Geoff & Eric Talk (More) Music

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Hey, it's another

supplemental

ANMA episode.

It's a Gusless episode of the in-between weeks.

So Gus can go on his vacation.

Where do you think he goes on vacation for two weeks every eight weeks?

Like, that's a sit- that's like, that's like European vacation level there.

He's

like 12 weeks a year.

I agree, but it is Gus, so I think he just probably sits at home.

Yeah, he's probably folding clothes right now.

He's folding, he's folding clothes for two weeks.

He's, he won't tell us, but he's playing World of Warcraft.

He is, he's just doing all the stuff that he wanted to do a long time ago.

Maybe he's going online Rice University, kind of doing, you know, at his own pace.

He's secretly going back to get his degree.

And then one day, you're just going to, you're going to make a college joke about him dropping it.

And he's like, what are you talking about?

I have my MBA.

And you're like, shut up.

And he's like, no, I secretly got it five years ago.

I never told you.

That's a very gust thing to do.

That's

it's a very gust thing to do.

And it seems like you don't need it if you start a company that's gone on for 20 years and you're a pilot.

That doesn't seem like you probably need a college degree as well.

Dude, this fucking company, let me tell you, I joined the army for a myriad of reasons when I was 17, right?

One of them.

I won't even say it was the main one, but one of them was for college money, right?

The

GI bill, they call it the Army, the GI bill.

And i went when i joined the army you could get the gi bill it was sixteen thousand dollars for college that's how low it was when i was this is how long ago it was like it's like i think it was like 50 or 60 last time i saw it uh it's way higher uh but so it also you had like 10 years to use it after you got out of the military or it expired i think that has changed now too and it's like you have it in perpetuity or some shit But so one of the major reasons I joined the military was for that college fund.

And then I was in the army for five years, got out, started Rooster Teeth almost immediately.

10 years later,

going back to college was the last thing on earth I wanted to do at like 30 set, 33 when that money was running out.

And so I basically joined the army for college money that I let expire and never used because of Rooster Teeth.

But imagine that you're Gus and you can secretly go to college and then throw it in everyone's face.

Dude, you and I should find a, we should get degrees from online secret university.

This is such a good idea.

And then we'll just have them in our pocket for whenever, whenever it comes up.

And then when he thinks he's got us, boom.

I already have a degree.

Do I need to do this?

Yeah, I got a PhD in onlineology.

Okay.

I mean, I have, I have like, I have like a bachelor's.

Oh, yeah.

You went to college.

I didn't.

See, I don't, I, well, see, you've already got that.

You're already ahead of the game here, but you don't have your master's.

No, they they're not.

You don't have your master's from Secret Internet College.

It's true.

I should get a master's from Secret Internet College.

This is a good idea.

And now we have something to throw at Gus, which is really all we're looking for, I think.

I think that's what the show is,

which is pretty cool.

You just have to be ready for when Gus is pithy.

It's like you just have to have bullets in the chamber.

You don't have to show him the gun or flex it.

You just have to be ready for when he throws out his little gussism or his little like his little shitty gus comment you can go like well as a matter of fact i have this revolver full of uh full of uh comedy bullets that i'm going to unload on you right now i'm gonna is that is that how you tell him that stuff too i have a revolver full of comedy bullets i'm gonna unload in you

Might be the first time I've ever phrased it that way, but I feel like it's appropriate.

That's pretty special.

That's exciting.

Well, we're on a two-week quote-unquote break from going to get coffee and do an episode of the Anma podcast, but that doesn't mean that we want to prevent you from having a new something to listen to while you're doing dishes this week.

So we are recording

myself and Jeff, a supplemental Anma episode where I think we were both, I don't know about excited to talk about music on this one, but I definitely have a bunch of stuff that I want to kind of throw at you and see if you've been listening to this stuff and kind of give recommendations.

Is there anything that you've been listening to or stuff that's been like top of mind for you?

Yeah, I've been kind of all over the map with music lately.

Like I've been listening to a ton of music, but not in any kind of way that makes sense thematically.

And so I had a, I prepared a file last time we did one of these and I only talked about maybe a third of the music.

Yeah.

So I pulled that back up and I added some new stuff in.

The degree of difficulty I'm dealing with is I can't remember exactly what we talked about last time, and I didn't pull it out after we talked about it.

So it's possible I may revisit a song or two.

I apologize.

It just means I'm still listening to that song.

That's good.

That's good.

I do.

Okay.

But yeah, you want to lead it off?

Yeah.

So

one that I actually threw at you, and I think I brought up on the show

a couple of weeks ago, I think at this point, is

the Bobby Lee's and their album Six

suit.

That has been like heavy rotation for me over like the last couple of weeks.

It's an album that came out in 2020, but it has

it's just that wheelhouse of music that I really like that is,

I would call a band's first album where they're still learning how to play their instruments.

And

it's like everything that I liked about, and I'm not comparing them to the strokes because they do not sound like the strokes, but it's everything.

This this album sounds like everything that I liked about the strokes first album where it was a bunch of guys trying

to make

a band and putting together something that shouldn't hit me kind of like sonically the way that it does but I fucking love it and and that's the way skin suit sounds also their uh The ninth song on the album, Drive, is just, I think I told you that it sounds like if Need for Speed was still a franchise, that would be the theme song from it.

It's so

fucking, oh, it just sounds so fucking cool, and everything's distorted, and everything's ugly, and the band is ugly, and it's just ugly.

And I love that kind of shit.

I love affected vocals and just

slammed through distorted instruments.

It's fucking, it sounds like it was recorded in a old

gas station.

It's fucking awesome.

I love it.

I love it.

I added it, but just so you know,

I just wrote, I'm in Spotify.

I just typed drive, Bobby.

Yeah.

Figured that would pull it up.

There's a Bobby McFerrin song called Drive.

What?

Be very careful.

Okay, well, I'm not.

I'm not talking about that.

He's probably bebopping and scatting all over that one.

You know, he is.

Oh, it's, you, you know, he's saying some word.

Up, go, win, full, uh, drive.

Like, that's not what this sounds like.

What is it not to do?

yeah yeah yeah take that bobby mcferron

you were fucking getting them jeff

i just looked it up the album it's on is as old as i am except on 86.

that's awesome oh

man

So I will start off my recommendation with, you know, last time time we talked, I was deep, deep, deep into like 70s African rock and electronic music, of which I still am.

And I'm a little, and I'm still listening to a lot of it, but

I'm not going to mention any of that stuff because I can't remember what I did or didn't listen to.

But

through that, somehow I discovered, and this is not African music at all, but through listening to them.

And through recommendations from a friend, I discovered, I don't know if you ever heard of Ted Hawkins.

No, I don't think so.

It's

nothing like, he just, he's a dude who,

I think it's because I was like watching documentaries from like and trying to read more.

And I just ended up on this documentary about Ted Hawkins.

But

he was this dude who grew up in Mississippi and played acoustic guitar and sang wrote songs.

and eventually made it his way out to like was just fighting through the six through the 60s and the 70s trying like just almost making it almost getting there and getting

close and then and just getting door slammed in his face.

Or, like, one time he recorded an album, it took a decade for it to come out.

Wow.

After he recorded it.

Yeah.

He wrote an album, or he put out an album in the early 80s called Watch Your Step that is one of the best albums of all time.

But everybody on earth should stop and listen to the song Sorry You're Sick by Ted Hawkins.

This guy, and then go watch a documentary about him.

This guy's life, he ended up living in California and raising a family, and he did it by playing his music on the Venice Beach Boardwalk.

Wow.

Like busking, essentially.

Wow.

And he did that for over, I don't know, like 15 or 20 years.

Just got up every day and took the bus down and would play music on the Venice boardwalk for change.

And then

at some point, like the dude who signed Nirvana saw him and was like, I got to sign this guy.

And then he kind of became a huge...

He kind of became an it guy for a little bit, had a little bit of a resurgence and finally started making some money and was able to like take care of his family and finally get some of the the recognition he deserved wow and then he uh he died a couple i think in 2014 but uh he it's kind of like soul like like uh acoustic i don't know how to describe it like folk music soul music but uh it's unique it's unlike anything like structurally song structurally it's it's just very

unique, I guess is the only descriptor I can have for it.

It's just, it's like, it's unlike any other music I've really heard.

It's very familiar, very adjacent.

But when you hear it, it's like oh, he's got his own little thing and it's really raw and really emotional and if that song sorry you're sick doesn't fuck you up a little bit uh and get like just get in you I'll be surprised.

Damn.

That's fucking cool.

I got to listen to that.

Yeah, he also I'm just going to throw two in there because my other favorite song by him is called Baby and that's a little bit It's a little more upbeat that song, but they're both just like phenomenal.

Huh.

Well, that's fucking cool.

I really like that.

That's like...

Thanks, man.

i'm gonna listen to that

so last time i was like obsessed with african rock music this time i'm just obsessed with ted hawkins i've been listening to a lot of just a lot of ted hawkins and then like anything that gets recommended that's adjacent to him wow that's cool um

i i like

the stuff that i've been listening to like i'm definitely gonna listen to Ted Hawkins like everything you just said is like fuck man I gotta check that out now like I'm just like making a list based on everything we did here Um,

uh, some stuff I've been listening to is actually, well, local isn't the right word at this point, but it's uh San Diego stuff that uh I listen to a lot, even now.

But uh, two bands that I really recommend.

Joy is a band from San Diego that's very

like psychic, psychedelic rock, I guess, is what you could call it.

It's uh

it uh, I think members of like

Earthless and

some other bands and they're it's very

sounds like riding a motorcycle and taking acid and just being outside.

It's fucking it's cool.

The problem is

when you search

Joy Band,

good fucking luck.

There's a lot of there's a lot of female artists named Joy.

Dude, it's so it's the thing that I always have to search when I need to look for them because I don't even think they're a band anymore.

Maybe they are, but I don't think so.

I have to search joy band San Diego, but the album that I recommend is called Ride Along.

It is,

it's great.

I have it on vinyl.

It's a really fantastic album.

It's just, it's a pretty straightforward rock album.

It's not asking too much of you, but it's not.

I don't think it's a waste of anyone's time.

It's just sort of loud and cool, but without being

sort of macho and aggressive.

It just, it's very fucking cool.

Uh, and they're on Spotify?

Uh, I, I, if they're not on Spotify, they're on Apple Music, but uh, okay, I'll look for them on Apple Music.

I'm having trouble finding them on Spotify.

Yeah, good, yeah, good fucking luck.

Uh, uh, Ride Along and Under the Spell of Joy.

Uh, that is those are the two albums that I would recommend.

Another band that actually I think just put this up recently, but it's from like 2004, 2003.

It's a band called Reeve Oliver, r-e-e-v-e o-l-i-v-e-r reeve oliver

they had an album a self-titled album that came out in 2004 they had a song called i want burns that was had some radio play and i think they toured sort of like warp tour adjacent stuff

that would be uh like at that time uh they were just a local band that won some san diego music awards stuff and there was a guy in the band named oh who's from a

another band called Fluff that he recently passed, I think not too, too long ago.

And that's really a bummer.

But the other guy, Sean O'Donnell and Brad Davis,

are like staples in like the San Diego kind of overall scene.

So

Reeve Oliver, self-titled, is a really great album, but Touchtone Inferno is...

sort of like their second album that has a lot of the same tracks or i guess a lot of like the same touches from the the first album i don't know that everyone's gonna like it but when i put it on it just i it sounds like 2004 and turning on the radio in san diego so i i really really love that i added i want burns yeah i'm gonna add a cheat me softly that's there you go there's a couple of couple of good songs i want burns i think is just i don't know that it's i don't know that it's up your alley at all it is pretty it's pretty poppy for some altern like alternative rock but it is, man, it just sounds great.

I love the sound of it.

I like pretty much everything now that I'm older.

Now that I've learned not to be such a bitch about music.

All right, what else?

What else you got?

All right, I'm going to go in a different direction.

And I don't know.

This is a song.

I think I probably, I don't even know.

Most, a lot of the music I get comes from Burndog and Antonio playing trucks.

This might have come from that.

I don't know anything about it.

I just, it's a song that's in my playlist.

I don't know where I put it from.

It's a band called Bleach.

And I, the, the song name is all Asian characters.

So I, it may be Japanese.

I can't tell.

Huh.

Um, but it's just like crazy hardcore.

Like, I don't even know.

It's like just lots of screaming and very fast hardcore.

I sent it to you in Discord just because I was like, yeah,

I found it here.

They are a bleach, a Japanese all-female noise rock trio from Okinawa, Japan.

Whoa.

There you go.

That's fine.

I don't remember where I picked it up, but it's fucking awesome.

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And in that same vein,

I will list a song that I've been a fan of from a band that I was a fan of for a long time.

Well, if they weren't a band for a very long time, but while they were a band, it was a band called American Nightmare, a hardcore band from the early 2000s.

They actually had to change their name because there was another American Nightmare.

And so they ended up having to change their name to Give Up the Ghost.

And I don't know what ever happened to him.

They did a reunion tour, I know, but there's a song called Protest Song 0-0

and off their year one album.

And that is like the

most.

It's like a breakup song about it's just like the most angry breakup song you'll ever hear.

And I uh

really, really, really good.

Like early 2000s

screamy hardcore.

Protest Song Zero Zero.

Great screams in that song.

That's fucking...

See, now this is like getting way out there.

That's fucking cool.

It's exactly, it's exactly what I'm looking for to add.

That's just like way out of left field.

I'm pretty all over the map with like with music, like I was saying these days.

That's cool.

That's good.

That's great, though.

I have been listening to a friend's band, this band called

Razor Knights.

My friend Andrew, who is,

he was my mechanic barber Masseuse.

He's also the drummer for a band called Razor Knights, R-A-Z-O-R,

N-I-G-H-T-S.

They have an EP.

They have a few EPs out, but their latest one from late last year is called Rock and Roll Dracula.

They are

fucking

awesome.

Devil's Blood is such a good song.

We Don't Care is such a good song.

They have so many

great fucking songs.

They are members or ex-members.

So my friend's on drums.

My friend Andrew's on drums.

And then it's ex-members of a band called Makeout Boys, which was a San Diego LA band.

Makeout Boys, I always thought it was such a cool name.

And when

I talked to my friend, the singer,

Mario, I'm like, why?

And he's like, you know, Kiss name their band Kiss.

You kind of just name something whatever you want, and it can be fucking tough.

It doesn't matter what it's called.

And I'm like, that's cool because the band that he was in before that was called multiple stab wounds so yeah that's really it's really going left right and center but um i i really recommend uh

if people can go give a listen to razor nights rock and roll dracula that ep is so good but anything that you can find they have uh city life is a really good one and then uh they have a couple of full albums as well uh i like the stuff they're doing and the stuff they play live is so, like, what a blast.

I love their shit so, so, so, so much.

Uh, I can't recommend it enough.

Really, really

is it anything like that 30 rock uh Tracy Morgan song, Werewolf Bar Mitzvah?

No, Rock and Roll Dracula is unfortunately nothing like Werewolf Bar Mitzvah.

Um,

yeah, you know what?

I'll let them know and then maybe they can like rework it a little bit and uh we just gotta see where it goes from there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep, all right.

I added, uh, I added those songs.

Hell yeah,

hell yeah.

Listen to them.

Let me know what you think.

Because uh, okay, yeah, it's good, like, real straight again, real straightforward, rock and roll.

And it's uh, it's got like are they from San Diego?

They are, yeah, yeah, they're a San Diego band.

I've seen them play live so many times.

They play at Tower Bar a lot, and I love Tower Bar.

So, how is the San Diego scene still pretty happening?

Because they know, I thought they owned the early to mid-2000s.

They had, so that's all late 90s.

Yes, that's that was the big, so San Diego was supposed to be the next Seattle.

That's all you hear about if you hang out with people who were in the scene in 1994 in San Diego is how they were going to be the next Seattle.

And then it was really just Rocket from the Crypt.

And that was as big as it ever got.

It's not, everyone just goes to L.A.

Like you play, you play stuff in San Diego, and then you go up to L.A.

Like, that's just,

that's it.

That's just how it works.

It's how it happens.

It's a bummer, but it's, it's, especially now, it, it's not really, it was really thriving in like kind of like that, like those like late 90s, early 2000s.

And then

it all just sort of went to Los Angeles.

And then that was, that was it.

So really a bummer to kind of like see that scene out.

There's a documentary about the San Diego scene in the 90s that I actually just bought on Blu-ray and I haven't watched yet

that I'm excited about.

It's a lot of like interviews from guys that were

kind of around in that time and just talking about like, we all felt like this was going to be the thing.

We all felt like this was going to be the fucking thing.

And I think it's called It's going to Blow.

And it just, and it never did.

Do you think you'll be in any of the concert footage?

No, not from that time.

I was too young.

Like when it was happening, like when, I'll be just throwing that there, like when no knife was around.

And it was, you know, when you talked about seeing Blink 182, they were sort of like

they popped off, but you know, to say that they were like part of like that part of like that San Diego scene, I think does that part of the scene sort of a disservice.

Um, yeah, because it was a very different sound kind of coming out of San Diego.

It was a lot of that post-hardcore

really

drive-like Jehu type of shit.

And then, you know, and then Blink182 sort of happened to the side of it and went skyrocketed.

So

I'm not in any of that stuff.

I was just way, way, way, way too young.

In 1996, I was 10.

So I wasn't going to no-knife shows.

I forget there's a bit of an age difference.

Just to ask.

I just asked because I recently did a so-al-right episode on the band Jawbreaker.

It was a big fan.

Oh, cool.

Hell yeah.

I'm a big fan of Jawbreaker.

I actually did it on, I call it Jawbreaker three ways, and I did a bit on the band, a bit on the movie, and then a bit on the candy.

Candy.

That's pretty good.

I like that.

I contrasted them all.

But

something that I hadn't considered, and Jawbreaker is a band that I've absolutely fucking loved when I was younger.

And I watched the documentary that came out a few years ago just to get, just to fill out my history to be ready for the doc, to be able to speak about them intelligently in the episode, right?

Right.

And it opens up and there's about maybe five or six minutes in, they start showing concert footage from a show at emo's i was at in 1994 no way and i'm not in the concert i'm not in the concert footage or anything right i didn't see myself in it or anything it's just real brief but i'll be honest with you eric it i just

i just burst out into tears and started crying and i was like so overwhelmed and i didn't quite understand it took me a while to figure it out i just it never crossed my mind

because i lived in a pre-internet world back then kind of you you know, I just never crossed my mind that there's potentially footage out there of things that I experienced at a young age, you know, stuff that's lost to time for me.

And being able to just see the room I was in the night I was there like so clearly after not thinking about it, honestly, for probably 25 years, it was just like emotionally wild.

And it really opened.

It makes me want to watch every old documentary from every old band that I ever loved, just in the off chance that I could not even see myself.

I don't want to see myself.

I just want to be able able to see the place I was at the time I was there again at 18 years old or 19 years old.

Man, it was like, it was wild how like emotionally impactful it was.

It was really neat.

That's so it.

I have

that partially with

I would go to

pro wrestling shows in like 2004.

And I was 18

and I would drive up to LA with my friend Brian.

We go to this Jewish community center, and we would go to Pro Wrestling Gorilla.

And it was us and maybe 90, 100 other people, maybe.

But it is such a loted thing from a lotta time in terms of like in like that scope of like what wrestling sort of became, like what it was, and everything like that.

That when I see old foot people post GIFs or footage from like, yo, check this out.

This is from like June of 2004.

And it's like these guys who are on TV and they're headlining WrestleMania and all like this stuff or whatever.

And

it's like, oh, I was there.

And then I go back and watch that show and I'm like, oh, fuck, I remember this.

And there's something not about looking for yourself, but like watching it and going, man, I fucking, I was there and I remember.

Yes.

It's like, it's getting to watch a memory you didn't think you would get to experience again in like Technicolor, right?

Yeah.

Exactly.

And it's like, this may sound so dumb to people that are a little bit younger that are listening to this because every second of history is of the world is recorded right now.

And it's not rare to be able to turn on the TV or look on YouTube and see something from five years ago that you were at or there.

But that was not the way the world worked when I was growing up.

And so, and I just, you just don't, I don't know.

I just don't think I hadn't thought about that place in time and my place in it in so long and getting to see it again.

It's like, much like your wrestling thing.

It's like, it's just fucking, it's an amazing sense of nostalgia

in all the best ways.

I totally agree.

I think it's really cool to find that stuff and

see it without necessarily seeking it out, kind of like finding it and going, Oh, fuck.

Oh, I

like not just, oh, I remember this from this point of view, but I remember this from my point of view.

Like, I remember what this was.

It's so strange.

It's just a weird feeling.

Um,

before cell phones, before digital cameras, before you know, yeah, it's uh

crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.

It's weird.

Uh, we got a few minutes left.

Anything else you want to throw at?

I know.

Can you?

Yeah, let me, let me combine some stuff.

Uh,

so I'm going to combine Shady Grove by Doc Watson and Six More Miles to the Graveyard by Hank Williams.

Uh, I've been listening to both of those songs.

They're kind of similar.

I really, really, really love Doc Watson.

I'm okay with Hank Williams, but I fell into this song and I just fucking love this specific song but uh yeah i would listen to both of those i'd listen to them together uh i'd listen to anything by doc watson anything by doc watson but this is a great song well are you you're just not like uh not much of a

hank guy or what he's okay i just don't know him as well um

uh i know some of his stuff you know but like i'd never heard the six more six more miles to the graveyard song yeah i think i like i like like i like doc watson a little bit more because he's a little more bluegrass maybe

um and i think i respond respond to that a little bit more than like just straight old country.

But those are both just awesome songs.

And I've been had them both on in my playlist

for a while now.

So that's my two.

Yeah, I like, I think Hank is just so fucking good.

It's just so much that is so good.

It's one of those things where I grew up in the era of Hank Jr., right?

Oh, yeah.

Yep.

That's real different.

That's real different.

Yeah.

And then Hank III has also been.

And it's one of those things where it's like, nothing against those dudes, but you just get a little sick of hearing about them.

And it kind of takes a little bit of the magic away from the OG, I guess, at times.

You know what I mean?

You just get fatigued by the name.

I totally understand that.

And the antics of other, you know, of relatives.

Completely, completely get it.

And

I think that if you...

If you like Six More Miles of the Graveyard, you should check out Wealth Won't Save Your Soul.

Wealth Won't Won't Save Your Soul.

I don't know that it's going to be the same.

I don't think it's going to grab you the same way, but

I think that

it's very good.

I think it's very good.

I'm adding it right now.

I think it's a great Hank song.

My

last

two that I've been listening to that I'll throw out there are

a friend recommended an album to me called The Return to Form Black Magic Party by Pop Levi.

And it is like a guy heard T-Rex and then went, Well, fuck, man, I want to do that.

And so he did.

Very glam rock.

It's what I call like strutting music.

Like you put it on and it's just strut.

It uh Sugar Assault Me Now is the

first song on the album, and I think it just kicks off the whole thing.

And you go, I'm fucking great.

It is pop.

It's sort of like this pop glam,

really glossy

from

the mid-2000s, I think, when people were

going, man, David Bowie was like really doing it.

And it's like, yeah, you might be late to that one.

Yeah.

And then find, you know, and then listening more and going, like, wow, T-Rex was really good.

And it's like, yeah, Mark Boland was fucking great, man.

Mark Boland, afraid to fly, so he drove everywhere, died in a car accident.

I didn't bummer that.

Bummer for T-Rex.

Great band.

I think T-Rex is probably one of my favorite bands of all time.

So that's probably the draw there for Pop Levi.

And then another band that I really like, this album called Rat Saw God.

It's a band called Wednesday.

It has

trying to think of how to describe the sound because if you listen to the first track on the album and then like the sixth track on the album, shockingly different.

It starts this, the first song is called Hot Rotten Grass Smell, and it sounds like, it sounds like they've been listening to a lot of the smashing pumpkins.

It just, it's a, it's a band that's sort of like, oh, fuck you, that just really sounds very smashing pumpkins heavy.

And then you get deeper in the album, and it is this alt-country that I was not anticipating.

I grabbed it, like, I started listening to it because of that first track.

Uh, because I thought, I'm like, oh, fuck you, man.

I like that smashing pumpkin sound, I think, is so cool.

And then I listened to the rest of the album, and it blew me away how much I enjoyed it.

Uh,

it is

this sort of blue, bluegrass isn't maybe the right term, but like this alt-country, a little bit steel guitar

that, man, I just really, really, really enjoyed.

And the album came out, I think,

last year.

Rat Saw God by Wednesday is

three songs.

The first song and then like two from the middle.

Yeah.

Check them out because

I think that

the first track and the rest of the album,

they do not go together, but it doesn't matter that it's all so good

that I really, I just really, really, really enjoy it.

So it's a lot of fun.

I thought for a second you were talking about the band Death on Wednesday,

but you were not.

You were talking about the band Wednesday.

But Death on Wednesday was a good band too, if you ever listen to the song Demons by them, if you want to listen to what it would sound like if Morrissey played hardcore.

Ah, finally.

My question's answered.

Also, I've just been listening to Steely Dan.

That's all I listen to anyway.

Hell yeah, dude.

If I'm ever like, and Jim Crochy, if I ever go like, oh, I don't know what I want to listen to, it's, those are kind of like the defaults.

Easy.

Can I tell you something crazy I just learned about Steely Dan?

And maybe we can end on this because I know we have to get here.

Yeah.

I just learned that in college up at Bard University,

Chevy Chase, before he worked at SNL, was a drummer in a band with those two dudes.

And when he left to go to New New York to pursue comedy, they renamed the band Steely Dan.

So Chevy Chase was the original drummer essentially in Steely Dan.

Yeah, I don't think he would have been the drummer for very long in Steely Dan.

Steely Dan sort of like

were notorious for, okay, and we're going to do 125 takes because we need this to be like

jazz perfect.

And I think that was, you know, Walter Becker and Donald Fagan were just very much those guys.

But I think that Chevy Chase was probably jamming with them and then was like, yeah, man, he was almost in Steely Dan if they would have kept going.

Fucking wild.

Wild, wild, wild.

I think that's great.

He also, I read, he got kicked out of Bard University, which is why he moved to New York, because he was keeping a live cow in his dorm room.

Boy, that sounds

very 70s college shenanigans, huh?

What a weird guy.

Yeah.

What a weird, strange guy.

Well,

I think that might do it for this episode, non-episode, non-canon.

I think Gus calls them non-canon episodes of

Anma.

But if you want more Anma, we'll have more for you next week, maybe something out and about a little bit different.

And then in two weeks, we'll be back with another eight episodes of Anma, one every week coming your way where we're reviewing hamburgers.

We're reviewing, I think, probably brisket.

I think, you know, there's just a lot going on.

So check it out.

It is a lot going on.

And I know that Gus is there and that can be a bit of a detractor for some of you.

But if you can make it through those eight episodes, there'll be another two that are just Eric and I.

Yeah.

So if you can, if you can just stomach those eight episodes and let some friends know about it too, see if they can stomach it.

See if they can stomach it as well.

But you can follow us at Anma Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter.

R slash Anma Podcast is the subreddit we don't run.

And

anarchymeanything.com is our website where you can, hang on, let me check.

Hang on.

The guest book is still under maintenance.

However, the latest episode is up and I'm checking right now as of this recording.

Gus has put up a link to buy a shirt,

the trailers for Go, Run Lola, Run and Rushmore, and pictures of the LA Times story of the Kickapoo tribe under the bridge in Eagle Pass.

Dude,

wild, those photos.

Yep.

So head on over to anarchymeanything.com and we'll see if we can get that guest book fixed.

So that way you can leave a couple comments for us.

Let us know how you're feeling.

Maybe

we can get Gus to embed like a MIDI from one of these songs.

Oh, that's a good idea.

Yeah, that's definitely.

Yeah, we should definitely see if he can get a MIDI from

a Hank Williams song.

That'll be great.

Yeah, that'd be great.

I'm sure they definitely made a MIDI of that at some point.

Yep.

Well, thanks for listening, Jeff.

Any wise words or kind things to leave us off with?

No.

Put me on the spot there.

Uh, hold on.

Uh, yes, spay and neuter your pets.

Um,

be sure if it's if you're in an area where it freezes, you're gonna want to uh, you're gonna want to cover those faucets.

Uh, also, your plants gonna want to cover those plants.

Don't use a lot of people want to use like heavy blankets, towels, that kind of thing.

I mean, it is a barrier, it is a protection, but you want something that can breathe a little bit too.

So, you might want to get some like netting from your Home Depot or your Lowe's, your true value hardware, your local place.

So, you're going to want to do that.

Always check the air pressure in your tires.

A lot of people don't think to do that.

Good smart.

You want to make sure you're driving on appropriately inflated tires.

And, you know, be sure to change your batteries often in all of your smoke detectors.

And a lot of people don't do this, but if you change one battery on a smoke detector, change them all.

That way

they're all at the same time.

That's it.

That way you don't chase down chirps every three weeks for the rest of your life.

And be sure to sunscreen.

Wear lots of sunscreen.

Bye.