Ally Yost & Ashley Hetherington | Girls Gone Bible

Hi guys.

I'm Ange.

And I'm Ari.

And this is Girls Gone Bible.

And today we have two very special guests.

It's not the first time and it won't be their last.

Their names are Ali Yost and Ashley Hetherington.

Do we applaud?

Yeah.

We applaud.

Do we applaud?

Love you guys.

We love you, love you guys.

Thank you guys for coming.

Thanks for having us.

It's been exactly one year since the first time they came on.

Yeah, which is crazy.

Time has flown.

Time has flown.

Time has flown right by.

So much has happened since then.

You guys, Allie and Ashley, are two of probably the greatest people I've personally ever met.

And I actually really mean that.

You guys are dear friends.

And Ashley, you do so much for Jesus.

You have a YouTube channel.

You have like a big, big social media presence.

And you literally

lead and guide girls and people in general.

I don't know your demographic, but you guide so many people with your authentic love for Jesus and you reach so many people and the Lord really is using you in such a beautiful way.

And Al's.

Ali has a podcast called Christ with Coffee on Ice.

Yes.

Not coffee with Christ on ice.

Sometimes Christ with coffee with Christ on the ice, guys.

It's just the coffee.

Who says that?

Sometimes it's a tongue twister.

It is like a packet.

You never know.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

And you have a massive social media presence as well.

And you guys both talk about Jesus.

You lead people to Jesus.

And I always say this when I talk about you guys, when I introduce you to people, I'm like, I think social media ministry, online ministry can have such a bad rep sometimes.

Rightfully so at times.

You never know people's intentions, but for how

popular you guys are, for how much influence you have, I have never seen people in this space with as much purity in their hearts as you two.

Yeah.

I am not hyping you up right now.

You keep the main thing, the main thing.

You are not in it.

Like you would never know that you guys like have what you have.

Like you would never know upon meeting you because you're just like, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

I really know you're not.

That's the sweetest ever.

Thank you guys.

I really know.

We love you.

He keeps me humble.

Oh, yeah, he does.

There you go.

He is on the ground.

On the ground.

We're so honored to be here.

We just love you guys.

We are amazed at what the Lord's doing through you both, through Gugaba.

We call them Gugaba Gaba.

Yes, they're Gugaba.

And we just love y'all.

And you guys are just like taking the world by storm for Jesus.

And even just hearing about Boston, like how, you know, a thousand people were there.

I mean, in a place, probably more than a thousand, correct?

In a place where it's like not Jesus, you know?

And so, even to hear that, I'm like, oh my goodness, it's happening.

Souls are being saved in the most unlikely places in America, in the world, and you guys are being used by the Lord to do it.

So,

I'm so training you guys on.

I'm so so proud of you guys.

Like, whoa.

Well, we are so proud of you because you had me up all night watching Jesus Freaks.

It was so comforting.

You binged it.

My mom.

She did.

My mom goes where are those two girls with the channel with the reality show she is obsessed where are those two jesus freaks sorry keep going no even for the unbeliever how comforting is it to them i actually had an unbeliever tell me how comforting and how you actually planted the seed for them for jesus oh

let's go

it's like being with your best friends you guys are just so non-judgmental and you guys come from such a place of purity and love like and said and can you guys just talk about it a little bit?

A little bit a bit?

Yeah.

A little bit.

We can talk about Jesus really.

Let's, okay, so we're going to, we want to know.

So you guys were living in Nashville when you came here last.

You came to LA just to come on this podcast and to do like a little swab.

No, this is the swap.

It is actually crazy.

And it starts with y'all's podcast.

So cool.

I want to make a point.

I think Ellie and I are going to toss.

We're going to just toss it up to each other and we'll just tell this story.

Yeah.

So the last time we were here, obviously a year ago on y'all's podcast we flew out here i had just moved to nashville from la

um i had just met ashley like a couple months before that and i was probably about three months into my move all the all the way out in nashville and then you guys had reached out and we're like oh my gosh yes and then i was like okay well i just lived there so it'd be so great to like even show ash around we can make a trip out of it whatever we'll stay for a week so we come on your pod and then um

we just kept, I don't know, the Lord just like started moving and we were meeting all these incredible people, which I didn't know existed because of my, yeah, out of nowhere, my impression when I first lived here is like, there just weren't that many people who loved, like really loved Jesus, would like die for him, obsess with him.

And so to experience that on this trip three months after I just moved out of the city, I was like,

what?

Where were these people, God?

Like even y'all, like we weren't even connected, but we were all still living in the same city.

So whatever.

Yeah, the Lord was just moving.

And do you want to take the baton now?

Yeah.

so now it's been a week, and we're like thriving.

We're like, What is going on, guys?

It's been a week, and then we're like, you know, maybe it should be two weeks.

So, we don't

know what were we?

Who cares?

I don't know.

Wait, I think you were traveling somewhere.

You guys were on the went somewhere.

You traveled, you guys were somewhere, yeah.

Um, and we were literally staying in Ange's house.

I'm like experiencing the presentation.

He was anointed as freak, by the way.

Like,

this guy experiences

everywhere in angel's place and i was like i was like i love it here i love it is it all the crucifixes the cabinet

crucifix right there you have just like a picture of jesus on your cabinet printed out just like on our cabinet like this is the best place ever there's like communion scattered everywhere so it was amazing

and not only that we were like just going to HB, we were meeting with all these people who just love the Lord.

So so many people in LA and just Southern California.

We were like, we cannot leave.

So we end up extending our trip.

We're having the time of our lives.

I'm in the middle of like book season.

So I'm like, I'm like working hard, but I'm like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.

I did not see this coming that I would just adore this place and the people here.

We then end up going back to Nashville.

After like three weeks, we stayed for like three weeks.

Wow.

And we're like, okay,

it feels different.

We, we, it almost felt like God's hand was over us in Nashville.

And And then all of a sudden, we went back to Nashville and it was like off.

Wow.

The grace movie.

The grace moved.

It was off.

And I look at Allie and I was like, I feel like we're not supposed to be here.

Like, it just didn't feel right.

It didn't feel like.

We were in my kitchen.

It felt like the season had expired.

Yeah.

And we're like, what is going on?

And I both felt the same thing.

Oh, yeah.

We did.

So

we're literally in her kitchen and we're like, listening to the songs that we would listen to on our California trip.

Like we were so sad girls.

We're like, we miss it.

And we just were talking to each other like, what would it look like?

You know, does God want us to move here?

Like, what, what do we do?

And we're just talking about if God even is going to break out in California, which we've been hearing about so much.

Talk about it.

And we're going to talk about it.

But we're just talking and hearing and at one another's opinions and thoughts and praying.

And then We end up coming back after my book launches.

We then end up coming back for like a vacation.

Like it's actually a vacation.

But also kind of like, all right, God, if you're going to show us that this is actually what you want us to do, because we were kind of getting an inkling.

Like it felt like God was just kind of like about it.

Yeah.

And we were like, okay, God, we need you to like really prove it then.

Cause if you want us to move, we'll do it.

But we needed, I think we just needed a little bit more confirmation.

Yeah, totally.

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And so we came back out and like, you know, met up with all of our friends, but also we were like, God, you need to just like speak while we're out here.

So we kind of did the same thing all over again.

We were looking at places,

stayed out here for like another three weeks.

We just kept posting.

We thought we were going to live in HB and then God said, No,

we were gonna live Huntington Beach.

We thought we were gonna live in the OC, Orange County, and we felt the Lord lead us to move to LA.

And Allie was like, Oh my goodness.

And I was just even thinking about this for Al.

She literally had so much faith to leave LA, live in Nashville, believe that like that was where her life was going to be for the next five to 10 years, whatever.

And then to have the faith that this girl had, that's crazy.

To up and move her life, still have unpacked boxes in Nashville, and then to go right back to California is literally insane.

And I don't think we talk about it enough.

She actually will go wherever God tells her to go.

She will.

We hear that in this, in this Bible.

Drop everything and follow me.

She, this girl does it.

I try.

She did it.

You know what really set me off?

This was the last moment for me is I went up into my bedroom and I look at my closet.

Well, okay, I'm downstairs making myself a coffee.

And all of a sudden, I hear this big

like from upstairs I'm like what is that and I go upstairs and all of my clothes my whole all of my clothes that I had hanging which was all of my clothes had collapsed and fallen on the floor

And I was like, I am not folding all of these and putting, and that was also at the same time, it was right after we got back from the trip.

And I was like, God, do you want us to move?

And then all of my clothes are on the floor.

And I was like, I took a video of it.

I still have it.

I said, I'm just going to start putting things in boxes again.

It is like, I was like, I am not going to hang all my stuff.

If God was really calling us to, that would be such a waste of my time.

I'm like, I might as well just put it.

I felt like it was God being like,

start packing your stuff.

Isn't that crazy?

I love him so much.

That is actually.

So we said God confirm.

And there were plenty of things, like little.

eggs that he was throwing and like showing us where he was like this is what i'm calling you to do like don't doubt it you know but we didn't have a house no see on our terms we're like well then give us a house why we're like where are we moving then then give us a home.

And then the Lord was like, why do you need a house to do it?

Like, if I'm calling you to do it, you should just trust that I will provide.

It was almost like we weren't willing to step out in that much faith.

Right.

But God was like, so if I told you to go and like, maybe you don't technically have a home just yet, would you still go?

And we were like, like, you shouldn't need a home to confirm this.

You know what I mean?

So we were like, you know what?

Ashley and I, I don't know what got into us.

It was just the whole thing.

We were psychotic.

We We said, okay, we're going to get an Airbnb.

We're going to rent out a storage space.

We're going to put all our furniture in there.

We're just going to figure it out.

I got my two dogs.

We're like, Ashley needed a new car.

So she's like, I'll leave my car.

I literally love my car.

We're driving across the country in my dog.

She was probably so funny with my two dogs.

It actually was very terrifying.

It was fun and terrifying.

Three days straight.

Nah, it wasn't terrifying.

It was fun.

Why is it terrifying?

There were some moments where I was like,

I don't think I'm physically going to make it.

I know.

We were just driving that much.

It's hard.

I drove from Boston.

It's awful.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

And there's a woman.

I was like, where is a man?

I was like, I just had to carry off this.

But it's fine.

We managed.

So did we, did you, sorry, to get off track, did you drive with the dogs?

Yeah, girl.

All the dogs were in there too.

Oh, yeah.

Every hotel, every

dog-friendly hotels.

But her dad was so kind.

He like literally mapped out, God bless your father.

God bless him.

He was like, hey, I got you, girls.

This is where you're going to stop on the at this time of this day and then you're gonna stay at this hotel so actually like we did have help yeah it was so and he helped plan the whole we knew exactly what hotels i know a lot so yeah we moved and we didn't have a house and that's starting out the story it's crazy that is actually but it started with your podcast yeah it did thank you jesus thank god you're here

god used you guys he used you i love you guys it's so crazy because everyone's moving from LA to Tennessee.

Oh, yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

Everybody.

Other ways.

Except for everything

going against the green.

They're like, see you, everybody.

We're going the way you're coming.

And you always say, right, that the only that, well, your faith was really formed in Nashville, right?

When you were there for those three months, but then your other purpose in going to Nashville was to go pick up Ashley.

Me and her.

Partner in crime here.

Yeah.

No, it's true.

Yeah.

My, my,

like, spiritual maturity,

it was supernatural.

I'm not saying I'm like super mature right now in the spirit, but I'm

okay.

But I was way, I just was alone with the Lord in the middle of West Hollywood, you know?

So at that point, before I moved to

Nashville, I was just doing the best I could watching the sermons online and like trying to go to church, but I really wasn't finding a whole lot of community.

And so anyway, with the church we got plugged in with in Nashville, it just to have that community, like if I could just speak life into anybody, I know I'm sure it's a desire of everyone's hearts, but like please don't settle for just going to church online because there was something for me, and I believe it's true for, it's what we're made for.

We were made to be in community.

We were made for church, but something about like my spirit man grew 10 times.

It was like the Grinch with his heart.

Like I grew so big just from being around so many people who were on fire for the Lord.

I was learning so much about things I didn't know about.

It's crazy.

I don't regret Nashville.

Even though I was only there for five months, it was so, so crucial for what the Lord was preparing me for with coming back out here.

So it was almost like a boot boot camp, kind of like a spiritual boot camp.

I went out there and then, of course, yes, I met Ashley and yeah, now we're here.

So that's crazy.

That's wild.

I just recently started plugging into a church the past couple of months and going to prayer sets like a few prayer sets a week, going to church, being around, like I can't even tell you my spiritual growth in a month and a half.

I'm a different person than I was two months ago spiritually.

And that's with like very little, like very little.

And I was doing the same thing that you were for a long time, Miss Prophetic Independent.

It's just me and Jesus.

But that's not biblical.

It's not biblical.

And it's not helpful.

But it's so tempting to like stay there.

To make your faith like your own thing.

You're like, but it's me and Jesus.

And all I need is him.

Yeah.

That's the thing, too.

It's like, well, I can learn anything I need from Jesus, which is true.

But like.

There is a part of us that was also made to edify and encourage and learn from each other as well.

All through Jesus.

It's all him.

Of course.

But it's necessary.

So he does everything through people.

He partners with us.

Everything is through people.

Yeah.

So beautiful.

Wow.

All right.

That's our story.

And then we move on to

the end.

As I said,

we did not have a house.

We do have a house now.

Yeah, right.

There's so much.

Yeah.

So you guys started a reality show.

I guess.

The Lord did it.

What is it called?

It's called Jesus Freaks.

Because there are a couple of Jesus freaks.

I love it.

If that story didn't say it yeah I think it's giving kind of freak how did you guys start it what was the process okay so it starts with Ash yeah this is crazy and this is on waiting I feel like there's a lot of people who might be listening to this and they're waiting so take heart when you hear this story so

it was two years ago now, I think.

And I was at this conference and I've been doing like YouTube for a while and I was kind of dabbling into like film, like, you know, creating like doc you vibes in YouTube.

Super, super elementary, like the lowest level of the lowest level.

But I was just like dipping my toe.

I'm at this conference and this guy who's really big in film and production in the Christian world was like talking about, you know, having Christian media in the world and in this culture.

And it dawned on me that, you know, we have shows like The Chosen and we have shows that are showing like biblical stories, House of David, great example, but we don't have a ton of media in TV that's showing how to live for Jesus right now.

And especially as young people.

So I'm like, okay, thinking about this, I'm like, this idea comes.

I'm like, okay, God, it's not from you.

That's crazy.

Then I look at where I'm at.

How do I create a film?

How do I create a production?

Nothing comes.

I think about like how to come up with investors and stuff.

And I'm like, doing this by myself.

I don't even know this girl.

And I'm like doing this by myself, sketching like business plans, all this stuff, and nothing's coming.

And I'm like, okay, I'm just going to, God gave me this vision.

He gave me the vision so clear.

And the vision has never changed.

He gave me the vision right then and there, two years ago.

I put that, my dad was like, okay, Ash, like just put this somewhere.

Put this somewhere and you're going to, you're going to take it out when you need it.

Like it'll come back when you need it.

So I wrote it down in faith.

I was like, all right, Lord, I'm going to just keep living my life.

Then I meet this crazy girl over here.

And

the first time we're hanging out together, so basically the show that God gave me was a docus series or reality show that's showing young people living for Jesus in this day and age.

So you're navigating your friendships,

your calling, relationships, like everything under the sun and showing that so that it's almost discipling a generation.

I was like, that's a great idea.

Kept it down, whatever.

Meet her.

And then what do you say on our first time hanging out?

First time?

Yeah.

She came over to my house.

I didn't have any furniture yet.

Half of it was blow-up furniture.

I just moved to Nashville.

And

yeah, we like ordered takeout or something.

We're standing in my kitchen and she's Miss YouTube queen.

Like vlogging, consistency, iconic, just like is so good at being consistent on YouTube.

And so I, I've always had like this feeling of like,

I want to document my life in real time and I've tried vlogging and it's fun but sometimes when I'm in it I forget to pick up my camera and I'm like oh my god I didn't even film half my day you know so I was expressing that like frustration as I was like gosh in this new year which was 2024 I was like I really want to get better with my YouTube and I said sometimes I just wish like people could just follow me around with a camera and they would just document my life in real time.

Almost like a Kardashian is what I said.

Like the Kardashians where they just have cameramen following them everywhere.

I'm like, that's what I want, because I can't be the one and I'm doing all of it.

And so Ashley's eyes like lit up and I'm like, what's going on over there?

What is that?

And then she shared with me.

So then we go to her blow-up couch.

Yeah.

We sit on her.

She's from Couch.

Yeah.

It's from Walmart.

It's a very blow-up couch.

And I go, I'm just watch this.

So I turn on the hills, season one, episode one.

I don't recommend that you watch this.

My Christian girl is.

It's worldly.

It's super, super.

My favorite show.

I mean, for all of you.

I mean, it's a great show.

It's actually so iconic, but not godly.

Anyway, we're watching it, and I'm like, imagine if this was for Jesus.

Like, imagine if there was something like this, showing real life, but with Jesus.

And so we start dreaming, planning all this stuff.

Freaking, freaking out, freaking out.

But we're in Nashville.

So we start thinking about it in Nashville.

We're like, okay, it's going to be in Nashville.

Like, who's all these people?

We're like getting the cast.

We think it's going to be like friends.

No, it's not.

It's a cast.

Just like all these people.

They were like just brainstorming.

It was brain girls.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

It didn't happen.

Here we are.

And we're like, play again, same thing that I had initially.

I'm like trying to come up with stuff of my own strength.

I'm trying to business plan.

I'm trying to like just put it together.

And like, it's just nothing's happening.

There's no grace.

Yeah, nothing was moving.

We would even call, we called a couple of people and we're like, hey, would you want to be a part of this?

And they were like, yeah, I love this.

And then just like, nothing happened.

I wish we could have been extras.

So I didn't know.

I didn't know you were.

We We didn't know each other.

And two, we were thinking like Nashville native.

Like, we were like, well, not natives, but people who lived in Nashville were like, we don't know how much sense it makes to make a bunch of people fly in from

poor.

So then it just feels unnatural.

And anyway, so then we just get to this point where we're like, all right, we're laying it down.

We're laying it down.

Same thing where we're going, same with my dad.

I was like, just put it down, put it down, put it down.

So we put it down.

We lived our life.

We grew in our church community.

And then, and then we get a call to go on Google Podcast.

And we are here.

And we're like, as we're here, like, oh my goodness.

We still have never been able to forget it, though.

It's one of those things where it's like, sometimes you feel like you can get a download from the Lord and then you surrender it and it never really comes back.

And you're like, all right, maybe that wasn't from God, you know?

But this was something where it was like, we had it surrendered, but it still was not leaving our minds.

You know what I mean?

Like it still felt like God wasn't done with that yet.

Yeah.

I think that's how you know something.

is from God.

A lot of people ask like, how do you know if a promise is from God?

How do you know if God has something for you?

And it's if you surrender it and it never leaves your mind.

It never leaves your heart.

It's right here.

Like that desire, God will give you the desires of your heart.

If you surrender your desire to the Lord and say, God, I want what you have for me.

And that desire never leaves.

That has to be from God out of his kindness.

I believe he would take those desires out

because we're surrendered.

We're like, okay, God, I just want what you want.

But he's just so kind, doesn't let this desire leave us.

So

we're like in California or we're planning on moving now and we're like, dang, it would be so great for this to be filmed.

Like, what if this is the show?

Like, it starts in Nashville,

but then we're documenting our move to LA.

That's what we thought.

Well, okay.

So then we're planning, we're talking.

There's a couple people we're even talking with.

I put together a pitch deck, an entire pitch deck.

And I'm like getting ready to pitch to people.

Nothing.

Yeah.

Nothing.

We did, actually, but yeah, I mean, nothing would happen from that.

The pitches.

Nothing.

Yeah.

So we end up going in that car, in that jeep, with the bottom of the car.

We're like, dang, God, you're really missing an awesome opportunity.

You know, like, this would be really inspiring.

Driving across the country.

But, you know, it just, he has bigger plans.

But it's so funny when we try to tell God, like, this, you're really missing in mirror.

He's like, can you just trust me?

I'm missing nothing.

Okay.

Just go with it.

Yeah.

So we end up moving and, you know, the show is not happening.

Nothing's happening, but it's in the back of our heads, as Allie Allie said.

And then we wait.

I think it's four months after living here.

It's September.

We're going through a lot of grief because this group that we were with left.

They were leaving.

And we loved them.

And they were like our first ministry partnering with here.

And they were leaving to go to another state because that's part of their ministry is they don't stay in one place.

And we're grieving because we're like,

we're so sad that they're leaving.

And Allie and I are fasting and we're praying.

And we're like, what is next, Lord?

Like, are we?

We felt like we were back to square one.

You know what I mean?

Like, it almost was like as we just moved to LA for the first time again, four months later.

Yeah.

Where it was like clean slate, community's gone, you know,

Jesus freaks still hadn't happened.

We're like, God, why are we, like, what do you want us to do out here?

You know,

we were really discouraged.

We were really, really discouraged.

Yeah.

And we just felt like we were at the end of, you know, our own plans.

And we were like, we don't know what we're doing here.

Are we even supposed to say or should we go with this group to the next state?

Are we even supposed to be in LA?

Just all these, this doubt was coming in.

And we started to fast and pray.

And then we went to the beach and we're literally on the beach.

We're not even talking to each other.

We're just listening to worship music.

We're just sulking

before like God.

Like, God's forgotten us.

Anyway, it was that moment.

And then we're driving home.

And I look at Allie.

And I'm like, Allie,

God spoke to me.

What did he say?

What did he say?

Whenever I say this, because I'm not like that all the time.

Like,

I don't say that a lot.

It's only when I know that it's the Lord.

And I said, you know, because what's crazy, I forgot to mention this.

Before we ended up, before we left for LA, we had our church pray for us and they prophesied over us.

And one of the girls was prophesying.

She was like, this is so crazy.

She's praying for us.

She goes, but I see there's cameras, and

it's bigger than like social media.

It's not like what you guys are doing right now.

Like you're being filmed.

You're being filmed.

And it's like ministry moments that you're being filmed for.

She's like, it's not a podcast.

She is so funny because she's like trying to figure it out.

She's like, what is this thing?

And we know exactly what it is.

She's prophesying.

She goes, and you know, you're going to record the miracles.

And it's going to be like film and TV.

And God's going to send you guys and all this this stuff.

And that's in May.

Nothing happens.

We're literally in September.

But one of the things she said, she goes, and God's saying it's going to be like a mix of like nostalgia with high definition film.

And God's saying, my project with my girls.

Oh my God.

I write that down.

I got waves.

Keep it in the back.

On the beach, I'm praying.

I'm saying, God, what do we do?

What do we do?

He says, my project with my girls.

We don't need anyone.

It was kind of giving like, my project with my girls.

That's it.

Just me and my girls.

He is so cute.

He's so cute.

And I think the obstacle that we kept hitting, and I think that why we needed to hear that.

again

was because we kept thinking like we needed a production house that we needed someone else to tell us that it was worth investing in we just and those were never anything god told us those were assumptions probably our own understanding that we were leaning on.

But we thought that there was no movement because we were like, God, you haven't given us the resources.

Like,

obviously we're waiting for someone else to say that this is worth investing in, you know?

Totally.

So that moment kind of clicked for us where we were like,

wait, God could potentially be telling us to do this, just the two of us with him.

Because we also thought, we're like, it can't just be the two of us.

Like, that's boring.

I don't know.

I thought that.

I was like, boring.

Like, we need more people.

It needs to be kind of like friends, but there's like five or or six dynamic, you know?

And God was like, my project with my girls.

That's it.

And so in the car, I'm like driving the car and I'm like, well, I was like, that's really uncomfortable for me.

Like, it's just going to be the two of us, but like, okay, God.

And it was funny because he actually had already given us the resources.

We had met so many incredible people since moving there,

people who were so talented in film and photography.

And Ashley had already had an editor.

So we actually literally had everything we already needed.

We decided to invest ourselves.

We're like, we can be the investors.

That's fine.

It might be a really, really, really small budget.

So we can do more with that.

Yeah, we just worked with what we had.

We worked with loaves and fishes.

And yeah, if you're waiting on the Lord, you just have to seek him and

really

just lay it down.

Lay down your idea of how you want it to go.

And you got to just go to God and say, what is your idea?

Do you want me to move or do you want me to stay?

Do you want me to wait or do you want me to go?

and just we like just we were fasting and praying when we got that word it wasn't when we were like you know strategizing we were like letting go we were we were just surrendered yeah

i love your friendship i'm sorry it's beautiful and i love that you guys have each other and lift each other up it's so beautiful we need each other you guys have a really beautiful friendship you're really so special i was actually gonna ask you guys um

that's amazing i one of my favorite things about you guys is,

and it's really inspiring and convicting, you guys don't do anything without God's permission.

Like, and it's to a level that I've never seen before.

Like, I'm not kidding, they don't do anything without consulting the laws.

She'll be like, God, what am I eating today?

I'm like, what should I get?

Matcha or nice.

When I was in the hair salon, I was like, dude, he loves it.

That's what he died for.

He tells you when you say that that's like, this sweet man came to fix our refrigerator the other day.

And I was like, he fixed it, obviously and he was I was like oh my gosh praise God I was like praise God like the refrigerator is fixed you know like it's been leaking for months and if you're our landlord you didn't hear that but

he was like he was like God had nothing to do with it like it's he just he was like it was an easy thing like it was no big deal like God didn't need to like waste his time with something this small is what he was basically saying.

He was like, yeah, God just has like much bigger things to do than to worry about a refrigerator, is basically what he was saying.

And I think that that is a very common narrative of people where they think that like

it would be

an inconvenience to the Lord to be like, God, what am I going to have for breakfast today?

You know, like the way that we live our life that way, I think a lot of people are afraid to do, maybe, or they don't know that God genuinely cares about every tiny little thing.

If you need help picking out a color top that day, he would gladly, gladly be like, we're blue, honey.

I love you in blue.

Oh, no, I'm sorry.

I'll cry.

And that's our God.

And that is how much he cares.

So anyway, don't be afraid to ask the Lord about every little thing and big thing in your life because he literally wants to be a part of every part of your life.

And nothing is too silly or too small or too big.

Not even a refrigerator.

Like he care.

And yes, praise God.

The refrigerator.

Praise God.

Well, it also, like, it trains you to invite him into everything.

Yeah.

Like, it trains you to consistently look for him, look to him.

And it just, you know what I mean?

So in the hard moments, because we always talk about how in the hard moments is the like time you should pray the most and it's probably the time it's hardest to pray.

And so if you practice always looking for Jesus, always looking to Jesus in every moment, you're naturally just going to do it when you really need him.

So that's really helpful, really inspiring.

What do you guys,

because you guys really do have such a special friendship.

Like it's insane.

What do you guys do?

Because you live together, you do ministry together, you're best friends, you do a lot together.

What do you do to keep your friendship healthy?

Just talk about it.

Oh, I love that question.

I would say one of the things that we've recently learned how to do.

Yeah, this is actually a good question because I feel like this has been a new thing.

Yeah.

Newer things we take navigating in our friendship.

Yeah.

It's having clear communication.

Like

If I'm feeling something or if I'm like sad about something or scared about something, I will just share it with her.

Yeah.

And or even if I feel like she's mad at me, I will be like, are you mad at me?

And it feels awkward and uncomfortable, but at the same time, like it allows space for us to share.

And like,

confrontation is huge.

Man, confessing to one another.

I just think clear communication.

And I think confessing is actually a different thing.

Yeah.

Confessing is confessing in what way?

I would say like when I just have feelings.

When i well yeah that but just when i know i have like a sin struggle and i need to repent and confess like that is so powerful like every time i do that with ow it's like she knows how to you know call me higher and um That strengthens our friendship so much.

Like I think that's a way to strengthen Christian friendship is to confess and pray.

Like it says in James, like pray for one another and confess your sins and then you'll be healed.

Yeah.

So we need to do that in our friendship.

It is really important.

Yeah.

Because also I think when you do so much life together, there is opportunity for like misunderstanding of things that are unsaid and then things that could be going through each other's heads that is not happening in the natural at all.

There are times where Ashley like

won't.

want to say anything to me out of like her flesh rightfully like it's really like she's like i don't want to hurt you but then with the silence there have been times where I've been like but I'd rather you just just literally I don't care how ugly it is but just tell me because then I'm sitting here not knowing so I'm just backing up like communication has been the biggest thing for us no matter how ugly it may sound like it's better to just be like let it just be all out here on the table than for us to just feel like we have to like silently or separately like navigate those things with the word yeah like that is important but also being like hey this is what's going on in my head right now.

Okay.

I just want you to know this is what's happening in my head.

Or like, I don't really know what to say right now.

So me being quiet doesn't mean that I'm mad at you.

Doesn't mean that I don't love you anymore.

So like, yeah, we've had to navigate those things and boundaries and all those things.

Cause yeah, it's

And yeah, I don't know why it's been more of a recent thing, but I think it's just because we've been, we've never lived together.

And now I feel like maybe once we hit like this point, it's like, I don't know.

You just get so comfortable with each other that it's like, those things are necessary.

What kind of boundaries do you guys hold for each other with each other?

If you guys are more comfortable saying it.

Well, Allie's more fresh on the boundaries.

I actually don't know what boundaries I have with Allie.

Honestly, like, I'm like, depending on how many of you have to do it.

No series.

Boundaries.

I have no dinner.

It's fine.

Yeah, because sometimes Ashley's like, wait, you don't want to have dinner with me?

And I'm like, no, I do want to have dinner with you, but I feel the Lord telling me that sometimes I need to make my own dinner because we'll eat dinner.

Like, she's always

like,

dinner.

And it's amazing.

Like it's such a luxury.

If it was my choice, I'd keep doing it.

But God was like, hey, so you're a big girl and she's been doing this for a year.

You need to start making your own dinners now too.

So like silly little, but they're important because it's like otherwise

I'm just like dependent on her in that way.

Yeah.

I'm not saying I'll never let her cook for me.

I want you to learn how to cook.

Yeah.

And it's the way she loves.

No, I love that you're growing in this.

Because you're going to have a husband someday.

I need to know how to cook.

And if I was dependent on Ashley Hetherington my whole life,

at least you would call Ashley to come over.

Sorry, babe.

The family needs to be fed and I never learned.

Yeah.

And I think something that's helped with, I guess, boundaries or just our relationship in general is like.

I just have to challenge myself to go, what is the best thing for Allie?

Like, what is the best thing for her?

What does God want for her?

How can I love and serve her?

And I feel like whenever I'm the most like unhealthy version of myself with Al, it's because I am only thinking about myself.

And I'm only, it's like, I'm just thinking, how is this going to affect Ash?

And God has to challenge me to go, no,

how can you love your sister?

If she's going to thrive cooking by herself, that is it.

I wouldn't say I'm thriving yet.

But, you know, it's like that.

God said, this is good for her.

I said, you know what?

You're right, God.

So you just got to go to the Lord and go, what is best for my sister?

That's what I want.

Like, even if we weren't supposed to live together forever, which would be so sad, but eventually, you know,

we're going to have families.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that day will come and i'll be like you know what that's the best thing and just looking out for the good of one another so beautiful so beautiful you guys speaking of um you know we're gonna have family someday sure we take it there girl can we dive into dating what's it been like

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Because if you guys came on a year ago, we talked about dating last time, right?

Oh, we did we did we talked about dating how has god knows what we said last year

we changed a lot

okay so

what compare yourself or you don't have to compare yourselves but like now versus last year what's changed what has this last year been like How's it going?

We always say you're not going to find a man in LA.

So you guys came to the perfect time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's really lived up to its

title there.

That's why I was kicking and screaming coming here because I'm like, Lord, Lord, one of the biggest desires, if not biggest desire of my life, of my heart is to be a wife.

And I'm moving to a city where there's a lot of men that don't want to get married.

So that was scary for me, but I'll just be so transparent, honest.

There has been a very much of a drought

in this city.

It's, well, I guess, I don't know.

It's God's timing, right?

But

it's okay.

You can say it up to you.

There was a lot of people.

I know.

I'm like, and I just, I want to to be real with the girls here.

Like, there was a situation where I literally like thought something was happening and it wasn't happening.

And it was really, really hard.

Yeah.

I think after that, it just fell and I didn't see it coming.

And I was like, oh, and that really hurt my confidence

and it hurt basically, I, yeah, a guy was not interested in me that I was interested in.

And that when that happens to you, it can really hurt your confidence.

It can make you doubt if God has someone for you.

And it's really hard.

And it's hard to get back up when you have a door shut in your face.

And I don't think we talk about this enough as women of God, how to deal with that.

Totally.

Thank you for saying that.

Yeah.

No, please, can you talk about it?

Yeah, so I want you to.

How did you do that?

Oh, my goodness.

So

I just was really sad because I had thought that God was doing something and I felt completely Delulu, completely Delulu and almost like sad that I had like believed that something was happening when it really wasn't.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, can I never mind?

No, you can say something.

Are you Delulu if you're being made to feel that way?

Can we, before we continue, can we just talk about something really quick?

Yeah.

Because I think this is really important because I know Ari and I have experienced this, coming into the Christian space and meeting men who say they love Jesus, who probably do love Jesus,

who call themselves a Christian.

And I think coming from the world, like in the world, we grew up, like you protect yourself.

It's a man's world.

Like you're on guard and you always protect yourself.

And then I remember coming into the Christian world, I'm like, it's safe.

Everybody loves Jesus.

It's a safe place.

Every guy is safe.

Every guy is safe.

The Christian mentors are.

Honestly, relationships in general, even like friendships or pastors or whatever, you just assume everyone is pastors, mentors, everyone.

So, and we've met guys who were like, you're a man of God, such a man of God, and then they end up not being the fruit is not aligned, so not aligned.

Do you want to speak on that at all?

No.

Okay.

Sorry for yourself.

I mean, it's hard because you go to church and you're like, okay, every guy is eligible.

Every guy is like a great guy.

And what it taught me was to, I mean, it's nothing on,

it's really just to look at the fruit and to look at what's actually happening and to get out of your head.

I was so in my head and I was imagining things that weren't actually happening.

So romanticizing.

And I was real, and I was, that was on me.

So I'm going to take accountability for that.

And I had to really learn that the hard way to like, if a guy is not asking you out,

he's not going to ask you out.

That's it.

Like, if you have been with him and you're hanging out with him and he's your friend or whatever and you're waiting for him to ask you out and he has not asked you out, you need to move on.

Yeah.

Because God has someone for you who is going to pursue you.

And if a guy is not pursuing you,

no matter how much he is showing you that he likes you, but he's not actually pursuing you, asking you on a date and like paying for your food.

Yes, actually.

Then it's not your man.

Then he's a friend.

So that's what God had to tell me.

That's exactly what Kelly said in Jay Freaks.

She said,

she said, oh, if, what did you say?

It was such a good line.

You said in the park.

There were so many lines.

Yeah, in the park.

Oh, whoa.

Oh, I know.

Oh, what did I say?

You're never going to be a single person.

You're always going to be the second option to every other man until you're the first option to your husband.

Why did I know that?

That was the holy.

I literally was out of body when I said that.

I said, where did that come from?

And then she said something where it was like,

you know, if you're not asking me out, I'm just going to say, okay, I thought it was just a friend.

Facts.

Girls.

Do not let your mind go there.

Like, just do not fantasy.

Think about it.

Please don't do that.

It's coming from experience.

Stop.

It hurts.

I would tell Ashley from a year ago, stop, get out of your head.

Like, look at the facts.

The right guy will pursue you.

So just move on.

So good.

So good.

We talk about this all the time.

We talk about it all the time.

And especially this day and age, guys

are beautiful, beautiful, beautiful men.

They just

lack confidence sometimes.

And so they want to play it safe.

And they don't want to get rejected.

And they don't want to get their egos hurt so they never actually put themselves out there but that's what men were made to do is put themselves out there regardless of what the response is like yeah and so we it's so funny it's such an attack on a on a man's like on the on the literal way that the lord has made man right

and because of that it then even spills over and hurts women yeah

you know because then women are getting asked out it's because guys are too scared of the enemy it's nothing against these men it's just just like it's just so clear that the enemy is here to discourage everybody.

100%.

So that was my dating experience.

It was actually, I haven't dated anyone here.

Well, anyone would be so blessed to have you.

And I can't wait to have a front row see you see whoever's blessed enough to have you.

I can't wait to be a bridesmaid.

You are all awesome.

You are a bridesmaid.

Guys, thank you for listening to that too, because that was just, that was vulnerable ass.

That was actually vulnerable.

One of the hardest things I had gone through in the last year here.

Well, because when you put your, I mean, we know this.

It's what Jesus teaches.

Do not put your identity in anybody or anything else.

Do not put your value, your self-worth in anything.

But like relationally, that's how we get hurt in life: is that people make us feel unwanted.

They make us feel rejected when really you could have been anybody else and it would have been the same.

Like it just has nothing to do with you.

It has nothing to do with you.

It really doesn't.

Your value is not tied to what somebody else thinks about you.

And so, but that's so helpful to hear.

And we all go through it.

We all go through it.

We all have been through it.

Yeah.

And like, how do you get up after you've been rejected?

You know, like after someone like literally, especially in a relationship, says, I don't want you, how do you get up from that?

Because, I mean, there's probably girls listening to this who are like dealing with that.

I feel like it's a matter of faith.

Like it, for me, I feel like it comes down to faith.

Either I can believe that this is not the way that my life was supposed to go, this is not what the Lord had planned for me, or I cannot believe that.

Yeah.

And I know if somebody walks out of my life or if somebody doesn't want me, that's obviously not my husband.

If I'm meant to be with someone, they're going to love me and pursue me correctly.

And so it's just about faith.

Either you believe what Jesus says, that he has a purpose and a plan for your life,

or you don't.

You know, it's like a matter of faith.

Yeah.

And

I, um, I mean, no matter what, like when pure love is met with rejection, it, I don't wish that pain on my worst enemy.

It's literally the worst pain in the world.

But when I look at my life, because I've gotten hurt many times over men, because that's where I always put my identity.

And then when I went through the worst heartbreak of my life, I saw that through the pain that what God did through my life, I'm like, thank you, Jesus.

So I know now that when he takes something away, it hurts, it's painful, you're going to grieve, you're going to hurt.

But boy, what he has for you on the other side of that.

I'm like, I can't even believe what he did through my heartbreak.

I would have never been here.

So, you would have never known him.

I would have never known him.

So, it's like through that pain, he's doing something, but I know it could be, it's so hard to understand

that like pain, that rejection, it hurts.

Yeah, and it's also like

not to, because you, and

you never want to put too many spiritual bows on top of things.

I feel like sometimes

it's really helpful to know that people hurt people.

Like that's what happens throughout life.

That's why we have Jesus.

That's why Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit to be our comforter because he knew that we were going to get hurt by each other.

And it's always going to happen.

And you just have to allow the Lord to meet you in your pain, meet you in your rejection.

You read the word.

You let everything that he says about you wash over you.

And you just have to understand that it happens to everybody.

and most of the time it has nothing to do with you and nothing you end up repeating the patterns right it's i love that you say that her people hurt people it's so true yeah and jesus was rejected jesus was despised jesus was abandoned betrayed i i know now more than ever like with things that i've gone through like oh

all the times if you pray the prayer make me like you jesus

Buckle up because he takes you through things

to make you like him and he went through him.

Even his suffering.

He went through the hardest things and he was deeply rejected.

He's still thrown away.

He's still told that he's not enough for people.

Yeah.

Oh, good point.

Yeah.

When people don't choose him, they're like, you're not enough.

That's not enough for me.

I need this instead.

People reject him today and say, you're not enough.

Jesus doesn't take that personally.

If anything, he like loves them, you know, even in that.

Yeah.

So I think also like,

yeah, just remembering that to not get bitter about these things and to remember that we're also called to love people.

Totally.

Yeah.

Even when they hurt us.

Yeah, you guys up to me a lot because when she first they were first telling me that story, I start going like, what's like, what?

Like very protective.

And they were going, we bless them.

I was like, yep, that's what it is.

We bless them.

Never mind.

Scratch your back.

Because it's not even worth it.

Yeah,

that's what I said.

No, that's especially when People who do reject you or friends that reject you or people who close doors, like you bless them.

You bless them because it's God's will ultimately.

Yeah.

Do we have types?

Do we, are we?

You're dating exciting.

Oh, you do.

You're dating.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not dating.

I went on one date.

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Okay.

And he wasn't even from LA.

No, he flew in from Ohio.

That's crazy.

He just did.

Right.

So, like, here's the thing.

That's special.

This is the mind.

This is the mindset the Lord gave me through that.

Well, I will say that that date did bless me, and I bless him, like, truly, truly, truly.

Didn't work out.

That's okay.

But what the Lord really showed me in that, well, one, I had never been treated so well.

So I think the Lord just wanted me to be like, hey, so this is the standard.

I know you've believed in it, but this, it exists.

That was your first date after following Jesus, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I haven't been taking on a date.

Never mind.

A long time.

So anyway, a first woman, a long time, and first Jesus loving man.

So anyway, but what God

showed me a lot of things, but above all else is he said, I will make a way, girl.

I will make a way.

Your story is exactly the same way, but it's like, we talk about how awful it is here in LA and we can, you know, poop all over the dating out here, whatever.

But like, God can make it happen.

any way he wants to.

He can fly the man from across the country.

And I also was like, dang, I didn't think a man would ever, like, I didn't know that that was an option.

I didn't know that that was a thing.

I didn't know any man would want to do that for me.

So I just, I felt so, I was like, God, you're right.

You can do whatever you want, you know?

So I think it's a matter of, yeah, just trusting that the Lord can make it happen, even if they don't physically live here.

Yeah.

Like, you never know what the Lord could have planned.

So, have you guys been struggling, like, being single, or has it been, has it been easy, or has it been like a little bit of a struggle?

Because you have been single for how long?

Gosh.

Oh,

like maybe three years.

Three years.

And you've been single for

single for six years.

Wow.

A long time.

And I was in relationships like from 16

to 21.

Yeah.

Like, oh, I also was like,

you are activists.

Jump.

You know, I lived.

I would jump ship.

I'd be like, all right, this one's about to end.

You and I, then she's saying so bad.

No, it's so bad.

So bad.

So then being

ever since being like, Party don't know it.

On to the next man.

Right?

That is so good.

No, I wouldn't really grieve, which is crazy.

But ever since being all in for the Lord, I haven't had a serious relationship.

I've like dated, like I've gone on dates, but I haven't like dated

like a man of God where we're like serious.

And

it's weird, but there are some nights that I'm like, God, what are you doing?

But I feel like it's just at the altar.

I just, you get to a point where you're trying to strategize enough and you're like, I just have to put this at the altar.

And if it comes back, it's for me.

And if it doesn't ever come back, like, that wasn't for me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's hard to get to that place.

It is.

It really is.

It's a battle every day, right?

It's like one day you feel good about it.

The next you might not.

It's true.

It's like, yeah.

And you.

I love being single.

I kind of like it.

No, I don't.

I actually really would love to be my husband.

But what I will say is that for me, I think it's more of like,

like when I kind of get like sad girl about it, it's like I almost miss someone that I haven't met yet.

Like it's almost like I can like feel that he exists in the spirit.

I don't know if it sounds, but like I do.

Like I know he's real.

I can feel him.

And I pray for him all the time.

And I, I know that he's praying for me.

So it's more of like a.

Like a longing, like an aching.

Like I'm like, I know, like, I miss him, even though I don't know him.

So it's like times like that, where it's not so much where I'm like,

God, do you even have a man it's actually like i know he's out there but i'm like where it like dang god like

when are you gonna introduce us so but yeah i mean i think it's it's yeah it's a roller coaster like you said some days you're like yeah i'm fine and then other days you're like oh well i really wish i had my man

something that i just thought about because i feel like we talk about this all the time where we're like Because people are like, God's not going to send you your person until you're like content with being alone.

Like it's a test.

And yeah, like you're not true.

Like you're earning your man

by being good enough.

You're like, okay, I'm content now so you can give me my reward.

It's not how God loves you.

It isn't.

No, 100% it's not.

And I, and I think when people say like you have to be content on your own before you could be content in a relationship, I look at you guys honestly and I'm like, okay, so this is what it means.

It doesn't mean that the desire for a relationship is gone.

It doesn't mean that you aren't sad sometimes or that your heart is longing.

It just means that you have the right right perspective on dating and marriage that you know that this person won't fulfill you.

This person won't fix your problems.

This person won't give you confidence.

And you're not looking, longing for someone to come feed something inside of you.

Fulfill you.

Yeah.

You're longing for your life partner to come into covenant.

So that's what it's about.

It's about the right perspective.

That's what real contentment is.

Not that one day you wake up and you're like, don't care anymore.

I don't even want to be married.

Something that I found, to be completely honest, that I can bring here, it is so hard to continue believing

that he exists when it's been so long and when there's been shut doors.

Oh my gosh, she just got goosebumps again.

That is hard.

And we know that with Abraham and Sarah, it was years.

They were praying and waiting for a child.

And it wasn't happening.

I don't know how Abraham and Sarah kept believing.

Sarah actually stopped believing.

You know, and so how do we keep believing

in

something that hasn't left our heart?

That's one of the hardest things I think we'll learn to do as believers.

Oh, 100%.

You know,

tough.

It is.

It is.

It's something I'm going through right now, too.

You know, keep believing.

And it's just hard.

It's hard us women when we have that desire to be moms, to be wives.

It is.

It's like one day you're good, the next day you're like, okay, hello.

Hello.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

it's something I'm walking through right now.

It's sometimes even hard for me to answer to people because I'm like, I don't know, I'm walking through it right now.

I'll let you know.

Yeah, but I get that.

Yeah, right.

Like, sometimes you don't even know.

You're like, I'll let you know when I get there.

I'm actually in this boat with you.

So true.

Just more than enough.

People just want to know that they're not alone.

Yeah, that's really what it is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I actually think the Lord can speak on this.

Yeah.

I think

sometimes when we don't, when we need faith, we need to ask the Lord to remind us of the promise and just ask him and say, God, you sure this is coming?

And just like bring it to him.

Right.

And then see what he says.

Like seeking him and saying, God, I need you to remind me of your promise.

Because in scripture, he would do that all the time.

He would remind people of the promise, of what he was going to do.

So if we're not in tune with the promise keeper, then we're going to lose faith.

Yeah.

I think one thing I'm really proud of us all is that we're not settling.

We're not settling.

And that's, I mean, obviously we could date people, but we're all just trusting God and we're not settling.

And I think so many of us settle.

They settle because they don't want to be alone.

So this is, I don't know who this is for, but don't settle because you're in the season of just feeling so lonely where you're like, okay, maybe I'll call him up, you know,

because you do not want to end up with a counterfeit.

That will be harder than being alone.

Yeah.

And I think that's typically just always rooted in fear, which is real.

It's a real fear.

Yeah.

You know, sometimes these men could have all of that.

And you're like, okay, he does love Jesus with all of his heart, mind, and soul.

And, you know, he speaks really highly of his mother and he treats the waitress really great and he opens every door for me and he's really great.

So like,

why does it still feel like maybe it's not?

And I think what I want to touch on is that I do believe that the Lord gives all of us like intuition or like, yeah, discernment, gut feelings, like however you want to label it.

But I do believe too, that if you feel it's a little off, even though he could literally be Prince Charming, he could be perfect on the outside, because I think that's also a very possible thing.

If there is a little part of your tummy or your heart or your mind that's like,

That's how I think you would know too.

Because you're not going to feel that way about your God-given partner.

Like, like sent by God.

So good.

Ain't no way a sliver of yourself.

I'm not saying that you can't be fearful.

Like I think sometimes maybe I'm talking, I don't know, I've never experienced it, but maybe it could be kind of scary where you're like, dang, this is like, this actually is feeling like the real deal.

Like, I don't know.

Maybe that was.

This isn't what I expected, but I like it.

Why am I like, you know, really into this?

Yeah.

There's a difference between that and like gut feeling of like something is off.

Yeah.

And I do think you need to, like, I've met so many people now, beautiful Christian couples, where in the beginning, um,

one person was like, absolutely not, would never, and now they're married for 10, 15 years, have children, and are

obsessed with each other.

Like, when they're dating, and like, the girl's like, I would never date someone like him.

And then he keeps pursuing, and then he finally gets her, and then she's like madly in love.

Like, I know multiple stories of this.

So, I just think you like, God can do it.

It's discernment.

Yeah.

And I just, it's hard because you don't want to over-spiritualize things together.

totally

yeah no because I have met people too

I met this beautiful couple at the show and she was like I met him and he had just found Jesus and like he wasn't deep in his faith and now like we're on this beautiful journey together so God can do that and that can happen too for sure

It's hard.

Like, obviously, yes, we want amazing men of God that can lead us, but there are also situations where like someone comes from brokenness and then they find Jesus and you meet them and you like chase them together.

So

you just need a really good guy who loves Jesus, even if maybe he's a new believer.

I don't know.

As long as he's running in the direction, that's what it's about.

It's okay if he's running.

He's praying about it and you've got peace.

Like, yeah, that's what I mean.

Yeah.

But you do want to make sure he's leading you

and also like leading you in purity too.

I feel like sometimes really new

guy believers can be like a little on the fence with the purity thing and you just want to make sure that we're not doing that, you know?

And I I speak that from experience.

Absolutely.

Yeah, you have to, you have to.

As long as he's running after Jesus, we all know that that's the

basis of everything.

But it's funny because with John, for example, like

I think I was always so used to, because every one of my relationships have always been worldly and they've always been lustful and.

never

walking in true, true purity.

And so when I met John,

I I wasn't like

freaking out.

We were not freaking out.

Like it was calm.

It was sweet.

He wasn't like too much.

I wasn't too much.

It honestly felt like kind of two friends meeting

for the first time.

It wasn't anything too much.

And so in the past, I would have been like, oh, it's not like, it's not right.

But then we kept hanging out.

We went on more dates.

And then like the love grew over time.

And so, but I didn't like psych myself out.

I feel like I see a lot of people who kind of psych themselves out sometimes where like they think a little bit too much.

I probably could do that.

I probably do that.

You know,

you have to give people a shot as well.

Do you agree?

Yeah.

You know, because yes.

Because

I, and I think you and I talked about this, where like the butterflies, like, that's what we used to think was love.

Yeah.

But it's peace.

It's so much peace.

Peace.

And butterflies kind of like give anxiety.

For me.

It's peace.

Like peace.

Totally.

Because you ultimately had peace.

Oh, so going on these dates and

meeting the sweet man.

So you guys love John.

I know the I love John.

He knows.

I'm seeing him in a couple days.

Every time I see him, I'm like,

such a good cat.

He is so sweet.

But you have peace.

And so it's like, okay, if you're going on days with guys, I feel like I don't have the space to give this advice because it's been a while.

But if you are going on dates with guys and are going on a date with a guy and you don't have peace,

you got to trust that.

If you're praying and you don't have peace, got to trust that.

But if you,

if he's not even your type, but you somehow have a peace, keep going.

Give it a chance.

Oh, that's right.

Break ideals.

Break any ideals that are not going to be a good idea.

Sometimes God wants to surprise you.

You know what's the counterfeit too?

The love bombing.

That's for sure.

Okay.

All right.

We got to pinpoint that.

God said that you're my wife and we're going to get married literally tomorrow.

I mean, I get a lot of those.

Oh man.

Stop coming up to my friends.

Stop coming up to my friends.

It's too much.

I mean, I've never seen.

Why are you, why are you struggling?

I've never seen one proposal in my life.

She gets proposed to you every day.

Yeah.

You guys love spending time in the secret place.

We talk about the secret place a lot.

Love the secret place.

Best place to be.

Who die for the secret place.

Can you talk to us both of you about your secret place, your intimacy with Jesus, what your quiet time, what your spiritual life looks like, how you seek his face?

Yeah.

Well,

that's like the most intimate area of my life, obviously.

But whatever you're comfortable with.

I just weep.

I just,

yeah, I just cry a lot.

And I'm just, I'm so grateful every time I get in his presence.

And

yeah, a lot of it is just me just like telling him how grateful I am for him.

And it's listening to music, like worship music every time early in the morning.

I don't know why.

I mean, it's biblical, but it's like you get up in the early morning and there's something about.

spending time with Jesus like before 8 a.m.

you know

like even this morning it's hard for me to do that but when I do it's like the best secret place time

you know

but yeah it's just intimate And it's, yeah, I started doing it at five.

Girl, I haven't in this past couple weeks, but it's changed everything.

It's giving real proverbs.

Your eyes would change, like literally everything, your countenance.

Yeah, it's true.

Everything is so quiet still.

He's like, no one's in their cars yet.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

And the more time you spend with God, the more you look like him.

Yeah.

You start to actually radiate that Jesus glow.

When you get

a place like that, it's like.

You have to talk about the Jesus glow.

it's like an aroma yeah on you like and people before you even open your mouth they like can smell it on they like see it on you and they're like what is that like i walked into staples the other day it was was it or was it office depot she's like every time you i haven't even opened my mouth yet i was in the secret place right before but she's like Every time you come in here, like your energy, it's this older woman.

She's like 72 maybe.

And I was like, it's Jesus.

She's like, oh well you know what we all got to have our thing that keeps us and I'm like right he is the thing but

anyway I don't know what I'm saying right now but um yeah it's just it's just praising him and

I really love to just receive encouragement from him because a lot of times he's reminded me I am so eager to praise him that sometimes he's like hey so I need to fill you.

Like I love this, but it's a two-way street, you know?

So there have been times where Jesus has been like,

I love this and I love your heart and I know you want to tell me how great I am.

I'll receive it anytime.

But I need to pour into you.

And so I've actually gotten a lot better about getting into that stillness and being like, okay, Lord, what do you want me to know today?

What do you want to tell me about me?

You want to tell me that I'm great?

Like, I don't know.

I just, I need to hear that from my dad.

I need to hear that he's proud of me.

I need to hear just encouragement from him and that,

yeah, that I'm just in his will.

Like,

so, yeah, anyway, that's what it looks like.

Gosh, that's beautiful.

Yeah.

I also need encouragement from my dad.

And I'm like, what am I doing wrong today?

Tell me.

No, I'm literally like, listen, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

No, there's so much.

I'm just like to repent.

I'm like, God, I know I'm a flawed human.

And he's like, actually, I want to tell you how great you are.

And I'm like, what?

He wants to encourage Annie.

He does.

He wants to tell you how great you are, Andy.

What a beautiful thing to say, Lord.

I need encouragement.

Would you just encourage me?

I'm putting that on my head.

I'll be 5 a.m.

tomorrow.

First thing you do, girl, do it.

Oh, you're going to weep.

You're going to be like, you think that of me?

It's crazy.

Since I've opened my heart, I know we have to stop.

I'm like, you think that of me?

Like,

I've never just slowed down to ask him that, you know?

And it's like, we get all this praise online and it's great, but it's like, I want to know what my dad thinks of me, you know?

So do that tomorrow.

You're so special.

You're so special.

You guys are giving me chill bumps the whole episode.

Well,

something God has been teaching me is you can bring this secret place with you every day, wherever you go.

I used to think I only had the secret place in the morning, but I'm learning.

You can bring the secret place when you listen to worship music, when you're working and when you're driving.

You can bring the secret place with you when you're at the coffee shop and you don't know if you should get matcha or coffee and you just like pray and you're just like praying.

You're bringing the Lord into every situation, every encounter, every relationship, everything.

Like the secret place is with you.

He tore the veil.

It's with, he's with us all the time.

Like,

he's here.

He's right around us.

So the secret place is always with us.

And that's something I'm learning is like this word can, I like sleep with it, but I also can like take it with me everywhere I go.

Yeah.

I love that he tore the veil.

You can step into the holy of holies anymore where

you are.

You bring that masha and coffee into the holy of holies and you ask him.

By the way, I love that video that you posted before and after your jesus call i was like that is you posted that yeah right recently the other day yeah she was like

drinking alcohol and no one knows that about me no one thinks everyone thinks i'm like this

perfect christian girl in this perfect christian household like i did not like follow jesus for most of my life

so wow but you never know you wouldn't looking at her you'd never know

but i do know because of you just have this um you know that you've been through so much You can tell that you've, you've gone through so much brokenness.

And like, that's why you relate to so many people.

And that's why, although it's so beautiful to come from a Christian home, it's also beautiful when you've messed up so many times and then you find Jesus because look at how many people you're helping through your brokenness.

It's like, it's so beautiful.

So

welcome.

I love you guys so much.

We love you.

I love you.

Thanks for wanting us back.

You guys don't come next week?

Yes.

we love you guys honestly

maybe we'll start

together i'm so good

i mean

can we come on um geez freaks yeah you know what you guys are actually in my mind already in episode you know i mean what you're already there we don't know what's next with geese freaks right so if there's a season two of course there's a season two

come on there has to be right i'm prophesying right now yes amazon Lewis.

Netflix.

All of them.

The thing is,

it's at the altar, but we are believing that God is going to, God's going to do something with it.

He's going to pick it back up and he's going to.

But you guys have got to be on it.

Drinks and go get on.

It is so cute.

We can do it the whole time at the beach.

Guys, love you, love you.

Thank you for coming here.

I love you.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.

I hope you made it this far.

I love you.

You guys, thank you guys.

May the Lord bless you and keep you.

May he make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you.

May he turn his face towards you and give you peace.

Shalom, shalom.

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