Selena Gomez

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

We are very excited about our guest today.

It is Selena Gomez,

the multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer who

is just a total delight.

And we're going to talk about a lot of fun things today.

We're going to talk about her incredible business and her success as the founder of Rare Beauty.

We're going to talk about Only Murders in the Building and working with legends and being one herself.

We're going to talk about Tejano music, her favorite kind and music that she listened to growing up.

And we're going to get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe.

All of that and more in this episode.

But, you know, we always have guests tell us about our guest.

We always talk well behind our guests' back and have someone special to talk about them.

And today we have,

well, one of my comedy legends,

a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know has totaled my car three times.

Martin Short.

Marty?

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Hi, baby.

Thank you for coming back.

I was just saying.

Hey, by the way, I loved our show.

Me too.

It was such a hit.

Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker.

where are you?

I'm in Toronto.

Oh, fantastic.

You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers and it was always cold, but is it warm there right now?

Do you know it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun, as you know?

Yeah.

And

it got very hot and very humid.

No, the late got to be 81.

I know you don't believe it.

That's good.

And I know you'd still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians.

Have you cold plunged since we talked no ma'am oh well i can tell

you can tell by the skin you can i can tell by your disposition very fiery

you know what by the way off okay

we're gonna talk to selena today who i've i don't think i've ever really met and really she's absolutely lovely i know and i I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back.

Who are you talking to, brother?

You.

Like, you're talking to me.

I'm talking about.

Oh, just me.

Yeah.

You're the person I'm talking to.

Oh, I think no, no.

This was just me calling you.

You could let me know when we're recording because if we're recording, I'll

recording right now.

What?

Okay.

And I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena because I remember when we were together, I said, oh, what's it like working with her?

And you were like, she's great.

Like, you said, she's just a doll.

And I remember thinking, oh, it's so good to hear because

that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true.

But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work.

Yeah.

I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro.

I had never met her the first day we shot,

and we had zoomed, and it was because of COVID.

You know,

you just have to zoom all the time.

And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, what is Selena Gomez going to be like?

What if she's a a nightmare?

What if she's mean to people?

It's

kind of rude.

Like I knew if she was late, 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, very good one season.

I don't care how big a success I'm not doing him.

And so right away, I met her in the makeup room and she smiled at me.

I went, ah, ah, we're fine.

Yeah.

And she's just been a dog.

We've really, really

become very, very close.

I just adore her.

I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just one of the great cool guys and funny and loose.

And she adores him.

And

I don't know.

I'm just thrilled for her happiness.

And I'm thrilled to get to work with her.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I bet I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, like what she's learned from working with you and Steve, but what have you learned from working with her?

Uh,

I knew everything, yeah.

It looks like nothing, looks like you're you've stopped learning.

I learned uh, uh, you can like order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed.

That's my egg,

caviar egg.

You never gave yourself permission to do that before.

I didn't, and I don't know what I was waiting for.

First of all, I don't like caviar, but secondly, it was I'm me.

And you know, that's a new book.

I'm me, Cohen.

I deserve this.

The actual working title is I is me.

I did a special once called I Martin Short Goes Hollywood.

A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world.

Nothing funny.

So funny.

Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena?

Like on set and stuff?

Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not.

Yeah.

She has a security person.

We have a security person, but what's amazing is if we shoot on the street,

which is

not often, but certainly happens a lot.

That doesn't make any sense.

Not often, but happens a lot.

Anyway,

you know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene.

They might be nine guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes, and then they walk away.

And you never, ever.

see those pictures.

When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day.

Oh, yeah.

And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or

mean, you know, that would

therefore

they could, you know, make more money from it.

So she's just been, that's been her life.

I don't think.

And she

does have security on the streets.

We all do, but, but.

She is so lovely with them and they've been in her life for so long.

And the only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to like this 14-year-old fan of hers.

And she kind of said, never do that.

Yeah.

Oh, she, there's, you can't falter.

Yeah.

You really

said, okay, I'll tell you what, I'll okay.

I'll tell you what's really bad about it.

You can't, there's no way to.

And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is, I mean,

she's the founder of a hugely successful business.

And, you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is.

I mean, she's a 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business.

We once compared each other's net worth,

and I told her what my net worth was.

And she went, oh, that's so cute.

That's just adorable.

You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other.

I went like this.

Wow.

And she went like this.

You know what?

It's amazing.

I've never never seen her.

I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers.

I've never seen her

overrun by it all,

collapsing from the pressure of it all.

And so a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much?

I also think another thing to ask her about are

her music.

You know, she's this massively successful singer-songwriter, and um, but I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough her real early influences, and what was the first song that she fell in love with?

I love that on set.

Is there singing when Jane Lynch was on?

There's always singing, yeah.

Um,

uh, Steve sometimes will bring his banjo.

Uh,

you know what I say about the banjo?

The The banjo makes people who played the jug say, really?

But anyway,

but no, there's not a lot of singing.

There's a lot of gossip.

It doesn't have to be true.

Yeah, just make it up.

You know what I heard.

Okay, I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences.

That's a good question, I think.

And I'm going to, and

I do want to talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally,

you know, we don't treat female-run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business.

And it is crushing everything else.

Tell you something.

When I look at not only what Celina's done, but what you've done

and what

Tina's done,

I find myself very proud of you ladies.

Well, that seems weird and patronizing.

Proud of us?

I am proud because.

Oh, you're a moody, my dad.

No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying you want cream in that coffee, but you're not.

This doesn't feel good.

I'm trying to be as kind

as a

condescending guy can be.

I love you so much.

Thank you.

I remember gossip, but I will repeat it when we're off.

Oh, it's from the SNL 50th.

Oh, God, I can't wait.

My phone is standing by.

Actually, what?

You have my cell.

Yeah.

You have my phone.

It's what?

Call you.

I don't like to talk on the phone.

Can you just text it to me?

No, no, no, no.

It's too long.

Oh, my God.

Kids, what is wrong with the phone?

I don't like talking on the phone.

A phone call feels

going to be the length of Shoah.

It was a brief little story.

To me, a

phone call is bad news.

Like, why am I on the phone?

No, no, no, no.

But it's this, and I again, oh my God, I so don't mean this condescendingly negative.

But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Cher doesn't like the phone?

Well, you know that I try to not

like anything that Cher doesn't like.

I know.

You know how I do.

I

would, you know what, just snap me.

Just Snapchat me.

Okay.

I'm not, you know what?

This is too boring.

I'm not giving you this information.

I can't.

Shit.

Okay.

I'm calling you.

I'm calling you right now.

I'm calling you right now.

Okay.

Hanging up so I can get this.

Okay.

Love you, Marty.

Bye.

Bye.

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Selena Gomez is here.

I kind of wanted to start today by saying, like,

I feel like so many people talk to you about the past.

They want to talk to you about things that happened, but I want to stay in the present.

Yes.

And talk about the future.

I know.

Because your present

is pretty amazing right now.

Thank you so much.

Congratulations on the past couple of years.

I appreciate it.

Yeah.

It's been wonderful.

I didn't want people, I genuinely appreciate you saying that because it's people are going to think I'm permanently anhedonic of just not enjoying anything in life.

Wait, what's that word?

Anhedonic, meaning unable to enjoy things.

wow and i really wanted

i really loved this era yeah if you will the past five years have been wonderful super creative for you yeah it's just been a gift that keeps giving from only murders to rare all of it's just I can't, I have to pinch myself sometimes.

We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created, and you're running a billion dollar business, $2 billion business.

You have a huge hit show on the air.

You have the love of your life.

You've got, you've like the past couple of years have felt like they've been this big,

joyous explosion of things.

And I always like to ask people: it's like, if this was, if your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter?

Oh.

Gosh,

can I pitch you some ideas?

Yes.

I would say something like, um, really simple but poetic, like

the best part yet.

Oh,

or

the best is yet to come.

The best is yet to come.

Or the best is here.

The best is here, babe.

Oh.

Or what is the best?

Let me tell you.

I'm 33 and feeling free or whatever.

But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur.

I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic, successful business that, in my opinion, like does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right.

When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty?

Did you have a house where people were doing that?

Did you?

Yeah, it's actually interesting because my Nana was all about self-care as far as taking good care of your skin.

But my mom was a makeup artist.

So yes

and she worked at Mac so she had like she's at the counter.

Yeah.

And I love it.

You know, like I think she, she would give me all of her products that she was done with and she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for like little things.

And it was really cool.

So

yeah, I remember playing with it a lot.

I wasn't.

allowed to wear it out and I'm glad considering the pictures I see now.

I just would, I would stick on on all the colors and it just was really fun for me to play with.

And now my sister is

got to be 13.

I know.

So weird, but she's awesome.

12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.

Very.

It's so weird.

Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out.

I'm just like,

and also I noticed that like 12, you're still kind of, you'll like dance around and be goofy and sometimes something happens

with with boys and girls.

It's not not gendered where like you just start to be conscious of being self-conscious and you just right i know well that's what i was going to say is my 12 versus her 12 it's it is a vast difference and it makes me worried and also encouraged because i have you know trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl she's very goofy still so i try to like pull that out of her yeah it's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible.

And also that just is at any age, basically, like no matter the person.

Like you want to,

it's the secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you.

Exactly.

That's the power, but it takes so long to learn.

That's true.

But she's been like, you know, when you were joy.

It was actually, I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed.

Yeah.

Because it is so factual how I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart.

And my sister watched it and she started crying.

And it's, um,

was that just crazy?

Yeah, you know, I think what if for people listening, I think you're referring to Inside Out.

Yeah.

And in the second one, are you talking about inside out too?

Yeah.

Yeah, there's that like kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in.

Yes.

And suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in.

And I have to say, same, no matter the age,

you're either feeling it in real time as a young person,

you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above.

Like you're just remembering that moment when your paint set,

you know, got some darker colors in it.

Definitely.

And it's,

I mean, it's part of growing up, but it's, it's brutal.

It is.

I just, but you, you, I mean, how it was everyone a part of that movie, if you ever seen anything.

I just think it's incredible.

And congratulations.

Thanks so much.

I'm going to make my children watch it.

Oh, my God.

Your children.

I know.

I want to be, I want to see our babies.

I know, I know.

I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait.

They do.

I also want to talk to you about like like typical day

of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs.

Yes.

And one would be enough.

And you have a lot of full-time jobs.

And, you know,

the great Martin Schwartz, I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests' back.

And he's, you know, he's such, so in love with you.

And he was just saying, like, I never see Selena like overwhelmed.

Like she doesn't do that thing, which is like, oh, I can't handle today, right?

Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once.

What's a typical day like for you?

Well, I love him so much.

That isn't always true, though.

I think it's, I, well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer balance, but it is.

When I, when I am doing only murders, it's, you know, it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's five days a week.

And I have like my entire love and attention is focused on that.

So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kind of have to have all of my focus there.

Yeah.

Does not mean that I am not answering emails.

Well, texts.

I don't like emails.

Oh my God.

Martin, Marty, I know you wanted to talk on the phone.

I was like, are you nuts?

I've, they've made, I've turned into Steve and Marty.

We'll get there, but I've turned into both of them somehow.

And you're talking on the sending faxes?

Yes.

And I don't

using a file of facts yeah i just i'm always we're if i have an idea or i smell something or i i feel something i'm super close with joyce who basically is my product go-to guru if i want to create something out of thin air she a thousand percent will go there and it could be a complete failure but so you can be like i i touched this lemon today how cool would it be to like have a lemon you know

do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever yeah i definitely will come up with things and what have you come up with that you're like that was good well when we first started the company um i'd say the blushes were the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was That was one of the most important, you know, moments for Rare.

And I think the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way and you can just feel it and smell it even.

And

I was able to go to Italy where, you know, we did

most of our products and it's, it's wild, you know, it's just, it's a whole process.

You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make.

I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have

easily accessible

products.

They're easy to open.

Yes.

Why was that important to you?

And what do you have to do to make that happen?

So I have

a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers, and that's due to my luxus.

So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication.

And

we somehow

inherently made the products easy to open.

And then we realized, wait, they kind of have to be that way.

And then we started to

make every product with the intention of

anybody who have dexterity problems.

And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not, because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products.

And

that's why we want to make them easy and accessible, because it's important to me and it always has been.

So even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use.

It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very, always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own

challenges, health challenges to inform your story and your product because it really makes people feel very seen.

Definitely.

And I think there's, you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses.

I don't know.

I've been through it, so I think I just know how it feels.

And I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now, you know.

Do we have the scent here?

May I?

Yes, please.

Look, so this is my fake food wall.

I really, really love this.

We have some of this at our home.

You do?

Yeah.

What kind of stuff do you hear?

Do you recognize?

Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple of days.

Well,

okay, basically, we have orange peels that look so real, and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash.

And then it's fake orange peels.

Yeah.

It's art.

It's art.

I love it.

Might be my

Beyoncé's choice.

So yes, Sandy's like, babe, we got to get these orange peels.

It's like they're the deal.

Like, okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away.

Yeah, multiple people have tried.

But

yeah, so can I show you?

Yes, please.

Basically, it's so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it.

And what are you calling this fragrance?

This is called rare aux de parfum.

I learned that.

But I just say it's my rare perfume.

So you can do it with, you know, your hands.

You can do it however it you feel like if you want to.

Oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes.

I can smell it right now.

So I know.

I just realized I overdid it.

No, no, no.

Let me smell.

Let me take it in.

It will definitely.

oh yeah it smells nice it'll settle i honestly can taste it i'm sorry how many times i sprayed it

i'm like it's in my mouth it smells it's you know the very funny bit which is like you know in the 80s you would like spray your clone and then you'd walk through it oh it's the gentle yes yes and um thing i think that's what i should have done okay This smells really good.

Everybody here.

We're waiting for it to calm down.

Everybody likes the smell in here.

It'll be here for a minute and then we light it on fire.

Yeah.

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Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's going to tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

AKA Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

So I got to talk to Marty Short.

Yeah.

And And he was so nice.

You know, he came on this podcast.

Here's your first hit.

He was like my first guest, him and Tina.

And

him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours too.

And I grew up loving them, but I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with.

And when you guys all started working together, and of course, the show is a big giant hit.

And I said,

you know, what's it like working with selena like she seems great but you you know you never

know

and every report back has been and always has been like you're such a pro my pawpaw used to say if you are on time you're already late

so that means i get to places 30 minutes before or I've had, my team has had to trick me because I show up so early, but I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed.

The feeling of being rushed is very stressful.

But then, on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty, and they really, you know, spearhead the whole, you know, they started the pyramid and everything happens.

And they just

are so professional.

They make everyone feel good.

They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene.

And that's, that's a huge inspiration to me.

And it, it just, they've been working for so long.

And if I'm tired and they're not sometimes, I'm like, whoa, okay, I can do this.

You know, they, they've really, um, I've been very lucky to work with people who are, you know, punctual.

And I, I just like it because I want everyone to

work and have an advanced.

I don't think people realize in our industry, like most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired.

But in our

industry, in the music industry, in the in

acting and in television and film, people sometimes just don't come on time.

And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you can't, you can't get away with it.

Yeah, I wonder why.

I don't, I, I have theories.

I think sometimes genuinely like real, like

the magnanimous theory is that real artists like are often, you know, in their own kind of creative space and like time isn't maybe their

time management maybe isn't their biggest skill.

Yeah.

That's a mag, that's a generous way to think about it.

And then the less generous way is, I think, to your point about anxiety, for some people,

there's just like a struggle.

to figure out the power dynamics.

And one way to get power is to make people wait.

It's my worst nightmare.

That's, it's my worst nightmare.

I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out.

It's so stressful.

That's also, I don't want to hurt, I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care like about me that way.

But I think it's disrespectful.

No, it's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to, but for me, it just, I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs the whole day at work.

If I made the crew wait even 30 minutes, I'd be like, I'm so sorry.

I know, like, there's, I mean, we all make mistakes, we're humans, but there are the few times that I've overslept or I

cannot tolerate the feeling

of

knowing people are waiting.

That's so nice to know that there's more people like that.

Are you an early to airport person?

No.

Oh,

I don't push it, but I do, I don't like being

in

an airport because it it like is as you can tell i'm a very like anxious person in a way but i

i don't know it gets me

yeah like overstimulating you want to you want to kind of like i want to keep walking right on there and then getting a little yeah like it i'm the opposite okay i like to get there with plenty of time okay go look at the gate

go look at the gate you have to see yeah i have to see the gate that's true make sure it's there make sure it's there look at the plane look at the gate like very like airport dad like that go up to the person and be like looks like we're taking up on time like i like to i like to kick the tires a little bit i love that and have plenty of time to just like be a little hyper vigilant but i understand you the the airport is a nightmare it's just stimulating it's overstimulating but i will say if i'm at the dallas airport I like to take my time.

Ooh, why?

What's it?

What's the Dallas airport?

First off, it's my home.

Second, it's just, I mean, what a burger.

They have the best restaurants.

It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport.

It's like you could get lost there.

I just want to spend time there.

Yes.

It's, yeah, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be overstimulating.

Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in.

Oh, that's clever.

I'm not.

always thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in,

the airport is a great place to get them in.

Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases?

You can do that.

There's automatic.

Oh, I've seen adults.

I've actually seen it.

I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something.

Riding the suitcase.

It is a grown.

Yes.

I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious.

And I don't mean to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no.

And you're kind of.

Yeah, that's so true.

Or anyone who brings their own pillow.

That's very stressful to me.

Adults with their own pillow.

Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand.

But if you don't.

Why are you going to have it?

Okay, so back to Marty.

So, Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting, I mean, you were, you have been,

this is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people, and it keeps getting recognized

by your peers and

lauded by critics.

And, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week.

But you have been funny for a very long time.

Oh, God.

Thank you.

That's a huge.

And you were very funny on Wizards.

Thank you.

And I'm like, what?

Have you seen it?

But you've had the chops for a long time.

You've had your

timing, which is so much, so much,

you know, is

such a big.

yeah.

It's wow, I can't even get this sentence out.

This is how bad my timing is, but it's true.

Your timing has always been a big thing.

Thank you.

I don't, I um,

it's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace, Friends, of course, you know, Channel 33 would be Frasier after.

Yeah,

who did you, who did you love?

Who are your comedic heroes growing up oh well i mean

that's different because i feel like when i have watched because i didn't watch like

stand-up it was actually introduced to me

when i was probably like 18 but just because i was this texas pumpkin that just didn't really know and i think the first one i ever watched was um

I believe it was,

see, I'm terrible.

Oh, Allie Wong when she was pregnant.

No way.

That was your first stand-up special.

Yeah.

And I

completely lost it.

So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll like, you know, Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians.

And it's actually, I have a whole appreciation.

And, you know, obviously for Steve and Marty knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty.

It's pretty inspiring.

I don't know how other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing

but i will say wizards was so fun because i i had the i had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was disney so it was fun yeah now this was a bit scarier yeah i would be intimidated to do a tv show with them i have to say they're really deeply funny and they're really good joke writers they're very good And their material, like they're always searching for like the better joke.

And they're really, they won't kind of rest until they get it it's true trust me i will be right in the middle of them figuring it out and i'm like it's funny guys it's funny guys we got it i know i mean still you know when i work with them or people that are kind of like trained in that world it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and

people you know the best comedians will just keep going but do you think yeah up until the very last minute that is something that i love though because it's so fun but i must have heard their bits a hundred times that i could finish them but so i just try to at a group hang i'm just listening and i'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like wow and it's the 20th time in person but it's actually so sweet

because they

They've been best friends for like 35 years.

Yeah, their relationship is really awesome.

to watch.

That's cute.

I love it.

And, you know, having truly, I looked up to both of them when I was growing up.

They, I can't believe that I know them.

Like, I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine.

Yeah.

Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?

Honestly, them and Meryl.

Yes.

I, I can't even imagine.

Like, my life is really weird sometimes because I, we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show.

We, we don't,

you know, we want to create a space where people can have fun.

So, that's genuinely, I believe, and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show because we just have fun and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want.

Yeah.

So, I feel like I lost track of what I was saying.

Well, I was saying, who can you believe you're friends with?

Meryl.

I mean, I mean, yes, but everyone, Dave Ein, I love Michael Creighton.

I love,

Richard Kind.

I'm sorry.

He's one of my favorite.

Bing Bong.

I know.

I'm too obsessed with your movie, but

every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this reaction because of his voice, because.

We never recorded together, but in Inside Out, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character.

And Richard is such a like

big

personality.

He's so great.

He's so great.

And it's, but it's very filled with a ton of pathos.

Like, you really feel big feelings.

Definitely.

Richard just makes me laugh.

He doesn't even try.

He's just one time.

He had to walk down a hall and open a door.

And he just like walked all the way down.

And we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock.

And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall.

And he goes, Oh, well, I didn't know that.

And I was like, Yes, you did.

We shot it like 15 times and then do you guys improvise like do you do like do you do takes freedom takes is what we call them

freedom takes we call them on parks and recreation we call them fun runs oh that's awesome but i like that sounds more fun freedom takes yeah freedom takes that's exactly what marty will say he'll be like okay well okay but let's do a freedom take and then and then we can have fun and do whatever and try things it's funny when it's so funny and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land oh i know

get ready for hit and then no one laughs and you're like

you're like i have a good idea i can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take and then you do it and everyone's like moving on yeah oh and it's happened i equally get it too because they they are they're very sweet to me but they'll they'll they'll let me know when a joke fails they're like that didn't work i was like okay

i really appreciate it they're pros they will not they will not say it's funny if if it's not yeah um

and okay we should take a lip balm break by the way sure i take a lip do you have your lip yeah i do oh

what kind of balm do you use

you don't know which ones well i mean i'm sponsored by lanes

i see

okay but i could be sponsored by rare view i'm not you're hilarious i want you to do what your contract says but um my contract as if i have a beauty contract

you know selena my beauty contracts it's hard to mean what do you mean it's hard to keep them straight.

So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one.

Okay.

Oh, these are great.

Okay, the reviews in.

They're great.

If you just let them in,

like it a lot.

So let's get to Marty's question.

Oh, good grief.

Marty had a question for you.

And it was a sweet one, I think, because, you know, he was saying, you know,

He was like, I don't think I talked to Selena enough about her music, you know?

And she's such a sweet.

I know.

It's such a cute thing to to say.

Um, and I mean, also, let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being, you know, comedic geniuses, are also excellent musicians.

That's true.

Um, but he, he, his question was very, you know, sweet, which is basically like, just like, hold on, let me get it right.

Okay, so he said, like, who were some of your early musical influences?

And what was the song that you fell in love with early?

Ooh, I know.

Well, it was interesting because my dad dad growing up was a DJ.

So I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hip-hop.

But my mom was

very

creative.

So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music.

When, you know, other things were happening, she'd kind of go with the energy.

And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music.

So I loved listening to all styles of music.

What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music?

How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it?

I think, well, Linda Ronstadt has an incredible album that is in Spanish.

And she,

to me, since the days of Selena Quintanilla, who kind of popped, you know, made it

like a pop version of it.

Yeah.

Linda's, I thought, was incredible too, because it's so musically

charged.

Yeah.

The instruments make everything sound so grand.

And then you feel

like

you want to move.

That's one of the best feelings.

And it just hearing her.

I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but I heard

it's so

she's definitely like a voice of my childhood as well.

Like her, my mom used to play Linda Rosa, and she's just an amazing singer.

And you've, you've recorded in Spanish too.

Yeah.

Does your voice change when you sing in a different language?

It does.

It's so weird.

I don't know why.

I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things.

And

I don't know why.

Yeah.

I can imagine because it's like,

I don't know, it's you're yourself, but you're playing a, just, you're just playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way.

And it's, it's so interesting to be singing a different language.

Yeah.

It's really funny.

No, it's really, it's really funny to me.

I don't really get it, but I like it.

Yeah.

And you are now living with a musician.

Yes.

Two musicians.

Yes.

What's it like in a house with two musicians?

Orange peels everywhere.

Well, there's orange peels to go around.

Yeah.

And I'd say he's obviously,

hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me,

musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know?

And I, and it's not because I'm playing down myself.

I'm really not.

I'm just, I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter.

And everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into.

I will listen to the same beats over and over and over.

That's what I imagine is that he's playing a lot of beats.

Yeah, he's creating things.

I would like to categorize myself

more as an actress.

So there isn't any

competition, I guess.

Not that there would be.

The last album I released was with Benny, and it was amazing

because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours and it was fun.

But

I think I really depend on him for, you know, any of the taste playlists, that kind of stuff.

Congrats on your engagement.

Thank you so much.

And I have to say, the other thing that I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just like being like, oh, cool.

Celina's trying this.

Your cooking show,

I love a cooking show, yeah, and I love cooking.

And it was for me, it was a new experience.

I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s.

I didn't really grow up,

you know.

Um, I had a working mom, we didn't have, you know,

we didn't, there wasn't a ton of, I didn't cook in the home when I was young, and I had my kids.

I was working a lot, and I didn't cook as much.

And so, I'm always drawn to

people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook.

You are too.

What kind of?

So the whole, this is what I love when people say, you are a chef because you had a cooking show.

No.

Right.

But you like.

The idea.

Yes.

The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how.

And I think

over a few seasons, it's safe to say, I still don't know how because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate.

And I think that was very challenging for me.

Okay.

But it was fun because I'd get it right, but it would take me five to seven hours to do it.

But what I liked about it is crazy.

You know, you're, you're basically, to your point, you're watching somebody learn and you're learning with them.

And it's a very nice gesture to be.

even behind the people watching.

Oh, yeah, that's actually what I do with Benny.

Benny feels,

I don't know if he'd like admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because

he tells me what he's doing.

And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, he like, you know what?

And he'll go, so we're going to, we're going to make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever.

See, I don't even know what the lingo.

Yeah.

He's like, I'm going to do this, chop the basil.

And then he'd like.

completely loses himself in cooking

and i love that i just think it's so endearing.

Well, I think cooking is a good way of speaking of anxiety for me.

It's like a place to put anxiety.

Yes.

Because it's very low risk, high reward.

If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like whatever, you can just order it or just tried.

But if it does, you feel really good about it.

You're very proud.

Yeah.

For sure.

I, I,

I enjoy cooking.

I really do.

I just find it very intimidating to do with Benny.

Yeah.

Because he has, yeah,

he has, he's so good.

He's just really good at it.

Yeah.

It's almost just too threatening.

So one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended.

He was like, why haven't you done that for me?

I'm like, because mine was frozen and then I added a sauce.

He does every day.

I'm dealing with the sauce.

I can't.

I can't.

That's all.

I can't talk to you right now.

But I try.

What is your meal that you like that you know to cook and you cook?

Oh, my nana's chicken and dumplings.

It's a very southern dish.

It's very good.

It's biscuits and

these chicken strip, like not just shredded chicken and a soup.

It's the best cozy weather.

It's so fun.

I love also, you know, to like zoom out, what was great about that show is, you know, it's just you enjoying food.

Yeah.

Because I love food.

You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy.

Yeah.

What is your, how has your relationship with food changed?

Uh, it, it hasn't necessarily changed.

It's broadened.

And

Benny has spoiled me a little bit

because he's,

again, not to talk about it, but all the time, but he would.

He would take a recipe and turn it into something even better.

So

it's, it's really funny.

I'm just like totally airing him out right now, but I think he

does this thing where he'll say,

I'll say, wow, this risotto is incredible.

And he'll taste it.

He'll say, well, you know, I would, um, I probably would have added this, but it's very good.

I just think if you put more and then, like, you see how this is set, and I just like to like stare at him because it's so cute.

He's constantly tweaking.

Yeah, he always, he always says he can make it better.

And it's not a lie.

It's just the most adorable thing.

He's going to be like,

it's a very sweet, like making food for someone is a really tender act.

It is.

It's really a loving act.

It's a very kind act.

And he, I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it.

But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him.

At least I can speak for me where you just kind of start thinking about like, what, what do I want to make tonight?

Okay.

And your brain, you know, your.

high v your your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something and then it can land on a list and it can think about timing and it can think and it like has to click clack away on something.

And it's if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful because

it's and it's also done.

There's something about finishing that thing.

It's a feeling of accomplishment.

Yeah.

And I totally get that.

It's the same feeling as me watching.

like TikToks of people cooking.

Those are my favorite.

Me too.

I could just, I just appreciate it so much.

And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world.

And it's just really,

yeah, that's, that's me.

That would be my feed for sure.

Do you go on TikTok?

Because that must be treacherous.

No, so, um,

I actually haven't been on TikTok.

That's great.

I'm sorry, TikTok, but no, it's okay.

All social media platforms, I'm sure, hate me at this point because I'm always like, I don't know.

It's very

300 million Instagram followers.

So

it's fine.

But I mean, it's fine.

Well, no, I'm just saying.

I get so like

word about that.

Because it doesn't, I don't, I don't understand it sometimes.

It's just a very interesting thing.

Because I, my experience with social media, I think, is

we may share a similarity, which is that I

feel it's like treacherous, but it can be to your point, like you can find ways to feel connection.

Definitely.

I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with, you know, just my community.

I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's

been a great resource for me to connect with people.

I have not been on social media for a few months now.

Even when I post, sometimes it's just to make sure it's like

on my post and feed, and then I don't look at anything.

Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people

happening and I like doing it my way.

Yeah.

You know, and I think if I were to get into

something and I'm sorry, I'm all over the place.

But and I also just want people to know, like, if it didn't come from me, it's

it's 90% false or anything.

I just love being able to say, this is where I am and I'm enjoying it.

And

I'm willing to share that part of my life and maybe it'll change but I enjoy it yeah and then the it leads me kind of to um one of our last questions which is basically energy giving it getting it like it sounds like for every person in their 30s yeah I would say it's one of the big lessons is figuring out okay if your 20s is like trying to figure out you know what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be then your 30s become like okay let's let's let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow.

Of course,

so how do you, how do you, what have you learned about you know, self-care and boundaries, and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life or you can share the things that you're happy about, and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you, but still keep I definitely don't read anything, I don't have comments enabled on my on my thing on my page, uh, just simply because I want it to be fun for me.

I don't need anything else other than just

me wanting to share that with the world.

Oh, sorry.

That's my ride, guys.

Wait, this is why Selena is such a pro, is that she just stopped talking during a siren.

You just like, you don't.

go looking for trouble.

I don't think it's healthy.

So I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary.

But have a healthy relationship with it.

I think it's important.

But yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because

it's not where I am.

And you know, you kind of like spoke about karma earlier.

What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back.

You give a lot of your time and you give a lot of your money.

And in many ways, you know, time can be

harder to give than money.

And you give both.

And it's, you have for a very long time.

Like you toured with UNICEF for many, many years.

You were an ambassador.

Rare Beauty gives a ton of money.

I was really impressed with what you guys do with.

And that's also the community because 1% of our products.

So it's, again, it's people contributing to helping

young people have access to mental health.

When you are kind of one-on-one dealing with someone, you've now been famous for a really long time and you have a lot of people people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you.

And that's energy, right?

Like they want to, they want to connect with you.

You feel that.

I know you've been like extremely loving and very supportive of people, but it's a lot to be approached sometimes with a lot of energy.

So, what do you say no to now that you didn't before?

Or how do you kind of like guard your own energy?

Your own

it's very difficult for me to say no no

to

people that I get to encounter.

If it's my Niana taking in her 14th picture of my outfit, I'm like, I can't do this.

Please stop.

I've got to go.

I got to make a dumpling.

I have to go make your dumpling.

But I don't think,

I don't know how to

answer that.

Well, it's, I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels, may I answer for you?

Well, let me, yeah, because I'm thinking.

Well, because I feel protective of you because as a woman who

is older and, you know, I think you're any woman in their 30s, I think, is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically

what is expensive for me with energy.

Basically, you start

protecting it.

It is.

And I think that'll happen more so

if I, when I have kids.

Yeah.

I'll probably put more boundaries up for, you know, the sake of the sanity of, you know, what that will look like.

I have no idea.

But I,

I just,

I feel like I owe a lot of people in the world

any sort of smile, hug.

you know, picture.

So it's very hard.

When I don't do it, I promise you it's because I'm, I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late.

Like that's usually which I don't

agree.

But like if I have to go somewhere, but in general, it's, it's, it's very, it's, it's a lot because I love doing it.

I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person.

It's so, it could get crazy in my head.

It can be a little crazy making and it's, and, and Marty said something really sweet, which is like, you know, when, when you guys shoot in New York,

you know, and there's whatever, you know, shooting in New York, just like living in New York, is this you're constantly on display and people will, you know, take photos.

And he said, like, Selena really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody.

Oh, yeah.

Like, you get very mom with her.

I get very, yeah.

I actually, that was probably

one of the

pictures from season two.

Someone said a vile word to someone else, and it was a photographer, thankfully not a

fan of the show, but

I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it.

So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like, yeah.

And he like, the other people started laughing and I was like, I don't even care.

I'm just so, I can't tolerate that kind of stuff.

But then they want that reaction.

I know they're baiting you, but you know, you're a human being.

I just

one finger in 33 years.

Like there's probably been a couple more.

We could probably find them.

It's fine.

Okay.

So I always ask my guests this, what, what stuff are you listening to right now, watching,

reading that makes you laugh?

Because it's not, it's a, it's, there's a, you've had in a beautiful couple of years and also, you know, in the midst of like, there's a lot of heaviness in the world, everybody is all, and we're all in different spaces and places.

And you've provided a lot of comedy for people who like really want to, like, your show provides that for a lot of people.

Who does that for you?

Who are you?

Um,

well,

it's more so

the experiences I have.

I love, I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because, you know, I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything.

So whenever something is spontaneous or

even just being on OnlyMurders, as long as we work, it's those are the joyous, you know, making someone laugh or.

or just having, you know, your partner laugh with you and you're watching a movie together.

What movies made you laugh lately?

Lately, Friendship.

Oh, yeah.

Tim Robin.

Are you Tim Robinson?

Yes.

Let's watch.

I love Tim Robinson.

It was so much.

Hilarious.

And very, it was so funny because a lot of like mixed emotions for people, but I was just like, this is just so funny because how, you know, broad it is.

Him and Paul Redder.

And also Tim Robinson is

like the best kind of insane.

I mean, it's like, where does he come out from?

My kids are obsessed with Tim Robbins.

Oh, that's awesome.

And have you watched his TV show?

No.

Oh, that's what, yeah, that's what I need to get on.

You're going to love it.

It's because I.

I think you should leave.

I think it's three seasons.

Okay.

It's so cool.

That's what I'll be doing now.

I love it.

I love it.

But I'm also a big, like lately, we've seen all the horror films.

So.

Okay, you like to be scared?

I loved weapons.

That was from that movie.

Yes.

Thank you.

I know.

I know.

I just don't like to be scared.

No, but I've heard it's amazing.

About 70% of the people in my life.

The fact that I have children running in, I was like, that's a hell no.

Yeah.

No way am I going to the movie?

Like, two tickets, please.

No

way.

I know.

No way.

No, I don't.

It's such a weird thing.

I do.

I do.

But I love things that are interesting mentally.

Not a lot of gore, but

you want like a intrigue,

suspenseful.

Yeah, give me the jump scares every now and then.

What's your favorite horror movie or one of your favorites?

What do you like?

I would say,

I don't know.

I really loved.

I'm trying to think, barbarian.

Oh, yeah.

The conjuring.

The first conjuring was really

one that I'll never forget because I listened to it.

You don't have to.

if you don't watch it, then you never have to listen to that.

That's true.

That's true.

So, I would say one of those for sure.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I think you should leave is so great.

I love it.

Highly recommend.

Watch one horror movie and then watch

six episodes.

Because that's how we do.

You know, I do have to watch something nice.

Yeah, to cleanse.

But no, I'm so, I have to.

And you're not the only person.

So I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at.

Well, thank you so much for coming.

I'm so happy that I got to do this.

Thank you so so much for having me.

It's a pleasure.

And truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way.

And can't wait for what's ahead.

I mean, future only, babe.

Yeah.

Oh, that's the name of the book.

Future only.

Future only, babe.

Babe.

Past is the past.

Robots.

Robots.

Robots.

Lip balm.

Tech, all of it.

Tech, all of it.

That's all.

That's also your next chapter.

Tech, tech.

All of it.

All of it.

And then just blank pages

and then you just have your grandmother's recipe

i love it thank you thank you so much it's so great

thank you so much selena wow you're just a total peach and it was really nice talking to you and for this polar plunge I just wanted in the spirit of what Selena does, right?

She just gives back and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it.

I just wanted to

say that I've been working a lot with Blood Cancer United, and they help people,

patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers, and September is childhood cancer month.

So look, you know, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love

and the people at blood cancer united definitely provide that among many other things resources information so

i don't know i just feel very moved by uh the way selena uses her platform and i in an attempt to do that today i would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can

It makes a big difference, especially in these times.

Thank you so much for listening to this episode.

Thank you, Selena, for coming.

And we'll see you soon.

You've been listening to Good Hang.

The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Burman, and me, Amy Poehler.

The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.

For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spilane, Kaya McMullen, and Aalaya Zanares.

For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles.