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Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

Boy, we have a superstar, a pop star, an incredibly talented, wonderful woman named Renee Rapp joining us today.

We're so excited to have Renee here.

We are going to talk about so many things.

We're going to talk about falling in love.

We're going to talk about standing up to bullies.

We're going to listen to her new music, which is incredible.

Her record, Bite Me, is coming out at the end of the summer, and her new single, single,

Leave Me Alone, is out now.

It's so good.

And we're going to talk about what it means to make music during these times.

It's fun and funny, and I can't wait for you to listen.

And we start these podcasts the same way all the time.

We try to get our guests' friends or fans or people who want to give me a question to ask our guest on the line.

And today

we have Cara Delavine, beautiful actress, model, director, gal about town, a total delight.

And Cara is joining us from Paris, and she's going to tell me what to ask Renee.

Hi, Cara.

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Hello, Cara.

Have we never met?

I mean, I feel like perhaps I've walked past you at an event.

And I've never stopped you and hugged you.

Not yet, but now.

But now.

Like, I feel like I just, I adore you and I'm such a huge fan.

And I feel like I know you so well because I think parks and rec probably saved my life during COVID.

So, like, I feel like I know you.

So, if I'd seen you, I would have run up to you and probably kissed your feet, if I'm going to be real with you.

I just, I just got back from work.

So, I'm just getting into my hotel room and then I will sit down.

Of course, take your time.

We have people doing these Zooms from restaurant bathrooms, from set,

from cars.

So, oh, perfect.

I'm talking talking to amy pola i'm on her podcast my girlfriend's a big fan

she's freaked out she doesn't understand

i i would tell the camera but she's naked oh my god that's how i imagine your life that's how exactly how you love the podcast yes i know i just we do good hang we are good at with the best hang okay so we're talking to the great renee rap today who

exactly just be

your favorite and i know my favorite can you tell me how you guys met i literally don't even think we've known each other that long, but

through my old manager, he was like, you know, I always want to be behind the camera in as many ways possible.

And I think music videos is a great way of doing that.

And he was like, Would you be interested in directing a video for Renee Rap?

And I was like, Yeah, obviously, let me let's talk though.

Let's get on the phone.

And what I realized about Renee, again, for someone who is nearly 10 years younger than me, she is

a consummate professional.

Her voice can just like break me to the floor while also like lift my spirits.

But also, when you've worked with someone who's a musician, who's also an actor and who's so brilliant and just can like take direction, take notes, be spontaneous.

Um,

yeah, she's so good at that.

Okay.

And then, um, my question to you is, what do you think I should ask Renee today?

There's a lot I know about her, but I want to hear what you think.

I had so many questions that I wanted to ask, and then I realized a lot of people won't understand the questions.

So, for everyone, the questions that I wanted to ask her: number one was: if she was a drag king,

so not a drag queen for the people that don't know that drag king, so dresses in drag as a man, what would her drag name be?

Great, very important.

What would yours be?

Okay, let me think about this.

Well, I'm going to think about the old trick where you sometimes take the street you grew up on and your first pet name.

So mine would be Bradley Algonquin.

Hot.

I can imagine the dance you're doing too.

Yeah.

So my guy, I think, would probably be a professor, like some kind of professor.

Hot.

With a mustache.

With braces, a bow tie?

Yeah.

And just, and he's just like.

He's just kind of like sternly telling you to get your work done.

Obsessed.

Disciplinarian.

Professor Algonquin.

I can't claim this one, but someone, a drag king, is called Clit Eastwood, which I just

incredible.

I wish I'd made that up.

It's not mine.

I don't know what mine would be, but I'm not the one being asked questions.

And the other question would be, oh, oh, if Renee had to be in a girl band,

like the Spice Girl, it doesn't matter how many people of female singers, rappers, whoever, dead or alive, who would it be?

Honestly, that's the hardest question, I think.

Oh, that's such a good question.

Renee is going to be so happy that we talked today, I think, because, you know, these are always surprises.

So fuck, Renee, any excuses to talk to you.

I mean, good night.

Anytime.

Thank you.

You're the good person.

Anyone.

Oh, my gosh.

I know.

I love Renee.

I'm so glad it was.

Okay, we'll just come back next week and we'll just talk about whoever that is.

I will.

I'm going to find a a job to do so I can just come and talk about it.

Yes, please.

I would love that.

That's how it works.

Thank you so much for your time.

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Woohoo!

Renee, I'm so happy you're here.

I'm so excited.

I've been listening to your, I've been lucky enough to listen to your, Can we listen to your song right now?

Please.

Okay.

Of course.

I love this song.

Thanks.

Is it weird to listen to your music?

I mean,

I'm forced to listen to it a lot.

So, no, it's not weird.

Is this your first single?

It's fun.

It's so good.

It's got like a runaways Joan Jet.

Yeah.

Oh, 100%.

100%.

I know I like it.

And it's very crunchy.

Thanks, dude.

Thanks.

I'm partial.

It's so good to like music.

100%.

I really like

music.

Thank you.

It's very sweet.

I really like music.

It's so safe.

I'm glad that you like it.

It would be shit if you hated it.

Yeah, I wouldn't tell you.

You know what I mean?

But it's this record is so good.

Congratulations.

We're going to talk all about it.

Thanks.

How are you today?

How are you feeling today?

Good.

Renee Rapp.

Yeah.

I first met you without you meeting me.

So I guess I should say I first saw you on Tina Faye's phone.

Love.

I mean, that's kind of like a sick thing for me to know that that's where you first seen me.

I'm like, oh my God, that's so cute.

I saw Tina said, listen to this woman sing, basically, and played a video of you singing.

And we both.

kind of watched it together in awe, as I imagine a lot of people do when they first hear you sing.

Thanks.

And

you were, you know, I think you were already hired maybe at that point to do Mean Girls,

which was, give us a sense of what time that was.

What year was that?

Probably

2019.

Right.

And you were how old?

19.

Dang.

And what do you remember around that time about getting that part?

I was just like, so entitled.

I was just so entitled.

I was just like, yeah.

okay.

Sure thing.

You were like, I got it.

Nailed it.

Yeah.

Do you remember the audition?

Yeah, totally.

What was it like?

I auditioned a bunch of times.

And when I first auditioned, I remember I was like, I need to dress really girly.

And at that time in my life, I was like,

I mean, I was dressing.

horrifically, first of all.

What do you mean?

Like an infinity scarf, a legging.

Like, I was, I was like, my like.

And you're telling me those are not cool?

No, no no like i love a little like small infinity scarf you know like tiny knit

yeah but that was just like i don't know i was just dressing crazy i was dressing crazy i'd also like just started making money so i discovered like athleisure and i was like a musical theater person who was moving to new york and i was like fuck you guys all wear these little lulemon skirts right right right assholes i gotta get one so i was dressing crazy so i was like all right i gotta dress the part.

And I looked fucking insane.

I just looked so terrible.

And I remember being like, I can't walk in these heels.

And this skirt is like making my ass sweat so crazy.

I have to go home.

And I did a terrible, terrible first audition.

It's true.

The wrong clothes can really fuck you up.

Yeah, big time.

Fuck you up.

I

oh, hated it, hated it, hated it.

So then the next audition, I went back, changed clothes, wore some pants,

skinny jeans.

Hey, that was nice.

And I looked less bad,

did better.

What did you sing for your audition?

Do you remember?

No, but I remember that an ex-boyfriend picked it out for me.

Yeah, because I was like, he was a musical theater major in college and just smarter than I was.

And

he was like, oh, I think I said something.

I was like, I'm gonna sing like a Beyonce song and he was like like what the fuck for he's like like cool but at that time it wasn't like you know the girls weren't doing pop like I think they are now yeah and

he gave me something fuck I don't remember he was like sing something from HMS Pinafore literally he was like

in a color dream coat exactly exactly so I remember I did that.

And then after that, the auditions I went back, I just had to sing songs from the show.

That was way fucking easier.

Yeah, because I hate having to make decisions.

Written by the great Jeff Richmond.

Let's give it up for Jeff Richmond, who's an incredible musician, and Tina's husband, and my friend for many years.

He's so talented.

There are no two people cuter.

It's kind of outrageous.

They are a power couple.

It is kind of outrageous.

And I am not the biggest fan of musicals.

Sorry.

I like them.

I don't love them.

That's stupid.

I'm not either.

I love me and girls music.

I love the music.

It's really fun.

Yeah.

It's really, really fun.

And what did you like doing a Broadway show?

And how many shows did you end up doing before COVID hit?

I mean, it was super fucking hard.

I don't know.

I did like six and a half months.

So I did like half of what would have been my like contract.

Just like did a ton of fucking shows.

You just do literally so many.

Holy shit.

And the hardest part of your day is at the end of your day.

Absolutely.

Actually, do you know what?

No, the hardest part of my day was like the mental game of waking up and waiting the entire day

and planning your entire life

around doing a show at night.

And I want to, I know you identify primarily, you know, like you identify gay.

Yes.

We're going to talk about that.

No, no, go ahead.

Rude.

Yeah.

But you identify as a musician and singer in many ways more than an actor, right?

Is that true?

I think so.

Okay.

But I do want to just talk about the Jimmy Awards.

Please.

Because

for people who don't know what the Jimmy Awards are, what are they for people who've never seen them the

most intense

hormonal um

scary yeah scary really intense and i don't say that about other people i mean that more about like myself like i was a fucking terror i didn't make a friend the entire week so they're a high school competition yeah okay so yes actually so what it is is a high school theater i'm like you went

way in yeah no it's a high school theater competition uh

All across the country.

Yes, correct.

And everyone kind of competes.

And a lot of like very famous people have been discovered through the Jimmy Awards, you being one of them.

Do you feel like you were discovered because you did the Jimmy Awards?

Like in many ways?

I feel like, I mean, it definitely like,

it definitely gave me like

leverage because I was like,

just

kind of an asshole.

And I was like, you guys are going to pay attention to me whether you like it or not.

Yeah, you were really feeling like that's the, when I watch your performance on it.

That is definitely what I feel is this vibe of, um,

I'm, I've arrived and I'm ready.

You felt that then,

like,

yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Have you always been this kind of person, Renee?

Like, have you had some kind of inner compass that like tells you

you have?

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah.

Where do you think that comes from?

I literally have no idea.

Like, from inception

to now,

same way, same way, like always.

And don't get me wrong, like, I think my parents have those qualities absolutely, but like, even before,

you know, when you're like a little tiny thing and you start to sort of like take on parts of your own personality, and as those become, you know, what they are, I was always

like,

just like super driven, crazy, like a little bit angry and like ready to go.

That's, and do you think you like,

it says a little woo-woo, but do you think you've lived before?

Do you think you've been here before?

Because that's a very, you know, it's like, did you think you arrived with some, like, are you a reincarnated?

No, there's no way because I wouldn't have come back.

I'd be like, I'm not doing this shit again.

I'm like, I'm not doing that shit again.

No, this is your first time.

Gotta be.

You're so centered.

Gotta be.

From a little, from a young age, you know who you are.

Definitely.

I think I'm just very, like,

i just always been very feisty yeah but also when when i was like being born i guess hey when i was being born

and like in when i was there being born when i was like shooting out yep my mom uh like chose my first and last name to be okay

arguably chose my first and last name to both have like ours yeah she was like alliteration just in case she um wants to be a pop star like before i was born which is so fucking headass and is so conceited and I'm obsessed with the way she did it I'm like thank you God she gave you a pop star name

just in case because Renee Rapp is a huge pop star name it's a really good one and Renee Rapp is a huge pop star

um do you remember the moment when you sang or when you watched people realize that you had an exceptional voice.

You have an exceptional voice, beautiful voice that can do so many things.

And everybody says like, oh, my kid's a good singer.

You know, my daughter loves to sing, whatever.

But there is always a moment where somebody sings and everyone looks at each other and says, Holy shit, she's really good.

Do you remember a moment where you or someone locked in and knew you know your ambition and talent were matching?

It didn't match for a very long time.

Really?

No.

I don't think.

Well, are you hard on yourself?

100%.

But also, my parents were never like,

my kid's a fucking star.

Yeah.

They were like,

like, I would, I would, like, come off of like a stage, or even like, I played a lot of sports growing up, come off the field, like, court, whatever.

And they'd be like, you know, where you messed up.

And I'd be like, I'm five.

This is crazy.

This is crazy.

But also, my dad has relative pitch.

So he's very musically inclined.

What does that mean?

Relative pitch.

So basically, like, if I was flat, he'd know.

Like, he has a really good ear.

He has a really, really good ear.

So he was always like,

you know, where you were flat, right?

So I was, I was like, fuck.

So they were really getting you trained.

Like, you're, you're, you're, are you trained, or did you ever do any musical training?

Like, anything?

I did, like,

I was in choir.

Yeah.

I was in choir.

I took piano lessons

when I was a kid,

but they gave me panic attacks.

I got very stressed.

And I would start crying.

So I stopped.

Good.

Got rid of that.

But I did, I feel like choir was like how I learned kind of how to like

blend.

So I don't want to say like, no, I have no training.

What were you?

Were you alto soprano?

What were you in your?

I was an alto in choir.

You have the hardest lines.

Thank you, Sopranos.

You have the hardest lines, yeah.

Because altos sing like they're far away from the choir

and singing a different song.

Yes.

Oh, 100%.

They're just like, and I will.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And the sopranos are, what were you?

Were you sopranos?

I was a soprano.

Congrats.

I was a soprano.

Thank you.

But also, sopranos are bitches.

Like, yeah, if you're a soprano, everybody's turned out.

They're like, oh, congratulations.

You get to sing the song.

Right, exactly.

The altos have to sing some weird dirge that is unlikely.

Of course.

It's like, you know, the

All I Want for Christmas is what the fuck is the alto line.

Okay, what is it?

It's just like, okay, you sing the.

I don't want to lie.

For Christmas, there is just one thing I need.

And I

like it's the same shit, the whole song.

And that's exactly what being an alto in a choir is.

And then occasionally having to memorize the most difficult line of music.

That has nothing to do with what the song is.

Couldn't be less.

It is so

confusing.

And you know what happens when those altos go away?

The song falls apart.

It falls apart.

You have like a very shrill, pitchy soprano and like tenor boys who are like not at all developed yet.

Yes.

Singing like shit.

Yeah.

They're the bottom of the pyramid.

The altos are like when you do the cheerleader pyramid, if all those bottom gals decided to just leave.

What do you do when the bottoms are gone?

We always say that.

What are you going to do when the bottoms are gone?

Nothing to top.

Nothing to top.

Nothing to top if the altos are removed.

Nope.

That's what my girlfriend needs me.

That's it, right?

She needs me.

It's interesting.

What I'm realizing is, I'm asking you these like technical questions, but I'm realizing how you come to singing is very intuitive.

It's like what you're feeling in the moment.

Totally.

So, do you do vocal warm-ups?

No.

Incredible.

Hate.

Can't do it.

Don't like them.

Don't like them.

Makes me too anxious.

Puts me in my head.

Anytime I've ever done

a warm-up before

a performance,

I have done so shit.

That is so interesting.

I can understand that because it then becomes very important.

Yeah.

And I'm like thinking about it and I'm thinking about the like different technicalities or whatever my voice.

And I don't, that's not how I learned how to sing.

So I don't think

whenever I try and do that, it's kind of like going back on the actual thing that I know how to do.

How did you learn how to sing?

How would you describe it?

Listen to Beyonce, tried to match it.

Like genuinely.

Like I was like, well, this is it.

Yeah.

So I gotta do that.

Yes.

You know, you've like, you let music come from all around you and you, like, you, you brought music in and you're less concerned about trying to be 100%.

Yeah.

100%.

Have you met and talked to Beyonce?

I've, I have met.

I have met Beyonce.

Would you like to tell us?

Would you like to tell us how?

I was forced.

Okay.

I was forced.

Management?

No.

By one of my best friends who is

like, just she will always introduce me to someone.

Always.

She's like, you must.

And for Beyoncé, she was like, this is your like hero.

Like, this is your.

Set the scene.

Where were you?

So we were at a party after I just told everybody at this Oscar's party that Nemo was the best film ever made.

And they're like, cool, she's going to work for a long time.

And

and we went to an after party and i was with like two or three of my really good friends and my friend cara is like the best person to have out with you because she is like your biggest cheerleader ever is like cara delavine yes she

like she will take

she just like will literally she'll be like renee i gotta like hold you for a sec like she's like one of the greatest friends on planet earth but knows how much i love beyonce and is really fearless about it.

And

I was like, oh my fucking God.

I was like, Beyonce's literally standing here.

That's so crazy.

And the whole day she had been saying, she was like, we're just going to introduce you to her.

Like, like, they invited you.

Like, it's okay.

Like, she, like, you guys, like, I'm sure that she loves you.

I was like, no, no, no.

Like, we really should, like, tone it down.

And

I was.

Did you see her in the room?

Yep.

No, definitely.

Okay, you had some liquid courage.

She was in the room.

Yeah, she was in the room and um very blonde and i think like probably the most beautiful person i've ever seen um in real life ever

and i love my girlfriend but like she knows you don't compete where you can't compare and i

can't like can't like what are you gonna do you put anyone in a category with beyonce it's going down so sure

Cara was like, you must say hi to her.

I'm like getting so anxious talking about it.

It makes me, I'm like, I could vomit.

She was like, you have to.

And I was like, you walk me up there, bitch, and I will kill you.

I'll kill you in front of everybody here.

But Patrick's like, you meant the opposite.

The truth is, I didn't.

You didn't.

Oh, she dragged me.

And I was like, having such a like a visceral reaction.

I was like, this is my hero.

I can't do this.

I would never even like want to bother her or anything.

And

I just went, and she was like, oh my God, hi.

I was like,

you don't have to do that.

It's okay.

Love you.

Lovely to meet you.

You got really sleepy.

And I just was like, I couldn't look at her at all.

Sure.

I also was super,

I love to have a good time.

And I was gone.

So I was like, hey, so nice to meet you.

Thanks for having us.

Like, you know, like, basically, you hurried her along.

Oh, she didn't get a word in edge-wise.

I was like, I got to go.

And she was like, oh, it's so lovely.

I was like, no, no, no, no, don't even worry about that.

You just have a good night, ma'am.

I'm going to head on out.

You're like, we're going to get you in the car now and you're going to, we're going to get you home.

I literally, I turned around maybe three feet, middle of a party, middle of a party, screamed, top of my lungs, turned around in that car, and I was like,

and she was still very close.

Yeah, she was super close.

I could have walked a bit further, but I was so, I was like, I can't do this.

It was the greatest night of my life.

Do you want to, do you want to meet her again?

And do you think you'll be cooler when you, no, that's it.

I can't.

We can't talk.

We can't.

I mean, like, sometimes you just don't want to meet.

I can't, I can't.

It's too much.

Also, she'll be like, this woman just screamed like two feet away from me.

And I'll be like, I totally did.

I'm so sorry.

Like, how could I ever do that around your ear?

She probably is used to people like hearing people

tweak tweak after they meet her for sure.

I once met Prince at SNL.

He came off stage after doing a sound check and walked past me.

And I said, How was your summer?

That was what I said to him.

What did he say?

He was like, He just went like, Hey,

like, can you imagine that being the question you asked, Prince?

Yeah, um, terrible.

No, it's

okay.

Let me talk about your album, okay?

Because this music, your record, what's the name of your record?

Bite me.

Amazing.

Yeah, I kind of forgot.

I was like,

yep, got it.

Okay, bite me.

So, incredible.

And it is very, I was talking to you when we were, hold on, I got to play the song again.

Go

because, um, stream my stream my shit.

Yeah, okay, so that's what music is: is you stream it now.

I guess, yeah, you just stream it now.

It's funny that you say cannonball.

Sorry.

You're so cute.

No, please don't.

Come on, Nana needs to listen to it again.

No, Nana.

Come on, Nana.

It's funny.

Come on, Nana.

Let's go.

Nana's get on up.

No, but you know what?

It's funny that you say cannonball in it because it did have a breeders vibe.

Like there's a heavy, like PJ Harvey vibe.

And

what it

And what I like about your music is, I feel like I'm in conversation with you.

You're in conversation with us.

Totally.

I mean, hopefully, yeah.

And there's, not to get too, you know, like, but I did, you know, I don't always do research on the guests because like I understand.

Cause I'm like, it's okay.

Of course.

But I did listen to all of your songs many, many times.

Oh my God, thank you.

And so I just want to, I want everyone to know that.

But no, but

there were two songs that the one, Why Is She Still Here?

And I can't be, is it I Can't Be Around You Anymore?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Those two songs, everyone listen to those two.

They feel like they're from the perspective of two women in the same, like it's

a very cool coupling, those two songs.

They're great songs.

Thank you.

Thank you.

They're like some of my favorites.

And that is true.

They're kind of A and B to each other.

Right?

One is like, why is she still here?

What's going on?

And the other is, there's something going on.

Yeah.

We can't really handle.

And I can't be around you anymore is that's a killer song.

Thank you.

I'm obsessed with that song.

I love that song.

And that's a good example, I feel, like, of where you're able to show restraint because you have to kind of sing it.

You're singing it in a way that really makes us feel some, like really feel it deeply.

It's so good.

Thanks.

It's really, it's

going to be a late night driving song for a lot of people.

Yeah.

It is for me.

Yeah.

100%.

And it's going to be the kind of song that people send to each other, like, hey, and they're just going to send it and be like, I can't see you anymore because

we have too much chemistry.

I got excellent.

Exo.

They're like, we're actually.

I mean, is there anything hotter than being like, we can't see each other anymore?

It's so hot.

It's like, we literally

can't.

You have to leave me alone.

Of course.

So then you do, you have to see that person again.

Yeah.

Must all the time.

You can't.

You have to, but you can't.

Of course.

It's too dangerous.

It's forbidden.

Yes.

It's forbidden.

Romeo and Juliet.

Damsel.

Fuck.

Balcony.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Suicide.

Balcony.

Suicide.

Balcony, suicide.

Speaking of love.

Suicide.

Speaking of love.

How did you meet your girlfriend?

Similarly, locked her in my house.

Kind of same thing to Beyonce.

Toa Bird, for people who don't know, an incredible musician.

Opened for you

and was kind of discovered

like online, right?

Like, totally performing and doing videos like during the pandemic online.

Yes, yeah, we always joke around that we're like the two TikTok signings at our

label.

I had known of her for like the longest time because she's super talented and is really sexy, and so obviously, I knew of her.

And because all the sexy, you clock all the sexy, yeah, yeah, I have like a roll of ducks, I got a list, and like who's hot, got it.

Um,

but yeah, she, I I was, I just always like thought she was just so fucking cool.

And I had asked one of my best friends to introduce me to her.

And

yeah, I was like, you have to introduce me to her.

He was like, I don't know if she's like

in a place in her life where she's like wanting to like meet anyone.

I was like, I really couldn't give a fuck less.

I'm not either, but I'm going to meet her.

Yeah.

We need to be, at least be friends.

Yeah.

You were like, there's something about her that feels.

Yeah.

I was like, I need, like, I, I need to know her like super bad.

And so then he introduced me to her and she was so fucking mean to me.

And I was like, wait, and what?

She likes that?

Loved it.

But she's scary.

She's,

yeah.

Well, she's like from the UK.

So like her humor is also super different, but she's also just such a bitch.

Like, what did she say?

Well, I was like, I've heard so much about you.

And she was like, why are you talking so much about me then?

And I was like, she's really negging you.

Yeah, I was like, oh, my God.

And then speaking of negging, the next time we talked, I was like, we were talking about cars because I love cars and also the movie.

Good animated film.

Holy shit.

I always say

that Larry, the cable guy, should have been nominated for an Oscar.

I mean, it's huge.

His performance as Toe Mater is

incredible.

It is unfortunate.

And I hear laughter and that's rude because.

Because it's true.

It is true.

His performance is incredible.

No, it's stunning.

Agree.

It's stunning.

I just re-watched Cars 2 recently.

I cried in bed, obsessed with it.

But anyway, how the fuck?

Oh, okay.

So we were talking about cars, and she was telling me what kind of car she drove at the time.

And I was like, oh, that's so interesting.

I wouldn't like peg you for someone who would drive a car.

And she looked at me, or who would drive a car?

Who would drive that kind of car?

And she was like, oh, you don't want to peg me?

And I was like,

I was like, oh, I'm not a car.

I was freaky.

I was like, free.

I was like, I am so confident and so like.

She, she,

she went over the top.

She, she

topped a top.

She literally topped a top.

She flirted.

Shepped.

She tiptoped to top.

She tiptoed on my top.

You like confidence.

Love.

Okay.

Love.

And what would be, okay, so she's super confident.

And then you're like, okay, now she's a challenge.

Yeah, of course.

I was like, now, now I'm like, you just, you, you, you want me so bad.

Just say it.

You want me to do that?

That is true.

Yeah.

That is awesome.

Yeah.

And so then you started dating.

Yeah, then we started dating.

And who said I love you first?

She, she told me, I'm so sorry, babe, but she told me we were sat on the beach and incredible.

High

um, out of our mind.

Okay.

Sorry.

And

I was so beyond in love with her.

Like, I've never been so scared to, like, fall in love with somebody in my life.

I was like, oh, Jesus.

I was like, we're either going to get married or I can never speak to her again.

Like, it's like that kind of like, I just am so, I like worship her.

I think she's perfect.

And

yeah, she was like, I think I'm falling in love with you.

And I literally didn't answer, didn't say a word.

I'm on shrooms.

The sun is setting.

I'm like, sure.

It's a bit cold.

There's like a TikToker behind us that I'm obsessed with.

Who?

Which one?

Her name is Flossy Baby.

Oh, I know Flossy Baby.

She couldn't be more hilarious.

She was behind you during it.

She's behind us on the beach, but I can't say anything to her because I'm like, Flossy, she doesn't know me at this point.

Yeah.

A lot going on.

Yeah.

We know each other now because I broke everything down to to her on Toe's birthday because I invited her.

I said, You don't understand what a big part of our lives you are.

Flossy baby.

I'm obsessed with her.

And so To was telling me this, and I was like,

And, but I was high, distracted by Flossy Baby.

So I was like, I was like, I was like, there's no way she just said this to me.

And what if I'm receiving it wrong because of things that are impairing

my thought process and natural plants?

So I didn't say anything.

And I said,

repeat one more time.

And she was like, are you fucking kidding me right now?

I was like, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Let me lock back in.

I love you too.

Like, I was like, of course.

And it was the craziest.

I love you too, of course.

Wait, love you too.

I love you too, of course.

Honey, you're so cute.

And yeah, I was just like, I'm obsessed with you.

And Flossy Baby's here, too.

It was awesome.

It was awesome.

It was so fun.

It was so fun.

Wow.

So it really feels like real, true, beautiful love.

I love love.

That's so great.

And what is it like working together?

You guys have been on, like, do you tour together now still?

We did.

I mean, she'll, we'll, like, we'll go out for shows for her.

Will she be playing with you for any of these shows that you're going to do?

100%.

Wow.

What's that like?

How do you stay

in love and work together?

It's not always easy.

No, I mean, she, like, I think I just respect her so much as a musician that

I

am kind of always looking to her.

Like, seeking her approval kind of sounds like she's doing something really terrible to me, but like, I'm like, I'm always, yeah, like, I want to know, I really respect her opinion.

Yeah, I really respect her opinion.

And I think she has amazing taste.

And I think that there are so many things and ways that she's so much smarter than me.

And I love having that in a partner because I want to learn from her all the time.

But there have also been times where where like we've worked in sessions together and we're writing for each other's projects.

And

she's super fun to write with, so easy to collaborate with.

And I don't think I'm as much like that for her because we were writing and God bless her.

We

like left and I was like, you seem, you seem a bit upset with me.

And she was like, no, I just like, I don't think I, I don't think you needed to like nitpick my vocals all that much.

And I was like, got it, got it, got it.

So what had happened was I was like trying to vocal produce her on like a demo for like the better part of an hour and a half.

And I was like,

again,

again.

You were like, I can tell why you're a little flat.

Yeah.

I said, sorry.

Do you know where you were wrong?

She was like, cool, cool, cool.

So I don't know if she wants to work with me again,

but I love working with her.

Yes.

I love working with her.

I don't think I'm maybe the person for her, which I totally get.

I'm a bit neurotic.

It's funny.

You are a bit neurotic.

You don't seem neurotic.

In like a studio setting.

Okay, okay.

I'm pretty insufferable to be around.

You want to get it right.

Yeah, it's got to be, it's got to be it.

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The two of you are very, very sweet together and very, very like, you know, I know that the, you know, the people that are fans of yours like already know this, but

you're very, um,

you're a very sweet example, I think, of like a beautiful young lesbian couple that are very open and very loving in real time.

And it goes back to, I think, Renee, something that's very special about you, which is you very generously like shared

in many ways with the world your own journey.

about how you wanted to identify.

And I'm thinking about this story that I heard when you did SNL

and you were working with the writer Celeste.

And do you want to tell that story?

I mean, it's the best.

It's an incredible story.

It's so, it's, it's the best.

I, so they, Celeste and a couple of other people had written into the skit that I was doing.

Um, they're like, okay, we're going to call you a little bisexual intern.

And at that time, I was like very, like publicly bisexual.

I had been for a very long time.

And like in private, I was like talking with my girlfriend and a lot of my friends for the last maybe like eight months before that of being like, I actually like don't really feel very like bi at the moment.

I feel like very much like a lesbian and like it feels so nice and like that word feels amazing and it feels very like euphoric for me.

So I was like, do you think that we could just change it to like gay?

Cause I was honestly a little, I don't know, like labeling yourself publicly is

really,

really, really empowering and also I think can be kind of intimidating because you're like, Jesus fucking Christ, this feels so good for me right now.

And I don't want to go buy something that doesn't feel correct, but I'm also going to like give myself the willingness to be like, what if in 10 years I don't like that identity either?

And I just want to, I don't know, like, what if in 10 years I'm completely different in terms of my identity and sexuality or like my gender expression, anything like that?

Or if I decide to be a really nice person, then I want to be like, wait, I'm fucking nice,

right?

I want to have the grace to be able to change from being a bitch to being a sweetheart.

So whatever.

But yeah, I was just like, I maybe like gay.

I don't know.

And Celeste was like, fuck yeah, like literally whatever you want.

And I was like, okay, A.

And I fucking love Celeste.

And then I was talking to Bowen about it.

And I was like, I kind of just want to be like

like slur.

No, I kind of just want to be like, like lesbian.

I was like, I'm just going to kind of do it.

And I called Toa.

And then I was like, babe, I think I'm just going to like rip.

Like, I think it feels good.

Also to come out as a lesbian on like SNL is like pretty cunky.

I was like, I'm going to do it for sure.

And I was also like, okay, I'm probably going to disappoint a lot of people who felt like they connected with the very openly bisexual part of me.

And I'm also probably going to piss a lot of other people off.

And I was like, okay, what else do I live to do other than like cause like a controversy?

Sue me.

Like, fine.

Okay.

What a big fucking problem.

So then I just, I wanted to do it, and Bowen and Celeste and everybody were like, hell yeah.

What's been the feedback?

What, how did it feel to do it?

And what did anything change after you did it?

I mean, I definitely, I kind of just like didn't even like look online afterward because I was like, I don't.

How did it feel in your life, in your real life?

Amazing.

Yeah.

So fucking good.

Like, so fucking good.

I think also just like being from somewhere incredibly rural,

you know, you,

I don't know, like, you don't like,

it's just like, it's like fucking like MAGA Town where I grew up at.

And like, it always has been.

And it's probably better now than it was when I was a kid, or it's 10 times worse in so many ways.

So I think for me, I was like, it was, it was really interesting because I think a lot of the people who I grew up around who were incredibly homophobic are very supportive of me now that I

am like a public person because I think the idea of fame and wealth can sometimes trump hate if it's close in proximity, which is really fucking frustrating.

Cause I'm like, I know you don't like anybody else who's gay and you don't like me either.

You just like the idea of the closeness to like something that is very shallow so much so that you're willing to like put your bigotry to the side for a second to be like, oh, I babysat her.

I'm like, no, you're a fucking homophobe and I don't like you to the day.

And I will never like you.

my neighbors are boycotting target for having like a pride line i'm like i could give a fuck about y'all i could give a fuck about y'all so that in that way really frustrated me yeah because i was like you don't get to be like supportive of this thing now that it's easy for you and fun for you and something for you to fucking brag about yeah you must feel very used so used so used yeah and then on the other side of that i like love being a lesbian and i love the lesbian community so much and i love like the communities surrounding lesbians that like

like really fuck with us.

I don't know.

So there's like there's really bad and there's really really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I also like I love to watch people come out publicly who feel like they can and then like change their identity or not.

It's just kind of, I don't know.

It's not for everyone, but like for me, it was definitely an integral part of my life.

Well, I think what you're talking about is that by doing it, you're just kind of like leading by example this idea that

everything doesn't have to be so serious.

Like you can decide, as long as it's you deciding,

then you can decide however and whenever and wherever you want.

It can be in your parents' house.

It can be on SNL.

It can be in a relationship.

Like that is, I think, what,

if I may speak for myself, like what Gen Z has done for me,

right?

What young people do for me is I came up at a time when labels meant so much.

They were

not only were they lifelong, they were like tattoos, right?

So people were very, very afraid.

Like, what if I get something wrong, basically?

What if I get it wrong?

Or, like, to your point, what if I want to change?

Or what if I'm kind of 10% this and 90% that?

Or what if I'm in the middle?

There was no, there was, it was really binary.

Yeah.

And Gen Z, because life has been so serious,

Gen Z is kind of balanced it by saying, like, it's not that serious.

Yeah.

It's not that, it's okay.

It's make a mistake or not.

Totally.

Decide however you want.

Totally.

Relax.

And there's some way that you did that.

And the way that you do that, the way you live authentically, that's very relaxing.

And I think it's very cool.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Very cool.

It's nice.

I like, I don't know, I enjoy it.

I also just have like a big like group of like

gay friends around me.

Like I like have like my like gaggle of lesbians.

So, speaking of, please, um, we do a thing here where we ask your friends or people that know you to talk well behind your back.

They talk shit about me.

No, okay.

I believe it.

It's totally fine.

No, it's got it.

Nope.

It's like, it's like,

it's like the on the it's like mean girls, but not mean girls.

It's the other side of it, which is basically we got um Cara Delavine.

We talked to her today.

Bitch.

Such a fucking bitch.

Whore.

Common whore.

Incredible.

By the way, when we called her, she was in Paris and there was her partner was naked in the bed.

So

she was wearing headphones and like she's so, I mean, supermodels are so hot.

Models are so hot.

Models are so hot.

We got to start talking about it more.

Models are so fucking hot.

Let's just be clear.

Models are so fucking hot.

I know a lot of, yeah, this is a hot take.

Yeah.

Models are hot.

Models are hot.

Yeah, and they're pretty.

They're pretty on camera they're pretty during the day they're pretty during the night all the time yeah literally all the time good job models cara wanted me to ask you a couple questions please okay i'm sure they're she had incredible

i was gonna say i'm sure they're very pg

and and very normal okay and super yeah totally first of all what would your drag king name be oh my gosh i know i got i'll get i'll let you think so good i got a little put on the spot and i yeah what did you say well i picked what um

i i i got nervous that's okay so um i said you know like when you're trying when you're trying to figure out like your dancer name your exotic dancer name

you do the um street that you grew up on and your first pet

oh no i didn't know that okay this is because i what is these

probably because i this was said in like 1970.

it's good but um so my the street so i said bradley algonquin was my drag king name because that was the street I grew up on and I had a guinea pig named Bradley.

Oh, I thought your guinea pig's name was Algonquin.

No, I was like, wait.

Yeah,

yeah, I know.

But anyway, we'll cut this part out.

No, I like it.

I like it.

I actually think it's pretty strong.

There's nothing worse than giving a drag name and people going, wait, what?

Explain it.

And then you have to explain it.

And then they go, no, I like it.

Well, Algonquin is where I was like, I was more just like, where's the guinea pig?

Yeah.

Algonquin.

Actually, yeah.

But that was your street name?

So I just gave that to myself.

But again, no one's ever going to hear this.

We're going to bring all this up.

In my social security, it's as follows.

Okay.

So what is your drag king name?

And do you like, I mean, I actually have to say, like, what I really love about you is like your experimentation with mask and femme.

You do it a lot in your, in your work and in the way you dress.

And I really relate to that because I'm always very confused about how to dress.

A hundred

fucking percent.

Very confused.

And you present both often.

Like you're, you go back and forth.

And again, you're showing us by example that you don't have to choose.

Saying.

I've like watched so many people do it so well.

Who does it well?

I mean,

not to be like so annoying, but like my girlfriend does it really well.

I wasn't going to say, but she really does do it well.

Like she's fine as hell.

What are you going to do?

Yeah.

Take me out.

Like it's fine.

She really does.

Fuck.

I don't know.

I would say I fucked.

I didn't know how to answer it.

It's a really good question.

I mean, we could think of some fun pun, like,

you know, instead of,

you know, we, instead of

Timothy Chalamay, you could be called Timothy Shaligay.

Is that good?

That's it.

That's actually it.

Right?

I can't even explain to you how much exactly that is it,

but it is.

Oh my God, we did it.

That's perfect.

And then the other question she had, which was amazing,

who would be in your girl band?

If you could put together a girl band, dead or alive.

If you could put together a girl band, good, good girl, oh my god.

Okay, I have a real one and I have a fake one.

Okay, great.

Okay, the real one would be me, Karen Carpenter,

Beyonce,

and

oh maybe like queen latifah or something amazing something so sick dana owens

i'm like i love queen latifah i'm like please that would be so hard

have you ever met her again i was forced yeah by cara how funny and she takes me up to everybody that i'm scared of she is so great like like no surprise but

amazing she's amazing she's fucking amazing she's so fucking cool and it was was also just like so, she's like timeless.

She's so timeless to me.

So that's your real band.

Then what about you?

Said you had a fake one.

Yes.

Fake band is me, Nini Leaks, Ellen DeGeneres, and Wendy Williams.

That's the one I want.

That's the one I want.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I want that.

Bad.

Keep talking about it.

I'll tell you.

Who would be your manager of that band?

Probably Cara.

Yeah.

She'd manage it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She'd manage it.

I don't know how much like managing would be like done, but I know that she'd manage it.

And who would be your opening act?

If you guys went on the road, maybe like

you as your character from inside out.

Oh my God.

I would dress up as Joy and be your opening act.

Yeah.

That'd be super cute.

That would be

head, like face paint.

Okay.

Like your true face paint.

Yeah.

That would be like an acid trip.

I would love to do acid whilst doing that.

Totally.

I'd be like, this is fucking awesome.

And then we also get Ellen to like do Dory as well.

That would be on the side.

Hold on.

Now I see it.

Now, thank you for that.

That's great.

So I'll come out as Joy from Inside Out, and then Ellen will join me as Dory.

Oh, oh, my fucking.

And then you assume that's all we're going to see about it.

Sorry, Carl.

She comes back, she washes her face paint right and she comes back in the van.

As a girl group, yeah.

I mean, fuck.

Yeah, fuck.

That sold out.

As you would say, that fucks.

No, that fucks.

Yeah, that fucks.

That does fuck.

Yeah.

Now,

what are you listening to these days, watching, doing?

Like, how do you check out when you're like, when you need to rest your brain or get away from the hard stuff?

What's making you laugh?

What are you?

Where do you go?

I watch.

Oh, sorry, go.

No, what do you watch?

No, no, I'll kill myself.

I'd love to hear what people are watching.

I watch SVU.

Okay.

I watch SVU.

Which one?

Law and Order with

Mirch for Maloney and Marsh Bahargate.

That's right.

So talk to me about why that

that's a good checkout for you.

I love them.

Yeah.

I love them.

Like, what the fuck are you doing?

Yeah.

It's also the writing on that show is so crazy.

It's so crazy.

It's like,

got burped dead.

Yep.

What a shame.

Raped?

Absolutely.

Whoa.

No trigger warning.

Right.

And then it's like a cut to,

it's so intense and there's so much going on you're like holy shit this is um either i can't tell if this is awesome or if it's so

so bad and i think everyone would agree with that it's quick and i need something that's quick because i don't want time to think about something else because then i'll start tweaking and i also think christopher maloney is kind of fucking jacked and it's it's hot he's not kind of fucking he's super jacked have you ever seen the picture of him in like a middle split when he did like men's health this one one?

Love.

I'm going to say something.

And I love Christopher Maloney.

I did a movie with him.

I don't like men doing splits.

Can I be honest?

I don't like.

I don't find that attractive.

I, yeah.

No straight woman.

Totally.

I don't enjoy flexible men.

I couldn't agree more.

I don't like.

This is.

And some of my friends do this, and that's okay.

I do just want to flag.

Some of y'all do this and that's all right.

I'm not big into boys flipping.

Doing Doing backflips.

We got to cut that out.

Oh, I don't like.

Okay.

And this is

a very personal.

Right.

You don't even like boys.

No.

But this is just my personal preference.

Yeah.

I totally agree.

Any kind of like goofy gymnastics?

Totally.

I've just been like verbally and physically assaulted by too many like theater boys, theater like twinks, the straight theater twinks who ruined my life as kids.

Who are like, wait, I do a flip.

And so the director was like, front and center.

Front and center.

They're like, do that flip yeah yeah they're like come on come on joey and like joey is only getting front and center because the director has a massive crush on him and he can do a flip this is before you time but there was a movie a great movie called the outsiders do you know that movie heard of it okay so it was like based off of a book and it was all young rabblow and young um patrick swayzee and yeah boys all these boys yeah and tom cruise is famously in it and he's one of the and it's one of his first films and he's like one of the bad guys and i remember being like he's cool and then he does a back flip in it.

And I was like, tap down.

No.

Immediately out.

Immediately out.

I lost, he lost it for me.

There's something about it that's a bit vulnerable.

I'm like, wait, cut that out.

You're a boy.

What are you doing?

Yeah.

And look, I've seen you lift your leg.

You are very flexible.

Now, girls can be flexible.

Boys shouldn't be flexible.

Boys shouldn't be allowed to be flexible.

Cut that shit out.

Cut that shit out.

But I've seen you sing and lift your leg like this when your leg is like uplift.

And that, that too is similar to the flipping something that people shouldn't do.

No, that's not true.

If you can do it, you should do it all the way.

Oh, if you're like dancing or doing something fucking incredible, absolutely.

But like people shouldn't do what I did.

That's what I'm doing.

I'm going to take back my thing, though, about boys and gymnastics for one reason.

Two times I found men doing gymnastics exciting.

One was in Footloose

when Kevin Bacon's stunt double during his dance break, he swung on a high bar in a barn.

And I was like, But that's cool.

That's not cool.

Yeah, that was cool.

That was cool.

That's like, what are you doing on that pole, you little slut?

That's cute.

That's cute.

That's okay.

And I liked it, and

it didn't bother me.

Yeah.

And the other one was that great gymnast that was on the pommel horse that wants

with the glasses.

Obsessed with that.

Okay, cute.

He can do that.

But that's like their, that's his job.

That's his job.

You know what?

That's his job.

If backflips are your, and splits are your job, do it.

Do it.

Tenfold.

Go for it.

Love it.

You're good at your job.

Commit.

If you're just doing it in the middle of the street,

keep walking.

And I'm not saying that, like, if I could flip, which I can't, so I'm not like, I'm not hating because I can't do it.

Are you sure?

Wait a minute.

Hold on.

You just brought something up.

Do you think we're hating on it because we can't do it?

Literally, no, I think it's weird.

I'm sorry.

And that's, and by the way, that doesn't mean that other people should say it's weird about anybody else.

Okay.

Because I really like, I love my friends.

And if they want to flip, fucking flip.

It's just not my thing.

It's not my thing.

You know, if the back flippers come for us,

they're going to fucking, whatever.

I'm ready.

If the backflippers come from us, we can just run away because they're backflipping all the time.

But they'll kick us.

They will kick us.

Think about the strength in that, in that thigh.

I mean, have you ever done this where I love Law and Order?

The original Law and Order, the first like 12 seasons, like with Benji Bratt.

I've never watched it.

I'll lock in.

It's so good with Jerry Orbach and Esapatha Merkassen as the lieutenant.

It's just like it's the early law and orders that every, it's the, you know, Sweet Generous.

It's the mothership that all of them were based off of.

And

they have that little exchange always before the bump bump.

And you can sometimes guess, guess the last line.

Absolutely.

I love doing that.

Oh my God.

There was one last night I wish I could remember because it's just so crazy.

It's so crazy.

It's in, I'm like, I can't imagine

delivering that line.

Right.

Like, there's a, you know, a body found in Central Park, and someone's like, yeah, yeah, it was during the marathon, you know, and

the

suspect was found here under the tree.

And then Jerry Orbach comes over and just goes, well, I guess you're not making it to the finished line today.

Exactly.

And you're just like,

exactly.

I cannot imagine having to deliver that line.

I would walk out.

I'd walk right on out of a set.

I'd be like, you know what?

I disagree.

I think you'd nail it.

Oh, my God.

I could, my like, what's it?

Suspension of disbelief or something.

I'm not, oh, I'm not good at that.

If I get like, if there's a line that I'm like, I can't do this, I like totally shut down as a, as a person.

I'm going to say.

that you're underestimating yourself because what I have learned about you, Renee, if I may, is that you're pretty good at at overriding nerves to get to level up.

You've done it over and over again.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, how do you get through the scary parts?

What do you do?

I really just don't take it seriously.

I just do not take it seriously.

Because when I take myself too seriously, I panic.

Yeah.

I panic because it's like.

oftentimes it's truly not about as much as i hate to say this it's truly not about me so

and no one fucking use that against you.

Okay, but you know what?

I'm going to just finish by saying this.

I've seen examples of you being like a very loving and supportive person in real time.

And I know that about you, and I heard that about you.

Thank you.

Can you advocate for yourself the same way?

Oh, absolutely fucking lovely.

Okay, great.

Oh, with a quickness.

With a quickness.

Yeah.

Because like, you know, kids are assholes.

People are assholes.

I was an asshole.

Like, I'm sure there were so many times I can recall that like people were assholes to me when I was growing up in school.

And I guarantee that there were 10,000 times that I was so mean to somebody else for no reason because I was pissed at myself or pissed off at somebody else.

So like, I don't know.

That's not to say that sometimes I'm not an asshole.

I totally am.

Yeah, but just like how you said earlier, you may want to identify as a nice person soon.

I know.

I might need to like tap into that like sort of like little like pigtail kind of infinity scarf girl again.

Oh my god, we're back to the infinity scarf.

Imagine that.

That is perfect full circle, just like the infinity scarf.

Totally.

I'm straight again.

You're straight again.

I'm straight again.

That's what I do to people.

Sorry, ladies.

I made Renee straight again.

Fuck.

I know.

Fuck.

Don't worry.

We'll get her back.

We'll get her out of the room.

We'll get her back.

Yeah.

Come out with the lesbians.

You'll be, you'll be, you'll be gay yourself.

I mean, I wish.

Oh my God, literally come out.

We go out every weekend.

Come out.

Where are you going this weekend?

Literally wherever.

Okay, that's not a place.

The problem is wherever.

The problem is I go out late.

No, well, yeah, but like you'll, you'll be so fine.

I promise.

What time do you get, leave the house?

Like, what time do you want to leave the house?

I'm asking you, what time does your night start?

Like a nine.

A nine.

Oh, that's not bad.

Yeah.

Because we'll get like dinner before because you need to eat if you're going to go out.

I can't.

I can't do two things.

It's either one, it's out or dinner.

I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

You know what?

I'm so sorry.

I can't go.

That's okay.

That's totally okay.

I'm so stressed.

I'm so tired.

Don't worry.

Don't worry.

And I know 9 means 9:30.

And then it's going to take some weeks to get our food.

Lesbians.

Yeah,

and then, and then my stomach is full.

And, you know, you need an anti-acid.

Yeah, and I'm going to have to take a Pepsit or something.

That's okay.

But have a good time and tell me how it goes.

100%.

I'll send you photos.

Renee, thank you so much for doing this with us over.

Thanks for having me.

This was a blast.

Thank you, Renee Rapp.

You were awesome.

And, you know, this is the part of the show where I just give little shout outs.

It's the polar plunge, if you will, where we go deeper.

So first of all, check out Flossy Baby on TikTok and probably other platforms.

She's hilarious, and she was at the beach when Renee fell in love.

So she's technically,

she's technically good luck.

And also, because we're talking about music, I just want to point out that our theme song, the Good Hang theme song, is written by the great Amy Miles.

Amy Miles is a singer-songwriter from New York City, my dear friend for over 25 years.

She's incredibly talented.

She wrote this for us, and so many of you want to hear the whole song.

And so,

we want you to go to Spotify.

Go to Spotify and check out Amy Miles and check out the Good Hang theme song.

You can get it there and show her some love because she's so talented and she's my friend and I love her.

Thank you, Amy.

Okay, thanks, everybody.

Never know how to end these.

Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang.

The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.

The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.

For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Aalaya Zanaires.

For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Burman.

Original music by Amy Miles.

Mama, Papa, mi corpo crece a un rino la armante.

Y la ropa que me comprerenor, me que dora muy pe queña muy promptly.

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