Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner

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Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang with me, Amy Poehler.

Speaker 1 Very excited about our guests today, Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner, two great women who make up the podcast Giggly Squad. You may have listened to them on there.

Speaker 1 You may have seen them all over your social media. You might have met them in the Bravo

Speaker 1 reality show Summer House, which is great. And one of them is still on it.
And the other one is long gone. But we are going to talk about really fun things today.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about stand-up comedy. We're going to talk about female friendship.
We're going to talk about pimple patches. We're going to decide what is the best medication for anxiety.

Speaker 1 So keep listening, check it out. And we always want to start every episode with people that know our guests or is a fan of our guest or has an idea of what they think I should ask our guest.

Speaker 1 And who better to talk about two young, wonderful women than the mothers of these wonderful women? So we've got Lenore and Kimberly.

Speaker 1 Hannah and Paige's mothers joining us today who were so delightful. And I could have talked to them all day.
So let's hear what they have to say.

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Speaker 1 I'm so thrilled you guys are talking to me today. Thank you so much.
We're doing this. We do this thing on Good Hang where we

Speaker 1 check in with people who know the guest or who are fans of the guest or who want to tell me questions they think I should ask the guest.

Speaker 1 And we thought there was no better people to talk about Paige and Hannah than their moms.

Speaker 2 I would say that's probably true.

Speaker 1 They played at Radio City. What is it like to see your kids playing Radio City?

Speaker 3 I still don't believe it.

Speaker 2 No, it was unreal. It really,

Speaker 2 I just,

Speaker 2 we pinched ourselves. I'm like, this can't be happening.

Speaker 3 I remember when they booked it, I just thought, you're like, I couldn't believe that was happening. And then they sold out the first show and added a second show.

Speaker 3 And then I I thought, oh no, they're never going to sell tickets to a second show. And then they sold out the second show.
And I thought, what is happening?

Speaker 2 And we get nervous for them, but we don't tell them. Like, when Nora is exactly right, when I'm like, you're adding a second show for Radio City, what are you nuts?

Speaker 1 Like, no way are you going to sell that out? What was it like being on tour, Kimberly? You went on tour with the girls. Where did you go? How long were you there? And what was it like?

Speaker 2 I love it. I mean, it's just, you know, I stay, I don't go out on stage or anything.
Our husbands have gone out on stage, but

Speaker 2 I just stay in the background and I'm just really there if she needs something, you know.

Speaker 2 And it's nice to be with the girls. And I love watching.

Speaker 2 I always say the best part of their show is when they're first together, whether it's in the green room or they're getting their hair and makeup done, because

Speaker 2 when Hannah and Paige are together, it's like no one else exists. And they're just, it's a show.

Speaker 1 I always say to my sister oh you have to come when they're getting their hair and makeup done because that's the best part right lenore i mean yeah the warm-up act i think their bond is just incredible and so needed in today's environment really i agree i feel like their genuine friendship is really nice to be around i think that's what you like so much about them is how genuine they are as people but then their friendship and bond with each other is why you keep coming back yes You know, and

Speaker 1 Lenore, what was it like to have your daughter be on reality TV?

Speaker 3 Honestly, I don't know how Paige has hung in there so long.

Speaker 3 Let's just say it wasn't a good fit.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 It was not a good fit for Hannah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Stressful.

Speaker 3 You know, she jokes about how, you know, she's an athlete. She's very coachable.
And so you put a producer in her ear and tells her, oh, you know, do this. It'll be great.
Do that.

Speaker 3 And she's like, tell me how high to jump. I'll do it.
And then she doesn't realize she's making a disaster for herself in the edit.

Speaker 2 To Hannah's credit, I always say this. If Paige went through what Hannah did on the reality part of it, Paige would have moved back home and you would have never seen her again.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 really, I say that to Paige all the time. Like, I am so impressed with Hannah's perseverance.
And I mean, she blew everyone out of the water, you know, just having a Netflix special.

Speaker 2 Like, come on, who, you know, she's a fighter and she's very competitive.

Speaker 3 So, that you couldn't take away from her.

Speaker 1 I'm wondering if there's a question that either one of you think I should ask them. Anything you want to know doesn't have to be big or deep.

Speaker 1 It can be, is there anything you think I should ask them today? Are you pregnant?

Speaker 3 I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll start the podcast podcast by asking them both that.

Speaker 2 I think, though, a great question is: like, are they enjoying themselves?

Speaker 3 Right. I,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 what do they enjoy about it?

Speaker 1 Well, I am so thankful that you guys gave time today. I think they're going to be thrilled that we got to talk today.
I mean, now you're making me think I should always talk to everybody's mom.

Speaker 1 Because you really do get a sense, really get a sense really fast. I'm sure you feel this way too.
When you meet somebody's parents

Speaker 1 and the older you get, when you meet somebody's parents, you're like, oh,

Speaker 1 now I get it. And it's either a now I get it, I understand why they're so great, or sometimes it's a now I get it, why they're so fucked up.
Well, right?

Speaker 3 But maybe you should have the dads on.

Speaker 1 No, it really means a lot that you both gave time. And I'm excited to talk to them.
I think they're so great.

Speaker 1 And the stuff that they've built together, I think, is an indication of the strength of female friendship.

Speaker 1 I think it's, you know, it's a natural resource, female friendship, and the way it drives the world. And the way they talk about it and model it is really, really cool and special.
So thank you both.

Speaker 1 It's really nice to meet you both.

Speaker 2 Really, it was an honor. I never was this on my bingo card.

Speaker 1 Pages I know.

Speaker 3 I'm like, what?

Speaker 2 Huge fan, Amy.

Speaker 1 We love you, Amy.

Speaker 1 Thanks, you guys. And you both sound exactly like your daughters, and you look like their older sisters.

Speaker 1 you look gen x all the way

Speaker 1 the mom giggly squad

Speaker 1 thank you so much thanks bye

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Woo-hoo!

Speaker 1 Hi, Hannah and Haig. Hi, Amy.
It's so good to have you guys here. We're thumbing through your book, How to Giggle, which we're going to talk about.
We have to say thumbing. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 We should bring up

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're thumbing. You know, I have so many things I want to talk to you about today.

Speaker 1 I am huge fans of both of you, and I love your podcast. And I love your friendship, and I love you individually and together as a unit.
Oh my god,

Speaker 1 that's actually the only credit we need. Yeah, once I heard she listens to the pod, I was like, we can retire.
Yeah, we're done.

Speaker 1 What is there to do? It's only downhill from here. That's for sure.
I'm here to tell you it is.

Speaker 1 I feel like we can talk about that. About how life goes downhill.

Speaker 1 No, but I talk to your moms.

Speaker 1 And, you know, so we have this thing on Good Hang where we talk kind of about people behind their back in a good way.

Speaker 1 I'm like, your moms had shit to say.

Speaker 1 But they are so great.

Speaker 1 They, of course, love you so much.

Speaker 1 But if they were like, the girls are monsters. Yeah.
This is an intervention. A lot.

Speaker 1 And they had questions that I wanted to start our interview with because I thought they were really important, pertinent questions for the both of you. Hannah, Lenore wanted to know, are you pregnant?

Speaker 1 And that age. That's a wild question.
And Paige, Kim wanted to know, are you enjoying yourself? Oh, that's such a her question. Two extremely difficult questions.

Speaker 1 No, we can get to them later, but they're both answers.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Easy done. Not pregnant and not having fun.
Not having a good time. No, but I will say, yes, I'm having a great time.

Speaker 1 Like, in the past year, Hannah and I, I feel like our careers have kind of taken a turn, but I would not be having this much fun if I wasn't doing it with Hannah.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if it would be the same experience at all. I mean, I know it wouldn't.
It's a Stockholm syndrome, what you're hearing from her.

Speaker 1 Okay, so for people listening, like my mom who might not know Giggly Squad,

Speaker 1 who, can you guys quickly tell us how you came together? You're doing your podcast, Giggly Squad, but how did you first meet and how are you a team?

Speaker 1 Do you want to go or do you want me to go? Okay, I'll begin. Also, by the way, we are in a like non-sexual marriage.
So, if we have that kind of interaction, half of America. We're in a partnership.

Speaker 1 Yes, half of America. So, we, and let me know if I'm overstepping,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 we're like, we'll talk about this later.

Speaker 1 You embarrass me in front of Amy. You embarrass me in front of Amy.
So, talk about that. So, anyway, Giggly Squad is sleeping on the couch.
We're just trying to not explain what Giggly Squad is.

Speaker 1 People are like, they don't know what their own podcast is. No, Giggly Squad, it stemmed from Paige and I both got casted on a reality TV show, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was never what Paige wanted to be an entertainment reporter. I wanted to be a stand-up comedian.
And we found ourselves on reality TV scared, alone,

Speaker 1 worried.

Speaker 1 But we like had this trauma bond from it.

Speaker 1 And people liked our friendship, which is weird. It's weird for anyone to comment on you when they don't really know you.
Totally.

Speaker 1 But for some reason, in the reality TV zeitgeist, they were like, and Paige are entertaining and relatable, I guess. Yeah, and I think we, like, obviously we didn't know anything about reality TV.

Speaker 1 So like we would watch it back and we would be like, oh, we feel like we were funnier while we were filming. Or we feel like people aren't really getting our friendship.

Speaker 1 They definitely cut the best punchlines for this. Because we'd be in the bathroom and we'd be like to the camera guy, like, hey, why don't you come with us?

Speaker 1 We're going to like really run a bit in the bathroom. And they're like, we don't care.
We didn't realize that there's a basic storyline. We don't have room for this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a basic storyline, and they have to cut down to 42 minutes. Yeah, and Paige and I are going on these callbacks.
And we're yeah,

Speaker 1 there's nothing to do with that. I'm like, oh, that's definitely going to be in the show.
That was hilarious. And like, of course, it's not in there.

Speaker 1 All my interviews, they'd be like, we need you to be angrier. And I was like, I don't even remember.
I was drunk, so I don't know why I'd be mad. But fast forward, COVID hits.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're FaceTiming. Everyone's depressed.
Everyone's scared. Again, more traumatic.
And we're both home in our parents' houses. And we're like Lenore and Kimberly.
Yeah, and we're like 28 years old.

Speaker 1 And we're like, so what's going to happen to us? Like, are we going to get married? Are we going to like start a business? Like, what's going to happen? Like, all the COVID things.

Speaker 1 Are we going to live? And so we would FaceTime for like four hours a day. And we'd be like.
We're funny. Like, this is funny.
People would think we're funny.

Speaker 1 And so then we were like, okay, let's just go on Instagram live. It was a time.
I thought that was a thing. I thought that was a thing.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm a weird, like I have weird blind spots about all that stuff because I just started doing social media like a couple years ago because I was on I Know Instagram.

Speaker 1 I know it sounds so beautiful. I'm so scared.
We are so envious of you about it. What is Instagram? When I saw you on Instagram, I was like, oh no.
I know. You say goodbye to your innocence.

Speaker 1 It's so true. Like, I really, and, but I know about Instagram Live.
I think I've done a few, but I never, but it was a weird time. Yeah.
Yeah. It was very weird.

Speaker 1 I remember the first time we went live, Justin Bieber also went live. And then we created dummy Jume or soon we created a beef.
We were like, they don't support women in the arts.

Speaker 1 And they knew we were going live at this time. And then they went live.
It was such a weird time. It was so weird.
And so we went live every single night. For three months.
10 p.m. 10 p.m.

Speaker 1 For an hour. That's how Giggly Squad started.
It was just the two of you just kidding. And you were talking.
We were diligent. 10 p.m.
We were going on.

Speaker 1 Sometimes we'd mix a cocktail.

Speaker 1 And so it started where we'd have like 500 people watching. Then the next night was like 2,000.
Then the next it was like 5,000.

Speaker 1 And we were like, wait, this like what's going on and we had no like structure

Speaker 1 no structure right and then nothing was happening every day what were we possibly talking about but we were in the yeah we were in

Speaker 1 it was like this community of of women and gays that like wanted and just like curious straight men who

Speaker 1 which is the most dangerous kind of a straight man yeah we've been less straight men who are no no no no who are bored no that's when bad things happen no no no why are you bored go answer an email so they they would like comment comment all these funny things, and we were like, what is this community of girls who are so funny and silly?

Speaker 1 And it was this light. And then

Speaker 1 we had to go film

Speaker 1 summer house. And we had to stop doing the lives because we were locked in a house.
And then the world kind of opened up and we were like, okay, I guess we'll make it a podcast.

Speaker 1 But we had no, like going into it, we weren't like, we should start a podcast together. So it just kind of naturally happened.
We actually had to debate.

Speaker 1 I was like, because I'd been podcasting for a bit. Right.
And I was like, Paige, you should podcast. And she's like, I don't have a face for radio.
You can do that.

Speaker 1 That sounds like something you would do. We're going to have to build it.

Speaker 1 I'm not made for podcasts. I was like, have you seen my bone structure? That's such an insult to me.
I remember having to explain to her what podcast is.

Speaker 1 When I started this podcast, I'm like, oh, we have to shoot it now. Like, now.
Yeah. I just had somebody come up the other day and say, oh, I just watched your podcast.

Speaker 1 Which is like, it's kind of like a podcast. That's taken over.
And it's different. Your clips are everywhere right now.
And you got to have those those clips. You got to have those.

Speaker 1 That's why we're not allowed to have two long conversations. We've got to stop equipping.
Right, right. Let's let's go.
For 45 seconds.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to throw out a bunch of words.

Speaker 1 These are not my glasses, by the way. I forgot my glasses.

Speaker 1 She just stole it from a random person outside.

Speaker 1 But when you went back on Summerhouse after all that talk, you must have felt psyched that you knew each other so well. Like you had gone from,

Speaker 1 you know, you had had a season, right?

Speaker 1 And then you shut down because of COVID. Two seasons.
Two seasons. Two seasons.
Then you shut down. And then during that time, your friendship grew.

Speaker 1 So you came back in knowing, like, oh, I'm with my friend. We kind of always were like that.
Like, oh, I have a friend. Because we were both new at the same time.

Speaker 1 So we already had that bond like that first day.

Speaker 1 And Hannah and I truly are so different in so many ways, but our humor is the exact same.

Speaker 1 So from the day we met, it was like, this is my best friend.

Speaker 1 Look at me getting dark. But I keep going, I'm sorry to get dark, but I think you might understand this.

Speaker 1 In any kind of trauma you're going through, the only thing I've ever been able to control is laughter.

Speaker 1 So like in reality TV, there's multiple scenes where like I'm sobbing about something and then I'll try to crack a joke because it's the only thing that I can control and that's something that I think Giggly Squad is about is about taking your life less seriously in spite all of you can't control your relationships, your job, any of it.

Speaker 1 But we can choose to laugh instead of cry. Oh my gosh.
And I think it's the elevator.

Speaker 1 Like to me like that takes you from the basement it's like the fastest if you can find a way to go from crying to laughing yeah it's it's hard but it's a huge like it's it feels kind of like the fastest way to remember that life is a dream and that nothing matters if you can get there but it's and it's with people that you can do it with people like you can do it with people that you trust And it's kind of what we've been talking about in this podcast is it's so dark right now.

Speaker 1 Everything is really tough. And I just want to do for my own mental health and for others to do what I do in my personal life, which is to talk to my friends and love.
Yeah, and I have a good hang.

Speaker 1 And I have a good hang. Everyone needs that one person in their life where it's like you can call them and they make you feel better about anything.

Speaker 1 It's like a spouse or like, in my case, it's Hannah. Like, truly, if anything happens to me, like, online that I'm like deep in, I'm like, everyone hated my outfit.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, something like stupid. She's like, this is the worst thing it's ever.

Speaker 1 No, I'm like, I'll never financially recover from this.

Speaker 1 It was a sparkly boa.

Speaker 1 I'm like, they don't get it. I'm like, they don't get it.
No pants is actually really in.

Speaker 1 Like, I can call Hannah and say anything. And she really does like bring me back down to earth.
And like, I will then like laugh at something and then I'll be on to the next thing.

Speaker 1 So like I really feel like everyone needs that one person

Speaker 1 where you can just... We also were going through very unique things.
Yeah. Like something would happen with reality reality TV that you

Speaker 1 can't talk to your mom necessarily. I mean, you can, and my mom's like, why'd you do it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Paige would be like, yeah, I did that last week, and this is how I got through it. Yeah.
So we've just had unique experiences.

Speaker 1 But Giggly Squad has become us talking about just the mundane, I think, and girls have connected with it.

Speaker 1 I bet you get asked a question like Tina and I used to get asked this all the time, which is, what do you two fight about? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nothing. We've literally never, and we work together too.
Like, the podcast is obviously a business. So, like, will we have like business phone calls?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, kind of. It's not like we have like a set time where we're like, let's talk business.

Speaker 1 We've had like other people definitely try to get in the way of our friendship, which leads me to the Acon song. Nobody wanna see us together, but I don't matter.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 The fact that you've had to break out into song is. I can't believe I just did that in front of you.
That's so embarrassing. Also, that was definitely a copyright issue.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't know the song.

Speaker 1 I'm so sorry. I'll send it to you after.
It's going to change.

Speaker 1 I do know Acon. I know.
I know who they are.

Speaker 1 But there's this kind of level of, there have been moments where people have tried to kind of turn us against each other, which has like made us stronger in a way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only thing we've ever fought about is she has to stand on a certain side, and it's so diva that it's.

Speaker 1 I can't. Because we literally did the Vanity Fair Oscar party, and my dress had like a side.
And I was like, can I, I have to stand on this side, like my dress.

Speaker 1 And she was, and she looked at me in the eye and she goes, I'll literally die fast. fast

Speaker 1 that was the first time i ever stood up for myself

Speaker 1 and i said sorry she's okay she was a limited to model yeah she's got all the she has all the sides and all i wanted was to feel confident yeah on my day and one of my sides happens to be deformed and you're seeing it right now i do disagree yeah i disagree there's a little dysmorphia going on there

Speaker 1 but i know what you mean though a woman knows what what her side is. And I wasn't going to solve the dysmorphia in that 10 minutes.
I was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's so funny you brought that up because it means you still haven't moved forward from it because that was weeks ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's the thing about comedy is you have to depend, you have to decide how much you're going to care

Speaker 1 all the time. When it comes to performing, because I was a tennis player, tennis was really like, you're a winner or you're a fucking loser.
Like, you can't walk off the court.

Speaker 1 You can be like, I played well.

Speaker 1 It's an intense competition. But tennis, like, I really dealt with

Speaker 1 very result-oriented. So when I started doing comedy, I was like, oh, this is art.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I could be authentic and raw, and if people don't like it, I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's subjective. That's you're projecting onto me.
And I'm so lucky I'm getting paid to be goofy. Where tennis, I really felt like every day was Judgment Day.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So comedy, I've kind of retrained my brain to be like, you don't have to be mean to yourself like you were with tennis. So I I, cause I feel like I've lived a couple of lives before comedy.

Speaker 1 With comedy, I've been I've been really nice to myself. And I think

Speaker 1 I hope other people can do the same if they're being mean to themselves with like how they're doing in their careers I think that what you're saying is really important because so much of being funny is being relaxed

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 it's like less about content yeah I

Speaker 1 not to shit on comedians but I do it I don't like when comedians take it so seriously I'm like look if the audience laughs you did a great job. Well, I commit to myself like this.

Speaker 1 Let's be serious. Like, it's like when you're in a comic company.
subject. She's like, okay, get out of here.

Speaker 1 This is an important part of baby poll work.

Speaker 1 But, but, but, but. I'm mortified.

Speaker 1 But when you go backstage and all the men, it's usually men. Yeah.
Sometimes women, but it's like with their headphones on, like pacing, going over their set. And it's like, I saw your set.

Speaker 1 It's okay. It's not that great.
We're almost. It's okay.
It's like pre-gaming to Eminem. It's pretty tough to talk to stand-ups in general.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because we have the improv.

Speaker 1 Because they are just always performing at you, and they're also either having done a set or about to do a set, and they're just trying to figure out what went wrong.

Speaker 1 And so they're just staring at, like, right past you, doing their bit. And it's tough.
Every now and then, I practice my bits on Paige without her knowing, which is super annoying.

Speaker 1 That's how you stand up.

Speaker 1 She knows.

Speaker 1 I start, I get a microphone.

Speaker 1 Because my thing is, if Paige laughs, I'm like, you make me light you in five minutes. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 But I have become aware that like it's really annoying to constantly just be wanting to take laughter from people and there's there has to be this

Speaker 1 vulnerability.

Speaker 1 It's annoying. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it feels like you have to be aware that sometimes people feel like your audience rather than, you know, but do you, what is your relationship? relationship to being funny because you're very funny.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 My whole personality has been built out of spite because when I was younger, my brother is so funny. His timing is great.
He's so smart. He just like knows when something's going to hit.

Speaker 1 So my dad would always be laughing at my brother, and he's like five years older than me. And I started to get so frustrated.
I was just like, dad, I'm also funny.

Speaker 1 And my dad was like, well, you haven't made me laugh.

Speaker 1 You're beautiful. Yeah, like, you're beautiful.
You can't read. Stay in your lane.
And I, and so I would get so annoyed. He's older and smarter.
Older and and smarter.

Speaker 1 But my brother always loved comedy. So like I would always watch stand-ups.
I always knew who like famous comedians were.

Speaker 1 And so then just like over time, I think just hanging out with my brother and my dad, like I got certain timing. Yeah.
But I was never like outwardly funny.

Speaker 1 Like I don't think in high school anyone would have described me as like, oh, she was like so funny in class. It really wasn't until I met Hannah that I feel like I was more open about being funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like my friends would say, yeah, like she's funny sometimes.
Where now I'm like, if you don't think I'm funny, I hate you. But yes, like, then you don't get me.

Speaker 1 Then you don't get like my personality. It's funny how people can be mirrors to you.
Like, if you surround yourself with people that, I mean, your dad now is like, Paige, you're hilarious.

Speaker 1 How do we not know? But a lot of friends I'd be with, like, they don't want you to be funny or that's not how they see you. But I could never do stand-up.
You couldn't.

Speaker 1 I think she can. I think you could.

Speaker 1 I just have to say, I don't think women should say any more. I can, I could never do anything.
You're just gonna. Because I think

Speaker 1 don't you can do. I could do it.
I don't want to. No, we couldn't.
She doesn't want to stand.

Speaker 1 I don't want to stay. She doesn't want to stand for more than two minutes ever.
With no chair? Get a grip. That's her.
In this economy, I can't.

Speaker 1 You could Dave Chappelle and sit with a cigarette the whole time. I love that.

Speaker 1 I love that. You're right.
The jewel. The mango jewel.
Just get an IV while you do it and sit there and just get other things done.

Speaker 1 You get your nails done for three hours a week. You can't stand your hands.
Actually, that would be amazing if you got your nails done for wild.

Speaker 1 That is sick. You're going to have to fit it in.

Speaker 1 It does. It takes a while.
I really relate because Tina and I are on tour and I want to talk about your tour. And we have, I pushed her.
I was like, let's do stand-up.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Tina was like,

Speaker 1 we don't really. And I was like, but we do.
And also we can. And also, let's just...
keep trying it and try new material and use this section to try new stuff.

Speaker 1 Well, with us, with our tour, we do a lot of improv, but then whenever a joke really hits, we keep it.

Speaker 1 So it's basically like you doing improv, but then being able to save everything that works and doing it again.

Speaker 1 It's just such a different, it's a different form of comedy, but the hard part's done. You're funny.
I'm always so suspicious of when people start gatekeeping stuff as being really hard.

Speaker 1 I mean, with the exception of like science and

Speaker 1 like real hard stuff. Real hard stuff, like math, things that you have to do.
That was controversial. Like, are we expecting science on the spot?

Speaker 1 We believe in science. We believe in science.
And I said it for the first time today. Like, I would have never

Speaker 1 thought to go on a tour or even been, or said, like, yeah, I want to do this, if it wasn't for Hannah being like, Paige, you can go out on a stage and like be funny.

Speaker 1 What do you like and not like about being on tour?

Speaker 1 I always say like the beginning, like before we go out on stage when we're in the green room is my favorite part because that's when we're just like waiting to like go do it.

Speaker 1 Your mom's brought that up, really?

Speaker 1 That like Kim being on tour,

Speaker 1 she was saying the best part, I always tell people the best part is before you are on stage and it's just the two of you getting hair and makeup just like we're literally it's like we're waiting to like go to a party or something.

Speaker 1 Except every now and then Paige started this thing. She likes to show up in like her sweats.
I'm an athlete.

Speaker 1 I am an athlete. She doesn't look like she's practicing.
She's like, let's not get dressed up until right before.

Speaker 1 But I'm not organized. So I show up in my sweats and then I take out my backpack and I'm like, I left my left heel in the hotel.
This is really, really, really bad.

Speaker 1 And I forget clothes all the time where Paige is a personal.

Speaker 1 This describes tour. We were in Denver.
We had just started our tour.

Speaker 1 I know. We're about to go out on stage in like 15 minutes.
And I'm like, oh,

Speaker 1 I think I'm having a panic attack. My hands are numb.
I'm crying. I'm throwing up.
I'm like, yeah, no, I'm having a panic attack. Hannah's trying to like play spa music in the background.

Speaker 1 She's like, I found on YouTube spa music and I just put it at her face. She's like, hey, is this helping? I'm like, not at all.
I'm literally in the midst of crying. Tears are running down my face.

Speaker 1 I realize that Hannah has forgotten her shirt that she's wearing out on stage. So she's going to wear like this silk pajama shirt that like the venue had given us, like this merch.
I can't even speak.

Speaker 1 And the only words I can get out is, you can't wear that shirt on stage.

Speaker 1 And she looks over at me and she's like, you're having a panic attack and you're going to tell me what I'm going to wear. Luckily, I had like a t-shirt in my bag that was like extra, whatever.

Speaker 1 And I I was like, put this on. She put that on.
Her outfit was fine. And then I got out of my panic attack.

Speaker 1 But that's a great example of like you're, she got you stuck. After a lot of beta blockers in Xanax.
And let's also, she FaceTimes her mom because she's like, Henna, this isn't working.

Speaker 1 I'm FaceTiming Kim. So I'm just listening, supporting.
And all I hear is, Paige, stop. Paige, stop it.

Speaker 1 You're fine. Paige, you're fine.
She hangs up. We start dying laughing.
We were like, your mom just told you this. Yeah, she's like panic attacks aren't real.
And that's two generations of women.

Speaker 1 She's like, back in my day, we sucked it up. Okay.
Well, that is true. We never even had the word anxiety.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did SNL.

Speaker 1 I had a high school boyfriend who used to get stomach aches, and we were like, huh, I wonder why.

Speaker 1 And he would just be up all night. And then you realize it was because of you.

Speaker 1 The second he broke off, he's like, my stomach feels great.

Speaker 1 He's like, he totally went away. And I was like, okay.
I wonder what it was.

Speaker 1 And he used to be up all night, worried about the future. Yeah.
Get stomachaches. And everyone was just like, huh, shoot.
I guess. Drinking all the way up.
I hope you fix that.

Speaker 1 There was no discussion. You bring up relaxation a lot in this episode.
I was wondering, because you've dealt with some of the most high-pressure live performances in entertainment, period.

Speaker 1 Do you have any advice for us when you feel like your career is hanging by a thread?

Speaker 1 Do you ever take a beta blocker? Give something free.

Speaker 1 I've never taken a beta blocker, and a lot of people have told me about those. I would be worried it would slow me down.

Speaker 1 yeah okay so here's the thing why I like it it's not for anxiety it's for blood pressure

Speaker 1 so like it doesn't do anything to your brain pressure no I'm sure

Speaker 1 because I am very against Xanax I don't like the way Xanax makes me feel you have to really really be careful yeah I didn't like that where when I took a beta blocker before I went out on stage it just like took away my hands sweating so that's why I like it it's good with physical reactions.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, when you're so overprepared for a performance, but you know your body's gonna turn on you right beforehand and you're going to get the shakes and your lips quivering.

Speaker 1 Beta Blocker for me, I've taken, it just calms your heart rate. So I feel more normal, but not your brain.
Yeah, but it's not because it depends on the person. I took it.
Did I take it?

Speaker 1 I didn't take it for Fallon. I took it for my Netflix special.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because it was a special, by the way.
Thank you. I was having a lot of...
like panic

Speaker 1 because I felt like it was a make-or-break career moment for me and I blew it out of proportion in my head. But I've never experienced that level of performance before And stand-ups never recorded.

Speaker 1 So I just went to a dark place in my head. I'm like, what if I blank? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like my anxiety tends to come after I do something.

Speaker 1 I get a little kind of zony before. And then after, I get very fluttery and nervous.
And it's a little bit like, was that good? Did I do that? Like, I kind of check out.

Speaker 1 I disassociate, which our gen is really good at. It's really healthy.
Yeah. You know, like, just float above your body

Speaker 1 and get out of your body. And then when I'm like sucked back into my body, that's when I get shaky after something

Speaker 1 more than before something. It's almost like I get the after adrenaline comes down.
Adrenaline.

Speaker 1 Did I say that right? Did I just say

Speaker 1 everyone? Was it good?

Speaker 1 Yeah, did I even do it? Like, did it even happen?

Speaker 1 So we're dark, really.

Speaker 1 What is my name?

Speaker 1 What planet are we on?

Speaker 1 Just don't be there. I don't even remember the names of the music.
I think you're trying to be too present. Like, you're trying to be too in the moment.
Be out of the moment. Be out of the room.

Speaker 1 I do think because our generation is so aware of mental health, we're always trying to be like, okay, this is anxiety and this is PTSD and this is OCD. And a lot of it is true.

Speaker 1 But then there's a moment where it's like, and now let's, how do we cope? Yeah. To not let it beat us and not let it suppress like who we want to be.

Speaker 1 Well, I think, and I'm sure like from your athlete days, like there is a thing about your brain, and you know, everyone has different capacities for this.

Speaker 1 So I realize that, but there is something about your brain where you, if you start to tell your brain something, you can trick your brain for a short amount of time to get the thing done.

Speaker 1 And yes, if you start labeling the different, like anxiety, OCD, this is this, this is this, it's happening again, you're starting to tell your brain, like

Speaker 1 we're doing it, we're doing it again, we're here, we're doing it again.

Speaker 1 There is a little trick sometimes, it works for me, where being excited and being anxious are the same physical symptoms, physical feelings.

Speaker 1 So, if you say, Look at how excited I am rather than how anxious I am, that it doesn't, it doesn't help when you're like at the dentist or something.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm so excited to be at the dentist.

Speaker 1 They say a little bit of anxiety, especially in sports, is good, and it helps you actually perform at a more focused level. So, a little anxiety is important.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're ever not nervous before a gig, I get a little nervous. I'm like, someone's about to be loosey goose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, that actually helped me when we were on tour, like, after my first panic attack, and then I would like take a beta blocker before.

Speaker 1 Like, I'd be like shoot I hope it doesn't happen again Hannah would always say to me like it's good to be a little nervous you care about what you're doing and that truly would like calm me down yes she'd also push me out on stage I would literally attack launch her like bunt kick her onto the stage like your adrenaline will kick in we hope so here you go go ahead honey you got it and also doesn't it help you because taking care of somebody is a great distraction oh i was obsessed i wasn't the problem for like the first time ever so but i was like forgetting my shirt because i was so obsessed with like is paige okay well you might have a little adhd because you said you forget your shoes yeah i wish you didn't say that because i could talk about this forever but it's true all she says to me she's like well i suffer from adhd and i'm like who says that you've never seen a doctor i wouldn't say suffer i would say i thriving you live with it

Speaker 1 i'm like you've never seen a doctor you've only got been given tick tocks about this and so i really need you to not to stop bringing it up you're right everyone on tick tock tells me that i have it or that they have it or we all have it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It is. I mean, but that is how I diagnose most things.
Yeah. I'm like, no, you just wanted to sleep an extra hour.
You don't have ADHD. You literally just pressed snooze.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I told my other friend, I was like, I think I have ADHD. And she was like, yeah, everyone knows that about you.
And I was like, no one told me this whole time.

Speaker 1 You know, Kim from Paper Kite, she had a really, one of our producers, she had a really great thing where she said, you can tell you have ADHD if someone says, we have to leave in five minutes or we're going to miss the flight.

Speaker 1 And someone says, all right, let me just take a shower.

Speaker 1 That's her.

Speaker 1 That's the only time I start cleaning. I'm like, this is because we have to leave in five minutes.
It's like, great, let me take a shower. And it's like, what? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is, that's a good indication that maybe time is more of a concept. So true.

Speaker 1 You always do. I also will have to go to the bathroom when we have to leave.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I also will leave the shower just shaving one leg and find out like two days later. But these are all things that make me beautiful.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Absolutely special and beautiful. And then what, and then is there anything that you have, have, Paige, like when I make a mistake? Yeah.
I feel like for me,

Speaker 1 I think maybe this is because of reality TV. I'm very quick to want to like defend myself of like, oh, no, I didn't make a mistake.
You're just not seeing it from my perspective.

Speaker 1 And like what I meant to do was this or what I meant to say was this. And I feel like in my 30s, I've...
not mastered at all, but I've worked harder to be like, and not everyone is going to like me.

Speaker 1 And I don't need everyone to like me. I don't like everyone.
I thought you could say, I don't like me. Yeah, well, that too.
I'm like, imagine hating on me and I'm at home hating on me.

Speaker 1 So I feel like I've had to like overcome that of like, not everyone is going to like you and not everyone is going to think you're funny and not everyone's going to love your outfits.

Speaker 1 And that's okay because you think you're funny and you like what you're wearing. And so that's been like a struggle.

Speaker 1 I think reality TV like brought that up because really like the human brain, I'm not supposed to see 200 people commenting how much they hate me. Like, I'm not a scene that has no colour.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not supposed, as a human, I'm not supposed to be able to read that. No.

Speaker 1 And there's like this new thing on TikTok where it's like, we were never meant to see ourselves. Like, mirrors were like invented.
Like, we were never supposed to see this.

Speaker 1 And I feel like that with being so public and like social media, we really weren't supposed to see how people feel about us. And so, I think that's that's.

Speaker 1 And you heard that saying, what other people think of you is none of your your business.

Speaker 1 I was about to say our new thing is saying that's none of my business.

Speaker 1 It's a fantastic way. And I mean, but but when you're on a show, like you're still on Summerhouse, that's hard to talk about

Speaker 1 because you have to talk about people in real time. You have to hear.
And then for a year after, like, you don't get to move on until a year after.

Speaker 1 But it's hard not to hear personally because people are like talking about who you are as a person. Yeah, and I'm like, no, no, no, let me explain that one moment.

Speaker 1 And it's like, no, no, I don't need to explain that one moment. No one cares.
Yeah, but being misunderstood is painful. It's painful.
But I really feel like people who want to misunderstand you will.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And people who want to understand you will.
And that's like how you get a little peace with it. Do you ever talk about,

Speaker 1 do you ever clarify things about the show on your podcast? Never.

Speaker 1 I've never said what actually happened in my last podcast. We've never spoken about Summerhouse.
We've never...

Speaker 1 We don't honestly, because when we started, we were like one of the first podcasts to come out of Bravo.

Speaker 1 I think maybe there was like one or two others, and they were really adamant of like, this is not a Bravo podcast. Do not speak about Bravo.
And we were like, totally fine with us.

Speaker 1 Like, we weren't going to anyway. We wanted it to be more pop culture.
And so now people are kind of surprised if they find us from Bravo because they're like, they never talk about Bravo.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, we weren't allowed to in the beginning. And now like, yeah, it doesn't really go with who we are and like what we talk about.

Speaker 1 So it's actually better that way. Yeah.
I mean, it definitely does. You're practicing what you're saying, which is just kind of letting go of things that you can't have control over.

Speaker 1 Because then it would be too

Speaker 1 in the we, it's too much. Also, it's funny you brought up mistakes because I feel like

Speaker 1 I don't know, I'm going to speak for you, but like I really have just failed upwards.

Speaker 1 Does that make sense? Like, I've. You've been fired so many times.
I love it every time. And I love.

Speaker 1 And I'm sorry to say this, but we're going to ask you to.

Speaker 1 We need to ask you to leave right now. I manifested it accidentally.

Speaker 1 Not to do like a Jordan quote, but like they say like of all the shots. Why? Timmy is a Jordan.
Yeah, Timmy wants to be like Jordan. Timmy Chalamay, you're like Jordan.
Yeah. Timmy.
Charlotte Moray.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he... I need to stop.
So I've ADHD. So he

Speaker 1 missed a ton of the

Speaker 1 shots to win the game. But people remember those.
They remember the ones you made. Well, you know what? You can't.
You know what?

Speaker 1 Don't worry about doing a Jordan quote. I'm pretty sure that was Wayne Director.

Speaker 1 It was Wayne Director. As I was saying it,

Speaker 1 someone looked me in the eye and went, You miss 100% of the shots you don't take was Wayne Gretzky, and not Jordan. But I bet Jordan did say something about it.

Speaker 1 But I'm sure they're friends and they like each other, so it's all fine.

Speaker 1 I'm never going to say a quote again.

Speaker 1 With that said. And Obama actually said,

Speaker 1 Graham your hockey sticks, kids.

Speaker 1 Marilyn Monroe, you miss 100 shots. That's what Armand Monroe used to say.

Speaker 1 Audrey Hepard.

Speaker 1 Audrey Hepburn said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't get. Wait, can we also tell them we misquoted Amy Poehler in our book?

Speaker 1 We also didn't ask permission. Did a full quote with Amy Poehler, said it wrong.

Speaker 1 That's actually so funny because my brother literally saw the back and was like, you didn't ask my permission. And I was like, what are you going to sue me?

Speaker 1 Oh, because your brother has a quote in the back of it. Yeah, but I like wrote it for him.
We got some fun quotes in the back of our book.

Speaker 1 My sister isn't that funny. That's his quote.
I wrote that.

Speaker 1 I wrote it back in here. Did you not think it?

Speaker 1 Did you not think it? Okay, you talk about pop culture on your podcast. Yeah.
Because of that, I want to just throw things out to you. Yeah.
Speed round. Yes.
Tell me your thoughts and opinions. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's no wrong answers. Okay.
Okay. Like the last thing I did.

Speaker 1 She goes, you got that wrong, but hopefully do better this time.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Veneers.

Speaker 1 I don't think they ever look good. Never?

Speaker 1 I think maybe there's like two people in Hollywood where I'm like, wait, they have really good veneers. But like a normal person who can't afford it.

Speaker 1 I do have a person. Do you? Oh, they look great.
Well,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't know. But because you obviously have access to a great doctor.
The normies out here shouldn't get that. Too big, too white.
Too big. Did you get them?

Speaker 1 Well, I guess you're considered veneers. I had a chip tooth.
Okay. And when I went to the store.
That's the story you're going

Speaker 1 I was in a bar fight.

Speaker 1 I broke my nose in a car accident.

Speaker 1 And I have a sign station. I had a tear and I had a senior station on it.
See, I'm a sneaker. No, I had a chip tooth when I got on SNL, and I thought, no big deal, whatever.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Like, who cares? And then I saw myself on camera and I gasped.
I was like,

Speaker 1 oh, no. Like, I look.
And so I got my teeth fixed. I got veneers when I was on SNL.

Speaker 1 You would never know. Just two, but I have.
If you didn't get into Hollywood, do you think you would have gotten veneers?

Speaker 1 Wow, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 Maybe not. I don't think so.
I think, like, you know, where I came from in Massachusetts, and, like, I don't know if I, I think I would just wouldn't mind my chip.

Speaker 1 But seeing yourself on camera is a different thing. You know how, like, people hate hearing their own voice, like, even in a voicemail? I'm like, imagine watching yourself on TV.

Speaker 1 You're like, that's what I present to the world. It's in like,

Speaker 1 it's a real mind thought. Okay, so you got to be careful with veneers.
Yeah. I get nervous when people shave it down and they have little like nubs.
Yeah. That makes me nervous.

Speaker 1 I think that that doesn't happen as much anymore. I think they've really taken it back.
They don't go to the side. We don't know the signs.
We don't know anything about veneers. We don't listen to it.

Speaker 1 But we have

Speaker 1 to do something about it, but we hate them. And I also have to say, both of you, if I may, you both have great teeth.
I thought you were going to say you both need them. So that is crazy.

Speaker 1 I have a doctor. And let me talk to somebody who does.

Speaker 1 Dr. Keene, everybody knows.
Shut up.

Speaker 1 You both have great teeth. So talking about veneers with great teeth isn't really fair.
Yeah. True.
Okay. True.
Because some of us don't have great teeth.

Speaker 1 Gel nails. Yes.
Yes. Okay.
Yes. You love them.
We love them. You're taking off of them.
That's the thing. You just let them grow up.
I was just going to say, we never take them off.

Speaker 1 We never take it off. We just rego.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about running?

Speaker 1 From what? What problems are you running from? Yeah, from. Who are you running from?

Speaker 1 We can do Pilates. That's a workout laying down with BDSM equipment.
Actually, I'm... We're not running.
The only thing we run is to get away from a man.

Speaker 1 Okay, how do you feel about people who love dogs?

Speaker 1 Okay, you did that. You did.
No, that was not on purpose. You did it on purpose.
No, why? Do I know something? Because for cat people and people are, it's very controversial. Oh, okay.
Right.

Speaker 1 You're a huge cat. Okay, people who love dogs.
I love dogs. Yeah.
I foster senior pets all the time. Get that on.

Speaker 1 Click that.

Speaker 1 People who love dogs, I love. People who say they hate cats,

Speaker 1 I don't like.

Speaker 1 I've never had a cat. It's always the dog people.
They're like, I love dogs. But then Scruffy scratched me when I was four.
I hate cats. I hate cats.
And it's like, cats just want your consent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. People think it's okay to say they hate cats.
That's not nice. It's horrible.
I love cats PR though. Like, I love that they're hated publicly because

Speaker 1 that's their vibe. If they like that.
If you hate cats, you hate women.

Speaker 1 And now we've said it.

Speaker 1 didn't I wasn't gonna say it I said it and now we've gone there on the path

Speaker 1 when you're talking about traveling how early do you like to get to the airplane to the airport for flight okay that's another reason why I think we're pretty compatible we have the same flight time we're very big on boarding time we like to know the boarding time and we like to be there an hour before it boards I also am very lucky where at where I live in New York I'm 20 minutes from LaGuardia yeah so I kind of roll out of bed that's great in the world's best airport and I'm besties with the clear people.

Speaker 1 I get high fives from them. They're like, no, no, no, no, good luck this weekend.
And I'm paid to bring you in. You don't think they care.
You don't think they care?

Speaker 1 Those clear people are passionate about it. They are good names.

Speaker 1 They do want to. Look at my soul.

Speaker 1 It says your name. That's how they know it.
They didn't remember it.

Speaker 1 They get paid for every person that goes through the film. They go to Minneapolis.
Like, oh, you know everything about me.

Speaker 1 They're like, I'm looking at your flight information, ma'am.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we're the same.

Speaker 1 We keep each other. Yeah, we're pretty similar travelers.
Oh, that's really important. It's really important.
It's really important. Okay, what about avocado toast?

Speaker 1 I think avocado ruins a lot of really good things. Really? This is Paige's hot take.
Paige, people are going to be so mad. I know.

Speaker 1 I think that I don't know what year we were like, let's throw avocado on every sandwich, but I wish I paid attention more and stopped it. Because I don't need avocado on my turkey sandwich.

Speaker 1 It was gorgeous

Speaker 1 years prior. It's been a turkey sandwich forever.
I don't need it now to be surprised. You don't have a mature palate.
Just say it. Do you have like a baby palate? Like a little kid palate?

Speaker 1 No, don't listen to her.

Speaker 1 I need weight.

Speaker 1 I will try

Speaker 1 her.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 what do you do? I will try. I feel like I eat way more things than you.
Like try way more things. Not true.
You eat

Speaker 1 Mexican food, and that's it. I do get hyper-fixated on a a meal.
And if I like it, I'll eat it for a couple weeks. A couple of weeks.
And then I'll change. You've been having changes.

Speaker 1 I like ovats for seven years. Look, I don't recommend it before a show.
That's all I'm gonna say. What is your favorite kind of sandwich?

Speaker 1 If you could have a perfect sandwich. Bacon, egg, and cheese.
I'm so New York. On what?

Speaker 1 Ooh, good question.

Speaker 1 Anything, but like everything bagel, roll, just bacon, egg, and cheese. Just bacon egg and cheese.

Speaker 1 Perfect sandwich would be like prosciutto, m mozzarella cheese, a little olive oil and vinegar on like a hard, like good baguette.

Speaker 1 Spoken like a person has their real teeth.

Speaker 1 I can bite and you're not bite teeth. Well, you have to be careful.
One ears.

Speaker 1 You have to go a little slower. Like you don't want to get, you don't want to come up on an apple too fast.

Speaker 1 Got it. Because they do.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 can pop up. Yeah, they can pop up anywhere.
Okay, and the last one is women who ask men to marry them. Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life.

Speaker 1 I'm not just willy-nilly waiting for a guy to spring it on me. I'm sitting down and having a serious discussion if you want to spend the rest of your life with me.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And the bigger thing of like, what do we expect,

Speaker 1 like expecting to be chosen and waiting to be chosen rather than choosing.

Speaker 1 It's complicated. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 also,

Speaker 1 I do think there's a thing sometimes where, I mean, and you know, straight cis marriage is a whole other conversation. Like, who cares? But um, boring.
No, it's very boring. It is.
It's not cool.

Speaker 1 It's choogy. Getting married is choogie now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are we still saying choogie? No, that was choogie.

Speaker 1 And funny enough, we also talk on the pod. Like, obviously, Hannah's married.
And so, like. We don't like to talk about it, though.
It's very off-brand. So off-brand for our

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 1 Why are you just exposing my husband? I'm like, what? You have a husband? We say boyfriend.

Speaker 1 But like, we talk about how like people expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day. And then, like, you'll never be that skinny or pretty ever again.

Speaker 1 Like, this is your one day. Or, like, it's the best day of your life.
And I remember Hannah's wedding. She was like, this is a great day, but, like, I've had better.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, like, I've had a day, like, when she filmed her Netflix special, she was like, this is truly the best. I was high on beta blockers, but it was an amazing day.

Speaker 1 And I think we're in a generation where it is like a little bit, it's shifting a little bit, where it's like, okay, your wedding day and your marriage isn't the best thing you're ever going to do your whole life.

Speaker 1 And that's really put on women. Yes.
Where it's like, this is the best you're ever going to look. This is the best weekend you're ever going to have.
Everyone's here for you.

Speaker 1 This is the last time that's ever going to happen.

Speaker 1 So, like, the whole proposal thing and like a girl doing it to a guy,

Speaker 1 there's a re he hasn't said that he likes you, then. That's why you're doing it, I feel like.
Well, I do feel like

Speaker 1 what you two speak about a lot, and I feel like is, that's kind of what I mean about the freedom that comes from the women that are coming up behind me, is that

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 discussion about how gaslit we are all the time. Yeah, that's it.
The discussion in real time about how we get these crazy mixed messages all the time.

Speaker 1 And it's like, push and pull back and be this way, but say what you want. It's like, I mean, being a female female comedian is a fuck you to the system.

Speaker 1 They don't want you to call people out, say things that are out of line, make people uncomfortable. That's what we do as comics, make you think, take up space.

Speaker 1 That's why I love being a female comedian. And yeah, we get pushback a lot, but that's like what our choice is.
This is the life I want to live.

Speaker 1 And I also think it's so cool you talk to our moms before because generationally

Speaker 1 they only had so many options. I joke that icks are popular now because like back then you barely had a credit card.
You couldn't have a date with your husband.

Speaker 1 You literally couldn't divorce your husband. It was illegal.
Yeah, he starts singing happy birthday at a restaurant. You're like, la, la, la, la, la.

Speaker 1 Nowadays, if a guy gets like a little baby spoon, like let me do my stand-up. A little baby spoon eating an ice cream, you're like, yeah, divorce? I'm taking all the money that I made.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, get out of my house. And I'm taking the money that we didn't, we, that we never share.

Speaker 1 Okay, speaking of laugh, before you leave, I'm asking people what they're laughing at these days. What do you like to look at, read,

Speaker 1 go see? I mean, I know you make each other laugh, Hannah. Hannah's text messages.
When Hannah really goes off, here's the thing. Can you share a text message? This is when I know.
No, she's smart.

Speaker 1 She does voice notes.

Speaker 1 This is when I know.

Speaker 1 I thought that was a boomer thing. Voice notes are remote.
Oh, we love a voice note.

Speaker 1 But they disappear, and then you can never know. No, we love that.

Speaker 1 This is when I know.

Speaker 1 In jail. Yeah.
This is when I know Hannah's husband isn't in the city. Hannah's voice noting me like crazy.

Speaker 1 She's like, and then I figured this out, and then I saw this, and oh my god, I haven't brought this up to you.

Speaker 1 My mom will be like, you've been voice noting Paige for two hours. Pick up the phone.
Yeah. But that's invasive.
I don't like the phone. I don't like to talk on the phone.
No.

Speaker 1 And I don't like when people FaceTime me out of the blue. Yeah, that's aggressive.
But I think you guys don't mind it as much. We don't, but we, but we're respectful of each other.

Speaker 1 We're respectful, but once, if one of us does FaceTime each other out of the blue, it is the first thing we say when we answer the phone, like, oh, oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 What's going on? Yeah, someone must be dead.

Speaker 1 That's why there's not more female pilots because we don't like a dispatcher in our ear.

Speaker 1 We don't want to hear it. Text me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know where I'm going.

Speaker 1 Thanks, I know we're going. It's not man spleening how to land the plane.
But we also started doing this thing because, like, we stay in hotels all the time with each other.

Speaker 1 That, like, any time one of us has to go to the other one's room, we think of like a line we're gonna say when we open the door. Like, we have to have a bit going into it.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 1 I was like, I was wearing a tie. I think it was before we've met you and we opened the door, and I was like, I'm selling you insurance.
And she was like, I just puked. Or she said something.

Speaker 1 No, I was like, I think I'm pregnant.

Speaker 1 This is the thing. Life is sad.
So if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are you here for? 100%. And what, so what do you, okay? So

Speaker 1 Paige gets Hannah's text to make her laugh. What do you, what makes you laugh? Paige doesn't really make me laugh that much.

Speaker 1 I imagine this is where she finds out. I actually don't really enjoy the pod with her.

Speaker 1 No, Paige 100% makes me laugh. Okay, you guys make each other laugh.
Yeah, what angles. Okay, like what TV are we watching? Yes, like what do you do at night? Or like a like.

Speaker 1 I just watched Detroiters. I thought it was the funniest thing ever.
So funny. Sam Richardson.
I love comics who are really different from me.

Speaker 1 It's more I get more like it's more admirable because I'm like, I could never do that. So then I think it's really funny.
I love watching stand-ups. Who did I? I just watched two stand-ups this week.

Speaker 1 I watched Chelsea Handler's. I watched Burt Kreischner's.

Speaker 1 Honestly, anything on TikTok, like TikTok is funny.

Speaker 1 Really funny.

Speaker 1 TikTok is the only social media app where when I log on to it, I never click my own profile and I never click my notifications. You're not re-watching your videos to be like, was that funny? No.

Speaker 1 I'm never re-watching. We're on Instagram.
Me neither. I'm obsessed with myself.

Speaker 1 I'm like, my story is

Speaker 1 so aesthetic today. My grid has never looked better.

Speaker 1 I'm commenting on everyone. Where TikTok, I really go to it to just laugh.
Same.

Speaker 1 I said this many times, but especially in the pandemic, rapping back around in the pandemic. Like that really saved me because it was lots of good comedy on YouTube.

Speaker 1 You've been on TikTok. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been on TikTok.

Speaker 1 Okay, I see you commenting gassing up the girls. Yeah, you're doing great.
Also, it was that hilarious moment where it was like everyone was leaving.

Speaker 1 You know, before we leave, I'm going to just tell a couple people that I think they're girls. They're so cute.
But there's so many funny people. No, there's so many funny people.
So many funny people.

Speaker 1 I also, as a creativity, I'm like, how did you even think of that? That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 Women are particularly so funny because I say that for female stand-ups, it's hard to be in the clubs at night, but that TikTok is like a safe, open mic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where girls can just like put them in the middle of the game.

Speaker 1 I think there's more funny women on TikTok than there are men because I do feel like women are competitive with each other, but there is a sense of like we feel safe with each other.

Speaker 1 So it's like I know that my TikTok is majority girls. Yeah.
So like when I put something out, I'm like, oh, it's the girls will think this is funny. So I think that's like where guys,

Speaker 1 I don't know, they don't have that relationship with other guys. Do you like making TikToks? Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, it's funny. I love it.
And I feel like

Speaker 1 I just was on it for so long and really liked it that I feel like there's a way. I mean, my biggest fear was to come on as some like old lady being like,

Speaker 1 the thing that drives me nuts are like people that are like, I guess I should be doing this today. And you're like,

Speaker 1 beat it. Yeah.
It is actually like

Speaker 1 a culture of people that work really hard. It's a lot of creators.
And it's all just comedy in a different form. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And having your stamp of approval legitimizes it.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know about that, but I love it. I do love it.
And it is like, it is choogy and it is cringy.

Speaker 1 Like, if I get it wrong, but whatever. Who cares? Like, Amy, you've never made a mistake in your life.
Also, I can't wait to see you and Tina doing some TikToks on tour, continuing.

Speaker 1 Well, she doesn't love to do them. Really? No, so I always have to kind of convince her a little bit.
I feel like I'm the Tina.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to ask. Yeah.
You think so? I think so, because there's always a Tic Tac that handles like, this is going to be so funny. And I'm like, oh,

Speaker 1 get away from me. Yeah, and whoever is the quieter one, right? Yeah.
Because, yeah. Yeah.
I also just have to say shout out to animals.

Speaker 1 Animals are the most effortlessly funny. Like, I'll never be funnier than like a baby goat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been trying to tell you that.

Speaker 1 You may look like one, but you're not like.

Speaker 1 I'm not following a baby goat. I'm not following them.

Speaker 1 They're effortless. They don't care.
They're everything we want to be. When we were on the Vanity Fair red carpet, we were the first to get our picture taken because we were literally there first.

Speaker 1 And so, like, me and Hannah are standing next to each other, and we just notice all the cameras go immediately off of us. We're already having imposter sounds.

Speaker 1 And we're like, shoot, someone really famous must have walked in. They literally don't give a shit about us.

Speaker 1 It was a dog.

Speaker 1 It was a dog. It was a dog.
I go, I've waited my whole life for this moment, and I'm losing to a dog. Was it a famous dog? We don't know.
Was it? We stopped asking questions. We stopped the questions.

Speaker 1 And then I saw the dog and I was like, I get it. It's a beautiful dog.
It was a lab.

Speaker 1 Grew up in a nice way. You were like, that tail blowout is better than that.

Speaker 1 I'm like, how did the lab get a Dyson era?

Speaker 1 And then it stood on the right side and it looked gorgeous. It took my job off.
It took your job.

Speaker 1 Thank you guys so much for doing this. This was so, so fun.
Thank you for hanging with us, Amy. We love you.
You know, I love you back.

Speaker 1 And I just, I can't wait for all the big things ahead for both of you in all different areas of the business that you work with. And we feel the same about you.

Speaker 1 It sounds weird, but we feel like, are you just getting started?

Speaker 1 Like, that would be such a great fake title for this podcast. Like, just getting started.

Speaker 1 Just getting started? Question mark?

Speaker 1 Amy Bowler, just getting started?

Speaker 1 Wait, why?

Speaker 1 Your face has to be like that for some.

Speaker 1 And then I'm like scales of justice and I'm holding like

Speaker 1 a baby bottle and like a and like a tiny little grapestone and I'm like

Speaker 1 I'm hooked up to an IV

Speaker 1 one of those sand clogs that just slowly go through

Speaker 1 time.

Speaker 1 There's a guy. I'm going like because I'm like in a I'm in a I'm in a baby doll dress

Speaker 1 And I'm going just getting started and behind me is on the Grim Reaper just waiting for me and Botox getting injected

Speaker 1 overalls I'm like just getting started

Speaker 1 All right, we renamed the podcast We have fun here all right, thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1 That was an awesome, super fun episode of Good Hang. I loved having the ladies here.
It was a blast. And we talked a lot about a lot of things.

Speaker 1 And I love stand-up comedy, despite maybe some of the things I said in the podcast no, but I have great respect for it. And it made me think about the people that I'm watching.
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Speaker 1 She's a touring comedian right now and really specific, funny voice, just great with crowds, improvises all the time, deeply interesting, funny woman who,

Speaker 1 yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to because I think she's great. So

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Speaker 1 You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisberman, and me, Amy Poehler.
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