Get Anime'd Unlocked: Sonic The Hedgehog OVA Watchalong

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Get Anime, the anime watch-along podcast with the hosts of Get Played. I'm self-proclaimed char horse statue, Heather Ann Campbell.

Speaker 3 I'm self-proclaimed walking shark, Nick Weiger.

Speaker 2 And I'm self-proclaimed Matt the podcaster, Matt Apodaga. Hello, everyone.

Speaker 1 Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere anime podcast where we're doing that fun thing we do.

Speaker 1 We're going to watch an anime, and we're going to provide live commentary right here as you watch it with us.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 3 This is a true watch-along. And also, you know, you don't have to use this as a commentary track.
You hopefully this will stand as a piece of audio in its own right.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 it will. No, it will.

Speaker 3 Absolutely will. People will just be able to listen to this.

Speaker 2 I do think

Speaker 2 in this day and age where you can listen to recorded media, sure,

Speaker 2 it is baffling to me that like

Speaker 2 DVD commentaries are just non-existent now.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised that there is not an app that is like a podcasting app, like, you know, any of these fucking podcasting apps dedicated to

Speaker 1 film commentary by not either by stars or directors or tertiary comedy podcasts. Yeah.
You know, that you can't like, oh, I'm going to watch Armageddon.

Speaker 1 I want to watch it with the original Ben Affleck

Speaker 1 behind the scenes stuff. Yes.
Or I'm going to listen to the How Did This Get Made track. Or I'm going to listen to, oh, there's like

Speaker 1 a guy who worked exclusively on

Speaker 1 practical effects on this movie. He talks his way through it.

Speaker 3 Because you can find sites that archive what the tracks are.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But like, yeah, it would be nice if there was a storehouse of what, not just descriptions of and which ones were worthwhile and ratings of them, but like, hey, here's how you can actually listen to all of these.

Speaker 3 That would be nice.

Speaker 2 Or even just as an alt audio licensing is impossible. I'm like Netflix.
I think that is the thing. Yeah.
It's just like a logistical nightmare. But I do, I used to love,

Speaker 2 you know, DVD commentaries were like some of the first podcasts I would like listen to. I would just like to kind of the original podcast.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Have you?

Speaker 1 I got to do one once.

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it sucked. I hated doing it, and I never want to do it again.

Speaker 2 Well, we're going to do it right now. All right.

Speaker 3 We also pulled our self-proclaimed from some other anime because we have not watched this in advance. That anime is what we've been weaving.

Speaker 1 What we've been weaving. Hi, it's me, Ash Ketchum from the world of Pokemon.
And I'm here to ask you the question of the week. What you been weaving?

Speaker 1 Nick Weiger, I choose you.

Speaker 3 Thanks so much, Ash. I said anime, but actually I've been weaving been a manga.
I read the Junji Ito manga, Gyo,

Speaker 3 which I would characterize as the complete opposite of the movie we're about to watch. This is a movie where sea life begin walking on the ground,

Speaker 3 and it leads to basically the complete destruction of society.

Speaker 3 There is a

Speaker 3 mechanical side to this that gets explored as the premise,

Speaker 3 you know, continues on. But so much of it is it starts where fish are walking, and then like larger sea creatures start walking, and then that leads to more things, you know, becoming

Speaker 3 like a

Speaker 3 kind of like in the zombified state walking on these mechanical rigs. But the big issue is that everything just smells like death, and just the death stench is permeating everywhere.

Speaker 3 Here's what I like about Junji Ito, besides like just the absolute grotesque imagery, which he is just the best at depicting.

Speaker 3 There was a manga panel I sent to the group chat from this that was just an absolute nightmare to look at. And it's not even the worst thing in the book.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to stop you right there for a second.

Speaker 2 That was one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 I hated looking at him. But he, I mean, you're about to say what you like about him.
One of the things I like about him is that this motherfucker's crazy. Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's sick shit.

Speaker 3 But I think the other thing is like, it's despite the grotesque, because it's nasty, but it's also like funny. It's both those things at once.

Speaker 1 What a funny market that guy has cornered. Yes.
Like it's like he is a brand name for making fucking awful shit.

Speaker 3 Well, you look at this, you look at this manga, and I honestly wonder if...

Speaker 3 There's elements that are commonalities with like the human centipede.

Speaker 3 And I would not be shocked if like a body horror, you know, a person, like, like, like someone who's crafting like something like the human centipede had like drawn on Juji Ito as a source because it is like, it's the same sort of shit.

Speaker 3 Anyway, the other thing is, like, his works don't really follow a traditional narrative. They almost have more of an anthology or even like a sketch feel.

Speaker 3 And it, it does make you think in terms of like, and this is like an improv principle, but you know, it's very much

Speaker 3 explored this way in this horror manga. If this, then what? And like, if this is true, then what else is true? If fish fish start walking on land, do they spell horrible?

Speaker 3 Then what else does that lead to? And this is just a sequence of that. Like each chapter in this manga is just like another consequence of,

Speaker 3 you know, these dominoes that are falling from the inciting incident.

Speaker 3 And it has just an incredibly bleak ending, which is just like, this is the thing.

Speaker 3 I think just a lot of times it's just like, hey, sometimes there's a disaster and we just live in the aftermath and that just becomes normalized. And then we just live in this awful new world.

Speaker 2 And you know what?

Speaker 3 That is very pertinent to now. That feels super contemporary.
That is like, feels like our experience of us like, hey, some new horrible thing is happening. And you know what?

Speaker 3 Now that's just going to happen all the time and no one's going to do anything about it. That's just a thing we're just going to get used to and become numb to.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 This, this new thing you just heard about, it's really bad and it's also too late. It's also too late.

Speaker 3 It's going to keep happening.

Speaker 3 But anyway, there is a film adaptation of this manga that I have to track down because I have no idea how you'd make this into a movie because it is insane. And I like, even, even like,

Speaker 3 not even, I don't even mean realizing it visually. I just mean like structuring it.
Like, I don't know how you adapt this without fundamentally changing its nature. And maybe that's what it does.

Speaker 3 And maybe that's from what I've read that the movie's not great. Maybe that's part of the reason.
But it's a really, really cool graphic novel, really, really cool manga. I'm glad I finally read it.

Speaker 3 Gio.

Speaker 2 Heather, what have you been weaving over there?

Speaker 1 I've read Gio. I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm really happy that you read it.

Speaker 1 I have a small Jinji Ito section on my manga bookshelf.

Speaker 1 Me as well.

Speaker 1 It's nice seeing him there because it always reminds you that there's worse things.

Speaker 1 So I guess speaking of bookshelves, what I've webed this week is a purchase. And it's been a while since I bought myself something

Speaker 1 like a figurine,

Speaker 1 a model kit, whatever. I've taken, I've been trying really hard.

Speaker 1 To uh, my goal has been to have my trash can half empty every week

Speaker 1 when I roll it out onto the street. So I'm trying to purchase less and less.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's an interesting approach. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I've some might think of it as half full.

Speaker 1 Right, sure. But I've, I've largely succeeded.
Like, I've, I've had like a

Speaker 1 two-bag

Speaker 1 like in a, in a, in a household with me and my wife, like a two-bag garbage rolled out on the street.

Speaker 3 Largely from being conscious of buying fewer things. Yes.

Speaker 1 Buying fewer things, buying fewer packages. Right.
Uh,

Speaker 1 uh, you know, going and getting a soup in a glass jar and bringing it back to the grocery store.

Speaker 2 Love doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I did make a purchase. And for this, for this setup here, I want to know if you guys are familiar with the viral video, Look at That Horse.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, I've seen Look at that horse.

Speaker 2 I don't think I know, Look at that horse.

Speaker 1 I think we should watch it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's throw it up there.

Speaker 1 Can you Google a video for us, Branch? Can you Google

Speaker 1 probably on YouTube? Look at that horse.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 The home shopping network. There's one on the top.

Speaker 3 Oh, we don't want to watch the Tosh.0 one

Speaker 1 18 years ago.

Speaker 5 Now, while we're doing that, let me show you something really impressive.

Speaker 5 That picture, remember the picture of the horse I showed you earlier? Well, here it is blown up.

Speaker 2 You fucking idiot.

Speaker 5 Order now. You get the camera, you get the printer.

Speaker 2 4X optical zoom.

Speaker 2 Snyder letters.

Speaker 2 Photo printer.

Speaker 5 SD card. Look at that horse.

Speaker 2 Why won't he just say that it's wrong?

Speaker 5 The hooves.

Speaker 5 Okay, my producer, Tara Cates, just told me this isn't a horse, it's a butterfly.

Speaker 5 Actually, it may in fact be a moth. But look at what the Zoom did.

Speaker 2 I mean, you can see details in the animal. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Really good.

Speaker 2 So, to ask a question that probably nobody nobody knows the answer to, did he think that was a horse for real or what happened?

Speaker 1 It's an incomprehensible clip. That's what makes it funny.

Speaker 1 The more times you watch it, the less you can understand what is happening because he gestures. Like, when he's like, look at this horse, you imagine him behind the image.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But then he starts pointing. to parts of a butterfly and saying, look at the hooves,

Speaker 1 the beautiful mane, and he's pointing to a butterfly. And then somebody tells him that it's not a horse.

Speaker 2 And he kind of sounds like he doesn't believe it. Yeah.
He's like, my producer's telling me this is a butterfly.

Speaker 2 Also,

Speaker 2 I feel like I have to point this out. This is the hardest ranch has laughed at anything we've ever done on the show.

Speaker 1 Well, in the

Speaker 3 so now Look at That Horse has become a Beyoncé thing

Speaker 3 because she says, Look at that horse

Speaker 3 in

Speaker 3 a song in Cowboy Carter. Oh, well, interesting.

Speaker 2 She's the episode.

Speaker 1 The original 18 years ago clip on YouTube. Look at that horse, a Schneider lens.
Look at that horse.

Speaker 1 So, in honor of that, and in honor of bookshelves, we were talking about earlier, I bought something from my bookshelf,

Speaker 1 which is a colossal,

Speaker 1 ostentatious

Speaker 1 sculpture

Speaker 1 of my friend, Char Asnable.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 Riding a horse.

Speaker 2 Wow. Look at that horse.
Look at that horse.

Speaker 1 At that horse.

Speaker 1 It is an enormous sculpture, which I did get permission from my wife to purchase.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to. How big are you talking?

Speaker 1 Chest-sized.

Speaker 2 Wow. So it's like as big as your Godzilla? It is.

Speaker 1 It is a huge

Speaker 2 horse that was cool there

Speaker 1 but yeah i uh i i i purchased this because i i i showed it to my wife and i went look at this horse she didn't know what i was doing uh and she went oh that's kind of cool because we have like a rustic look on our book in our library area and she's like do you think we should have that in the library and i was like

Speaker 1 I do,

Speaker 1 but I didn't think you would. And she's like, I think you should get that char sculpture.

Speaker 3 That's nice.

Speaker 2 That's really, really good.

Speaker 1 So I have this enormous char on a horse.

Speaker 2 Great looking sculpture. I'm looking at the scale here between Char and the horse.
And it is.

Speaker 2 Here's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 I don't think horses are scary.

Speaker 2 But I can see how somebody might think they're scary because they're fucking massive. They're so fucking big.
Huge.

Speaker 1 But also, Char is a little guy. Is he a little guy?

Speaker 1 He is canonically a little guy.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 And this horse is so big that I think Char's shoulder would be below the back of the horse if he was standing. Because it's a big horse.
It's a big fucking horse.

Speaker 2 But horses in general, you know, I guess I'm a little guy myself.

Speaker 3 Horses are pretty big.

Speaker 2 They're too big.

Speaker 3 I don't like big because they could kill you with a single kick.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. They're scary as shit.

Speaker 1 I've seen, you know, all of the Char media that exists. I cannot recall him riding a horse,

Speaker 1 which is also part of why this is incredible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that rocks.

Speaker 2 The thing is, the horse looks real.

Speaker 1 The horse is photorealistic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a really impressive horse. Char is there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a horse that evokes like the Michelangelo horses or the Da Vinci horses. Like it's a veiny, muscular, like writhing, sweating,

Speaker 1 salivating horse.

Speaker 2 A vascular, turgid, pumping horse.

Speaker 1 And then Char is also realistically sculpted. Like there's folds in his fabric.
His glove is delicately pulling on the reins of the horse. He is expressionless as always.
But it is Char.

Speaker 1 He's got like a

Speaker 1 cartoon man's head.

Speaker 2 Either way, really cool. A guy like this rides up on a horse to you.
You know you're already fucking dead. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing you can do.
You're in trouble.

Speaker 1 And so that's also why when he doesn't do anything, you're confused and a little bit hypnotized. What is this guy's plan? What does he want? That's the essence of Char Asnabel.

Speaker 2 I'm glad you have that. Yeah, that's grad.
That's rad.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put it right. I have the, you know, the actual helmet.

Speaker 3 Like

Speaker 3 a human scale helmet.

Speaker 1 Wait, you guys didn't know this?

Speaker 2 I wear it to work.

Speaker 2 I wear it to work. You wear this clothes this before, but I wear it.

Speaker 1 I have the replica char helmet, which can fit on your head.

Speaker 2 How have you not been on the news?

Speaker 2 Local women seen wearing giant helmet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I've worn it to work. It's fun to wear.

Speaker 3 As like an accent, as like a part of your wardrobe, or like as a bicycle helmet?

Speaker 1 No, I don't want to ride a bike in that helmet. I'll die.
You can barely see out of it. Wow.
No, it's like I bring it, I put it on when I'm, when I'm stuck.

Speaker 2 Got it.

Speaker 1 To

Speaker 1 be fun,

Speaker 1 to be like, ah, maybe, maybe I'll put on the char helmet and think better.

Speaker 2 Break people.

Speaker 1 Think three times faster.

Speaker 2 I can see myself doing like the exact same thing and people being like, don't do that. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 It's helpful when the helmet is

Speaker 1 not anything. Like if you put on a Vader helmet, people are like, yeah.

Speaker 2 But the char helmet is not. It's a fucking chewbacca.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The char helmet, nobody knows what it is, really. So it's just like, what is that?

Speaker 2 What is she doing? It's possible it's an heirloom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think I'm going to put the horse next to the helmet.

Speaker 2 I think you should do the show in the helmet sometime.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no problem. Tell you what.

Speaker 3 I want to see this horse in person.

Speaker 2 Love to take a look at this horse. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if I'll care. I mean, maybe I.

Speaker 3 No, you don't need to bring it in, but I'm just saying, like, wherever over at your place, again, I'll take a look at that horse.

Speaker 2 Nick's promising to take a look, to look at one thing in your home.

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Speaker 1 You guys should come over and play 32X, which is my transition to

Speaker 1 Sonic the Hedgehog, the movie. Wow.

Speaker 3 1996. Sonic the Hedgehog.
This is an OVA that was released in 1996. It was a two-part OVA in Japan that was re-edited into a short, self-contained movie for American release.

Speaker 3 The runtime is about 53 minutes.

Speaker 1 I just had a full existential crisis in that moment of quiet because I realized when I said you guys should come over and play 32X, that that is a question I have been asking people since I was a child and nobody ever has.

Speaker 2 I would happily do that anytime. I'd love to come play 32X.

Speaker 2 Anyway, sounds like a hoop. Yeah.
You have two controllers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've got two controllers.

Speaker 1 And the Sonic game for 32X, Knuckles Chaotix, is two people on screen at the same time with a rubberband style effect between them, and you have to cooperate to get through the levels.

Speaker 2 Baffling. That sounds crazy.

Speaker 1 It's weird.

Speaker 2 Sounds chaotic.

Speaker 1 It is chaotics.

Speaker 3 It was a tough problem to solve. I mean, because

Speaker 3 they do the split screen, but on that CRT, you'd have so little real estate to work with. And was it Sonic 2 where you'd get super squished your proportions? I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it just didn't didn't really look like that.

Speaker 2 So Knuckles Chaotix makes it you can't move away from your partner.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 there are a number of games that did that. And

Speaker 3 it works a little bit better if it's like top-down or isometric.

Speaker 3 When it's a side-scroll, it's a little clunky. All right, let's watch this OVA.

Speaker 3 I will say this was apparently positively received and very commercially successful in the home video market in the U.S.

Speaker 3 Because kids were like Sonic and parents are like, all right, I will buy the Sonic movie that this kid can re-watch, you know, 20 times.

Speaker 3 It was also the first Sonic property in North America to not feature Jaleel White in the title role. Oh, it is.
The first non-Jalil Sonic.

Speaker 3 Unfortunately, a harbinger of things to come.

Speaker 1 So I assume we're watching the dub then.

Speaker 3 I'm almost positive this is the dubbed version that's going to open up.

Speaker 3 We are going to count down. I've never seen this before.
Has anyone seen this?

Speaker 2 No, no. I have to say.

Speaker 3 Okay, we're going to count down from three to one and begin this OVA. Here we go.
Three, two,

Speaker 3 one,

Speaker 2 go.

Speaker 3 I should have said Sega.

Speaker 3 Great talkie corporation logo and sting there. That's great.
That is wonderful.

Speaker 2 Didn't know they'd branched out into chips. Talkie corporation.

Speaker 1 Corporation is such a great word to have before a movie. It's one of my favorite words.

Speaker 3 All right. So we've got some shots of monitors here.
We've got some just sort of like, you know, this is not the highest quality transfer.

Speaker 2 Looks like Metal Sonic. Yeah, Metal Sonic is a part of this.

Speaker 2 So far,

Speaker 1 Metal Sonic is from Sega CD. He isn't Mecha Sonic.
That is a different character. Metal Sonic has the turbo intake on his chest.

Speaker 1 And you raced against him to save Sally.

Speaker 3 He's also not Sonic's metal dad, Jules.

Speaker 3 He has a robot dad.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Robotnik is now, we're hearing his VO talking about, as we're seeing his silhouette, his hyper metal Sonic.

Speaker 1 So far, this is going to be deployed.

Speaker 2 This is great. This is really, really good.

Speaker 1 This is astonishing.

Speaker 3 Sonic the Hedgehog Sting.

Speaker 2 Also,

Speaker 1 The music, pretty evocative of actual Sonic music.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is great.

Speaker 3 We got a little saxophone look here.

Speaker 1 Okay, some.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know this character on sight. This is some sort of owl who is piloting a single-person aircraft above the clouds.

Speaker 1 Well, there's like

Speaker 1 a fork in the road in Sonic Canon in the games, even, because the Sega CD game became sort of non-

Speaker 1 it was like canonic-esque.

Speaker 1 uh and like big the cat all those characters are on the like main timeline

Speaker 3 sonic is enjoying a little vacay

Speaker 3 tails has a hoverboard it looks like Sonic looks very cool with his sunglasses

Speaker 2 got a soda there sonic looks awesome he's so fucking cool.

Speaker 3 He's got those big ass, like when back when the

Speaker 3 regular Sunnys were just like what you would wear on the ski slopes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Very 90s look.

Speaker 2 They knew he snapped on his character design, honestly. They really Sonic rocks.

Speaker 1 I really like Sonic before the Dreamcast redesign. That, like, the retro look of Sonic

Speaker 1 without the like long spikes. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Look how much fun Tails is having.

Speaker 3 Well, there have been some also the

Speaker 3 one continuous eyeball is a thing, right? Like at a certain point, they cleave them into two distinct eyeballs, but I do like the one big eyeball.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 With two pupils.

Speaker 2 Disgusting.

Speaker 3 Well, when you think about what you're actually seeing, yeah, it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 How this is the character science.

Speaker 2 On the original version of our show said it probably stinks. And it's something I think about so much.

Speaker 2 A lot of the characters in this, like

Speaker 2 Sonic is a good character. Tails is a very good character.
I kind of think this guy sucks based on how he looks. Owl? Yeah.
Owl. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop owl?

Speaker 2 Where did that come from, by the way, where owls are like so smart and collegiate?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 3 They look like it.

Speaker 2 They look like they're up to something.

Speaker 1 I gotta say, I'm extremely disappointed in the tone shift from that hard as fuck ice cold cold open.

Speaker 2 I'm excited because that means it's gonna

Speaker 2 something's it's gonna go down.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, this is like Saturday morning cartoon like Tom Foolery. Tails is flying after the

Speaker 3 aircraft with the owl that is

Speaker 3 on fire.

Speaker 2 But I'm still just kicking it. I'm about to be in my Sebastian Maniscalco bag real quick.
Why is the owl find a fucking airplane? You can fly.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 And where's all that smoke coming from?

Speaker 2 My mom's lasagna.

Speaker 1 Why is an owl that already has giant eyes wearing glasses to make his eyes big?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And why are none of these characters wearing clothes?

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 He's wearing shoes. Shover up.

Speaker 2 So Sonic's running.

Speaker 1 That small bit of animation there is from the Sega CD opening. That first shot, they just lifted, which is pretty nice.
Same with this.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 Those are pulled from the Sega CD intro.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 Sonic is running along the sides of a canyon. And then he casually rescued both Tails and the Owl.

Speaker 1 I wonder if this company that made this is the company that did the full animation for the front of Sonic CD.

Speaker 3 We could try to find out.

Speaker 2 Do you think it's a coincidence that these flowers look like Sonic?

Speaker 2 What the hell?

Speaker 3 Someone drew the background independently. He's like, ah, fuck.

Speaker 2 Ah, shit.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 90s dubbed anime is so insane.

Speaker 2 How do you mean?

Speaker 1 It's just like people being like, whoa, what are you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. You got to be careful over there.
Well, I'm not going to be careful.

Speaker 2 Like, it's just like,

Speaker 1 it's not, it's not like people emoting. It's just.

Speaker 2 I see.

Speaker 1 It's very weird.

Speaker 2 Just talking to fill the space.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I wonder if there was a little bit in the dubbing process of too much adherence to like, well, we got to get lip flap right. Like, that's the most important part.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that.

Speaker 3 And like the spirit of the performance, the original performance, which maybe a lot of times they didn't even have as source, you know, like I don't know how much isolation these voiceover artists were working in, trying to dub these things.

Speaker 1 What I like about the look of this is that it looks like the games, whereas the Saturday morning show did not look like the games at all.

Speaker 1 Like, this has the aesthetic, like the checkerboard print aesthetic of

Speaker 1 a Sonic game.

Speaker 2 Sonic's like, okay, you crashed your plane here. I'm going to get in my plane and leave and leave your asshole here.

Speaker 1 Cocky asshole that he's just standing on top of the plane.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm not going to fall. Don't worry about me.

Speaker 1 He's like arms crossed on top of a plane.

Speaker 2 He's kind of the coolest guy that's ever lived.

Speaker 1 They are flying to floating islands, the world of Pandora,

Speaker 1 which has now been colonized.

Speaker 2 God, yeah, look at it.

Speaker 1 And has beautiful, uh, retro-futuristic buildings and the White House.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like a nice U.S. Capitol just sitting pretty.

Speaker 2 Sonic's like, I gotta go talk to the president.

Speaker 1 Oh, I guess Robotnik, Dr. Robotnik is the president?

Speaker 2 Oh my god.

Speaker 2 There's fucking, oh my, like metal guys that were shooting at them and they read, they made quick work of them, of course.

Speaker 3 You know what I'll say about this OVA?

Speaker 3 Like Sonic himself, it's got to go fast. It is just moving.
Like, we're just like, you know what? Sonic Tails and Robotnik, they're all together. They're all in the same room.
No, who gives a shit?

Speaker 3 People piece together.

Speaker 2 He's so. I love Dr.
Robotnik. He's such a funny character.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 this OVA was done by Piero, is a Japanese animation studio.

Speaker 3 Apparently, the animation from Sonic CD was done by a different studio,

Speaker 3 a lesser-known studio that is called Studio Junio.

Speaker 3 So, but maybe they were drawing from the same source.

Speaker 1 It looked like it was just literally pulled from it. Like they traced.

Speaker 2 Maybe they traced it.

Speaker 1 They might have just, you know, if you have like a moment where Sonic is like wagging his finger and you want to put it in the movie, why not just have it look exactly like that? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, so they got to go to Robotropolis.

Speaker 1 So Robotnik has a city and then there's somebody else who's attacking it and it's different robots. So is Robotnik going to be on Sonic's side in this movie?

Speaker 2 It's possible. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Speaker 1 I don't think so because we saw him designing

Speaker 2 Metal Sonic in the beginning.

Speaker 1 So all this is lies.

Speaker 3 It's lies, and it could be as a way to kind of like do a frame-up sort of job or put him into a conflict with Metal Sonic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe he's going to make Metal Sonic do something bad and be like, That was the real Sonic after. Yeah,

Speaker 2 always a fun device.

Speaker 3 Like, the baby Bowser, you know, in disguise as Mario gets him arrested in Mario Sunshine, or that evil Kermit from Muppets Most Wanted.

Speaker 2 Oh, right.

Speaker 1 I like that Robotnik was describing his plan, and everybody, including robots, fell asleep.

Speaker 2 Savage.

Speaker 1 There is a human woman in this room and nobody else looks like a human being. No.

Speaker 3 For a second, I thought you meant ranch.

Speaker 2 I was like, what a weird thing to say.

Speaker 2 No, there's like a human. Yeah, I know, I get it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she looks in the show.

Speaker 1 And then like Robotnik is a circle, and this other guy looks like he's from

Speaker 2 Rescue Rangers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he does. He looks like a like a character, like a an an anthropomorphic animal of some sort.
I guess she does have. No, those aren't ears.
That's a big bow.

Speaker 2 She's like a sort of like proto

Speaker 2 Aerith. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, very much, very Aerith coated.

Speaker 3 Okay, so apparently,

Speaker 3 I'm just, I'm trying not to be in the, you know, be in the weeds too much here, looking this up, but apparently they may have drawn on

Speaker 3 art by Hizashi Eguchi, who is an illustrator and an animator who, I guess, conceived a lot of the animation that was used in Sonic CD.

Speaker 3 Even if he's not, wasn't at the studio that actually did it. He may have like storyboarded out or drawn some keyframes or whatever.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear what the mission is, but they're on the mission.

Speaker 2 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 It's fine. We get it.

Speaker 3 Sonic's casually standing on top of Tails' biplane.

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't want to spoil this or anything, but Sonic's going to win, right? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 He's also not going to fall face forward into that propeller blade, which

Speaker 3 laws of physics maybe suggest you might do. We have a fake fighting game within this.

Speaker 2 It's like a training sim, perhaps.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Robotnik is fighting.

Speaker 2 Oh, I see. They're playing.

Speaker 1 Robotnik is playing.

Speaker 3 He's playing against Aerith

Speaker 3 in this.

Speaker 1 There's Sega controller on the ground. I like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're using, they were playing on a Sega console,

Speaker 3 a game where their characters look eerily like themselves. And that's continuing.
And Robotnik is just dominating.

Speaker 2 I like that it did cut back to Sonic on the plane, and he looked bored. It's just a long flight.

Speaker 1 It's a holographic game.

Speaker 2 See, that's it.

Speaker 2 That's what it is.

Speaker 1 It shines the characters into the circle in the middle, which was a Sega technology from the 90s.

Speaker 3 What the hell was that game game called? Not Time Crisis, Time Something.

Speaker 2 Time Warrior.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Time Machine thing, right?

Speaker 2 Travel one. Yeah, I saw that recently.
I can't remember what it's called.

Speaker 2 They have one at Barcade in Highland Park.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Time to make a trek.

Speaker 2 I love

Speaker 2 the Barcades, R.I.P. Button Mash, of course.

Speaker 2 That closed? It closed. It closed, came back after COVID, and now they officially closed it.

Speaker 3 Oh, it closed again.

Speaker 3 Because I knew it came back. I didn't didn't know it closed again.

Speaker 1 The Highland Park Barcade has some very strange cuts,

Speaker 1 which is what makes it a good barcade. It's not just, oh, it's the Simpsons and Ninja Turtles and Street Fighter.
They've got shit that's like, what, like, what is this game?

Speaker 1 At one point, they had Moonwalker.

Speaker 2 Yes. But they also have, I mean, this is similar to that too.
They have the X-Men arcade game on one long screen, which rocks. That's cool.

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 3 The Sega-published hologram

Speaker 3 time traveler game from the arcade. Would you believe that the title of that game was Time Traveler?

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Speaker 1 Sonic and Tails have flown to a distant land, crashed Tails' plane, and now they have to make their way. Oh, the land of darkness is what it's called.

Speaker 2 No disrespect to the

Speaker 2 voice actors.

Speaker 2 Sonic doesn't sound like this.

Speaker 1 What do you think Sonic sounds like?

Speaker 2 He sounds cooler than this to me.

Speaker 3 He's kind of like a punk brat more here, I think a little bit.

Speaker 2 He's like Bart Simpson.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a little bit cool kid as opposed to like cool dude.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or bad boy, I guess I should say.

Speaker 1 Now they're just running on screen.

Speaker 2 They're doing a level. I love this.
This rocks.

Speaker 3 They're just running. They were just doing side-scrolling platforming, jumping over spikes.
Just Sonic and Tails. That was awesome.

Speaker 2 I haven't spent a ton of time with Tails. And they just did up to the jump on one of those spring things.

Speaker 2 But I got to say, I think I love Tails.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Tails is great.

Speaker 1 This sequence is awesome. They're just animating what your imagination thinks a Sonic level looks and feels like, which in the 90s was probably really fun for AJ.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if I was like nine watching this in 1996, I'd be like, this is the fucking best movie I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm thinking it right now.

Speaker 2 This, to me, I think is

Speaker 2 the benefit, one of the benefits that

Speaker 2 people who identify as Sonic kids get to have because Mario fans didn't really have anything as good as even now

Speaker 2 for a long time.

Speaker 3 We had the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, which was not at all on this level.

Speaker 1 I think that this movie came out before Sonic and Knuckles because Sonic also, when he's really sped up, is using the Sega CD animation of like the Infinity symbol for his legs,

Speaker 1 which is taken out permanently after Sonic and Knuckles.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 So I think that this was being

Speaker 1 made at the same time.

Speaker 2 And if Knuckles was

Speaker 2 out,

Speaker 2 if people knew about Knuckles, he'd be in the movie. He'd be in this.
Right.

Speaker 3 I like that these backgrounds are The Last of Us. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just these buildings with overgrown plant life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sonic and Tails went to New York, and it's post-apocalypse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What if the live-action Sonic movies were this? And it's just like, what the hell? This is crazy.

Speaker 3 Do you know what this whole sequence is it's the part because we already referenced avatar it's the part in avatar way of water when they're just like swimming

Speaker 2 you're watching this for 20 minutes like they're just swimming around like all right yeah sure why not i i mean i love that

Speaker 1 there's a a fight that james cameron got in with i think the studio or fox or the public whoever whoever it is that he gets notes from because they were like you have to take out the flying sequence?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he was like, no.

Speaker 1 And they were like, but what? It doesn't do anything for the plot. And he's like, it's the pleasure of flight.
It stays in the movie.

Speaker 2 Because they've introduced Metal Robotnik here. Oh.

Speaker 2 This is what that's a really cool character design. This is the problem with when you start doing metal characters.
Of course, you try to make a metal version of the hero.

Speaker 2 There's going to be a metal version of the villain as well.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a ratchet effect.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I love that, though. I love his big round body.
I love his huge shoulders.

Speaker 2 I like his big gun.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the big, he's got like a

Speaker 3 chain gun in his right arm.

Speaker 2 Sonic just said, we don't have time to mess around with some robot. That's all you do.

Speaker 2 What else you got going on?

Speaker 3 Sitting on the beach with a soda?

Speaker 2 Come on. I guess if that's, you're pulled away from that, I'd I'd be wanting to get back to that too.

Speaker 1 I wish I knew why they were in New York.

Speaker 1 I really missed it. Yeah.
Oh my gosh. Holy shit.

Speaker 3 Oh, he's got bat wings.

Speaker 1 Metal Robotnik has jet-propelled flesh bat wings.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Those are organic matter. Love that.

Speaker 2 They fly now. This is what they fly now.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 I saw a TikTok that was like,

Speaker 1 you realize that

Speaker 1 every single Star Wars piece of media that has come out since Rise of Skywalker is only being used to explain how Palpatine returned.

Speaker 2 It is the plot of

Speaker 1 the Mandalorian. It's the plot of Ahsoka.

Speaker 1 It is the plot of everything that Star Wars has put out is basically to be like, make this make sense.

Speaker 3 It's the plot of The Mandalorian. I guess guess I didn't follow the Mandalorian, really.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they're using baby Yoda blood to like make.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's what that is? Yep.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. I did not piece it together.

Speaker 2 You pointed out the infinity symbol when he's running. I'm sad that that's gone.
Yeah. I really like how that looks.
It looks cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This was a really cool chase sequence. They were running and they ran to the literal end of the road.

Speaker 2 And his feet were hot. Looking into the barrel of a gun.

Speaker 2 They can't swim because of the game.

Speaker 1 Metal Robotnik just shot a gun point blank into the faces of animal children.

Speaker 2 But they're okay still.

Speaker 3 That's a good point, though, Matt. Like them just sort of saying, hey, I know you can't swim because in the games you fall into water, you die.
That's another thing I think the kids would appreciate.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, this is really working. He can't swim.

Speaker 2 I know he can't.

Speaker 3 See, it's like in the game.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you, when I saw Sonic 2 in the theater by myself with all the dads and their children, the post-credits tease where they tease

Speaker 2 Shadow.

Speaker 2 I, along with all the other children in the theater, gasped.

Speaker 3 What was the Super Mario Brothers movie tease?

Speaker 2 Was it Yoshi? A Yoshi egg, yeah.

Speaker 3 It's all right, I guess.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Shadow.

Speaker 2 I wanted Wario. Oh, man.
Imagine Wario. Yeah.
Wario is going to be the next one.

Speaker 1 I mean, if they make enough of them, Wario will be in one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 man, it's Knuckles.

Speaker 1 But he only appeared for like a million years.

Speaker 2 I feel so excited

Speaker 2 to see second friend Knuckles.

Speaker 2 He's wearing his cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 Was that like a wizard-style teaser? That like

Speaker 1 Knuckles might be in future games?

Speaker 2 This was Boba Fett in the Star Wars Christmas special.

Speaker 3 So Tails is lacquered with goo to a chain link fence.

Speaker 2 I'd hate to be lacquered with goo.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't want to be stuck with goo to anything.

Speaker 3 Sonic is trying to free him.

Speaker 1 This is Sonic's experience is the first time you fight a boss in one of these games, and you're like, I don't know what the fuck it is now.

Speaker 2 I was just a Jew.

Speaker 2 I was chilling a second ago. Now I gotta fight.

Speaker 2 That's such a good

Speaker 2 way to stop them because obviously speed is their number one thing. How do you stop something that's so fast? You make them stuck.
Knuckles to the rescue. Knuckles.

Speaker 2 Can Knuckles fly?

Speaker 1 Knuckles is in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he can kind of fly. Huh.

Speaker 1 He just, Knuckles just pulled Tails from the Xenomorph wall where he was going to be facebook.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 3 like you can't like fly-fly, but like the way he jumps is like, you know, has a little bit different physics.

Speaker 2 A little bit of momentum. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, God, I didn't realize that's what happened to Sonic that he's glued to the ground underneath the water.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 While it's rising. That's horrible.

Speaker 2 What a horrible way to die. I think he should bring his knuckles hat back.

Speaker 2 He doesn't really wear that. That is awesome.
I think he wears it in the show, in a live-action show, which I still haven't seen.

Speaker 2 I should do that before the new movie comes out so I can be caught up on what's going on with those guys.

Speaker 3 The hat is red, and this is also from the era when they, like Tether's point, they haven't really established what Knuckles is yet. So they're kind of like, I don't know, he wears a hat, I guess.

Speaker 3 I don't fucking know.

Speaker 2 He's like poochy, kind of.

Speaker 2 I think this is my favorite thing we've ever watched. This is really good.

Speaker 3 Rochelle, are you following along how

Speaker 3 you liked in the Sonic the Hedgehog OBA so far?

Speaker 1 This is my first Sonic the Hedgehog content of any sort.

Speaker 2 That feature.

Speaker 1 This is not a good introduction to something.

Speaker 3 I think it's a pretty good introduction to that.

Speaker 2 It's pretty good, yeah.

Speaker 3 Gives you the shorthand of who everyone is.

Speaker 3 That's wild. I'm surprised.
I would have thought you would have watched a cartoon or seen one of the movies are certainly.

Speaker 1 I just missed everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Ranch, after this is over, we have something to show you, actually. It's the theme song to an incredible Sonic cartoon.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Have we not done Sonic the Underground, the theme song with you in the room?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Okay, so you're

Speaker 2 first ever piece of Sonic media.

Speaker 2 That's a good introduction. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who is this lady in the mini skirt?

Speaker 3 She was in earlier.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but who is she?

Speaker 3 I don't know exactly what her status is.

Speaker 2 There's probably some dialogue we were talking over. That she's like

Speaker 2 why Amy Rose exists.

Speaker 1 It's because Sonic wanted to fuck a hot girl. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they were like, we got to make a headshot version of this.

Speaker 2 They were drawing her, and they're like, wait, instead of drawing some like hot girl, why don't we draw a hot girl that like Sonic wants to fuck?

Speaker 3 I guess I could look at the plot summary of this.

Speaker 1 Why would you read ahead?

Speaker 3 No, I'm just to try to find out who the woman is.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 That's the president's daughter.

Speaker 2 That's Robotnik's daughter? No.

Speaker 3 Robotnik has taken the president, who is the big guy, the big buffoon-looking guy, and his daughter, Sarah, prisoner. And so that's Robotnik's

Speaker 3 charge right now.

Speaker 2 This OVA got one thing right in how they depict the president of the United States. Thank you.

Speaker 3 All right, now it looks like we're approaching Casino Night Zone or something like it, some sort of

Speaker 3 future city.

Speaker 3 Maybe this is more of a chemical plant zone. I don't know exactly where we are.

Speaker 1 Like, Knuckles just hovers in this. It's very weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know that he does that.

Speaker 3 I gave it a little bit of leeway, but, like, it's, yeah, they're, they're

Speaker 2 really rich.

Speaker 1 Sonic still has to, like, hold Tail's hand, but Knuckles just hovers like a god.

Speaker 3 So they're going to Robotnik City, it looks like. It's kind of like the, the, the biff future of Back to the Future Part 2.
There's a huge Dr. Robotnik

Speaker 1 Robotropolis.

Speaker 3 Robotropolis. That's where we are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Robotropolis.

Speaker 2 I think about the casino level in Sonic 2 because I never played it before until we had done it on the show.

Speaker 2 And I still think that it's maybe the single greatest level of any video game I've ever played.

Speaker 3 It's really good. You know what? I will say that there is a Astro Bot, which we have talked about in the main feed.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Is

Speaker 3 has a casino level that I think is

Speaker 3 really well done.

Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3 And super fun. And it has that same sort of feeling of like

Speaker 3 just controlled chaos.

Speaker 1 I like how much of this movie is side-scrolling animation of them doing level stuff, right?

Speaker 3 So it looks like the core of Robotropolis that they were looking to destroy also has a robotnick face on it, which is fun.

Speaker 2 This like bad guy that like puts his name and face all over his stuff. Yeah, who could consider that? Yeah, what does that remind me of?

Speaker 2 Doesn't ring a bell.

Speaker 1 The truth is, until you said that, it had never occurred to me.

Speaker 1 Never, ever had it occurred to me that that is something we have been programmed since we were children to associate with evil.

Speaker 1 That is fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 3 Wow, the whole city grid has been shut down. Now, this is one of those things where, like, I get that you're trying to take down Robotnik, but also this could be a humanitarian crisis.

Speaker 3 Yeah, absolutely. Meanwhile, the civilians were just suddenly deprived of power in a society regarding dependent on electricity, take down the whole fucking power grid.
Hospitals are offline.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that is a real, that's an absolute disaster. And now gravity seems to not work.

Speaker 1 Knuckles just buildings collapsing. Knuckles just saved Sonic.

Speaker 1 It was very

Speaker 1 great scene for the shippers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, really good.

Speaker 1 They've destroyed Robotnik's main machine, killed the power grid, and now it looks like Akira is being summoned.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is the birth of a god.

Speaker 1 Except in the middle, it's Metal Sonic.

Speaker 1 Very Mew.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're right. Very Mew, yeah.
More Mew.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coming out of just a

Speaker 3 pulsing womb that was at at the core of this

Speaker 3 power plant.

Speaker 3 There he is, face to face with Sonic.

Speaker 2 Thanks, Tails.

Speaker 1 He looks fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 Tails said, he does look awesome. Tails just said, it's a robot that looks exactly like Sonic.

Speaker 2 Somebody watching this, what am I looking at here? Well, you know what? This is the sort of thing.

Speaker 3 It seems silly, but in its defense, I understand if you're making something for children, yeah that's the kind of thing that you underline because also it makes the kid feel smart so like i yeah i know it's it is absolutely i mean hey i feel like a goddamn genius

Speaker 1 he's way ahead of you tails these are ghosts like we are also seeing souls sort of

Speaker 1 uh coming like like being summoned by

Speaker 2 Is and Tails refers to them as ghosts.

Speaker 2 Is it possible that just based on the way Knuckles was standing with his

Speaker 2 head on his hand or his hand on his hat, is it possible that he's the hardest motherfucker that's ever lived?

Speaker 2 He's just like not scared.

Speaker 3 Robot ghosts is an interesting concept.

Speaker 2 I've heard of ghosts in the show, but this is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 The whole time that all of this action is happening, Metal Sonic is just staring at Sonic from like an inch away.

Speaker 3 Now we're getting some fan service with the.

Speaker 2 She has a tail? She has a tail.

Speaker 3 So she is a little bit of some sort of an animal character.

Speaker 2 Sort of like a Goku?

Speaker 2 Goku has a tail.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know. I guess so.
I guess some sort of like primate creature.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 Robotnik was teamed up with the daughter of the president operating Metal Robotnik.

Speaker 3 He's, yeah, he's like using her to his own ends.

Speaker 3 I assume in the same way they were playing the video game together, now they're like mutually operating

Speaker 3 Metal Robotnik.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 Sonic's fast. He could be faster in this, I think.

Speaker 1 Hyper Metal Sonic fucking rules.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 I can't say it enough. It's so cool looking at him.

Speaker 2 It looks so different than everything else on screen. It's really, really cool.

Speaker 3 This movie's good.

Speaker 2 This is something absolutely, this is fantastic.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if it's just that

Speaker 2 Sonic is good and we like Sonic, but like, this is good.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of Sonic stuff we could watch that would not be good. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 No, I think this is well executed.

Speaker 3 It's also like pretty straightforward in terms of what's going on.

Speaker 3 And then it also just moves at a good clip.

Speaker 3 Like, why can't, why, you know, not everything needs to be hyper metal

Speaker 1 red eyes.

Speaker 1 Very like Akuma right before he does like his finishing move.

Speaker 2 He looks mean. Really cool.

Speaker 1 He's a full-blown airplane jet.

Speaker 2 He has a turbine That's awesome.

Speaker 3 That's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the animation goes like way harder than it needs to, also, in this, where, like, the background will suddenly completely collapse, and every individual piece is animated.

Speaker 2 Really, really good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, some of this is like, it look looks a little bit, hey, a little cheap, but other parts of it is like they, they, like, oh, this is what we're going to commit our resources to.

Speaker 3 Because, you know, some of the movement is like, oh, that this is, like, animated in fours or something, you know, that there aren't a lot of frames here. Um, that was just like a still, you know,

Speaker 3 cell moving over a background. But other stuff is just like, oh, they got some real detail into it.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, Metal Sonic's gonna like murder regular Sonic.

Speaker 2 That's rad.

Speaker 1 Sonic's been incapacitated, and Metal Sonic is dragging him by the leg into the sky.

Speaker 1 Tails is trying to help.

Speaker 1 And suddenly Knuckles can't fly anymore.

Speaker 3 Knuckles' voice is very strange.

Speaker 1 You mean because it's not Idris Elba?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, also, it's just like

Speaker 3 it doesn't feel like committed to one direction or another.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I could tell you what I think Knuckles sounds like pre-Idris Elba. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's such a strong performance that it has become the sort of de facto version of him.

Speaker 3 I like that Robotnik doesn't seem horny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he just, he doesn't even seem like he's like that bad.

Speaker 3 There could be a version of this where he's like pervy towards the president's daughter, but he more just sort of seems like, you know, no, you're along for the the ride with me.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 oh my god, oh my god,

Speaker 3 whoa, holy shit, Metal Sonic just fucking roundhouse kicked Sonic while he's upside down,

Speaker 3 kicked him off a fucking mountaintop.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 he did it by not by moving his leg, but by rotating his entire body at the neck, yeah, in full view of the planet Saturn.

Speaker 3 So, Robotnik and the president's daughter

Speaker 3 are, I guess, just observing through their,

Speaker 3 you know, aircraft.

Speaker 3 And Tails is

Speaker 3 Tails and Knuckles, I guess, are just fleeing through a warp.

Speaker 1 They left Sonic's corpse in New York City and returned to Hawaii.

Speaker 3 I love this background.

Speaker 3 Planet in the background.

Speaker 2 Looks like

Speaker 2 holy shit owls hanging on the same way

Speaker 2 metal sonic's gonna kill me

Speaker 2 i've been so scared for a character i didn't like that much

Speaker 2 oh my gosh jesus christ

Speaker 2 metal sonic just left

Speaker 3 a grease stain of just like

Speaker 2 feathers and blood yeah

Speaker 2 turned him into one of those weird owl shits of his own body

Speaker 3 tides are gonna wash him away.

Speaker 2 Sonic's in fucking hell or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Sonic's in a forest.

Speaker 1 And he has no idea how he got there. And neither do we.

Speaker 3 Can I just say the president

Speaker 3 needs to tone down his wardrobe a little bit. He looks like a tinpot dictator.

Speaker 3 You can't be wearing the admiral's coat and the full sash if you want to be like a present yourself as a democratically elected leader.

Speaker 2 And then also he thinks dumb shit to himself, sees a bunch of destruction, a bunch of like buildings toppled, knows that there's a fucking metal robotnik, and he's like, I wonder if he did this.

Speaker 1 The owl

Speaker 1 is actually cool? The owl is put on all of Sonic's clothes after his encounter with Metal Sonic, so I feel like maybe the owl is just like a corpse that Metal Sonic is wearing.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 Metal Sonic took all his clothes.

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 2 Oh, she's

Speaker 3 a Robotnik got her a little dress to wear.

Speaker 1 That felt like it was not translated the way it was supposed to.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like they

Speaker 1 glossed over the perviness of Robotnik in that movie.

Speaker 2 This, my future wife. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I like that Tails is good at machines. I like that he's a little mechanic.

Speaker 2 I like that too. It's really fun.
I think it's also like it's an aspirational skill. I'd love to be good with machines.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it also like just gives another way that he can help out.

Speaker 3 Anytime someone can help out the team in multiple ways, I think that's fine.

Speaker 2 Because he's not stronger than Sonic. He's not even as strong as Sonic.
But he holds his own. But he can fly.

Speaker 3 He's mobile. And then he also does machines like Donatello.

Speaker 2 And Knuckles is kind of rude.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's got a little dude.

Speaker 1 What the fuck happened to the owl?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.
That was baffling.

Speaker 1 Why is the owl wearing Sonic's clothes and dancing?

Speaker 3 It's like he's been brainwashed or deprogrammed. It's like when Hans Moleman shows up in Bart Simpson's clothes.
He's just, cowabunga, dude. It's like, what the fuck is going on here?

Speaker 2 Can we do The Simpsons on one of these? Yeah, we should. We should watch The Simpsons episode.
Well, you know what?

Speaker 3 I bet we could do like some Simpsons video game themed episodes, like the Bone Storm episode. Oh, yeah.
I bet we could get away with that as like a one-off special if we did a couple of those.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's got to be a Simpsons anime crossover at some point.

Speaker 3 There is. They did a...
Oh, what was it?

Speaker 2 Was it? Oh, they did Death Note.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they did Death Note.

Speaker 2 It was actually really cool looking.

Speaker 1 It is impossible for me to pay attention to you guys talking while I'm trying to solve the mystery of the owl.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm really hyper-focused trying to hear what happened to the owl. Because the owl was just on, so they're in some, they're in Tails' like computer lab.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 the,

Speaker 1 what is, okay, I'm lost.

Speaker 2 You know, if you just had a near-death experience,

Speaker 1 I'm so lost.

Speaker 2 You would maybe think about trying to be cooler when you get away from that. I'm baffled.
I'm confused.

Speaker 1 I'm confused. I'm lost.

Speaker 3 I misread this. He is being creepy.
He does want to marry her.

Speaker 2 They're going to get married.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the dress he got her is a wedding dress.

Speaker 2 I knew it.

Speaker 3 And now she's imagining a future where she has a bunch of little robotnick kids.

Speaker 2 She's just breastfeeding one of them. Yeah, she was.

Speaker 3 Kind of amazing that didn't get censored for U.S. release.
That's again, I think they generally would have.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 2 okay. Not that it's a thing that should be censored.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying, like, the very American censors tend to be very prudish.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 I think breastfeeding is beautiful.

Speaker 2 Like, a guy that's like down, like, is a normal guy who goes too far away.

Speaker 2 Like, okay,

Speaker 2 okay, we heard you. I'm sick of this.

Speaker 1 So, the president has a technological compound and he's using it to communicate with Knuckles and the owl.

Speaker 1 And now they're talking about a glacier that we, I don't believe, have seen yet, which

Speaker 1 is, oh, this is what's going to happen if Robotnik gets his way.

Speaker 1 This is a terrifying death.

Speaker 2 That rock. If this is on Letterbox, this is getting five stars.
So the

Speaker 2 I agree with the review. His plan is to

Speaker 3 melt like the, I guess, the equivalent equivalent of the polar ice caps, which will cause the globe to spin super fast, which will eject all the continents into space.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, so they figured out what Metal Sonic's plan is. They're going to go to the North Pole as fast as they can to stop him.

Speaker 1 I hope to God we find out what happened to the owl by the end end of this film.

Speaker 1 I won't be able to give this a five-star review on Letterburger.

Speaker 3 Metal Sonic shows up, confronts the owl. The owl looks like he's about to die.

Speaker 3 We dissolve out of that scene.

Speaker 3 Some time passes. The owl shows up, and he is dressed up like a surfer dude.
And there's not a lot of context for what happened.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Robotnik and the president's daughter are warping to some other place.

Speaker 1 Hales has an Apple Watch. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is cool. He's got a smart watch.
He has like

Speaker 3 one of Robotnik's watches so he can snoop on him.

Speaker 1 Are these episodes enjoyable for a regular listener?

Speaker 2 People do like this. If you're in a picture, I think this is fun.

Speaker 1 Aren't you like confused about what we're confused about?

Speaker 3 We're trying to paint with words a little bit, describe what's going on. Metal Sonic is looking dreaming.

Speaker 1 Melissonic drawn so much better than everything else in this entire movie.

Speaker 2 He looks awesome.

Speaker 3 Well, you know what? I wonder if it might be. I wonder if it's kind of like, hey, this gets to be our own character design.
This is a thing that we get to like put some of our own, you know, spin on.

Speaker 1 Who's they?

Speaker 3 I assume the animation studio.

Speaker 1 No, that guy exists.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know. I know Metal Sonic exists, but I'm just like, I wonder if like because it's hyper Metal Sonic or because they're, like, I wonder if they get to have their own little take.

Speaker 1 I mean, he looks exactly like Sonic CD Metal Sonic. Well, then never mind.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you that that he's drawn better,

Speaker 1 he's colored better.

Speaker 2 He looks cool.

Speaker 1 Metal Sonic and Sonic are about to face off in

Speaker 1 the North Pole-ish.

Speaker 1 And Metal Sonic is mocking him.

Speaker 2 This movie is on Letterbox, and I just logged it with five stars. And my review is: this is incredible.

Speaker 3 So I'm looking at the plot summary on Wikipedia,

Speaker 3 and unfortunately,

Speaker 3 Owl is only referenced once for his character's introduction, so it's not giving any more specificity in terms of what's happening with his character arc. But he is called Old Man Owl.

Speaker 1 Oh, the reason Sonic can't beat Metal Sonic is because Metal Sonic has scanned Sonic's brain, And so he knows everything that's going to happen.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 Also, Sonic just got hit in the nuts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was pretty good.

Speaker 3 Okay. Metal Sonic was, I guess, inadvertently peeping on

Speaker 3 under

Speaker 3 Sarah's wedding dress. This is very fan service-y, the way,

Speaker 3 for a PG property, the way that Sarah is rendered.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of

Speaker 3 the scoring through here is really cool. It's like synthy with like a little bit of like saxophone, which I don't know if it's real.
I can't quite tell

Speaker 3 if it's real, real sax. I think it's synth sax, but it's cool

Speaker 2 flew a plane into Metalic.

Speaker 2 It's interesting to see this

Speaker 2 and not and to know that they haven't added all his shitty friends yet. Right.

Speaker 1 That's a pretty good, that's a pretty good bit.

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 1 Robotnik.

Speaker 3 He was creating some bad niks on the fly. He had like some real, like some actual animals that came out of his craft.

Speaker 1 They always, all the bad guys just want to marry. Think about how funny it is to be like, the worst thing I can do to a woman is marry her.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know what I'll do. I'll make this woman my wife.

Speaker 3 His plan is particularly bad, though, because he's going to extinguish all other life on Earth.

Speaker 2 So all will be left with him and her. And then they'll have little robotnik babies.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because I imagine if you're in her situation, it's like, well, there's literally no one else alive.

Speaker 2 Oh, there's Sonic, there's

Speaker 2 Knuckles and Tails, of course.

Speaker 3 I mean, not if Robotnik has his way.

Speaker 2 Is this Colleen O'Shaughnessy still? Or

Speaker 3 let me bring up the cast here. It might be.

Speaker 1 This is the most

Speaker 1 kinetic thing I've ever watched this late at night.

Speaker 3 It is Lainey Frazier in the English dub.

Speaker 1 Now, Sonic and Metal Sonic are

Speaker 1 like making lava come out of the ice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, mountains. I don't know how that happened, but Knuckles' hat caught on fire.
He was freaking out. It was pretty funny.

Speaker 3 Okay, listen to this.

Speaker 3 The actor in the English dub

Speaker 3 who plays Old Man Owl is Charles C. Campbell.

Speaker 2 My dad.

Speaker 3 Charles C. Campbell was employed as ADV Film's first in-house ADR audio engineer.

Speaker 3 He sat behind the mixing board through many ADV classics, including Neon Genesis Evangelion, Blue Seed, Battle Angel, Golden Boy,

Speaker 3 and the live-action Gamera, Guardian of the Universe. Wow.

Speaker 2 Isn't that wild? Crazy.

Speaker 3 The guy who's voicing the owl in this was just like mixing the English dub of all these classic anime.

Speaker 2 That's insane. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I guess he's an actor as well.

Speaker 3 Has directed episodes of One Piece.

Speaker 2 Very cool. Really cool.
Wow.

Speaker 3 It's cool when someone has like a big, wild, like divergent career like that.

Speaker 1 I guess Sonic beat Metal Sonic, but I don't know how.

Speaker 3 I kicked his ass.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I probably just won't.

Speaker 1 It was hard to follow while also listening to interesting factoids about a guy behind the... mixing board.

Speaker 2 President's about to die.

Speaker 3 Trying not to get too much in the notes here, but it's irresistible. Tails is pulling Sonic up into the sky.

Speaker 3 And Metal's back. Metal's not been defeated.

Speaker 2 I like calling him just Metal. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 His hands are terrifying.

Speaker 3 They really are.

Speaker 2 They're just like fucking razor-sharp claws.

Speaker 3 God, I'd hate to be stabbed with one of those.

Speaker 1 I'd hate to be stabbed with anything.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 Pretty low on my list of ways I'd like to be hurt.

Speaker 3 Robotnik does look cool in his wedding suit, I will say.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he looks sharp.

Speaker 2 He cleans up nice.

Speaker 3 The baby blue tucks. It's a good look for him with a red bow tie.

Speaker 2 A little bit of a cape.

Speaker 2 There's a name for that. I can't remember what it's called.
Sort of like a half cape. Sure.
Sort of situation.

Speaker 1 If I was a kid, this whole sequence would have been some of my favorite stuff I'd ever seen.

Speaker 2 If I was a kid, I would maybe tell you that this is my favorite movie.

Speaker 3 The environment is really, I mean, they're in this whole, this whole polar ice cap environment, and it's

Speaker 3 got some cool backgrounds. Some that are a little spare, but other ones that are very, very cool looking.

Speaker 2 Knuckles had a bump on his head, and it was round, and it kind of looked gross.

Speaker 3 I don't love the whole bump on the head thing, which I know is like in all animation, the way to show injury, but I always feel like it looks gross.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because, like, what is it filled with? Right.

Speaker 3 Well, Sonic, Metal Sonic is getting fucked up.

Speaker 2 The president is near death.

Speaker 3 Well, Knuckles using his famous knuckles, unable to punch through the glass that the president is trapped inside.

Speaker 3 But it looks like Metal Sonic has been hurtled through and has penetrated the whole

Speaker 3 Sonic.

Speaker 3 This is the whole franchise in a nutshell.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 A massive explosion with Sonic the Hedgehog yelling out, Mr.

Speaker 2 President, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 Sonic just dove into the volcano to, I think, save Metal Sonic.

Speaker 3 Ah, fuck, this rules.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 It's very

Speaker 1 revenge of the six.

Speaker 3 This is great because he is fucked up.

Speaker 2 He'll drag you under whitlight.

Speaker 2 So dark. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, no. Metal Sonic knocked his hand away.

Speaker 1 Metal Sonic would rather die than receive Sonic's help.

Speaker 2 Oh my god,

Speaker 2 shit.

Speaker 2 He said there's only one Sonic and then went into the lava. And then sacrificed himself.

Speaker 1 Legs first. Legs first.

Speaker 2 There's only one Sonic Sonic. You.

Speaker 2 And then he fucking... He didn't say that.

Speaker 3 But it's like an implied is there's only one Sonic you, so I have to kill myself.

Speaker 2 The tortoise is still running, and that's really funny.

Speaker 3 The tortoise, that was very funny. The magma fucking melted Metal Sonic into nothing.

Speaker 2 And now they're all standing there, like, uh, so I guess we gotta go just go back home or something.

Speaker 3 We just witnessed a slow suicide, I guess.

Speaker 3 Go on with our lives somehow.

Speaker 2 Hopefully, that soda of mine's still cold.

Speaker 3 All of Sonic's data?

Speaker 2 What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Robotnik has a CD. That's all.

Speaker 2 All of Metal Sonic's data.

Speaker 1 That's all that Sonic is, is one CD's worth of information.

Speaker 2 Tortoise grabbed the CD and then blew up. That's fun.

Speaker 2 They're all laughing at him. I'm like, haha, Robotnik, you stupid bitch.

Speaker 3 God, that was like the end of Terminator 2.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's so

Speaker 2 fucking rim.

Speaker 1 I think this is the end of the movie.

Speaker 2 I think so. I think we're just like

Speaker 2 over.

Speaker 3 Well, the central conflict has been resolved. We're not going to be able to melt the polarized.

Speaker 1 The owl is now on Robotnik's side, along with the president and the president's daughter.

Speaker 2 Are they friends now?

Speaker 1 There was never

Speaker 1 an explanation of any kind.

Speaker 3 I think they're still arguing. I think that, yeah, the owls on the owls maybe switched allegiances,

Speaker 3 but I think the president and Sarah are still being held hostage to some degree.

Speaker 1 The end.

Speaker 3 We get a Sonic the Hedgehog.

Speaker 3 Well, hey, that was good.

Speaker 2 I enjoyed the movie.

Speaker 2 Because we've done only these. We've done these

Speaker 2 watch-alongs with Pokemon movies. We've got credits music, too.

Speaker 3 We only got a little piece of it in this rip.

Speaker 2 We've done it with Pokemon movies. We've done it with the Tekken movie.
And maybe, did we do it with the Street Fighter one or we just watched Street Fighter?

Speaker 1 We did Animehem this way.

Speaker 3 We did Animehem this way. We did Animehem this way.

Speaker 2 This is far and away the

Speaker 2 best thing we've watched in this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is the best of these.

Speaker 1 The least, the thing that dragged the least, other than for me,

Speaker 2 Camp Girls, whatever the fuck that's happening.

Speaker 2 Lay back camp.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm surprised that that was decent.

Speaker 3 I thought that was good.

Speaker 2 I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 I loved it.

Speaker 3 I also think it just sort of captures everything that's fun about Sonic. Yeah.
It's just like

Speaker 3 this knows, this understands the appeal of the property and represents it in a narrative.

Speaker 1 Move fast, nonsense, move fast.

Speaker 2 Right. And be cool, dude.
He was cool like the whole time. He was really cool.

Speaker 3 So as far as get plate goes, ranch any any thoughts on this movie love the turtle yeah turtle's great as as your first like you know we talked about the sonic underground theme song but like as your first full exposure to the sonic canon um how do you feel are you interested in exploring more about this uh this this cool hedgehog yeah i feel like i gotta i gotta consume more okay great let us know how your journey progresses uh as far as get plate goes the only thing i spotted let me know if there's anything else you saw but the only thing i spotted was some beach sodas

Speaker 1 I didn't spot any food anywhere in this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we had Sonic sipping a beach soda, and then later on, the owl is emulating him and also sipping a beach soda. So I guess I'll ask.

Speaker 3 Do you like sipping a soda on the beach?

Speaker 3 Because that's how, I mean, I don't think about doing that often, but you know what? That sounds pretty fun.

Speaker 3 I usually will have like, like I'm going to have like a smoothie or something, or maybe like a.

Speaker 1 I don't like the beach.

Speaker 3 You don't like the beach?

Speaker 1 No, come on. I mean, why is that a surprise with my character at all? I don't like the beach.

Speaker 3 I love the beach.

Speaker 2 At all. Do you love the beach? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm from Long Beach.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 3 I love that area.

Speaker 3 I love the sand between my toes. I love watching the waves.
I like the ocean breeze. I don't necessarily like going in the ocean because the ocean is very oftentimes filthy water.

Speaker 2 I hate sand.

Speaker 1 It's rough. It's coarse.
It gets everywhere.

Speaker 3 Got a got an anakin in our hands.

Speaker 2 I like being at the beach, but I don't like going there and I don't like leaving. Like, do you know what I mean? Because, like, the idea of transporting sand

Speaker 2 does bother me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, that's the thing. Like, you got to deal with that.
You got to, you got to have, like, I'm going to wear some sandals.

Speaker 3 I'm going to rinse my feet off at the beach shower, hopefully take care of all of it. I might have, I'm driving, I might have some sand in the car.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there, there might be some issues you got to deal with. But

Speaker 3 that's the thing.

Speaker 3 That's a solvable problem.

Speaker 2 I grew up going to Seal Beach. Oh, yeah.
I love Seal Beach. And then, which is a great beach.
There's a taco surf right nearby. we go to that taco surf all the time.

Speaker 2 But then, as I got older, we started to go to Bolsa Chica. Oh, yeah, Bolsa Chica.
And

Speaker 2 there's a jack-in-the-box on the corner that's right by. It's a jack-in-the-box.
It's a fucking, it's a perfect jack-in-the-box. One, it's good quality jack-in-the-box.
And two, it's a perfect beach.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm just going to be here for a little bit, eat some dumb fucking horrible food, eat some naps. Maybe we feel like shit.
And then we're going to swim for four hours.

Speaker 2 Have a great day.

Speaker 2 But I do like a soda on the beach.

Speaker 2 I like a cold one on the beach. That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 3 I honestly think of the, I associate the beach so much more with like alcohol, with like having a brew dog or having like a frozen margarita or something like that.

Speaker 3 But when I think about it, I see him just Sonic looking cool as shit, sipping a soda in a cup. I mean, that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 Why wouldn't I like an ice cold Coca-Cola?

Speaker 2 I got the beach soda, I think. Cactus cooler.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a good call.

Speaker 2 I like a cactus cooler.

Speaker 3 I oversaturated myself with cactus cooler as a kid because I was like,

Speaker 3 I love cactus cooler. I only want cactus coolers.
I was having cactus cooler all the time. I was getting my parents to buy it as much as any soda.
And I was like having a cactus cooler every day.

Speaker 3 And I reached a certain boy. I was like, I'm kind of over it.

Speaker 2 Cactus cooler is coveted to me to this day. I didn't grow up getting it that much.
Yeah. But I always wanted it.
And now whenever I can get

Speaker 2 at a taco stand or any place that sells a single can of soda and they have cactus cooler, I'm reaching for a cactus cooler every time.

Speaker 3 I haven't had one in like 20 years. I should have one.

Speaker 2 They're so good. I also think squirt, a glass bottle.
Squirt is great. A glass bottle squirt.
I've maybe said this to you.

Speaker 2 Maybe, I don't know if I've said this to you. I think a glass bottle squirt when it's ice cold is the coldest drink you can have.

Speaker 2 It is so fucking good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's perfect.

Speaker 3 A grapefruit soda is very fun, and squirt does a good one.

Speaker 2 Love it. I had a,

Speaker 1 there was a place, a restaurant that closed called Paley here in LA.

Speaker 1 And they served Soparo in a,

Speaker 1 in a special,

Speaker 1 like it was a special situation that they advertised. And it was like the coldest possible beer.
They would serve it to you in a, in a pint glass, like a long pint glass.

Speaker 1 And when they put it down on the table, when they tapped it, it would start to freeze inside the glass. Wow.
And it was the, it was the coldest drink I've ever had.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's amazing.
I want that. I want that.
Ranch, you like soda? I love soda. What's your go-to soda?

Speaker 2 Dr. Pepper.
Yeah, Dr.

Speaker 3 Pepper is great. Do you ever mess with a cactus cooler?

Speaker 1 Is that like, is it orange?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think I've had it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good. It's good.

Speaker 3 Well, how do you feel? Where do you stand on the beach in general? I don't love the beach. You don't love the beach.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You're fucking right.

Speaker 2 Ranch and I are the same.

Speaker 1 I like looking at it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 If I'm driving by. Yep, Yep, yep, yep.
A beach drive, great.

Speaker 3 No, but this is the thing. So much of the appeal for the beach for me is looking at the beach.
I do really like looking at the beach and I like being by the ocean. I love seeing the ocean.

Speaker 3 Any day I see the ocean is a good day.

Speaker 1 If I'm at the beach, even for like 30 minutes, I go home nauseous and exhausted. Wow.

Speaker 2 This is going to sound counter to what I'm about to say.

Speaker 2 I do like to be at the beach,

Speaker 2 but as soon as i get to the beach i'm like when can we leave i'm like i'm i'm ready to i'm ready to go home at any time because like yeah the idea of getting wet the idea of like

Speaker 2 going in the ocean going in the ocean here is different i'm about to go to the beach uh for a week and i'm actually very excited about it but i am like the beaches here i wish were just a little bit better when you go to beach out of town

Speaker 2 like uh even um gosh like pismo beach i like going to the beaches up there oh sure it's beautiful over there yeah i've kept there before It's great.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Zuma's fine. Like, if I have to go to the beach over here

Speaker 2 in LA, I'll go to Zuma and have a nice day.

Speaker 3 Or go down to like a Huntington Beach or a Newport Beach.

Speaker 2 Only when I want to go to a very specific rally.

Speaker 3 This is the thing: those beaches are nice, but like the people there are fucking awful.

Speaker 1 This is the worst conversation of my life. And I was once told I had cancer.

Speaker 2 fate? What is your preferred spend a day outside? Mountains, forests, mountains and forests.

Speaker 3 Those are good biomes.

Speaker 2 I love mountains and forests.

Speaker 1 I hate beach. I hate desert.
I want mountains and forest. Stream.

Speaker 2 Lake? Fine. Oh, you like the lake?

Speaker 3 Get the lake out of here.

Speaker 2 You don't like the lake.

Speaker 3 Ocean destroys the lake.

Speaker 2 Ocean is disgusting.

Speaker 3 Lakes are fucking disgusting.

Speaker 2 Lake is good.

Speaker 3 I don't fucking want to get a brain amoeba. Get me out of there.

Speaker 1 You think the Pacific garbage patch isn't giving you brain amoebas you guys rivers are where it's at rivers are awesome they're powerful rivers are great you ever gone whitewatering

Speaker 2 what the fuck do you think heather the answer is yes no no no

Speaker 2 uh i've gone a few times you know it seems cool uh it seems uh dangerous and like you need equipment and uh

Speaker 1 people to want to do that with and not if not if you go up to northern wisconsin where they just you you go to a whitewater place and they're like here you go and they don't even give you helmets.

Speaker 3 Yeah, here's what I'll say about whitewater rafting. First off, sometimes like the white router rafting is run by like a guy who owns a boat.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like it's not like the most regulated sector of the economy. But the other thing is like

Speaker 3 I've been whitewater rafting and then I compare that with like a whitewater rafting ride at like Disney's California Adventures. Like I'd rather just do the ride.
It's the same sort of experience.

Speaker 1 One of the two times I went

Speaker 1 to the next one.

Speaker 1 The second and final time I went whitewater rafting on on a waterfall I was in high school and on a waterfall that we went over my friend's boat hit a rock and explodes oh my god so that was the last time we ever went whitewatering I'm just now I'm not just remembering this but

Speaker 2 a couple years ago when I was in Hawaii I was on the uh the big island Kona I'd never snorkeled before in my life. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So we go to this hotel that has like a little lagoon that has the ocean water coming in and there's like fish and like turtles in the little lagoon. It's great.

Speaker 2 I'm learning to snorkel in there, it's like four feet deep or whatever, but like I'm just like, I'm learning. Okay,

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 pick it up pretty quickly. I'm interested because I'm seeing little fish, and that's exciting.
That's like really fun to see fish just kind of swimming around.

Speaker 2 You're supposed to leave them alone, don't touch them, don't do anything, don't leave them alone, but keep a distance and look, take a picture if you want.

Speaker 2 If you have an underwater camera, which I did buy for the trip, and then uh, we go to the beach,

Speaker 2 and now I have the whole ocean to snorkel in if I want. And let me tell you something: I had to be called back because I went, according to my fiancé and our family,

Speaker 3 dangerously far.

Speaker 2 I was just way out there just having the time of my life. I loved it.
So if I have an ocean activity, I like to be in the ocean, but you're not going to ever see me

Speaker 2 running away from the waves and trying to get in there anymore.

Speaker 2 Give me a boogie board or something. I'll do it.

Speaker 1 I've done snorkeling a few times and it upsets me because I feel like I'm high in the air.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 1 Because like if you're over clear water and you can see all the way down, you're like, I'm on the top of a four-story building.

Speaker 2 We got in a like a glass bottom boat tour that took us out further than we would, than we could have gotten on our own. And we got to snorkel in the middle of the ocean.
And that was.

Speaker 2 Fucking terrifying. It's terrifying.
Terrifying. I've done that too.
So scary, but I. It's fucking terrifying.
I also, I loved it. No way.
I loved it so much. No way.
Hated it.

Speaker 2 There were different fish out there than the ones ones you see close to. Yeah, I can imagine.
It was really, really cool. But it was very, very.
I was like, what did they leave me out here?

Speaker 1 I saw a nurse.

Speaker 1 I saw a nurse shark, which are apparently not dangerous to people, but are still shark-shaped and sharks while snorkeling in Florida.

Speaker 2 And I was like, this is hell. What's the difference between that shark and a nurse shark? Or a regular shark? Is it just like wearing a different outfit?

Speaker 1 Their mouths don't

Speaker 1 have like the big teeth mouth.

Speaker 2 So it's not like Nurse Joker? Where you're sort of like, oh, this nurse.

Speaker 1 This nurse is fine, but when you take off a mask, it's something Joker.

Speaker 2 Just a joker all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 Describing a nurse as wearing a different outfit.

Speaker 2 All jobs are just different outfits when you at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 Well, I want to go back to the beach thing because, Rochelle, you lived in Thailand for a time. Isn't Thailand, I've never been, isn't it famed for its beaches? Isn't that part of it?

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 1 I lived in Bangkok, which is a city, but we did go to the beach often.

Speaker 3 Wait, how far? I don't know the geography. Is Bangkok near the coast at all?

Speaker 2 Or?

Speaker 1 Probably the closest beach is like an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 Okay, so it's not like right there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Got it. So you were like in the beachy communities where, you know, there were there were like that was like a big part of the day?

Speaker 1 No. And then the closest beach was like really disgusting.
You have to like fly to the south to get to all the islands.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 Well, this has been the beach and soda, Chad.

Speaker 2 The beach and soda.

Speaker 3 You know what I was thinking where we were talking, like, because we were talking about Sonic swimming earlier.

Speaker 3 A fun bit of fan service would have been if they'd taken the scoring from when Sonic's about to drown and used that when he was in peril in the water.

Speaker 2 They do it in the movie.

Speaker 3 It is really cool.

Speaker 2 Yep. I like that.

Speaker 3 I do like that too.

Speaker 1 Guys.

Speaker 1 It's my bedtime. Yeah,

Speaker 2 let's go home. It's fucking late.

Speaker 1 Well, if you're listening to this at night, you too can go to bed now. And if it's the morning, pull over your car and go to bed.

Speaker 1 If it's the middle of the day, perhaps it's time for you to tell your boss, I'm tired, and then just leave the office and go to bed. Because we're putting Sonic the Hedgehog to bed today

Speaker 1 on Get Animate.

Speaker 3 Maybe when you wake up in your subconscious and you're sleep, your brain will have figured out what the fuck happened with that owl.

Speaker 3 Hey, that was the Sonic anime. Last week, we watched the final two episodes of Uzumaki, and y'all send in some of your thoughts.

Speaker 3 It's time for chain reactions, colon talkinator zero, colon, you zoo talkie.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 2 oh no, this show, it's a it's a spiral.

Speaker 3 Oh, boy, it's folding back in on itself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Higari goes. You know, we're uh, Heather wasn't here last week for episodes three and four.
Heather, real quick, would you like to say what you thought about episodes three and four?

Speaker 1 Um, so I had to miss, uh, I had to miss the record

Speaker 1 for extenuating circumstances. And I can only say the word, the only thing worse than watching those episodes was watching them for no fucking reason.

Speaker 1 So, uh, yeah, they uh

Speaker 2 woof.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my um, my Uzu talkie is uh please don't ever don't ever do that to me again

Speaker 2 um okay well this first comment is from duke lion hey duke lion hi duke lion and duke lion writes i worked at hollywood video in the early 2000s and watched all of the tomier movies had no idea they were adaptations of anything

Speaker 2 wow wow Any take beyond that? That's all they said, but I would imagine, because like I remember at my Hollywood Video,

Speaker 3 these were live-action movies.

Speaker 2 Yeah, these were live-action Tomier movies. I remember at my Hollywood video, they would have walls of like multiple screens showing the same movie, and that was always an allure to me.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'd always be like, okay, well, I can't find something that I want to watch. My brothers are probably picking something.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to stand here and watch, you know, Austin Powers 2 or something.

Speaker 3 Sure. Whatever they had on at the time.

Speaker 2 Gosh, Hollywood video in the early 2000s. Take me back.

Speaker 2 What a time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Get rid of the smartphones, put in a Hollywood video, let's go.

Speaker 2 I would take a smartphone over. I would take a Hollywood video over a smartphone.
I'm done with my phone.

Speaker 3 I didn't even know that the Tomier films were released on video in the States.

Speaker 2 That is an interesting piece of information.

Speaker 3 Let alone that you can find them in a Hollywood video. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hollywood video always had a little bit more eclectic

Speaker 1 selection than Blockbuster, I found. I found Hollywood video to be like more like, oh, wow, they have the bride with white hair on VHS.
That's strange.

Speaker 3 They've been, they've made nine Tomiye films. I had no idea it was that extensive of a franchise.

Speaker 2 Is it? I mean, I would assume that the Tome is as chunky as Uzumaki to warrant such.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Tomiye is a big boy. I mean, I read it and talked about it on the podcast

Speaker 3 at a certain point.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 it's a big boy. I mean,

Speaker 3 I see what they could kind of take kind of the anthology structure and focus a whole movie that's on one aspect of the story, but I wonder how they adapted it exactly.

Speaker 2 I guess I'd have to read it and then watch it so I would

Speaker 2 have a point of comparison.

Speaker 2 This next one is from Kid Kimura.

Speaker 2 And Kid Kimura writes, Reading Uzumaki fucked me up for life.

Speaker 2 I first tried to read it a few years ago while I was recovering from a medical procedure. I have an inner ear disorder called, oh boy, Minieri's disease.
Sorry for the mispronunciation there.

Speaker 3 I've heard of that disease, but I also do not know how you're supposed to pronounce it.

Speaker 2 Which involves pretty intense vertigo attacks

Speaker 2 alongside plenty of other fun symptoms. Reading that sarcastically.

Speaker 2 At the time, I was recovering from a treatment that intentionally destroys part of the inner ear of the affected side to eventually help relieve the vertigo. Wow.

Speaker 2 In the short term, though, I was suffering from the worst dizziness of my life, literally bedbound and unable to move my head without experiencing severe vertigo.

Speaker 2 Perfect opportunity to catch up on some reading. When I got

Speaker 2 this is like a well-constructed comment. It's longer, but I'm appreciating the journey that we're on.

Speaker 2 When I got to the bit about Shuichi's mother stabbing herself in the ears and being

Speaker 2 stuck in a constant state of vertigo, it fucked me up so bad that I started having a severe vertigo attack.

Speaker 2 I slammed the book shut and threw it across the room and didn't work up to nerve to finish it for another six months. This was the single worst possible book I could have read at that point.

Speaker 2 I felt scarred by the experience. Thankfully, I don't get vertigo attacks as often or as intense these days, but it's something that can still happen.
at any time and with very little warning.

Speaker 2 Much like the town of

Speaker 2 Caruzzo Cho, I'll forever be haunted by spirals. Wow.
Thanks for sharing, Kid Commercial. I'm sorry that you've told me that.

Speaker 1 Great comment.

Speaker 1 Horrible circumstances. Sorry you had to go through that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, jeez. Wow.

Speaker 3 That's like watching the movie Alive on an airplane. That's like that experience.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 What is the movie? Alive? Alive? It's the one where they eat each other.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a plane crash that leaves the camera.

Speaker 2 The Society of the Snow.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, there's a guy adapted to the ship. I watched the remake of the Poseidon Poseidon adventure on a cruise ship.

Speaker 2 Pretty good. That's very funny.

Speaker 2 I don't remember it being particularly good, but I remember

Speaker 2 liking it at the time.

Speaker 2 This next one's from Kyle Caulfield.

Speaker 1 Hi, Kyle.

Speaker 2 And Kyle writes, Matt, my brother in Arceus, spirals are indeed shapes. So you aren't here for this, Heather.
Wow.

Speaker 2 What the fuck? What did I do? I asked out loud on the show with just Nick here, is a spiral a shape?

Speaker 2 And we didn't come to a good conclusion.

Speaker 1 What is a shape?

Speaker 2 See, now this is what we needed.

Speaker 1 Isn't a shape literally anything you can look at?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like a camera is a shape. Well, this is what I think.
I was like, is a line a shape? Because I was like, it's a point. It's two.
A spiral to me is two points in a fixed plane.

Speaker 2 But does that constitute a shape?

Speaker 1 A spiral is two points.

Speaker 3 It's not just two points.

Speaker 3 There's a bunch more going on.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 but it starts and it ends, no?

Speaker 2 Yeah. maybe it's also infinite.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I think it is a shape. I think it's maybe a two-dimensional shape or a three-dimensional shape, depending on how it's rendered, but I think it's very much a shape.

Speaker 1 So you're saying a shape has to like finish.

Speaker 2 I think that's what I mean. And there's some deliberation here in the comments.

Speaker 2 Our previous commenter, Kid Kamura, says, I think a spiral can be a shape, but as it's essentially just a line with no interconnecting points, I'd say it's better described as a curve.

Speaker 2 See, maybe this is what I was looking for. Maybe it's a a curve.
And then Kyle says, so a curved shape or alternative, or alternatively, a wild and crazy line.

Speaker 2 We may never know what the spiral actually is, but I think I was getting close with it's a curve of some kind.

Speaker 3 I want to talk to like a geometry expert.

Speaker 2 I want to talk to one too and give them a wedgie or something.

Speaker 2 Unnecessary.

Speaker 1 And also, you're both so satisfied with it,

Speaker 1 which makes it worse.

Speaker 2 Could you imagine me giving somebody a wedgie? It's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 Tenured mathematician at Stanford University.

Speaker 2 His fucking chonies pulled over his head.

Speaker 2 Chonies? His chonies. What is a choni? Chonies is like what people call like undies.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 I didn't know choni. It's pretty funny.
You'll enjoy saying it.

Speaker 3 We had fun.

Speaker 2 Hearing it as a standalone is pretty funny. Joe K writes.

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe.

Speaker 2 The mosquito straw. We were really stupid last night.

Speaker 2 I forgot we said all the stupid bullshit. What is a shape? What is it? It's a spiralist shape.
What is the... I think I called it a beak at first, and then we settled on straw.
The mosquito.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 What is it, a nozzle?

Speaker 2 Does it have a name? A nozzle. Joe K says the mosquito straw is a proboscus.

Speaker 3 Proboscus? Proboscus, yeah. Or proboscus.

Speaker 2 I haven't watched this or Terminator Zero, and I never will.

Speaker 3 You know, honestly, that's a fair approach is to listen to the pod, see if we thought something was worthwhile, and then decide whether or not to actually watch it.

Speaker 2 And we were asking last week if

Speaker 2 people like getting bitten by mosquitoes. Heather, where are you at with getting mosquito bites? What the fuck? It came up as

Speaker 1 people like it?

Speaker 3 This was my contention because you know there's people who are like, oh, actually like rats. I think they're cute and misunderstood.
I was like, no one actually likes mosquitoes.

Speaker 3 There's not anyone who's like, who's like, oh, I actually think mosquitoes are like cool. Or like, I like a mosquito bite.
There's no one.

Speaker 3 Those people don't exist.

Speaker 1 You've invented the type of person, though.

Speaker 1 The fact that you've said it means that in our universe it does exist wow because until then i'd never had that thought right and the fact that i've had the thought means there's some contrarian out there who's like i actually like mosquitoes

Speaker 2 people like like worms and stuff you know

Speaker 2 well from from commenter deacon raid

Speaker 2 i produce an entomology podcast called bugs need heroes and one of the hosts loves mosquitoes wow her doctorate focuses on them and climate change it's expected that warmer climates will mean more mosquitoes, but she's been bitten by them so much that she's developed an allergy.

Speaker 2 Entomologists also sometimes get allergies to the small scales on butterfly wings. Whoa.

Speaker 2 That's wild. What I'm learning here in just this comment alone, there's a lot about bugs I just don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's too many bugs. There's that.
I'll say that. You can say that again.

Speaker 1 Fewer now, though, than there used to be.

Speaker 2 And that's bad, probably.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Also, that entomologist with a degree in climate science sounds like someone else you'd want to bully.

Speaker 2 I actually

Speaker 2 really respect scientists.

Speaker 2 Mathematicians are pointexters, but scientists

Speaker 2 sucks. Science rules.

Speaker 2 Science is like magic.

Speaker 3 Much like the late, great Jimmy Buffett. You think math sucks, S-U-X.

Speaker 3 Jimmy Buffett wrote a song called Math Sucks.

Speaker 2 He did. He did, yeah.
You know,

Speaker 2 I know he's passed, but let me just say this. He has no leg to stand on for calling, saying anything sucks.
How dare you? Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 Whenever I walk by his restaurant, there's always at least one very sad-looking person in there.

Speaker 3 Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville has fallen off a cliff, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 Ryan Quinn says. Hi, Ryan.
Nick's saying the plot starts to feel dizzying. Hey, buddy, guess what's also dizzying? A spiral, baby.
Fuck.

Speaker 3 They got me.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know that we can get owned in the comments like that.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say from henceforth, never do that again.

Speaker 2 Lest you want the band of your undies on the top of your head, brother.

Speaker 2 My chonies. My chonies, they're going to rip.
It's my only pair. I only get one pair a year for Christmas from my mom.
Get out of here. Just kidding.
Sorry, Ryan. You seems like a good guy.

Speaker 1 Am I like having a fever dream right now?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Dean Loud and Clear, right? This will be our last one. Dean Loud and Clear.
Dean Loud and Clear, old pal. The Dean.
Wow. I'm actually shocked at how bad this show was.

Speaker 2 It now sits alongside, oh, Foolie Cooley, as easily the worst two shows that have been covered on this podcast. Wow.
That's a shot. That's a shot.

Speaker 2 That's a shot.

Speaker 2 Did I like that show?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 2 They're not comparable. They're on completely different levels.

Speaker 3 Even just from a craft standpoint, like Foodie Cootie, whatever you think of the content, is a great-looking show.

Speaker 2 It is an abrasive watch.

Speaker 3 Yes, it has some elements. It is some intentionally repulsive elements, but it's

Speaker 3 I think that's like at minimum, that is a show. This is just a hodgepodge of ideas that don't really

Speaker 2 come together

Speaker 2 from Dean. But it's what I like to read.
I like the take. I like to read a hodgepodge.
I don't agree with it, but I like the take. Cold takes? Miss me with that.
Who needs it?

Speaker 1 Guys, was that the last...

Speaker 1 Was that the last one? That was the last one.

Speaker 2 And that concludes our discussion of Uzumaki. Let us know what you thought next week about the Sonic

Speaker 2 movie we just watched. Yes.
And also,

Speaker 1 guys,

Speaker 1 guys, I could not be more excited to say that the boys have agreed to let me watch for the next three episodes of Get Animated. We are going to cover Gundam Requiem for Vengeance.
And I cannot,

Speaker 1 I cannot say. whether it is good or not, but I have a feeling that it might be good.
And if it is good, then by God,

Speaker 1 I am going to get to watch a brand new Gundam show right here on the show with my friends and you, the listeners. It's Gundam for Requiem for Vengeance on Netflix.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go say right off the bat, I'm not watching it in English. I'm going to watch it in Japanese.
I hope you do too when we watch Gundam Requiem for Vengeance. Wow.

Speaker 2 Does Gundam have like a Terminator like

Speaker 2 not really? Kind of feels like they need one.

Speaker 1 There's too many good themes for it to have a single theme.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, hey, that bodes well for us then.

Speaker 2 And you know what?

Speaker 2 I got animed.

Speaker 2 Why did you say that? I feel like I took us down a crazy road and we kind of all went a little crazy there. You don't think Dr.

Speaker 1 Robotnik got animated?

Speaker 2 Oh, you know, actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I think it was actually Dr. Robotnik and not me.

Speaker 2 Wait, we actually didn't touch on this actually for a second.

Speaker 3 Dr. Robotnik?

Speaker 2 Nick?

Speaker 2 Robot Nick?

Speaker 3 Let's end the episode, guys.

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