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Hello, everyone.

Welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

Oh, what a lovely guest we have today, Olivia Coleman, an incredible actress, just a dear, tender, beautiful person.

And we are going to talk about a lot of great things today.

We're going to talk about

whether or not it's important to fight in relationships.

We're going to talk about playing the queen.

We are going to talk about her new movie, The Roses, and all the hilarious people that she got to be in it with.

We're talking about so many good things today, but we always want to start these episodes by bringing in someone who knows our guest, who helps us

ease into our guest, who gives us a question to ask our guest.

And we got a big star today.

We have an actor who was in

Doctor Strange.

He was Sherlock.

He is in The Roses.

He is also famously in a Key and Peele sketch where they name football player names.

He is the one, the only Benedict Cumberbatch

from Oxford University.

Benedict, hello.

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Hey, Amy, how are you?

Hi, it's good to see you.

I don't think it can discuss on because I can't see.

Okay, you can just hear my voice.

I can see you now because I'm wearing these glasses.

Like this, you're a beautiful blonde blur, but like that, you're a very sharp blonde.

Now, what's your prescription?

Because are you new to glasses?

1.6, something like that.

I'm new to sort of giving into them.

Same.

I'm just, I like need them for reading, but not yet for driving.

It's so boring, isn't it?

And I'm not one of those people to get my eye.

I can't get them lazy.

It's very boring.

It's not boring because I feel like now that I can hide behind glasses, my life has changed.

And also, people think I'm smarter.

Anyway, hi, nice to see you.

Thank you for doing this.

You're so welcome.

Okay, I know you're in the middle of a giant press thing, and we are talking to Olivia.

Yeah, I'm a little hurt, but there we go.

I know.

Sorry, we couldn't get you, but

you signed a restraining order against me many years ago, and you don't let me get close to you.

That's true.

After the golden clips, it's right.

Okay, so.

Question for you, before we get to your question, we're asking, we like to do this thing when we have our guests on where we talk to people who know them and kind of talk well behind their back.

And the first thing I just wanted to say is that when I was doing some research on the film The Roses that you're promoting, and also you and Olivia, you guys haven't worked together as much as I assumed you would have.

We've never worked together.

Never.

No.

And we, you know, we've been friends for a long time and always said

we should work together.

And this is what was sort of born out of that conversation.

What kind of friend is Olivia?

Incredibly loyal, ridiculously good fun.

She facilitates naughtiness.

She's just sort of,

is it preternaturally?

Is that the phrase?

Upbeat?

I mean, it's kind of that's the one, if there's a critique of her, it's like, how the fuck is she doing this authentically?

I don't understand how this person can be so good at being just upbeat and just delightful.

And she literally, she, but this is veering into work rather than friendship, but it's the same with friendship.

But she can go into a work environment any moment that we were in the studio together and just you just see everyone, all the crew, everyone going, ah, everyone just gets lifted and brightened by her being around.

It feels that way when you watch her work and then also be herself.

Like, and I have, you know,

we kind of get this, we kind of came, or I came onto upon this theory when I was at SNL, which you were so brilliant on, is you have all these people come through

and you realize that usually the most talented people are the easiest to work with.

Yeah, I kind of, the older I get, that the more I just, that's sort of,

I can't be doing with people who are hard to work with.

I just, that's my one sort of camogeny kind of thing.

It shouldn't have to be hard.

Okay.

And then the other thing I wanted to ask you, and then we'll get to your question.

There's nothing like more satisfying than when somebody has a sense of humor about themselves.

Like it's such a sign of intelligence.

Like, and you and Olivia.

in this movie really go at each other.

Your characters really go at each other.

But do you feel like there's also just a way in in which Brits are allowed to kind of tease in a heartier and more sharp way than Americans?

I don't know.

Personally, I think

there's often a very barbed, cruel, and slightly pinched

aspect to British irony.

I think it could get a bit too much, to be honest.

As an English characteristic, the sharpness of it isn't something I find that pleasant.

It's very funny in this film.

I think also Americans, and this is obviously played up in the kind of cultural difference, one of the key differences between our version version and the original Michael Douglas Atlantic Turner and Daniel DeVito film is that they're the only English couple in an American world and that much later the culture clashes and misunderstandings to great effect, but they start roasting each other.

And actually, you as a culture, I think, have completely won-upped it.

You're right.

We have passed you in the mean Olympics.

You've gone the dance.

You're broken.

There's a good trade, I think, which evens us out, both in the gross-out humor and also the very sort of well-thought-through, ironic,

witty intellectual humour.

And I, I, I, you know, we play up to the difference, but I don't think there is so much of a difference anyway.

It's very interchangeable.

I agree.

I think it's very hard to pull off both physical comedy and really like sharp and sarcastic wit.

Both of those things are hard to do.

Well, yeah, I think if you do that, you'd do anything.

I grew up with two parents, both actors, my mum in particular, doing, you know, sort of end-of-the-peer kind of whoops, there go my Nicker Vickers, Nicker Vickers, Nickers Vicar

kind of farces.

And

to the point where I was like, Mum, you've got to do something else now.

I can't watch in an audience as you as a surly teenager, I can't watch you come into a room where your politician husband is having his pants pulled down because of something, and it looks like his male assistant is giving him a blowjob, and you turn to the audience and go,

and then walk off.

So, you know, having grown up with that kind of humor, if you can do comedy is my point, you can do anything.

I really do believe that.

And I'm not just.

Of course, I feel

like you don't have to tell me, babe, every single year at the Oscars,

everybody gets blanked and all the serious people get up and accept and accept and accept.

It's true.

And it's some hot bullshit

because comedy is not easy.

And I got to tell you, both you and Olivia can do both.

Oh, well, thank you.

Thank you.

That's very kind.

Okay.

So do you have any question for Olivia today?

Yeah.

Okay.

Is she wearing any under?

No.

Is there something she's afraid of?

Because I think she's one of the most fearless performers that I know.

I don't see her being afraid of anything, but I wonder if there is.

I wonder.

Oh, that's a great question.

Yeah.

And would she do it?

That's the other thing.

What are you most afraid of?

And

would you be any good at facing that fear?

Deep question.

I should be doing this interview.

Deep question.

Yes.

I mean, do you want to switch places here?

No, because everyone wants to hear you do the interview.

Okay.

Well, I know you are an hour or two of a 12-hour marathon.

Congratulations on the film.

Thank you so much for doing this.

I hope we get to see each other, not in full formal wear someday, but at an actual

thank you so much, Benedict.

Appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

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Hello, hello, hello, hello.

Okay, thank you for coming and being here.

Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was looking over

your life, like your timeline, because we're the same age.

I'm the same age.

You look much younger than me.

No, you, no, I don't.

No, you do, actually.

I'm 50.

Hold on.

I have to remember.

I was born in 71.

So I'm 50.

You're born in 71.

I'm 74.

So.

Yeah.

Well, so you're a little younger than me.

Well, I look older.

Americans just look better.

Do you think?

Yeah.

Well, British people seem smarter, so everything comes out.

So you'll find out.

That's not true.

And you'll find out

when you get a little closer.

Okay.

So, but we, but, you know, we kind of have some parallels because you met a lot of your friends and co-workers at Footlights.

Yeah.

Kind of, you know, you went to this very

important place that we Americans used to hear about.

Yes.

I wasn't actually at the university, but this was, this is something that gets regularly.

You were not at Cambridge.

I was in the town of Cambridge working as a cleaner.

And

very interesting.

So how did you get involved?

Well, I did, I was at the teacher training college for about a term, I think, and left.

And then no one questioned me because I had a bicycle and I looked the same as everyone else, the same age.

So I just would turn up to things.

And was there like an auditioning process to get into Footlights?

Yes.

And that's where I met my lovely friends who then basically were responsible for me getting work for years afterwards.

Yeah.

Because

I just feel very, it feels like a big lie if I guys at Cambridge.

This is already very British.

The distinction that you didn't go to school there is an important one for you.

Yeah, well, I feel like people who were there would go, No, you didn't.

And, you know,

I think it's so impressive to have worked so hard and be so clever to get there.

It would be a bit much if with my terrible A-levels I suggested that I got in.

So people that were not going there could go, could be in the, and could perform there.

Yes, I think I just, I didn't lie, but I just certainly didn't tell anyone that I had.

So it can be taken back.

You could be technically arrested for, yeah, at some point.

Maybe.

So you go and you, do you remember how you had to audition for?

I do remember going, I was in, there was a building called the Union Society, and

this is when I did have my student card, because I was actually at the teacher training thingy.

And

there was a sign, it was handwritten in biro on the audition arrow.

So I went along and I didn't know it was the footlights.

And

I know.

And please, I didn't know.

Yeah.

And they were boys looking bored, sitting behind a desk and said,

entertain us or sell something to us that looks like this isn't food i went okay

and so there was a disgusting ashtray which must have been there for years and i picked up a fag butt that sounds weird in american english right cigarette butt cigarette end

and um

and i tried to sell it and it wasn't going very well no one was laughing so i ate it

after desperation and they still didn't laugh they just looked absolutely horrified.

But they let me in because they thought, well,

she's game.

She's going to do some funny stuff.

What is it going to take to get those guys to laugh?

Yeah.

That is so, that's so, that's such a great story.

And then you got in and then you met all these, like, what, you know, I,

that, that time period in my life, I know, doing sketch and improv and all that stuff for a small number of people with friends in the hopes that someday you could do more of it.

Yeah.

Like, what do you remember of those times?

Well, I, because obviously, as you know, you all had to help write and everything.

I was terrible at the writing.

I just really enjoyed performing and being on stage and making people laugh is like the best, like crack, like the best.

It is.

I said it to me, it was the closest feeling to being a vampire.

Where you're just like, I'm becoming a vampire.

Yeah.

Oh, I've got ghostbunks.

I totally understand.

You're like, look what I've done.

Like Just this weird, powerful, in-control flush of excitement.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so desperate to get that back.

And

your whole life is chasing it again.

Yeah.

What was the first, you remember the feeling of like the first big laugh, you know, where you, where you did something and you watched people laugh at you and you thought, oh, I love this feeling.

I don't know if I can remember that.

No.

Were you in plays as a kid?

I did my first ever school play when I was 16.

And was the prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

So not a comedy, but

I just remember people clapping at the end.

And I'd always been so rubbish at school.

I'd never, I was sort of, oh, I couldn't wait for it to finish.

And it doesn't really, I'd look out the window and found it really hard to concentrate.

And then suddenly

I committed to learning all of these lines.

Suddenly, I, why couldn't I learn other stuff that I would do that?

And then when they clapped, that was the moment when I went,

I love it.

It was like, it was like electricity coming on your fingertips.

Okay, get off, get off.

No.

Loved it.

Yeah.

I mean, do you consider yourself a,

were you an extroverted kid?

Like, were you, were you, are people

not surprised that you ended up being an actor?

Or?

I don't know.

I think it's quite, I think as I've got older, I've got more and more shy in a way.

And I think people knowing your face and you not knowing their face

puts you in a, you know,

it's

not an equal footing.

I really relate to what you're saying about, even though I think people might think that it's funny that both of us are saying this, but getting a little shyer as you get older.

Totally.

I really relate to that.

Yeah.

I mean, what do you think that is?

I think it is,

well, as, you know, as I said, that it's...

It's an unequal thing.

So I love, I don't know if you ever go to a country where maybe your shows aren't seen.

Oh, yes.

It's called the UK.

That's not true.

But, you know, if you can walk, feel like you can walk down the street and no one has done a double take or a nudge or a secret photo.

Yeah.

It feels amazing.

Yes.

I love that.

Yeah.

Being observed is weird because especially it sounds like you're like, you, you're, you're, you are an observer.

You like to observe people.

So when you're being observed, it's a strange feeling.

Yeah, I find it discomforting.

And it means I don't want to go anywhere with my children.

I don't want people to, you know, see who they are.

Yeah.

Because it's their decision

to do what they want to do with their lives.

And kids don't like, it doesn't even, you don't even have to be an actor.

Kids just don't like sharing their parents with people.

Yeah, I do understand that.

Yeah, I know.

And it's, it's hard to explain to them that that is your work, but it is, it is, it's a universal feeling.

Like, kids want their parents when they want them.

Mine, yeah.

Yeah.

And

I've been lucky compared to many people in our industry i i haven't had to be away from home that much yeah and uh and my youngest so in recent years i've had to be about way a bit more and she hates it

i sort of love it that she hates it but yeah

she's still missing you yeah

how old is your youngest yeah uh youngest is 10.

okay okay right so you still have yeah some sweetness yeah yeah yeah and really she's really lovely they're all lovely i know does anyone any of them want to to be an actor?

No, furious.

Yeah.

And livid with them.

Yeah.

You know, I'm like, get up there and earn some money for this family.

Just

they laugh at me because, yeah,

um, it's a bit, you know, ab fab.

And my big boy wants to be a physicist.

Wow.

I mean, just incredible.

He can also, that's the only way he can rebel.

I can't believe you and your star.

Totally.

He goes,

no one says, oh, why can't you be a rock star?

I do.

They're all so sensible.

Yeah.

Physicist is

that smart.

I mean, who employs physicists

these days?

No one.

No one.

See?

With long hair, forget it.

He's never going to get through the door.

Okay, so you're at Footlights.

You're making all these friends.

You're deciding.

You know, what I love about your career and you is that

you are the ultimate, to me, proof that when someone can do comedy really well, they can do anything.

And I guess you came into the business doing comedy.

When was it?

Was it Tyrannosaur that switched?

Was that,

can you talk about that film and getting cast in that?

Yeah.

So comedy, I'd never intended.

I just found a place there and I really loved it.

And

I'd always imagined maybe

from that first play at school, I thought maybe I could be an actor, but you didn't dare say it out loud.

And

then it felt like there were two lists of actors: there's funny ones, not funny ones, and you can't cross over.

It's absolutely not allowed.

And it takes someone to know to really put their neck on the line to go, no, I would like them to do that.

So it was Paddy Considine I met when we were doing Hot Fuzz.

Yes.

I was so excited to meet him.

And I opened the door and grinned at him.

Hello.

And he decided in that moment, oh, she's, she'd be right for my film.

Wow.

I know.

So always open open the door, people always be nice.

You never know.

Wow.

And it was a major, it totally changed the trajectory.

It's a word I find hard to do, um, of my career.

Because it went to Sundance and it was like this, you know, very lauded performance.

And people saw this version of you, basically, and they said, Oh, we can, I know, it's very,

it's, isn't it interesting how life is just

the smallest changes and moves in your life

and you're on another track.

Yeah, totally.

And so often having to wait for someone else to

let that happen for you, which is frustrating.

But I'm so grateful to Paddy.

Do you ever think to yourself, like, I'm in the mood right now to do something heavier.

I'm in the mood right now to do something lighter.

Do you think about that when you're picking stuff?

You know, like, I don't know if I might do subconsciously.

I always used to rely very much on gut feeling.

Yeah.

You know,

and I feel a bit like I've lost that ability.

I've I've gone a little bit, I don't know if that happens as well as we get older, but I sometimes think, I think I've, I can't tell now.

Yeah,

my agent has a great litmus test.

So if you read it and you're unsure

if your nemesis gets the part, are you going to want to, you know, pull your hair out?

That's so funny.

I think about that too.

If I saw it a year later, like a trailer for it, and I was jealous.

Yeah.

If I thought I saw that.

That's the best way to go, okay, I can let this go or now I have to fight for it.

Yeah, yeah.

But,

but

sorry, I didn't answer your question at all, did I?

Did I go somewhere else?

Well,

why I ask is because you've been in all of my favorite things.

When we look at all of the stuff that you've been in, your career is incredible, Olivia.

Like, you have done, okay, but I want to stay with comedy for a second just because I feel like, and I kind of made a joke about it earlier, but there is this thing with people our age where the US and UK were

so connected in so many ways, but had completely different comedic experiences.

There were only a few shows, in my opinion, that came over to us.

Yeah.

Like, it wasn't until I was in my 20s and 30s that I learned about all this great British comedy that I never got to see.

Okay.

And I,

you know,

you know, we got kind of the big ones, right?

Growing like Monty Python and, you know, AbFab and stuff like that.

But then there was this huge amount of shows that we never saw that you had to kind of search and find out and watch on, you know, VHS and like trade with your friends.

Yeah.

Did you have shows here in the States that you didn't know about or didn't watch that you had to kind of catch up and know about once you started becoming weirdly sort of SNL, which is a, you know,

it's like a little comedy heaven.

I didn't know about that for so long.

Yeah.

Because I don't think it was shown on television.

It was not.

Okay, no.

No.

And it was only funny friends who were obsessed with it and went, well,

what is it?

And then started to look at it.

Because this is pre-internet.

Like, we couldn't Google anything.

We didn't have this high-tech stuff that I have.

I have a laptop on my

thing you want to know.

You want to know the recipe to something?

But yeah, but you couldn't clip anything.

You couldn't watch anything.

So I remember watching like Alan Partridge and all this stuff on VHS, but 10 years after it was on.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's the same.

We got, and we still have, which I love.

Um, every weekday morning on channel four, they have starts with Cheers, um, then King of Queens, then Everybody Love Raymond, then Friends.

Uh, no, sorry, Fraser.

Same four shows.

Yeah,

I love it.

Oh, my God, cheers.

Oh, my God.

Cheers.

How good is that show?

It was so good.

Ted Jansen at his hottest best.

And the, and, and, um, Sam and Diane, the,

I mean, actually, there's a, we'll get to your film, The Roses, but there's a lot of that kind of, like that kind of back and forth reparte of, I love you, I hate you, I love you.

Yeah.

So satisfying.

So good.

And when they kissed for the first time, millions watched.

I know.

And, and also, that lovely Woody.

I loved Woody.

And he, and, and, and Woody, who had the hardest job in the world because he took over for coach.

Oh, yes, of course.

Yes, who was an amazing character.

Beloved.

Sadly passed away year one or two, and you thought, well, they're just

in Woody

who just crushes it.

And then

the pilot of cheers, if you've ever read, is just a perfectly written pilot.

And me and Mike Scher, the creator of Parks and Rec, used to talk about it all the time because you have like seven characters you have to

service really fast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's such a good pilot.

I love that job.

Oh my God, I've got to watch the pilot.

I'm going to find it.

It's so good.

And the ending of cheers.

Yeah.

Okay.

Everyone loves Raymond, Frazier.

And what was the other one?

King of Queens.

King of Queens.

And you're like, what is this Queens?

What do I need to know about that?

Queens, I've got no idea what that is.

But he is king of it.

Yeah.

There were a few things that came over to us, but not a lot.

You know, it took me, and Sketch was one.

Like, I didn't know about French and Saunders until 10 years after, you know, then everyone, same, like funny people.

And I was meeting funny people and they weren't talking about shows that I

had to research.

But I just think it's very interesting because that we're, we are, we are so alike, but our comedy was very specific and different.

We had the premiere last night in New York with the Roses, and then we've got London premiere on Thursday.

And lots of, I wonder if audiences will laugh at different things.

And I feel like that's not true anymore.

I agree.

Yeah.

I don't think that's true.

No, I think we all totally understand each other and we'll find the same shit funny.

We were laughing.

We were, we, when we were preparing for this interview, we were saying, like, how,

you know, it is true.

We believe that the Brits are smarter.

They just sound smarter.

Yeah.

They do.

That's not true.

I know.

And you know what taught us?

Love Island.

I've said that's the first time I've ever been grateful to Love Island.

They taught us that.

Because I can see people look disappointed when I open my mouth and I go, oh, see, you think I'm clever.

I'm really not.

But thank God Love Island is.

Yeah, Love Island really leveled the playing field.

We were like, I see.

Okay, we're all the same.

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But a show that I've since now seen that I didn't know at the time was Bruiser.

Which was like your

well, I've seen clips of Bruiser.

Okay.

But Bruiser was like your first sketch show.

First ever job.

My first job.

First ever job.

Yeah.

And that was, how old were you?

What year?

It was my last year of drama school.

I have a weird thing where I can't do dates.

Same.

So I know I did my A-levels in 1992 because I had to say it so often.

Yeah.

But beyond that, I'm not entirely sure what happened.

So in the 90s,

Bruiser comes out.

Yes.

And it's you and David and David Mitchell, Rob Webb, Martin Freeman.

Yeah, that's right.

Charlotte Hudson.

And that's just like sketches and you all look like babies and you're all doing like.

Yeah.

I haven't seen it.

I bet lots of it's terrible.

Well, sketches

80% bat.

Don't they?

Like the batting averages.

Yeah, yeah.

You have just like hope for a couple of winners.

Mitch and Webb have just done a new sketch show.

And sketch.

shows just haven't happened for a long time.

I know.

I know.

I know.

I think about that a lot.

I mean, for me, the best last sketcho other than SNL that I've seen is Key and Peel.

Did you watch Key and Peel?

My boys were talking about that.

I think that the Brits don't know about Key and Peel as much, but that was a big show over here.

And they were just like deeply funny and good.

Like they were really trying to find that.

Okay.

And so then,

okay, but then

there's this, there's all this stuff you do between,

you know, broadchurch, basically.

There's all this stuff because that broad church for us is really, I think, when we really start to get to know you, I remember you from your little moment in the office because I the UK office because I was obsessed with the UK office and the and the

um the picture moment with David and Jess and with Ricky.

But we get to really know you and you and David at the same time.

Oh, yeah, lovely DT.

Lovely.

Tell me about your relationship.

You guys are buddies.

Oh, I love David Townsend.

I know.

He seems so

lovely.

He's so nice.

You love him.

Tell me why he's so great.

He

is,

there's nothing assholey about him at all.

And he, we simply just would sit and talk about, we'd do farts in the police car and he'd go, oh, Jesus Christ, call him.

And

he was just like a buddy and we'd tell stories and he wanted to be at home with his wife and family.

And I wanted to be at home.

Yes.

And isn't it the best when you work with people who want to be at home?

Yeah.

Love it.

Let's get this done.

Get it done early enough.

Lady, get home.

Get the fuck off back home.

And

also, he was so, always knew his lines was always on it, always just beautiful at his fingertips.

And then,

you know, when the AD comes to knock on the door, I could, we both, we had a two, two-way, it's not as rude as it sounds, you know, that van with, and also our loos were back to back.

And I'm going to go, David, are you in there?

Go, stop listening to me.

I'm doing the same as you.

But when the AD would come and knock on door and say it's time, we would try and race each other.

He would always, didn't want to delay anyone.

He was never late.

Oh, my favourite.

Love.

And

just gorgeous.

Everybody loved him, but just real.

It proves my point, Olivia.

I've said before, I find that for the most part, with the exception of a few eccentric, original performers, the most talented people are often the most professional like they're the easiest to be pleased and i've been so lucky to work with two of my gods meryl streep and anthony hopkins they never would have kept anyone waiting yes and then you learn from that you go see no and they set such a tone yes and they are polite to everyone they know everyone's name they know their job they know their lines they're always on time i mean i have a in any profession i do have a theory that like people that are acting out of fear or are afraid that this is their last good idea or that, you know, it, a lot of people act out for a lot of reasons.

Yeah.

But.

And I do understand that.

I do too.

And as I get older, also people just work differently.

But the professional part, when you meet your hero and they also are that way, it's just the best.

It's so important.

Yeah.

And just a friend recently did a show and I don't want to sort of.

There are some of the younger people

who I don't know where it comes from, but

if they have a little bit of a cold, they won't do the show.

Oh, wow.

And I don't understand.

Right.

When we were told.

This is very Gen X of us.

You know, that's it.

I'm aware that I'm doing that.

Same, which is the way in particular.

I think it's their fault, but someone has told them wrong.

Well.

Okay, let's get into this because

I'm going to be can't false.

No, I agree.

And I'm trying to work on it because here's the two things.

I think that we were sold a productivity myth.

Yeah.

Right.

Like hustle, hustle, hustle.

Yeah.

And it's really ingrained in us.

Like there's no way I would have ever called in sick.

I mean, I remember doing a scene with Alec Baldwin for a movie and I had like 104 temperature and I had, we had to cry.

And I was like,

I was on another planet and he was like,

wherever you are, stay there.

Perfect.

And I was like, I am in, I'm in a fever dream.

I have 104 temperature.

And I remember just being completely, but never in a million years, ever would I.

In retrospect, potentially maybe Matt was a data not potentially

yeah potentially not a good choice yeah so I kind of understand that this idea of like maybe take care of yourself a Gen Xers a little bit more than you did and not pressure everybody to hustle but perhaps we've overcorrected I think there's a happy medium isn't there agree but a little bit of a of a tickle in in the background and you go I don't think I can that's I don't think that's okay.

Yeah.

I've had pneumonia twice and never missed a day of work while filming.

Okay.

But also potentially stupid.

You've had pneumonia while filming.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're my kind of gal.

Thank you.

I never missed one day of work on Parks and Rec.

I did 120 shows.

Fuck yeah.

And that's weird.

And people think that's a weird statistic because they're like, well, okay.

Maybe, maybe not something to brag about.

And I'm like, is it not?

I think it is.

I agree.

But perhaps I was setting an example that was, you know there's there's there's a both are true both are true but i know what you mean i love i just love a pro i love a nice pro yeah

because a working environment should be

it's just hard enough to just do life it's hard enough to do life yeah without somebody being difficult and yeah and we're lucky to have the work beyond you know don't yeah don't be sort of overly cocky with that yes agree And Broadchurch,

it makes sense to me that you and David loved each other because you can really feel it in the show.

Like it's just, you feel like true partners in that show.

Yeah.

And even though in the show, you're getting to be partners.

But there was such a

feeling of mutual respect on that.

It was so good.

And what was it like to have that blow up?

It was a huge hit.

Yes, that was very...

Odd.

Because

no one knew who had done it.

That was what they wanted.

Although, when I went for my first audition, my sort of meet with the producers, and I said, who did it?

And they told me.

And I went, oh, and cried.

And they went, that's great.

That's why you got.

And then

on the way home, at 20 minutes after I'd left, they phoned and went,

can you pretend that we didn't tell you?

We've realized we don't want anyone to know.

I went, oh, okay.

So I had to lie.

And David was so craft.

One day, his agent accidentally let slip right near the end of months of filming and he flew onto my van and went you didn't tell me and i knew what he meant unless couldn't look at him oh because he didn't know he didn't know no one knew oh they'd accidentally told me who knew what a burden told me you had faces you know all the um 10 by 8 faces in the makeup van and everyone was putting a sticker on who they thought it was and i was also going is it might be me uh am i trying to

terrible at lying wow so you you were reading the scripts in real time basically and oh that's very fun it was really fun.

And what a great way to be able to, and kind of what a bummer that you knew because you, we would have been, you know, like everyone else, but you had that secret.

Yeah.

Oh, that's fun.

It was fun.

Oh, that's good.

But David, yeah, I said, you can't believe you didn't tell me.

And you're like, I'm a pro, babe.

Yeah, I'm a pro.

And also, I should have lied so much, I'd almost forgotten that I knew.

Do you think you would be good?

Um, convincing uh,

are you a good liar?

Like, do you think you'd be, uh, yeah, like without a script?

I'm appalling.

Yeah.

They can.

I don't know.

I think I'm okay.

Like, I think sometimes, could I convince a jury?

Like, if I.

Oh, wow.

That's an excellent question.

Could you convince a jury?

I feel like I could convince a jury.

That you didn't do it.

Yes.

I feel like.

As long as my kids weren't in the jury, I think I'd be fine.

Your kids would know.

They go, you totally did it.

Do you have a tell when you lie?

I'm sure I do too.

I'd like someone to tell me what it is so I can work on it.

But I think I overexplain.

I think I say too many things.

Oh, you know, when you watch Traitors?

Yes.

Oh, I love it when I love it when they ask someone something and they go, what?

They have to

stalling.

Yeah, and they do it subconsciously.

It's amazing.

Have you ever watched any of those body language things where they show, you know, if you look up to the right or

one's recalling information, one's lying.

Yes.

Yeah, I can't remember what you're talking about.

Or if you touch your face or like your neck, I know.

If you touch your neck, it's because you're about to say a lie, all these kinds of

small things.

I love when people stall

and you go,

what did you say?

Yeah,

I'm so sorry.

What?

Didn't hear you?

But I also get sweaty when you have to play those games.

Like, have you ever played that game, Mafia?

Oh, yeah.

I don't like that game.

I love it.

You love it.

I love it.

Okay, because

we play it almost every night on holiday.

And we've discovered as well, any parents that get killed,

it's always their kids that have done it.

Always.

Or spouse.

Yep.

And

one family that we go on holiday with every year, their kids are terrifying at it.

Really good.

They are so good.

And the youngest one.

got so cross with everyone accusing her that we went, of course, she's not.

She was overexplaining.

She's doing what you say.

Just, I'm not.

I literally, I had to move because really angry.

And she's only 13.

She was, we were, oh, God, no, she's probably not.

Just maybe don't give her a chance.

She was absolutely killing everyone.

She was doing that at night when everyone had their eyes closed.

Amazing.

Yeah.

I get very stressed.

I get very giggly when I get accused and very stressed.

And

also,

I feel like I maybe, I feel like I act the same when I'm the murderer or not, but I must not.

But I don't think I would pass a lie detector test.

Let me just say that.

I don't think I would.

I would, my heart would beat.

Yeah.

But I think I could, I could win over a jury.

Yeah.

I think I would say, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

why would I want to kill my spouse

or whatever?

And I'd be able to cry.

You're a good crier.

And you love to cry.

I do.

It's

one of my great skills.

Well, in everyday life, I don't cry so much.

You have tricks for crying?

No, if it's sad, I'll cry.

Yeah.

If the script is sad.

So Broadchurch,

that first day,

it was filmed chronologically, which was just a gift.

Amazing.

But

they were saying, no, she's a police officer.

She's probably a little harder than that one.

Absolutely.

There's no way.

I'm sorry.

I can't.

This is a dead channel.

And so, making me, so

if it's good script, it's impossible not to.

But in your life, you're not the biggest crier?

Really?

Oh, in the crown as well, there was this, because the queen famously

was able to be there for other people and not cry.

And I couldn't do it.

So there's a scene where Helena Bonham Carter is telling me about Abervan, which is...

was a terrible, terrible thing that happened.

Terrible.

And I couldn't

hear her.

Yeah, it's beautiful, beautifully done.

I couldn't hear her talking about it without crying.

Yes.

And they kept going, okay, no.

No crying.

I can't.

So the sound department gave me an earpiece and I listened to the shipping forecast.

So

in my ear, I was hearing South Atsurah, North Atsurah, we're the third middling.

And I was just listening to that and zoning out while Helena looked at her.

I can't believe our first scene together.

And you're not actually listening to me.

Wow.

And that's really, that's a good tip, though.

That's a great tip.

Listen to something else.

Don't listen to your active face.

I mean, I always say half of acting is like just keeping your face still, which is almost impossible for me to do.

But

Brotox helps enormously back.

But the way in which everyone just projects everything on your still face.

Yeah.

You and Helena in the crown are, I mean, so wonderful.

And I know you've, you're really good friends.

I know.

Yeah.

And did you meet on that?

Yeah, yeah, we never were together before.

No.

I think we'd met once at a do

and I'd sort of curtsied to her and

and yeah, she's just she's just lovely.

I mean, I know people have asked about meeting the queen and and playing the queen, but separate from the actual queen, the character of that woman

is so interesting.

I know, fascinating.

You know, forget, you know, I know you're playing

a version of

real person and you're playing a real person, but just

the legacy of that,

just one, just the idea of one life spanning that much.

Yeah.

It's so amazing.

I totally agree.

It's an extraordinary,

literally, well, most people, there's someone else in the world who has a similar experience.

No one.

No one.

That's one person standing on their own.

I know.

Sitting every week to various prime ministers, you know, listening to them, having the

hearing everything

and just having to keep it together.

It's such a

practice in restraint, just a life of restraint.

And also, to your point, being around while everyone else comes and goes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Being the constant.

While, I mean, I loved the way that that show took on the width and breadth of that life.

The crown.

That person is the crown.

And the way you take it from Claire, that you take over that moment when you show up in seasons two, three, four?

Three and four.

Yeah.

When you show up and we think, oh, my Olivia is now the queen.

Like, it's exhilarating.

Terrifying following on from Claire.

Was it?

Yeah, yeah, because I loved it.

It was so highly advertised that I didn't want to like it.

Yeah, that sort of thing.

Totally.

Yeah, everyone likes it.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, thanks.

And then I accidentally watched it with one eye open and went, oh, no, I love it.

Love Claire.

So good.

Couldn't stop watching her.

And so then, yeah,

got a call to that, that.

They would like to meet you for, I think my agent said,

for the queen.

And I thought that was the play.

And oh, and she said, no, no, I didn't mean that.

I didn't mean that.

I meant the crown.

And I, and I went, oh my God, yeah, fuck you.

Absolutely.

Yes, please.

And she said, I think you're not meant to say that yet.

You meant to just waste some

sunglasses.

Yeah, trying to cool.

I was such a huge fan of it.

Yes, yes.

And also, it came at the point where I just spent all my tax money.

So

really handy.

And

you talk to Claire?

Did you two talk about like handing off the tort?

So someone said, it might be a good idea if you want to.

We can give you Claire's number.

And so I did speak to Claire and said, really, honestly, truthfully, it's a long commitment, long job.

And she went, I've absolutely fucking loved it.

Yeah.

It's a happy job.

And everyone's nice.

Yes.

That's great.

I mean, there is a whisper network among actresses, especially, I think, when you're going to try to take a job and you're lucky enough to have the choice to take a job where you call other people to say,

should I, is this okay?

I love that code as well.

And amongst us, we do go, I,

or there's a, the word tricky.

It can be tricky.

I got on quite well with them, but I know that some other people did, so sort of politely letting you know, maybe this isn't a simple decision.

Another code is like, well, the hours can be kind of long, which is a code for the directors a little unorganized.

Yeah.

Like I think that's.

And the scripts aren't ready.

Yeah.

And the scripts can come in a little late.

And I cried a few times, but

as far as the job, yeah.

And

Helena and you, I just, I just want to stay there for one second because

I love watching you work with.

everyone but I especially love watching you work with other

super talented women And you've worked with a lot of really great women.

Been really lucky.

Yeah.

You just who you, when you meet each other on screen.

I love women.

Me too.

I mean, it's honestly hard to work with men.

I'm so sorry.

I'm sure it was easy with Benedict, but like, I mean, we have to, but fuck.

I know.

It's hard.

Bess, I'm not just not as good.

Just not as good.

But I do too.

I love working with women.

And I can tell you do too.

Yeah.

Who are some women that you've worked with that you just went, Helena, I'm sure is one, but like

who that you just worked with and you said, oh, I'm going to have the best time.

I mean, Jodie Whitaker on Broadchurch, Helena on the Crown, and Marion, who played the Queen Mother on the Crown.

Just loved her.

Loved her.

Almost, I always take a good girlfriend with me from almost every job.

What do you mean?

Like who?

Well, Heli.

Jodi is now godmother to my youngest.

We had our youngest at the same time while on Broadchurch.

And

Phoebe, Phoebe Willabridge,

and Amy Morgan, who you probably won't have heard of, but I think she's extraordinary.

And we went doing a play.

And so there's always one.

And on the roses, there's Zoe, Sunita.

Yes.

I mean, Alison.

I know.

Jenny.

Kate McKinnon.

We have Kate coming in, and Kate is such a...

Is she coming in?

She's coming to me to stay while I'm here.

It is.

Are you lying?

I'm I'm not lying, but you're not, you're going to be, you're not going to be here.

We're not going to make you wait for Kate because we have a little bit of a, you know, you got to get on that plane.

But you can leave.

You want to leave a note for her?

Yeah, she's coming in today.

Okay.

And

she's so, isn't she such a wild, interesting, eccentric bird?

She came.

So we had a girls' trip to where I live in the countryside in England while we were filming.

And Kate came along.

She's the most fun

grown-up you've ever met.

My daughter couldn't believe her luck.

yes she is fun she's fun and she played she was a I think

a pea hen or something for about three hours

fucking hell

amazing

my little girls go

Phoebe fleabag huge another huge she

and what I mean she's an amazing woman and she

no she's brilliant at what she does and she works hard and she's really driven and kind to everybody and yeah, just another fucking fantastic woman.

Yeah.

And that first episode of the second season of Fleabag, which was with Andrew Scott and sitting around the dining, that restaurant table

felt like the most brilliant play.

Yes.

And just that whole episode, one dinner scene,

I just love the way she writes.

Yeah.

And she gives everybody so many good jokes.

You have also so many good jokes in that show.

Yeah.

Great jokes.

Yeah.

That character is hilarious and deeply disturbing.

Yeah.

And I got it wrong initially.

I was playing her sort of quite evil.

And I was going to feel like,

it's not what you meant, is it?

She went, well, she's the most charming person in any room.

She'll be vile to you and you sort of.

Thank you.

Sort of thing.

Sort of being grateful for the, you know, she just.

Yes.

it's so vile.

I mean, it's like, yeah, she's, she's like an alt, the ultimate narcissist.

Yeah, yeah.

And when you're that way, you're usually quite charming.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're not usually like, there's a way in which you draw people in and you slowly

kill them.

And then the, the, the, the, before we get to the roses, I just, I, I feel like

there was this beautiful couple of years

where America

said.

I just realized, I just said how much I love women, and I've just done a film with Benedict as well.

Well, but Benedict feels like he's sensitive enough that he counts.

Oh my God, he does.

He really does.

I feel like I loved working with Benedict.

Well, we're going to talk about working with Benedict.

Okay, good.

He's going to be fine.

Okay, good, great.

Benedict can handle it.

Yeah, yeah.

He can handle it.

And Andy was, I love Andy.

Andy's fine.

And Jamie.

You love all of the people.

They know.

I do.

I do love the people.

I know.

Sorry to interrupt.

No, no, not at all.

But I'm not worried about Benedict.

Okay, okay, good.

He's so tall.

Yeah.

We don't have to worry about him.

No, he'll he'll be fine.

He will be fine.

But no, but we will talk about that because, but there was this like amazing couple of years where we got to see a lot of work being congratulated when you won that award, when you won the Academy Award, right?

And you've won a lot of awards.

And what I loved about that moment was what I felt in that moment.

And tell me if I'm wrong, is that you probably feel about awards the same same way I feel about awards which is like lovely but but like also who cares

I don't that's an awkward thing yeah I okay maybe I should say it less bluntly like well I

feel like oh my god it's it is the most lovely if your peers have said yes a seal of approval there's nothing better yes that I think also give yourself uh

a few days to feel pretty thrilled with yourself and then yes then forget it ever happened.

Go back to work.

That's right.

Yeah.

It was amazing and it might never happen again.

And weren't you lucky?

And now, head down.

I find that Brits in general accept awards really well because they do just that, which they kind of like stay in the moment and say thank you.

And they're very polite, but also you can tell they're like, I can't let, I can't internalize this or I'm in trouble.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is a little bit more American to be like, I made it to the top of the mountain and I'm here and I'm never getting off.

And I knew it and I got it and I went for it, but they're completely different feelings.

But that your speech was, do you have a, you know, I know it's hard to like think about yourself and talk about yourself.

It's always hard to talk about yourself.

But do you have, do you have a sense of why that speech was so well received?

It just was this like, everyone felt very

with you in that moment.

It felt like really organic.

What was your memories of getting up and giving that speech and, you know, like being inside of it?

What did it feel like?

So much I don't really remember.

Yeah.

But just beforehand, I, in the build-up to it, in the months, the build-up, people going, kept saying Oscars, and I go, stop it.

And I got furious.

It was all too scary, terrifying.

Don't be ridiculous.

And

then on the evening, like 20 minutes before we were meant to go, my husband went, don't be cross.

But just in case, I've just put some notes on a piece of paper and he went out.

And I went, just fucking wank.

Okay, that's quite a good thing.

So he just said, just remember, if it happens to

say this or say that, say thank you.

And

so it was that I would have,

well, I'm stuttering now.

I would have been so useless.

It was absolutely real and shocking.

But if it wasn't for him, just take, just take five minutes, just in case

to think about it, I know.

Writer, producer, director.

He took care of me.

General Hotty.

Yeah.

General Hotty.

And also the moment you guys had was so sweet too.

I mean, you have a wonderful, long-lasting marriage.

Yeah.

And you met at, where did you meet?

In the town of Cambridge.

He was at Cambridge.

Olivia's crying a little bit.

Yeah.

You love Ed.

He's your best friend.

You call him your best friend.

Ed.

I love love.

He's my best friend and I fancy him.

He's quite nice.

I love love.

Okay.

How did you meet?

You have his name.

I do have his name.

It's a bit like he's pissed on me that day, but then it was my choice.

We just stamped it on.

Okay, how did you meet?

We met in a play rehearsal.

And

I'd gone to two of the rehearsals, and there was no one particularly fanciable there.

And then I walked in and I saw his left-hand profile.

And at the time, he was smoking a Ziggy.

His little feet were crossed, and he's got this lovely bump in his nose.

And I saw his side profiles went, oh God, I'm going to marry him.

No.

Proper thunderbolts.

That's him.

That's him.

Yeah.

Oh.

I know.

Poor thing.

He didn't know.

And what does he say about it the first time he met you?

He genuinely can't remember.

That's so great.

I mean,

what is the secret to a long-lasting relationship?

Any tips?

Any advice?

No.

Because you're making making a movie about the opposite of that yes yeah that's true well it's our 25th wedding anniversary next year wow we've been together 31 years wow um

uh

we i don't think it's when we're not big fighters which apparently isn't very healthy than okay can we talk about this for a second i agree i see a lot of uh research that says you really should argue and fight

Okay, like it feels so like

what if you're not, I mean,

I don't, I'm not afraid of conflict, but I don't necessarily like want to search it out.

And yeah, I don't want people that argue.

And I do think that

it is okay.

We, we have learned over the years, but really late on actually to

sometimes, if that was an annoying, then just wait until it's

it doesn't work for everyone.

I know that.

And,

but we, I, I think it's better to wait till the much calmer moment to go, can we talk about that moment?

And I did find that a little weird and is that okay that i'm saying this and yes no i yeah i was a bit cross that day and okay but good okay i'm so pleased thank you so you know um that by far that's the most british conversation i've ever heard

yeah

actually no flu talking maggie chillenhall stood when we did the lost daughter and beautiful movie ed different ed was the costume designer and me he's english and i'm in english and he was talking about a hat and he said i i left the hat out i didn't know know if he wanted.

I went, Oh, I see, I didn't

know if did you want me to wear it now?

And he went, Oh, but if you like it, no, I do like it.

I just wanted because it's um, and this went on for 20 minutes.

And Maggie, at the time it was COVID, she took her mask down and went, Oh my god,

nothing has been said here.

20 minutes, yes, yeah, and I'd never realized it before that moment when she just,

yeah, so that's how we argue.

And and okay, so it leads me really naturally into the film that that's out right now with the great Benedict Cumberbatch.

And

what a pro.

What a pro.

And, you know, so I ask people before these podcasts to give me a question to ask my guests.

And we speak well behind their back, like I said.

And he was, you know, of course, he's like, absolutely adores.

you and you guys have never worked together before, which is really interesting.

And like you, I think he's able to, he's shown that he's able to toggle between a bunch of different styles and genres.

Also, it makes me think sometimes that,

you know,

there maybe is a bit more

license to do that in the UK than the US.

I don't know.

What to go between drama and maybe.

I'm thinking about it now because, you know, Emma Thompson and Kathy Burke.

And we do have a line of, well, I'm just thinking of of the women, but we do have a long line of people who've been allowed to do both.

Well, I remember people talking about Hugh Laurie in-house.

And it was like, you know, Hugh Laurie started in sketch comedy.

Sketch comedy.

Yeah, yeah.

But

he was asking me, he asked a very like sweet actor question, which is basically like he is in awe of you and what you can do.

And he was like, is there anything you're afraid of?

Acting-wise.

Well, I couldn't really tell.

I couldn't really tell what he would, what the question question was okay and but let's say sure

let's say acting wise anything where i have to show any skin

i don't like nothing

or pretending to have sex with someone i don't like it

i don't like it

i feel like i'm being on facebook and it just feels a bit

yeah

Even when they go, you can wear your jeans and a cushion between you.

I don't want to do that.

Is that what I don't know?

I don't really like that.

And by the way, bless the people that are good at it.

The people that are good at it.

I'm like, I'll watch it all day long.

Yeah.

And they're comfy, but oh, are they on-screen orgasm?

No, absolutely not.

Like, that's what you have to do that day.

Like, that's, that's tough.

Thank God for intimacy coordinators.

Absolutely.

Ita O'Brien, who isn't, she told me, and I was about to orgasm.

I'm like, oh,

God, how do you do that?

She said, imagine the sun is hitting your face.

That was great.

So just be given a, and you just go like this.

Yeah.

You just, you go, oh, my God.

Put your sunglasses on.

You should have done it like that.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Well, you got your, you got your answer, Benedict.

You got your answer.

But what was it like working with him on the film?

I loved working with him.

And he sort of feels like one of life's innocents in a way, you know,

because

we had such fun, but when it started to get a little bit more cruel to each other, he did go,

pause for a minute.

I'll be okay.

Yes, man, it's pretend.

It's all okay.

And, you know,

he's so in it.

And

it's just...

lovely, but I felt like I wanted to hold his hand a lot and go,

it's all, we're good, we're still friends.

yes, yeah.

And it's lovely to work opposite him because he's absolutely feeling it.

It's all instant.

I bet.

I bet.

I mean, even just seeing the way in which you, the two, watching the two of you spar is, is really exciting because it's two very good actors going really hard.

And plus, there's just a ton of like dumb physical stuff, which is so fun.

Do you like doing that?

No.

No, me neither.

I don't, I don't want to.

I'm not really physical.

I don't want to do that.

I will do any running.

Yeah, I don't want to.

But he is really good at that, which is great.

So I just had the gun and he just ran around.

And you're like, I think my character would sit.

Yeah.

And then Jay Roach.

Oh, my God.

Isn't he a delight, the director?

I love him.

I love him.

And I felt bad for him every day because it was like trying to nail jelly to the wall, trying to get us all to stop giggling or stop

doing bits and joking.

Also,

how often does he hit his head?

Oh, because he's so tall.

He wears a hat.

Oh, wow.

As well, he doesn't see the booms and the lights, and the crew ended up hanging sticky tape down from everything.

So that he was.

He still did it 15 times a day.

Oh, it's got to be some kind of psychological thing that he's doing.

He can't get cross with us.

He doesn't say that things.

And then, okay, we talked about Kate.

You worked with Andy.

Okay, the movie is out.

Okay.

And then my last question is

that I ask everybody, and it's kind of like a like the reason why I started doing this podcast genuinely was like to try to, I don't know, make sense of this wicked world and find some solace in what everybody was doing to keep themselves

laughing.

Um, what do you watch, read,

do,

what's making you laugh right now today, big or small?

Uh,

a you know, a person, a video, a show, old or new, that you go to?

The thing that makes me laugh more than anything, belly laugh, which doesn't happen often enough, is watching my husband fall over or hit his head

on purpose or by accident?

By accident.

You just love it.

By accident, it literally makes me go weak.

I clapped.

It's so funny.

Did you ever watch America's Funniest Home Videos?

Have you ever seen that show?

Oh, that's the sort of.

Standby.

Okay, I'm just one second for you.

We're going to get to the end of the day.

Did you look recently where people just lie down with their...

Have you seen this?

So I'm turn around and Ed's lying down.

You just see his head go and people go,

and they film.

Oh, that's that's gorgeous.

You love, do you like being pranked?

I've got to do that.

Haven't I filmed it?

Yes.

Okay, don't tell him.

Don't tell him.

Do you like being pranked?

No.

Okay, if someone makes me jump, I will punch them in a minute.

Me too.

I don't like being surprised.

I have to say that.

But you like when people get a tiny bit hurt?

Yeah.

But they're fine, right?

They have to jump.

They're fine, as long as they're okay.

I don't, if it looks like, oh God, that looks like...

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Okay, let's watch just two minutes of this.

I'm going to let you go.

I mean, I know what you mean.

Okay, these kind of things.

Do I need my glasses?

We're watching in America's Funniest Home Videos.

What's that person doing?

That person's stuck in the ceiling.

So

that person doing something

and she, she's stuck in the ceiling.

Okay, that might have been too hard a fall.

Have you seen the two women trying to get into the window?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, God.

That, that is.

Let's watch the two women get trying to get in the window.

Yes.

That is so.

And the other one is no help at all outside, clearly trying not to piss herself, going.

Yeah, when people start, when they're stuck and they start laughing,

that does

two women trying to get into a window.

Okay, here we go.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Okay, let's watch.

Here we go.

Here we go.

Okay, they're trying to get in the window, and one of them is giving the other one a foot up.

She's wearing a she's both barefoot

comes off.

So she's outside the house with these oops, you know, facing that way.

And her mate.

And her gloves come off and they're dying laughing.

I mean, this is the kind of thing that Benny Hill told me would happen when I, and it did happen.

It actually happened.

Oh my god, it's that.

I love that.

I do too.

There's nothing no better feeling.

That makes me want to watch that again.

And hearing them week, you know, when you can't speak.

Oh, yes.

I love it.

And knowing that one person is peeing

right in their pants and if the upside-down woman was also peeing

well olivia i love you i love you i love that you came thank you so much for coming and what i know is a long press day

and um if you want to leave a note for kate let me know oh yes please and has kate seen that i'm going to show she would enjoy that she's probably she probably is like reenacted it i was going to say she probably

thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

I want you to come and stay.

Okay, can I go to your house, please?

Thank you.

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