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Hey, welcome to episode 68.

Nice.

Anva.

Nope.

No.

Getting there.

It's almost nice.

Alma.

It's almost.

I don't know what you're saying.

Hey, hey, 68.

No, you won.

Yes.

Yeah.

Jeff, stop high-fiving me.

68 is the best.

All right, I'll put my hand to you.

Stop high-fiving him.

Jesus Christ.

Good morning, Gus.

Good morning, Eric.

The last time we were at Once Over Coffee, which was a lovely spot.

Yeah.

It was a lovely spot.

Yeah, we talked about Amazing Race, Survive Block Island, Texas Chili Parlor, and it's cold food.

Cool cold food.

They used the wrong chili.

They went C-H-I-L-L-Y.

Oh, they said, oh,

they said, how long have you been sitting on that, Jeff?

I just thought it right out.

It was the cook's cook's first day.

But I thought this was Texas Chili Parlor.

Oh, Gus went home.

Gus went home and he was like Marge in that episode.

It was like 12 hours.

Shut up.

Shut up, Becky.

Just shut up.

That would have been sweet.

We also talked about used cars and license renewals.

We saw Gus's picture for his license.

So a little peek behind the curtain.

I was on a pre-tape episode of Rooster Teeth Podcast that I think is coming out January 8th.

And I show the license

on that podcast.

So this episode, that episode will come out a couple weeks after you're listening to this.

So go

obviously go watch RTP, but I'm on the January, I believe it's the January 8th episode or 8th or 9th, and I show the license.

You guys are definitely going to want to see it.

It was, I mean,

put it in your calendar, January 8th, whenever the fuck that thing comes out.

Do not miss.

Jeff saw it and he just went, you won.

Well, it's because I've made a career.

I'm in a career.

I've made my entire life, I've tried to get bad or funny or silly driver's license photos to the point where, like, especially before, you know, like in my early days when I was a little bit more belligerent, I would be like,

and the lady'd go, like, she'd take the photo and she'd go, not good enough.

And we would go, she'd be like, sir, you're going to have to take a real photo sooner or later.

And I'd be like, I am.

And I'd see like how far I could push it.

Do you remember that old internet video we used to watch?

So good.

There were these dudes on the, I'm going to say like South Carolina or somewhere.

And they tried to outdo outdo each other with ridiculous driver's license photos.

And they would like shave the top of their head.

They would give themselves like a giant Unibrow, like big buck teeth.

Like when he says give themselves a giant Unibrow, he means like with spray paint.

Like with spray paint.

Like what we did on Does It Do with My Eyebrows.

Like increasingly hilarious stuff.

Like paint their face beat red and be like, sorry, I just got a sunburn.

And then

they would come back and the whole video would be them showing it in the car.

Yeah.

Like the most ridiculous.

It got approved and they're like showing the license with the fucked up photo and i've always wanted to achieve their level of greatness but you you you did it and i don't think you were trying i was not trying i was i was very happy when i saw it i was very happy gus that's a bad photo so bad that is a bad photo yeah it's objectively bad it like i just don't

It's bad in a way where what you guys are talking about, where it's like, oh, I like did this thing and I shaved my head or whatever.

It's bad in a way where someone would have that kind of photo, but not mean for it to be like you did it and you're like, ah, that's funny.

Whatever.

Somebody in the world just has photos that are similar to that, and that's just how they look.

And they're just like, and they're just like, yeah, that's how I look in pictures.

What do you mean to do?

I'll be able to not look like myself.

It's so bad.

I'm going to look like somebody else.

I look like somebody else.

I'd be somebody else.

Oh, man.

Anyway, that made up for the two hours of waiting in the damn view to get a fucking garbage photo.

Today was a burger episode.

Yes.

So we've been doing coffee, but we're on a little burger cake right now.

How many burger episodes have we done?

Only at number four.

This is like number four or five or five.

Maybe because we've done, what have we done?

We've done Hilbert's.

Hilbert's Pool Burger Casino.

Dance.

Dance.

Oh, Casino was the first one.

Yeah.

That might be it.

I think this is five.

This might be the fifth.

Perfect.

We went to,

you know, we'll get into the specifics of the burger itself later, but we went to, what was a place called 5280?

5280 Burger Bar.

We went to a place we have never been to before.

None of us.

You had heard about this place.

You suggested it.

I heard about it on Reddit.

It's up a far west.

It's actually very close to the epoch we did with, I think, Becca.

Becca, yeah.

Yeah, that episode.

So it's like within

spitting range of that.

It's like in the parking lot of the H-E B up.

Of Secret H-E B.

Yeah.

I had read about it on I saw it on Reddit because it got broken into again, I think.

And they were were like, if people, there were people in the threads that are like, everybody should go out and support these guys.

It's a sweet old man who owns the place.

I might be making that up, but I remember something like that.

And they're trying really hard, and it's really good.

They have one of the best burgers in town, and I just don't think enough people know about it.

And so there was such positive commentary about them in the thread, about them being robbed, that I thought we should go and support them and give it a shot.

We'll get into the burgers and everything, but I was just curious.

Like, I intentionally not asked all of the details from you about it because I wanted to find out your on my own.

I like like doing the burger episodes we just do them a little later in the day and all that stuff but early is the new late so we got to start doing earlier stuff early is the new late yeah I love that shirt uh go check it out store.ristith.com I was wearing that last episode I forgot to bring it up yeah the whole time we were at lunch you guys were talking about the amount of hours Gordon Ramsey has been on TV because they were they were they were they had like a bunch of TVs in the in the restaurant.

They were also in season seven of Hell's Kitchen.

Yeah.

It was like a young Gordon Ramsey.

It was like shocking to see.

Yeah, he looked like, I mean, he was probably 38 in that, but he looked like he's about 22.

It was really cool.

Tricky compared to how he looks now.

Yeah.

And then we were just discussing how many fucking shows.

All right, let's see if we can run down.

We're just going to do the American shows that we know of.

I know that he has, for almost every show we mention, there's a British version that's better and happened first.

I get that.

But we got Hell's Kitchen.

We got Kitchen Nightmares.

We have Master Chef.

We have Master Chef Jr.

We have Top Next Level Chef.

We have 24 Hours to Hell and Back.

We have

that's the hotel one.

No, no, no, no, that's the other Hotel Hell.

Hotel Hell was the other one.

The 24 Hours to Hell and Back, whatever the fuck, or 44 Hours.

It's just to Hell and Back, yeah, to Bell and Back.

And then I feel like I'm missing one.

That's seven, and you're right.

I don't know what the other one would be, but I feel like we are missing one.

We're missing

Kitchen Nightmare.

Do we say Kitchen Nightmares?

Yeah.

He also had like a National Geographic traveling show.

Yes, Gordon Ramsey's Uncharted.

Yeah.

Or whatever that was.

He's had other little like six-episode runs on, yeah, like on other networks.

But for his like

13 to 20 episode season shows, there's like at least, I do think we're missing one.

Yeah.

But that's seven we just named.

Eight if you count the national geographic.

Eight if you count the national geographic.

And I think I'm watching the most recent season of Hell's Kitchen.

It is,

we were talking about this too.

They're so long in the tooth, they have to do dumb themed seasons.

Like the most recent

MasterChef was United Tastes of America.

I'll salute that flag.

And this one is this seasons of

Hell's Kitchen is the American dream.

And so clearly somebody at Fox got the mandate, like pump America a little bit, you know?

And Gordon Ramsey is like, looking British, super British, but whatever.

Gordon Ramsey has three video games.

He does?

Are you serious?

Hell's Kitchen the Game, Gordon Ramsey Dash.

And Gordon Ramsey Chef Boy.

Please tell me Gordon Ramsey Dash is a kart racer with Gordon Ramsey in it.

Gordon Ramsey Dash, 2016 mobile app video game featuring voice work from celebrity chef Gordon Ramsey.

Are any of those console games or are all mobile games?

It looks like

Gordon Ramsey Dash and Gordon Ramsey Chef Blast are mobile games,

but Hell's Kitchen the Game is for Nintendo DS, Nintendo Wii, Microsoft Windows, and Mac OS.

We should do a Let's Play in that or a regulation gameplay in that.

Do you want to, Gus, you want to be on with us for that?

Do you want to be a regulation guest on the regulation game?

Regulators mount up.

I love it.

We've got to play that game.

Um, please, I'm all here.

I'm here for the boys.

But they've all got like 10, 15, 20.

Some of the new ones, next level chef's only got two seasons, right?

But Hell's Kitchen, Kitchen Nightmares, those have Master Chef have dozens of seasons.

Yeah, Kitchen Nightmares, I think this season, you know, they just wrapped up the current season.

I think it had been off the air for like eight or nine years.

Like, it didn't matter.

Yes, they brought it back and they brought it back.

Yeah, see, they've been doing like 24 hours to Hell and Back, Hotel Hell, like some of these other shows have popped up in the meantime.

They replaced it, it, and then now they've this season of Kitchenheimers was all like in New Jersey and New York.

I didn't see any of it.

It was all like within driving distance of each other.

I tend to watch Master Chef and Hell's Kitchen, and that's about it.

That's not true.

I watch Next Level Chef.

I actually, I also don't really like any of them.

It's one of those things that, like, I don't know what hold Gordon Ramsey has over me.

It's like me and the Squid Game Reality Show.

Yeah, if he puts on, if he's on, like, if I see him on Hulu, I tend to click on it.

It's just like whether I want to watch it or not.

It's like the most acceptable amount of background content I can put on in my house.

I think I mentioned this months ago on RT podcast.

I don't think I've ever mentioned it on this podcast, but there's a whole

series of commercials and a marketing push.

I believe it's by Adult Swim

that's like, you know, they have their block from like, I forget what time it is, like 5 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

or something like that.

Like, hey, you've had a long day at work.

We don't need all your attention.

Just put this on.

We're the perfect background programming.

We'd never be so presumptuous as to take all your attention.

You got stuff to do.

You got laundry to fold.

You got dishes to clean.

Just put us on.

It's not new content.

It's King of the Hill.

It's, you know, Bob's Burgers.

It's all old stuff.

It's like family guy.

You don't need to be watching it actively.

Just put it on.

We're there to comfort you while you do all the things you need to do in life.

It's like, what an insane marketing campaign.

That is genius.

Yeah, but it's like, yeah.

It's like, yeah, it's the comfort stuff.

It's not new.

It's like, yeah, I'm going to put it on.

I'm going to perk up when I know my my favorite joke's coming up.

Ha ha ha ha.

You get back to like whatever mundane shit you have to do.

Wow.

So good.

And you don't feel like you're missing anything if you're not paying attention.

That's brilliant.

That is really smart.

Yeah, I know.

I thought that was great.

Is that what this show is?

Background content?

This is foreground content.

Everybody who watches or listens to this show, I assume, is sitting in front of an old-timey radio with a dial just staring at it, just fucking fully focused.

Looking around the room, smiling.

Smoking an old-timey pipe, wearing a sweater, and then gesturing with the pipe.

When you guys make a good point, they gesture with the pipe to the radio, looking back at their family.

They puff excitedly.

Every once in a while, we'll make an incredibly dated reference to something, and they'll be like, I get it.

Hardcastle and McCormick.

I watched that show.

Brim.

So, not speaking of old stuff, speaking of something something new, I went to a restaurant I've never been to the other day.

There was an article in the New York Times a couple months ago.

I think it was something like 20 restaurants in the United States that we're excited about.

And I was looking through it, and there was a restaurant in Austin.

Didn't we have a couple on that list?

There were a few.

I think we had three.

I believe you're right.

But

there was one on there that was like a Malaysian place.

And I remember looking at it and thinking, I don't know if I've ever had Malaysian food.

And it's kind of like stuck around in the back of my head.

Like, I need to try that place out.

And, but I knew it was probably going to be crazy because of the article and everything.

Yeah.

So I let that die down.

And like last week or the week before, I was finally like, you know what?

You know, let's order some food from that Malaysian place.

So

you got it delivered.

Well,

so what is about to happen?

So

I looked it up and they mentioned this in the New York Times article.

The restaurant's in a gas station.

So I was like, okay, I'm going to see if I can find their website and I'll order the food and go pick it up and take it home.

Had trouble figuring out what their website was, had trouble figuring, like,

their

internet presence isn't very great.

And this isn't just because you're old and out of touch.

You're a pretty smart.

Right.

No, that's like

they don't have very much internet presence.

I'm going to move because that one's hitting me.

That's the funniest spot in the

so I drive down there.

It's by campus.

And so I go to the gas station by campus.

By the way, I figured it was, I think it was, it might have been like during Thanksgiving break or something.

Okay.

And I thought it won't be so bad because school's out.

Turned out there was a home football game the day that I went.

So it was pedestrians everywhere.

So you say, you said, you said specifically the gas station by campus.

Which one is the gas station?

It's a shell station.

If you're driving south on Guadalupe, you take a ride at Sound Exchange.

And you go down for a couple blocks.

It's over by...

Statistics have been gone for 15 years, by the way.

The building's gone.

The fucking hi, how are you?

Concrete wall is still there, and

they're building a building, they're building a hotel around it.

It's got to be the lobby.

I just realized I misspoke.

Not sound exchange, further back up.

Tower records.

That's what I meant.

That's what I meant.

Take a ride.

Tower records have been gone for 10 years, by the way.

What a mess.

Take a ride in Tower Records.

And go down a couple blocks.

It's over.

There's a shell station over there.

I think it's 24th.

No, no, no, it can't be.

No, it might be.

It might be like 24th.

Okay.

Somewhere.

Anyway, take a ride over there.

It's a shell station.

I don't think it's 24th.

God.

Yeah, you're right.

I think 24th is whatever.

Over there.

That doesn't matter.

It's somewhere over by the campus, west of Guadalupe, it sounds like.

I've lived in Austin a really long time.

I was born here.

West Campus is like a black hole.

Same.

I didn't go to UT.

Same.

So it's an area I normally avoid because of the traffic and the congestion.

It's also constantly underchange.

Yeah.

So I don't go there.

So that's why, even though I've lived here a long time, decades, I could not tell you what street it's on.

I know more or less where it is, but I couldn't tell you what number it on.

Anyway, walk in and like it was right after they open

in the afternoon.

It's probably like right after four o'clock.

Walk in to the gas station and I look around.

It's like, oh, it's off there to the left.

That's where the restaurant is.

And I walk up and I start looking at the menu and it's all tacos.

What?

And I'm like, this doesn't seem right.

And I'm like looking around and there's people starting to get their food.

It's like, they're not getting tacos.

So there's like one of the one of the cooks is like this dude.

And I'm like, I walk up to him and I'm like, hey, how do I order?

Do I have to like order online or something?

He's like, oh, no, hold on.

Go talk to her.

He like points at some woman.

And she like smiles at me.

She's like, hold on.

And then she opens up a cardboard box and pulls out like an iPad cash register and starts hooking it up.

And I'm like,

do I order from you?

She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She ordered from me.

Did she open the, like, did she have to cut the cardboard box open or was it like, was it sealed?

No, it

open it was like she had brought it in with her gotcha gotcha uh and i'm like so i ordered from you she goes yeah yeah we you know we just opened and i realized that

they share the space with the taco restaurant the taco restaurant is open from like 8 a.m to 4 p.m then at 4 p.m it becomes a malaysian restaurant it's a malaysian restaurant from like 4 p.m to 9 p.m yeah

uh that's kind of like the old slider's place yeah

yeah yeah okay like like a like a kitchen in a in a gas station that in the morning and for lunch you can get tacos then they close and then you can get Malaysian food.

Yeah, that's awesome.

There was like a, there was a, was it, was it at

the old,

the place on Lamar, what's it called?

GM steakhouse.

The old GNM steakhouse, right?

At 2 a.m.

It would close down and it'd become a slider place for like three hours.

Yeah, okay, cool.

Very similar.

What the fuck?

Yeah, so there was like,

it was confusing, to say the least.

So then, like, you know, I knew what I'd wanted because I had found a menu online, like on a Yelp review or something.

Like, someone had posted with the menu.

So I knew what I wanted.

And I, you know, I order.

And then, you know, I placed an order for myself and for my wife.

And then she asked me, like, do you want a croissant too?

And I was like, what do you mean?

What's a croissant?

You asked, what's a croissant?

Well, no, because she, like, it was very specific.

It was a, I don't remember what she called it.

It was like a croissant something.

Okay.

And I was like, what is that?

And like, she walks around the counter, and there's like a photo.

on the glass wall like where the that separates where the kitchen is.

She's like, like this.

She points at it.

It's like this croissant with like some kind of green paste in it.

And she was like, it's a dessert.

I was like, sure, hook me up.

Let's do it.

Why not?

I like how Gus is so for.

I'm listening to this.

Gus, by the way, I'm hearing this and I'm hearing Gus be like, yeah, sure, I'll take it.

I know what Gus is like when he talks to other people.

First off, Gus in public, Gus talking to other people, Gus talking to a stranger, Gus ordering and navigating an uncomfortable situation in a place he's unfamiliar with.

The guy he's describing is not the man who did any of this.

Listen.

Any of this.

I was super cool.

He sat in the car.

He never went inside.

He he sat in the car and this is all just how he imagined he would have done it or like ester or this is what ester told him we're so hard to get it

so uh she you know she rings up she starts ringing up my food uh at the cash restroom which she had just plugged in right the ipad finally finished booting and uh uh she looks at me and she goes are you malaysian

because she's like an older malaysian lady it's her it's her place and i'm like no no i laugh and i'm like no a lot of people, you know, ask if I'm Asian, I'm not.

Dude, you are like the ethnic Swiss Army nice.

I swear to God, you can fit in anywhere.

It really is like a superpower for you.

It is.

It's useful.

And then, you know, she starts talking.

She's like super friendly.

She's like, yeah, you know, she's like, have you been here before?

It's like, no, it's my first time.

You know, I saw the article in the New York Times and I just, you know, finally got around to coming.

She's like, yeah.

After they printed that art, after they, you know, posted that article, the line went outside the gas station and down the street.

I worked here by myself when that article came out.

Whoa, yeah, she was like, she was like, she was like, I was cooking non-stop the entire time we were open.

And, you know, now she had like two, like that dude I found, you know, was one of her, was cooking for her.

She had like two cooks helping her out.

I was like, I was like, that must have been really tough.

She goes, yeah, but it was good.

Anyway,

yeah, it sucked.

Anyway, I got to go pick up my new Lexus.

The place called Weez Cozy Kitchen.

How do you spell wee?

W-E-E.

Okay.

Weez Cozy Kitchen.

We apostrophe.

S.

Okay, Cozy Kitchen.

Okay, so how was the food?

It was really good.

Like I said, I'd never had Malaysian food before.

What did I got?

I got something called like beef redang or something like that.

It was like a curried beef.

It was really, really very flavorful.

I really want to go back.

I bring it up because I highly recommend it.

Y'all should definitely check it out.

Weeze Cozy Kitchen.

Yeah.

Okay, but how was the croissant?

Oh, the croissant.

So the croissant had pandan in it.

What's pandan?

Pandan, I had to look it up, is, I guess, an herb from Southeast Asia that's used in desserts a lot.

It's kind of sweet, very fragrant.

There's nothing I can really compare it to.

Okay.

But it was like a pandan paste that they put it in there.

So it's like a croissant that they like cut open, smear pandan in the middle.

Is it sweet?

Like

you said it's a little bit.

It's mildly sweet.

Yeah, it's not like super sugary.

Yeah, it was awesome.

It might have been my favorite thing.

It might have been better.

I might have liked it more than the beef.

Wow, the way you described it did not make it sound like it was your favorite part of the meal.

It looks

unappetizing because it just looks like a croissant that's cut open with a bunch of green stuff smeared in it.

Like you take a bite, it's like, oh, that's fucking good.

What did E-Town get?

I don't remember.

It was a noodle dish of some kind.

I can't remember what it was, though.

Did Bishi liked it?

Yeah, liked it a lot.

Okay.

So highly recommend it.

Definitely look at the menu before you go because it was all dish it was no dish I'd ever heard of before and also go after four go after four there before four

How are the tacos?

I wonder I don't know what we can go

get a tortilla and then you put green paste in it and it's kind of sweet they have pandan tacos

Do you feel like a like you're like a food influencer like you're on the cutting edge?

Are you gonna start it are you gonna start a TikTok channel where you show me what it's like going in to order these things?

I'm the cutting edge of a New York Times article that came out three months ago.

Oh, no, no, no, not at all.

Anyway, when you go to the gas station, turn left.

Okay.

All right, cool.

Then you'll see it.

I'm going to the Tower of Records.

You're going to be disappointed.

What's in there now?

I think it's like a university store, right?

Like if you had the varsity store where you go get like a UT hoodie or like a fucking your books or whatever.

I don't know.

I'm the same with you, dude.

I'll ride my bike through there sometimes, but not very often anymore because I have a better route to go now.

It's once I stopped going to Doby Theater in 1999,

my knowledge knowledge of that area went completely jettisoned.

I don't know fucking anything about campus.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's the parking's so tough.

Even if there's a place you want to go to down there, like a restaurant or whatever, parking is such

a

old job had a call center there in the Adobe Mall.

Oh, yeah.

But it was right after we quit.

Yeah.

So we never got to explore.

There's that parking garage right across from Doby, but then you got to pay to park in there.

That's like street parking.

I mean, the tough part, I think, is like on the main drag right there is you're

you can't like turn or or turn around for like so long.

You just go, oh, there's where I wanted to.

Okay, well, I'm just going to keep, I'll just keep cruising and figure it out, I guess.

If you ever go to Dolby Mall and you park in that multi-level parking lot,

take a small car.

It is so fucking tiny.

And I watched a guy in a pickup truck do the thing that Gus and I talked about in front of the Metropolis where he wrapped his car around the pole trying to get in the gate.

I watched a guy do that around the left edge, like trying to make the corner with his pickup truck and just annihilated the driver's side of his car, just trying to get out of the parking lot.

It's fucking, it's tight.

Fuck.

Yeah.

Damn.

You eat anywhere cool or what?

I had a new place last night I ordered from called

Mrs.

B's, maybe.

I'd never heard of it before, and I thought it was a ghost kitchen, even, but I looked it up and it had a storefront.

That's the thing that always gets me.

It's like I'll see ads for a place to be like, ooh, that sounds good.

Like, oh, it's the ghost kitchen right by work.

Like, when I'm looking for new places to eat lunch here sometimes, I'm like, oh, this sounds, oh, anytime I don't recognize it, I just look at the address, and it's always on I-35.

5610 North I35.

I know, I know, I know what you are.

Yep.

Let me pull this up and see if I can see my order from last night.

I think it was pretty good.

We've talked about it on FaceGream and stuff.

Michael got tricked by pizza from Chuck E.

Cheese and wings from Hooters during the pandemic.

Doc B's Fresh Kitchen.

You ever heard of that place?

Doc Bees?

Yeah, it was fucking pricey, but it was pretty good.

What was it?

It was like steaks and shit.

Like, Millie got a steak.

I got

a chopped salad.

And Emily

got chicken skewers, like chicken kebabs.

It was good.

But I'd never heard of it.

And I was like, it sounds like a ghost kitchen.

It does, right?

I don't think it is.

Weird little place.

Huh.

Doc Bee's.

You don't need to sound like in a gas station.

It's not a different restaurant at a different time.

You ever go to the Tower Records?

I think it might be like a domain-like

kind of place.

Or not.

Or it could be a ghost kitchen.

I really don't know.

This one you said Doc Bee's and my mind immediately goes to like Docs.

That used to be over there on South Congress.

What is Docks?

It was just like a restaurant slash bar.

Mostly a bar, tons of outdoor seating.

There's

a Nike store there or something now, I think.

Yeah, it's on the east side of South Congress over there, like where they built like that strip mall.

The whole complex.

Yeah, it's where we're like over where

there's like an Hermes store.

It's insane.

It was like a little, it was just like a tiny little building with tons of outdoor seating.

You would go get a drink and sit outside.

I think it exists somewhere else.

I think that they may have like a Pflugerville or a North Austin location somewhere.

I could be wrong about that, but I don't think that was their only spot.

Yeah, that whole area, we've talked about it many times, undergone such transformation.

I think it was right next to that dry cleaner.

Oh.

That became

a stag after that woman died.

After the lady died?

Oh, dude.

Did you ever hear about that, Eric?

There was a dry cleaner there on South Congress.

Like, that's just

how much that area has changed, right?

It was like a big outdoor bar, and there was a dry cleaner right there on South Congress, which sounds insane.

Over by St.

Vincent the Pole.

Yeah.

I guess one it's gone too?

I think so.

I think it's been gone for a while.

One morning, this woman was working at the dry cleaner, and older lady.

Her hair got caught in one of the machines.

One of the rollers.

And she

wasn't.

Yeah, she got pulled into the machine.

No, like Bugs Bunny getting run over in the street kind of.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

And kind of flattened her.

And I was like, it was terrible.

Wow.

And

I think the dry cleaner closed down shortly after that.

I don't know if it was related to that, but it's.

Yeah.

It wasn't around much longer.

Oh my God.

That must have been 2006.

Wow.

Yeah.

06, 07, maybe.

Somewhere around there.

Yeah, because then they closed the dry cleaner.

And then

that clothing store.

Stag, I think, opened up there.

And now Stag moved in, I believe, is over by Home Slice.

Stag is by Home Slice.

Yeah.

And they've been there for a very long time.

I think it initially was, if I remember, I think you might be right.

It was initially where that dry cleaner was.

And then they bulldozed that building and they moved.

Wow.

That's crazy.

A lot of dead people out there.

Yeah.

I'm afraid of escalators now because of what you told me about escalators.

Yeah.

And there's some fucked up escalator videos you can see online.

I don't want to see them.

Yeah.

I don't want to see fucked-up escalators.

I don't want where that lady's kids falling in and she like saves them and she just disappears.

She disappears.

Yeah.

And that's it.

She's just dead.

I just don't, I didn't want to know any escalator knowledge.

And then you gave me all this escalator knowledge and it's terrible.

I don't want to get ground by gears.

No.

Yeah.

That's the bad way to go.

Which way do you want to go, though?

Quietly.

Oh.

In my sleep, like Norman Lear

at 101.

Actually, I would much rather live older.

I'd like to hit 150 if I could.

You'd like to hit 150.

I think so.

I think that we're going to be far enough along in my lifetime that we're solving for age, right?

For mortality.

Okay, Steve Jobs.

I think that's the thing he kept saying.

Yeah, but he also was like, oh, do I have cancer?

No problem.

I'll just eat an apple.

Like, I'm not that guy.

I'm like, oh, I have cancer.

I'll go to the doctor and get cancer treatment.

Yeah.

This is what it's like to hang out with Gary.

I'm not going to get for a mega 64.

Where he's, he's like, like, synchronicity is like right around the corner.

And I'm like, where do you think the corner is?

Yeah.

It's, I don't think it's our lifetime.

Mine is in the next town over.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, but I could see, I mean, I'm 48.

I'll live to, without help, right?

Without the help of technology, just as we are in 2023, I'll live till 100.

Every, every man in my family lives into their late 90s, early hundreds.

Is that right?

I didn't know that.

Yeah, I have a long,

all my family, actually.

My great-grandma,

I knew my great-grandma until I was like 12.

Like, my family was pretty, like, I've been around a lot of them.

They've been around a long time.

I knew my great-grandma when I was like 12 also.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She was like, she was like 100.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They all, they all live to, they're like Mississippi farmers, man.

You can't kill them.

They live forever.

And so.

Born in the mud, die in the mud.

So that means

I got probably another 50 years before I have to worry about kicking naturally.

So I think in 50 years, think about the advances we've had in 50 years.

Okay.

We didn't have the fucking internet 50 years ago.

Yeah.

And that's all helped our lifespans.

Well, I'm not saying that part.

I'm saying the world has changed dramatically in the last 50 years, and I can only imagine it's going to change at least that much in the next 50.

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did it was it you who talked about the overall decline in people's intelligence worldwide yes yes yes was that episode uh so all right

all right yeah that's true it's called the Flynn effect.

Well, the reverse Flynn effect.

Since the 1990s, IQs have globally been falling.

Do you think a generation of dum dumps is going to help you live forever?

Well, I'm not so.

Luckily, the previous generation created AI, and AI is going to help us live forever.

The dumb dumbs, I'm not.

I don't have a lot of faith in.

But the shit that the previous, the shit that the people that

built on the way out is going to help us.

Okay.

I think.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I mean, AI is already better at like, every day I read an article, it's like, oh, now we've started using AI to look at x-rays, and it's way better than human eyes looking at x-rays, and it's able to detect all kinds of shit that humans can't.

And so now x-rays are more valuable than they used to be.

It's like just little ways like that.

The shit improves.

That's good.

I'm all for that.

I guess I hope you're right.

I don't know how I feel about it, right?

It's like if you'd live...

I feel like if you live that long of a life and you go that far,

that makes it difficult to plan for when you're the age we are right now.

How do you approach retirement?

How do you think about, you know, when you can no longer work or when you are no longer working?

How do you budget that out?

You know, if you, if you're going to live to be 100, that's very different than planning to live till you're 80.

Yeah, no, that's totally true.

But I also think as those

as lifespans hopefully will increase

through technology and automation continues to change the way we live, I mean, I really do think we're on the Wally path, right?

As far as fucking this planet up, I'll agree.

As far as fucking this planet up, but also as far as like humans just allowing robots to do everything for them and just getting fat and sitting on lawn chairs, I mean, I think that's the direction we're headed.

I just worry that the planet will

accelerate its attempts to get rid of us.

Well, we will help the planet accelerate its attempts to get rid of us.

I totally agree with that.

Yeah, but if we invented, but if we invent WAL-E, he'll save us.

So I think we're supposed to leave.

He fixes it, and then we come back.

I forgot about that.

I thought maybe we just invented Wally.

No.

No.

He's got to find the little roach.

Yeah.

The little hijinks.

Just get it.

That's the thing that I forgot.

I thought we invented Wally and then he saves us.

I forgot about his hijinks.

There's the secret Fred Willard video.

He was like, it's not going to work.

There's no coming back.

We're gearing up towards sort of like the holidays and everything.

So we're pre-recording these

of what we're doing and everything.

You guys have anything holiday-wise that you're looking forward to or excited about or just holidays in general that you're like pumped for?

This is going to sound like such a dickhead answer, but I'm so looking forward to not working.

Yeah.

Because

I got double whammied in that I got married a couple, like a month ago now or a couple weeks ago.

And so leading up to the wedding and the

honeymoon, I had to front load a ton of content.

So I had to film a ton of it.

Well, you guys were there.

You had to, you were, you had to suffer through it because I did this to us.

I'm sorry.

I was there for all of it.

But yeah, Gush was there for some of it.

Eric, he got really rammed.

But so we had to record up anmos, record up solar rights, record up faces, record up supplemental content, record up all that dumb shit.

And then you go and you have your break or whatever.

And then you come back and you should just ease into everyday work again, you know?

But I got back and I walked off the plane from the honeymoon and went, okay, christmas crunch and do it again and so i'm i've been in hell for the last two weeks yep and once this week is over i think we have one anma to record next week and one face and the idea that i'll only record the stuff i'm supposed to record in that week feels like a vacation yes yeah so i'm just looking forward to being past that i'm looking forward to being at the day that i we don't have to front load stuff anymore we kind of got

into a very similar situation with Stinky Dragon because we had to bank a bunch of stuff so that some of the cast could go off and film the puppet videos.

So we were like, I remember at the beginning, I was like, man, we're so far ahead.

We crunched so hard.

We worked so hard.

But man, we got, we're like so many weeks ahead.

And then as production kept going on, I was like, uh-oh, that, that buffer's going down.

Uh-oh, uh-oh.

And then we reached like the end of puppet production.

It's like, oh, shit, we're behind.

Record, record, record.

So we're at the tail end of that now.

Just like trying to recreate that bank because we had nothing built up, and now we have the holidays coming up.

So we're like, we've been scrambling trying to get back in front of it again.

And then we're going to the other side of the holidays and it's going to be gone again.

We have to like hustle all over again.

Yep.

It's Gavin trying to blow through all of our supplemental content.

Just put it all up.

And it's like, but we can spread it out and then we don't have to blow through all of it.

No, let's do two.

All right.

Thank you.

Cool.

Just so you're aware, and this hasn't, I don't think it's come out yet on face by the time this is out.

Maybe.

Jeff got his ass waxed yesterday.

Oh, it happened finally.

Got my my asshole waxed.

Yeah, so we don't have to go into it here because you have my balls.

I've just seen it on face.

I wish I could have seen my face when you told me that.

No one else did that part.

Yeah.

That was,

he was on the table and said yes.

Listen, I had already suffered the indignity.

I'm in a room with my

buckets.

I'm in a room with my asshole face in the sky with a woman I've never met before with my balls in her hand, just slathering hot wax up into my colon.

I'm looking at it.

I'm just showing him what it looked like to have you.

I'd had the pain of getting my asshole waxed.

I look up, all I can see are Gavin, Eric, Nick, and Gracie's faces looking at me.

I would already reach supreme indignation and embarrassment.

So, what's why not go ahead and do the balls in the moment, too?

I didn't know that after I did it, and then it was Gavin's turn, he would not acquiesce and do the balls as well.

It would be a little bitch.

Although, I guess I could have guessed.

I think we all.

Gavin was

Gavin was trying to see if the windows opened so he could escape.

He was.

I'm a team fucking player.

My balls play for the team.

For the first time ever, I'm not jealous to not be part of that show.

I'm glad I'm on this side of that show.

I'm going to say this: it sucked and it wasn't worth it, but I have had the most amazing poops.

It's so smooth down there, dude.

So

I'm curious to talk to you in a couple of days or a week when the itching starts.

Yeah, that's what I've read on Reddit.

Eric and I were talking about it.

If it gets bad enough, I'll probably just re-

It's probably one of those things where I'll get to it.

It'll get so annoying, I'll just get waxed again.

And now I'm just stuck in a waxing loop.

Yeah.

Can you get like some kind of laser treatment to like make it?

Yeah, you could probably get laser treatment.

So he got his balls waxed also.

You want...

You think that shooting a laser at your balls is the move?

Well, I was saying, no, I think the itching will be worse in the anal region.

Oh, I think the ass crack.

I think it's going to be the balls.

You're going to have both going to suck.

Cheeks rubbing together.

I agree.

I think it's going to be that, but I think that you can find a comfortable way to sit where it's not going to rub.

And I don't think you're going to find a comfortable way to sit.

You can spread your cheeks.

I don't think you're going to find a comfortable way for your sack to sit where it's not going to be itching.

My balls are everywhere in my pants, too.

They're all over the place.

Go to Costco, buy a giant tub of Vaseline.

Yeah.

I didn't know what to do.

She gave us a bunch of recommendations.

She gave us a bunch of recommendations of like witch hazel and like different

things to with there's a whole it was honestly it was like getting a fucking medical procedure with the aftercare.

She was pretty serious about it.

So there's a whole bunch of shit I'm supposed to do.

Do you think you could get there's like a pair of there's like underwear that has like the like the dick and balls separate thing.

I have them where I have them.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

You can you can separate into it.

Yeah.

And then maybe you don't have to worry about like your legs sticking.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

I started wearing when I when I went to the jock itch hell I started getting the moves for the Emily got them for me.

And I've been wearing them.

Oh, you're going to be fine.

Yeah.

They're going to prepare for

something.

I totally forgot about your jock itch hell.

Yeah.

You're going to be fine with the itching.

This is, it's going to be nothing.

It's not going to be as bad as that.

It's not going to be as bad as that eight months.

No.

No.

That's going to be a cakewalk for you.

But yeah, you did that right before the Christmas season.

So

it's a holiday tradition.

You have anything going on for

that?

That's not happening.

You have anything for the holidays that you're looking forward to necessarily or anything?

I think just having a little bit of time off will be good.

I think, you know,

it's been, we've talked about the past couple weeks, it's always a hectic time of year for Jeff doubly.

So I think, you know, being able to unwind for a little while is going to be going to be nice.

Step into the new year.

Who was it?

I ruined Andrew Roses' day yesterday by reminding him that next year is an election year, though.

Oh, that's right.

It slipped his mind.

I don't know

if we want to talk about this.

Feel free to stop me if you think that we shouldn't.

But while we were eating lunch, we were talking about possible future ideas for this show.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

And,

you know, Jeff, you kind of mentioned, you know, about maybe leaning into a little more into the

early riser aspect of the show.

Yes.

And then like springboarding off of that, I kind of threw out there

the idea of maybe like an inverse of David Tell's Insomniac show, where every now and then we get up and we do a podcast.

super early and like we go to a bakery when they open and get like the first donut that they that they they have, like at 5 a.m.

or something.

Like, we get there when Mrs.

Johnson gets there.

Right.

Yeah.

Just like exploring the things you can do early in the day

by starting the day early, the advantages that you get from an early day.

I like that.

I do too.

I think that'll be fun.

Maybe that's something we can give a shot at.

Yeah, I'm throwing it.

I'm just curious to hear also, you know, maybe what the audience thinks about it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just trying to not really like mix it up, but just see like, oh, what else can we do?

Some new ideas.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just new ideas.

New year, new ideas.

Yeah.

We're almost at the nice episode, so we got to, like, you know, it's been a while that we've been doing this.

Mix it up a little bit.

We're pros.

Yeah, absolutely.

We're getting on to 40 minutes, so I do want to talk about the burgers and lunch.

Can you believe that?

Yeah.

I feel like we just started.

So 5280 burger bar.

What did you think over?

We got there right at 11 when it opened.

Why is it called 5280?

I don't know.

Is that the address?

I wouldn't think so.

It's too far north to be 5280.

Maybe it's like west.

Maybe it's like 5280 far west.

Maybe that would be about right for like an east-west address.

I just think of it as not being on far west because it's down on that other street.

Yeah, it probably has some completely different meaning.

I don't know.

I just, whenever I see numbers, I always assume it's an address.

Yeah.

Okay.

You know, I think 528, it's a Colorado-based place that has one location in Austin, but everything else is in Colorado.

Oh, so it's a chain.

Yep.

But it's, it's a very small chain currently.

And 5280 might be the elevation.

That would make

it.

It is, it's, it's a local, like, so it's locally owned in like Denver, but there aren't, there, there are like four locations.

It's elevation.

Yeah, it's elevation.

So people in Denver fucking love.

They love it.

They love that.

That's their favorite.

They put it on their fucking jerseys and stuff, man.

It's there.

Everything's bigger in Texas.

Yeah, definitely.

You know, sorry, I'm going to sideboard.

No, no, please.

Years ago, I was down in Australia hanging out with some people I know down there.

And one of them.

Like a big guy bragging about having friends.

One of them was.

Oh, I just got some friends on the other side of the world.

You don't know them.

They're very cool, though.

One of them was talking about how cool he thought it was that Texas had a slogan, like, don't mess with Texas.

And it just sounded so tough and so cool.

And I was like, you know, that's that's an anti-littering campaign, right?

Right.

And he was like, what?

I was like, yeah, it's like they put it on the trash cans.

Like, don't litter.

Don't mess with Texas.

You put your trash in the trash can.

And he seemed so deflated.

He's like, oh, that's not nearly as cool as I thought it was.

Like, oh, you think littering is cool, then, asshole?

That and DQ, that's what I like about Texas.

And it's not a Texas.

Texas stop sign.

It's, but it's not a Texas restaurant or play it's out of like Minneapolis so what the fuck all the Texas stuff is a dumb thing when you stop and go what's this from what the fuck every it's I'm myself included everybody moves to Texas and then just what fucking assumes the Texas identity yeah you know yeah you know we're I'm a big Texas guy yeah stuff I'm known for California Texas yeah you know it's very nice

unified finally

uh anyway 5280 uh the second we stepped in I was like oh this place is cool I like this place it had a very like it reminded me uh kind of uh of the keg up in

the steel area.

Interesting.

Kind of very lodge area.

I can see that.

Like brick.

A lot of wood.

Yeah.

Big bar.

Kind of reminded me a little bit of Black Sheep Lodge vibe.

Not maybe the layout, but down in South Lamar.

Similar kind of vibe.

But it was had some TVs on.

We were in the bar area because apparently there was a group of 20 people over in the dining area.

And if you would have asked us how many other people do you think are in this restaurant, I would have said maybe four other workers.

I thought it was just us and the employee.

I thought there was anyone else.

No, they were very quiet for 20.

Yeah.

She said it was free big party day and so they had a 30-person breakfast, a 20-person lunch.

They're about to have another 11 people come in and they had a 40-top come in later, she said.

Crazy.

Crazy.

Crazy.

Crazy.

To your point earlier about supporting the business.

Yeah, and it's

good.

I thought that the, like the food, we got frings.

Any place that offers frings is a winner in my opinion.

It's a little too heavy heavy on the fruff and a little too light on the rings.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

There were only three onion rings in the whole thing, I think, so we each got one.

I really like their fries.

I like their fries.

It was a lot.

Their onion rings were really good.

I liked their burger menu.

I was a little intimidated by them because

they had a whole other menu, too.

When you looked at the burgers, I want to say they were like 10 or 12 burgers.

But I did appreciate the final burger on the left column, on the left side, was the A-hole.

Yeah.

I think the description on it was something like, we put a lot of time and effort into designing the burgers on this menu.

If you think you can do it better, this is the option for you.

Make your own burger.

Which is pretty awesome.

He was like, okay, yeah, yeah, I take it.

So because normally I would have been very picky, like I want it this way, I want that.

I was like, no, you know, if they're going to say that, I'm going to order one of those.

So I got the ultimate cheeseburger.

And I got the 5280.80 burger.

What did you get?

I got the ring of fire.

Which I wanted to get.

It was very good.

Like every spicy thing you get at a restaurant.

It's not really spicy, but I had a little bit of heat.

It's not the one that was supposed to have serranos and jalapenos.

It had habaneros, had sliced habaneros and I think serranos on it.

But they weren't hot.

I mean,

it's hot in the way that if you take a bite of the flesh of a habanero without any of the seeds, it's hot.

They had a ring of fire sauce on it also that was like a chipotle mayo, and I thought that was nice.

I'll eat anything that has a pepper jack cheese with some kind of peppers and like creamy sauce thing that's also hot on it.

Like that's, I'm fucking, that's my wheelhouse right there.

So I thought that was good.

So what a, so what are, we've talked around it.

How did you like your burger?

Yeah.

I really liked it a lot.

I think it's,

for me, it's not in the same category as like a casino or a Hillbert's, but those are like pinnacle perfect burgers.

Different burgers.

Right.

Totally different.

It's, it was really good.

I appreciated that it was simple.

I don't like overcomplicated burgers.

I think I mentioned that earlier.

Burger episode.

Like the ultimate cheeseburger was just like a regular cheeseburger.

And one thing I really appreciate that we'll give them kudos for, the Ultimate Cheeseburger by default does not come with tomato.

Wow.

Tomato has no place being on that burger.

Tomato normally is too wet in a burger application and just kind of like soggies the whole thing up.

I appreciate that they did not have tomato on the ultimate cheeseburger

bonus points there.

I love tomato on it.

Yeah, me too.

I'm way into it.

No, no, no, they did it right.

But, you know, obviously it's better than, you know, most of the other burgers you're going to get.

I think if I I was grading this on a scale of one to ten, this is like an eight.

Yeah, I put it right around there, too.

Seven, eight.

Uh, yeah, I got the 52.80, which is basically like the cheeseburger with all the dressing.

Yeah, it was lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, cheese.

And I had bacon, I added bacon to it.

Bun was phenomenal.

Yeah.

I pay a lot of attention to buns.

It's a really good bun.

We know you just talked about it.

Really good bun.

Crispy bacon, fantastic bacon, perfectly melted cheese,

great onion ratio.

The meat of the burger was okay.

Yeah.

I give it an 8.5.

So

when you ordered your burger, you brought something to light that's an annoyance of mine

in general.

This isn't about burger places.

It's just annoyance at restaurants in general.

Your burger on the menu said it came with 5280 sauce, as if we all know what that is.

Yeah, I think 5280 sauce.

I don't like when restaurants put

and the blank sauce.

Without giving an explanation of the blank sauce, mayonnaise and mustard together.

So you asked the waitress, what is 5280 sauce?

And she explained what it was.

And that's fine.

Tell us.

Don't act like we know what the sauce.

Don't presuppose that we know your secret.

This isn't just them.

This is in general at restaurants.

What is Yauza sauce?

Right, right, right.

What's horsey sauce at Arby's?

I still don't know.

I think it's horseradish.

Hi, Gracie.

Oh, my God.

What's Arby's sauce?

Barbecue sauce, I guess?

I don't know.

Come on in.

Yeah, you're fine.

We're just

wrapping up Anima.

No, this is your office, too.

It's fine.

Yeah, you're allowed to be on it.

Gus is encroaching on your space.

Is this your chair?

I thought this was Gavin's chair.

Well, Gavin doesn't know that it's his chair.

Oh.

There's couch space if you want to just hang out.

So I think the burger was good.

I think it's a place that's worth going to.

I think if you're in that area, you go to Secret HEB and then you go get lunch.

Like, that's the move.

That's a place that if I live closer to it, I would go to all the time.

Oh, you go there, and then after you're done, go get a cup of coffee over at the Epoch Doc.

Day.

Also,

just as much of a bar as it is a restaurant.

I mean, it's definitely a pub.

So if you want to go watch sports, there's a thousand episodes.

I bet that's a football fucking thing.

I don't know if you're a bad person.

They had a pretty extensive menu of boozy milkshakes.

Yeah.

Which is not the move for me.

So

if that's your thing.

Booze and dairy do not go together.

It's just such a fun idea, and then you have it in practice and you go, oh, this sucks shit.

You just keep taking sips and you go, oh, it tastes like bourbon.

We did not have their boozy milkshakes.

I bet their non-alcoholic milkshakes are pretty fucking good.

Oh, I bet their regular milkshakes are good.

Why did I order?

I'm such an idiot.

I should have ordered one.

yeah

oh did you think that they only had alcohol i just think the connection i saw the boozy milkshakes and i thought well i'm not gonna drink those oh man this sucks that they don't have regular milkshakes i'm gonna go after this and go straight back there i get a milkshake so gus gives us gives it an eight out of ten an enthusiastic eight out of ten i give it an enthusiastic eight and a half out of ten what do you give it it's like a like a i'll i'll i'll bring it down just a hair so we're at an even eight i'll say a seven five all right okay

i think it's i think it's right there next question yeah do you

realistically think you'll ever eat there again in your life?

If I'm over in that area, I would eat there again.

Gus?

Probably not.

Just because when given burger selection, I'm going to go with Hilbert's.

And it's not your part of town.

Right.

Like, you're not going to find yourself over there.

If I'm in that part of town, I might check it out.

We work right by Hilbert's.

That's my favorite place.

It's right down the road.

It's a little bit closer to convenient to me.

And so I envision eating there again.

I think I will definitely frequent that place.

Yeah.

Cool spot.

I'm a big fan.

Oh, check it out.

5280.

Very unassuming, kind of hidden away.

Yeah, we didn't know.

We weren't sure.

Like, we were driving to the parking lot.

Like, is it here?

What is this?

Is it open?

Is it closed?

It's like, oh, it's like, it's kind of

hard to find.

Yeah.

But that was

all that.

And now check this out.

We got an anarchy question.

Oh, yeah, I forgot what.

And you can send us an anarchy question at Anima Podcast.

Drop a fart bombs over here.

Come on.

I have to be in here for like a meeting.

I know.

It's the fucking.

I'm not doing it on purpose.

At Anima Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter, r slash Anima Podcast, the place on Reddit that we don't run, but you can leave a question there.

This is the only one I want to ask, and just see what you guys think.

Okay, fair.

This is from I Ate Too Many Eggs.

It's pretty good.

How are y'all feeling about E3 being canceled permanently?

Oh, that's a fresh question.

Yes, that just happened.

At the time of this recording, this happened yesterday.

Yeah.

I think the writing's been on the wall for a little while.

I thought E3 already had a little cancel.

It was canceled a couple times.

Yeah.

But now it is, it's done, though.

Yeah, they said no more.

I think, you know, the how do I, okay, how do I feel about it?

Yes.

It's fine.

I think E3 was a product of its time.

I think that before the internet and easy access to disseminate information, it was the kind of thing you needed.

Yeah.

I think at this point in the age we live in now, something like that is kind of a relic, as is evidenced by the fact that major publishers really were kind of holding their own events

and not really fully engaging in that event.

I have a lot of great E3 memories.

I think that's a lot E3 memories too.

I'm happy that it existed.

I'm happy that it persisted for so long, but I just think that the changing landscape evolved.

Everything else evolved and

it's just a victim of that.

I was talking about this with Bernie Burns yesterday, actually, because he texted me about it.

And

he loves to be like, hey, look at who else we outlived.

Which I must admit, I enjoy this.

I enjoy that too.

But

I think it's interesting to be in a place where

we've been doing this our entire lives.

Everybody does.

But where you're witnessing cultural shifts and generationally cultural shifts

and being able to recognize it for what it is.

Like we did that when we were younger.

We just didn't know what we were looking at.

Yeah.

You don't have perspective.

You don't have perspective.

But it's interesting.

It's like what is happening is a part of the way legacy media worked is dying in front of us.

And I'm just interested to see what's next, right?

The idea of a bunch of people coming from all over the world to cram into an E3 or a Gamescom or wherever it is in their part of the world to preview video games and to stand in line for three hours to play five minutes of a demo to then go do it again.

I just don't think the world is ever going to work that way again.

Yeah.

And it's just, it's, it outlived its use, and it's time to move on.

It's fucking sad.

It's sad to watch these things die, especially behemoths.

Like E3 was, it dominated the games industry for the majority of the time I've been a part of the games industry.

And now it's just like you flip a switch and it's, no, we just don't have it anymore.

But clearly, developers were no longer seeing any value in it at all, which is why they all started to hold their own events and stopped going to E3.

And so it's just interesting to be able to recognize it for what it is, which is the world changing.

It's not just an event closing or ending.

Yeah.

I wonder if that will help the development cycle because developers don't have an arbitrary date on the calendar that they have to have like a vertical slice built for.

That arbitrary date will just move to wherever their presentation is.

But it's moved to the video game awards or it's moved to Sony's Day of Play or whatever.

If they miss it, they miss it.

It's not like E3.

It's not like, oh, if we miss this thing, we've got to wait a whole other year.

That's true.

That's true.

It's, yeah, I guess it's just by virtue of the way information gets out and everything now.

You're right.

You're right about that.

So hopefully it

makes things better on that side.

But do you think it's been that way for the last couple years anyway?

Like, I feel like that's already been the case.

Oh, yeah, it has been, and that's why there's no more E3.

Yeah, like it's all, it's been the case and E3 was hanging on, yeah, and now it's been the case and E3 is gone.

Um,

I've seen a lot of people wax poetic about what they loved about E3 and it's gone and they're like, oh, I remember this and going and I loved it and whatever.

I have such like medium memories about E3 because I had to work it for

like Razor or whoever.

And it's just like, show up, shoot, Phil, go, go, go.

We have Imagine Dragons is going to be here.

Go.

And just go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

I have fond memories of Rocco on stage with you and Bernie.

That's so funny.

The fucking funniest thing I've ever seen.

But like, by and large, my memories of E3 are showing up in Los Angeles and just going,

okay,

get all the equipment, pay $50 for parking, that I have to get reimbursed later, like that kind of shit.

Like, that's most of my memories.

Don't get me wrong.

It was a lot of work.

Yeah, but there was also a lot of fun to be had there, too.

I mean, do you remember the year there was a giant half-pipe, and fucking like Tony Hawk was doing 720s, and there was that Ryan Sickler?

Was it Ryan?

Ryan, what's that kid?

What was that kid's name?

He was like 10 at the time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we watched him, he couldn't land the 720, and he cried, and his mom had to hug him.

He ended up becoming like an amazing,

I think, Ryan Sickler is a comedian.

I don't know.

It was one of those like child prodigy skate stars who's now probably old and on the other side of their career.

But,

you know, I'm out of that loop.

So, well, rest in peace E3.

Um, rest in peace, E3.

I remember when we did that, when we were on stage with Rocco and he was doing the bit.

Uh, no, that was real.

I had, I had, I had an earpiece in,

and the, the directors of the people like backstage, was one of them Blaine?

I don't remember.

It's been so long, but there were also like contract people out there working, and they were like in my ear constantly going, like, we're playing the right video.

This is the video he told us to play this video.

I don't know why he's getting so upset it's like please we're doing our job okay this this is what he wanted because everyone on stage kept getting acting you know like they were super annoyed and upset it was they were so nervous uh nobody nobody clued the crew into the joke yeah i felt so bad it says it's just i was talking to Gus about it where it's like, this is a prime time YouTube slot to show off your E3 presentation and it's Rocco in a fucking teen like a hat from League of Legends saying that his name is Andrew from Project Wind Whistler.

It was on the front page of YouTube.

And he's explaining that he's making a JRPG or translating or something.

And the whole time, Gus is going, okay, uh-huh, uh-huh.

And Bernie's going, No, you're not.

Nope.

No, you're not.

That's not what you're doing here.

That is not what this is.

And Rocco just is laying down.

Not right now.

He's like sitting on the ground.

Fucking sprawled out.

He shows the video and he goes, That's not the video that I brought.

And Bernie goes, Yes, it is.

You brought that.

You said to play it.

That is what you brought.

It is so, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen live.

It's the, it's like legitimately the funniest thing I've ever seen live.

It's perfect.

So rest in PC3.

It was all worth it.

One of my favorite things was always historically watching Bernie have to be on stage and deal with somebody else's joke when he doesn't want to.

It's somebody else's bit.

And I used to love to get the opportunity that I had to be that guy.

Anytime I got to be on stage with that guy, it was like, how do I ruin the next 30 minutes of his life?

Fucking great.

It is the best.

Because he gets like,

it gets him fast.

You can feel it.

Do you guys have a password written out on your whiteboard?

Yeah.

I've been very trying not to take pictures of it and stuff.

Yeah.

It helps every time I have to log into this computer.

Yeah,

filming here has been difficult.

I'm going to use it here in about 20 minutes when we're done to look up that driver's license.

I'm going to go over it.

Then you can lift it whenever you need it.

And then the computer goes back down and and covers it.

Oh, my God.

Hey, that's Anma.

Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode.

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We'll be back next week with coffee.

I think we know where we're going.

Yummers.

Do we?

Yeah, we drove by a place today.

It was exciting.

Yeah, Yummers.

Any final thoughts for the folks at home?

When does it come out?

Like two weeks.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas.

Oh, I think this might come out on Christmas Day.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas.

I hope you're having a wonderful Christmas Day, spending it with or without the people that you want to spend it with or without.

I'm going to one-up you and say happy holidays.

Oh, I hope you're rocking around the Christmas.

I'm not trying to cancel Christmas over here in this side of the room, buddy.

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