feminine woman off.
Feminine women want a guy who's masculine. Masculine energy is all about drive, purpose, and mission, right? And this is why girls love guys who are on those things, right? So assholes, for example, I wouldn't say being an ass, we're going to keep talking about this, but like the reason why the girl prefers the asshole over the nice guy is because he has more masculine dominant traits than the nice guy.
Not saying he's perfect, however, right? There's more perfect things than being an asshole. However, he has just more attractive traits, right? The fact that he doesn't give a fuck about what anyone thinks, right? The fact he can just move on, doesn't care about what the girl thinks, whatever, and he has other options, right? And he's not afraid to be an asshole to her.
And so the reason why she finds that more attractive is because she trusts it more, right? It's more authentic than the guy who's like, oh my God, I'll do anything for you. And he simps for her, trying her trying to send her money, whatever that is like begging and trying to buy her, you know, attention and sex or whatever.
That's weird. That comes off unnatural as fuck.
The, the asshole is just coming off more natural and that's why he's more attractive. So.
Could you date a woman that had an attitude? No, I don't even talk to girls. There's been so many times where I've been on a date with a chick and she starts pulling out some attitude.
I know her and it's maybe it's a test. Maybe it's real.
Maybe she has some issues, whatever. And she starts freaking out about something like, all right, cool.
I'm just going to drop you off. And she'd be like, why, why? What's happening? What's wrong? I'm like, no, I just don't have time for this.
That's it. I move on.
And then she always hits me up later. She's like, oh, why'd you drop me off? Well, why are we still, are you still cool with me? Do you like me? What's wrong? Like, Hey, like, you know, we can meet up.
We can hang out if you fix your attitude, right? Once you fix your attitude, we can meet up. We can have some fun.
Right. But I'm not going to hang out with you if you have a bad attitude.
If you have, you know, whatever going on. That doesn't, that my life, I try to make my life drama free as fuck, bro.
Like drama free as fuck.. That's why I am super honest with everyone about everything.

It's no longer like trying to lie

or trying to fomestate.

It's like,

dude,

this is what I want.

This is what I'm looking for.

And that's it.

And so any girl

who tries to cause trouble

or whatever,

she's like,

all right,

get out of my life.

That's it.

Walk away.

You got to protect your peace,

man.

Dude.

Because we got a lot of shit

to do during the day.

We don't want to be coming home

and dealing with other fires.

Dude,

exactly,

bro.

Yeah.

When you're,

when you're focused

on other bigger things, like, bro, the last thing all you worry about is some chick causing a bunch of drama. She should be at least some sort of piece cooking you food, you know, helping you out, doing the dishes.
Like those are the things that guys really, really love. And I give this girl, give advice to girls all the time about that shit, dude.
If you want to keep a guy, you want that celebrity, whatever, bro, these are the things you got to do. Cook, clean, X, Y, Z, all these things.
And they're like, oh, I don't want to do that. All right.
Then have fun being a cat lady. I got to hear about your conversation with your Asian parents on how you convince them about this lifestyle.
Oh man, dude. Yeah.
Yeah. So like my dad, right.
And my mom, obviously, even when I was like wanting to be an entrepreneur and probably you too, bro, is like, they like oh but it's risky oh but you know that you need you should go to college you should go do something else right the thing is i did listen to them right i joined the military just because my dad was like yo you have to either join the military go to college damn yeah and i was like all right i'll join the military fuck it i also like the military too look dope, right? It's not what it actually is though. It's kind of a scam.

Oh, is it?

Oh, a hundred percent.

And we could do another podcast

on that shit too.

But it's not what it is, right?

And the thing is,

I know so many guys

who've gone to college

just because their parents told them to.

Right.

It's like, do you really-

Especially Asians.

Oh, a hundred.

Yeah.

You gotta be a doctor or some shit.

It's like, bro, what the fuck?

The thing is we've realized now,

but there's other ways,

but they don't see that.

And that's okay, right?

But the thing is, as a dude, you have to be able to do what you want to do, despite the consequences and good and bad. Right.
And there's consequences, everything you do in entrepreneurship, especially. And when I told them, I want to be an entrepreneur, I want to do this.
You know, they're like, oh, that's risky, whatever. And I just had to show them.
You just have to show them. And now once I'm, once once I'm successful once I'm getting billions of views now they're like okay you should keep oh we always support you it's like oh of course he did oh of course yeah so that's how it is that's how parents that's how mine was too yeah you can't get mad at them it is what is I even if I was in their shoes bro I'd be like I would be telling my kids the same shit because it worked for them exactly yeah but it's a new era now media.
And so even with the girls though, I was like, my parents, you know, bro, I got caught by my dad so many times sneaking girls in the room. And the thing is, bro, like when I was 16, 17, I was on Tinder.
Yeah. And this is how I got good with girls actually is I was meeting up and matching with girls who were 20, 21, 22 in college.
Yes, bro. Cougars to me.
Yeah. because you had to be 18, I thought on Tinder.
Did you lie about your age? Yeah. 16, 17.
Girls do all the time too, bro. Yeah.
And so I put 16, 17. I treated it as a game, bro.
And dude, I had girls picking me up from school because they had cars. I didn't have a car back then.
I had bitches picking me up from school. You know, I had girls like, you know, taking me to places, whatever, because I didn't have a car.
So I was like, okay, all the girls my age don't have cars. Girls who are in college have cars.
Then you start talking to these girls. And plus they were more fun.
you know, I had girls like, you know, taking me to places, whatever, because I didn't have a car. So I was like, okay, all the girls my age don't have cars.
Girls who are in college have cars. They can start talking to these girls.
And plus they were more fun, you know? Um, and they, they had more access to stuff. They could bring me to bars and clubs.
I got exposed to a lot of this stuff at a really, really young age because I hung, I was hanging out with older chicks that just, you know, brought me into cool parties, whatever. And, uh, some of us were just friends.
Some of us were just hooking up, whatever. But yeah, that was a, that was a pretty interesting thing.
And like, I also kind of went viral on that too. Um, it was like a thing cause all my guy friends back, back in high school, they're like, Oh, how the fuck are you doing this? What the fuck? And I just put them all in the method of, of getting Tinder, Bumble and social media stuff.
And they're all grinding out too. And it worked for them too.
Um, and so I got a lot of experience doing that stuff when I was younger.

I don't advise guys to do that now if they're young.

Just because social media is not even worth their time, bro.

The day apps are so booked.

When I was on Tinder at 16, 17, and I was like 2015 or some shit, it was so prime.

Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, all these amps were so fucking good, bro.

Now you literally have to be the top, top 0 0.1 of dudes to actually get some matches what caused that you think well there's more there's way more guys on dating apps than girls that's for sure um and girls only swipe on like one out of like every fucking 20 guys that they see damn yeah and so it's opposite for guys guys are mostly swiping a bunch of chicks so that's the difference also if you want another tip for guys that they see. Damn.
Yeah. And so it's opposite for guys.
Guys are mostly swiping a bunch of chicks. So that's the difference.
Also, if you want another tip for guys on the dating apps as well is the reason why your score and they actually score you on these dating apps. So to get a higher score on dating apps, which basically a higher score gets you seen in front of more people.
Yeah. Girls, if you're hot, you're on my, even if you're a mid girl, you're getting a bunch of a higher score because everyone's swiping on you as a guy.
Guys are going to be swiping on these bitches all the time. But for a guy to raise your score, you obviously have to be swiped on by a lot of attractive women or just a lot of women in general.
Right. But what also lowers your scores by swiping on a bunch of people because the score actually determined is determined by how many people you're swiping on, too.
Oh, wow. Yes.
Your score lowers if you swipe on a bunch bunch of people because guess what? They know that attractive people aren't liking everyone, right? Because people only like people at their level or higher, right? And so if you're a hot guy, right, you're only going to be swiping on hot girls or nothing else. And so if you want to build your score, especially when you're first starting a dating app, only swipe on like one out of every 10 girls you see.
It sounds so low, but you start doing that for like a month or whatever, you're only going to start matching with super hot chicks or you're going to start being seen by a lot of hotter women. That's good advice.
Yeah, dude, that's, that's prime. So that shit's fire.
I always did that stuff. Um, and like for, for guys who are, you know, not used to social media or dating apps or whatever, like you have to be posting good quality pictures check out my Instagram check out your Instagram

whatever

learn how to

you know

actually be okay

being in front of the camera

stop being so awkward

in front of the camera

right

because this is something

you have to be good at

and it's very very important

absolutely

so yeah

is there a limit

on a woman's body count

for you to date them

there's no specific number

obviously if it's like

past fucking 10

that shit's crazy

to me

and obviously

there's girls out there

with like what

like a thousand

yeah a thousand in a day

Thank you. there's no specific number.
Obviously, if it's like past fucking 10, that shit's crazy to me.

And obviously, there's girls out there with like, what?

Like a thousand?

Yeah, a thousand in a day.

Crazy, bro.

Bonnie Blue.

Crazy XP, bro.

Yeah, for me, it's like, you know,

it honestly really depends on like,

obviously, we know that girls who have higher body counts are a lot more desensitized to things, right?

Like, you can't really even evoke their emotions anymore. Sex is nothing to them.
And so it really just depends, right? It's like, are you talking to a girl that has a lot of issues? Does she have daddy issues? The thing is, I don't really care about body counts. I care about the deeper lying issues, daddy issues.
Does she have a bad relationship with her parents, right? Because the thing is, dude, every single girl you talk to who has a huge body count, you ask them, how's the relationship with your father? Oh, I hate him. Oh, I don't even know him.
Right. Oh, he's fucking dead.
Oh, whatever the fuck. Oh, he beat my mom.
Like, it's some crazy shit. Every single time and a girl has a bunch of issues, it always stems from the family.
Even for us, bro. A lot of our issues stem from our families too.
Yeah, no, I had mommy issues, bro. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So our issues stem from our parents too. And I care about more about that than anything else, right? Because that's going to figure out a bunch of other things.
Body gown is just one part of it. If I can figure out the deeper lying issue, I'll be able to figure out a bunch of other stuff of like, cool, is this girl more fun to play with or more fun to date? And you have to understand there's two different types of girls, bro.
They're going to be fun. Some girls are just fun to date and some girls girls are just fun to play with.
You got two buckets. Exactly.
Yeah. And the issue with guys is they treat the girls that are fun to play with like the wifeys.
Right. And they get fucked over hard.
You have to treat them differently, bro. And when the thing is, when you treat a girl likes to have fun and a girl who is meant for fun, too serious, she's going to walk over you.
She's not going to treat you like with respect. She's not going to take you seriously, whatever.
And so overall though, actually girls don't like being taken seriously at all overall, right? When a guy starts to take a girl seriously, he starts to actually give a fuck about what she says and it allows her words to affect him. That guy is in her eyes weak, right? So if a girl can say or do anything to emotionally affect you, you're weak because a guy who has options, a guy who's abundant and a guy who is sure about himself wouldn't care.
Right? Now that doesn't mean you don't set boundaries and standards, but it means like whatever shit test she does, it doesn't affect you. Um, and even like with a, with a girl making fun of your looks, your height, um, anything about you, you just can't care about it.
You always have to be playful. And that's the thing is learning how to just be playful and not give me a fuck is alpha.
When a girl can test a guy and she can make fun of a guy or she can try teasing a guy and he doesn't give a fuck, she's like, fuck, this guy's hot. Because she can't do anything to control him.
Women want mastery over a man that cannot be mastered. That was a quote from Stefan Arnio.
And it's a super powerful quote because girls are always gonna to be trying to do things to get master over a man. She's only going to be trying to do things.
Oh, stop hanging out with your boys. Stop going out.
Stop doing these things, right? That make you, you. And if you do those things, you actually listen to her, which we've seen a lot of guys, probably our friends that we've lost in the past to simping, right? Guys who start doing all the things that she says, and then she starts to disrespect him.
She starts to treat him less. And then eventually she divorces him or cheats on him.
So that's the catch is women want mastery over men that cannot be mastered. And what that means is girls are always going to be trying to do these things.
And it's this forever loop, but girls want to tame this beast. And once they tame the beast, she doesn't want him anymore.
And so you always have to be the beast that can't be tamed. You always have to be the man that cannot be mastered, right? You always have to be him, right? And that's the thing is a lot of guys, they get the girl and they give up.
They think the mission's over. Yeah.
Bro, you're in a world for a lot of hurt and suffering. If you believe that just getting the girl, you got to relationship with the girl, everything is over.
That's the first step. Yeah.
Right. There's a lot more after that.
Yeah. And the bigger step is always your mission and purpose.
That's, and the thing about your mission and purpose is it never really ends. Right.
It's still, I'm still trying to figure mine out. It always keeps evolving.
Yeah. Like my mission purpose, like five years is way different.
You know, it always keeps evolving and changing, growing. And right.
And so when you think that, Oh, you know, this is it, this is the goal. Like, no, dude, I have a bunch of people talking to me, hitting me up on Instagram.
Oh, you made it, bro. You got the super car.
Like, no, dude, like to me, I didn't make it to them. They made it right if they had it.
But to me, it's like, no, there's so much more I need to accomplish. Yeah.
That's just one goal, right? Yeah. That's just one of the things.
I'm going to conquer the world out here. Yeah, exactly, bro.
We're trying to take over the world. Yeah.
A lot of simps, man. That's why OF crushes it the way it does.
If we're being honest. Yeah.
You know, these girls are making stupid money. I've had a lot of them on the show.
Yeah. I talk about this too.'s like, I don't even get mad at OnlyFans.
Girls get mad at the simps, bro. It's because OnlyFans wouldn't exist if simps didn't exist.
Right. Well, the only reason why OnlyFans exists is because guys are giving it money.
Don't get mad at the OnlyFans chicks, bro. If girls were giving me money for, you know, doing whatever the fuck and it was just giving me money, money, money.
I was like, fuck it. Okay.
I'll just keep doing it. Why not? Thing is, it's not how it works for guys though.
But for girls, bro, they're getting sent a bunch of money. A bunch of simps are giving money for doing whatever.
That's the reason why I exist. And so that's why I talk so heavily on men too.
It's like, you know, I'll have a bunch of videos talking about girls and how they can improve, but especially for guys, bro, most guys are fucking simps sending girls a bunch of money, giving girls a bunch of their time, energy, and attention for free.

Right? A lot of the guys on OnlyFans, they're not

only giving away their money, they had to

work for that money. So they're giving away their time.

They're giving away their attention too because now they're paying

attention to this chick. And they're giving away for free.

When you give these things away for free, you

lower your value. That is low

value activity. That is beta male activities.

Like when you do these things for free with nothing

in return, you are just

you're a loser, bro. That's it.

You're a loser. And the thing is you cannot give out these things unless you're given something in return.
I don't let, I don't give attention to any girls unless they give me something in return. I don't even give girls sex unless, Hey, is, is the clothes folded? Is laundry done? Is there a sandwich ready? Right? Those are the things like you, when you give girls too soon, for free, without them doing anything, they don't respect it.
The reason why girls don't respect so many guys is because so many guys are hitting them up. So many guys are doing all these things, messaging, calling them all the time.
And the girl's like, I didn't even do anything. Why the fuck would she respect him? Why the fuck is she going to care about him? She's not.
So it's very, very important for a guy to withhold his energy, right? We talk about peace, right? And the thing is, you can only give those things away. You can only give away your energy, give away your power.
The thing is guys just give it away for free because guys are told to. It's like, hey, bro, buy the girl flowers.
Call the girl all the time and do all these things. Sip for her and you'll get her, bro.
Fuck, no, it's a scam. It's a Hollywood lie.
It's a Hollywood lie. It's fucking lying the median from feminism that guys are being told to give away all their resources.
Give the girl all your time because that's what good guys do. It's a fucking lie, bro.
You do that shit, you're going to walk over, you're going to get cheated on. You're going to fuck the dude that doesn't even care about her in front of you or some crazy shit.
You hear about it all the time. So you don't want to be that guy.
And so many guys learn the hard way and they keep being lied to. And even your own family is sometimes the biggest liars too, bro.
And they don't know it though. But even your mom, I know a lot of guys who suck women, didn't grow up with a father figure.
They only grew up around their mom and their sister. And when you ask girls for advice, what do they tell you? They give you advice on how to basically become a guy that a woman can manipulate every single time.
When you ask a girl for advice, she's going to give you advice that is based upon her feelings, not based upon what works. No girl's going to tell you, okay, you got to be an asshole.
You got to ignore her. You got to do this.
No girl's going to fucking tell you that ever. Even your mom or your sister, because they want to tell you what they want to hear too.
That's why asking advice from girls, that's why I hate female dating coaches. Sadia Khan.
Yeah. I do not like female dating coaches at all because the advice that they give is so emotional.
It's very rare when a girl can actually think from a man's perspective. It's basically impossible.
Okay. So when a girl's giving advice, they're giving advice based upon how they feel.
If you ask any girl, what do you look for in a man? Oh, I want a guy who's nice, who treats me right. You know, he doesn't try to hook up with my friends.
You know, he only talks to me. Okay, cool.
I'm going to give you this guy right now. He's boring because she has mastery over him.
Like we talked about earlier, when you have mastery over men, it becomes boring. She moves on to the next thing.
And so the guy that she has mastery over is the beast that got tamed. Right.
And so you have to be that guy that, that cannot be tamed, the guy that cannot be mastered. When guys get cheated on and they come to you for advice, what do you tell them? Yeah.
So when a guy comes to me for advice, you know, what I ask him is like, what are you trying to get out of it? Right. Are you trying to get the girl back? Are you, you know, what, what's your goals? And most of the time when a guy comes to me saying, yo, my girl cheated on me, what do I do? It's more of like, so if the guy has some respect, at least he's like, yo, I want to get revenge on her or something.
Right. And if the guy's retarded, he's like, oh, okay.
I want to get her back. The guy that I tell that to the guy that I tell that wants to get her back after she cheated on him is like, bro, you're a cuck.
Okay. Number one, you're a cuck.
Number two, she doesn't want you. She already chose another guy.
She doesn't want you, bro. There's no coming back from that.
No coming back. Even if a girl starts seeking attention and validation.
I think cheating starts way before she actually sees another guy. She started cheating when she was already texting the guy.
She's already cheating when she's posting booty pics on Instagram and getting likes from other guys. That's where I see the cheating, right? And so the cheating starts way before actually fucking happens, right? There's a, there's a lot of steps, right? She has to somehow meet the guy, get his number.
Then she has to text him. Then she has to call him and then they have to meet up and then they have to make out.
And there's like so many steps in between until it actually happens. Like, bro, there's so many times where you could have stopped it.
So it's always the guy's fault. I actually blame cheating on the guy's fault, right? Because if a girl cheats on you, you allowed her to.
Why the fuck are we in a relationship with this girl? Why were you even talking to this girl? Because I could point out so many problems this guy didn't see. I'll ask the guy, okay, let's go cheat on you.
Whose fault is it? He'll be like, oh, it's hers. Like, no, bro, it was yours.
Because you got in a relationship with her. He'll be like, well, I didn't see it coming.
I didn't see the red flag. Okay, cool.
What was the relationship with her dad like? Well, she didn't have a dad. Okay, boom.
Right. You could have paid attention to that.
Did she have social media? Yeah, she has social media. Okay, boom.
Another one. Okay, did she have whole friends? Yeah, they're always going out, taking her out to the club.
Okay, boom. Another one.
So there's so many things where it's the guy's fault for not paying attention, taking these girls seriously. And so that's why I tell the guy, look at all these things that you fucked up on.
I don't even give a fuck about the girl. I care about what you're fucking up on because here's the thing we could, I could, you know, cope and help him cope and be like, Oh, it's okay, bro.
You know, she cheated on you. You know, you'll just find another one.
You know, she wasn't the right one for you. And then he goes to another girl and she does the same thing.
That guy can actually meet a most perfect girl, a princess, an angel, a virgin. And if he acts the way he does, she'll still cheat on him.
Wow. A hundred percent.
Because girls are trainable, right? And girls are followers. Men are leaders.
So without realizing it, even going back to the OnlyFans and simping, girls are being led by men. Why? Because men are giving them money, attention, validation.
So men are subconsciously, without knowing, leading the women to doing these things because they're giving them money.

If all the men stopped paying money, guess what?

They wouldn't keep doing it.

No girl would be the only OnlyFans anymore.

And now there's 1.2 million girls on OnlyFans.

Exactly.

So men are always leading, subconsciously or consciously.

And no matter what, men are always leading something, right?

Girls are naturally followers, okay?

Girls are going to follow either society

or they're going to follow a strong man.

Right now, they're just following society, right?

My girls follow me, obviously.

Your girls follow you.

But the girls who don't follow anyone,

they just follow society.

And whatever society has,

whatever programmings they have,

whatever brainwashing they have,

the girls are going to follow them.

And it is what they're going to follow,

whatever beliefs they have.

Because unless a girl finds a strong man

that she can actually follow and trust and submit to,'s not gonna she's only gonna listen to society okay even her family too women don't listen to their family or or the bible whatever or religion they follow society so whatever society says is okay they're gonna listen to or a strong man and this goes back to caveman days right so if you were in a tribe and the girls and and the guys listen to society and to the tribe, you would survive. You would be OK.
The tribe would take care of you. Now, as a man, you can actually leave the tribe and take care of yourself.
You can survive because you're a man. You actually can you can fight.
You can hunt. You do things.
Do these things. Women cannot.
So this goes back to subconsciously. Women cannot leave the tribe and just survive on their own.
They can't, right?

A guy can leave the tribe and start his own tribe.

A girl cannot on her own.

And so subconsciously, she's always been following because they understand on a subconscious level,

they can't just do their own thing.

They can't just survive on their own.

They can't protect themselves, right?

So they always need a strong man to follow or to submit to, right?

And so it's always a strong man leaving first

and then, you know, the followers follow him, right?

Yeah, that makes sense. What's the number one mistake men do that kills their attraction instantly? Yeah.
Giving away too much interest, showing too much interest, giving away their mysteriousness and not letting the girl play into the story. Right.
And so when girls meet a guy and he tells the girl everything about him, what he does for work. So when a girl asks you, what do you do for work? It's a shit test, bro.
Everything that comes out of a girl's mouth. Here's the thing, quote from David Dita, everything in life is either test or celebration.
Okay. So if she's not celebrating you, she's testing you.
And guys don't even think, well, she asked me for work. That can't be a shit test.
It is, bro. Because if you tell her, oh, I do X, Y, Z, I'm an entrepreneur.
I do this. I do podcasting.
I work for this business. I work for this company.
Oh, cool. No girl's like, oh my God, you're so I want to suck your dick.
When does a girl, whenever you ever told a girl these things, she's like, oh my God, you're so I want to suck your dick. That doesn't happen.
She's like, okay, cool. Right? Versus I do a bunch of stuff.
I have a lot of things going on. I make money with my boys.
Right. It's like, well, so, so what do you do? I want to, I want to know.
You're going to have to see, you have to wait and see. I'll show you eventually.
Right. That's, that's part of the game.
That's playing it mysterious. That's, that's giving the girl something to, to think about and to be curious about.
Right. Right.
She wants to, she wants to, you know, figure out over time. Right.
When you give away all these things too soon, it's whatever. Right.
Of course, you do this with your with girls you don't find attractive, whatever. And just tell them whatever.
But that those little things that guys most most definitely don't think about when a girl asks, like, how old are you? Right. Or, you know, what do you do for work? Or, you know, what do you like to do for fun? These are all shit tests.
Oh, are you talking to other girls? Now, guys, we think so logically. This is why we get fucked up, right?

Because we give away our info too soon

because we think so logically.

And so naturally we're like,

oh, well, I'm not talking to anyone else.

Or, oh yeah, we're talking to other hoes, whatever.

You say that, it's going to turn it off.

So you're doing a way that is playful and mysterious, right?

So when a girl asks you,

are you talking to other girls?

Well, I always have room for one more.

So you don't know.

You could be talking to zero.

You're talking to five, right?

Always say, hey, I always have room for one more, right? The thing is could be talking to zero you're talking to five right always say hey I always have room for one more right the thing is it leaves it like okay what is this guy about how many girls is he actually talking to right and so it leaves that mysterious if you're too direct you're thinking logically as a dude um you're gonna get cooked right and so this is why a lot of like super smart entrepreneurial guys um we sometimes struggle with women because we're always thinking about numbers we're thinking about business right business, right? We're always thinking about being direct and just giving out info, right? Because it makes sense. In our world, the social media world, whatever, it makes sense.
But you try to carry that into dating relationships, that's where you're going to struggle. That's where you're going to see, actually, I could have done this better or I could have made this move on the chessboard that would have garnered me more affection, attention, and interest from the girl.
So that's what I'm always looking at is like, how can I get more out of this interaction or this question? And going back to the thing is like, every little thing that comes out of a girl's mouth is a shit test. Every single thing, even when you guys are in a relationship, if she asks you a question, it's a shit test.
You cannot take her seriously. Ever.
When the second you start answering these things seriously and taking it seriously, you start to become boring. Every single time.
Because now you're predictable. Yeah.
Would you ever go on that pop the balloon show? That'd be funny as fuck, bro. I saw that one guy.
He starts beeping with everyone. Oh, that guy.
Yeah. I want to get him on the podcast.
That'd be funny as fuck. Yeah.
That dude's hilarious. Would you do that too? I wouldn't.
My girl would. Nah, I wouldn't.
I want to see you on there though. You would crush it.
Okay. Yeah.
I'll do it. I'll get you on one of those.
Okay. Fuck it.
Let's do it. I think it's hilarious.
It's like these girls, some of their standards are wild to me. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Well, here's the thing is like, even a girl tell Robin on dates with so many girls like, uh, usually I only talk to guys who are much taller than me.
I only talk to guys who are like six foot. I only talk to guys who are super, super famous, whatever.
It's like, well, you're with me. So we're gonna have some fun.
I don't, I don't care. It's always a shit test.
It's like, if they're always gonna be,

everything that comes out of their mouth

is a test, bro.

I don't care.

Even the most,

even the top guys at the top,

they're getting tested by their girls too, bro.

Right.

It doesn't matter how,

it never ends, bro.

It never ends.

Every single guy at some level

is getting tested by some chick.

Every single time.

It doesn't matter where you're at in life,

you're always gonna be tested by some chick.

You'd be the best guy,

number one on planet

and some girl is still gonna test you.

Yup. Which is what it is, bro.
Where can people find you and get coached by you, man? Yeah. So my website, loganduong.com.
That's probably the safest place where I won't get banned. Are you banned on IG right now? Dude, I got banned on Instagram.
I lost like 200K on TikTok. YouTube shadow banned too.
The only place I'm not banned is Spotify. That's why I told you about Spotify.
My Spotify podcast kills it. I feel like you're not even saying that controversial of things.
Yeah, no. It's not even that crazy.
To us, it's not even that crazy, but to the average person, what I say is crazy. When I tell guys, yo, I have multiple girlfriends.
My girl has my name tatted on her. She does everything I want.
And she doesn't have social media. She doesn't have guy friends.
Guys are like, oh my God, that's crazy. I'm like, bro, it should be a standard for most guys.
If you can get away with it and you can do it do it right and the thing is that's the only way where a relationship is actually going to work like i only want that that's my standard now it's like i only want girls who are head over heels in love with me when i didn't know much about girls and i didn't really experience much about women i didn't get the most out of them i didn't really see it right i didn't know that a girl can actually have these things about her actually be head over heels in love with you you know everyone is always gonna if you've never smelled or seen a rose i can't really describe it right and so for most guys when you tell them these things like hey you know your girl shouldn't have these things they're like really but everyone else has it like yeah everyone else because they're a bunch of fucking losers yeah so it's like you know you tell guys these things and it's so like eye-opening to them it's like oh my god this is crazy this is a whole new world like bro this used to be natural like this is usually normal 50 you know to 100 years ago right we just lost our way we just went this completely different route the pendulum swung this complete different way to simping and feminism it used to be the complete opposite bro way opposite everything is flipped and so the things that i say now are you know normal to us but they're they're very different and crazy to other people and a a lot of people don't believe it. It's like, bro, follow my Instagram, check out, check out my stories.
See, I post testimonies all the time of myself, other people, like it's possible. And I want to show guys what's possible because if you don't see what's possible, you never seen or smelled the rose, it's going to be hard for me to explain it, but I want to show guys what's possible because most guys think, well, I see guys talking about, Oh, you have to get money to get girls.

No,

dude,

no,

you don't,

you don't believe that.

No,

not at all.

Not at all.

It's,

I was getting girls before I was rich. I was getting girls,

you know,

whenever I wanted to.

Right.

And so the thing is the only times where I didn't get girls is when I didn't

believe in myself is when I didn't believe that I was the catch when I was

not actually improving my life in any way,

in any way.

Right.

And when I was simping over chicks, right. And I was only taking one girl seriously.
I started cutting off all my other options. That's when I started to lose.
That's when I started to lose my options and my abundance and my value. Right.
And so, or when I put most importantly, a girl before my mission and purpose, when you put a girl before your mission and purpose, oh my God, bro, you're cooked. Yeah.
Cause now everyone, you lose respect from everyone. All right.
Especially when a guy, you've seen guys cut off their friends for a chick. Oh, I hate that.
Dude, they lose respect from everyone, especially the girl, the girl who wanted them to do it. It is respect from everyone.
They lose respect from the guy, friends, their family and future business partners and the girl. Everyone, everyone, bro.
Those guys always lose everyone. And because they are putting a woman before everything else.

And when you do that, you're signifying to the world that she is up here above everything else.

Above what you want and what you value, what you believe in.

And girls, they hate that shit.

Yeah, then they break up six months later and he tries to be friends with you again.

I'm like, bro, I lost respect for you.

Yeah, there's no coming back, bro.

No coming back.

Yeah.

So, yeah, thanks for having me on, bro.

Yeah, we'll link this up below.

Thanks for coming, man. That was fun.
Yeah. So, yeah.
Thanks for having me on, bro. Yeah.
We'll link this up below. Thanks for coming, man.

That was fun.

Check them out, guys.

See you next time.