Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

This is an exciting one.

I'm starting this episode in Los Angeles, and then I'm getting on an airplane, and I'm flying to New York, where I go to that studio and talk to Abby Jacobson and Alana Glazer, the stars of Broad City, the

just the sweetest, most wonderful, talented women who in many ways helped my company, Paper Kite,

grow and expand into what it is today.

And I cannot wait to talk to them.

We're going to talk about Broad City, the show, of course, and getting that made and what it was like to do it together.

We're going to talk about female friendships.

We're going to talk about, you know, life as a millennial and how it's changed and what is nostalgia.

And hopefully, we're going to get to all of those things.

But I always like to start these episodes with people who know our guests, who have

good feelings and thoughts about our guests and want to give me questions to ask the guests.

And I thought, no better people to ask than the women who run Paperkite Productions, the co-heads, the co-presidents of Paperkite, Kate Arend and Kim Lessing, who work with me every day and who are going to join me in this studio to talk about Abby and Alana.

So ladies, welcome.

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Jade Aaron and Kim Lessing sharing a laptop today.

That's how we work.

We just have the laptops.

Let's all work on our laptop.

Hold on, Amy, we have to run your company one second.

And send.

Send.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm so excited to interview you guys because we are here in the studio and next door to Paper Kite offices, which you co-run.

And we're talking to Abby and Alana about Broad City.

And I just felt like it was such a great combo because

in many ways, you represent millennial and zillennial

or Joe Y.

Zillennial.

So Gen Y?

Gen Z.

I'm so cusp.

You're cuspy.

It's not what Gen Z.

Not what the Z is.

Anyway, represent like what you two represent teamwork in many ways, and I want to talk about that.

But also, you know what, how important that show was to Paperkite and its growth.

So before we start, tell everybody what you do here at the company.

What's your job?

So Kim and I, as Amy said, we're the co-presidents of Paperkite Productions.

And we are in charge of the many incredible shows and movies that Paperkite makes.

Everything from Broad City to Russian Doll, Difficult People, Harlem.

Yeah, we're producers.

We don't produce as a team.

We actually produce separately.

And we really take on projects based on our passion for them, our availability.

Like we really,

we really are.

We like to describe ourselves as the engines of projects, the connectors of projects.

And

we really love, we really love every second of doing it.

And we've both, we've been here working with Amy for 10 plus years.

And we will never leave.

That's right.

she'll have to drag us out of here we have the keys well you do really have all the secrets yeah and and they're bad

but but like i was just trying to do the math of the timing oh we both started on broad city yeah so tell me how you started on that show and like what your memories of the early broad city days well i actually started on the comedy central side right so i was like thrilled to get this job at comedy central because they were making broad city and then i ended up leaving comedy Central to come work with you.

And I got to work even closer to the ladies on Broad City.

And it was like, I knew I was in the right place because I felt like I was making something that actually genuinely represented my life and genuinely represented the types of friendships I was having.

So when I first interviewed with Amy, I had just watched season one of Broad City and I remember being like, holy shit, I've never seen.

queens like this on TV before.

Like no one's ever existed like this on television, my age, doing the kind of stuff my friends and I do, speaking the way that we speak.

And my first day of paperkite, Amy and I did notes on a season two episode.

And I was like, is this real life?

Like, what is happening?

And that was your first day?

Yeah.

Or maybe my second.

But yeah.

I got to like send my boss at the time my notes on the cut, one of the first cuts of, I think I started on season three, actually.

And she used some of them.

And I was like, I've made it in entertainment.

I was like, I'm in.

I was so happy.

But we used to do a lot of like, are you Abby?

Are you in a lot?

Are you

Yeah, I want to talk about it because what was so cool about what is so cool about the

that show is it creates these versions of like friends and you know much like you know back in the day like Laverne and Shirley or even the Golden Girls or Sex in the City like when you start being like are you an Abby or an Alana what it I think underneath that is it proves like the writing is good that you've identified what a a what version of you.

It was such a specific friendship that it was completely and utterly universal.

Like, you just that it everyone was either an Abby or an Alana.

So, what are you, Kim?

I'm obviously Alana because I'm like head over heels in love with Kate and always have been, and always try to touch her butt.

It started with me being like, Can I

and then she's like, You're

teacher.

I mean, I would never do that at work.

That's what we do.

That's not okay, but like when we left the office, but when we left the office, it was like on the way to the kinghouse.

Yeah,

in the parking lot.

So, Kate, you are an actor.

I mean, she's also Deadhead.

Yeah,

yeah, and we both love Oprah.

So, that kind of stuff.

And you guys have that crazy Oprah connection where you both like her.

So, for people who don't know

about what we do, right?

So, we're a film and production company.

We do all different kinds of projects, animated,

unscripted.

We do

half hours.

We do hour-long dramas.

But, Broad City, we use it a lot as an example when we're talking to creators about,

you know, young creators who have an idea and want to transfer it.

And could you speak a little bit to how we use that as an example?

We always say like Broad City is our North Star.

And it is the North Star.

I think if you were a young female creator in comedy in the last 10 years, that's it.

Like they did the thing that everybody wished they could do that men had been doing for a long time.

There was truly, like we said before, no one liked them.

So we always refer to them as kind of,

they're enmeshed in our ethos as a company.

Yeah, and they have a lot of elements of things that we really resonate with, like scrappy underdogs, women who love each other, people that are like, with, have like messy edges, and also two characters that really want something.

Like what I always related to about Abby and Alana is even though they were like silly and messy, they always really went after the things they wanted.

Like they went after it with such passion.

Yeah, and they took such good care of each other, which is such friendship is so important to us.

We had a conversation day one.

If there's any sense of competition or jealousy, we have to talk about it.

We have to get it out because it will just sit in and fester and make it stressful and miserable.

And communication just,

we were smart enough to know then that it was the thing that was going to get us through.

And today, 11 years later, it's still, we're so brutally honest with each other.

And then we say thank you to the other person that we can be so brutally honest with each other.

And I feel like Abby and Alana were like that.

Totally.

And just the other day, for example, Kate was like, you interrupted me a thousand times.

And I was like, thank you so much for letting me know.

We both cried because it was so nice.

And I was like, I'm so glad you feel comfortable telling me.

And she was like, I'm so glad you're going to stop.

It's true.

But, you know, we talk about it a lot here.

Like, you know, a workplace is.

I like to say it's not a family, it's a country.

And I like to say it's a family.

We reject that, but that's great.

And lovers are family.

it's a bed full of lovers

who are all related

a family of lovers

it's a family that everyone borrowed money from each other that's right

no um a workplace is a country and has it has its own culture and language and set of rules and so what one of the things i think that our country believes in is that

In our experience, female friendships are a natural resource.

They are like the most important things in our life.

And for the most part, they're not like these competitive, awful, like,

you know, experiences.

They're often like the most supportive experiences.

And I feel like you're talking exactly about that, that women

often come together and help each other in real time.

And that help is like, you know, like rooting for other people's success never gets in the way of your own, basically.

But that, it's hard to remember that sometimes.

And I think a a lot of work environments are not conducive like ours was easy you're our mentor like it was easy to be like let's team up you know it was a but it sometimes takes a lot of work but i think there's never a time when it's not worth it just to try to like reach out a hand and be like let's be let's be a team instead of enemies like rising tide yeah rising tide

right like i think I actually think you said that once and it was the first time I'd heard.

I printed that quote, I think.

I think you're right.

You know, I have a laptop.

Let's see who who can find who said that faster.

Okay.

Okay.

Get to work.

Hey, I can do it faster.

Immediately friendship.

Lifts all boats is an aphorism associated with what we know.

Oh, it's attributed to John F.

Kennedy.

There is no way.

There is literally no way.

No way.

That dude gets so much credit he doesn't deserve.

How dare you?

I know you're upset.

First, I'm a Catholic.

There's nothing wrong with JFK.

Literally so handsome.

Relax.

My grandmother had a picture of Jesus and JFK in his house.

We had such different grandmas.

So, so that brings me to Million Dollar Advice.

We were talking about the podcast that you two are doing.

We're going to, it's going to be the new season is going to be launching very soon.

Tell us about what that podcast is.

Okay, so our show, Million Dollar Advice, is a work advice podcast where we have people call and email in and we answer their work-related questions.

So it can be anything from like, how do I deal with my shitty boss to Kim's dying for a question about what to do if your coworker owes you money.

I feel like there's, there's questions you guys are not asking us about like you loan someone money for something and they just haven't paid you back.

How do you ask?

Like, how do you ask?

When's it too soon?

When's it gone on too long?

Right, great, good question.

But good question.

But basically, Kim and I, because of this amazing communication and partnership that we have, we almost were like, we got to share this because we were in on something.

I mean, our advice is so good.

It's million dollars.

It's at minimum million dollar advice.

It's so good.

And like, and we get each other through everything.

And so many people don't have this kind of like work friend, work salary.

They don't have an Alana to their Abby or Kate to their Kim.

Right.

Someone would say.

Right.

So we want to do that for people.

And, you know, our first season is like full of the types of questions we're interested in answering.

And we're hoping for that money question.

Yeah, so we're making more.

How can people send in questions?

Million Dollar AdvicePod at gmail.com and they can send an email.

You can leave a voice note, whatever your fancy is, and we'll get back to you and

solve all your problems.

We'll fix your life.

That's the thing.

It's like.

You're wondering, like, how do I fix my life?

What do I do?

It's like so easy.

Email

million dollar advice pod at gmail.com and it's dawn.

Okay, perfect.

And then I'm going to get an airplane.

I'm going to fly to New York.

That's great.

What question do you think I should ask Abby and Alana?

I have a good one.

Okay.

I think I have a really good one.

Okay.

So

when you make a show together, it's like having a new baby.

Like you're all work all the time.

And I was curious, like, what things they did to fill their friendship cup and make sure that they were still like in love, like staying in love during like the most, the hardest, longest hours.

Great question.

Million dollar advice.

We're going to check that out.

We're going to talk about it more.

Abby and Alana, we're going to see them in New York.

Thank you guys so much for coming across the street to this studio from our offices.

Thanks for having us.

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You are a little raspy today because of your Broadway performances.

That's right.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much.

And I cannot wait to talk about it.

It's very exciting.

Abby and Alana are here today.

My

children, wives, sister,

partners in crime, I'm very excited you guys are here.

Thank you for doing this.

We're so excited to be here.

I was thinking about our talk today.

There's just so many things to talk about today.

And I was like, so excited.

Oh my gosh.

Like I have a paper and everything.

For people that don't know, you know, Broad City was a long-running show on Comedy Central that Abby and Alana wrote and starred in and directed and produced and created.

And it was and is like this really important show for a lot of people.

And I was thinking about the last scene today.

What happened in the last scene?

And

what were you trying to say in it?

And has it lasted?

That scene came

as a vision to Paul W.

Downs.

Do you remember that?

That's right.

He came in.

We were writing.

We wrote part of season five in LA in the Airbnb.

And Paul came in one morning and he was like, I had a flash of the last moment.

And I think this is the scene we're talking about.

Where Alana

exits the subway in Union Square and we've FaceTimed.

Yeah.

Right.

And Alana's walking through the city and then the camera leaves Alana.

and sees the other pairs.

I just got chills.

I know.

And he was like, that was like the thing.

And that was, that was what we kind of had always talked about, which is just like, we're, we're one of like

thousands and millions of pairs.

Uh, and we had just been following us.

But

the New York of it all was like, we were showcasing like, oh, there's, there's, these are, there's Abi Nilanas everywhere.

Yes.

And, you know, we end on, do you know Marie Fauston and Sydney Washington, the stand-ups?

But to end on marie and sydney was so perfect just because they're so delicious and they're such an iconic pair of themselves yes um yeah it's so um

i think what we were you know trying to say is that we followed abby and alana but everybody's got there everybody's if you're in your own life oh you're having your own adventures and your parties and new york is such a always this like

infinitely fruitful backdrop for the craziest shit to happen.

I can't get over it.

I've been here 20 years.

I can't get enough.

No, I know.

I can't get enough.

I know.

And

what it was, and I still is, and is that

what you did with that ending, I think, is you gave the show back to the people that loved it.

And that's why I think that the, you know, the DNA.

Cry, cry, cry.

I love to get people to cry.

I think it felt

and still feels like one of the big reasons why that show sticks around is exactly what you said is people feel they are the main characters of their own story.

Everyone is.

And everyone feels like they're living a life that feels

very much like Abby and Alana's life.

Like, how am I piecing together a life in real time?

And the fact that that ending was like passing the baton, it's

very deep.

And I think it has to do a lot with what we're going to talk about today in your work.

So for those people that don't know, let's go back in time time

to little tiny babies.

Alana's 19.

Wow.

Right.

And Ab, you're, what, you're, you guys met, what age and where did you meet?

How did, how did you two?

22.

This is so funny that this is.

Well, I knew this is listening, but um, wow, 19 years ago, my dog.

Yeah.

This is actually, this is crazy that I did this last week.

Uh, we met in a

week.

Oh, Kavila.

in ayahuasca last week and I went right back there

no but we were in an improv practice group like we were both taking classes at UCB yeah I had just graduated college moved here you were still at NYU

you know you you take classes at UCB and then like you're like we got to form a practice group like after school or like at night after your day job our mutual friend Tim Martin I remember he was like, I'm in this class with these two,

it's a brother and sister, and they're great.

Like, can they come and practice with us?

And we were like, yeah.

And

Elliot and Alana came, and I was like,

this girl's on arrested development.

This is crazy.

Like, how does she have time to get off of her?

It just ended.

And I was like, it makes sense.

She's in New York.

Makes sense.

You have like a huge network show and then you go do practice.

Yeah, she's definitely in my practice graphics.

that makes sense well i mean this is a guy for me this is my side and then we go to mcmanus that night which is a bar nearby the theater and we're sitting at the bar uh you and me and it was like other it was only guys in the group except us and we're talking we're like where are you from where are you from and i was like smitten with this person like everyone that meets alanes i was like this person is unlike anyone I've ever met

and not like any of my friends.

And we were just like,

and she was like, I'm from Long Island.

I was like, whoa, like two of my best friends from college are from Long Island.

She's like, I'm from Smithtown.

I was like, so are they?

And I was like, and then I said their names and you were like, I know them.

And I was like, this is not the government.

Oh my God.

Literally crying.

But I remember you were, I'm going to cry as well.

Wait, Alana's crying.

What's making you cry?

When she said Smitten, I started crying.

Oh my gosh, it's just so sweet.

And I remember, you know, dramatically falling under the bar that we know these two same people it's like we're Jews we're from the tri-state area like not that big

and a half hours away oh I was I was changed that Abby knew these two people

what you were saying what was underneath that is like that the universe like it's why it's so thrilling to look back at how things come together

because the smallest changes in our lives go in a completely different way.

And what you were noticing, like the universe was giving you some signs of familiarity, basically.

Like it's, you know, if you believe in past lives, it's like, yeah, oh, we knew each other before.

Like, that's the universe just like making sure you have something to talk about.

So you spend five more minutes talking.

So then you spend 15 minutes talking.

So then you do a show together.

Right, right.

Wait, real quick.

So on Friday, I was in Chelsea and I, where I was going, I'm like confronted with McManus.

Wow.

Wow.

And you said McMattis the first time I like almost made a joke.

It's like so rude.

But like a dumpster with bars, like, like, you know, nailed in the middle.

It's not in the background in New York City for people that are listening.

That used to be kind of the place where everybody after improv shows would hang out.

And it was like green paper tablecloths at the time and French leather seats.

It's just like, yeah, it's like ass grooves and it's never been changed out.

Like you're sitting in

our ass grooves in McManus because it's never been updated.

Like the people in the back were like unattainable.

Like at that point, we were like up at the front looking like

there was this hierarchy at UCB that we never climbed.

We only climbed it outside of UCB through Broad City.

But yeah, the further back you went, it mcmanusis.

Like an invisible velvet road.

Yeah.

But I walked in.

I went in the side door.

Wow.

Like I, it's crazy.

I went in and

we went there so much after that moment.

But I walked in.

We even shot in there.

We shot like the cocktail cold open in McManus.

We needed to shoot there.

But I walked in and just remembered that moment I just said

of you and I at the bar.

Wow.

That's a real time travel moment.

And so you meet and you're like, you're not Alia Shakwat, but I will have you two be in a scene many years later in Broad City.

But you say, okay, I see something in you.

I love being with you.

We like being with each other.

And then you start creating.

What is the, what do you remember like when that creative content stuff started?

Like, you know,

I think being in this improv group, it wasn't like we got so much duo time.

There was something like

a grit that was like a tension that was not the same, the difference between us that when rubbed together, you know, created this spark, this like difference, the differences about us that we were like, that's funny, that's funny.

And I think also as women and as young women, it's

you're kind of safer together.

So it's, it's like, you're going to cry.

Yeah.

No, Abby's correct.

It's,

I love it.

It's so good.

Why do we get our makeup done?

We're not going to get through any questions.

Let's cry the entire time.

And I'm going to get one on deck.

Tissue on deck.

But it's like, you know, I think it's so much about sameness when you're young, when you're a young woman.

But we were, I think, secure enough with each other to recognize our differences and it tickled us.

And beyond our sense of humor, that was both, you know, Venn diagram shared and different, it was also like our work ethic.

We were like desperate to make a spreadsheet, you know?

Yeah.

And we're like, we had these ideas and we were like desperate to list them neatly.

You know what I mean?

Neatly.

I mean, that is, I think, a lot of like your, when you get out of college in that time period where you're like, I need to give myself a job.

I need to be busy

because I've, you know, up until now, schoolwork has kept me busy and like the course or whatever that I've been on has kept me busy.

But you're like, now I have to structure my own busyness.

I have to create busy things.

What something that just is coming up for me is all three of us having worked so much in food and service, you know, and there's so much busyness in that.

You know, I just texted you about Steamers Landing.

You just texted me about that.

Oh, yeah.

What was that place you worked?

Was it actually called Steamer's Landing?

Like, disgusting.

Even if they still exist.

I bet the French fries are good though.

Steamers Landing.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but in Broad City, Paul and Lucia had changed it in a script to

dumpers post.

And I remember we were at the office and we were like first reading a script that they got back to us.

I fell to my knees,

like bent over a couch, fell to my knees, dumped my face.

And we're talking about Paul Downs and Lucia Agnello, who went on, are now creators of hacks and who

wrote and directed and

produced with you and us Broad City.

So like they also have their like baby versions of this experience.

That's right.

Well, we so we did this improv group for like two years before doing anything Broad City, but it was it was the two of them actually who we made one episode of Broad City the web series.

And we were like, again, as Alana said, so organized, so organized.

And it was the two of them who saw it and emailed us and loved it.

The first web episode came out and they

emailed us the two.

Kept doing this.

So when you guys were in your second season of this web series in 2011,

I was down the street living in the West Village

and I get a text from

Upright Citizens Brigade

teacher,

was it Will Hines?

Yeah.

And he said, hey,

check out Abby and Alana.

They're doing some great web series stuff and they wanted to know if you want to do it.

And so I watched a bunch of your stuff, and I thought it was really funny.

And it was shooting right down the street from my house.

And you two asked me to come do a small bit.

We were like

running away, and I remember oranges fell on me at one point.

There were, I don't remember anything about the plot.

What was the plot?

There was barely.

We were running, we were running,

and we were trying to get toward it.

Spoiler, a cookie.

The plot was very Brad City.

We were running to get a cookie.

And

then after that, as far as I remember, very soon after you sent me an email saying,

saying what?

I remember this very well.

We,

that last episode of the web series, we knew we wanted it to be the last one.

It was like more production value.

We like worked with this director who, it was just like bigger.

And

we

emailed you with the cut maybe of it and said,

this is our, we've been thinking and we want to go to LA and pitch this as a show.

Would you ever consider being the executive producer on it?

We were also like kind of excited that we were like pretty much the same height.

And when we first met, and it was just like, this is funny.

You know, like, yeah, we all

literally seeing eye to eye.

Yeah.

And I remember being like, well, we might send it to Jonah Hill.

And we knew we were going to ask you, but we weren't going to ask you on the spot that day.

I was just here to say it was a genius move.

to say you were going to send it to Jonah Hill.

Incredible move.

Your face.

I will never forget.

She goes,

she goes,

that's how you did.

I remember being like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

What the?

I remember just being like, she was like pissed immediately.

Immediately, like, in the race, like, taking, like, immediately, because I am competitive, but I remember thinking, like, no, Jonah Hill can't have broad seats.

Like, so, and this was not a ploy.

We really were like, I think you should cheat.

Jonah Hill, you know what I mean?

Whatever.

But, like, you know, but I remember your, your expression, you know, and like, I don't know.

I remember just thinking later, like, you know, it's always smart to,

it's like in relationships, it's okay sometimes to be like, you're not the only one circling here, honey.

I'm dating, babe.

I'm dating.

You think I'm just waiting around?

Yeah, I'm dating.

I'm not going to.

Okay.

We're open.

So, so, so you sent me the email and I was like, let's go.

We're in.

And we started developing together.

Wait, can I just say one thing?

Yeah.

Your response to that email, I think, was the biggest celebration of the entire 10 years.

I remember it was, it was on my, I caught, I think I have chilled to you, and I was like shooting some short

upstate in the middle of the night.

I was like,

you clearly didn't open your email, open your email.

And like, we were freaking out.

I was like, I think I had to leave a party.

I left a birthday party.

It was like, it was honestly that was it.

Like, I remember all the other milestones, but you saying you were going to, like, that was like your hero believes in you.

That was crazy.

Oh, I'm good.

And then you and we met.

Okay, you were like, well, let's meet about it.

I'm like, okay, let's meet about it.

We met before we met

for like a good hour.

We were like, okay, just to get a, just to like pre-vomit, you know,

and we're like, what's going to be like a community thing?

Just in this hallway, like before we met, I was like, this forever kiddo, Amy Poehler, like, you can just picture what your parents saw you as in the doorway at eight.

Like you're always that like, hey, you know, and like the way you just walked down the hallway to greet us, that was how you walked down the fucking street.

She's like, hello, you know, like all sunshine.

You're wearing these like cute sunglasses and a dress.

And it's just sunshine and this like, ooh, you're like, you're, you're like heart is on your sleeve and it's you at eight.

And we were like, that it was surreal.

That was like really like trippy, gloopy.

The whole lunch was like as though I was tripping my balls off.

After it as well.

I don't know.

I said going to hold it around the meeting.

Because I remember we were like, she watched every web.

Like you came with the legal pad.

We were like, we got to make a teaser.

We made the teaser from the website.

The legal pad going through our

silly little webisodes, what you thought of each one.

And we were like, hummam, mama.

We were like, what is going on?

The thoughts and the,

I don't know, real opinions.

And we were at, which I'm not going to say where.

We were at a restaurant where we were like, this is clearly Amy's favorite favorite restaurant.

Like, you know, those sort of

saying hello to everybody.

Yeah, hello, George, how's your wife?

Oh, Diana.

And we're like, we'll just get toast.

You know, like,

you usually,

you know, what do you get?

Well, we'll get that.

You know, like, just not even knowing how to have,

like, be a person.

Exactly.

I mean, I have just nothing but like exciting bottom of show mountain memories of it.

And, you know,

I, the reason, one of of the many reasons why I'm so thrilled that we're talking today is like, to put it in perspective for me, Broad City made me feel like a real producer.

I had been producing on parks.

I had produced other things and stuff that I had done.

And, you know, we had technically produced our UCB show, even though we didn't know what that was.

That was what we were doing

and our sketches at SNL.

But Broad City felt like the child that made me the mother.

Like, and it, it's still, when I think about it, I feel so proud to have been

along for

the ride and just being in being

helpful in any way.

But I learned so much from watching the two of you.

I learned so much from like trying to advocate for the show.

I learned so much about what kind of stuff I wanted to make.

You know, fully crime.

Oh, my God.

This is it.

Oh my God.

And then plus the voice, it's like gonna seem so insane.

But it's like, dude, like, it's just like you, I don't want to cut you off.

No, no, no.

But it's like, you know, I remember this one time that we had lunch or whatever.

And like, you talked about the sexual politic of the show.

And I was like,

I remember like,

then we'd be like out talking and I'd be like, well, what we're really trying to do is the sexual politic of the show.

show.

Oh my God.

Can I have like a full tissue?

This gross half tissue.

But talk about sexual politic for a second.

Very, I've said this before.

Immediately what I learned, and this is why I love like the best thing about getting older is like being less and less certain about everything.

If you're doing it right, you just know, you're supposed to be, you're supposed to let go of the grasp of the things you think you know.

And that is what I think young people do, people younger than you do.

And even just the very simple way in which you guys approached your own bodies, your own bodies in space, your own bodies in the show, the way you approached, I mean, I remember very

specifically saying, you know,

you know, if you don't want to get in your underwear for this, for this scene, the pilot.

And the pilot, if you guys feel uncomfortable and you're like, we wrote it, we are.

the ones writing that we're in our underwear and we're so comfortable with how the dynamic is in the scene.

We're so like, thank you, good looking out, but you're, but you're kind of missing the the point in a way.

And there was a lot of that for me where I watched how you two

reminded me of like what I, what was like an old story or like old programming.

Like, I think it's what Brad City did a lot and still does.

I will say on that, I don't know how

fully comfortable I was in those scenes,

but I think that was also like, okay, over here, we wrote it.

And I like loved it so much.

And I knew that like Abby as actor will have to deal with that when we get to the day

and for me

that like I feel like that like broad city was in a moment for me of like a little bit later

uh like huge growth like I feel like I grew up a little later I'm gonna fully cry like and and in so many ways because of Alana

which is

so like the Abby and Alana that's what's happening

like the confidence

Like I think, first of all, like

but the confidence like of the that dynamic of like like Abby is the insecure one and Alana's got this like bravado and that's like something that I was like learning right alongside the character because that was real.

Yeah.

You know, like us being

us being, sorry, I'm laughing.

We we are, but us being the hottest women in like any room is like, that was like not how I approached going out.

And we, I would go out with Alana as a friend, and that would be like, and I don't know if that was like a fake it till you make it, but that was like the charge of like, yeah, you know, we are.

And my ass is the like the hot, like my ass being a hot thing was

not something I ever thought we'd focus on so much.

Still love it.

And then I was like, I only, like, only through Alana, but like that, among many other things, was like such a huge change for me.

And I think like, so like us being in our underwear, I was like able to be like, I might not be comfortable, but like, I know this is so right.

And this is so powerful and like so funny.

I mean, I think that's what female friendships at their best do is they

provide this.

the opposite of a funhouse mirror.

Like they provide this like beautiful mirror that you get to look in and see this version of yourself that your friend sees.

And you're right.

It's very, it's, that's aspirational.

It's kind of manifesty, but it is like you are sexy if you say so, and you're beautiful if you feel so.

And everybody is beautiful and sexy and in their own way.

And sometimes you just can't, you have to have like a surrogate feel it for you.

Yeah.

And that's what you do for each other in female friendships.

And that's what exactly what Abby and Alana did constantly.

It's just, and it's good for comedy, like pumping each other up is funny.

Oh, it's so funny.

And, you know, to the point before of what I was saying about sexual politic, you just validated us as women, not as girls.

Everybody called us girls, even the people working for us.

You know, they called the girls whatever.

You called us women at such a young time where I was like, damn, I suppose we are.

And then, you know,

like with comedy, I mean, it's just, I just will never, it's just the fucking best.

Comedy is just the fucking best.

Why is it the best?

Because it's like, it's, um, it's this cosmic container that just lifts you up off the ground of like the systems we're rooted in and just connects people so efficiently it's so efficient you know just whatever obviously farts are the funniest someone farts doesn't i i disagree

i'm not the biggest fart is funny fan like if somebody farts in a context where they're not supposed to you don't giggle i don't think

ish it really depends like that was actually a big thing for us on the set of parks and rec because like people would fart and i'd be like don't fart just like in the in life?

Yeah, like on somebody else.

I don't know.

I don't think that.

That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about that.

I'm talking if they accidentally fart, I feel a little codependently worried about them.

No, I mean, like, if somebody farts as a joke to invade your space with odors, that's not cool.

That's like sibling.

Yes.

That's like not shenanigans.

They don't like that.

Well, what, when are fights?

Okay, so I remember a good Broad City fart.

I'm meeting your parents.

It's at like your Shiva, and Bob Balaban picks me up, and we're like, and we're adding a fart there.

That's what I'm talking about.

Changed your mind.

I'm talking about professorial

masterful fart comedy.

That was really thoroughly thought out and intentional.

But you're right, a little squeeze that comes into a little, like, and like, like, we added it.

It was cute.

That's right.

Maybe it's the cute.

The farts are cute.

And also cute.

Oh, for sure.

But I'm also talking about like adding a sound effect.

Or when we did, just we did add the sound effect.

Yeah, yeah.

We got a editing.

I i hear you and and and and what and then just to stay in the to get us on the air we you write a script we go to fx we try to make it at fx they pass and we kind of have a moment where we have to regroup i remember just going back to what you were talking about maybe like when you felt like producer i remember you would be the one that would have to deliver that news to us.

I did.

I learned a lot.

Yes, that was a big deal.

In real time, I was learning on the job.

You know, I was like, like, like all of us, like you sometimes at fake t-make, you have to kind of pretend.

And I remember thinking, right, my job here is to

never let,

never let anyone feel like, you know, we're not going to solve this problem.

Cause it's just, you're supposed to, you're supposed to keep the ship in the water and you don't, you know, and other people can steer it, but you have to make sure it doesn't sink.

And so I remember not quite knowing where we were going to go next, but feeling like I needed to make sure that you felt like we we were going to go somewhere good.

I think we did.

And you did.

Yeah.

I'm remembering now another lunch at a place that we never would go, but we were like, totally, we'll meet you there.

And it's going to be chill.

Balthazar.

Anyway.

So we like members of lunch.

Oh, my God.

But you were like,

so, you know, lucky for us, Comedy Central had wanted us, which isn't always the case.

And you were like, FX is like a cold boyfriend.

You don't even want them.

No.

Anyway.

You don't want that boyfriend anyway.

And it was like, yeah, I don't.

Yeah.

And that time, Comedy Central, maybe to let people know,

we were in such good company.

Who else was on the air during that time?

Kim Peale.

Kim Peel.

Workaholics who had a similar

web to TV.

Amy Schumer, Inside Amy Schumer, Crowley Show.

Maybe Nathan for you.

Yeah, that's right.

Early Nathan Fielder.

Yeah.

It was such an incredible time.

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Why do you think it's come, you know, it's like sprung back in this way right now?

It must feel good to have people still come up to you and

say they love it and say who they think they are.

And it's also like such an newly, as we are like becoming like

literally middle-aged adults, it's like such a sweet,

such a sweet connective thing when people talk about it.

When we were younger, they thought we wanted, they thought we improvised it.

We were like, we work so hard to write this over and over and over again.

You know, it's just improv, it's left together, and that we're like stone.

Like if they're meeting us on the street, that we're stoned in that moment or whatever.

And it's like,

we think we're the characters from the show.

And like what it is now is like, it's just reached this like, such a warm, sweet

bed for connection.

I don't know if you experience, I mean, when we're, we haven't for a second been like out together, but that's a whole other thing of people are like, what are you guys doing on the street together?

But like my wife, Jodi, like, she's like, this is unlike anything.

Like to have someone witness it, she's like, you get this,

we like this wild positive affirmation like coming at you.

That is so rare.

That is like a really, I feel very thankful all the time for that.

Before we move off of the Broad City section, I do want to just for like people that are big fans, hottest day on set,

coldest day on set.

Any memories of like when you were very hot, very cold?

Everything was so sweaty, literally sweaty.

And I don't know why I was always wearing skinny jeans.

So really added to it.

Babe, it was the time.

We were, Alana sent me something where like something happened and I was like,

you know what's going to happen when you know what's going to happen when you're 70?

This is because this has now started to finally happen.

Skinny jeans are gonna come back around, and people are gonna, but people are gonna be like, This is so cool, these really tight skinny jeans.

And you're gonna say, you know, I used to wear it.

It's wild.

I was hoping, you know, I don't know, but maybe.

I mean, remember skinny jeans?

I mean, what, what, I'm trying to think of like good outside.

They're still going out.

They're still, I still see people in them.

Yeah, I see millennials being like, fuck you.

I don't care.

I'm wearing skinny jeans.

I feel organized in them.

And I'm like, get it.

Yeah.

Well, that's what I mean.

It's just now it's like all the way around to if you're wearing skinny jeans, you're a confident person.

Yeah.

You're, you know.

But I also had these straight down bags for a lot of the show.

Yeah.

And I remember they would get, maybe just be fully soaking wet.

Top and wet.

Marcel has to be like, can you dry the bangs?

That's so funny.

That was so funny.

And

guest stars, who comes to mind is people that when you just like pops in your head is like, oh, that was a fun day.

That was a good moment.

That was, there's so many great people that came through the show.

RuPaul just cracks me up.

He was so, he was so like studying his lines and saying them to himself that I was like, damn.

And I would say Kelly Rippa.

I mean, just the way, just her being that version we wrote of her was wild.

She was bad Kelly Rippa.

That was too.

Like her joy was like, oh my God.

Like she really wanted to be there.

And it was like so contagious.

And do you remember Lady Gaga tweeting about the show?

How important that was?

Yes.

We were in the writer's room.

That was a season two, end of season one.

And she was like, oh my God, they used my song.

My favorite, I think it was like my favorite show used my song.

And we met her.

She like asked us to come or invited us to a performance and we like went on her bus.

And like the thing she was.

She went on her bus.

Yeah, it was like right outside the performance or whatever.

And she was so kind, being like, you remind me when I watch your show, I feel like I'm not famous and I'm young again.

And like just running around the city before all of this, which, you know, she was clearly grateful for, but also was clearly quite heavy.

And it was so many years ago, it was like, before now, she's like such a woman.

We got her song.

I mean, how did we even afford her song?

How did we

do that?

I have no idea.

I didn't pay for it, but how did we do that?

I think she liked it.

It was like if someone involved liked the show someone's manager or something i don't know

um whoopee whoopee came in did he whoopie beg wordless background role sister america yeah that was wild that was wild and i remember like meeting her and being like and she comes in the trailer she is such a badass like so herself the same she's exactly who you'd think she is and

And I like, we were just like acting totally cool.

And we were also in stages that were like illegal and like an abandoned building, essentially.

And I was like, well, she was like leaving and I was like, thanks so much.

It meant so much to me.

And then I, she left, and I like immediately turned around and wept and like cried in rubble and like Bushwick rubble that we were filming in for some reason.

Because she was so, not only did she do her show, but like such a real ass bitch, such a like a comedy girl, real woman.

Oh my God, Shania Twain.

I think about that a lot actually because we got her to say, man, a fee like a smoothie.

I think about a lot of people.

So game.

So game.

She was like, that was like so crazy.

Yeah.

She did that for, I mean,

you're pointing at me.

Oh, boy.

I'm like, that should be a show.

That was the bear.

We did the bear before the bear.

You did the bear before the bear.

We did the bear before the bear.

You're right.

And for people, there was a scene where I was in the back of the kitchen and there was a whole drama with me and Seth Morris.

Another of our exes.

Really were exes.

And we just created a little bit of a thing.

And you're right.

You know what?

The bears stole.

The bears stole from Broad City.

You heard it here from the corner.

And you directed that.

Yeah.

I mean, what the fuck?

What the fuck?

So we do this thing where we talk to people about our guests before they come on.

And I was really trying to think about who I wanted to talk to.

And what organically came up for me was Kim Lessing and Kate Arendt, the producers, co-heads of Paper Kite, have worked together for 10 plus years.

They are millennials and they started when Brad City was, I think, Kate's second or third day was we were doing notes on like episode two of Broad City.

So I asked them

what they would want to know from you.

And from a workplace perspective, they were curious, how did you

keep your relationship, your actual

intimate friendship healthy while you were working together.

And like, as you've gone on to work on other things, like what, what, how do you keep your workplace healthy knowing what you know now?

And how did you do it then too?

What do you, how do you like to work?

And what do you bring into your work to keep it healthy?

As incredible as it was to make Broad City, it was like we would like always make sure to have a little time up top to connect and catch up.

LOL catch up from 12 hours ago or whatever it was.

But like,

you know, but like it just, it feels like so,

I don't know, so human to now have dinner and just be, lately we have been like crying so much.

It's been so, it's so like juicy and delicious and nutritious and sweet.

But at the time, it was very much slotted in to catch up.

And things would always make their way into the comedy, which is cool, but it's not the same as it being its own, just for the sake of its own beauty, you know?

And I think we knew that the catching up,

it was like the catching up was essential for the thing.

Like we knew that like it's so derived from us.

So like we had to kind of like catch up and be like, okay, that's

write that down for this thing.

What helped you during those times?

Like what was the stuff you like.

Did you pick your battles?

Did you?

Well, I think like something also was like, I'm thinking about it too, because like there was tension, like rise and release of tension constantly.

And I think like a lot of it was like boundaries and space and being like, see you later.

Yeah.

And like taking the space.

Well, we didn't like hang out.

I think when we were doing it, we weren't like, we would see you on Monday.

We weren't like as our friends anymore.

We were friends during Broad City.

We couldn't.

Yeah.

So it's almost like you had to put that a little bit aside, just like not like not let it atrophy, but not give it a lot of oxygen while you were doing the show.

Yeah, it was very like after school.

club, you know what I mean?

In that it's like this thing of like slotting in 45 minutes to talk before we focus.

It's like it wasn't, it is so, like it feels so beautiful now to like, just not have a, a, a task at hand, you know?

Um,

but during that time, even though we weren't on the weekends, I would be like, you know, if something was happening, I'd be like, Alana, I'm going on a date.

Like, what am I, what do I wear?

It wasn't like, don't speak to me.

Sure.

It was just like, after truly like 12, 14 hours of Monday through Friday, we were like, let's not do dinner on that.

Who did you go on the date with and what did you wear?

Well, I do.

I honestly will remember.

I remember like, this is post-Broad City.

I saw you the day before I met Jody.

Oh, my God.

And I was like, telling me what I'm going to wear.

Your beautiful wife, Jody.

Jody.

And like a lot of people.

Wait, tell us that story.

You were going on a date with Jody.

You were in LA and you were staying at Liz's house and I was like, I'm going on a date.

By going on a date, it was like so deep COVID.

She was like coming over to my house to the patio.

And I was like, I think I'm just going to wear like,

I know what I wore.

I was like, I think I'm just going to wear this sweater and like black.

I don't know.

Like we were still doing that and you were like,

don't do too much, you know?

Totally.

What you wear on a date's really important.

Yeah.

Because it's

a lot.

I'm excited.

I'm not excited.

I don't care.

I want to have sex.

I don't want to, like, there's a ton of things happening.

Yeah.

And it worked because

you bagged that babe.

Yep.

You have a brave sister.

You bagged that babe.

That babe was obsessed.

And y'all are so beautiful and romantic.

Like, you're such a beautiful couple.

Oh, my God.

So, like, also hot.

Hot.

Hot as fuck.

Beautiful.

And, and both of you have had a very busy 10 years.

You become a mom.

Both of you have gotten married.

Like, you've both done a ton of different projects that you're writing, creating.

Like, there's so much that's happened.

And I guess I was curious, like, like a lot of motherhood is a big

creative

center in a lot of your work.

You talk about it a lot on stage.

You made a movie about it, babes.

You have this way in which you're like peeling that onion a lot.

And

what's it brought?

How is it in how it is?

How has it expanded you and your work?

It just has organized everything for me appropriately.

Things are just like in their right place now, like in my, in my heart.

And it's been so creative.

And work also like, um,

is work.

It's not,

and it's a creative context, but it's not like how I figure out who I am.

It's a part of who I am.

Yeah, I just feel correctly organized.

That's very cool.

Ab what about the past?

That's very cool.

What about you, Ab, the past 10 years with all the different projects that you're working on and worked on?

How has that changed your creative?

Because, I mean, I'm curious about you as a fine artist, too.

I mean, you're like, you're,

you come from

a

fine art world.

Like, people don't know,

for people who don't know, in what way do you express yourself that way?

And is it always changing?

You don't do that much anymore.

You're good at drawing, girl.

I, I, thank you.

Do you want me to say it?

I did, I went to art school.

You went to art school.

I went to art school and I, like, I, I'm, a big like goal of mine would be to do, to get back into painting and do, have, like, a show.

What do you like about painting?

I think I'm in my head a lot, which I think is something that we really

bonded over.

Yeah.

And it's very meditative for me.

But like, I've painted two and a half paintings in the past two years.

You should say you're the painter that makes one painter a year, and then everybody comes and watches you finish it.

That's what a guy would do.

I know.

No, I'm dying to do it.

Like, I think it's just like he'd be like, it's like

I only do two and a half.

Yeah.

And everybody's like, he's a genius.

Yeah, a withholding genius.

You're right.

God, he's genius.

It takes me a whole year to do it.

Exactly.

And can I ask you about Prelude?

Yeah.

Can you talk about it?

Oh, my God.

Yes, I forgot I told you all about.

Oh, and you did the thing.

I did the thing.

Do you want to talk about it a little bit?

Yeah, we're in the thick of it right now.

Okay, so Prelude is this fellowship program I created with Mika Tennant, who's like my partner.

And it's an eight-month program where there's 10 fellows that we select, and it's early, early, early career storytellers.

And so there's 10.

We set them up with mentors and there's ongoing programming with, they have mentorship every month.

We have programming every month that I run the programming every month.

I have people come in and talk where I ask them questions.

Amy

kicked it off, which was like, they still talk about that.

They still like, cannot believe that you came.

Of course.

And so I'm realizing.

that like for me, like the success is that they have confidence in themselves.

And that's, that's like, that's like the best that we can, like, that would be like my goal.

They all leave feeling like they have confidence and that they have, they know that like someone believes in them, which like truly, just to go back full circle, which is like what you did for us.

Like, and I said this to you on the day, I'm going to cry again.

When I had you, like that, you believing in us and what we were doing, like, I think is, is what like has fueled us to do everything we've done since.

And I'm like, if I could do that for them, that is, yeah.

That is so cool, Abby.

Awesome.

And it really does feel kind of like

I'm crying again, everybody who's listening, crying again.

And I just want to ask about Good Night and Good Luck because Alana, it's very exciting.

Like a Broadway debut is, it's such a singular goal.

Did you have it?

Did you ever have that goal?

Did you want to be on Broadway?

Like,

I am accentuating the way.

Broadway.

I know.

Comedians, a bunch of comedians.

It was supposed to be Broadway.

Talking about Broadway.

It wasn't really in my, like,

I didn't think about it as, especially since I had a child.

It's so time-consuming.

And since I've kind of got my stand-up and touring, like now I like get it, how to do it, how I do it.

Like, so, so Broadway, like, you're so like in someone else's control.

I just hadn't thought about it.

It was, it was such an incredible experience.

You know, it reminds me of Broad City.

And then also before that, the early days of comedy, you're just seeing the same people night after night after night.

George Clooney was the co-writer and star of

performance.

An angel.

An angel.

He is an angel.

He is my hero.

He is my hero from like the personal human being to the public figure.

He is,

oh my gosh.

It was such a,

such a privilege to perform his writing.

And, you know, Ab, we don't have to get into it, but you had a beautiful relationship in League of Their Own.

What was the best takeaway of that show?

Oh, I was just talking to Darcy about it.

I know.

Darcy Carl.

The most kissable.

I know.

And just so

she is kissable.

So funny because I was like, because I kissed Paul so much on Brad City.

And then I was like, I guess I'm going to kiss another one of my really closer friends.

Because then we kiss our friends.

But it also is like, I found like,

I don't know, like,

I don't know.

I think I'll do that forever of like, I'm in love with my friends.

And like, there's already that chemistry there.

But

I guess in the middle, in the middle of Broad City is when I was like, oh, wow, I think I like women too.

Which was like, obviously, Lilana was like very much there for me during that.

Of course.

And then I was like, like everything else, I want to put that in the show.

Right.

And that was very much in the show with Clea, who

that was so fun.

And I was so happy that that lined up to get to have that on Broad City.

It was like truly us like getting to explore what was happening to me, was happening with Abby, and like differently, but the same, which was, which was incredible to be able to do that.

And then on League, like, I loved making that show.

It was, it was very hard.

in a lot of different ways.

It was a period show.

It was like baseball.

It was

the inner workings of Amazon is not Comedy Central.

That was, there was a lot more money.

And at the end of the day, I was like, I'm writing this ensemble.

And everybody, like, it is just a bigger sort of like friend group.

And so I was like, that, like, to expand that into like a group was like incredible.

And then to get to write this love story.

with Darcy was like, it was a dream.

We've really responded to that relationship and that story.

Yeah, it's been a really cool,

it's kind of like on the, like on the street kind of thing.

I'm like, I know what, which one you're going to say based on what you look like.

And having made comedy for so long, what do you, what's your relationship to comedy now?

What do you watch,

read,

go to?

Like, how do you make yourself laugh right now?

What's making you laugh?

Who's making you laugh?

Like, what's the, what's the place when the world is getting really intense that you like, where do you escape?

I have a hard time.

Yeah.

like

and so I have two things uh but I like I I don't I have a hard time finding them so I'm very interested okay so I just saw this just I just last week I saw Cape Burlant's new show oh wow right at the bellhouse

I mean oh she's I haven't laughed that much

in a in a long time oh so live Cape Burlant wrecked she's on tour I think right starting now and then the show I'm watching that I'm obsessed with that like like Brooke told me about.

Yeah.

Brooke Posh.

Brooke Posh.

Instrumental in

the early Brad City.

Big Boys.

Big singing.

Big Boys.

No.

Guys.

Okay, hold on.

It's Googling right now.

It's so good.

It's on Hulu.

It's from the UK.

Okay.

It's so

and it's like the mix of like, it's so funny and really heart.

Like there's heart.

It's like it got me.

Okay, so it's a it's a sitcom.

Yeah.

Two boys from very different ends of the spectrum of masculinity become best friends at Brent University Fresher's Week in their first year at university.

They explore, experiment, and try to discover themselves.

Yeah.

I never read the description.

That's what it is.

All right.

And Alana, what are you listening to?

How do you check out or laugh?

I've been really, it's like

I want to see Kate's show.

I really love like what my friends are making, like hacks.

I've been, I still have to catch up on season four, but that's been really killing me in like a good way where I'm just like, oh, this is so good and so funny.

I'm like living.

I'm dying.

You know what I mean?

And also the last time I laughed so hard was at O'Mary.

Oh my gosh.

I just, I just died.

I'm like starting to get into like old movies though.

I just watched Prince of Tides.

Okay,

Barbara Streisand.

David like wants to watch all of Barbara's Streisand stuff because we have like

biographies of little

for little kid books.

And we're like looking at Barbara and reading her life story.

And we're like, let's just watch the catalog.

And she's

so stunning.

She does

nails and Prince of Tides.

She directed that.

She directed that.

She did that.

And Nick Nulty.

Like the gorgeous.

Yeah.

And to see, first of all, she's so hot and beautiful.

Yeah.

And I'm like looking up in Wikipedia and doing the math.

She's like 53 in it.

And she directed herself and is like, yeah, I'm fucking gorgeous and so Jewish.

She's psychiatrist.

She's 16.

Would she say Prince of Toids?

Would it be Toys?

Toys.

She went,

it's just like, get it, bitch.

Get it.

Get it.

No kidding.

She has a bio that just came out.

Autobiography.

And her, and you should hear her do the

audiobook.

Yeah, she's incredible.

Barbara, we know you're watching.

Yeah.

And listen to Barbara.

Please come, please.

Dude, that would be a dream.

Such a good guest.

Barbara, when Tina and I did the movie Sisters, her husband, James Brolin, played our dad.

And my parents visited the set one day, and my mom was like, I wonder if Barbara Streisand's ever going to come.

And I was like, Mom, Barbara's not going to come visit,

you know, on Long Island, the set of sisters.

Her husband is an actor.

And she did.

And it was the day my mother was there.

Yes, dude.

Wow.

She came to visit.

You know, just came to drop by to see her.

That's the gorgeous, loving husband, James.

And my mom was like, I told you.

And I was like, this doesn't happen all the time.

don't get used to this did they have a moment um they did I mean they had like a little hello she was lovely and very very lovely to us and you're right we don't talk we Barbara when you come on let's talk about your the things you've directed I want to talk to you just as a director like truly it was so cool and you know learning like how to light yourself as a woman in your 40s and your 50s and your 60s just be like just like make it soft just like feel she is like irresistible we were just like she is so hot.

I had a broad city movement the other day that I was, that was, it felt very broad city, speaking of lighting yourself as I was shooting something.

And I was looking at the monitor and I said, can I just take a peek to see where you are at with lighting?

And the

young director of the piece said, oh, don't worry, you look great.

And I was like, can I give you a little feedback?

I think when women, especially my age, ask for the monitor, saying, don't worry, you look great is not helpful like it's not it's not like we're being fain or insecure or like we're just like trying to tweak just what like we would our voice or performance like we kind of we have a sense of like how we're gonna feel comfortable and how we want to come across like lighting is a big deal I don't think he understands this person understands I think he's actually

trying

to make me feel better.

I totally get it, but it's just like

lol bro.

LOL bro.

I mean, O-M-G-L-O-L, bro.

And then a little push.

Did you get to see?

Huh?

Did you get to see French?

Of course, of course.

All you do is you go like this.

Yeah, I mean, it's always, it's always, and this is very broad city, it's always like, how much in the moment do you want to like

correct?

And how much do you want to just like, you know, it is.

I mean, I think what we're talking about today is the reason why people love the show is they feel like there's like people looking out for each other, sticking up for each other, taking care of each other there's a community in the show there's like a vibe and then what that does it allows you to do that for yourself like that's and then you become your own advocate for yourself that's what the characters that's right i had a broad city moment on saturday too i don't know if it has a big culmination like this but i went to a premiere and i went alone okay which is wild and then i went to the party after and i was like wild i'm gonna schmooze and all those and i and i knew someone and i was like okay we're eating we get a invite, and then we're going up to the bar.

I was like, let's get a drink.

And we go to get a drink.

And they were like,

they were like, you know what?

I don't want to hold the martini.

I have to pee.

I'm going to go pee.

And I was like, all right, well, what do you want?

I'll get it.

And I get the drink.

And I was like, oh, look at me at this premiere.

I get the two martinis and then they never came back.

And so I truly was like,

I was like standing with two dirty martinis and I was like,

and I was like, looking like a

people would come up to me.

And then I told Jodie later, I was like, oh, God, like people will come up to me that I knew.

And then people come up to me that love Broad City.

Me holding the two martinis.

And I was like, I'm for the, I'm fucking Abby.

I'm a fucking Abby.

And I was wearing a thing where like I kind of had to keep adjusting it.

Finally, I was like, this one looks better.

And I was like, started drinking.

I was like, I abandoned.

And then

how many minutes would you say that you were double-fisting martinis?

I would say too many.

Tiny number.

I would probably say 20.

Yo.

Yeah.

Okay.

No, I was like,

she's going to come back here.

And then I was like, this is a good martini.

They made it.

Like, they made it.

I didn't pay for it, but I was like, Abby, like, it was so

good.

They made it free.

What am I going to put in?

I'm going to waste a martini.

And then I was watching me, and I don't want them to think that I'm going to be able to get it.

And then I was like,

I abandoned it.

And then I later was like, I'm going to leave it.

In the spirit of like self-improvement, if it was 20 this time how many minutes will you give it next time you know there's no world in which I'm getting the drink when someone goes to the bathroom next time I think I'd be like a correction I'll see you when you get back I'm gonna get myself a drink and Alana have you had an Alana moment recently is there something that happens where you're like oh this is an Alana moment

I have one that I like can't say that I'll tell you after

you can't say

naughty

naughty hello have you had an Abby moment us filling it in might be more fun Kind of like what you were talking about with your show, like us filling in what your Ayana moment is.

Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, babe.

Yeah, let's leave it at that.

Okay, well, dot, dot, dot, it is.

I love you too.

Thank you so much for doing this.

I love talking about the show.

I love talking about what's next.

You always were.

You always will be.

Not from, not, oh, Amy Poehler.

She's an icon.

No, from the fucking in-the-flesh, delicious, forever, eight-year-old person that you are, mother that you have always been to us, big sister, just friend.

You're just incredible.

We're so grateful.

Thank you for letting this eight-year-old be your producer.

She did it.

She did it good.

Thank you guys.

Thank you, Abby and Alana.

Thank you for coming and doing the pod.

It was so, so great to talk to you.

And it's just a delight always to see the two of you together.

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The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.

The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.

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Original music by Amy Miles.