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Okay,

Hello.

This is episode 59.

Nice.

Yeah.

Nope.

No guests this week.

Last week we had Gavin on.

He made us.

We talked about meeting Gavin in England, saving the website, disasters and conventions, Slow-Mo Guys bucket list items, working with Guy Richie, and the end of Achievement Hunter.

But that was all last time.

Now, this whole episode.

Yes, this is episode 50.

Yeah, that's all.

We're still talking about that?

This is episode 59, so I leave it to you.

We're at El El Tigre in East Austin, not the old trailer, but the new building.

Which Gus informed me is Spanish for El Tiger.

Yeah,

let's hear a little bit of knowledge for today.

It's the tiger.

We passed by, it's funny, we passed by some condos or apartments on the way here that you and I both remembered as different things, but it was the same place.

It's like, I was like, we were driving by that empty lot.

I was like, oh, that's where the CVS used to be.

And you're like, oh, wait, I thought that's where the bingo place was.

Yeah, it was a CVS first.

Then it became a bingo place.

When did CVS become bingo?

I think CVS became bingo like in 2001, 2002, maybe?

That sounds about right.

Yeah, and then it was like, they painted it pink.

It was like this big

pink building right off of 35, like 35 and 12th for many years.

And now it's, and then it was abandoned for a long time.

and then now it's just apartments or condos or whatever like everything else around here well good morning gus yes good morning eric uh when was the last time you played bingo oh man i haven't played bingo in 15 years maybe

yeah somewhere on there i'm a big bingo guy when was the last time you played bingo uh like two weeks ago yeah i went for millie's when millie turned 18 we wanted to do 18 year old stuff with her so it's like here buy some lottery tickets uh hey can't buy cigarettes can't drink uh let's go play bingo

And the last time I played it was with my grandmother, so it wasn't like American bingo.

It was Mexican.

It was like the La Teria.

Yeah, with like all the different

pictures on it and whatnot.

I played with her.

That's probably the last time I played bingo.

Oh my.

Have you tasted your coffee yet?

No.

Is that a good oh my or a bad omey?

I think it's good.

You think?

It's kind of, I think it's a good omaya.

It's just I got hit with a flavor.

It's a little like cinnamon-y.

That's fucking fantastic.

Like, that caught me.

That took my breath away.

Mine's really smooth.

I don't have that.

Yeah, maybe a little bit of cinnamon.

Yeah.

Oh,

I have the Americano though.

Do you want to take a sip?

No, no, no.

I'll take a word for it.

Let's talk about the coffee, I guess, at the beginning.

I don't mind.

I'm sorry.

It just like it hit me.

This is really good.

This is...

This is my...

Well, here's the thing.

LT Gray is also a coffee roaster.

So they are handling their beans from probably when they're green through the process of what was just brewed for us now.

So

I think what you have is people who are very particular and very specific about the way things are made and handled.

This cup of coffee, I got the regular like brewed drip coffee.

There's no bitterness.

It has like that fruity sourness that I really like in a coffee.

That's awesome.

I could slam this.

It is so smooth and easy to drink.

Like you said, no bitterness at all.

I got the iced Americano.

We need, Eric, we need to stop going to good places.

Yeah, we need a stinker in here.

What happened?

I mean, we'll have to, let's hold off on our rankings until we finish and at the end, but like

holy shit.

This was your recommendation.

Yeah, because I was here Saturday.

There's a taco truck that everybody's been talking about for a while now.

It's not like a new thing called Quantos Tacos.

And it's like a little two-bite tacos.

And so Emily, oh, and they have this one.

They have this other thing where instead of a tortilla, it's

fried cheese.

Oh, and then that's the tortilla.

Oh, so good.

Anyway, so Emily and I went Saturday morning, and it's over here on the east side side off Imlaque, I guess, or 12th.

12th, 12th.

And we went by LT Gray Coffee to go to Quantas Tacos, and I saw it, and I thought, oh, so I mentioned it to y'all.

We should check it out.

By the way, Quantas Tacos are phenomenal.

And then we tried to go to Des Nudo because I've been talking it up to Emily, and there was probably 80 people in line.

Like, no joke, probably 80 people in line.

It's because of the podcast.

Because of us.

Yeah, so

we shouldn't have done that, I guess.

They got stomach lining on there.

Let's see, they got soadero, cachette,

one of those probably is.

I don't know.

I don't know what the word for like stomach lining is.

Jeff was telling us at Quantos Tacos, you can get a six-pack of tacos, which you should if you get.

Interesting.

There was one that was a weird one.

I thought it was stomach lining, but I wasn't going to get it.

Emily was.

The thing about those, that's the kind of, when I think tacos, like, that's why I go to like one taco in Austin, because you get, you can get the little two-biter.

Yeah.

And then you only have to order...

If you order three tacos, the guy doesn't make fun of you because what you do is you spread it.

You take the two tortillas and you spread it out.

And then you take the overpack from the two tacos and you can make like two tacos out of it so then you get six and he doesn't he doesn't call you like names that you don't quite understand yeah yeah yeah

when you order he doesn't go moss and you go our okay thank you sorry i tell you man uh as we're sitting here in the front of this adorable little old white house probably built in the 40s that is LT gray next to this other adorable little white house with all the

white houses with all the iron fencing and then this wall behind us with all the Texasy cowboy shit painted on it, including little aliens and cactuses and roses and a lot of snakes and boots.

It's just a very Austin

feeling place.

I am starting to regret leaving the east side.

Yeah, I mean, I've been over here a lot lately because of

this and also...

going over to try to eat Aquantos tacos and stuff.

And, you know, I lived over here on this side of town for probably 12, 14 years, and I don't need more.

And god damn, is it cute and adorable?

Well, I will say, you know, too expensive to move back to.

Yeah, the

that look or this look and this feel of East Austin

that you're, you know, you say you miss does not exist where you used to live anymore.

I think that that target is moving.

Yes.

You know, where

you lived.

is definitely very different.

Like, I think at one point it was like this, probably back.

Yeah.

It's a little more established now.

Yeah, almost 20 years ago.

But

the moving eye of gentrification has moved south, has moved in a different direction

and is over here now.

Now that you point it out, it's really bothering me that all these houses are white.

Really?

All of them.

I guess that one over there is almost like a pale blue right across the street from us, but they are all white.

Well, there's it's there's really only these.

It's like a little spot of just these houses, too, right?

There's not everything else around here is like more industrial or businesses.

For now.

For now.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was saying probably not for long.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's just, you know, that's one of the things we always talk about is like that constant evolution of the city and the constant like

moving of whatever is hot or whatever people want.

It's probably good that I don't live over this part of town anymore because

it is where all the partying and drinking, it's a great place to be in your 20s and 30s when you like to go out and drink and be social and stuff.

But if you're close to 50 and trying to stay sober, probably not.

Probably better that I don't live over here anymore you know where I can walk to 86 bars from my front door

but you can at least visit over a couple times a week it's nice to get

it's nice to get back to the side of town I never I never thought Austin would be big enough and busy enough where it would feel like effort to go from one side to the other like California style but we're definitely there now well if anything it's like it's not necessarily that the city's growing bigger it's also just a matter of like the congestion and getting from one part to another i guess that's what i mean by bigger it's it's it's filling out, right?

Like I have a friend that lives down southeast over down by kind of by the old office.

And I went to go spend a couple days with him.

He's a painter and we were hanging out.

And

it took me like an hour to get from my house to his house the other day in traffic.

And that's like 15 minutes away.

That was like 60 minutes.

I was late because I didn't consider that, yeah, Austin is crazy, crazy fucking busy.

I went.

And it is now hard to get from one side of town to the other.

How often do you find yourself driving on 35?

Not often.

Twice a week, maybe?

Okay.

I don't know.

When I come, I go, I pass 35.

I cross it to go.

But you know, I'm not just being like on up.

I really love it.

I feel like I spend way less time on it than I ever did in the past just because it has become so difficult.

And I felt like we talked about this years ago when, you know, back in the late 90s, early 2000s, about how the mark of being someone who spent any appreciable amount of time in Austin is figuring out how to get where you're going going without getting on 35 or without using any of the highways, like in the pre-GPS days, like knowing like, oh, it's going to be really backed up now.

I've got to figure out another way to get around there.

And

that skill may still be useful, but GPS negates it and everywhere is full.

It doesn't matter what route you take.

Right.

It's going to be

a good way to get everywhere.

So everybody goes the same ways.

Oh, that's why they call it that.

I just got it.

I'm realizing, quick sidebar.

I'm realizing here, we've talked about this before in previous episodes.

You can can see one of the moon towers from here.

Oh, yeah.

It's off just a little east of here.

You can see the top of it peeking out over some construction over there.

How many of those we got left?

Like 12 or 16, something like that?

I think it was like 10 or 12 somewhere.

Yeah, we got a half of them left, and I think we ordered 36 totally.

Yeah, there's three weeks.

And you still see one of them over there.

I say we, as if I was in Austin in 1890 when they were ordered.

1893, I think, is when they ordered them.

But yeah, they're over there.

So

I was thinking the other day, I don't remember, it would stop me if we've talked about this before.

I was thinking about anime-related stuff or stuff that maybe we haven't talked about in a while.

And do we ever talk about when

Jack's laptop got stolen?

We've talked about it in other stuff.

I don't know if we've talked about it on this podcast.

I don't know if I know about this.

His laptop got stolen?

We were out shooting

the Doom immersion, which was like you get loaded up with a bunch of stuff and like try to, you know, walk around and do an obstacle course like carrying a bunch of guns.

Yeah, you know how like, video game characters have unrealistic inventories, yeah.

Yeah, so we were trying to, like, physically carry everything in the Doom Guy's inventory.

And uh, I fucking killed it, by the way.

We found out that uh, Jack's house had gotten broken into.

Oh, wow.

And they had stolen

different reaction,

they had stolen a bunch of his stuff, like video game console, like all his electronics.

What?

I hit him twice.

Are you serious?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

And couldn't carry it all, like, Doomguy's inventory.

You're the most defeated I've ever seen a human being.

And one of the things they stole was his laptop.

And Jack, I remember, was really worried.

He's like, man, you know, they took my laptop.

I don't even have a password on it.

I was like, what do you mean you don't have a password on?

He's like, yeah, I don't want to type it.

So it's like you open it and it's just, you know, it's just logged in.

It's just there.

Like, well, that's dumb as hell.

Yeah.

But it worked in our favor.

Because at the time, it was before we used, you know, before the internet was very different back then, right?

Like, we still ran our own web server.

I was the guy who ran it.

It was before Adam Baird worked with us.

And I was like, well,

if they open your laptop

and

I was like, did you leave your email program open?

He's like, yeah.

It's like, well, if they open your laptop and it's just logged in, if they connect to their Wi-Fi, your email program will try to check its email.

I said, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to change your password so that...

it'll start rejecting it.

Then I'm going to set up a small script to monitor the email log, the email server log.

And when I see rejected logins from your account, we'll know what their IP address is, and we can give it to the police, and the police can find these people and arrest them.

What year was this where you were going to give the IP address to cops?

It's 2009, maybe?

Was it that early?

2000.

I mean, it was downtown.

Was it that late?

No, we were, were we downtown?

Yeah, we were downtown.

We didn't know Jack before downtown.

I'm sorry, I spoke wrong.

I thought maybe it was Ralph Alblonedo, but 2009, 2009, 2010, something like that.

It was definitely, we were definitely in the downtown office.

But I had my Prius, which I bought in in 2010.

Oh, you know what?

I'm a fucking liar.

I'm sorry, Gus.

We weren't downtown.

Yeah.

Because we didn't start immersion until we were in Ralph Albano.

Correct.

So it must have been 2010.

Yeah.

Because I think I had just gotten my Prius.

Anyway, so it was 2010.

Okay.

So

I set up this script, and then when we see it, I see it eventually.

Like, it alerts me.

Like, oh, if you'll log in from Jack's email account, like, oh, shit, we got this guy's IP address.

I look it up.

It's like, it's like a...

at the time, like a Time Warner cable, like some guy.

I can't see who owns the or who's using the address I can just I just know it's like a Time Warner customer so I contact the police and I'm like hey

I'm calling about this case number or whatever you know this is the guy's IP address who stole everything he just connected to the internet and they're like it's it's his what now

saw that coming for a mile away they weren't ready for McGus the crime dog

dude it took days to talk to different people and to explain to them what the hell I was talking about.

It was like, what do we do?

It's like, you need to contact Time Warner, find out which of their customers has this IP address at this time.

That's who took everything.

The stolen items are there.

Then I never heard from them.

And then, like,

a week or two later, they're like, they told Jack, like, yeah, we found the guy.

We arrested him.

And we got all your stuff back.

It's like, yeah, he'd been stealing stuff for weeks almost.

Like, they found tons of stolen items.

It wasn't just Gus.

He had been like hitting everybody in the neighborhood.

Or, sorry, Jack.

Yeah.

Did they use his IP address to catch him?

Yes.

Wow, way to go.

So you caught him.

Yeah.

So I broke a fucking crime ring and explained to APD how to do that.

The crime ring was one dude who was a drug addict.

Who lived with his parents in the same neighborhood as Jack.

Yeah.

He was a fucking neighbor.

Oh my God.

And I remember because we were out there filming that.

And the reason I bring up the Doom immersion was it was kind of relevant.

It's like all this was going on while we were out there filming it.

And I had at the time one of those little 3G hotspots.

And I remember connecting my laptop to it out there and like trying to log into our mail server and quickly write a stupid little script to scrape the email server log to search for Jack's logins.

And it was like so slow and unreliable.

And now it'd be a fucking, I could do it from my fucking phone.

It's so stupid how quickly that technology has advanced.

Oh, man.

I got to say, I was mentioning this to Eric a little bit inside.

I was trying to come up with stuff to talk about today or think about and the type of things to think about.

But I am just in such a state of almost zen today.

I don't know.

I didn't really.

Your chakra's glowing.

What's that?

Your chakra's glowing.

Thanks, man.

I really appreciate that.

It feels like it is.

And so it's always nice to be recognized and validated.

I didn't anticipate this feeling, but Achievement Hunter officially ended yesterday.

And

it's like beating a video game.

It's like beating Starfield.

I assume I haven't beaten it yet.

But

it just feels like a mission complete.

And I just feel so at peace and at ease and so released from worry and responsibility and care and all of those things that I just, man.

It's time for New Game Plus.

I guess I'm doing that with the Let's Play Channel, right?

You're prestiged already.

I prestige.

Yeah.

Anyway, I just like, oh man, I just feel so fucking mellow and relaxed.

Maybe that's why the coffee tastes so good.

Maybe everything's a little better today.

Wow.

You didn't anticipate feeling like that at all?

I guess I just didn't think about it.

I was too busy dealing with the reality of it and trying to get a bunch of stuff filmed and

all the things that go around in the background.

And

it's not like that happened in a, like that whole period happened in a vacuum.

It also happened in a time when face is busier than ever.

And I'm also planning a wedding.

And there's just a lot of shit going on in my life.

And so I guess I didn't.

I didn't forecast out how I was going to feel in the future.

I was kind of just dealing with what I was going through at the moment.

And so it's just a night, it's a happy surprise.

And I just, I'm, so I say, I'm loving, I like you guys a little bit more today.

Oh, thanks.

I appreciate you a little bit more really do anything, but I mean okay

I

just I'm I'm appreciating life.

Yeah, yeah, did you feel that way when when you didn't have to do RTP anymore?

It felt like a weight off my shoulders for sure weight off my shoulders

just because with with RTP it was like this immovable obligation right it was like no matter what this has to happen.

And, you know, you know, you help, you produce it for a long time.

Like, no matter what curveballs come at you or scheduling mishaps happen or holidays get in the way, it's like you have to figure this out all the time.

There is no getting away from it.

And it was,

I don't know, after a while, it starts, it's not the right word, but it's the closest word I could think of.

Like, it's almost like dread.

Like, this has to happen.

You cannot escape it.

You know,

I think people are going to hear dread and take it in like the worst way, but it's the way that you feel when you have to go to work on, you know, it's Sunday and you're thinking about, oh, fuck, I got to go to work tomorrow on Monday.

I think that's all it is.

It's having a job.

Like that's, it's the kind of thing where it becomes the work and it's the expected thing.

And I think dread is a fine word for it.

And I think you mean it in the least negative way.

Yeah, for sure.

And, you know, one of the things that we always talk about, or I shouldn't speak for everyone, one of the things I always talk about that I enjoy is, you know, here having the flexibility to do new things and find new things.

And, you know, being

locked into doing that for so long for so many years kind of hamstrings your ability to work on other things

so having that removed is like is it's very freeing to be able to commit your time your mental energy like Jeff you're talking about just like being so you know focused on so many different things like having one thing removed from that plate is great.

It's also it's not like

like you don't realize it and maybe it's like this in all professions, but I've worked in a creative propression for so long, it's kind of all I can remember.

But whether you're actively thinking about it or not, if you're a part of a production, it's always occupying some idle cycles in your brain.

You know, it's like some part of my brain, even right now, is devoted to so alright, and some of it is devoted to face, and most of it is devoted to this because I'm in the moment.

And then if this was last week, some of it would still be devoted to Achievement Hunter and worrying about them and worrying that they're doing okay, even though I wasn't a part of it directly for the last few years.

It's still, it's the thing I helped create and birth and that you care about.

And it's the exact same way with the RT podcast.

And

I think dread isn't, it is, and it isn't the right word, right?

Like, as close as I could get.

I always remember, and probably why I was suited for this career,

when I was in the Army, I was fortunate enough to get to do a lot of cool stuff as a journalist and photojournalist.

But

one of the more challenging things I did that I really got a lot out of is

the end of my time in Fort Hood before I moved to New Jersey, I was one of the editors on the largest newspaper in the Army, the Fort Hood Sentinel.

At the time, it may not still be the largest newspaper in the Army.

Largest weekly, let me rephrase that because I think Army Times might be larger.

Largest weekly newspaper in the Army.

And

that's a lot of work.

And so you spend all week writing articles and editing and working with stringers and putting the newspaper together, doing all the layout design and everything.

And then Wednesday morning, you get up and part of the job was to run newspapers around the headquarters building.

We were the ones that would put it out.

And then I didn't put it out the other, the other 100,000 newspapers.

We just did that building for some reason.

It's part of our job.

And it was such a sense of accomplishment because you're proud of it.

You put it out.

You got a great story.

You got a great story.

I was the leisure editor, so I would get to do a lot of fun stuff, right?

I got to go to Austin a lot and do a lot of stories on Austin.

It's part of how I fell in love with Austin.

And you have this amazing sense of pride.

You've put the thing out, and then you look up and you realize you see a clock and you're like, I'm already behind on the next week's episode.

And then you have to turn around and you don't even have a chance to revel in the success and the joy of putting out a good product because you have to immediately jump back in and get to work on the next one.

And it's just the cycle never

ends.

It never ends.

The newspaper always comes out.

The podcasts always come out.

We were a 300, Richard is a 365-day year company, and it always has been.

Well, it grew.

It hasn't always been.

It grew to become one and has been one since.

And so

that...

There's just a withering effect after years and years and years and years and years of that process, you know?

And it can become dread.

And you can dread something that you love.

You can dread something that you're invested in, that you care about.

It's human to just be exhausted from that cycle.

And I just think anybody that works in a creative industry like this where you're constantly pumping out content

probably understands intuitively.

And maybe there's probably a lot of people out there that are

can speak to it more intelligently, though.

But and can put it in, but can find a better word than dread for it.

But yeah, I get it.

And I understand that it definitely seems negative because of the connotations with the word, but I don't feel it in a negative way.

And I didn't feel it negatively from you because I get it.

I get what you mean.

Yeah, it's just that, like, I mean, there's just a timer.

And no matter what, that thing's going to happen.

You know, it's...

And especially

the big problem, the big thing I always hated was that we did the RTP on Monday.

So if there were three-day weekends or company holidays and we weren't working on Monday, we had to do a pre-tape.

Then around Thanksgiving, Christmas, around the holiday season, it's like, oh, then you're doing multiple pre-tapes.

It's like, oh, but you're hamstring because you can only do it certain days because other people have to use the space to.

And it's like musical chairs trying to figure all this stuff out.

you know, knock out a bunch of them at once.

Yeah, that was always the hard part for Achievement Hunter, too.

It's like everybody wants to and deserves to take two weeks off at Christmas and spend time with their family and decompress and have a vacation.

But the audience is off work because they're on their vacation and they want to be entertained.

And so, you know, we would go through these hell weeks with Achievement Hunter where you would say, all right, between December 1st, actually, between like November 15th and December 15th, we have to film all of the Thanksgiving stuff so there can be a short Thanksgiving break.

We have to

film all the Christmas stuff.

Then we have to film the first week of January stuff because people are going to be coming back in at different times.

And so you're having these weeks where you're filming the current content plus the next week's content plus the next week's content.

And you're doing like six weeks of content or six times the amount of content in the span of like a week or two, and then, which is awesome because it allows you to go on vacation, but you go on a vacation so fucking depleted because you just went through that.

But you can enjoy it.

But you can, well, you can enjoy it because you're fucking exhausted.

You're tired.

And then, and I was always, I get it, but it's like, and then if you don't do it, the audience is like, where's my fucking Minecraft?

And you're like, oh, we're so tired.

We have been kind of going through that with Stinky Dragon right now because

they're filming the Stinky Dragon Adventures right now, which is the puppet series.

So we had to bank up a bunch of episodes before that leading up to it.

And then now that they're in production filming that, whenever there's free time, we have to tape two episodes at once.

So it's like back-to-back recordings, which is

you know, it doesn't sound too bad like, oh, boo-hoo, you have to play D ⁇ D for six hours in a row, but it can be draining.

And especially I feel bad for Micah, who's the writer, because it's hard to get ahead because what happens in the future depends on what happens in the next episode.

So it's not like he can just write out the entire arc and be done with it.

It's like, oh, we need to see what they do, where they end up.

And it's been real, like, go, go, go.

Okay, wait, wait, wait, go, go, go.

Also, because I know people hear that and they're like, you're just playing D D.

I would kill to play D D for six hours.

A, that's not what they're doing.

They're filming a production.

And I guarantee you, if it was just D and D, it would be very different.

Every single person that's making that production, while they're performing and enjoying and creating, they also, in the back of their mind are going, is this going in a direction that's good?

Are we hitting the beats that we need to?

Are we wrapping this up?

Am I talking enough?

Am I talking too much?

Should I cut that person off?

Should I give them more room?

Should I let them explore?

There's a lot going on in your brain at the same time.

It's not just playing DVD, DVD, D ⁇ D, but just take a step back and look in your life.

Maybe today you went to the gym for an hour and a half, which is awesome.

Good job.

Now go home and then turn around and go back to the gym for another hour and a half.

It's fucking, it is exhausting.

Go grocery shopping, come home, put the groceries away, and then turn around and go back to the grocery store to do it again.

Anytime you have to double up on something, it wears you out.

And I don't want to sound ungrateful or like I'm bitching like boohoo my life so hard.

Nobody's like going to take that for you.

Yeah, it's just like that's the reality of it.

It's like it's a lot of work to do all at once.

It's like fits and starts.

And then for like I'm not really involved with Stinky Dragon Adventures, it's even harder for them because they've been busting ass filming that

series.

And everything I've seen so far looks great.

It's amazing what they've been doing.

That's coming out relatively soon.

I think that comes out in November, if I remember right.

So a little over a month away.

And I can't wait to see the final product on that.

That's my little plug for the other project.

I will say,

it's impossible to predict this stuff.

But I will say, after spending a little bit of time, Barb gave me a tour of them filming the other day.

And

the instant, I think we probably talked about this recently in this podcast, but the vibe I got in that room, it felt like early RVB days.

It felt like early Ruby days.

It felt like you walk in and you can tell when somebody's catching lightning in a bottle.

It is electric.

You can feel it in the air.

It makes your skin stand up.

It makes you want to be a part of it instantly.

It makes you not want to leave that room and be like, oh, you guys need an extra puppeteer?

Oh, you guys,

and then you realize, oh, I'm just in their way.

I got to get out of here.

This is their thing.

But that feeling is so, it so permeates what they're doing in that room that I'm just very excited for the audience and for them.

Yeah, it's it's hard.

I'm doing my best to stay out of their way because I am involved with Stinky Dragon, but it's like not necessarily with the the puppets, and I'm super excited about it, and I like helping, but at the same time, I acknowledge I get in the way.

So it's like, I like to look, and I'm be like, hey, if you need any help, I'm here.

But I have to stay away.

Otherwise, I'm just going to slow them down.

You also have to, it's a weird position to be in.

I guess it only affects you and I these days.

Probably Hullum.

But

there's a mosquito buzzing around your head, by the way.

Yeah, get away.

Fucking mosquitoes are back somehow.

By the way, they were all over my backyard yesterday.

Is you and I are founders of the company, right?

I don't know why there would be an airplane.

Okay, well you and I are founders of the company.

And

that comes with a certain like weight where

people feel like they have to give you

some access or respect or whatever at times.

And you have to acknowledge that when you walk in a room because

you're not always helping when you're there.

And it's very hard for people to go like, hey, founder, get the fuck out of here.

You're in the way.

So I always try to keep that in the back of my head.

Because you don't want to do like the Gabe Newell thing thing where you just walk in and go from room to room and go, oh, what are you guys doing?

What are you guys making here?

Oh, cool.

Well, can I help?

You know, you're like, no, Gabe,

go run the company.

Get the fuck out of here.

He walked in on us once.

I know, that's why I brought it up.

At Valve.

Really making it special.

Yeah.

Specifically, why I brought that up.

Really?

Yeah.

What were you guys working on?

He just wandered around

Left 4 Dead TV commercial, I believe.

The time I'm thinking of was actually earlier than that.

We were there for a meeting and he just wandered in.

He wasn't involved in the meeting.

Yeah.

And then he was like, hey, what's going on here?

What's the meeting about?

Oh,

okay.

I can't imagine walking around, seeing a meeting and going, walking in and going, what's this meeting?

What are we doing?

What are we talking about?

Yeah.

So, what are we talking about?

I don't think I was there for the Left 4 Dead commercial.

Yeah.

I went up there for the Portal 2 commercial.

So I spent a lot of time up there doing that one.

How many things did you guys do with Valve?

Those two?

I think those two.

I think that was it.

We had a real good relationship with Valve, and I feel like we worked with them.

We worked with them on some stuff that I don't know if it ever came out, that I don't feel comfortable talking about.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know that.

That's interesting.

And I say we, it was more Bernie and Matt on that thing.

But yeah, we did some consulting work with them a little bit.

And I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer we didn't work with pretty closely there for a while, especially when we were doing, especially when we were in that unique period where we were the only people on Earth who knew how to film video games.

And so every ad agency in the world wanted to work with us they had a

so

they while we you know we worked with them for several years over different with different projects and when they moved from their first office to the other one where that's the one where we filmed the portal commercial i thought they had a really cool setup there where all the desks were self-contained like the computer and the monitor, everything was attached to the desk.

The only thing that came out from the desk to the ground was like a power cord and

a network cable.

Yeah.

So it's like they, if you wanted to, you could just like unplug your computer and roll it over to a different part of the building and work on whatever project they were working on.

So it's like it was very, a very mobile, agile workforce.

It was like you pick the things you want to work on and you work on that, which I thought was really cool.

Yeah, but that might

that it seems tough from a resource perspective.

You're trying to work on something and get something done and then everyone rolls away from you.

You're like, oh, great.

Was their office cool?

Well, I smell?

Oh, I do.

Yeah, it was.

It was really nice.

I mean, I remember they had, like, at the time, it's been, God, the last time I was there was when Portal 2 came out, just to put it in perspective, right?

So I'm sure things are different now.

At the same time, Portal 3, dude.

They had it was almost like a convenience store set up in the office where, like, but that was just, like, their snack room.

It's like, oh, this looks like I just walked into a 7-Eleven, but you just take whatever you want and just leave.

And, like, go back to your desk.

But it was just, people were so dedicated, you know, so working so so many long hours and so hard on different things but it was an interesting place just because

out of all you know we've been like Jeff said we've been to many different developers all over all over the place and all over the world that was the one developer who when we showed up to work on projects gave us like a key card for the building and was like we don't have to escort you around we don't have to you know babysit you here's access to the building 24 hours a day come and work whenever you want do whatever you need to do and when you're done just leave you know return return these key cards even Bungie, who we knew better than, clearly we knew better than any other developer and who we had a really beautiful relationship with, and I cannot say enough good things about the people that worked at Bungie and then 343, like genuinely wonderful people.

But trying to get into Bungie was like fucking Fort Knox.

And it's like, I've been here 108 times, and it's still, you go through the same protocol every time.

The security guard always played a game where, well, it wasn't a game, actually.

It was not a game.

No matter how many times he met you or no matter how many times he saw you,

he was seeing you for the first time every time you showed up.

Even if you'd go to lunch and come back.

Yeah, I'd be like, I have no idea who you are.

It was like, okay, go in, keep your eyes on the floor, turn right, go straight, first office on the right.

That's all you're allowed to go to, and that's all you're allowed to see.

And they would be like, like, I remember when they were showing Bernie and I reach for the first time.

When we, like, I saw Bernie kind of have the idea to continue RVB in that room in that moment, which was a really cool day.

Even then, they put us in this little conference room with a Xbox and a TV and early build.

And they said, you don't leave this room.

You don't leave this room.

And we're like, why don't I have the other bathroom?

And they're like, we'll come get you.

Yeah.

I get it.

And it had to be that way.

I don't begrudge it.

It was funny.

It was a funny part of it.

Definitely a different times kind of thing, too.

Yeah.

Especially when you're talking about the convenience store and all that stuff.

It's just, it's not that long ago, but man, it feels like a lifetime ago.

Like the way that people worked in offices and the way that people, like, we're working long hours and we have to be at this thing.

And we, like, so here's a ping pong table.

Yeah.

Oh, absolutely.

Dude, every office.

That's how Razor was.

That's just by virtue of, like,

you're here for a long time.

Sorry.

Like, here's Doritos.

And you go, okay.

But now it's like, and I think it's by virtue of like high-speed internet, every literally everywhere and security being a different kind of path or route, a lot of work from home.

And I don't see that changing.

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Have you gotten to the Simpsons episode where Bart ends up working for that

tech company?

And

the only thing I remember about it is it's the similar kind of vibe where they turn the communal spaces into playgrounds to trick you into staying 17 hours a day.

And they just had company stock on toilet paper rolls and

like just have some more stock.

Take it.

It was when they were making Angry Dad.

That's right.

Into a web series.

Yeah, yeah.

What season is that?

That's like season...

I want to say that's like season 20, if I'm remembering right, but I could be wrong.

I'm up to season 26 on my rewatch right now.

It's a whole new world.

They definitely nailed it in that episode.

How are you liking season 26?

It's a lot of stuff that I don't remember I might be seeing for the first time.

Yeah.

And a lot of weird episodes.

The episode I watched this morning,

Homer and some of the people form a cover band, and Apoo's their lead singer.

Do you laugh every episode you watch?

There's at least one or two good jokes.

That's the nice thing about the Simpsons.

You will smile or chuckle at least once every episode.

Have you watched the new Futurama?

No, I haven't.

I watched the first episode.

I just watched the Simpsons Futurama crossover episode from season 26 yesterday.

Man.

It's cute.

It's cute, and I enjoy it.

And I thought it was, like the way they kick it off is kind of cool.

But then I, and I'm a big fan of Groening and futurama and everything that he's done.

But even when I was watching it, I was like, it's good.

It's cool, but I don't know if I, you know, I don't know.

I don't know that I'll continue it.

I probably will.

That show

has been canceled and come back, what, like, it's just had so many lives and deaths.

It's been kind of a bit of a roller coaster.

And then every time they end it, they end up more poignantly than the last time.

And I'm like, that's a good way to stop it.

And then it comes back.

It's cool.

It's like on the spot.

Yeah.

I want to talk about that golden gus here here in a second.

But

I feel like the same thing happened with Family Guy, and people don't remember that.

Someone at the office was talking about Family Guy the other day.

I was like, oh, dude.

Yeah, they got canceled.

Do you remember why they came back?

DVD sales.

Really?

That is why they came back.

They had sold like a million and a half DVDs.

They put it on Adult Swim, and the DVDs were like, you couldn't keep them in the fucking

100%.

That show came back from the dead purely because of physical media.

I feel like a lot of people have forgotten that that show went away and then

for a while and then came back.

And because Seth McFarland didn't get on that flight.

I forgot about that.

So On the Spot's back, I did the first new episode of The Return of On the Spot last week, and the Golden Gust went missing.

People keep asking me if I have it as if I stole it and have it at home and I'm not telling anyone.

I don't want it.

Yeah, you got it.

I didn't.

I have, yeah.

You've got the real Gust.

I've got the real one.

24 hours a day.

You've got the aluminum gust or whatever you are.

So they had to make a new version version of the Golden Gust trophy, but we don't have

the technology or the facilities to do that kind of capture and printing.

So

Tyler took a bunch of photos of me with his phone and then 3D printed a replacement and painted it.

And it was unveiled in that first episode.

And I was a little insulted.

What do you mean?

That's you.

Do you have a photo of the back?

It's a twin brother.

No, I don't.

Its butt is a rectangle.

They had had to stand up i was like i don't really look like that do i

but uh yeah on the spot's back for like four episodes i think i don't know a few episodes

it was it was it was fun to be back to some new games uh i was on the team with carrie

ah good old dragon face i love carrie yeah i don't i don't get to do as much with him same i get so happy when i see him but i rarely rarely see him yeah it's uh so anyway go check that out too that's back that's uh my the other thing i was on that i'm promoting you know it's funny You were talking earlier about going up to C-Valve, and it got me thinking about just trips that we would take, and less trips that we would take, but more like eras of trips.

That was definitely a period of time when it felt like we were in Seattle all the time.

All the time.

Constantly.

And then there was a period, and I was thinking, like, what other eras do we have?

I feel like there was a...

And I guess our eras can be different because we were doing stuff independently of each other.

You know, we were like, you handle this, I'll handle this.

But I had a, I think the earliest era was in New York.

I felt like we were in New York four times a year, five times a year for a couple of years there.

And then there was the Portland era, right?

We were in Portland all the time.

There was the Seattle era.

There was a San Francisco era.

It was very fleeting.

Where?

San Francisco.

Less fleeting for me.

I was in San Francisco.

I had a couple of San Francisco errors because I worked with Kind of Funny a lot too

for a second time period.

And then that was back when Achievement Hunter was running, was producing content for Ubisoft and for their YouTube channel.

And so I was up there.

So there was a period where, like, I went to

San Francisco maybe like eight times a year for like two years there.

And then I think I thought there was a Florida era, right?

Yeah.

Where we were doing conventions, but also you were going down there to Tiburon

to do work on commercials and stuff.

And then I guess there was an LA era before Funhouse when we were doing commercial work there.

Oh, that's it, right?

We didn't have any other, there were no other spots that we were

an acre to.

That's about it.

Yeah.

Did you ever go to the YouTube headquarters?

Yes, the one.

Wait.

Do you mean the one that had the in the big airplane hangar that had the no, that's the Creator Space Out in LA?

I was talking about like their headquarters up in the Bay Area, like South of San Francisco.

Yeah, I forgot to say that.

It's by the San Francisco airport.

I don't know what city it is.

No, but I think I saw a Vince Vaughan movie that took place there.

Oh,

isn't that Google?

The interns.

Was that Google?

Yeah.

So, yeah, I guess.

YouTube and Google are the same thing.

I mean, yes, but no, it's a different building.

I went there once to do a presentation at the YouTube headquarters.

And the reason I bring it up is like we're talking about all these trips and all the things you've seen.

I remember I walked in and you check in at the front desk and they were like, okay, you know, just have a seat over there and whoever you're here to meet, we'll come out and see you here in a minute.

I remember I sat down and I looked to my left and there was like a server rack, like a server cage.

I thought, that's weird.

I wonder why that's out here.

So I stood up and walked over to it and it had like a little plaque on it.

It was like, this was the first YouTube server, you know, booted up on this date in 2004, whenever it was.

Like, man, that's really, that's really weird and really cool.

That's like, oh, that's where it started right there.

Yeah.

Like that piece of hardware.

I don't know if they still have it in the lobby, but it was just a cool bit of internet history to be able to see in person.

What do you think the coolest

building or

place you've visited is?

For a commercial work, for all this stuff?

Like when we were doing.

Is it Bungie?

Is it Microsoft?

Is it Valve?

Is it.

I think my answer, and I've mentioned it before, it's going to be Prologue

out in Venice.

Not because the building was cool, but because even before Rooster Teeth, I was such a fan of, and I've not been a video game fan, but I was such a fan of all the film work that Prologue did.

I always admired Kyle Cooper and all the work that they put out.

So it was really cool for me to go there and

to be in that building.

What about you?

It was definitely a surreal experience to, I remember the day we got there, the first day we got there, and we signed a bunch of NDAs and stuff, and we walked in, and they were really, they hit us really hard about like, keep your fucking mouth shuts about what's going on in here.

And just getting to see, oh,

that's a, I don't know, I'm not gonna say it.

Even if it was 10 years, 15 years ago, I still don't want to

say it.

But it's like, oh, that's a major video game companies thing there, and that's a major comic book movie thing going on over there.

And like, you're just sitting in the middle of it, and you're watching all the stuff that you love being worked on around you.

And you're like, I'm doing something.

I'm

like, I'm a peer at the moment.

It was fucking wild.

Legit.

What about you?

Do you have a

I don't know, man.

Wyden Kennedy was really cool.

That was really cool.

It's a really beautiful building and it was a really cool vibe.

I liked that a lot.

Less the people, more the building.

There were some cool people there.

There were some great people there.

There were some great people there.

I think I really liked Lost Planet.

Yeah.

I don't know.

We can say that, right?

Yeah.

I don't know why we couldn't.

There's a finishing house that we would work at in Venice.

Santa Marco.

Santa Santa Marco, sorry.

I really liked those people.

I really liked that building.

I really liked what we were making there.

I

didn't like one or two dudes that we were working with.

Yeah, there were some difficult people.

But that was where I got into a fucking screaming match with a screaming match, but a yelling match with one of the creatives there because he had unreal expectations of what a video game can do

at that time.

But yeah, I really liked that place.

There was that cool bar across the street that we would get.

The Pirate Bar.

The Pirate Bar.

Yeah.

That was fun times.

Yeah, that's a.

We did.

We spent a lot of time there.

That's definitely like LA era.

We spent a lot of fucking time there.

Like, that's when I really got to know the layout of LA.

Like,

I know where to go and where things are in relation to each other.

That's where you saw that dude get hit by a car?

Yes.

It was a woman, but yes.

That lady get hit by a car.

Yeah, we were right in front of the Viceroy, which was a hot spot at the time.

I remember there was a little breakfast place we would go to because they had

croc masseur that you really liked.

Was that it?

And I think you were on your way to that spot when it happened.

I'm trying to think.

I can't remember.

It sounds vaguely familiar.

That doesn't sound like the dish, though.

I'm trying to think what it is.

It was something like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like right there.

Beautiful area.

Super, super expensive, I'm sure.

I loved, and probably in the moment hated, but looking back on it, I loved all of that work we did, all of that travel.

It was really exciting.

It was really fun to get to experience it with you, and it felt very unique and I felt like we were doing stuff that most people didn't get to do and that was awesome.

But I can't imagine taking one of those trips again.

Here's the thing that bugs me or that stays in my mind about it, right?

Like it was great.

I felt like we were doing good work.

All of that work's ephemeral.

It's all gone.

Yeah.

Like there was no lasting impact.

It was like, bust your ass, make this commercial, which is super important for the next month.

Super important to somebody else.

And then it's gone.

Like sometimes I'll think about a commercial I worked on and I'll try to look up, like I want to see it.

Like, oh, what was that?

And I'll look at try to look for it on YouTube.

It's not there.

Like there's no record of that work ever having been done.

Like we remember it.

We busted our ass on it for someone else and it's forgotten.

It's just gone.

It's just like lost in a wash of everything else.

Yeah.

That was always the trade-off, right?

It's like it's good money,

good short-term money, and it's good connections and it's good relationship building, but we work on that to the, when we're working on that, we're not working on our own internal IP right and that was always the struggle to find and I am glad that eventually we got to a point where we stopped doing all that other stuff just to focus on our stuff yeah and I think

I'll admit like I thought that that other stuff was more important than it was like looking back now it was the right call to ditch all of that yeah but it was important but we needed it yeah we needed it we needed it for a lot of reasons and I

totally agree with you and that was Bernie's rub the whole time is that we should be working on our own IP and he was right but so much good stuff came out of that and it was so necessary that I don't think we could have gotten to the point where we were where we are the company we are right now if we hadn't done that and gone through that we also learned a lot yeah we learned a lot of shit that applied to what we would do later that we wouldn't have learned on our own probably you know what I mean yeah like we were forced into like

somebody gives you a job you don't know if you can do it you got to figure out how to do it right

Fucking that's how we learn and grow.

Do you remember, like, it's funny to think about now, but you know, technology was so primitive at the time.

do you remember the uh that piece of equipment we would have to carry with us just in case they didn't have capture equipment it was an aja i don't know how you saw oh yeah it was like this silver box that was maybe the size of this table with a handle up on it and it had like every possible video input and output on it so you could no matter what no matter what equipment was there when you showed up wherever you were going you could make sure that you were able to capture to capture and do whatever you needed to do how often did we use it very rarely yeah it was it was insurance Right.

Yeah.

Because we did show up places sometimes.

They're like, yeah, we don't have anything.

What do you think happened to that piece of equipment?

You think it's in a warehouse, like in a storage unit somewhere?

It probably is.

Or it's over in

one of the other, like in stage two or something.

Someone wheeled it through stage two, like the end of Raiders of the Lost.

Exactly what I'm thinking.

And it's just like in a box somewhere.

It's in the don't open till the future box.

We're getting close to time, but I do want to talk about the coffee at LT Gray, which we sort of briefly mentioned at the top.

This coffee's so good.

Fucking phenomenal cup of coffee.

Here's the deal.

Uh-huh.

When I wait something, it means nothing.

Yeah.

Because I'm a very, this is the best thing or the worst thing.

Oh, yeah.

I'm a man of extremes.

But I

am genuine when I say

that this is the best cup of coffee I've ever had in my life.

It is unreal.

So better than Desnudo, better than that.

Better than Desnudo.

Better than Fleet.

Better than all gimmicks.

Better than the place I can't remember next to Coral Snake.

Freewheeling.

Freewheeling.

This is my number one cup of coffee in Austin.

Wow.

I wouldn't put it that high.

Me neither.

I think it's excellent.

I don't think it beats any of those other places.

For a black-iced coffee, you will not get a better black-iced coffee.

For me, this is like, it's really good, really smooth, super easy to drink.

This is like eight, eight and a half.

It's excellent.

I still think Des Nudo and some of the other places are better, but that's not a knock on this place just because those places are like the best in my mind.

Put this at like a nine, like an easy nine.

This is a, um, I got it.

The thing I'm always afraid of when I get the drip coffee or just coffee in general from places like this is that they pour it and it's ripping hot and you can't drink it and you have to wait.

This was a good temperature when I got it, and it didn't affect the flavor.

The sort of like fruity floral sort of flavors are there through like the whole cup.

Um,

I'm really impressed with

the taste.

I'm really impressed with like the quality of the coffee.

You can tell that this is a roastery because they, man, they give a fuck about this.

It is really good.

It's really good.

If you're in, if you're in Austin, it's definitely like a place to visit.

I'm gonna have to come back and buy beans sometimes.

If uh, if iced black coffee is your jam, I can't speak to the iced Americano, I can't speak to the drip, but if you just like

if I was respecting his drip, he looks great.

He's got he's all sanitized He's all San Diego out today.

Yeah, yeah, big time.

Got your SDS you have, I'm going to see?

Yeah.

If you just like black iced coffee, I'm telling you, take my word for it, this is better than those other places.

And they're all phenomenal.

I'm going to have to come back and get it.

I'm going to come back and get the beats.

I'm not going to buy them now.

I have plenty of beets.

My buddy from nearby just

roasted another Rwandan that I'm like super high on right now.

When I'm done with that, I'm coming back here.

I'm getting two bags and an iced coffee.

That is, I'm so excited.

They're got big bags, too.

Yeah, they do.

Yeah, they do.

They have some good-sized stuff.

I mean, I'm going to have to break my streak of really only buying beans from Barrett's to come over to LT Gray.

Great name.

Great logo.

Dude, I would get.

This is the kind of little tiger I would definitely get tattooed on.

Absolutely.

This is a tattoo tiger right here.

I like a purpose tiger from Easy Tiger.

This one's like mean and tough.

And the one from Easy Tiger goes, eh.

This guy would kick the shit out of the Easy Tiger Tiger.

The tiger's like, hey, man, take it easy.

Yeah, this is a really, I would really recommend this.

I'm so excited to see

if we keep the street going, too, because fuck, this is a good cup of coffee.

People here are cool.

It's not too crowded.

I mean, it's a Monday morning, so whatever, but there are places to sit.

We're next to a little, it's this kitty goes to Texas, and it looks like that's a salon, maybe in that back corner over there,

which is very cool.

And a little open house Austin thing, which looks like a realtor.

And it's a great little spot.

This is just a cool little tucked away spot, like right off 12th on Selena.

Unassuming.

Yeah.

Very relaxing.

Yep.

A little breeze going on today.

It's nice.

It's nice.

You know, no Gavin on this episode, but I had a good time.

So let's get into a little bit of Anarchy Me Anything.

Let's get a

mugs out.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

The mug is out.

The mug is available.

We sold quite a few of them.

Did we?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We did.

We did.

You guys did a really good job of buying the mug.

Store.roostteeth.com

if you haven't yet.

Thank you for supporting this podcast.

Yeah, thank you.

Because it's this or a couple of t-shirts.

We're not really pushing

super heart.

No, it's, I mean, it's really,

hopefully, you know what?

Kind of peek behind the curtain.

It's been like, oh, you know, what else do you guys want to do?

Is there other merch you guys want to do?

You know, just seeing like what, if there's anything that we want, feel like the mug, feel like the shirts are good or whatever.

We're kind of in talks with some people right now where we might get some beans, where we might do some coffee,

an animal blend,

which I'm very excited about.

That's the thing with productions that, at least I can't speak for Gus, but productions that I'm a part of,

I love merch.

I love making merch.

I love selling merch.

Yeah, if if you feel like a fuckface, you can be.

I'm a bit of a carnival barker.

What if my fridge was a magnet?

But I love making merch that makes sense to the product and the production, right?

I want a magnet.

I hate logo slaps on stuff.

I can't stand it.

I don't want to do that.

And I want the merch to be unique and interesting and it to be of and for

and speak.

speak about the the content that we're making.

And that's why we don't want to do stuff that doesn't make sense for this podcast, which is why you get a coffee cup, maybe a t-shirt, but hopefully some beans.

I don't know what else we can do.

Yeah, I don't know.

If you guys have ideas, let us know.

But what kind of stuff would you want to see?

But I mean, coffee brewing alarm clock.

So that's like the alarm goes off and it makes the coffee for you?

Yeah.

Like it heats the water.

Doc Brown type inventory, yes.

Kind of a Kiwi's big adventure supervisor.

You get woken up by the smell of coffee.

Like it doesn't make a sound or anything.

It just brews the coffee.

It's an alarm clock that doesn't make a sound.

It just brews the coffee.

It's just a coffee maker with a timer.

Did you guys watch that?

Did you guys watch that PV movie that came out on Netflix a couple years ago?

No.

I watched like the first 15 minutes.

It was cute.

I'm sure it was fine.

I don't want to get through the whole thing, but yeah.

Anarchy question.

This is from Gioza.

I hope I said that right.

Dead.

It doesn't really matter.

Paul Rubens.

Super dead.

Yep.

F1 has brought me...

There's a fly and a mosquito.

They were bothering me.

I'm glad to move to you.

Thanks, man.

f1 has brought me to austin from the uk and i love the city but even i've noticed the change over the years and the race getting really busy be curious to know your opinions of f1 and if you've been

and then also any recommendations for meat and vegan food i don't know why you would specify meat um we have a mixed group so but oh a place that has both maybe yeah um so what do you think uh f1 in austin i'm sure you guys have seen it grow for a really long time and you've been yeah i've been to two two.

I'm not going to go this year, but I went to the two previous years.

It is fantastic.

It's awesome.

I love F1.

I love that Austin has Coda and that it's going so well.

I don't know if it still is, but last year, it was the largest.

I think it was the largest attendance of an F1 ever.

Wow.

I think that might have been beaten since then, but like it's been great.

It's great to see what it's done for the city.

I discovered, I think like most Americans, I discovered F1 through Drive to Survive during the pandemic when we were all desperate to find something to do or watch.

And I have been a fan ever since.

I will say the only, the problem I have with F1 these days is that when I got into it, it was...

It was Max Restappen trying to catch up with the unstoppable Lewis Hamilton.

And

that was fun to watch that battle.

Now it's flipped, and Max ReStappen's so far ahead of everybody else that it's incredibly fucking boring.

It really is.

I used to get up every morning, every Sunday morning at like five or six or whenever the game would come on, and Emily and I would watch it in bed, and it'd be the best way to start a day.

And now I just read about who won.

And if there's a crash, I'll go look at it just because it's not competitive.

I talk to Jordan Sweers about it.

He'll just give me the rundown.

Yeah.

But I'm a big fan of F1, big fan of Austin having such a unique and awesome global event.

I think that it's helped open the world up to the charm of Austin, Texas, which was not a global destination before Coda.

Yeah.

And probably isn't a global destination now, but it's gotten closer.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Well, people come for

F1.

People come for MotoGP.

People come for.

I've never been, but I'm really glad that it's here.

When they announced it and when they built it,

I thought it was a very strange location because there was no infrastructure out there.

Like the first couple of years, down here, still not.

Yeah, yeah.

Getting tuned from the track, it was like a dirt road.

I think they've expanded it a a bit, but it's, I mean, I've been out there for other things, not for an F1 race.

But it's, you know, there's really, like, there's no hotels out there.

No, there's nothing out there.

It was a nightmare.

You have to drive to get there.

It was a nightmare to get in and out of last year.

I mean, really, really bad.

People, it was taking like two and three hours in traffic to get there.

I heard not too long, and that was because it was heavy construction and they weren't able to get even close to finishing it before F1 last year.

I heard that not too long after that, there was a Rolling Stones concert that was worse.

Yep.

Way Way worse.

Something like

a large percentage of the people that bought tickets couldn't get there.

Wow.

And just had to turn around and go home because it was such a cluster fuck.

F1 is really interesting.

It's weird that it's in Austin.

Like, it's cool.

Now, it used to be the only American race.

Now they have Miami and they have Vegas that they are.

that they're going to be doing soon.

I was looking at Vegas, but it's too fucking expensive.

I mean, last time we went to Vegas, it was like the construction on the strip is so fucking outrageous.

Cutting down the trees.

Yeah, did you hear that somebody died?

They've been pushing construction so hard, somebody like fell off a building and died.

Yeah, it's been really bad.

And that's sort of how it felt when we were there.

I will say I have friends who work for a company who

they are a

F1 competitor.

And I, me, and Jordan Sweers were lucky enough to go.

And we were in the luxury suite at the start and finish line when we went.

And it was free champagne the whole time and food and walking around and this whole, it was really incredible and really cool.

And then I left and I went, the wealth, the wealth disparity that we just participated in is so outrageous.

The team

of servers in this suite

travel the world for this F1 team because the people who go to these races expect that caliber of service.

And so if you work as a server for like this team, you are traveling Azerbaijan and all of these places to just serve in the suite for

the F1 races.

It was unreal.

I will never go back to a F1 race unless that is the quality.

I started too high.

I can't.

It's all downhill, dude.

You can't.

It's like flying over everything in a hot air balloon and then being told, okay, well, now we're done.

Get in the Honda Accord and drive through.

And you go, I'm not doing that.

No, put me back in the hot air balloon.

And they go, that was a one-time deal.

That's it.

So I'm never going back, I don't think.

It was really crazy.

Fun as hell.

Loud as hell.

Really, really loud.

But it is nothing but engineers building airplanes that stay on the ground.

Right.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Jet, jet propulsion-style vehicles that are not meant to take off.

I grew up,

my stepdad when I was a kid,

fuck him, by the way.

Not my, not my, not my, the guy I consider my father, Larry, who

is dead, rest his soul, but the guy before him, who's a piece of shit,

he was a drag racer.

And so I spent most of my childhood going to like the Gator Nationals and traveling around going to drag races.

And so I'm very well versed in that style of racing.

And I will say,

nothing compares to F1.

Nope.

Like being in the stands, it's unreal.

I've seen videos of people set up a static camera at a racetrack and film

all different kinds kinds of races and then compare it to like the speed of F1 cars going by and it's just like it's unreal how what another level F1 is on you feel it in your bones in the most satisfying way it is that being said it is so goddamn expensive to get a decent seat where you get because it's even in October when it happens in Austin it's still a fucking like it's 96 degrees today isn't high like it's going to be in the 90s and you're just sitting in silver butchers just baking yeah I think f1's three weeks from this past weekend like we're coming up on it

because it's ACL this weekend, next weekend, and then it'll be that.

And I think less people are.

Probably, I mean, they're not going to have trouble selling out, but

they hit me up, you know, because I bought tickets two years in a row, and I was like, I'm taking this shit off.

And they're like, cool, man, cool.

And then they hounded me for months after that.

I think it'll be less local, but it's a global thing.

So it is what it is.

Great.

Hey, good episode.

There's a great vegan restaurant.

I'm going to play real fast.

Okay.

Nissy Vegan Tex-Mex.

Their trailer not too far from here, but they're also a brick and mortar up off by Highland Leightons.

Oh, okay, cool.

Up off of like 183 and

right in that area.

Over by the bingo.

By the bingo.

Over by the bingo.

That place is great.

You know, when I was very strict vegan, that was like that place definitely scratched my itch for Mexican food.

Cool.

And I think even now that I'm a little more lenient, that place is phenomenal.

They have really good food.

Well, great.

Thank you very much.

And if you want some meat, Quantos Tacos,

come to LT Gray and then go

through blocks away to get to that pretty soon.

Sounds pretty good.

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That's not a bad idea.

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That makes sense.

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