The Peanut Butter Solution

Speaker 1 This is Free with Ads, the podcast that asked the question: why pay Disney plus 12 bucks a month for wholesome, family-friendly films when you could go online for free and watch a wholesome, family-friendly film with the baffling nightmare logic of a David Lynch movie?

Speaker 1 I'm Jordan Morris.

Speaker 2 And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is The Peanut Butter Solution, the 80s cable classic that sounds like it could also be the name of a jam band.

Speaker 2 You went to see what the smelliest person you ever dated.

Speaker 1 With us, as always, is the super producer, the he freak, Matt Lieb, hitting us with those flowing drops.

Speaker 2 Get out of here, let a guy do what he's got to do.

Speaker 1 Don't ask me what that's from. Don't ask me what part he says that.
One of the weirdest moments in children's television history. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A truly, truly amazing.

Speaker 1 I hadn't seen this movie, guys. It was wild.
I was not even. You haven't? No.

Speaker 1 Not even aware of it. I had heard legends of it.

Speaker 1 And boy,

Speaker 1 what a ride.

Speaker 1 But before we talk about this movie, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we're going to be talking about something else we saw for free on the internet this week.

Speaker 1 Guys, as you please,

Speaker 1 thank you. There's a sting.

Speaker 1 At some point, I'll remember that.

Speaker 1 As you guys know, my homepage, when I open up my internet, is bluegrastoday.com. I love working at bluegrastoday.com, my favorite website.

Speaker 1 And of course, I was excited to see that BluegrassToday.com had posted the 2026 Bluegrass Grammy nominees. And boy, howdy, what a treat.

Speaker 1 One of those nominees for their new album Outrun is the Steel Drivers, featuring Mike Fleming.

Speaker 1 Most famous, of course, for being mentioned on this podcast. A lot.

Speaker 1 By Emily, because it's her dad. Emily.

Speaker 1 Your dad has a Grammy, right? For being a Bluegrass musician.

Speaker 2 Yes, he does, but it was their last nomination and their only their win so far is for 2016. So this is 10 years

Speaker 2 after the fact. And

Speaker 2 I'm so stoked. This is really cool.
And they had like a couple albums come out this year.

Speaker 2 They had a gospel album come out. Or no, no, that came out like a couple years ago, actually.
Tougher than nails.

Speaker 2 But there's a couple of kind of gospel-y songs on Outrun.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I'm so excited. That means they finally are going to visit me.

Speaker 1 My family. Yeah, I was going to say

Speaker 1 it's been 10 years since Emily. I've not visited LA while you've lived here.

Speaker 2 They came and helped me move.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 But that was when I moved into the apartment that I'm in now. So that was like 2021.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a minute ago. They don't really, they're not like, they're like, I don't want to, you know.

Speaker 1 I kind of get it. LA sucks.

Speaker 2 They never visited me in New York when I lived there either.

Speaker 1 Yeah. New York sucks even more.

Speaker 1 Are you going to get to have family time? Are you going to get to take them around to the Walk of Fame and the Wax Museum? The La Brea Tar Pits?

Speaker 1 They would love the tar pits.

Speaker 1 You would love it.

Speaker 2 I don't think they're going to want to do that. I think that we're like a, we like to go out to eat.
and get cocktails and like, you know, that's kind of what we do.

Speaker 1 You can do that at the tar pits. You can do that at the tar pits well i don't know get a tall boy into the tar pits

Speaker 1 we will b y o b is

Speaker 1 bring your own dinosaur

Speaker 2 um yeah so i i know they're gonna come out here last time it was the year that i was in 2016 i was just visiting l A to figure out if I was going to move here.

Speaker 2 And so I was just here and I got a dress from a little like thrift store and went to the after party for their their record company.

Speaker 2 And I'm hoping I get to go to a before party and an after-party, but my mom takes precedent.

Speaker 2 She's like, but she didn't want to go to the before party, or she just let me have a

Speaker 2 ticket to go.

Speaker 1 Would there be someone who might be at a Grammy party who you would be like, oh my God, I would freak out. I mean, there's probably a couple of people, but does someone come to mind? P.
Diddy. P.

Speaker 1 Diddy.

Speaker 1 I would freak out because, like, shouldn't you be in jail? How did you get out? No, that was a joke. That was was a joke.
Kanye West. Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 Well, I honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is Chapel Rowan.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, stoked. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I would be stoked, and then I'd wonder.

Speaker 1 Mother, you would say. Mother.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't be too scared to talk to her, but I'd like, I don't know. I want to know what she smells like.

Speaker 1 Smells like mother.

Speaker 2 Smells like mother.

Speaker 1 Smells like mama.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would be super cool. I feel like I just listen, or Billie Eilish recently.
Isn't that so lame? I'm so old.

Speaker 1 No, those are

Speaker 1 cool.

Speaker 1 The stars of today.

Speaker 2 I will say Allison Krauss and Union Station is also nominated in this category. So for the sake of the Steel Drivers, fuck you, Allison Krauss.

Speaker 1 But they're our enemy now. They're our enemy now.

Speaker 2 But I would, I would.

Speaker 1 Are you married to Ellis Costello? Maybe. I think so.
Don't care. Is that who I'm thinking of? Who am I thinking of?

Speaker 2 Allison Krauss, she won Album of the Year with Robert Plant. They like did a like a,

Speaker 2 she's won plenty of times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's a big name.

Speaker 2 And also, the steel drivers have won, so it's not like

Speaker 2 they're losers in any stretch of the word. But I just, uh, I would love to meet Allison Krauss.
I think she's so cool.

Speaker 1 You know who I'd like to meet? Weird Al Yankovic.

Speaker 1 That would rule. Wouldn't that rule? I have met Weird Al.

Speaker 1 I'm on his Christmas card list. Oh, really? Are you on his Christmas card? Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 I was because towards the end of At Midnight, what Jordan and I were riding on at midnight, I kind of got lucky where I became his regular writer when he came to visit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 And I was his writer again for the finale. And he had me give him my mailing address and email address.

Speaker 1 Matt Brocker has this.

Speaker 2 That was my old email, my old mailing address. So I haven't gotten one again.

Speaker 1 Oh, somebody in your old apartment who's getting Christmas cards for you. We're now looking for one every year.
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 I was paying for my forwarding thing for a while. That thing that you do where it's just like getting on paper.
And I stopped paying for it.

Speaker 1 So, oh.

Speaker 1 It's like, how much is a yearly Weird Al Christmas card worth?

Speaker 2 I don't know. But I think I still get the emails.
But nicest man ever.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 I think it'll happen for you, Matt.

Speaker 1 I think it will. I don't know, guys.
You guys both met him. I've never met him.
Although, I didn't get on the Christmas card list. There's meeting him and then there's being on the,

Speaker 1 you know, well,

Speaker 1 Weird Al has a favorite of the three of us. Boo.

Speaker 1 Well, good luck to the steel drivers.

Speaker 1 We're all rooting for you. Fuck you to all those other bluegrass artists.

Speaker 2 My dad will kill me if he ever. I know that.

Speaker 1 Just kidding.

Speaker 2 I don't think he's ever listened to this podcast. I think my mom has.

Speaker 2 But I am going to ask him, and I'm going to ask y'all if you're okay with that. But I'm going to ask him if he would.

Speaker 1 maybe do a brother we're out though with us at some point. Oh, that'd be fun.
Yeah, I would love to get a real musician.

Speaker 2 That really is like the thing that brought Bluegrass, like kind of

Speaker 1 the attention of the

Speaker 1 first heard of Allison Krause.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or Emmy Lou Harris or Jillian Welch. So, yeah, it was like, I don't think people knew what Bluegrass was.

Speaker 2 It was like country music is like, you know, you just kind of think of them as the same thing. And then that movie came out, and people were like, oh, yeah.
Okay, this is, so it's a banjo.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. There's a whole other genre of country music that's not about tractors.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and there's no percussion.

Speaker 1 It's about getting baptized. Yeah.
Yep. Exactly.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, we'll see. I don't know if you'd want to do it, but I and we would have to tamper.
There'd be no fingering stories. No.
But we're sure. Unless we were talking.

Speaker 1 Fingering a banjo. Exactly.

Speaker 1 We could do it. We could stand up double bass.

Speaker 2 We could fit one in there, and then people won't.

Speaker 1 We could fit one in there. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. I'm going to play this thing.
We can fit one or two in there. Oh, my God.
There it is. Sorry.
You did it to yourself.

Speaker 1 Well, yes.

Speaker 1 Good luck to Mike and the Steel Drivers.

Speaker 1 And go check out the album.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's called Outrun.

Speaker 2 And all of their music.

Speaker 1 Please check it all out.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, time to talk about the peanut butter solution.
I'm sorry. Talk about the peanut butter solution.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry I mispronounced that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I had never seen this movie. I had known it's kind of a legendary, crazy movie that like people.
people our age grew up watching.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I never got wind of it. Emily, had you seen this movie about? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 This was one of those, we had a Tower Records in Nashville. So we had a blockbuster and everything, but blockbusters tended to have like the most current, cool stuff.
Right.

Speaker 2 And there was a rental section for movies in Tower.

Speaker 2 And so I think that Tyler.

Speaker 1 I rented Godzilla Returns constantly.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah. So I guess my parents were in music stores more than they were in, you know, video stores.

Speaker 2 So if my mom was there getting like a CD or something, she would just grab a couple of movies from there. And a lot of it was

Speaker 2 Shelly Duvall's Fairy Tale Theater.

Speaker 1 We watched that

Speaker 2 a lot, a lot. And then she saw this movie.
And I guess it was like recommended from another family. Like, you gotta show them this weird movie.
My kids loved it.

Speaker 2 But really, it just became this mythological thing that every kid was like, did your parents get you the peanut butter solution?

Speaker 2 I hate it. Like, we were all just like, it scared the shit out of us.

Speaker 1 Did you know, did it rap, did it read as crazy to you at the time? Like, I wonder if you were eight and you were watching this, if you're like, this is insane.

Speaker 2 I thought it was scary. I didn't think of it as insane.
I think that logic didn't matter, you know, as a kid to me.

Speaker 1 It didn't matter to anyone making this movie.

Speaker 2 I think you really, this movie has a logic all its own, and you just have to go with it.

Speaker 2 But it scared me a lot as a kid, especially as a very vain girl who cares about her hair a lot.

Speaker 1 And a girl who wanted pubes more than anything. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 I forgot about that part.

Speaker 2 I can't wait to get to that.

Speaker 1 I don't think you have to be particularly vain to be

Speaker 1 really fearful of the idea of waking up with absolutely no hair.

Speaker 1 And especially the way it's played in this movie, in which he has the very realistic reaction of bawling and crying on the couch. And I was just like, what is this movie? Like,

Speaker 1 they're not playing it as like a

Speaker 1 gag or anything, they played it deadly serious.

Speaker 1 And well, he played it deadly serious, and no one else did it. No one else did anything serious.

Speaker 2 That's right, it was so wild. Um, it was two totally different movies from different acting styles.

Speaker 1 Two?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Two?

Speaker 1 Try 12 or 13. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait, wait, Matt, did you seen it?

Speaker 1 No, I had no idea what this was. And the opening credits had me convinced, oh, it's a cartoon.

Speaker 1 And then when it started and it was live action, I was like pleasantly surprised that it was a live-action, you know, kids' movie. I was like, okay, I can fuck with this.

Speaker 1 And then very quickly, I realized I was in some sort of fever dream and I wanted to escape, but I felt like I was slowly drowning for anything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, a lot of kids think that this is a dream that they had, that it wasn't real.

Speaker 1 Yes, this is. And I thought that for a very long time.

Speaker 2 There's a few movies.

Speaker 1 The kid gets killed in the house, and this is what he sees

Speaker 1 before he dies.

Speaker 2 I think this is one big metaphor for what happens when a mother leaves and like everyone's lives go to shambles.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, so it starts out with a bunch of production company logos in French, and I'm like, ah, Canada.

Speaker 1 And this is, and yeah, I mean, it'll be obvious from the first time one person speaks, but yeah, yeah, you get a bunch of French up top. This is Canadian.
Starts out with Michael and his sister.

Speaker 1 They're two kids.

Speaker 1 His sister is wearing their mom's robe and talking about how mom is gone. It seems like maybe mom's dead for the first 20 minutes or so.
She is just

Speaker 1 in Australia, right? In Australia. Take care of

Speaker 1 her dad's estate.

Speaker 1 Her dad is dead. Their grandfather is dead.

Speaker 1 She has to sell the house in Australia, which you think is either code for, oh no, she died. Right.
Or this is an elaborate quash that you're never going to, that they don't do anything with.

Speaker 1 Nothing happens with that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it feels that like this is a deadbeat divorcee dad from the get-go, but it's like, is taking your mom went to go sell a house in Australia the human female version of sending a dog

Speaker 1 to live upstate.

Speaker 1 Yo, mom's on a a farm. On a farm.

Speaker 1 If you've seen my neighbor Totaro recently,

Speaker 1 they don't have a mom in the house, but it's just like she's resting. And then at the end, she comes back, like basically exactly like this mom comes back and just goes, hi, guys.

Speaker 1 And then the credits roll. Like, mom has one line.

Speaker 2 This is like the, who was the guy in Anaconda who was just asleep for the whole movie?

Speaker 1 Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, this is like a reverse sixth sense where, you know, mom is alive the entire time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because it was like they're so depressed that she's gone, like all of them have lost their fucking minds. Little boy is not talking and not eating.

Speaker 2 The little girl looks like she's become the mom.

Speaker 1 Like, she acts like she's wearing mom's clothes.

Speaker 2 I don't think she goes to school the entire movie.

Speaker 1 I don't know what she's at one point. She's on a computer, it looks like she's filing taxes.

Speaker 1 I know what is going on in this movie. So, yeah, so she's show the you know, the sisters kind of playing mom.
Dad is just hanging out in the attic looking disheveled.

Speaker 1 We learn later that he's a painter and he's working up there. But for the first couple scenes, you just think he's squatting in his own house.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 he's like a barbarian of his own house or something. He's just like in a secret room.
He's the kid's prisoner. Yeah.
What he's doing is he's an artist and he's painting up there.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we see some shots of dad looking just like a disheveled transient.

Speaker 2 He's from Babylon 5, by the way.

Speaker 1 Oh, is he? Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 I didn't recognize anybody from this game.

Speaker 2 He's Colonel Ty or something from Babylon 5.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's been in a ton of stuff, but I did not recognize him. He's one of those guys who I guess has just been old his whole life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He definitely seems a little Steve Martin-y in that way, just always about

Speaker 1 55. I was weirded out about how much of a good actor I thought he was the entire movie.
I don't know if that's just a me thing, but I was just like, this guy's great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he, this movie is so, it's so strange. And I mean, I think, you know, I mentioned David Lynch in the opening.
Something this movie also really reminded me of is Tim Robinson's stuff.

Speaker 1 It's like, I think you should leave.

Speaker 1 And obviously, that stuff is very David Lynch inspired, right? It's the crazy comedy version of David Lynch, but like

Speaker 1 the way they use like non-actors in this is so strange.

Speaker 1 Like the guy who owns the paintbrush store just like haunts me you know yes it's all these just like local weirdos who seem like they've never acted before it it's the the world of this movie is totally insane and once yeah you kind of realize that this isn't just like a disney movie it you can just kind of let the nightmare envelop you but yeah uh anyway um So their friend Connie comes over.

Speaker 1 Connie is a cool kid with a leather jacket and a fedora. Now, there's a lot of bad headwear in this movie.
I think anytime a fedora appears, that is the worst hat.

Speaker 1 The worst hat.

Speaker 2 I'm going to argue with you here. I think that.

Speaker 1 I like the fedora.

Speaker 2 I like it better.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Emily, he played the stage.

Speaker 1 He's trigger happy. He's getting too excited.
I was sorry. I just knew there was another hat.
I have an itchy stinger finger hat. Do you have a hat you liked less? The wait.

Speaker 1 The 90s. Matthew.
I can't help it. What is your middle name? Lawrence.

Speaker 2 Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1 It's beautiful. It's a beautiful name.

Speaker 2 Matthew Lawrence is your name?

Speaker 1 Lawrence Leeb. Get down here.
And my brother,

Speaker 1 Joey Lawrence Leeb.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Whoa.

Speaker 2 The wigs.

Speaker 2 The wigs are...

Speaker 2 They're insane. Like, the big long wig, it's supposed to look crazy, but, like, the minute we see the kid in the beginning, that's a wig.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 and then every other thing it's just like it kid has to wear so many wigs it looks

Speaker 1 so many wigs that middler at a Vegas residency just so many wigs constant wig changes largest fucking green room ever yeah covered in wigs it's Snoop's drag race just like

Speaker 1 I contend that the fedora is worse but we can agree to disagree on that all right

Speaker 1 Connie wears a fedora and he loves grapes he's always eaten the family's grapes. You know how every neighborhood had that kid that ate your grapes?

Speaker 1 Well, then you have Urkel who's got any cheese.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Urkel loved cheese and Connie loves grapes.

Speaker 1 Connie walked so that Urkel could run towards cheese. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the kids are obsessed with a spooky old house in their neighborhood. And apparently the old house caught fire.

Speaker 1 And the kids know that there were, and this is their words, a wino

Speaker 1 lived there,

Speaker 1 and they like it's where the why

Speaker 1 is sleeping all winter. These kids just know where the local why

Speaker 1 is at all times. It's so weird.
It's so strange.

Speaker 1 That eight-year-old is obsessed with the neighborhood why not.

Speaker 1 I was watching it going, maybe they don't know what that word means, or maybe. Yeah, maybe they heard their parents say it.
Yeah, or maybe in Canada, wino means something else.

Speaker 1 But then they later show the first time I met that wino, he was begging outside of a bank. I was like, no, they know what it means.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. Do they keep track of where they are?

Speaker 1 That's where the winos are.

Speaker 1 Where the wino things are.

Speaker 1 Where the wino things are. Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, Jordan, I've never seen you laugh so hard in my life.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 For some reason. He's speaking into whinos.

Speaker 1 Oh boy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so another just, I have to, I mean, we can't sit here all night just talking about the weird things that happen second to second in this movie. But I know.

Speaker 1 There's this thing that happens where Connie.

Speaker 1 He's walking on the street and he's like, there's aunts. And there's everyone's so Canadian.
There's aunts. And they're talking about aunts.
And then the little boy, Michael, I think is the main boy.

Speaker 1 He's like, there's no aunts. He's like, there is aunts.
And one of them sees ants and one doesn't. And it just moves on and it never comes back.
What the fuck is that supposed to be?

Speaker 1 Dude, there's so many moments.

Speaker 1 There's so many moments in this where I just think, like, did they have a contractual obligation to hit 90 minutes? Because there's a scene at one point where, like, he's like, can I call mom? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like right at the moment. I think when he gets his hair growing back finally or something.
And rather than cut to the next scene, he goes, what's Australia's country code? Oh, it's one, one,

Speaker 1 two, three. What exactly? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then they

Speaker 1 didn't need that. And

Speaker 1 it's so strange.

Speaker 2 I was honestly curious about it, and I was kind of glad he asked for some reason.

Speaker 1 I just, I don't know. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 They kept things in in this movie to it, like the effect it had was making you think that it was sort of somehow either not so much grounded in reality, but in a way sort of artistic, almost like a fly-on-the-wall type film.

Speaker 2 The other thing that it's not very David Lynchian is because they explained all of the dream logic. Every single thing.
And they would just say it as if it was well known.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, if you close your eyes you can't hear a ghost right and you're like what like see and you'll and yes and you'll go into the painting and you'll transfer the fright yes we'll transfer the fright yeah that stuff is so there's a lot of exposition like dumps that happen that are mostly useless and and totally sometimes they have a good use but very rarely There's aunts here.

Speaker 1 There's no aunts. There are aunts.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 This is when it started to feel insane. Well, every time anything like that happened, I said, it's okay.
It's French-Canadian. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I mean, this movie is like, I know Google Translate was not around, but it seems like this was written in French. Yep.
And then Google translated nine different times, and that's the script they used.

Speaker 1 It's so weird.

Speaker 2 That might be true.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 they go to school where they have an evil painting teacher who hates imagination.

Speaker 1 He wants them to draw his dog. He's got a dog.
Okay, and all the teachers in this talk like the animaniac psychiatrist.

Speaker 1 They're like, no, draw the dog, draw the dog's beautiful muscles. Look at the dog's musculature.
Draw the dogs. That is not the dog.
That is a pig. You must draw the dog's muscles.

Speaker 1 The guy is so fucking horny for his dog that he's making these kids draw. Well,

Speaker 1 if you notice. He'll discuss their paintings if they're not good enough.

Speaker 2 um so i did watch a little documentary about this movie oh okay i need to watch one um so i guess that you know the guy who created um i think it's tales for everyone is like this series of films that yeah this is part of some sort of like twilight zone for kids anthology and

Speaker 2 yes something well it it's so weird i don't know but it's um the guy who wrote this

Speaker 2 he like told he made up stories for his kids so this is literally literally a bedtime story he made up for his kids yeah this real stream of consciousness feels like it yeah totally but that family it comes from like a line of italian artists

Speaker 2 and so

Speaker 2 exactly so um and then there's like a thing in the movie where everyone who has that accent is somehow related to each other

Speaker 2 We find out towards the end. So it's like the accents, I was like, why do, why does the doctor have an accent? And then this guy has an accent, and then an art dealer or somebody who's buying art.

Speaker 1 Brothers, apparently.

Speaker 2 Yes, which what the fuck was that about? Anyway, so yes, that's supposed to be a like a tip of the hat to the family lineage, supposedly.

Speaker 2 So there's like Easter eggs in here that only one family would fucking know.

Speaker 1 I hate that there's lore. I fucking hate that there's lore.
I know. I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 So dad is, so dad's at home. He's working on a painting.
The dad apparently sells his paintings for $6,000. It's like that fucking thing in

Speaker 1 Pride and Prejudice where everyone just knows how much Mr. Darcy makes.
They're like, dad sells his paintings for $6,000. And then an art dealer comes like, I'll give you $6,000 for them.

Speaker 1 And it's a painting of like the kids playing tennis. And dad's got this wacko cartoon art style, which does seem like it would, he would be a famous painter in the 80s.

Speaker 1 It's like Keith Herring or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, all of the art is like by one artist.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that makes sense.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, and the guy who created Tales for Everyone owns that painting.

Speaker 1 Okay. Which is cool.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it does kind of have like a cartoony, weird, and it's really, they're really big, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he makes these giant psychotic looking paintings.

Speaker 1 So while the dad is turning down $6,000 for this painting of tennis, the kids go to the haunted house, and Michael climbs up in the window through this like weird chute, and he sees something, and he screams, and his hair stands on end.

Speaker 1 Uh, and then it, and then it all falls out later. But he passes out.
Connie brings him home in a wheelbarrow, a shopping cart. Sorry, a shopping cart.

Speaker 1 He's unconscious, and they don't take him to a hospital. They just put a cloth on his head and a thermometer in his mouth.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Yes, that is sad.

Speaker 1 Dad does not give a shit. I've never seen seen a dad so not worried.
He spends most of this movie when he's not painting very strange paintings.

Speaker 1 He is telling his son, who is clearly going through hell, don't worry about it. Everything will be fine.
He says that most of them. Yeah, and the son is kidnapped for two weeks.
Yeah, the son is gone.

Speaker 1 Who knows what's happening to his fucking eight-year-old son? The dad doesn't care.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 2 could you imagine this mom just being oblivious? Like, I mean,

Speaker 2 I've never left my kids' home alone with my husband before, but

Speaker 2 how bad could it possibly be?

Speaker 1 Fucking nice surfing instructor.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 they take him to a doctor who is, we learn, is the brother of the fucking evil painting teacher. It doesn't, nothing, it doesn't matter.
But he also talks like this. He's like, you have zerem scarum.

Speaker 1 You have zeharum scarum, where you get scared and your hair falls out.

Speaker 1 Um, and the kid's like, he's loony, which is like a little kid insult, but I think in Canada, like, it's like calling someone a cunt. It's like, ass dad.

Speaker 1 You're a loony.

Speaker 1 You're a loony, eh? Wait, sorry to say it, but you're a loony.

Speaker 2 Jordan, wait, you guys are your cat dads. Yes.
How did you feel about them being angry? Because they blame his hair falling out on the family cat, like sleeping on his head, which is all I ever want.

Speaker 2 I want a cat to sleep on my head. And they like throw the cat.
I hate that cat. Like the dad was like, I hate that cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have no reason to hate that cat. And

Speaker 1 worried about it.

Speaker 1 Again, this was like, this is a French thing. Like,

Speaker 1 just in the same way that, like, if you ask an Italian about cats, they'll be like, don't leave a cat alone in a room with a baby. It'll suck the breath right out of them.

Speaker 1 It's like that maybe they have some weird thing, you know, in French can in Montreal where they're like, oh, you know, cats are always stealing the hair off of your child's head or something.

Speaker 1 I was like, okay, fine. Canadian witch legend.
It took me far too long to just decide, okay, this movie exists in a completely insane reality, and I just have to accept it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. Also, like, I would think that if French people were an animal, it would be a cat.
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 it's weird.

Speaker 2 I want a Frenchman to sleep on my head.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want a Frenchman to make biscuits on my tummy.

Speaker 1 Those Frenchmen, they always whine for food even though you just fed them.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 I need more wine. Give me more wine, mama.

Speaker 1 Mama,

Speaker 1 it is 6.30 a.m., but I need you to pour more wine in my bowl.

Speaker 1 There's already wine in there.

Speaker 1 Anyway.

Speaker 1 So they glue a wig. They glue a wig to his head, and he goes to the soccer game because he thinks it's fine.
But the a mean kid at the soccer game pulls off the wig and they like run around

Speaker 2 like this is insane

Speaker 1 all the kids run around like taunting him and they have a bald chant ready that they all know it's like baldy balding has no hair don't call your mom she doesn't care baldy balding like why do you know why do you why were you practicing a bald chant and how do you know about his situation with his mother it's insane uh yeah so they they chase him around doing this bald chant.

Speaker 2 They'll be great protesters later in life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Sure, sure.
Yeah. Yeah, if we can just channel that, that hatred of the bald into something good.
You know, Black Lives Matter or something.

Speaker 2 I have a lot of anxiety at the, you know, I went to the No Kings protests, and I'm the person that will keep going, even though people have stopped the chanting.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, that's good. That's a good thing to be.

Speaker 2 But then I'm by myself, and then I just, um, oh, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 but you just want to make fun of bald people right yeah

Speaker 1 baldy baldy two by four can't get through the ocean door

Speaker 1 health care for all unless you're both

Speaker 1 like it's like i i get i bet kids were probably meaner in the 80s but like in the if in a non-cartoon world that kid probably has leukemia right exactly exactly wouldn't you immediately assume oh no

Speaker 1 uh he's he's he's dying like the idea that everyone just immediately bursts into laughter. And the fact that when he wakes up with no hair, his dad could not give less of a fuck.

Speaker 1 It's like all of this. I'm like, is he dying of cancer? Because he went into a burning, it was a house that had just burnt down and killed the winos.
Killed the winos. The winos burned to death, dude.

Speaker 1 The winos burned.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, maybe, but no, that's not how cancer works. You don't get bald from the cancer

Speaker 1 from the body.

Speaker 2 Also, that there is that condition condition that, like, alopecia.

Speaker 1 Alopecia. Yeah, yeah.
I was like, maybe this is a movie about that. At this point, I was like, okay, so it's, I guess, a movie about alopecia and about kind of like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 This is the prequel to Powder.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I was like, what is this movie about? At this point, I am still not fully given up on the idea that it's about something.
Sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel so bad for you guys.

Speaker 1 That's a good way to go insane.

Speaker 1 So he's. so okay so then the the the ghost of the

Speaker 1 the ghost of the wino talking about it makes me feel i want to punch myself so the ghost of the

Speaker 1 the ghost of the wino and the winos

Speaker 1 who each

Speaker 1 have not turned about

Speaker 1 so red

Speaker 1 so the ghost of the wino comes to him. I can't even describe the movie.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 and says that if you want to get your hair back, there's a recipe. You have to have really ripe bananas and flies.

Speaker 2 Wait, he's got a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 He does have a girlfriend. Yeah, that means it's a wino and his girlfriend.
Yes, who is sometimes very nice and sometimes very mean. And they're ghosts.
They admit that they're ghosts. Yes.

Speaker 2 And they both died in the fire together, which is kind of like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 kind of beautiful kind of romantic it's kind of like the notebook in many ways yeah they had their own little row whino and juliet you see sure yeah to be clear the reason that this ghost is doing this is because at the very beginning of the movie he saw the wino in front of the bank and he gave him every dollar he had which was a few cents in his pocket oh that's right okay so there is it does it there's there was a logic somehow at this point there was a logic and i was like okay there's something going on in this movie but then the ghosts are stealing all their groceries yeah like I don't know what because they're still there's still winos even in the afterlife

Speaker 1 the afterlife is bleak for these people

Speaker 1 drunk on wine

Speaker 1 they were stealing cereal they like weren't even taking the wine well it's to sell it so they could buy more wine yeah I mean they were just stripping the copper piping off the side of the house our VCR is gone the ghosts stole it sorry the winos you know the winos are bird and death.

Speaker 1 Ghost gods. Okay, so they give him this recipe.
He puts it, and I guess the recipe includes peanut butter. This is where we get the title, the Skippy butter.

Speaker 2 Paid, or no, they, yeah, Skippy paid to have their peanut butter stole.

Speaker 1 To have their logo removed from the film.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 This is a big deal movie, honestly. Apparently, it was like, it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 I'll remember it always. And I will probably think, yeah, I'll see Skippy.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I could rub that on my head.

Speaker 1 I'll remember it always in the same way I'll always remember putting down my dog. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was horrible. Never getting out of this mind.

Speaker 2 This will be the thing you guys think of before you die. I have a feeling.
Like, this will be that you're like, oh man, I'm going to have to steal cereal. And like.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'll find a kid to haunt, a bald kid.

Speaker 1 I'm on my deathbed

Speaker 1 thinking about my wonderful

Speaker 1 beautiful child. And right before I die, I'm going going to be like, Did he need to give Australia his country code before the cuts?

Speaker 1 And then I'll die. And why did we, why did the kids' pubes stop growing?

Speaker 2 Why did they? Because he yelled at them?

Speaker 1 What? Yeah. I don't know.
You just got to yell at those pube. Well, so yeah, we're

Speaker 1 to the pubes. We've been teasing the pubes.
Yep. So the kid, Michael, he rubs the gunk on his hair.
It starts his hair growing like crazy.

Speaker 1 But then Connie is like, I want to have some down there. And we see him take the mixture into the bathroom, and we kind of know he's going to rub it on his pubes.
He says as much.

Speaker 1 He does. He says,

Speaker 1 well, so, you know, the kid, the main character, goes, what do you need it for? You already have hair. And he goes, no, but.

Speaker 1 And then there's a pause and he goes, down there.

Speaker 1 And then let a boy do. Did you get pubes? No.

Speaker 1 Yes. I was incredibly excited.
Okay, you were excited.

Speaker 2 I was not. No.

Speaker 1 I remember when I got

Speaker 1 my first one, I was so excited.

Speaker 2 You got one at a time?

Speaker 1 One at a time.

Speaker 1 Now I'm up to 15.

Speaker 2 I feel like mine came in the way that my chin hairs are coming in. It's like the fuzz is slowly turning a different color.

Speaker 1 Man, that fuzz sure is getting thick.

Speaker 2 Listen, I had to,

Speaker 2 I got my makeup done not too long ago, and this lady just goes, you know, they have those little comb razors. And I was like, what? And she goes, you could probably.

Speaker 2 Because I guess my peach budge is getting a little thick.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Getting a little wily.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 So the kids, his hair is just growing. He goes to school, and just every time they shoot him, he's in a longer wig.

Speaker 1 The amount of wigs, and this is so crazy. The kids are like playing with his hair at school, and it's like distracting everyone.

Speaker 1 And then Connie's pubes are growing out of his pants. Yes.
We can see his pubes coming out through his pant legs. Yeah.
Child.

Speaker 2 And they like have a mind of their own.

Speaker 1 They're like, you know, I don't know, like arms almost. It's really wild.

Speaker 1 Also, there's a scene that you're talking about right here where his hair keeps growing at school in which he

Speaker 1 explains.

Speaker 1 exactly what's going on with the past maybe 30 minutes of the movie, which I feel like would have been so nice if the movie had started right here.

Speaker 1 It's the scene in which he's about to be kicked out of class and he demands an education. I just, I played that.
I got that clip and I just want to play it for everyone.

Speaker 3 For two weeks now, I've been bald.

Speaker 3 We did everything to get my hair back. Nothing worked.

Speaker 3 At last, I tried this extremely dangerous mixture.

Speaker 1 At last.

Speaker 1 At last. At last.
I love Atlas. It's like he's writing an essay.

Speaker 1 This is just someone's really tortured log line. Yeah.
Mixture.

Speaker 3 It worked, but now my hair won't stop. My only chance is for this guy to keep on cutting.

Speaker 3 Please let me stay. I want to be educated.

Speaker 1 Not just Harry.

Speaker 1 This guy?

Speaker 1 This guy is his friend Connie, who's been with us the entire movie. This guy to keep on cutting.

Speaker 1 He's in the class. You can say his name.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like he's your haircutting servant.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? He's the second lead.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Honestly, he feels like the first lead in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 1 way more interesting.

Speaker 1 Connie's the hero. Connie like saves the day.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fedora or no, he is a hero.

Speaker 1 So he like runs out of class

Speaker 1 in the wind. It's really windy and the hair, like the wind is blowing his crazy long wig.
He lays down on the ground and has a dream about dogs attacking him.

Speaker 1 And then we see a figure loom over him,

Speaker 1 and then we get the spinning newspaper talking about how kids in the neighborhood are being kidnapped.

Speaker 1 Um, and then we see dad going insane, and this is the only time the dad seems to react emotionally to what's happening. The dad's like going insane, painting bald kids in his studio.

Speaker 1 So, So I guess the dad has this long dark night of the soul, and then it's just fine with it.

Speaker 2 I would have liked it if he had the big painting in the police station.

Speaker 1 He's like, this is the kid.

Speaker 2 But imagine him with hair now.

Speaker 1 Hair. But hair that just keeps growing and stuff.
He's painting the hair on top of the painting. Unless this guy's cutting it.

Speaker 1 So Connie and Connie and the sister don't care about finding Michael, but they want to cheer up dad.

Speaker 1 So they go to an art store to buy him a new paintbrush and there's this special paintbrush that costs $20

Speaker 1 and the guy in the paintbrush store is this insane non-actor I guess. I think he's the tallest person in the movie.
Oh

Speaker 1 tallest guy. And says he doesn't know the name of who's been delivering the paintbrushes but they do it in a red truck.

Speaker 2 So does he just give them the paintbrushes? Like, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 Please take my paintbrushes.

Speaker 1 How do you run your business, sir? Yeah, of course. Got to get voices for this.
It's a cash business.

Speaker 1 I pay cash for the paintbrushes.

Speaker 2 Also, it's probably the worst paintbrush I've ever seen. Like, it is so floppy and weird and unwieldy, but it does look soft.
It looks like it's really a French tickler kind of thing.

Speaker 1 Sure, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, it looks like it would be.

Speaker 2 French-Canadian tickler.

Speaker 1 French-Canadian tickler. Thank you very much for crazy.

Speaker 1 They have to tickle in both languages.

Speaker 1 And so, okay, so they find this red van. Connie gets in and leaves a sugar trail.
And then the sister, because it's a movie in the 80s, kids got to jump on their bike and go do some bike racing.

Speaker 1 So she races

Speaker 1 after the van, and this fucking awesome song starts playing. Matt, can we play a little bit of this song? And it's the first music cue that's been in the whole movie.

Speaker 1 It's about a magic man. Yeah.
And the rocky

Speaker 1 singer to this song, Selene Dion. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This movie has something in common with Titanic.

Speaker 1 And both that they're too long. Her first time.
Yes, they're too long.

Speaker 2 But I think this is her first soundtrack

Speaker 2 that she's done for a movie.

Speaker 1 And she is a famous French-Canadian singer.

Speaker 2 But at this point, she was still pretty new and she was still learning English.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's very much doing her Kate Bush thing here,

Speaker 1 which is like,

Speaker 1 it's really good. And, you know,

Speaker 1 hearing this song in this movie, there was a little bit of like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, a Stranger Things type. Like,

Speaker 1 it's possible that Stranger Things is seen, that the Dover brothers have seen this movie and were

Speaker 1 kind of, just because the voice that she was doing is very Kate Bushy and, you know, the age of the kids and whatnot.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it is one part of this movie where I like for a second, I felt like I wasn't having a stroke. And I was like, okay, good.
A music montage, just like normal.

Speaker 1 We're all having a normal day now.

Speaker 1 Thank God. I needed it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, real normal day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Follow the sugar trail.
So we're about to get to the third act of this movie, which is crazier than anything that's happened in the movie so far. We're going to talk about it when we come back.

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We're talking about the peanut butter solution. Okay.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait, say that again peanut peanut butter.

Speaker 1 The peanut butter solution?

Speaker 2 Say peanut butter. Peanut butter.

Speaker 1 Say peanut. Peanut butter solution.

Speaker 1 No, Jordan, say peanut again. Peanut? Peanut.

Speaker 2 Am I saying it weird? You said peanut.

Speaker 1 Peanut.

Speaker 1 I don't have time to say peanut. I got to say peanut.
Yeah. Maybe it's just, you know, like an OC thing, you know.
Okay.

Speaker 2 A peanut butter solution.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the bass player for 311. Peanut.

Speaker 1 My favorite bass player. Wow.

Speaker 2 My dad is a bass player. How dare you?

Speaker 1 He's listening. Your dad's wonderful.
He's nice. You should look at the grannies, but he's no peanut.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 No, your dad beats a peanut any day, any day of the week.

Speaker 2 Oh, God, don't say beats and peanuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he'd be right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So glad he doesn't listen to this podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 So, okay.

Speaker 1 Here's what happened. The art teacher, the evil art teacher, who was fired,

Speaker 1 kidnapped Michael, has him in a stasis chamber of some sort where he's being, he's in a coma because of magical ice cream.

Speaker 2 Yogurt, it's yogurt.

Speaker 1 Yogurt, excuse me.

Speaker 2 This is Canada. They don't have like good stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone has yogurt for dessert. Yeah, but a lot of people eat Yoplays in this, I noticed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yopla, eh? Yoplay?

Speaker 2 Oh, speaking of Yopla, do you guys remember Yoplay whips and Yoplai custard?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do. Sure, those in the freezer.
You're having a good time.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Do they still have those?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I haven't checked.

Speaker 2 I'm going to, I need... The Yoplay Whips was like just the craziest invention ever, and the custard was so decadent.
I don't know why. I just got really hungry.
Sorry, you guys.

Speaker 1 Delicious.

Speaker 2 No, that's not. This movie makes me feel stoned, and I'm not.

Speaker 1 It puts me into a hair coma.

Speaker 2 So you can shit your pants and grow your hair.

Speaker 1 Shit your pants, grow your hair, so that he has an army of kidnapped children in karate outfits

Speaker 1 using Michael's hair to make magic paintbrushes.

Speaker 1 And he uses the paintbrush to paint these like kind of semi-animated paintings.

Speaker 1 Now, here's why I think this is a good movie about AI.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 we have Michael's dad who is doing these weird, imperfect paintings. That's right.
But they are from the heart. They are.
Using his imagination. Using his imagination.

Speaker 1 We have a teacher that hates imagination. He just wants efficiency.
He just wants profit.

Speaker 1 So I think this movie predicted AI.

Speaker 1 What is this? A dang documentary? Oh,

Speaker 1 idiocracy is a documentary. Yeah.
Have you guys seen this black mirror? Oh, my God. I watched those, and I'm like, is this a dang documentary? I haven't heard about it.
What is it?

Speaker 1 I think it's a dang documentary. Oh, my God.
It's more like, you know, a mirror into my life.

Speaker 1 Yep. Anyway,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 Connie

Speaker 1 Connie tricks the art teacher by saying, you're my dad,

Speaker 1 which the art teacher wants to hear. So he

Speaker 1 paint, does this little jig for the kids and paints the haunted house where Michael got scared. He's like, paint the fright.
Paint Michael's fright.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 art teacher goes into the magic painting, and then he gets the fright

Speaker 1 and comes out. And now his hair grows, but also that wasn't what made it.
No, his hair falls out. His hair falls out.
He falls out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then he looks like, what's his face from Breaking Bad?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks a little Walter Whitey

Speaker 1 when he

Speaker 1 gets the fright.

Speaker 1 I am the one who knocks and then steals your hair i am the one who's the magic painter

Speaker 1 the one who knocks

Speaker 1 i am the one who knocks

Speaker 1 ding dong

Speaker 1 um anyway so breaking bad that's a good show yeah

Speaker 1 anyway

Speaker 1 god what's so then michael goes into the painting he faces his fear the thing that scared him was the winos

Speaker 1 so he faces his fear. And then

Speaker 1 the bald guy, he's bald now, chases them around

Speaker 1 for a long time.

Speaker 1 They does chase him a long time. This is very scary.
I could see if you were a kid watching this. Yes.
Like dark, weird, molester-coated guy chasing you around a factory where he has you enslaved.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, at least Miss Hannigan put some lipstick on or something, you know? Like, doll herself up.

Speaker 1 I mean, any other story where you have a crazy molester guy chasing after children, you at least have, I don't know, some sort of narrative that you could like cling to where you could go, oh, this person's chasing me for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 In this case, be like, okay, I have to start from the beginning. So there were these winos

Speaker 1 who died in a fire. Yeah.
And this guy, his name is Senor, and he paints. And long story short, my hair kept growing and he's harvesting it.

Speaker 1 Can you save me? Like,

Speaker 1 none none of this makes any sense. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got to tell you, as somebody who runs a small business by myself, the fact that he needed so many kids to just put hair into a stick

Speaker 2 makes me go, I could kidnap some kids. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I could do, like, this would be very helpful.

Speaker 2 I just need someone to stuff envelopes.

Speaker 1 Like, honestly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. While you sleep in a hammock.
They all sleep in hammocks.

Speaker 2 They all sleep in hammocks. Did you guys do that as kids ever? Did you try to sleep in a hammock?

Speaker 1 No, I never have. I would like to.
I love sitting in a hammock. We never had two trees close together.

Speaker 1 Which I thought was a prerequisite. They were either too close or too far apart.
Yeah, I was like, well, this doesn't work.

Speaker 2 We had, like, well, the thing is, my neighborhood kids, it was like a constant prank that if someone was in a hammock, you would run and flip the hammock over so they'd fall.

Speaker 1 Good prank.

Speaker 2 Out of the hammock, so you could, you couldn't sleep in a hammock.

Speaker 2 I'd be too anxious.

Speaker 1 Well, now I'm glad I'd never slept in a hammock.

Speaker 1 So all the adults rush in at the end. Dad's doing like karate chop hands.

Speaker 1 And then they arrest the guy, and then mom randomly comes back in

Speaker 1 a taxi. And that's another Celine Dion song plays, and that's the end of the movie.
I have that Celine Dion song too. Let's hear a little bit of it.
Let's hear a little bit of it before we go there.

Speaker 1 Children are like boats in the sea, Boston Torre. They travel on,

Speaker 1 ride of the waves,

Speaker 1 That's just

Speaker 2 so haunting and sad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially like in the background, before the credits are rolling, it's just

Speaker 1 an external shot of their house. And that house to me creeps me.
Everything about this movie is fucking creepy.

Speaker 1 Everything about this movie is unsettling, uncanny valley, and like set me on edge throughout.

Speaker 2 I'm really worried about the Wino ghost.

Speaker 1 I think maybe this was their unfinished business. Maybe they got the guy caught and they can kind of move on to the next.

Speaker 2 So they set this whole thing in motion. They scared the kid in order for the hair to grow and then for the guy to like kidnap them.

Speaker 1 And Signore burned the house down with them in it?

Speaker 1 Oh, I guess we never know who burned the house down. Maybe it was Signore.

Speaker 2 You guys.

Speaker 1 That makes the movie make a little bit of sense.

Speaker 1 Some sense. Like a tiny little movie.
All I want is some.

Speaker 2 Now, this is very David Lynchian because that means that Senore is Bob.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's the peanut butter solution. Peanuts.

Speaker 2 What is peanuts?

Speaker 1 He's doing a little.

Speaker 2 He's doing this on purpose to piss me off.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm not. That's how I say peanut butter.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing a bit. I'm not goofing.

Speaker 2 Just peanut.

Speaker 1 Peanut.

Speaker 1 Peanut butter. Peanut butter.

Speaker 1 Peanut butter. Anyway.

Speaker 1 Hey, we're going to rank the movie, but first, you know, we got to do the honk watch. Oh,

Speaker 1 it's honk watch. I feel like I know where this is going, but just as a formality, I'll ask everybody.
Emily, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 Okay, so yes, the dad is cute, but I watched

Speaker 2 that little documentary, and it showed like the kids all grown up and Michael pretty hot grown up.

Speaker 2 He had his hair.

Speaker 2 He had it like slicked back in a ponytail and it was like, okay, he's got a lot of hair. And he was cute.
So I think adult Michael is doing it for me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Matt, any thoughts?

Speaker 1 I honestly was not, it's like I now have to think about it in retrospect because throughout the movie, there was no point where I said, I'm watching this for free with ads and I need to get it.

Speaker 2 Are you a little senior freak? Come on.

Speaker 1 And now it's like if I have to, because I don't want to give it to Senor because I don't like him. I think he's bad.
He's clearly bad man.

Speaker 1 I guess I'm giving it to

Speaker 1 Dr. Epstein.

Speaker 2 His name is Dr. Epstein.

Speaker 1 His name is Dr. Epstein.
Did you guys not notice?

Speaker 1 Jake Boy, she has

Speaker 1 Dr. Epstein.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to give it to him. Just release his files.

Speaker 1 Just release the files.

Speaker 1 I do not know why you want to see my files so bad. You just traveled to Patchy Island periodically.
Dr. Epstein didn't kill himself.

Speaker 2 I got it. The harem scarum thing reminds me of a.
I think we need a new sting eventually, but it's a Fleming joke and like family joke.

Speaker 2 Because we have a lot of them. But my mom was talking about she had a friend who dyed her hair red and it was like bad.
It was really bad. And her and her other friends called her Harlot Oscara.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's

Speaker 1 a fun, that's fun.

Speaker 1 Whamming joke, yeah,

Speaker 1 also kind of a sick bird in a way. Yeah, it is.
Um, Jordan, who is yours? Yeah, I'm gonna give it to the dad.

Speaker 1 I kind of thought that's where we were going, but apparently, uh, everybody had some different hunks, and that's great. We like a variety of hunks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think dad's great, wonderful sweaters, uh, a nice Canadian man, and I think they really like decorated the house in this.

Speaker 1 Yes, you could tell it's like the house of an artsy parent because they clearly have taste, but it's a fucking mess. Yes.
And I kind of like that about like kind of lifey artist adults.

Speaker 1 They have these like, all this cool stuff, but it's like such a wreck. So yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, if you could see my apartment right now, it would look insane. But like, I had friends who had parents like this, and I just like being like, this is so cool.
And it always smelt like hair.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, and also that little cot that he had up in his artist attic loft thing had

Speaker 2 lived there, but he had the most beautiful sheets and blanket. It was like a Pendleton blanket type thing.
It was like really cool.

Speaker 2 So I think that's it's going to go in my bedroom list as a favorite bedroom.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Is the artist loft up there because I've always dreamed of having an artist loft.

Speaker 2 Which, God, I'm going to move so soon, you guys, it's going to happen. I swear to God.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for it. Get that loft.
Get that loft.

Speaker 1 Get that parent visit. Get mom to come help you move to a loft.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 well yeah, let's rank the peanut butter solution when we come back.

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Speaker 1 the peanut butter solution. One to ten, how do you rank this? I have I genuinely don't know.

Speaker 1 It's the most difficult one we've ever done.

Speaker 1 Emily, as the one who's seen this the most,

Speaker 1 what do you think?

Speaker 2 I feel like it needs its own score system.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know. Like, how many one to ten pubes?

Speaker 1 Long child pubes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Did we mention that that kid just yelled at the hair and it stopped? But that we couldn't get the

Speaker 2 friend. You you got to yell with conviction at your hair.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 I feel like it should have its own scoring somewhere. But

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm glad I watched it again. It's fun to rewatch and remember how horrifying it is.
I'm glad this movie exists.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give it a five.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, very reasonable. Matt, what do you think?

Speaker 1 Gosh. Not only does it need a new scoring set.
I mean, I truly am like,

Speaker 1 it's in some aspects a 10 and in some aspects a 1. Yes.

Speaker 1 And also, I think it doesn't deserve a number.

Speaker 1 Also, is it a movie? Right. I don't even know.
Yeah. It might not be.
What if there's a wash?

Speaker 2 There's like a scoring system that it can't be a 10. It can't be a 0.
It is just a peanut butter solution.

Speaker 1 It's like the alpha and the omega. It's like it's everything and nothing at the same time.
It's a wonderful, a wonderful.

Speaker 1 A zen.

Speaker 1 I think I will give this like a bad movie seven. I think it's really fun to watch.
I think for this flavor, if this is something you're into, the like kind of wacko

Speaker 1 like the wacko fever dream kids movie Teen Witch is still the goat. Yes.

Speaker 1 I think that you can't, you know, if you're having like bad movie night and you want to do something like this, teen witch much more fun to watch but this is its own kooky little thing so it's its own genre it is so yeah if you're like a you know if you're like a bad movie head if you're a sicko for this stuff i i think you should watch this um yeah i don't know if a kid would actually like it yeah i think they'd be scared of kids liked it but it's like yeah maybe you can't stuck around you can't like turn your brain off but you should like

Speaker 2 it's like for your own safety you should find a way but you can't. You overthink the whole movie.
It's a little bit stressful and exhausting.

Speaker 1 All right. That's the peanut butter solution.
We solved it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any anybody, anything? Emily?

Speaker 2 I'm going to say Phlem Jim's holiday is coming up very soon.

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That would be awesome. Everybody, go listen to them.

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Speaker 1 Matt, you got anything?

Speaker 1 You know, because I feel like

Speaker 1 I'm going to get back into therapy for no reason in particular,

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Speaker 2 Did this movie put you back into therapy?

Speaker 1 Honestly, after this movie, I was just like, I think I need to talk with someone about this.

Speaker 1 What's my life? Yeah.

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