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Good morning, Gus.

Good morning, Eric.

So we recorded an episode, good morning,

yesterday as well, but

the

audio device, Eric's audio device messed up and didn't actually record.

So that's two out of five episodes, two out of four episodes where Eric's audio has messed up.

I was starting to see a pattern here.

I'm not blaming Eric, but he's doing something.

But yeah, but he is blaming Eric.

I'm definitely not blaming Eric because I got to work with him on the other thing.

Thanks, man.

So we may not put out the episode from yesterday.

Maybe we'll put it out without Eric.

Who knows?

Release Eric cut.

What we're definitely going to do is re-record it.

I don't know what he's talking about.

We're going to go back to where we recorded that one and do it again.

Yep.

But today...

But the bird sucks.

The bus sucks, but the walk was fucking awesome.

The walk was great.

That was a great walk.

It was.

Today's a sitter.

Yeah, today we're at Easy Tiger.

We talked about it yesterday after we were done.

We were walking around.

Today we're sitting around.

Yeah, y'all will never hear that.

Yeah.

But we did talk about it.

We also talked about how yesterday's recording was our favorite.

It was so good.

It was so good.

It was really fantastic.

But enough of making Eric feel bad for something that he had no control.

Oh, I woke up 10 times last night with this going like, and I was just like, fuck, goddamn, fuck.

And then just rolling back over and going back to sleep.

Yeah, tech issues suck.

But we're at Easy Tiger at the link.

I got audio texture on this bench.

Do you?

Oh, yeah.

Thanks, man.

I feel like I waited forever for this Easy Tiger to open because they announced it, they put up the signs, and I felt like it was like two years before this place finally opened.

And it's just such a central place at the time.

For me, at least, it was either this Easy Tiger or the one downtown.

And the one downtown is kind of a pain.

It was kind of a pain.

Yeah, it doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah, so if

you're not from Austin, and I don't know why you would be, nobody is, then you probably don't know what we're talking about.

Easy Tiger is a kind of a bakery, coffee shop,

sort of restaurant.

We went to one before.

We did.

The one down south.

The one down south.

It started on 6th street downtown on 36th as they call it super dirty it's in the super dirty part in the super dirty grimy dun like grungy part but it was awesome it's like just past it was past just casino el camino

and then next to like a river yeah it was close to the interstate it's like the first place you could really go in yeah wall the creek from the river straight that's what it was

and and that was really cool because they built into the creek.

Yeah, and you'd go down some huge stairs and then you'd be in this bar.

It's kind of a shitty part of downtown.

And then they had like, I remember they had like ping-pong tables and shit outside.

A big beer hall thing.

It was cool.

But it was really like a beer place that had pretzels and dinner.

And I used to get this fucking steak medallions there that they had

so good.

And the Easy Tiger that we have today

bears little resemblance to that place.

And not in a good or a bad way.

It's not a...

indictment on them.

It's just it's very different company or establishment now than it was.

They definitely leaned more into the bakery side of it.

They provide bread to all the grocery stores around town.

If you go to Whole Foods right now, you get Easy Tiger bread.

You get it at HEB.

Get it at H-E-B.

Yep.

I think that

they were owned as part of a restaurant group.

And that's what was holding up the construction of this place for so long.

Then I think they got out from under that restaurant group, and that's when they really worked in earnest on this place and opened it, which is probably also when they...

kind of pivoted the business and changed it a bit to what we know nowadays.

They had a place over on 7th Street for a while in what used to be this really nice French restaurant that was too nice for the location at the time, like it was ahead of the game.

And then they took it over and then they recently went under like that.

They closed that one down and the internet was very happy about it.

I read a lot of, you know, the Austin subreddit.

And apparently everybody hates CZ Tiger.

Yeah, I had no idea.

I didn't either.

I guess there's something,

I don't know.

Everybody hates everything in town, but...

If I remember right, specifically at the South.

I think a lot of it stemmed from that south location we went to before.

I think that they weren't paying out tips properly to the servers.

Oh, that's crazy.

I think management was taking, if I remember right, I think management was taking a portion of the tips and they were being pulled and people were being screwed out of their tips.

And

I think the Texas Workforce Commission or someone had to step in and kind of straighten it out.

You know it's bad if

the Texas

government's involved.

When the state of Texas goes, hang on, your business practices.

You're screwing the worker.

What?

oh then then it's too much Ted Cruz on a plane

that uh that the that location on 6th where it was built into like the creek or whatever was really cool and it would be fun around uh like RTX time yeah we would uh like mega 64 like we love going there because it was just a big open spot get a big pretzel and kind of fuck off or whatever

and it would be mosquito alley yeah

I like it was like, oh, do we want to, I mean, it was always a conversation.

Do we want to deal with these mosquitoes and go to this place, or do we want to not deal with the mosquitoes and go somewhere else?

Yeah.

It was crazy the amount of mosquitoes that just lived there.

Yeah.

You also had to walk through the shittiest part of 36.

Oh, yeah.

Which,

you know, it's just not fun.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I've been followed by dudes there before.

I've had to like

dodge into bars to get away from people.

It's also pretty smelly.

It's smelly and it's kind of sketchy.

It's way worse than it used to be.

Everybody who went to 36 back in the old days, before it was called 36, when it was just 6th Street, we would park under the bridge where those

I-35 bridge right there at 6th and 7th Street, those two parking lots.

Every single person would park over there because they were free, and then you would walk into 6th Street from there.

And so that little beginning part of 6th Street was always kind of sketchy because that was the first opportunity for people to try to swindle you or fuck with you.

But then it just got darker and grimmer and grimmer over the years.

And now you can pay me enough to park under that.

I think you have to pay to park there now, too.

I wouldn't.

They have like those heavy blue lights, too, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a weird spot.

Isn't that also where like the Texas Lottery does like?

It's right there.

Yeah.

It's also

weird.

Right next to that and right where, right next to Easy Tiger actually used to be a hair salon.

And that's where my wife first cut hair in Austin.

No way, really?

For like a couple years, that was her first job.

I can't imagine having to go to my salon job on 36th.

Fuck no.

And deal with that shit.

It was bad enough when Gus and I worked downtown and we had to just try to get to the parking garage.

That was only like a block.

Yeah.

We had to cross one street.

Oh, God.

But you're like,

if you left the office after 1.30 in the morning, you just have to be like, Just don't make eye contact.

Oh, shit.

Some fucking drunk dude's going to try to get into a fight with you.

It's just like, pay no attention

because there was always somebody drunk and pissing in the stairwell looking for a fight in the parking garage.

My favorite was, you know, walking to the parking garage carrying a backpack or a bag and seemed like every time getting asked, well, what, are you going to school?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, I totally am.

Yeah, I'm going to school.

Real, real original.

I only hear from every other drunk person here.

Yeah, thanks, man.

Yeah, I'm going to school.

So this location of Easy Tiger, much better.

Close to the old Rushi studio off 51st Street.

And then the other secret studio that we were never supposed to talk about.

Oh yeah, so are we talking about that?

Yeah, over here.

Oh my God.

I didn't say that.

What are they going to do?

Yeah, I know.

Yep.

We're not even in there anymore.

We don't exist.

Now it's a gym.

Yeah, it was a gym.

And now it became part of our studio.

Now it's a gym again.

You know what it was before it was a gym?

Many, many, many years ago?

Movie theater.

No, the movie theater is over there.

They're both real.

I don't know if you remember this, but the cool thing about this shopping center back in the 90s, that's all pulp fiction here.

Okay.

Back in the 90s is where the Marquesa is now or AFS Film Studios.

Yeah.

That's one movie theater.

And then on the other side was another movie theater.

And

it was the same movie theater, but you would go to the one

over there, Marquesa.

No, you would go to the other one that's not there anymore and you would buy your tickets there.

And depending on where your theater was, you would either walk across the parking lot to go into that theater or go into the one right in front of you, but you always bought your tickets from that one side.

I had no idea.

That's crazy because I only ever saw one movie here, and it was Titanic, which would have been like 97.

Yeah.

And it was at the other where Marquesa is now.

And I got the ticket there and went in there.

So maybe by that point.

I might have the order backwards.

Maybe you bought your tickets over there and went to the other one.

But yeah, it was wild.

I saw

Pulfiction.

I want to say I saw Lost Highway there.

A bunch of stuff.

Oh, cool.

Four weddings and a funeral.

No,

there was a four rooms.

There were four rooms.

There was

here

across middle fiskville over there

and then no besides the galaxy islands over there there was another one over there and then this one here there's like theater alley yeah this is a cool spot in the 90s uh that's where we go see the galaxy island or whatever is where the 40x crew goes and sees 40x movies and it is

uh they really did it up so it's not what that theater used to be for a long time that theater correct me if i'm wrong but that theater is where gus and bernie and matt and i got to watch an advanced screening of Spider-Man 3.

Oh my god.

Like a super advanced screening.

It was like something, some way we got hooked up.

And we went.

They had an intermission.

What?

It was like the projection had messed up.

The actual fix it

up.

And so they had an intermission.

And we went out.

We're halfway through the, we're halfway through the movie.

We've already seen the collar pop.

Yeah.

And Gus and I are like, we go out in the hallway and Gus and I are like, this is one of the worst fucking things I've ever seen.

This is terrible.

Like, can you, like, am I crazy?

And Bernie and Matt are over going, like, what are you talking about?

This is awesome.

This is like the best movie I've ever seen.

And they're like shitting on Gus and I for being like, this is not good, right?

They were so wrong.

I've never seen those two be so wrong about it.

They were both so wrong in the moment.

Yeah.

And they probably won't acknowledge it now.

No, of course not.

But they were incredibly wrong in the moment.

And I am sure their opinions changed afterwards.

But I just remember thinking, like, how are we all watching the same movie?

How are we all working together and having such disparate opinions about this?

That's so funny.

The last movie I saw at that Galaxy Highland was Toy Story 3.

And I went to a late-night showing thinking, you know, there'd be no kids.

I think the showing was like at 9 or 10 p.m.

Theater was filled with kids.

It was a school night.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, so it was not a great showing.

Then leaving, walked out to the parking lot over there on the other side,

and there was a truck parked next to me.

And the dude sitting in the driver's seat was getting a blowjob.

Yeah!

Yeah!

So yeah, I was like, Galaxy Highland's not for me.

I'm not coming back.

Do you remember what movie it was that we saw in Seattle?

We had to get on a plane.

Like a, I want to say we had like a red eye or something.

So we went to the movies.

It was a late movie.

It was like a 10 p.m.

movie.

And it was some sort of a martial arts film.

And it was me and you and Bernie and I don't know, maybe Jason or somebody that we saw it.

And the theater was full of little kids.

But it was like a grown-up, grown-up movie.

Like there was martial arts, but it wasn't a martial arts film.

It was just like it was involved in it.

You know what I'm talking about?

I don't remember that.

You don't?

Maybe you weren't there for that but I thought you were yeah no I don't remember that because I remember you being very upset because there was

like a that you were like double mad you were upset that they were there at like 11 o'clock at night and then you were upset that they were at a grown-up movie that does that does sound like me so I probably just probably just drunk at the time it's all right sure uh this this area there's a there's a place I love right almost right next door to this Easy Tiger just down here.

I don't know if you ever been there.

It's called Happy Lemon.

He took us.

I've been with Gus to this place.

It is so fucking good.

It's like just, it's primarily drinks.

You can get like

lemon slushies or like boba teas or

essentially fancy Taiwanese milkshakes.

Yeah.

That's what I like to think of it.

Yeah.

But they have a thing there called a bubble waffle, which is just like a really thin waffle that's got like almost like ping pong ball size little air pockets in it.

And it's just super delicious.

Super delicious.

It's just a waffle?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

It's called Happy Lemon.

Yeah.

It's just, I mean, it's right down here.

It's like right next to here is the FedEx, and then right on the side of the FedEx is Happy Lemon.

Is that Peruvian place still there?

Yeah.

Nima Cruola?

Yeah.

It's still there on the right side.

It's okay.

I like Peruvian food a lot.

Yeah.

There's also a mochi nut here now, too.

I don't know if either of you ever been there.

It's like mochi donuts.

Hell, we should have gone there to get pastry instead of this.

Why?

We're at Easy Tiger and you both got chocolate chip cookies.

So in the last episode that never came out yesterday, I got a chocolate chip cookie at Quax and I had a whole story about it.

And I said the chocolate chip cookie at Quax was actually pretty good.

It was better than I expected it to be.

This cookie looks better, but it's super underwhelming.

It's the world's

cakeiest cookie cookie.

It's too cakey.

It's so cakey.

It looks full of chocolate, but somehow the chocolate to bread ratio is way wrong.

It's way off.

It's way wrong.

You're not getting nearly enough chocolate per bite.

And I don't even like chocolate, but it belongs in a chocolate cookie.

I agree.

And it is the glue that holds cookie together.

No, I'm with you.

There's not enough glue in this cookie.

No, it's a big cakey thing.

Disappointing.

Yeah.

I'm sorry you had to pay for it, Eric.

Fucking

my section looks bigger than everyone else's section.

So in the last episode from yesterday, Eric had to pay.

And then again, today we parked and it was, it was 100% Eric.

There was no doubt about it.

Yeah, there was a lot of

space on either side from where the tire was.

That's all Eric's part.

But looking at how the other thirds are broken up, I'm just,

I don't know, concerned, I suppose.

That's true.

We We didn't redraw it from yesterday.

I feel like even if we do back-to-back day recordings, we should redraw.

I agree every time.

Yeah, I agree.

And my section should be smaller.

No, no, no.

Or we can change the colors for people, you know?

Oh,

like maybe I just make me red next time.

Oh,

Jeff's like that.

Jeff's never going to get it.

Dude, dumb luck.

Jeff's always going to get it.

That's what we were saying.

The luckiest man on earth.

He's never going to have to pay for the cost.

Just remember, there are two kinds of luck.

There is good luck and there is bad luck.

Speaking of bad luck,

I had some bad luck last week okay the worst kind of austin luck my ac stopped blowing cold no

it was in the afternoon it was like four o'clock oh the coolest part right and i'm like sitting in my house like feels a little warm i've been like running around like cleaning up or just doing whatever in the house right so it's like maybe it's just because i've been active i'm gonna go stand under the ac vent and get nice and cool yeah stand under the vent is blowing on me like That's not cool air.

Oh, no.

That's just air.

So I have to call, you know, an AC place and I'm thinking probably no one's going to probably come out for a couple days.

So I call a place and like, yeah, we can, we can send someone out today, but it's going to be after hours rates.

Here we go.

Getting fucked.

So yeah, it only takes a couple hours.

Dude shows up like at six.

Uh-huh.

And in the meantime, like before he shows up, I'm like, I'm going to clean my drain line.

I'm going to do the preventative stuff I know I can do.

Hopefully something works and nothing worked.

By the way, I blew up my drain line.

I don't know how your drain line is.

There's two pipes side by side on mine.

I had a shop back, so I was like, I'm just going to set it on blow, put it into one, blow it out then put it in the other blow it out put in the first one turned on the shop back and a ton of mud and just flew up all right into my face

nest

okay

holy glad that's gone i was just covered like my face and my right arm were just covered had to go rinse that off blew out the other one didn't fix it Like two hours later at six o'clock, AC guy shows up and he you know, he checks the drain line too.

He does all his stuff, runs some tests,

pulls out whatever magic gizmos he has.

Yeah.

He's like, oh, yeah, your capacitor is going out.

It's like, it's not totally dead, but it's, it's mostly dead.

Uh-huh.

Like, great.

In my head, I'm like, how much is this going to cost?

Two, three hundred bucks?

Yeah.

He's like, yeah, well, you know, it's after hours and everything.

So it's going to be $580.

Oh.

I'm like, here we go.

Well, in my head, I'm like, well, the guy's here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I may as well have him fix it.

It's like, if he doesn't fix it, there's going to be a service fee.

You don't have to pay a regular rate for someone to come out tomorrow or the next day or whatever.

You have to pay the same.

Right.

It's like he's already here.

I just fucking paid a $580.

And it's fine.

I'm happy he showed up quickly and fixed it.

But still, I was like gritting my teeth.

Like, this should not cost me $580.

But at least I've got cool air again.

Damn.

Did you offer him see if he would do something for a cash price?

Well, under the table business.

Yeah, I should have.

Maybe you got a capacitor that fell off the truck.

I don't know.

You left the door open.

I was talking to my dad about that the other day.

That used to be such like a thing.

It's like, oh, you know, it's $3,200.

We'll get it done in 11 days, whatever.

And then you go, right, but what's the cash price?

And he goes, get it done in three for $2,000.

And you go, okay, absolutely.

Faster and cheaper?

Uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it doesn't feel like cash price is a thing anymore.

No, because everything's so like accounted for.

I don't think cash price can be a thing like in, I think cash price is still probably a thing like in Theodore, Alabama where I grew up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

When you call a company,

the company is accounting for all this stuff.

Yeah.

And, like, yeah, we sent you out there.

Why didn't you bring in the revenue we expected?

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, that's like even a whole Simpsons episode where Homer's stealing cable is because the cable guy comes out and offers to hook up Flanders illegally, then offers to hook up Homer illegally.

Can you imagine that today?

Fucking Spectrum guy showing up, be like, hey, are you on?

You want me to hook you up illegally?

Get you some free cable?

I missed that about the 80s.

This is a little wild blessedy, you know.

I had that happen in college.

Did you?

Had a guy who was hooking some stuff up.

He's about my age.

He knocked on the door and he's like, hey, what's going on?

Doing some work up here.

You guys interested in cable?

And I went like, oh, I don't know, whatever.

And then it was like,

no, like, you know, oh, grease it a little bit.

Some cable.

Gotcha.

And it was like, fuck it.

Yeah.

So we all pulled our, pulled like a little bit of cash and gave the guy like, it was like 60 or 70 bucks or whatever cash.

He just went up there and boop, boop, thing, and it was done.

We had cable.

It was the coolest three months ever.

And then one day came home from class and turned on the tv nothing nothing nothing and then it was my roommate paul going yeah they turned it off and it was like

damn that was the best when i was in college i lived in the one year i was in college i lived in a dorm it was a similar thing where everyone got cable i didn't think about it yeah one day it was gone I was like, oh, that sucks.

And then a dude like down the hall was like, I can fix it.

Walked over to like the box.

No shit, really?

Yeah, like, red some shit.

It was like, okay, cool.

We got cable again.

Like, I guess it was like in the late 90s that was possible, but but still unusual where it's like yeah a dude knows how it works you just had to have it was just like a tool and like a couple of things and then go like oh this is the this is the thing that blocks it i'm gonna take the thing off and then it's like oh okay now you get it running a business comes with a lot of what-ifs but luckily there's a simple answer to them shopify it's the commerce platform behind millions of businesses including thrive cosmetics and momofuku and it'll help you with everything you need from website design and marketing to boosting sales and expanding operations, Shopify can get the job done and make your dream a reality.

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Technology has killed our ability to be little schemers.

Yep.

Yep.

Like I was thinking about that the other day.

I was thinking about dudes that used to get that I knew that would get flea phone calls at phone machines by like wrapping tape around a corner and putting it in and pulling it out, you know?

And you just can't do that shit anymore.

You just can't get one over on the man anymore.

A big thing, and we've talked about this in the past,

we talk about stamps a lot, I think, in the past, but like a big thing in the punk world, and they would give you tutorials on how to do it when you would order something from a punk scene, is it would be like, reuse your stamps, put a thin layer of Elmer's glue over your stamp so that when it comes in, you can wipe the fucking postmark thing off and reuse the stamp.

And it was like a whole economy around stealing stamps, you know, and it's just like,

still do it.

I think, yeah, and you talked about technology ruining that, but I think it's largely the transition from an analog world to a digital world.

That's absolutely what it is.

And, you know, you think about like back in the 70s and 80s, like the whole phone freaking scene where like a dude figured out if you got the whistle that was a prize in Captain Crunch cereal and blew it into a payphone, the payphone would give you free calls.

Yeah.

It's like stuff like that.

Like that just doesn't happen.

It's impossible.

It can't happen anymore.

First of all, you don't have payphones.

Yeah.

But second of all, like that analog

system is just gone.

There's no way to circumvent that.

That's a scene in Sopranos where

two of the guys go to like a Starbucks that's opening.

So it's, I think it, I think it, no, no, no, it's not ball ads.

It's Patsy.

And somebody else.

I think like the

Patsy and the guy that

needs it that you never see again.

Yeah.

So they go in there and they start talking to like the manager.

Like, oh, yeah, hey, we're from the East Emp production service and you pay us and we make sure nothing happens.

And the guy's like, look, that's not like everything's accounted for.

And they're like, it would be a shame if something happened.

And he's like, Every bean is counted.

And if I play ball with you, then I'm out, and a new guy comes in, and that's it.

And then they just walk out and they go,

It's over for the little.

I think that's the funniest.

It's like, oh, that's so great.

I think that's such a perfect scene.

Yeah, that's also like the espresso, like this was our theme.

Yeah,

they took it from us.

Yeah, that's oh, it's so good.

That oh, like fucking put it's put in his jacket.

It's so funny.

Like,

I love the scheming.

Like, it feels so 80s to have, like, the schemes and everything.

And that was like the whole, that Terminator 2 has him hacking the fucking ATM and all that stuff.

And that was like the coolest thing.

It was so, like, I just feel like you, uh,

people could be clever.

Yeah.

In different ways in the old days.

You can still be clever, but he's digitally clever.

Yeah.

It's tough.

You talked about the ATM that reminded me a couple of weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago.

I read a story about a guy, I think it was in Australia, who figured out how to fuck with ATM machines.

And

got like several million dollars over the course of a year.

It was like, if he could fake transactions on an ATM, the bank didn't reconcile the transactions until the end of the day or the next day.

So he would make a fake deposit, do a fake transfer, get money into his account.

Yep.

And then just as long as by the end of the day, he transferred back, everything was okay.

Because at the end of the day, it all reconciled.

It was like this weird scheme he came up with.

Millions.

Yeah, got away with it.

I think he eventually told the bank.

He did.

and yeah they uh they realized what like this weird loophole in their system yep but yeah that should be us making millions maybe maybe the world is just as clever and sketchy as ever we're just i'm just too old to be clever yeah i think it's with the new uh society i i just think it's it's all in a digital space like we were talking about and it's like we want to be analog clever yeah me too uh it's like dark web stuff is where

i think think that that's where like a lot of that stuff lives.

Like on like the sort of in-betweens of like a lot of things where you can just go on like the regular internet, but then you go on the dark web and then you can buy, then you can buy ecstasy and they sell it to you in a DVD case.

It's just that.

I was talking, I was, you know, doing Stinky Dragon stuff the other day and we were in a meeting and John Reisinger was talking about how he had just watched sneakers for the first time the day before.

I don't know if you've ever seen it.

Great movie.

Yeah.

But it's very much that like analog hacking kind of stuff, but like social engineering and like figuring out ways, like where the system breaks down and poking at the edges.

Yeah.

And in that meeting, Blaine said he'd never seen sneakers before.

I was like, I cannot think of a more blain-that's such a blame sneakers.

I was like, you should go watch that immediately, right now.

I can't imagine that's never popped up in your radar somehow.

Yeah, no kidding.

Jeez.

But yeah, that's very much in that spirit.

Yeah.

How's your

Mondays going?

Busy.

Yeah.

It's spilled over to the rest of the week.

Oh, no.

I've got uncontained week spillover.

Your perfect six-day weekend ruined.

I don't know if I even have a two-day weekend anymore.

It's pretty packed.

As soon as you got in your car yesterday and we were all, we were breaking.

I looked at it.

I got like, oh, that's done for the week.

Nope, definitely not.

Do you guys stack it all on your Monday?

That's just like where you do most of your stuff?

Monday.

So it varies.

Monday's primarily a lot of our internal meetings, stuff that we need to coordinate and get done.

Then other stuff pops up throughout the week.

Like I've got two other meetings today that aren't necessarily internal meetings, kind of external meetings.

And

we do other recordings on, we do some recordings on Monday, some recordings on Wednesday.

It's just all over the place.

It's mostly, we have our big meetings on Monday, too.

We meet for about 40 minutes.

That's about it.

And it's a lot of me going, what do you guys want to do?

And they go,

let's see.

It's a lot of just like looking at the list and going, like, what did we record and what do you want to put out?

It's a lot of, for us, because our releases are across so many channels and everything.

And then we have things that we have promised to people through like Patreon and everything.

A lot of our Monday is planning out the next two weeks,

which is incredible because that's the furthest we've ever planned out in the history of me working with any of these people.

And then the next week is looking at the next two weeks and seeing if there's any adjustment.

So it's always nice to be like about two weeks ahead.

And it feels like we have so much fun recording this stuff that it's hard to

like, okay, what's the thing that we have to put out?

Yeah.

And then what's the thing that we really, really, really want to put out?

And then what do we need to get edited?

And now we have like the ability.

Like we hired on for contract stuff

a few of the old achievement hunter editors to do like gameplay stuff.

And that's been really good for us.

It's been awesome.

Yeah.

It's been wonderful.

Yeah, they've been doing great jobs.

Yeah.

And they're and fast too.

I will say, though, just for you and I,

and more so you right now than me because I've been out of town dealing with stuff, but

grown-up meetings are creeping in.

Oh, yeah.

You and I have an 8 a.m.

meeting tomorrow.

We have an 8.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll.

But it's okay.

It's for our, it's with our accountant.

Oh, okay.

That makes sense.

I got to meet with them later.

Yeah.

It's so it's that, and that's fine.

Like, I don't mind having that meeting.

Yeah.

And now we're getting, so regulation is getting on with a company and getting like merchant everything done.

And I had a meeting with them yesterday to kind of go over stuff and get everything going and blah, blah, blah, or whatever.

But like, those meetings are becoming more frequent.

But at the same time,

I know how to run those meetings kind of like quickly.

Yeah.

To go, like, here's everything that I have on my hand.

What can I do for you?

Yeah.

And then, you know, we have the hour schedule and we're done with in 35 minutes.

That's my goal.

I wish we were like that.

That's, I don't, I don't mince words.

We're just trying to get in, get out.

This is an information sort of gather and exchange, and that's it.

But I know with like the CPA one, I

don't know what.

Yeah, that is like, ooh, these are scary numbers, and I don't know what to do with it.

So

I'm really grateful that we still, you know, we're doing this podcast, and we still talk a lot, and are still in pretty much constant communication because I feel like we've been able to...

share knowledge and resources during this independence

journey that we're all undertaking through different channels.

And I think it's been really helpful to be like, hey, what are you doing for this problem?

Or hey, what are you doing for this thing?

And like, oh, I found this company or I found this guy who does this thing.

You may want to talk to them.

Yeah, I think that that's a really excellent thing that you brought up that I wish the audience could see because we get so much sentiment from people across socials and the internet of people going like, why don't you guys just band back together?

And, you know, I hate that I have to pay money to the Eat Guys and the Regulation guys and then Stinky Dragon then I want Red Web or

Best Friends Today or whatever I gotta you know

and that it just sucks that they spread out and they're not together anymore

we well clearly the the the being together thing didn't work yeah if it had we'd all still be together we wouldn't have all right got kink slips right right

I think that time has come and gone and there may be another time like that in the future but it's not where it is right now right now it's small intimate groups that are hyper focused on one thing yeah um but what the audience doesn't see is that as gus said we are all in constant communication i talked to trevor about red web extensively last week and you know we talk about the well you're on both sides of eat and regulation and there's constant communication there we're constantly talking i i talk to ben earns i talk to barbara i mean i talk with best friends today all the time like it's yeah

armondo is is doing what it's just like there's a lot of communication just because we don't work together doesn't mean we don't talk to each other anymore.

Doesn't mean we aren't still, you know, multi-decade friends.

Yeah, exactly.

Still trying to help each other out.

Help each other out.

Yeah, exactly.

Because that's what we want.

Like, I want,

you know, you have the two-hour phone call of like, what are we doing?

And talking through like a lot of this stuff.

And then at the end, it's like, wow, thank you.

I hadn't thought of it this way or haven't done it this way or whatever.

And it's like, yeah, I want to see.

us succeed just as much as I want to see you guys succeed to see everyone succeed to like do this stuff.

And just because we aren't under like one big umbrella doesn't mean that we can't do that.

and we all still have that knowledge Yeah, yeah, and experience and we're still sharing it with you dude best friends today just crossed like a hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube dude.

I'm so fucked up.

They are they're crushing, but at the same time, it's like

I don't envy that position because I mean you guys How old were you guys when you started rooster team?

25.

And that is where like Sammy and Will and stuff for like best friends today, they're like a little younger and they're like, I don't want to run a business.

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

And they're crossing, like they have successes.

And I just, you know, it's a lot of conversations about like, if you can be consistent, people keep coming.

And then they cross 100,000.

And it's like, do you guys understand that I would fucking kill to cross 100,000 for 100% E?

And that's not even our main revenue.

Like, that's just YouTube.

Like, we, our revenue comes from podcasts, whatever.

YouTube, I would love to be doing numbers like they're doing.

They're crushing.

That's true.

But man, YouTube revenue is such garbage.

That's the hard part is they have a Patreon and they're doing stuff, but then you have to rely on YouTube, and it's not 2008 anymore.

Yeah, we, I mean, we get you know, YouTube is not Stinky Dragons' primary destination for content.

We get okay numbers.

Now, some of our shorts pop off pretty big, but man, it isn't, it doesn't sustain itself.

Yeah, uh, like if that was just our primary revenue, we'd all be out of business again.

Yeah, feel free to cut this if

you feel this is inappropriate.

Uh,

but

I think we've got our YouTube up to what's fairly healthy for what it is.

Yeah.

But our YouTube revenue is about 8%

of our Patreon revenue.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I think ours.

Maybe that's in my head and I'm bad at math, but it's less than 10.

It's like seven or maybe seven and a half to eight percent.

Ours is probably around the same.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ballpark figure.

Which if you want to know, like if you're an audience member and you want to know like what the breakdown is, Patreon is like 95% of what we we make uh like i said youtube is less than produces less than 10 of what patreon produces and then ad revenue produces

maybe 10 maybe maybe and that and that might be an overestimate yeah so if you put if we didn't have patreon and we just had youtube and ad revenue yeah we wouldn't have no

for for 100 eat

it pays it just about pays our rent on our studio space every month yeah almost like like it's like right around there and we don't bang like our numbers aren't like banger numbers on youtube that's just not where we focus but we're consistent on it and people come through and we do okay

but it like pays our rent for our space which is not i mean you guys have been to the space which is it's not a lot of money at all our youtube revenue does not cover the cost to make the animated content to put on youtube exactly

there there's a lot of there's always a lot of talk online about like well with YouTube, whatever.

And I think that's a lot of like 2012 operation

sort of mindfulness of like,

we don't make any money.

YouTube is, YouTube is the second biggest search engine in the world.

And that is why you have to put your stuff on YouTube.

And it's the biggest streaming search engine.

Exactly.

And when you don't put your stuff necessarily, like, I don't know that this podcast is going to go on YouTube because we're not concerned about the revenue for it.

We're not concerned.

We just, we want to make the show to put it out there for people to listen to, whoa, whatever, whatever.

And if we get a little bit of scratch from inserted ads or ad reads or whatever, that's great.

Then that pays for the coffee.

Yeah.

But like.

Eric pays for the coffee.

Okay, that's enough.

The thinking that like,

well, you got to put it on YouTube, that's for like a growth business thing.

And this is a passion project little small thing that we just want to do.

Like if we didn't put 100% eat stuff on...

YouTube or we didn't put regulation podcasts on YouTube all we would get on comments and things you would hear from people is why isn't this on YouTube?

And I know that's what we're going to hear from this podcast when it comes back.

This is 50% fan service and 50% friend service.

Yeah, absolutely.

And 50% coffee.

And 50% coffee.

We're 150% podcast, baby.

And it's 200% not on YouTube.

Because

we wouldn't make enough on YouTube to pay for the management layer of putting.

No.

Before we launched our Patreon and did everything with Stinky Dragon, we talked to a lot of people and tried to figure out the pricing structure and how we're going to approach this.

And we talked to another group that's pretty popular on Patreon and asked them

what the thought process was behind their tiers and why they priced things the way they did.

And very lucky that a lot of people were willing to talk to us and give a peek behind the curtain about how they run things.

And this group said that they want to put the bulk of their offerings at the $5 level.

because even if a listener comes into their Patreon and gives them $5 once and then immediately cancels a contribution, that's already more revenue than they would get from that listener just listening to ads or watching on YouTube or on any other platform.

Just to put it in perspective for the listener, like, well, how little that other stuff is worth.

It's the same thing as Rooster Teeth.

We would, it was good to have people watch on YouTube because it raised what we call top of funnels and searchability.

And the more views we had, the more searchable we were and the more discoverable we were.

But we got paid something like a hundred times per view more if you just watched a video for free on our website where we ran the ads versus watching it on YouTube.

It's insane.

And at that point, we're not talking about like

a ton of people watching on the website, but a thousand people watching on the website is worth 50,000 people watching.

It does so much more.

If that 50,000 people on YouTube isn't going to materially affect the searchability and discoverability and the algorithm, which it no longer was and it hasn't been for a very long time.

Right, right, right.

And I think that, I think think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of my stuff i'm trying to get it out of the sun

eric's bullying my recorder i'm uh i i think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of why you start a service

like we had with rooster teeth and i think that that's such a big reason that if you can capture those people and get them on your site you're not paying it's not a 70 30 split or whatever you are getting fully that amount and you can get less views on that thing and then you still have your top of funnel feeders, but then when you lose the top of funnel feeder stuff, then people don't go to that site.

It's it's hard.

You can't, it's sort of like I want to have it both ways, and you can't really have it both ways.

And that's why I think podcasts work really well because you can listen, and we can insert ads here or whatever.

And then if we got people to come over to the site to listen to a podcast or whatever, then we had the ads inserted there or whatever.

And again, that's the point of having a streaming service of that thing.

I don't want one.

I'm fine with where we're at, but I'm also, I'm never going to be the guy that's

okay.

I need this line to go up and to the right again and again and again and again.

I love being comfortable and feeling fine about it.

Yeah.

Well, I don't want to chase views ever again, you know.

And with the setup that we have, we don't have to.

We just need to

find an impassioned and supportive audience of any size and and then continue to provide enough value to that audience that they support us monetarily.

I will put an asterisk on that.

You do have to chase the views to a certain point.

You do, you've just reached that point.

You don't need to go any further.

Yeah.

Like, see, if you're starting from scratch, yeah, you do need to chase it for.

I feel like I'm still chasing them.

I'm still wanting that graph to move up into the right order.

We've talked about it before where

I don't know that it's so much the chasing new eyes as it is informing old eyes.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

You have to let people know, hey, we're still making it.

There was a comment on 100% eat on Twitter.

This is a couple weeks ago, and it was a clip that we put out for the podcast of something goofy happening or whatever, Gracie being weird or whatever.

And a guy who followed the Twitter commented, oh, are they doing a video podcast now?

And it's like, you fought, we've been doing this for three months, you follow this, and you still don't know what we're doing.

And that is so much a bigger piece of the pie than anyone realizes.

Where people go, Yeah, well, obviously, they're doing regulation podcasts.

How do you not know that?

And it's like, well, I haven't watched Chief One Hunter since 2014.

Yeah, it's like it's audience education.

And people, I think some people get annoyed.

Like, you're beating us over the head with this information.

Like, we have to.

I have to say it a thousand times to catch one person that's out there that didn't know.

You have no idea how cool and frustrating it is in equal measure to load up YouTube on a regulation gameplay or podcast and have somebody go, What is this?

Yeah.

And you're like, Oh, that means you found it.

That's awesome.

And also, how did that reach you already?

How?

There are so many comments I'll get with Stinky Dragon, either whatever service, on a podcast service, on YouTube, wherever, that the comment will just be like, Is the DM Simmons from Red vs.

Blue?

Yeah.

It's like, How did you make that connection?

Yeah, and you don't know.

Let's scoot down this one.

We're going to scoot down to some shade.

It's a pretty hot morning.

I think yesterday and today are the two hottest days of

summer.

I was talking to my neighbor, Craig.

He said, Man, you better keep it cool today.

And I said, You know it, Craig.

Hope your capacitor doesn't go out.

He uh,

what time did I leave the house this morning?

8:30.

And he was having a talking of Bud Light.

Nice.

Nice.

Living the life.

Is that what Craig's got going on today?

Oh, that's okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, it is Wednesday, right?

What is today?

It is Wednesday.

It's Wednesday, okay.

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I got pissed off the other week.

Hell yeah.

I saw a post in.

I do not like the Rooster Teeth subreddit.

Do you still go to the Rooster Teeth subscribe?

I still go every now and then.

There's not much activity there, but I saw a post

on the Rooster Teeth subreddit that said something like, hey, now that it's been three months and Rooster Teeth is gone, I thought by now we'd hear some more shit talk and some more behind-the-scenes stuff about what was really going on at Rooster Teeth.

I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't seen anything.

I'm not trying to start any shit or anything here, but

where's all the shit?

Yeah, where is it all?

And I was like, you motherfucker.

You

bottom-feeding piece of shit.

Yeah, absolutely.

Hey, I'm not trying to start shit, but where's all the shit?

Yeah.

Like, man, talk about like wanting the dirty stuff, but not wanting to get your own hands dirty to get it.

The post got deleted.

I don't know if the poster deleted or the mod deleted or what happened to it, but I was like, man.

And

I just, I don't know how you have that mentality.

Is it like a really young kid who doesn't know any better?

No.

Or is it just someone who's just

no, it's a classic idiot.

It's just one of those.

It's one of those classic idiots.

I think that there's a thinking that there's like, what's all the nefarious news and all of the backroom deals that were going on.

I feel like we were pretty upfront about most of what happened and how things went down and why they went the way they did for the better part of 10 years.

I don't think there was any...

Yeah,

let now let's get after it.

But I'm not encouraging it.

No.

Like, what the fuck?

I'll tell you the deep, dirty, dark secret.

A bunch of people tried really hard to keep their jobs by making as much

content as they could in the best way that they could.

But every year that we lost employees and our group shrunk and our ability and our capability shrunk and we were in a hiring freeze.

So every time we lost somebody, we couldn't replace them and it became that much harder to shoulder the burden.

And we did our fucking best and ultimately we, in the eyes of Warner Brothers, and I would say probably most of the world ultimately failed.

And we lost our jobs and now everybody is picking up the pieces and moving on with their lives and trying to make a living.

I think that's the dark underbelly of research.

I mean, that's all.

At some point, we failed to the degree that we couldn't continue.

We failed to keep moving that arrow up and to the right.

Yeah, exactly.

That's all this.

That's what it is.

I think it's interesting, you know, after the shutdown was announced,

the passion that lots of these groups still had to continue making their projects and to finish their projects out to the best of their ability.

And I think you see that people really enjoyed the things they were working on by the fact that some people fought to retain the rights to their stuff.

Some people weren't able to get the rights to their stuff, but have continued making content in a similar vein.

I'll tell you the real story of rooster teeth if you want to know who rooster teeth is and what rooster teeth is all about you look at the last 60 days of that company oh i agree when we found out we were losing our jobs and jordan came in and hannah came in and said listen if we haven't sold an ad on it

you don't have to do it we understand we're all losing our jobs you guys don't have to put you don't have to keep pushing this fucking boulder up this hill any longer.

We have to fulfill our obligations.

But if you guys want to start slowing this down, it's ending.

You don't have to put out content until the last day.

And every motherfucker in that company to a fault said no, we're all putting out.

We are going to put it out and we're going to put it out to the best of our ability until we literally can't because you turned the fucking lights off on us.

And that's what happened.

And that is what Rooster Teeth was, and that is who those people are.

That's the real story of Rooster Teeth.

That with impending job loss,

for the last 60 days, they came together, we all came together, and we finished as strong as humanly possible.

Yeah.

I knew

that it was

going to continue, like the passion that people had and everything was going to continue when the first day they said, hey, what IP do you want?

Send an email with like a list.

And they were flooded with emails from

people internally is going like we want the right store shows we want the right store shows because we want to keep making this stuff like all through the shutdown we were still making face jam we were still making fuck face we were still making this stuff because we didn't want to stop and then we haven't stopped we don't miss weeks like we're passionate about

I maybe wasn't super passionate about the hours of meetings that I had to go to when I was working at Rooster Teeth, but I was passionate about making the shows.

And then as soon as we could make the shows without all the hours of meetings, we'll get what we're doing now.

Dude, that's how badly we wanted to make the shows.

Yes.

We cared so much about what we were doing that you put up with the meetings.

Yes, absolutely shit.

And the administrative layer and all of that.

Because the, you know, the hour a day that you get to do that thing makes up for the eight hours a day that you have to do the other show.

Absolutely true.

Yeah.

It really does.

And the beauty about where we are right now, and I hope it resonates with the audience, is that

because we have

split off into these small groups, we have eliminated that management layer, and so now we're freer to devote all of our time to the thing.

If anything, from a content standpoint, this should be a huge positive for audience members of all of the post-RT content.

You know what I mean?

Hopefully.

nitpick there is it's not that we eliminated the management layer.

It's that we are the management layer.

We are the management layer.

Again, yeah yes yeah yeah so it's it's uh but no we eliminated a lot of that because a lot of it was superfluous yeah and and i do think that that's

that's by nature of growth and being a company is that there are

you get to a point where you're hey we're gonna make rt life and we're gonna make red versus blue and we have achievement hunter and then we're gonna do these shorts and then we're gonna do more live action stuff

three guys in a spare bedroom can't do all of that.

You know what I mean?

Like, it has to grow, and you have to have other people that, like, do those things, and then it just kind of keeps growing.

For a company like ours to succeed, the right hand has to know what the left hand is doing at all times, and vice versa.

And Rooster Teeth became a company with many, many hands.

There's a lot of hands.

And that requires a layer of management that is obnoxious at times, but necessary.

Yeah.

And here's the thing.

Since we've gone independent and doing this stuff or whatever, we've added what you could call layers of management.

We have a merch service team.

That's a management.

They're managing that stuff.

We have accountants who are managing the money.

We have management structures here.

It's just that we are ostensibly the CEO of the whole thing.

Yeah.

So that's it.

Yeah.

So it's a weird reversal, right?

Management sits below us now.

Yes.

Instead of the other way around.

So So it's just a reversal where we can focus, instead of doing, we can focus on the one hour a day.

We expand it.

It's more than one hour a day now.

We can focus on that.

That's a whole Monday.

That's a whole Monday.

Listen, 11 to 4, it flies by.

Before you know it, the day's over.

Now

those are some real Rooster Teeth hours.

See y'all next Monday.

When I first started working at Rooster Teeth, and they're like, oh yeah, we started at 10 and I came in and it was like 9.50.

I'm like, oh, that's good.

I'll get here a couple of minutes early and nobody moseyed until about 10 45 and then it was everyone going yeah so what do you want to do for lunch and i just went what listen is this a cheater was me and jeremy in the office at 7 30 every morning eating drinking energy drinks and not talking to each other for three hours while we wait for anybody else

that would drive me crazy there was a period of time where uh I was in one of those other smaller buildings and there was like a bunch of people in that building and uh but Bernie was in that building and I was in that building and

at like 9:30, 10 in the morning, it'd be just the two of us in the entire building.

We'd walk out into the middle area and be like, what the fuck is happening?

Where's everyone?

It's just you and me here.

It's been 20 years.

Yeah.

I think after that conversation, there wasn't a lot more Bernie.

Bernie was like, get the fuck out of here.

It has been 20 years.

The end.

And these motherfuckers are like, and I'm still the only one here.

All right.

We should talk about the Easy Tiger coffee and cookie and everything.

I finished my coffee all the way, and so has Jeff.

Gus, thoughts?

I'm not a big fan of the Americano here.

I almost, when we were ordering, I almost ordered something different because there is another drink I like more.

Uh-huh.

But the American, it's just a little tough to drink here.

It's not my favorite thing.

You are.

When we...

You finished about a, I would say, a third of it.

So yesterday in the last episode at Quacks, I said that I don't...

I ordered an iced coffee.

Yeah.

And you asked me about it, and I said that I know I don't like their iced Americanos there, so I ordered something different, and I was pleasantly surprised with the iced coffee.

I almost did the same thing here again, but I couldn't do it two in a row.

I went back to the iced Americano.

It's just not my favorite.

And I know it sounds like I'm going to hate on this place because the Americano is not my favorite.

I didn't particularly care for the cookie.

Cookie's just fine.

But I do like Easy Tiger.

They have tons of good baked goods.

They have tons of good coffee drinks.

Just this is not it for me.

Yeah, they also have, and this is a big deal to me, maybe not anybody else, great branding.

Oh, I love it.

They have wonderful merch.

They have wonderful branding.

They have a great

aesthetic.

They put this paper under the cookies with little tigers on it.

It's like the little, they go the extra mile in little ways that I really appreciate.

So, besides, you know, we talked about the big, formerly big risky studio over here that's now a gym.

Yeah.

We also used to have other space over there by the Marquesa.

And I worked out of there for a while during the return to office.

I worked out of that office for a year or two, really.

Yeah, before moving back over to stage four.

And so when we worked over there, I would constantly come to this Easy Tiger and get drinks and pastries and whatnot.

Sausage?

This was where I would come to have a one-on-one with like Alan or Jeff Yetter or

whoever I had to have some sort of a

management style conversation with that nobody that needed to be away from the office in case things got yelly or whatever, you know what I mean?

Had to have a lot of those conversations here.

And maybe that's why

that's the first thing that comes to mind is stressed when I come here I also had three cups of coffee before we came here this morning what yeah just

why are you serious how many three

Jesus Christ why

that's my normal day three cups of coffee in the morning is your normal day

every day normally we had we had it we met at 9 a.m.

yeah did you just wake up walk into the kitchen and go like one two I'll I'll take it easy on the third one right before I get out the door like what the fuck yeah I wake up early and like I said if a coffee maker has a timer by the time I'm up it's ready it's done I now have three quarters of a cup of hot coffee in the morning and I'm good I don't ever finish it I can't Emily always makes me coffee in the morning and I always just get like three quarters and then I'm good I don't even finish it I didn't like if we were meeting at 10 today to do this episode instead of nine I would have had a cup of coffee before I came but not

that's my coffee maker the minimum coffee it makes is four cups okay so and my wife only drinks one so there's another three I'm like oh well I'm not gonna waste the coffee I'm not gonna waste this rain water so I drink it

I'm not wasteful I'm You're a fat cat.

My parents were in town and my mom drinks like Mr.

Coffee, like drip coffee or whatever.

And so I'm not going to sit there and go pour over and all this stuff.

She just wants the cup of coffee so she can put milk and everything in it.

So I actually, I have a Mr.

Coffee from a friend that used to live with us.

So I made a big pot of coffee and she would have one cup.

And then I fucking did all weekend.

I did this shit where I had every day, I just would finish a cup of coffee and go, oh, there's more in the pot.

And then you fill it up and you drink it.

And then you fill it up again.

I just go like, I had three cups of coffee.

This is not good.

That's not, I shouldn't be at that level.

Boom, you're done for the rest of the day.

You're set.

Dude, I was flying.

Every day is a great day.

God damn.

It like, if I really made a, if I had a coffee maker with a timer, it would be dangerous.

The worst is sometimes, leave us a little secret.

Sometimes around one o'clock, I'm like, I go for a little more coffee.

Yeah.

I gotta make four cups, though.

And there we go.

It's a seven cup day.

Uh-huh.

I love that this dude drinks coffee like he's working seven days a week on a one-day a week.

On a one-day one-day a week schedule

I like everything about Easy Tiger except for this cookie, and this is a seven coffee.

Again, it's fine.

The iced coffee is a it's God, it's so I actually think it's on it makes me want to go back and lower my

rating from yesterday, which ultimately doesn't matter because that episode got lost.

I think yesterday was a 7.8, but

upon

today, I think they're both just seven.

Okay, yeah, in the last episode, I said I felt like you were a little generous.

Yeah, I think I was too.

And after after having today's coffee, which is pretty much identical to that, it's like a seven.

This is like a six.

Yeah.

It's fine.

It's whatever.

Yeah, that cookie is kind of wacky.

I love Easy Tiger, though.

Yeah.

Yes.

Well, I like their food.

I really like their food.

Well, I mean,

I also love their cup of coffee, and I have this mug.

And I was going to say, some of the good coffee drinks they have, they have a Mexican mocha, which I thought about ordering today, but I didn't, which is pretty decent.

And they've got a Bengal spice latte, which is also really good.

I almost got the Bengal Spice latte, but I didn't.

They used to make a Bengal spice cookie.

Oh, yeah.

But they discontinued it like four or five years ago.

Maybe during the pandemic, they stopped making it and it's been gone.

It used to be excellent.

It was a go-to, but I wish they were good back.

I really like this place.

Like this particular spot, I'll bring friends in from out of town because it kind of serves all purposes.

Yeah.

Hey, let's get a drink.

Do you want a beer?

Do you want something?

You want like a cocktail thing?

They have a bunch of that.

Hey, do you want a giant pretzel and we can all nibble on it or

an individual sandwich?

Or do you want a cup of coffee and a little pastry?

And it sort of does it all pretty good.

Grab a sourdough roll on your way out.

This is the only bread.

Sourdough loaf.

What did I say?

Sour loaf dough?

Sour loaf dough, right?

Sourdough loaf.

Yeah.

That's like the only bread that I get.

The baguette here is awesome, too.

Oh, my wife loves it.

And she'll just, she'll sit on the couch gremlin style with a point over there and she'll eat the fucking bread, drink a mountain dew.

This is the reason I got into baguette making is I like the baguettes here so much.

Like, I want to do that.

I want to do that.

Oh, I forgot.

Yeah.

Hey, how's pickling going?

That was a one, that was a one in Dunbar.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

That was a one-time thing.

I understand.

I understand.

I'm thinking about getting into pickling in Michigan.

Yeah.

I pickle red onions, but that's about it.

And that's very easy for us.

I love pickled red onions.

It's not my thing.

I don't like pickles.

I like everything else pickled.

Pickled red onions I can eat by the handful.

Weird.

I like pickled carrots.

Pickled are good.

Go to Rudy.

Oh, dude, the Rudy's pickled carrots.

They have them now?

Did you get the potato?

Potato?

No, and I really wish I had.

Is it because you were with your wife?

No, I was with my daughter.

You were with your evil wife.

millie and i were uh we were having like

uh she's going to college tomorrow and so we were having her good all of her goodbye meals she wanted to have barbecue one last time

so we went and it was off yeah

it was oh wait what the bar we got we got moist brisket and it was dry and close and cool pork was really good but yeah it was an off fan that's what we're doing that sucks yeah that really sucks i thought it helps make maybe soften the blow you know it's like this wasn't as good

when you think about this later just go that bucket suck yeah that's right, baby.

But we did it.

It was a good episode.

Hopefully, mine recorded.

Let us know if we should release the two-microphone version.

I've uploaded it.

I'll listen.

It's under four on the drive.

I have this fucking sticky dragon thing.

I need to edit first and I'll get back to work on the on myself.

Don't rush this.

We can pay an editor minor money to just line something up.

I could send this to my friend Brian and give him $100.

He'd be like, I'll do all eight.

Don't worry about it.

I love Brian, man.

We're not going to release any of these till all later done today.

We can release them before, but we just need to figure out how we're editing them and everything.

Yeah, we can release them tomorrow if you want to.

I don't care.

No.

Yeah, I don't want to either.

I'm just giving you the option.

Let us know when you want us to release.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, no.

But let us know if you want the two-microphone version that is near unlistenable.

You don't.

Yeah, you really don't, but there are going to be freaks out there who do.

So, you know, if we can throw a million ads on it, I'm for it.

Maybe instead of your audio, it can be ad audio.

Oh, that's good.

So, every time I talk, it's an advertisement.

This is brilliant.

We're breaking through.

This is a new podcast paradigm.

Yeah, hey, Eric, what do you think about this street?

Hey, with Geico, did you know you can save 50%?

Oh, whoa, Eric, I didn't

love the idea

of a member of a podcast who has just ads.

We should do it.

Man, we're talking about revenue.

Talk about boosting revenue.

This is a paradigm shift.

How many ads do you have in your podcast?

About 130.

Well, we have one guy.

It's fucked up

we have a guy we call ad brad

this guy

he can't get enough better help and purple mattresses he only speaks in ad copy

but hopefully you're enjoying this podcast that means we're about halfway through the season potentially uh we've been having fun making it i think yeah and uh hopefully these uh we're all able to pull and they're pretty good uh any uh final thoughts for the folks at home listening to this very good podcast Just if you're listening to this very good podcast, I hope you're comfortable on a set of a mattress, which you can get in there.

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