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This is a head gum podcast.

Welcome to Get Anime, the anime watch-along podcast with the hosts of Get Played.

I'm self-proclaimed char horse statue, Heather Ann Campbell.

I'm self-proclaimed walking shark, Nick Weiger.

And I'm self-proclaimed Matt the podcaster, Matt Apodaga.

Hello, everyone.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere anime podcast where we're doing that fun thing we do.

We're going to watch an anime, and we're going to provide live commentary right here as you watch it with us.

That's right.

This is a true watch-along.

And also, you know, you don't have to use this as a commentary track.

You hopefully this will stand as a piece of audio in its own right.

I mean,

it will.

No, it will.

Absolutely will.

People will just be able to listen to this.

I do think

in this day and age where you can listen to recorded media, sure,

it is baffling to me that, like,

DVD commentaries are just non-existent now.

I'm surprised that there is not an app that is like a podcasting app, like, you know, any of these fucking podcasting apps dedicated to

film commentary either by stars or directors or tertiary comedy podcasts.

Yeah.

You know, that you can't like, oh, I'm going to watch Armageddon.

I want to watch it with the original Ben Affleck

behind the scenes stuff.

Yes.

Or I'm going to listen to the How Did This Get Made track.

Or I'm going to listen to, oh, there's like a guy who worked exclusively on

practical effects on this movie.

He talks his way through it.

Because you can find sites that archive what the tracks are.

Yeah.

But like, yeah, it would be nice if there was a storehouse of what, not just descriptions of and which ones were worthwhile and ratings of them, but like, hey, here's how you can actually listen to all of these.

That would be nice.

Or even just as an alt audio licensing is impossible.

I'm like Netflix.

I think that is the thing.

Yeah.

It's just like a logistical nightmare.

But I do, I used to love,

you know, DVD commentaries were like some of the first podcasts I would like listen to.

I would just like to kind of the original podcast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Have you?

I got to do one once.

Really?

Yeah.

And it sucked.

I hated doing it, and I never want to do it again.

Well, we're going to do it right now.

All right.

We also pulled our self-proclaimed from some other anime because we have not watched this in advance.

That anime is what we've been weaving.

What we've been weaving.

Hi, it's me, Ash Ketchum from the world of Pokemon.

And I'm here to ask you the question of the week.

What you've been weaving,

Nick Weiger, I choose you.

Thanks so much, Ash.

I said anime, but actually I've been weaving a manga.

I read the Junji Ito manga, Gyo,

which I would characterize as the complete opposite of the movie we're about to watch.

This is a movie where sea life begins walking on the ground,

and it leads to basically the complete destruction of society.

There is a

mechanical side to this that gets explored as the premise, you know, know, continues on.

But so much of it is it starts where fish are walking, and then like larger sea creatures start walking, and then that leads to more things, you know, becoming

like a

kind of like in this zombified state walking on these mechanical rigs.

But the big issue is that the everything just smells like death and just the death stench is permeating everywhere.

Here's what I like about Junji Ito, besides like just the absolute grotesque imagery, which he is just the best at depicting.

There was a manga panel I sent to the group chat from this that was just an absolute nightmare to look at.

And it's not even the worst thing in the book.

I'm just going to stop you right there for a second.

That was one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.

I hated looking at him.

But he, I mean, you're about to say what you like about him.

One of the things I like about him is that this motherfucker's crazy.

Yeah,

it's sick shit.

But I think the other thing is like,

despite the grotesque, because it's nasty, but it's also like funny.

It's both those things at once.

What a funny market that guy has cornered.

Yes.

Like, it's like, he is a brand name for making fucking awful shit.

Well,

you look at this manga, and I honestly wonder if...

There's elements that are commonalities with like the human centipede.

And I would not be shocked if like a body horror, you know, a person, like,

someone who's crafting like something like the human centipede had like drawn on Juji Ito as a source because it is like, it's the same sort of shit.

Anyway, the other thing is like his works don't really follow a traditional narrative.

They almost have more of an anthology or even like a sketch feel.

And it does make you think in terms of like, and this is like an improv principle, but you know, it's very much

explored this way in this horror manga.

If this, then what?

And like, if this is true, then what else is true?

If fish start walking on land, do they spell horrible, then what else does that lead to?

And this is just a sequence of that.

Like, each, each chapter in this manga is just like another consequence of,

you know, these dominoes that are falling from the inciting incident.

And it has just an incredibly bleak ending, which is just like, this is the thing.

I think just a lot of times it's just like, hey, sometimes there's a disaster.

And we just live in the aftermath and that just becomes normalized.

And then we just live in this awful new world.

And you know what?

That is very pertinent to now.

That feels super contemporary.

That is like feels like our experience.

It was like, hey, some new horrible thing is happening.

And you know what?

Now that's just going to happen all the time.

And no one's going to do anything about it.

That's just a thing we're just going to get used to and become numb to.

Yeah.

This, this new thing you just heard about, it's really bad.

And it's also too late.

It's also too late.

It's just going to keep happening.

But anyway, there is a film adaptation of this manga that I have to track down because I have no idea how you'd make this into a movie because it is insane.

And I like, even, even like,

not even, I don't even mean realizing it visually.

I just mean like structuring it.

Like, I don't know how you adapt this without fundamentally changing its nature.

And maybe that's what it does.

And maybe that's from what I've read that the movie's not great.

Maybe that's part of the reason.

But it's a really, really cool graphic novel, really, really cool manga.

I'm glad I finally read it.

Gio.

Heather, what you've been weaving over there?

I've read Gio.

I love it.

I'm really happy that you read it.

I have a small Jinji Ito section on my manga bookshelf.

Me as well.

It's nice seeing him there because it always reminds you that there's worse things.

So I guess speaking of bookshelves, what I've webed this week is a purchase.

And it's been a while since I bought myself something

like a figurine,

a model kit, whatever.

I've taken, I've been trying really hard.

To my goal has been to have my trash can half empty every week

when I roll it out onto the street.

So I'm trying to purchase less and less.

Oh, that's an interesting approach.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I've some might think of it as half full.

Right, sure.

But I've largely succeeded.

Like I've, I've had like a

two bag,

like in a, in a, in a household with me and my wife, like a two bag garbage rolled out on the street.

Largely from being conscious of buying fewer things.

Yes.

Buying fewer things, buying fewer packages.

Right.

You know, going and getting a soup in a glass jar and bringing it back to the grocery store.

Love doing that.

Yeah.

But I did make a purchase.

And for this, for this setup here, I want to know if you guys are familiar with the viral video, Look at That Horse.

Oh, yeah, I've seen Look at that horse.

I don't think I know look at that horse.

I think we should watch it.

Yeah, let's throw it up there.

Can you Google a video for us, Branch?

Can you Google

probably on YouTube?

Look at that horse.

There it is.

The home shopping network.

There's one on the top.

Oh, we don't want to watch the Tosh.0 one.

Other than that.

18 years ago.

And we'll print it out.

Now, while we're doing that, let me show you something really impressive.

That picture, remember the picture of the horse I showed you earlier?

Well, here it is blown up.

You fucking idiot.

Order now.

You get the camera, you get the printer.

4X optical zoom.

Snyder Lens.

Photo printer.

SD card.

Look at that horse.

Why won't he just say that it's wrong?

The hooves.

Okay, my producer, Tara Cates, just told me this isn't a horse.

It's a butterfly.

Actually, it may in fact be a moth.

But look at what the Zoom did.

I mean, you can see details in the middle.

Oh, my God.

Really good.

So

to ask a question that probably nobody knows knows the answer to, did he think that was a horse for real or what happened?

It's an incomprehensible clip.

That's what makes it funny.

The longer, the more times you watch it, the less you can understand what is happening because he gestures.

Like when he's like, look at this horse, you imagine him behind the image.

Yes.

But then he starts pointing.

to parts of a butterfly and saying, look at the hooves,

the beautiful mane, and he's pointing to a butterfly.

And then somebody tells him that it's not a horse.

And he kind of sounds like he doesn't believe it.

Yeah.

He's like, my producer's telling me this is a butterfly.

Also,

I feel like I have to point this out.

This is the hardest ranch has laughed at anything we've ever done on the show.

Well, in the

so now look at that horse has become a Beyoncé thing

because she says, look at that horse

in

a song in Cowboy Carter.

Oh, well, interesting.

She's the episode.

The original 18 years ago clip on YouTube.

Look at that horse.

A Schneider lens.

Look at that horse.

So, in honor of that, and in honor of bookshelves, we were talking about earlier, I bought something from my bookshelf,

which is a colossal,

ostentatious

sculpture

of my friend, Char Asnable.

Wow.

Riding a horse.

Wow.

Look at that horse.

Look at that horse.

At that horse.

It is an enormous sculpture, which I did get permission from my wife to purchase.

Yeah, you have to.

How big are we talking?

Chest-sized.

Wow.

So it's like as big as your Godzilla?

It is.

It is a huge fucking horse.

That was cool there.

But yeah,

I purchased this because I showed it to my wife and I went, look at this horse.

She didn't know what I was doing.

And she went, oh, that's kind of cool.

Because we have like a rustic look on our book in our library area.

And she's like, do you think we should have that in the library?

And I was like,

I do,

but I didn't think you would.

And she's like, I think you should get that char sculpture.

That's nice.

That's really, really good.

So I have this enormous char on a horse.

Great looking sculpture.

I'm looking at the scale here between Char and the horse.

And it is.

Here's what I'm going to say.

I don't think horses are scary,

but I can see how somebody might think they're scary because they're fucking massive.

They're so fucking big.

Huge.

But also, Char is a little guy.

Is he a little guy?

He is canonically a little guy.

Okay.

And this horse is so big that I I think Char's shoulder would be below the back of the horse if he was standing.

Because it's a big horse.

It's a big fucking horse.

But horses in general, you know, I guess I'm a little guy myself.

Horses are pretty big.

They're too big.

I don't like big because they could kill you with a single kick.

Oh, yeah.

And they're scary as shit.

I've seen, you know, all of the Char media that exists.

I cannot recall him riding a horse,

which is also part of why this is incredible.

Yeah, that rocks.

He, the thing is, the horse looks real.

The horse is photorealistic.

Yeah, it's a really impressive horse.

Char is there.

Yeah, it's a horse that evokes like the Michelangelo horses or the Da Vinci horses.

Like it's a veiny, muscular, like writhing, sweating,

salivating horse.

A vascular, turgid, pumping horse.

And then Char is also realistically sculpted.

Like there's folds in his fabric.

His glove is delicately pulling on the reins of the horse.

He is expressionless as always, but it is Char.

He's got like a

cartoon man's head.

Either way, really cool.

A guy like this rides up on a horse to you.

You know you're already fucking dead.

Yeah, yeah, you're already in.

There's nothing you can do.

You're in trouble.

And so that's also why when he doesn't do anything, you're confused and a little bit hypnotized.

What is this guy's plan?

What does he want?

That's the essence of Char Asnabel.

I'm glad you have that.

Yeah, that's rad.

That's rad.

I'm going to put it right.

I have the actual helmet.

Like a human scale helmet.

Wait, you guys didn't know this?

I wear it to work.

I wear it to work.

You wear this clothes this before, but I wear it.

I have the replica char helmet, which can fit on your head.

How have you not been on the news?

Local women seen wearing giant helmet.

Yeah, no, I've worn it to work.

It's fun to wear.

As

like an accent, as like a part of your wardrobe, or like as a bicycle helmet?

No, I don't want to ride a bike in that helmet.

I'll die.

You can barely see out of it.

Wow.

No, it's like I bring it, I put it on when I'm stuck.

Got it.

To

be fun,

to be like, ah, maybe, maybe I'll put on the char helmet and think better.

Break things up, think three times faster.

I can see myself doing like the exact same thing and people being like, don't do that.

What are you doing?

It's helpful when the helmet is

not anything.

Like if you put on a Vader helmet, people are like, yeah.

But the char helmet is not.

It's a fucking chewbacca

mask.

The char helmet, nobody knows what it is, really.

So it's just like, what is that what is she doing it's possible it's an heirloom yeah

but i'm i think i'm gonna put the horse next to the helmet i think you should do the show in the helmet sometime

okay

yeah no problem tell you what i want to see this horse in person love to take a look at this horse oh okay yeah well i don't know if i'll care i mean maybe no you don't need to bring it in but i'm just saying like wherever over at your place again i'll take a look at that horse look nick nick's promising to take a look to look at one thing in your home

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you guys should come over and play 32x which is my transition to

Sonic the Hedgehog the movie.

Wow.

This is 1996.

Sonic the Hedgehog.

This is an OVA that was released in 1996.

It was a two-part OVA in Japan that was re-edited into a short, self-contained movie for American release.

The runtime is about 53 minutes.

I just had a full existential crisis in that moment of quiet

because I realized when I said you guys should come over and play 32X, that that is a question I have been asking people since I was a child and nobody ever has.

I would happily do that anytime.

I'd love to come play 32X.

Anyway, sounds like a hoop.

Yeah.

You have two controllers?

Yeah, I've got two controllers.

And the Sonic game for 32X, Knuckles Chaotix, is two people on screen at the same time with a rubberband style effect between them, and you have to cooperate to get through the levels.

Baffling.

That sounds crazy.

It's weird.

Sounds chaotic.

It is chaotics.

It was a tough problem to solve.

I mean, because

they'd do the split screen, but on that CRT, you'd have so little real estate to work with.

And was it Sonic 2 where you'd get super squished your proportions?

I don't remember what it was.

Yeah, it just didn't really look like that.

So Knuckles Chaotix makes it you can't move away from your

partner.

But there were a lot of, you know, there are a number of games that did that.

And it works a little bit better if it's like top-down or isometric.

When it's a side-scroll, it's a little clunky.

All right, let's watch this OVA.

So I will say this was apparently positively received and very commercially successful in the home video market in the U.S.

Because kids were like Sonic and parents are like, all right, I will buy the Sonic movie that this kid can re-watch, you know, 20 times.

It was also the first Sonic property in North America to not feature Jaleel White in the title role.

Oh, it's the first non-Jalil Sonic.

Unfortunately, a harbinger of things to come.

So I assume we're watching the dub then.

I'm almost positive this is the dubbed version that's going to be tough.

We are going to count down.

I have never seen this before has anyone seen this i have not okay we're going to count down from three to one and begin this ova here we go three

two

one

go

i should have said sega

Great talkie corporation logo and sting there.

That's great.

That is wonderful.

Didn't know they'd branched out into chips.

Talkie corporation.

Corporation is such a great word to have before a movie.

It's one of my favorite words.

All right, so we've got some shots of monitors here.

We've got some just sort of like, you know, this is not the highest quality transfer.

Oh, looks like it's Metal Sonic.

Metal Sonic, yeah.

Metal Sonic is a part of this.

So far.

Metal Sonic is from Sega CD.

He isn't Mecha Sonic.

That is a different character.

Metal Sonic has has the turbo intake on his chest,

and you raced against him to save Sally.

He's also not Sonic's metal dad, Jules.

He has a robot dad.

Yeah, Robotnik is now, we're hearing his VO talking about, as we're seeing his silhouette, his hyper metal Sonic.

So far, this is going to be deployed.

This is great.

This is really, really good.

This is astonishing sonic the hedgehog staying

also

the music pretty evocative of actual sonic music yeah this is great we got a little little saxophone lick here

okay some uh

yeah i don't know this character by on sight this is some sort of owl who is piloting a single-person aircraft above the clouds.

Well, there's like, like

a fork in the road in Sonic Canon in the games, even because the Sega CD game became sort of non-it was like canonic-esque.

And like Big the Cat, all those characters are on the like main timeline.

Sonic is enjoying a little vacay.

Tails has a hoverboard, it looks like Sonic looks very cool with his sunglasses.

Fucking Sonic.

He's got a soda there.

Sonic looks awesome.

He's so fucking cool.

He's got those big ass, like when back when the

regular Sunnys were just like what you would wear on the ski slopes.

Yeah.

Very 90s look.

They knew he snapped on his character design, honestly.

They really did.

Sonic rocks.

I really like Sonic before the Dreamcast redesign.

That, like, the retro look of Sonic

without the like long spikes.

I appreciate that.

Look how much fun Tails is having.

Well, there have been some also the

one continuous eyeball is a thing, right?

Like at a certain point, they cleave them into two distinct eyeballs, but I do like the one big eyeball.

Yeah.

With two pupils.

Disgusting.

Well, when you think about what you're actually seeing, yeah, it's disgusting.

This is a character science.

On the original version of our show said, it probably stinks.

And it's something to think about so much.

A lot of the characters in this...

Like,

Sonic is a good character.

Tails is a very good character.

I kind of think this guy sucks based on how he looks.

Owl?

Yeah.

Owl.

Yeah.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop owl?

Where did that come come from, by the way?

Where owls are like so intelligent

and collegiate.

I don't know.

They look like it.

They look like they're up to something.

I gotta say, I'm extremely disappointed in the tone shift from that hard as fuck ice cold cold open.

I'm excited because it's gonna, that means it's gonna

something's it's gonna go down.

Yeah, well, this is like Saturday morning cartoon, like Tom Foolery.

Tails is flying after the

aircraft with the owl that is

on fire.

But I'm still just kicking it.

I'm about to be in my Sebastian Maniscalco bag real quick.

Why is the owl flying a fucking airplane?

You can fly.

Right.

And where's all that smoke coming from?

My mom's lasagna.

Why is an owl that already has giant eyes wearing glasses to make his eyes big?

Yeah.

And why are none of these characters wearing clothes?

All right.

He's wearing shoes.

Shover up.

So Sonic's running.

That small bit of animation there is from the Sega CD opening.

That first shot, they just lifted, which is pretty nice.

Same with this.

Wow.

Those are pulled from the Sega CD intro.

So Sonic.

Sonic is running along the sides of a canyon, and then he casually rescued both Tails and the Owl.

I wonder if this company that made this is the company that did the full animation for the front of Sonic CD.

We could try to find out.

Do you think it's a coincidence that these flowers look like Sonic?

What the hell?

Someone drew the background independently.

Ah, fuck.

Ah, shit.

Man,

90s dubbed anime is so insane.

How do you mean?

It's just like people being like, whoa, what are you talking about?

I don't know what you're talking about.

You got to be careful over there.

I'm not going to be careful.

Like, it's just like,

it's not, it's not like people emoting.

It's just.

I see.

It's very weird.

Just talking to fill the space.

Yeah, I wonder if there was a little bit in the dubbing process of too much adherence to like, well, we got to get lip flap right.

Like, that's the most important part.

I'm not saying that.

And, like, the spirit of the performance, the original performance, which maybe a lot of times they didn't even have as source.

You know, like, I don't know how much isolation these voiceover artists were working in trying to dub these things.

What I like about the look of this is that it looks like the games, whereas the Saturday morning show did not look like the games at all.

Like, this has the aesthetic, like the checkerboard print aesthetic of

a Sonic game.

Sonic's like, okay, you crashed your plane here.

I'm going to get in my plane and leave and leave your asshole.

Cocky asshole that he's just standing on top of the plane.

Yeah, I'm not going to fall.

Don't worry about me.

He's like arms crossed on top of a plane.

He's kind of the coolest guy that's ever lived.

They are flying to floating islands, the world of Pandora,

which has now been colonized.

God, yeah, look at it.

And has beautiful

retro futuristic buildings and the White House.

Yeah, it's like a nice U.S.

Capitol just sitting pretty.

Sonic's like, I gotta go talk to the president.

Oh, I guess Robotnik, Dr.

Robotnik is the president?

Oh my god.

There's fucking, oh my, like, metal guys that were shooting at them, and they made quick work of them, of course.

You know what I'll say about this OVA?

Like Sonic himself, it's got to go fast.

It is just moving.

Like, we're just like, you know what?

Sonic Tails and Robotnik, they're all together.

They're all in the same room.

No, who gives a shit?

People piece together.

He's so...

I love Dr.

Robotnik.

He's such a funny character.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's great.

So

this OVA was done by Piero is a Japanese animation studio.

Apparently, the animation from Sonic CD was done by a different studio,

a lesser-known studio that is called Studio Junio.

So.

But maybe they were drawing from the same source.

It looked like it was just literally pulled from it like they traced

maybe they traced it

they might have just you know if you have like

a moment where sonic is like wagging his finger and you want to put it in the movie why not just have it look exactly like that yeah

okay so they gotta go to robotropolis

So Robotnik has a city and then there's somebody else who's attacking it and it's different robots.

So, is Robotnik going to be on Sonic's side in this movie?

It's possible.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I don't think so, because we saw him designing

Metal Sonic in the beginning.

So, all this is lies.

It's lies, and it could be as a way to kind of like do a frame-up sort of job or put him into a conflict with Metal Sonic.

Yeah, maybe he's going to make Metal Sonic do something bad and be like, that was the real Sonic after.

Yeah.

Always a fun device.

Like, the baby Bowser, you know, in disguise as Mario gets him arrested in mario sunshine or that evil kermit from muppets most wanted oh right i like that robotnink was describing his plan and everybody including robots fell asleep

savage

there is a human woman in this room and nobody else looks like a human being no

For a second, I thought you meant ranch.

I was like, what a weird thing to say.

No, there's like a human.

Yeah, I know, I get it.

Yeah, she looks in the show.

And then, like, Robotnik is a circle.

And this other guy looks like he's from

Rescue Rangers.

Yeah, he does.

He looks like

an anthropomorphic animal of some sort.

I guess she does have.

No, those aren't ears.

That's a big bow.

She's like a sort of like proto

Aerith.

Yeah.

Yeah, very much.

Very Aerith coated.

Okay, so apparently

I'm just, I'm trying not to be in the, you know, be in the weeds too much here, looking this up, but apparently they may have drawn on

art by Hizashi Eguchi, who is an illustrator and an animator who,

I guess, conceived a lot of the animation that was used in Sonic CD.

Even if he wasn't at the studio that actually did it.

He may have storyboarded out or drawn some keyframes or whatever.

I didn't hear what the mission is, but they're on the mission.

Yeah, whatever.

It's fine.

We get it.

Sonic's casually standing on top of Tails' biplane.

I mean, I don't want to spoil this or anything, but Sonic's going to win, right?

Yeah, I think so.

He's also not going to fall face forward into that propeller blade, which

laws of physics maybe suggest he might do.

We have a fake fighting game within this.

It's like a training sim, perhaps?

Yeah.

Robotnik is fighting.

Oh, I see.

They're playing against the fighting.

Robotnik is playing.

He's playing against Aerith

in this.

There's a Sega controller on the ground.

I like that.

Yeah, they're using, they were playing on a Sega console,

a game where their characters look eerily like themselves.

And that's continuing.

And Robotnik is just dominating.

I like that it did cut back to Sonic on the plane, and he looked bored.

It's just a long flight.

It's a holographic game.

See, that's it.

That's what it is.

It shines the characters into the circle in the middle, which was a Sega technology from the 90s.

What the hell was that game called?

Not Time Crisis.

Time Something.

Time Warrior.

Yeah.

The Time Machine thing, right?

Travel one.

Yeah, I saw that recently.

I can't remember what it's called.

They have one at Barcade in Highland Park.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

Time to make a trek.

I love

the Barcades, R.I.P.

Button Mash, of course.

That closed?

It closed.

It closed, came back after COVID, and now they officially closed it.

Oh, it closed again.

Because I knew it came back.

I didn't know it closed again.

The Highland Park Barcade has some very strange cuts.

Yes.

Which is what makes it a good barcade.

It's not just, oh, it's the Simpsons and Ninja Turtles and Street Fighter.

They've got shit that's like...

What, like, what is this game?

At one point, they had Moonwalker.

Yes, but they also have-I mean, this is similar to that too, they have the X-Men arcade game on one long screen, which rocks.

That's cool.

The

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Sonic and Tails have flown to a distant land, crashed Tails' plane, and now they have to make their way.

Oh, the land of darkness is what it's called.

No disrespect to the

voice actors.

Sonic doesn't sound like this.

What do you think Sonic sounds like?

He sounds cooler than this to me.

He's kind of like a punk brat more here, I think, a little bit.

He's like Bart Simpson, kind of.

Yeah, he's a little bit cool kid as opposed to like cool dude.

Yeah.

Or bad boy, I guess I should say.

Now they're just running on screen.

They're doing a level.

I love this.

This rocks.

They're just running.

They were just doing side-scrolling platforming, jumping over spikes.

Just Sonic and Tails.

That was awesome.

I haven't spent a ton of time with Tails.

They just did up

jump on one of those spring things.

But I got to say, I think I love Tails.

Yeah, Tails is great.

This sequence is awesome.

They're just animating what your imagination thinks a sonic level looks and feels like, which in the 90s was probably really fun for a kid.

Yeah, if I was like nine watching this in 1996, I'd be like, this is the fucking best movie I've ever seen.

I mean, I'm thinking it right now.

This, to me, I think is

the benefit, one of the benefits that

people who identify as Sonic kids get to have because Mario fans didn't really have anything as good as even that is

for a long time.

We had like the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, which was not at all on this level.

I think that this movie came out before Sonic and Knuckles because Sonic also, when he's really sped up is using the sega cd animation of like the infinity symbol for his legs

which is taken out permanently after sonic and knuckles wow

so i think that this was being

made at the same time and if knuckles was

out

if people knew about knuckles he'd be in the movie he'd be in this right i like that these backgrounds are the last of us yeah

just these these buildings with overgrown plant life.

Yeah.

Sonic and Tales went to New York and it's post-apocalypse.

Yeah.

What if the live-action Sonic movies were this?

And it's just like, what the hell?

This is crazy.

You know what this whole, this whole sequence is?

It's the part, because we already referenced Avatar.

It's the part in Avatar Way of Water when they're just like swimming.

And you're watching this for 20 minutes like they're just swimming around.

Like, all right, yeah, sure, why not?

I mean,

I love that.

There's a fight that James Cameron got in with, I think, the studio or Fox or the public, whoever, whoever it is that he gets notes from, because they were like, you have to take out the flying sequence.

Yeah.

And he was like, no.

And they were like, but what?

It doesn't do anything for the plot.

And he's like, it's the pleasure of flight.

It stays in the movie.

Because they've introduced metal robotnik here.

Oh,

this is what that's a really cool character design.

This is the problem with when you start doing metal characters, of course, you try to make a metal version of the hero.

There's going to be a metal version of the villain as well.

Yeah, it's a ratchet effect.

Yeah,

I love that, though.

I love his big round body.

I love his huge shoulders.

I get his big gun.

Yeah,

he's got like a

chain gun in his right arm.

Sonic just said, we don't have time to mess around with some robot.

That's all you do.

What else you got going on?

Sitting on the beach with a soda?

Come on.

I guess if that's you were pulled away from that, I'd be wanting to get back to that too.

I wish I knew why they were in New York.

I really missed it.

Yeah.

Oh my god.

Holy shit.

Oh, he's got bat wings.

Metal Robotnik has jet-propelled flesh batwings.

Yeah.

Those are organic matter.

Love that.

They fly now?

They fly now.

Man,

I saw a TikTok that was like,

you realize that

every single Star Wars piece of media that has come out since Rise of Skywalker is only being used to explain how Palpatine returned.

It is the plot of

The Mandalorian.

It's the plot of Ahsoka.

It is the plot of everything that Star Wars has put out is basically to be like, make this make sense.

It's a plot of The Mandalorian?

I guess I didn't follow The Mandalorian, really.

Yeah, because they're using baby Yoda Blood to like make...

Oh, that's what that is?

Yeah.

Oh, man, I did not piece it together.

You pointed out the Infinity symbol when he's running.

I'm sad that that's gone.

Yeah, I really like how that looks.

It looks cool.

Yeah.

This was a really cool chase sequence.

They were running and they ran to the literal end of the road.

And his feet were hot.

Looking into the barrel of the gun.

They can't swim because of the game.

Metal Robotnik just shot a gun point blank into the faces of animal children.

Yeah.

But they're okay still.

that's a good good point though matt like them just sort of saying like hey you i know you can't swim because in the games you fall into water you you die yeah it's another thing i think the kids would appreciate i'm telling you this is really hard he can't swim yeah i can't i know he can't see it's like in the game i'll tell you when i saw Sonic 2 in the theater by myself with all the dads and their children, the post-credits tease where they tease

Shadow,

I, along with all the other children in the theater, gassed.

What was the Super Mario Bros.

movie tease?

Was it Yoshi?

A Yoshi egg, yeah.

It's all right, I guess.

Yeah, Shadow.

I wanted Wario.

Oh, man.

Imagine Wario.

Yeah.

Wario is going to be the next one.

I mean, if they make enough of them, Wario will be in one.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit, it's Knuckles.

But he only appeared for like.

I'm so excited

to see Zuckerberg Knuckles.

He's wearing his cowboy hat.

Was that like a wizard-style teaser that like

Knuckles might be in future games?

This was Boba Fett in the Star Wars Christmas special.

So Tails is lacquered with goo to a Chainlink fence.

I'd hate to be lacquered with goo.

Yeah, I don't want to be stuck with goo to anything.

Sonic is trying to free him.

This is Sonic's experience is the first time you fight a boss in one of these games, and you're like, I don't know what the fuck it is that I used to do.

I was chilling a second ago.

Now I got to fight.

That's such a good

way to stop them because obviously speed is their number one thing.

How do you stop something that's so fast?

You make them stuck.

Knuckles to the rescue.

Can Knuckles fly knuckles is in

yeah he can kind of fly huh he just knuckles just pulled tails from the xenomorph wall where he was going to be phasing

oh

like he can't like fly fly but like the way he jumps is like you know has a little bit different physics a little bit momentum yeah oh god i didn't realize that's what happened to sonic that he's glued to the ground underneath the water yes while it's rising that's horrible.

What a horrible way to die.

I think they should bring his Knuckles hat back.

He doesn't really wear the hat.

I think he wears it in the show, in the live-action show, which I still haven't seen.

Um,

I should do that before the new movie comes out so I can be caught up on what's going on with those guys.

The hat is red, and this is also from the era when they, like Tether's point, they haven't really established what Knuckles is yet, so they're kind of like, I don't know, he wears a hat, I guess.

I don't fucking know.

He's like poochy, kind of.

Yeah.

I think this is my favorite thing we've ever watched.

This is really good.

Rochelle, are you following along how

you liken the Sonic the Hedgehog OVA so far?

This is my first Sonic the Hedgehog content of any sort.

That's why I'm designed?

Yeah.

This is not a good introduction to Sonic.

I think it's a pretty good introduction to Sonic.

It's pretty good, yeah.

Gives you the shorthand of who everyone is.

That's wild.

I'm surprised.

I would have thought you would have watched a cartoon or seen one of the movies or shirts.

I just like missed everything.

Yeah, yeah.

Ranch, after this is over, we have something to show you, actually.

It's the theme song to an incredible Sonic cartoon.

Oh, my God.

Have we not done Sonic Underground, the theme song with you in the room?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, so you have to be able to get the song.

That wasn't

Sonic ever.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

First ever piece of Sonic media.

That's a good introduction.

Yeah.

Who is this lady in the mini skirt?

She was in earlier.

No, I know, but who is she?

I don't know exactly what her status is.

There's probably some dialogue we were talking over.

That she's like

why Amy Rose exists.

It's because Sonic wanted to fuck a hot girl.

Yeah.

And they were like, we got to make a headshot version of this.

Dude, they were drawing her, and they're like, wait, instead of drawing some hot girl, why don't we draw a hot girl that like Sonic wants to fuck?

I guess I could look at the plot summary of this.

Why would you read ahead?

No, I'm just to try to find out who the woman is.

Okay.

That's the president's daughter.

That's Robotnik's daughter?

No.

Robotnik has taken the president,

who is the big guy, the big buffoon-looking guy, and his daughter, Sarah, prisoner.

And so that's Robotnik's

charge right now.

This OVA got one thing right in how they depict the president of the United States.

Thank you.

All right, now it looks like we're approaching Casino Night Zone or something like it, some sort of

future city.

Maybe this is more of a chemical plant zone.

I don't know exactly where we are.

Like, Knuckles just hovers in this.

It's very weird.

Yeah, I don't know that he does that.

I gave it a little bit of leeway, but like, it's, yeah, they're

the longer it like.

Sonic still has to, like, hold Tail's hand, but Knuckles just hovers like a god.

So they're going to Robotnik City, it looks like.

It's kind of like the

Biff future of Back to the Future Part 2.

There's a huge Dr.

Robotnik

Robotropolis.

Robotro Tropolis.

That's where we are.

Yeah, Robotropolis.

I think about that casino level in Sonic 2 because I never played it before until we had done it on the show.

And I still think that it's maybe the single greatest level of any video game I ever played.

It's really good.

You know what?

I will say that there is a Astrobot, which we have talked about in the main feed.

Yes.

Is

has a casino level that I think is really well done.

Yes, absolutely.

And super fun.

And it has that same sort of feeling of like

just controlled chaos.

I like how much of this movie is side-scrolling animation of them doing level stuff.

Right.

So it looks like the core of Robotropolis that they were looking to destroy also has a robotnic face on it, which is fun.

This like bad guy that like puts his name and face all over his stuff.

Yeah.

Who could consider that?

Yeah, what does that remind me of?

Doesn't ring a bell.

The truth is, until you said that, it had never occurred to me.

Never, ever had it occurred to me that that is something we have been programmed since we were children to associate with evil.

That is fucking ridiculous.

Wow, the whole city grid has been shut down.

Now, this is one of those things where, like, I get that you're trying to take down Robotnik, but also this could be a humanitarian crisis.

Yeah, absolutely.

Maybe while the civilians were just suddenly deprived of power in a society

dependent on electricity, take down the whole fucking power grid.

Hospitals are offline.

Yeah, that is a real, that's an absolute disaster.

And now gravity seems to not work.

Knuckles just.

Knuckles just saved Sonic.

It was very,

it was a great scene for the shippers.

Yeah, really good.

They've destroyed Robotnik's main machine, killed the power grid, and now it looks like Akira is being summoned.

Yeah, this is the birth of a god.

Except in the middle, it's Metal sonic.

Very mew?

Yeah, you're right.

Very mew, yeah.

More mew.

Mewtwo, mewtwood.

Yeah, coming out of just a

pulsing womb that was at the core of this

power plant.

There he is, face to face with Sonic.

Thanks, Tails.

He looks fucking awesome.

Tails said he does look awesome.

Tails just said it's a robot that looks exactly like Sonic.

Somebody watching this, what am I looking at here?

Well, you know what?

I think this is the sort of thing.

It seems silly, but in its defense, I understand if you're making something for children.

Yeah.

That's the kind of thing that you underline because also it makes the kid feel smart.

So like, I know it is.

Absolutely.

I mean, hey, I feel like a goddamn genius.

I'm way ahead of you, Tails.

These are ghosts.

Like, we are also seeing souls sort of

coming, like, like being summoned by.

And Tails refers to them as ghosts.

Yeah.

Is it possible that, just based on the way Knuckles was standing with his hat on his, his head on his hand, or his hand on his hat, is it possible that he's the hardest motherfucker that's ever lived?

He's just like not scared.

Robot ghosts is an interesting concept.

I heard about ghosts in the show, but this is ridiculous.

The whole time that all of this action is happening, Metal Sonic is just staring at Sonic from like an inch away.

Now we're getting some fan service with the.

She has a tail?

She has a tail.

So she is a little bit of some sort of an animal character.

Sort of like a Goku?

Goku has a tail.

Yeah, I don't know.

I guess so.

I guess some sort of like primate creature.

Wait a minute.

Robotnik was teamed up with the daughter of the president operating Metal Robotnik.

He's, yeah, he's like using her to his own ends.

I assume in the same way they were playing the video game together, now they're like mutually operating

Metal Robotnik.

You know,

Sonic's fast.

He could be faster in this, I think.

Hyper Metal Sonic fucking rules.

Yeah, he's awesome.

I can't say it enough.

It's so cool.

It looks so different than everything else on screen.

It's really, really cool.

This movie's good.

This is like absolutely, this is fantastic.

And I don't know if it's just that

Sonic is good and we like Sonic, but like this is good.

There's a lot of Sonic stuff we could watch that would not be good.

Absolutely.

No, I think this is well executed.

It's also like pretty straightforward in terms of what's going on.

And then it also just moves at a good clip.

Like, why can't I, why, why, you know, not everything needs to be

hypermounted.

Red eyes.

Very, like, Akuma right before he does, like, his finishing move.

He looks mean.

Really cool head, too.

Full-blown airplane jet.

That's awesome.

That's fucking awesome.

Sometimes the animation goes like way harder than it needs to also in this, where like the background will suddenly completely collapse and every individual piece is animated.

Really, really good.

Yeah, like some of this is like it looks looks a little bit, hey, a little cheap, but other parts of it is like they like, oh, this is what we're going to commit our resources to.

Because, you know, some of the movement is like, oh, this is like animated in fours or something, you know, that there aren't a lot of frames here.

That was just like a still, you know,

cell moving over a background.

But other stuff is just like, oh, they got some real detail into it.

Oh, my God.

Metal Sonic's going going to, like, murder regular Sonic.

That's rad.

Sonic's been incapacitated, and Metal Sonic is dragging him by the leg into the sky.

Tails is trying to help,

and suddenly Knuckles can't fly anymore.

Knuckles' voice is very strange.

You mean because it's not Idris Elba?

Yeah, well, also, it's just like

it doesn't feel like committed to one direction or another.

I don't know if I could tell you what I think Knuckles sounds like pre-Idris Elba.

I have no idea,

but yeah, it's such a strong performance that it has become the sort of de facto version of him.

I like that Robotnik doesn't seem horny.

Yeah, he just, he doesn't even seem like he's like that bad.

There could be a version of this where he's like pervy towards the president's daughter, but he more just sort of seems like, you know, nah, you're along for the ride with me.

Yeah.

Oh my god.

Whoa.

Holy shit.

Metal Sonic just fucking roundhouse kicked Sonic while he's upside down.

Kicked him off a fucking mountaintop.

Yeah, and he

He did it by not by moving his leg, but by rotating his entire body at the neck.

Yeah.

In full view of the planet Saturn.

So Robotnik and the President's daughter

are, I guess, just observing through their,

you know, aircraft.

And Tails is.

Tails and Knuckles, I guess, are just fleeing through a warp.

They left Sonic's corpse in New York City and returned to Hawaii.

I love this background.

Planet in the background.

Looks like

a king.

Metal Sonic's going to kill the owl.

I've been so scared for a character I didn't like that much.

Oh my gosh.

Jesus Christ.

He just left

a grease stain of just like

feathers and blood.

Yeah.

Turned him into one of those weird owl shits of his own body.

Tides are going to wash him away.

Sonic's in fucking hell or something.

Yeah,

Sonic's in a forest.

And he has no idea how he got there, and neither do we.

Can I just say the president

needs to tone down his wardrobe a little bit?

He looks like a tinpot dictator.

You can't be wearing the admiral's coat and the full sash if you want to be like a present yourself as a democratically elected leader.

And then also, he thinks dumb shit to himself, sees a bunch of destruction, bunch of like buildings toppled, knows that there's a fucking metal robotnik, and is like, I wonder if he did this.

The owl

he's actually cool.

The owl is put on all of Sonic's clothes after his encounter with Metal Sonic, so I feel like maybe the owl is just like a corpse that Metal Sonic is wearing.

Yeah,

Metal Sonic took all his clothes.

Hmm.

Oh, she's okay.

Robotnik got her a little dress to wear.

That felt like it was not translated the way it was supposed to.

Yeah.

I feel like they glossed over the perviness of Robotnik in that way.

Oh, this is my future wife.

Yeah.

I like that Tails is good at machines.

I like that he's a little mechanic.

I like that too.

It's really fun.

I think it's also like it's an aspirational skill.

I'd love to be good with machines.

Yeah, but it also just gives another way that he can help out.

Anytime someone can help out the team in multiple ways, I think that's fine.

Because he's not stronger than Sonic.

He's not even as strong as Sonic.

But he can hold his own.

But he can fly.

He's mobile.

And then he also does machines like Donatello.

And Knuckles is kind of rude.

Yeah, he's got a little dude.

What the fuck happened happened to the owl?

I don't know.

I don't know.

That was baffling.

Why is the owl wearing Sonic's clothes and dancing?

It's like he's been brainwashed or deprogrammed.

It's like when Hans Moleman shows up in Bart Simpsons' clothes.

He says, cowabunga, dude.

What the fuck is going on here?

Can we do The Simpsons on one of these?

Yeah, we should.

We should watch The Simpsons episode.

You know what?

I bet we could do like some Simpsons video game-themed episodes, like the the Bone Storm episode.

Oh, yeah.

I bet we could get away with that as like a one-off special if we did a couple of those.

Yeah, there's got to be a Simpsons anime crossover at some point.

There is.

They did a...

Oh, what was it?

Was it?

Oh, they did Death Note.

Yeah, they did Death Note.

It was actually really cool looking.

It is impossible for me to pay attention to you guys talking while I'm trying to solve the mystery of the owl.

Like, I'm really hyper-focused trying to hear what happened to the owl.

Because the owl was just on, so they're in some, they're in Tails' like computer lab.

And

the, uh, what is, okay, I'm lost.

You know, if you just had a near-death experience.

I'm so lost.

You would, you would maybe think about trying to be cooler when you get to the bathroom.

I'm baffled.

I'm confused.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm confused.

I'm lost.

I misread this.

He does.

He is being creepy.

He does want to marry her.

They're going to get married.

Yeah, Yeah, and the dress he got her is a wedding dress.

I knew it.

And now she's imagining a future where she has a bunch of little robotnick kids.

She was breastfeeding one of them.

Yeah, she was.

It's kind of amazing that didn't get censored for U.S.

release.

That's kind of anything they generally would have.

So,

okay.

Not that it's a thing that should be censored.

I'm just saying, like, the very American censors tend to be very prudish.

Okay.

I think breastfeeding is beautiful.

Like a guy that's like down, like, is a normal guy goes too far with it.

Okay, we're good.

Okay, we heard you.

I'm sick of this.

So the president has a technological compound, and he's using it to communicate with Knuckles and the owl.

And now they're talking about a glacier that we, I don't believe, have seen yet,

which

is, oh, this is what's going to happen if Robotnik gets his way.

This is a terrifying death.

This is on Letterbox.

This is getting five stars.

So,

I agree with the review.

His plan is to

melt, like, I guess the equivalent of the polar ice caps, which will cause the globe to spin super fast, which will eject all the continents into space.

So, yeah, so they figured out what Metal Sonic's plan is.

They're going to go to the North Pole as fast as they can to stop him.

I hope to God we find out what happened to the owl by the end of this film, or I will not, I won't,

I won't be able to give this a five-star review on Letterman.

Metal Sonic shows up, confronts the owl.

The owl looks like he's about to die.

We dissolve out of that scene.

Some time passes.

The owl shows up, and he is dressed up like a surfer dude.

And there's not a lot of context for what happened.

Meanwhile, Robotnik and the president's daughter are warping to some other place.

Hills has an Apple Watch.

That's pretty good.

Yeah, it is cool.

He's got a smart watch.

He has like

one of Robotnik's watches so he can snoop on him.

Are these episodes enjoyable for a regular listener?

People do, people do like it.

If you're in it, I think this is fun.

Aren't you like confused about what we're confused about?

We're trying to paint with words a little bit, describe what's going on.

Metal Sonic is looking dreadful.

Why is Metal Sonic drawn so much better than everything else in this entire movie?

He looks awesome.

Well, you know what?

I wonder if it might be.

I wonder if it's kind of like, hey, this gets to be our own character design.

This is a thing that we get to put some of our own, you know, spin on.

Who's they?

I assume the animation studio.

No, that guy exists.

Yeah, I know.

I know Metal Sonic exists, but I'm just like, I wonder if, like, because it's hyper-metal Sonic or because they're like, I wonder if they get to have their own little take.

He looks exactly like Sonic CD Metal Sonic.

Well, then, never mind.

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I'm just telling you that he's drawn better,

he's colored better.

He looks cool.

Metal Sonic and Sonic are about to face off in

the North Pole-ish,

And Metal Sonic is mocking him.

This movie is on Letterbox, and I just logged it with five stars, and my review is: this is incredible.

So I'm looking at the plot summary on Wikipedia,

and unfortunately,

Owl is only referenced once for his characteristic introduction.

So it's not giving any more specificity in terms of what's happening with his character arc.

But he is called Old Man Owl.

Oh, the reason Sonic can't beat Metal Sonic is because Metal Sonic has scanned Sonic's brain, and so he knows everything that's going to happen.

Yeah, that's cool.

Also, Sonic just got hit in the nuts.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Okay, Metal Sonic was, I guess, inadvertently peeping on

under

Sarah's wedding dress.

This is very fan service-y, the way for a PG property, the way that Sarah is rendered.

There's a lot of

the scoring through here is really cool.

It's like synthy with like a little bit of like saxophone, which I don't know if it's real.

I can't quite tell

if it's real, real sax.

I think it's synth sax, but it's cool

flew a plane into Metal Sonic.

It's interesting to see this

and to know that they haven't added all his shitty friends yet.

Right.

That's a pretty good.

It's a pretty good bit.

Robotnik.

He was creating some bad Nicks on the fly.

He had like some real, like some actual animals that came out of his craft.

They always, all the bad guys just want to marry.

Think about how funny it is to be like, the worst thing I can do to a woman is marry her.

Yeah, I know what I'll do.

I'll make this woman my wife.

His plan is particularly bad, though, because he's going to extinguish all other life on Earth.

So all we'll be left with him and her.

And then they'll have little robotnick babies.

Yeah.

Because I imagine if you're in her situation, it's like, well, there's literally no one else alive.

Oh, there's Sonic, there's

Knuckles and Tails, of course.

I mean, not if Robotnik has his way.

Is this Colleen O'Shaughnessy still?

Or

let me bring up the cast here.

It might be.

This is the most

kinetic thing I've ever watched this late at night.

It is Lainey Frazier in the English dub.

Now, Sonic and Metal Sonic are

like making lava come out of the ice.

Yeah,

I don't know how that happened, but Knuckles' hat caught on fire.

He was freaking out.

It was pretty funny.

Okay, listen to this.

The actor in the English dub

who plays Old Man Owl is Charles C.

Campbell.

My dad.

Charles C.

Campbell was employed as ADV Film's first in-house ADR audio engineer.

He sat behind the mixing board through many ADV classics, including Neon Genesis Evangelion, Blue Seed, Battle Angel, Golden Boy, and the live-action Gamera, Guardian of the Universe.

Wow.

Isn't that wild?

Crazy.

Crazy.

The guy who's voicing the owl in this was just like mixing the English dub of all these classic anime.

That's insane.

Yeah.

And I guess he's an actor as well.

Has directed episodes of One Piece.

Very cool.

Really cool.

Wow.

It's cool when someone has like a big, wild, like divergent career like that.

I guess Sonic beat Metal Sonic, but I don't know how.

I kicked his ass.

Yeah, I probably just won't.

It was hard to follow while also listening to interesting factoids about a guy behind the mixing board.

Yeah, President's about to die.

Trying not to get too much in the notes here, but it's irresistible.

Tails is pulling Sonic up into the sky.

And Metal's back.

Metal has not been defeated.

I like calling him just Metal.

That's pretty cool.

His hands are terrifying.

They really are.

They're just like fucking razor-sharp claws.

God, I'd hate to be stabbed with one of those.

I'd hate to be stabbed with anything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what?

Pretty low on my list of ways I'd like to be hurt.

Robotnik does look cool in his wedding suit, I will say.

Yeah, he looks sharp.

He cleans up nice.

The baby blue tucks.

It's a good look for him with a red bow tie.

A little bit of a cape.

There's a name for that.

I can't remember what it's called.

Sort of like a half cape.

Sure.

Sort of situation.

If I was a kid, this whole sequence would have been some of my favorite stuff I'd ever seen.

If I was a kid, I would maybe tell you that this is my favorite thing.

The environment is really.

I mean, they're in this whole, this whole polar ice cap environment, and it's...

It's got some cool backgrounds.

Some that are a little spare, but other ones that are very, very cool looking.

Knuckles had a bump on his head, and it was round, and it kind of looked gross.

I don't love the whole bump on the head thing, which I know is like in all animation, the way to show injury, but I always feel like it looks gross.

Yeah.

Because, like, what is it filled with?

Right.

Metal Sonic is getting fucked up.

The president is near death.

Well, Knuckles using his famous Knuckles, unable to punch through the glass that the President is trapped inside.

But it looks like Metal Sonic has been hurtled through and has penetrated the whole

Sonic.

This This is the whole franchise in a nutshell.

Yes.

A massive explosion with Sonic the Hedgehog yelling out, Mr.

President, can you hear me?

Sonic just dove into the volcano to, I think, save Metal Sonic.

Ah, fuck, this rules.

Oh, my God.

It's very

revenge of the sixth.

This is great because he is fucked up.

He'll drag you under widths.

It's so dark.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Metal Sonic knocked his hand away.

Metal Sonic would rather die than receive Sonic's help.

Oh, my God.

Holy shit.

He said there's only one Sonic and then went into the lava.

And then sacrificed himself.

Legs first.

Legs first.

There's only one Sonic Sonic.

You.

And then he fucking, he didn't say, but it's like an implied is there's only one Sonic you, so I have to kill myself.

The tortoise is still running, and that's really funny.

The tortoise, that was very funny.

The magma fucking melted.

Metal Sonic into nothing.

And now they're all standing there like, so I guess we got to just go back home or something.

We just witnessed a slow suicide, I guess.

Go on with our lives somehow.

Hopefully, that soda of mine's still cold.

All of Sonic's data.

What the hell are you talking about?

Robotnik has a CD.

That's all the metal Sonic's data.

That's all that Sonic is, is one CD's worth of information.

Tortoise grabbed the CD and then blew up.

That's fun.

They're all laughing at it.

I'm like, haha, Robotnik, you stupid bitch.

God, that was like the end of Terminator 2.

Yeah.

It's so good.

Almost the end of Toy Story 3.

So fucking grin.

I think this is the end of the the movie.

I think so.

I think we're coming up on it.

Well, the central conflict has been resolved.

We're not going to be able to melt the polar ice cash.

Pool is now on Robotnik's side, along with the president and the president's daughter.

Are they friends now?

There was never

an explanation of any kind.

I think they're still arguing.

I think that, yeah, the Owls on the Owls maybe switched allegiances,

but I think the President and Sarah are still being held hostage to some degree.

The end.

We get a Sonic the Hedgehog.

Well, hey, that was good.

I enjoyed the movie.

Because

we've done these

watch-alongs with Pokemon movies.

We've done credits music, too.

We only got a little piece of it in this rip.

We've done it with Pokemon movies.

We've done it with the Tekken movie.

And maybe...

Did we do it with the Street Fighter one or we just watched Street Fighter one?

We did animehem this way.

We did anime him this way.

We did anime him this way.

This is far and away the best one of these where we've the best thing we've watched in.

Yeah, this is the best of these.

The least, the thing that dragged the least, other than for me,

camp girls, whatever the fuck that is.

Camp Back Camp.

But

yeah,

I'm surprised that that was decent.

I thought that was good.

I enjoyed it.

I loved it.

I also think it just sort of captures everything that's fun about Sonic.

Yeah.

It's just like

this knows, this understands the appeal of the property and represents it in a narrative.

Move fast, nonsense, move fast.

Right.

And be cool, dude.

He was cool like the whole time.

He was really cool.

So, as far as get plate goes, all right, Ranch, any, any thoughts on this movie?

Love the turtle.

Yeah, turtle's great.

As your first, like, you know, we, we talked about the Sonic Underground theme song, but like, as your first full exposure to the Sonic canon,

how do you feel?

Are you interested in exploring more about this

cool hedgehog?

Yeah, I feel like

I gotta consume more.

Okay, great.

Let us know how your journey progresses.

As far as get plate goes, the only thing I spotted, let me know if there's anything else you saw, but the only thing I spotted was some beach sodas.

I didn't spot any food anywhere in this.

Yeah, we had Sonic sipping a beach soda, and then later on, the owl is emulating him and also sipping a beach soda.

So I guess I'll ask,

do you like sipping a soda on the beach?

Because that sounds, I mean, I don't think about doing that often, but you know what?

That sounds pretty fun.

I usually will have like, if I'm going to have like, I'll have like a smoothie or something, or maybe like a.

I don't like the beach.

You don't like the beach?

No, come on.

I mean, why is that a surprise with my character at all?

I don't like the beach.

I love the beach.

At all.

Do you love the beach?

Yeah.

I'm from Long Beach.

I know.

I love that area.

I love the sand between my toes.

I love watching

the waves I like the ocean breeze.

I don't necessarily like going in the ocean because the ocean is very oftentimes filthy water.

I hate sand.

It's rough.

It's coarse.

It gets everywhere.

Got a anakin in our hands.

I like being at the beach, but I don't like going there and I don't like leaving.

Like, do you know what I mean?

Because like the idea of transporting sand

does bother me.

Yeah, no, that's the thing.

Like you got to deal with that.

You got to have like, I'm going to wear some sandals.

I'm going to rinse my feet off at the beach shower hopefully take care of all of it i might have i'm driving i might have some sand in the car yeah there might be some issues you got to deal with but i that that's an that's the thing that's a that's a solvable problem i grew up going to seal beach oh yeah

and then which is a great beach there's a taco surf right nearby we still we go to that taco surf all the time um but then as i got older we started to go to um bolsa chica oh yeah bolsa chica and there's a there's a jack in the box like on the corner that's right

in the box it's a fucking it's a perfect jack in the box.

It's one, it's good, it's good quality jack in the box.

And two, it's a perfect beach.

Like, I'm just gonna be here for a little bit, eat some

fucking horrible food, eat some nasty food.

I'm gonna swim for four hours.

Have a great day.

But I do like a soda on the beach.

I like a cold one on the beach.

That's what I was gonna say.

Like,

I honestly think of the, I associate the beach so much more with like alcohol, with like having a brew dog or having like a, like a frozen margarita or something like that.

But when I think about it, I see him just Sonic looking cool as shit, sipping a soda in a cup.

I mean, that's a lot of fun.

Why wouldn't I like an ice-cold Coca-Cola?

I got the beach soda, I think.

Cactus cooler.

Yeah, that's a good call.

I like a cactus cooler.

I got, I oversaturated myself with cactus cooler as a kid because I was like,

I love cactus cooler.

I only want cactus coolers.

Having cactus cooler all the time.

I was getting my parents to buy as much as any soda.

And I was like having a cactus cooler every day.

And I reached a a certain point.

I was like, I'm kind of over it.

Cactus cooler is coveted to me to this day.

I didn't grow up getting it that much,

but I always wanted it.

And now, whenever I can get

at a taco stand or any place that sells a single can of soda and they have cactus cooler, I'm reaching for a cactus cooler every time.

I haven't had one in like 20 years.

I should have one.

They're so good.

And I also think squirt, a glass bird.

Squirt is great.

A glass bottle squirt.

I've maybe said this to you.

Maybe, I don't know if I've said this to you.

I think a glass bottle squirt when it's ice cold is the coldest drink you can have

it is so fucking good yeah

it's perfect a grapefruit soda is is very fun and squirt is a good one love it i had a uh there was a place a restaurant that closed called paley here in la

and they served soparo in a yeah in a special

like it was a special situation that they advertised and it was like the coldest possible beer.

They would serve it to you in a, in a pint glass, like a long pint glass.

And when they put it down on the table, when they tapped it, it would start to freeze inside the glass.

Wow.

And it was the, it was the coldest drink I've ever had.

Wow.

That's amazing.

I want that.

I want that.

Ranch, you like soda?

I love soda.

What's your, what's your go-to soda?

Um, Dr.

Pepper.

Yeah, Dr.

Pepper is great.

Do you ever mess with a cactus cooler?

Is that like, Is it orange?

Yeah, orange piece.

I think I've had it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's good.

It's good.

Where do you stand on the beach in general?

I don't love the beach.

You don't love the beach.

Okay.

You're fucking right.

Branch and I are the same.

I like looking at it.

Yeah, right.

If I'm driving by.

Yep, yep, yep.

A beach drive, great.

No, this is the thing.

So much of the appeal for the beach for me is looking at the beach.

I do really like looking at the beach and I like being by the ocean.

I love seeing the ocean.

Any day I see the ocean is a good day.

If I'm at the beach, even for like 30 minutes, I go home nauseous and exhausted.

Wow.

This is going to sound counter to what I'm about to say.

I do like to be at the beach,

but

as soon as I get to the beach, I'm like, when can we leave?

I'm ready to go home at any time because, like, yeah, the idea of getting wet, the idea of like

going in the ocean, going in the ocean here is different.

I'm about to go to the beach

for a week, and I'm actually very excited about it, but I am like, the beaches here, I wish, were just a little bit better.

When you go to beach out of town,

like

even,

gosh, like Pismo Beach, I like going to the beaches up there.

Oh, sure.

It's beautiful over there.

Yeah, I've camped there before.

It's great.

But yeah, Zuma's fine.

Like, if I have to go to the beach over here, like, in LA, I'll go to Zuma and have a nice day.

You go down to like a Huntington Beach or a Newport beach.

Only when I want to go to to a very specific rally.

This is the thing those beaches are nice, but like the people there are fucking awful.

This is the worst conversation of my life.

And I was once told I had cancer.

What is your preferred spend a day outside?

Mountains, forest, mountains and forests.

Those are good biomes.

I love mountains and forest.

I hate beach.

I hate desert.

I want mountains and forest.

Stream, Lake.

Fine.

Oh, you like the lake?

Get the lake out of here.

You don't like the lake.

Fuck.

Ocean destroys the lake.

Ocean is disgusting.

Lakes are fucking disgusting.

Lake is good.

I don't even fucking want to get a brain amoeba.

Get me out of there.

You think the Pacific garbage patch isn't giving you brain amoebas?

You guys, rivers are where it's at.

Rivers are awesome.

They're powerful.

Rivers are great.

You ever gone whitewatering?

What the fuck do you think, Heather?

The answer is yes.

No, no, no.

I've gone a few times.

No, it seems cool.

It seems dangerous and like you need equipment and

people to want to do that with.

Not if you go up to northern Wisconsin where they just, you, you go to a whitewater place and they're like, here you go.

And they don't even give you helmets.

Yeah, here's what I'll say about whitewater rafting.

First off, sometimes like the white rotter rafting is run by like a guy who owns a boat.

Yeah.

Like it's not like the most regulated sector of the economy.

But the other thing is like

I've I've been whitewater rafting and then I compare that with like a whitewater rafting ride at like Disney's California Adventures.

Like I'd rather just do the ride.

It's the same sort of experience.

One of the two times I've been

the second and final time I went whitewater rafting on on a waterfall.

I was in high school and on a waterfall that we went over, my friend's boat hit a rock and exploded.

Oh my god.

So that was the last time we ever went whitewatering.

I'm just now, I'm not just remembering this, but

a couple years ago when I was in Hawaii, I was on the big island Kona.

I never snorkeled before in my life.

So we go to this hotel that has like a little lagoon that has the ocean water coming in and there's like fish and like turtles in the little lagoon.

It's great.

I'm learning to snorkel in there.

It's like four feet deep or whatever, but like I'm just like, I'm learning.

Okay.

I pick it up pretty quickly.

I'm interested because I'm seeing little fish and that's exciting.

That's like really fun fun to see fish just kind of swimming around.

You're supposed to leave them alone, don't touch them, don't do anything, don't leave them alone, but keep a distance and look, take a picture if you want.

If you have an underwater camera, which I did buy for the trip, and then

we go to the beach,

and now I have the whole ocean to snorkel in if I want.

And let me tell you something: I had to be called back because I went, according to my fiancé and our family,

dangerously far.

I was just way out there just having the time of my life.

I loved it.

So if I have an ocean activity, I like to be in the ocean, but you're not going to ever see me

running away from the waves and trying to get in there anymore.

Give me a boogie board or something.

I'll do it.

I've done snorkeling a few times, and it upsets me because I feel like I'm high in the air.

Interesting.

Yeah, I can see that.

Because if you're over clear water and you can see all the way down, you're like, I'm on the top of a four-story building.

We got in a like a glass-bottom boat tour that took us out further than we would, than we could have gotten on our own.

And we got to snorkel in the middle of the ocean.

And that was fucking terrifying.

It's terrifying.

Terrifying.

I've done that too.

So scary, but I terrifying.

I also, I loved it.

No way.

I loved it

so much.

No way.

There's different fish out there than the ones you see close to you.

Yeah, I can imagine.

It was really, really cool.

But it was very, very.

I was like, what did they leave me out here?

I saw a nurse.

I saw a nurse shark, which are apparently not dangerous to people, but are still shark-shaped and sharks while snorkeling in Florida.

And I was like, this is hell.

What's the difference between that shark and a nurse shark?

Is it or a regular shark?

Is it just like wearing a

different outfit?

Their mouths don't

have like the big teethy mouth.

So it's not like nurse joker, where you're sort of like, oh, this nurse.

This nurse is fine, but when you take off a mask, is something joker?

Just a joker all of a sudden?

Describing a nurse as wearing a different outfit.

All jobs are just different outfits when you're at the end of the day.

Well, I want to go back to the beach thing because, Rochelle, you lived in Thailand for a time.

Isn't Thailand, I've never been, isn't it famed for its beaches?

Isn't that part of it?

It is.

I lived in Bangkok, which is a city, but we did go to the beach often.

Wait, how far?

I don't know the geography.

Is Bangkok near the coast at all?

Probably the closest

beach is like an hour and a half.

Okay, so it's not like right there.

Yeah.

Got it.

So you weren't like in the beachy communities where you know there were they were like that was like a a big part of the uh no no and then the closest beach was like really disgusting you have to like fly to the south um to get to all the islands interesting interesting well there you go uh well this has been uh the beach and soda chad

The beach and soda.

You know, I was thinking where we were talking like, because we were talking about Sonic swimming earlier, a fun bit of fan service would have been if they'd taken the scoring from when Sonic's about to drown and used that when he was in peril in the water.

Because that is a really cool thing.

They do it in the movie.

It is really cool.

Yep.

I like that.

I do like that too.

Guys, it's my bedtime.

Yeah,

let's go home.

It's fucking late.

Well, if you're listening to this at night, you too can go to bed now.

And if it's the morning, pull over your car and go to bed.

If it's the middle of the day, perhaps it's time for you to tell your boss, I'm tired, and then just leave the office and go to bed.

Because we're putting Sonic the Hedgehog to bed today

on Get Animate.

Maybe when you wake up in your subconscious, in your sleep, your brain will have figured out what the fuck happened with that owl.

Hey, that was the Sonic anime.

Last week, we watched the final two episodes of Uzumaki, and y'all send in some of your thoughts.

It's time for chain reactions, colon, talkinator0, colon, youzu talkie.

Uh

oh no, this show, it's a it's a spiral.

Oh boy, it's folding back in on itself.

Yeah, Higari goes.

You know, we're uh, Heather wasn't here last week for episodes three and four.

Heather, real quick, would you like to say what you thought about episodes three and four?

Um, so I had to miss, uh, I had to miss the record

for extenuating circumstances.

And I can can only say

the only thing worse than watching those episodes was watching them for no fucking reason.

So, yeah, they

my Uzu talkie is please don't ever, don't ever do that to me again.

Okay, well, this first comment is from Duke Lyon.

Hey, Duke Lion.

Hi, Duke Lion.

And Duke Lion writes, I worked at Hollywood Video in the early 2000s and watched all of the Tomie movies.

Had no idea they were adaptations of anything.

Wow.

Wow.

Any take beyond that?

That's all they said, but I would imagine, because like, I remember at my Hollywood video,

these were live-action movies.

Yeah, these were live-action Tomie movies.

I remember at my Hollywood video, they would have walls of like multiple screens showing the same movie.

And that was always an allure to me.

Yeah.

She would always be like, okay, well, I can't find something that I want to watch.

My brothers will probably fix something.

I'm just going to stand here and watch, you know, Austin Powers 2 or something.

Sure.

Whatever they had on at the time.

Gosh, Hollywood video in the early 2000s.

Take me back.

What a time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Get rid of the smartphones, put in a Hollywood video.

Let's go.

I don't take a smartphone over.

I would take a Hollywood video over a smartphone.

I'm done with my phone.

I didn't even know that the Tomier films were released on video in the States.

That is an interesting piece of information.

Let alone that you can find them in Hollywood Video.

Yeah.

Hollywood Video always had a little bit more eclectic

selection than Blockbuster, I found.

I found Hollywood Video to be more like, oh, wow, they have the bride with white hair on VHS.

That's strange.

They've been, they've made nine Tomier films.

I had no idea it was that extensive of a franchise

Is it I mean, I would assume that the tome is as chunky as Uzumaki to warrant such yeah Tomiye is a big boy.

I mean I I read it and talked about it on the the podcast

at a certain point

but uh it's uh

it it's it's it's a big boy.

I mean, it's it's I see how they could kind of take kind of the anthology structure and like focus a whole movie movie that's like on one aspect of the story, but I wonder how they adapted it exactly.

I guess I'd have to read it and then watch it so I would

have a point of comparison.

This next one is from Kid Kimura.

And Kid Kimura writes, Reading Uzumaki fucked me up for life.

I first tried to read it a few years ago while I was recovering from a medical procedure.

I have an inner ear disorder called, oh boy, Minieri's disease.

Sorry for the mispronunciation there.

I've heard of that disease, but I also do not know how you're supposed to pronounce it.

Which involves pretty intense vertigo attacks

alongside plenty of other fun symptoms.

Reading that sarcastically.

At the time, I was recovering from a treatment that intentionally destroys part of the inner ear of the affected side to eventually help relieve the vertigo.

Wow.

In the short term, though, I was suffering from the worst dizziness of my life, literally bedbound and unable to move my head without experiencing severe vertigo.

Oh, my God.

Perfect opportunity to catch up on some reading.

When I got

this is just like a well-constructed comment.

It's longer, but I'm appreciating the journey that we're on.

When I got to the bit about Shuichi's mother stabbing herself in the ears and being

stuck in a constant state of vertigo, it fucked me up so bad that I started having a severe vertigo attack.

I slammed the book shut and threw it across the room and didn't work up to nerve to finish it for another six months.

This was the single worst possible book I could have read at that point.

I felt scared by the I felt scarred by the experience.

Thankfully, I don't get vertigo attacks as often or as intense these days, but it's something that can still happen at any time and with very little warning.

Much like the town of

Caruzzo Cho, I'll forever be haunted by spirals.

Wow.

Thanks for sharing, Kid Commercial.

I'm sorry that you scared me.

Great comment.

Horrible circumstances.

Sorry you had to go through that.

Oh, jeez.

Wow.

That's like watching the movie alive on an airplane.

That's like that experience.

You know what I mean?

What is the movie alive?

Alive.

It's the one where they eat each other.

Yeah, a plane crashes.

The Society of the Snow.

Yeah, those guys got adapted.

I watched the remake of the Poseidon adventure on a cruise ship.

Pretty good.

That's very funny.

I don't remember it being particularly good, but I remember

liking it at the time.

This next one's from Kyle Caulfield.

Hi, Kyle.

And Kyle writes, Matt, my brother in Arceus, spirals are indeed shapes.

So you aren't here for this, Heather, but.

Wow.

What the fuck?

What did I do?

I asked out loud on the show with just Nick here, is a spiral a shape?

And we didn't come to a good conclusion.

What is a shape?

See, now this is what we need is.

Isn't a shape literally anything you can look at?

Yeah, as a line.

Like a camera is a shape.

Well, this is what I think.

I was like, is a line a shape?

Because I was like, it's a point.

A spiral to me is two points in a fixed plane.

But does that constitute a shape?

A spiral is two points.

It's not just two points.

There's a bunch more going on.

Yeah, but it starts and it ends, no?

Yeah.

But maybe it's also infinite.

Yeah,

I think it is a shape.

I think it's maybe a two-dimensional shape or a three-dimensional shape, depending on how it's rendered.

But I think it's very much a shape.

So you're saying a shape has to like finish.

i think that's what i mean and there's some there's some deliberation here in the comments our previous commenter kid kamura says i think a spiral can be a shape but as it's essentially just a line with no interconnecting points i'd say it's better described as a curve see maybe that's interesting

and then kyle says so a curved shape or alternative or alternatively a wild and crazy line.

We may never know what the spiral actually is, but I think I was getting close with it's a curve of some kind.

I want to talk to like a geometry expert.

Uh, I want to talk to one too and give him a wedgie or something.

Unnecessary.

Um,

and also, you're both so satisfied with it,

which makes it worse.

Could you imagine me giving somebody a wedgie?

It's kind of funny.

Yeah, I can.

I wouldn't do it.

Tenured mathematician at Stanford University.

His fucking chonies pulled over his head.

Chonies?

His chonies.

What is a chony?

Chonies is like what people call like undies.

Oh, okay.

I didn't know choni.

It's pretty funny.

You'll enjoy saying it.

Had fun.

Hearing it as a standalone is pretty funny.

Joe Kay writes.

Hey, Joe.

The mosquito straw.

We were really stupid last night.

I forgot we said all stupid bullshit.

What is a shape?

What is it?

It's a spiralist shape.

What is the, I think I called it a beak at first, and then we called it, we settled on straw.

The mosquito straw?

I mean, I know what it, what you mean.

What is it, a nozzle?

Does it have a name?

A nozzle.

Joe K says the mosquito straw is a proboscus.

Proboscus?

Proboscus, yeah.

Or proboscis.

I haven't watched this or Terminator Terminator Zero, and I never will.

You know, honestly, that's a fair approach, is to listen to the pod, see if we thought something was worthwhile, and then decide whether or not to actually watch it.

We were asking last week if

people like getting bitten by mosquitoes.

Heather, where are you at with getting mosquito bites?

What the fuck?

It came up.

People like it?

This was my contention because, you know, there's people who are like, oh, I actually like rats.

I think they're cute and misunderstood.

I was like, no one actually likes mosquitoes.

There's not anyone who's like, who's like, oh, I actually think mosquitoes are like, like, cool.

Or like, I like a mosquito bite.

Those people don't exist.

You've invented the type of person, though.

The fact that you've said it means that in our universe, it does exist.

Wow.

Because until then, I'd never had that thought.

Right.

And the fact that I've had the thought means there's some contrarian out there who's like, I actually like mosquitoes.

Or people who like worms and stuff, you know?

Well, from commenter Deacon Raid,

I produce an entomology podcast called Bugs Need Heroes.

And one of the hosts loves mosquitoes.

Wow.

Her doctorate focuses on them and climate change.

It's expected that warmer climates will mean more mosquitoes, but she's been bitten by them so much that she's developed an allergy.

Entomologists also sometimes get allergies to the small scales on butterfly wings.

Whoa.

That's wild.

What I'm learning here in just this comment alone, there's a lot about bugs I just don't know.

Yeah.

There's too many bugs.

There's that.

I'll say that.

You can say that again.

Fewer now, though, than there used to be.

And that's bad, probably.

Yeah.

Also, that entomologist with a degree in climate science sounds like someone else you'd want to bully.

I actually

really respect scientists.

Mathematicians are pointexters, but scientists

sucks.

Science rules.

Science is like magic.

Much like the late, great Jimmy Buffett.

You think math sucks, S-U-X.

Jimmy Buffett wrote a song called Math Sucks.

He did.

He did, yeah.

I know he's passed, but let me just say this.

He has no leg to stand on for calling saying anything sucks.

How dare you?

Jesus Christ.

Whenever I walk by his restaurant, there's always at least one very sad-looking person there.

Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville has fallen off a cliff, unfortunately.

Ryan Quinn says.

Hi, Ryan.

Nick's saying the plot starts to feel dizzying.

Hey, buddy, guess what's also dizzying?

A spiral, baby.

Fuck.

They got me.

I didn't even know that we can get owned in the comments like that.

I'm going to say from henceforth, never do that again.

Lest you want the band of your undies on the top of your head, brother.

My chonies.

My chonies.

They're going to rip.

It's my only pair.

I only get one pair a year from Christmas from my mom.

Get out of here.

Just kidding.

Sorry, Ryan.

You seems like a good guy.

Am I like having a fever dream or something?

I don't know.

Dean Loud and Clear, right?

This will be our last one.

Dean Loud and Clear.

Dean Loud and Clear, old pal.

The Dean.

Wow.

I'm actually shocked at how bad this show was.

It now sits alongside, oh, Fooley Cooley, as easily the worst two shows that have been covered on this podcast.

Wow.

That's a shot.

That's a shot.

That's a shot.

Did I like that show?

No.

No, no.

Oh, no.

These are not comparable.

They're on completely different levels.

Even just from a craft standpoint, like Foodie Kootie, whatever you think of the content, is a great-looking show.

It is an abrasive watch.

Yes, it has some elements.

It is some intentionally repulsive elements, but it's,

I think that's like, at minimum, that is a show.

This is just a hodgepodge of ideas that don't really.

That's a hot take from Dean.

But it's what I like to read.

I'd like to to read a hot take i don't agree with it but i like the take cold takes miss me with that who needs it guys was that the last was that the last one that was the last one and that's uh that concludes our our uh discussion of uzumaki let us know what you thought next week about uh the sonic um

uh movie movie we just watched yes and also

guys

guys i could not be more excited to say that the boys have agreed to let me watch for the next three episodes of Get Anime.

We are going to cover Gundam Requiem for Vengeance.

And I cannot,

I cannot say whether it is good or not, but I have a feeling that it might be good.

And if it is good, then by God,

I am going to get to watch a brand new Gundam show right here on the show with my friends and you, the listeners.

It's Gundam for Requiem for Vengeance on Netflix.

And I'm going to go say right off the bat, I'm not watching watching it in English.

I'm gonna watch it in Japanese.

I hope you do too when we watch Gundam Requiem for Vengeance.

Wow.

Does Gundam have like a Terminator?

Like

not really.

Kind of feels like they need one.

There's too many good themes for it to have a single theme.

Oh, well, hey, that bodes well for us then.

And you know what?

I got anime.

Why did you say that?

I feel like I took us down like a crazy road and we kind of all went a little crazy there.

You don't think Dr.

Robotnik got animated?

Oh, you know, actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I think it was actually Dr.

Robotnik and not me.

But wait, we actually didn't touch on this actually for a second.

Dr.

Robotnik?

Nick?

Robotnik?

Let's end the episode, guys.

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