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Okay, this is episode 54, but in episode 53, we were at Lebowski's Grill at Highland Lanes.
We talked about Jeff being fired up about bowling.
We talked about the old man with a dull computer that his son gave him.
Oh, yeah, for y'all.
He was darling.
I guarantee if you go to the highland show he's there right now and he'll drink with you uh we talked about bowling alley carpet we talked about if austin is a waving kind of town uh we talked about bouncing tires podcast shower thinking and mountain dew so i saw an interesting comment about waving on the boat that kind of made me turn around a little bit
and the comment was the person said
that the reason they wave is to see if the other person waves back to see if they acknowledge
that they're there.
That's what I was trying to say.
It's like everybody's in the same lane, so you want to make sure y'all see each other.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's, I was like, okay, yeah, I get that then.
You're like, you see me, I see you.
Great.
All good.
That's like the first thing they tell you when you rent like a jet ski or a boat or whatever.
Wave it to you.
Be sure to
wave at the other boats, let them know you see them.
The first thing they tell you is not how you turn it on.
I'm sorry, the third thing they tell you.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
I didn't.
See,
I'm not going to let it get to me today.
I'm gust proof today.
Okay.
I'm not in the mood.
I've decided to turn his ability to affect me off.
But
that's his
little attempt.
I feel like he was making another attempt before we started.
Oh, he was.
I don't remember what it was.
He was being crass about the cabling.
Oh, that's right.
The cabling system that we have that is color-coded.
Yeah, and then mine that was very carefully wrapped up that is now a mess, just like the one I inherited here.
We're at Corral Snake.
Why do you keep calling it that?
I think it's better than Coral Snake.
I think Corral Snake is cooler.
So we are...
Think of a cowboy snake.
Corral Snake.
We are at it.
Way better.
At one of those places in Austin that has been a bunch of different things since I've been here.
It was El Leone.
It was a bar when we first got it.
They still have that sign there.
Yeah, they still have the sign here.
Then it got hipstered and it became a place called Stay Gold for a couple of years, I believe.
One of the...
Uh-oh.
Is that coming through in the...
Oh, yeah, it is.
So, yeah, that's like one of the places that gentrification has fully embraced and like and fully enveloped like the gentrification line has passed here they still have the old e-leon sign which is cool it's cool that they framed it and kept it alive yeah uh but that's like that's like what every business down here had a sign like that and that's what it was at some point and now it's corral snake now it's coral snake
coral snake it's well painted I'll say like a like a corral snake it's weird to be sitting right exactly like a corral snake uh it's weird to be sitting on the patio of a bar 15 hours before it opens
But it was open.
The door was open at least.
Yeah, I guess Freewheeling Coffee is just like a little trailer.
And they have one table that's directly in the sun, but the gate to
the seating area for Coral Snake is open.
So you just come in here.
When it was that gold place, before it was Corral Snake, this is one of the last spots I drank at.
Oh, really?
Yeah,
I'd kind of moved away from E6 because it got a little too much, and had moved over here.
There's a place here, there was a place across the street called Drinks, kind of catty corner that I would go to sometimes, and it was a lot more low profile a lot easier to get drunk in the dark
but uh you know and then i stopped doing that eric's taking a photo
we are in see
we are in caesar chavez in east austin yeah we're we're right by well really close to juan in a million which you and i were having a very uh
i didn't realize we we had such diverging opinions about that place i think it's incredibly mediocre It's fine.
It's not like...
I would never go out of my way to go there.
I wouldn't either, but you spoke
a disdain in your tone talking about that.
Yeah, I just don't like the reverence people hold for it.
I don't like that there's a line out the door every morning to go there to get mediocre because it's big.
It's big.
We got a big taco.
We got a big burrito.
It's big.
They got the Don Juan, which is like the breakfast taco.
It's like supposedly one taco, but they give you a bunch of tortillas because you can make like five out of it.
It's so fucking huge.
But it's like, that's, I mean, I feel like...
If for nothing else, you should like that place just because it's still holding on here in this place where
the early on is gone and the gentrification line has moved past here and you know they're still they're still doing their thing that place is largely unchanged in the last 25 years on the end for sure and there are a lot of places like that that I just have never liked it I didn't like it back then so I don't like it now there's places around here like that that I'm I still support Cisco's on e6 I love cisco they're still around I thought yeah didn't they have an ownership change or am I thinking of the other place that was right by there you might be thinking of the other place
okay like I'm still down I just it just one of the million never did it for me I don't know all right fair enough It was one of those, before Austin was a foodie town, it was where Guy Fieri would come or any of those TV shows.
So it would always get on the
TV travel channel shows about food.
And so it was always busy even before, like it was a thing even before Austin became a foodie town.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I said, that's what they were known for, is that one dish.
I don't know if I've ever ordered anything besides that there.
And also, I don't know if I've been there in the last 10 years.
Yeah, I haven't been there in probably longer.
Yeah, about that.
Maybe.
Maybe we should go.
It's right there.
Maybe it's the Taiwanese.
We should get one done, Juan, and all three of us can share it.
There you go.
Yeah, but
it's definitely
all of this has changed so radically.
Like, I rarely come down this far.
I guess I was here not that long ago on this part of Cesar Chavez, but I was just watching.
There was a restaurant I ate at like across the street down the way a little bit.
I don't remember what it was called.
It wasn't that great.
It's like I saw it on some list.
I was like, sure, fine.
I'll try it out.
And then I went and and I was like, it's not that good.
What kind of food was it?
It was Taiwanese food.
It was, it was like, it's one of those places where it was fine.
And it was.
So I like.
Hear me out.
It's going to take me a little while to get there, I think.
Sure.
I like the trend of...
places just having a QR code on the table so you can scan it look at the menu and order if you want yes and the food just comes out straight to you you don't have to worry like you don't have to wait for someone to come talk to you you don't have to make sure you're all you're ready to order at the time they come then they go away.
Like, that whole thing.
It's a hassle.
The thing is, when you put the QR code on there, you either have to make sure you have cell service in your restaurant so that it loads, or you have to have Wi-Fi so that people can load it.
Yeah.
You can't have that and then have it not work.
So my cell service was really weak.
It eventually, the page eventually loaded, and it was like an internal server error 500.
So I was like, so it took forever to load and then it didn't load.
I was like,
it just wasn't working.
And then so I think it set me off on a bad foot to begin with for that place.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Yeah, that's fine.
But it's weird because I feel like there's a lot of people, like I see.
Articles and I hear people talk about it all the time about how I guess it's all boomer shit, right?
It's like, oh, I miss menus.
I wish menus would come back.
Thank God they're getting rid of those QR codes.
I just want a menu I can hold and look through.
Like, who gives a fuck?
Look at it on your phone.
I guess it's people who can't look at their phone without glasses or it's the same people who need to turn the flashlight on on on their phone to look at the menu in a fucking restaurant at dinner.
Like, fuck.
I see the writing on the wall and I don't want to get there.
This street might be the street with the most buildings that have been the most things since I've lived in Austin, if that makes sense.
Okay.
Like, I feel like...
Like, much like this place, which has been at least three things since we've lived here, maybe four.
I feel like every bar or restaurant, with the exception of maybe one in a million and a few, maybe a place that
sells piñatas over there somewhere,
everything else is mostly, has flipped multiple times.
Well, that was the place you're talking about, like that was like a flashpoint for gentrification here on Caesar Travis, the Jumpoline place when that closed, God,
seven or eight years ago now?
Yeah, probably.
It became a cat cafe?
It became a cat cafe.
And then that was a real controversial thing.
And they were dealing with a lot of vandalism and stuff.
Same with that place, Luz Bodega, behind us that we turned into.
That we were wrong.
That was that Leal's tire shop, I believe.
And then
I think the family wanted to retire and they sold it.
And then they made that Luz Bodega place.
And then it became a huge, they were having lots of people throwing paint on it and protesting it and stuff because they were like gentrifying the area.
But I feel like every restaurant,
every building, every cool old Victorian-looking home that is a headquarters to a media company used to be a salon, used to be a vintage store, used to be a barbecue restaurant.
It just feels like you just go down the road and you're like, five years ago, this was this, seven years ago, this was this, two years ago, this was this.
It's a little bit frenetic and frantic to go down to Cesar Chavez and see the constant change.
And
it's funny because it's still
happening, right?
Like
we're in the part that's changed quite a bit, but if you keep going east, then you eventually get to a part where...
Well, I guess not even that's true anymore.
I was going to say you get to a part where that old stuff is is still there, and I guess it's like 50-50.
It's in the process of going to the streetworks is over there.
Yeah,
if you keep going by one in a million, they just opened a new bar almost across the street by La Barbecue called Love Birds, and it's brand new, and it's just like, oh, just like in this neighborhood, and it's on the drag on Cesar Chavez.
It just stuff keeps turning over and becoming new stuff.
I don't spend a lot of time in this area because of that.
There doesn't feel like there's any route.
I was going to say, this is the area, you know, back when I was drinking and going out a lot, I probably spent more time over here than most other places in Austin.
And even with that level of like daily time over here, there's no, like, it's all different.
You walk away for 18 months and come back and it's all different.
Even the good stuff, the stuff that was like highly touted and beloved.
We talk about the line to get into Want in a Million.
There was a place called Bufalina, which was a Neapolitan pizza place that opened up three blocks from here over on the other side of the street.
And same kind of place, like you would have to make reservations months in advance.
You would wait outside.
They would open at 5:30, and there would be a line at 4:45 of people.
And it's not a quick turn and burn pizza place.
It's a sit-down, drink a bottle of wine, have a very
overpriced pizza kind of place.
And it was hugely popular.
And they just bulldozed that building and put condos in not so long ago.
There's a Bufolina up north now.
There's one on Burnett.
Burn it, yeah.
It's overpriced.
It's good pizza, but yeah, it's definitely like, wow, I'm paying how much for this pizza.
They have a Diavolo pizza that's fucking, it's as good as any pizza I've had in Italy, and I've had a lot of pizza in Italy.
So
this area has always been interesting to me as long as I've lived in Austin.
You know, we're on Cesar Chavez, and Caesar Chavez and Holly are like on the north side of the river here.
And then just on the other side, you know, is obviously Riverside
and like all the streets that run up to the river.
And all of this area east of 35
was viewed so long as like an undesirable part of town.
It was like the,
I don't know, the air quotes, bad part of town, even though it was never bad.
It was never bad.
And it had beautiful lake or like
it was like
accessible.
It's right on the river.
Huge parks.
Why are people avoiding this place?
I used to live over there in those really shitty, damp apartments on the other side of the river here.
And there was that
power plant for a long time.
We used to call it the Cloud Factory.
Yeah, Cloud Factory.
Factory.
We're not too far from it.
It's just a little west of here.
Like, it was right on the river.
And it was just baffling to me for so long that it wasn't anything more.
And I guess now we're at the point where
it is.
Well, interesting, you talk about the Cloud Factory.
It's still there.
I think they're in the process of decommissioning it.
And I think that there's a lot of, and I could be...
making this up, but I'm pretty sure I read that there's a lot of chemicals and shit.
They got to treat the place and
depoison it.
But
they have, and you probably haven't seen this because you don't spend a lot of time, I don't think, walking around town lake.
No.
But they have completely redone the area, the bike trails around there and stuff, where it used to be you would hit the trail, you would like the hike and bike trail would run into the power plant, and then you'd have to go into the neighborhood three blocks and then awkwardly around it.
Now they've like they've hollowed out an area around the back of it and they made this beautiful bike path and you can walk around it.
So you can you can completely uh circumnavigate that power plant now and see it from all angles.
It's interesting.
Cool.
Yeah, so
they turned it off.
Like, it hasn't produced power in some years now.
It's just like, but you're right, it's still there and they need to.
Yeah, there's some toxic shit, I think, maybe.
Figure out how to get rid of it.
It's like when you play SimCity and you put the power plant in the middle of your town, and then like 100 years go by, and you're like, fuck, everything else has been built up like crazy.
Why did I put it here?
I'm such an idiot.
Yeah, it's exactly like that.
It's got river view access.
It's got its beachfront property.
Yeah, it never made sense to me that this, from like, I guess from 35 to
Pleasant Valley on Cesar Chavez and south to the river was considered bad.
Even though it's gorgeous and some of the nicest land in town.
Yeah.
Makes no sense.
Makes no sense.
Well, I think it's, again, something that we talked about a long time.
I think we talked about this in batch.
It's a holdover from 35 splitting the town
into, like,
literally segregating the town.
And I think this was the,
I mean, this, be frank, this was the non-white side.
So it was quote unquote bad for a long time.
And, you know, we're still dealing with that with 35 splitting the town.
And now you can't buy a house here for under 1.2 million.
Yeah.
I remember like visiting in the 80s and the 90s and like everyone would be like, oh yeah, don't go Easter 35.
It's so bad over there.
And then you would go Easter 35, like, it's not bad.
I don't know what these people are talking about.
It's
totally fine.
I heard that when I moved here.
I don't get it.
That's stupid.
Austin's bad versus every other city's bad that I've been to are incomparable.
Yeah.
Even with the fact that we're rapidly becoming a big city and fucking, I get my, you know, I subscribe to a bunch of police scanners and stuff.
And so I get like police scanner notifications constantly and citizen apps.
There's like murders and there's all kinds of shit going on.
And we're getting street takeovers.
And like, we're starting to get big city problems, but still nothing close to what's going on in any other real city.
I have all that shit turned on, so when I go spend a week in Gross Point in Detroit, I get to see what's going on over there.
Different world.
Different world in Detroit, let me tell you.
We're in an area that,
like,
you're very familiar with.
There's like a baseball field and like a little park or something that's like right over here.
Yeah, we did the supplemental.
It's at 3rd and Chicone.
It's where my ex-wife's studio used to be.
And so I spent years that's practically living there, home away from home.
And then Gus and I lived.
I mean, like he said, he lived right across the river, basically directly.
But also, Caddy Corner was the house he and I lived in together for three or four years.
Yeah, real close.
Oh, really?
And that's right by
Criegfield,
which is where we used to play softball at the
Extramural League at the call center.
Yeah.
Which was funny because they used to, we talked about it.
That's why they built, they named those apartments the ballpark, and they're tearing all that down now.
This is the part of town where if somebody comes up to me and just mentions Austin and I'm not thinking about Austin, this is the first thing that comes to mind.
Like, this is Austin to me.
Even though I don't live over here anymore and I probably never will.
I get it.
I think for me, that's downtown, just because
I spent a lot of time there when I was younger, and then I also worked there, not only with Rooster Teeth, but before Rooster Teeth in my previous job, like my office was downtown, so I just spent probably the better part of a decade down there.
Yeah, I just feel like this...
I get it.
Like, this is a cool place to take people who are in from out of town.
Like, you could take anyone up and down Cesar Chavez who's in from out of town because it is bars built or surrounded by trees and homes and you're close to the river and it has all like this stuff.
But as someone who like lives here, again, the only thing that I feel like when I drive up and down Cesar Chavez is like it feels like very like rootless.
Like there's just stuff that's just turning over.
Yeah.
Just stuff that's like, we built this here.
Oh, how long's it been here?
About six months.
And it's like, oh, okay, cool.
What was it before?
Eight other things?
Yeah.
It's just a lot of that.
Eight other very cool things that were cool for six months and now they're going gonna be, yeah, yeah.
I will say, in this area, if you get it, if you ever find yourself over here and you want a really nice meal, like two blocks over is a street called Holly Street,
on there is a restaurant called Londorette.
Oh, yeah, one of the best restaurants in town.
My wife loves going there for brunch, so good.
I've never, no, I ate there once, I took her one time, but she's gone probably about seven or eight times because it's always like girl brunch day.
Yeah, where it is, I'll drop her off and then
hours later come back to pick her up.
I mean, just hours and hours.
And she really likes it.
It's a very cool thing.
If I lived right there, I think I would love that.
Yeah.
But I don't.
So it's just another spot that I have, like everything else here, I have to drive to and fight for parking.
I will say, if you lived here, man, you'd be in heaven because you have 30 restaurants and bars to choose from every day within walking distance.
Every six months, they're all different.
Yeah.
And as soon as you get bored with it, they just become a new business.
Don't worry.
It's something else now.
Like Corral Snake.
I love it.
So it's funny, like this place, obviously, you know, is churning and like it had an identity.
And I feel like as it's doing this churn, it's trying to find a new identity, right?
And trying to settle on what it's going to be.
And it makes me think of another part of town that's nowhere near here
because it's a place that churned, tried to establish its identity, and in my opinion, just like kind of failed and did nothing, which is like the triangle.
Okay.
Which is like, yeah.
It's like a developer came in and was like, we're going to take all this land and we're going to build it up and we're going to make this.
And it's a very central, convenient location with nothing.
Like there's some apartments there, but it's like.
Where do you think?
Because
I will 100% agree with you.
Yeah, like no local identity to it at all.
Could be anywhere.
It's like copy and paste from any city.
Okay, so I was going to ask, where do you think they went wrong with the triangle?
Because it's had a Moddy's.
I know you're not a Moddy's fan, but it's a local place.
It currently has a Hop Dotty,
which is a local place.
It had a Flying Saucer, which wasn't.
Now it closed down.
It's got a Mama Foose, which I think is local.
Is it?
I don't know.
I thought it was.
I thought it started here.
I could be wrong.
It's got a grocery store that's not very good.
It's got a natural grocery store.
Yeah, natural grocery.
Not great.
It's got an orange store.
It was an office depot before.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's an electric bike store I went in once over there.
I don't know.
There's a lot of stuff over there, but nothing that I would go out of my way to go to.
I think that's the problem.
There's a Merit Coffee there.
We can maybe go.
I go to that Merit Coffee sometimes.
Merit Coffee's fine.
That might be like the best thing.
They're San Antonio chain, though.
Don't they have ice cream?
There's a Jenny's there.
Yeah, there's a Jenny's.
Which is really good.
It's really great ice cream, but again, it's like.
The way that you are talking about paying for Bufalina's pizzas, the way that I feel about paying for Jenny's ice cream.
Yeah, it's like, oh, you want an ice cream cone?
Yeah, $9, please.
Like, what?
I suppose this is cold.
Yeah.
And it is creamy.
I'm just.
I feel like where they went wrong, maybe it's not any fault of theirs,
of the developer or whoever's in charge.
It's just no
place with any local identity embraced it and went there.
It's just, maybe rent was too high.
I don't know.
But there's definitely a lot of apartments there and a lot of people who live there.
And there's businesses to support that.
It's just nothing outstanding, nothing with any local identity in there.
No, I agree with you.
And it's weird because I was excited when it was being developed.
I thought this is the kind of stuff we need in Austin to make us a big city.
And we're doing it, right?
We've got Mueller, obviously.
We've got the Domain, obviously.
We have the Triangle, which is a very small version of that.
We've got the Grove over there that's kind of somewhere in between the Triangle and I guess Mueller, closer to the Triangle in size, though.
But yeah, the Triangle, for whatever reason, is just not very interesting.
I go to that Merritt Coffee once a week, maybe.
I work from there sometimes when it's too hot to go to my other coffee shop.
But it's always crowded.
Yeah, I do notice that.
I wonder if once the like the mass transit stuff is built out, because that's supposed to be like in the plans, the triangle is kind of like a hub for a lot of interchanging between different lines.
I wonder how that's going to affect growth, assuming that the transit system gets deployed in any
fashion similar to what it was built as.
Are they fully fully developed out over there too, right?
There's no room.
Oh, yeah, there's no more room.
No.
Yeah,
there's some land for like runoff, and there's like easement land, but that's it.
Yeah, it's uh, yeah, there's no more space to build anything there.
Do you think the public transit stuff is going to happen?
Man, I don't know.
Uh,
like, like realistically, like, like, do you think, you think it will?
I think some will.
We'll see.
There might be a revote.
The state of Texas is really trying to stop Austin with this.
It won't.
It'll happen, but it won't happen in the way you want it to, and it won't be as effective as we want it to be.
And it'll be a neutered version because that's what always happens in Austin.
It's the same thing when we got light rail.
we got a neutered version of what we wanted.
As long as we get something,
anything is better than nothing.
Right.
I hate to sound defeatist, but I'll take what we'll take what we can get.
Well, I feel like there's a prevailing attitude with a lot of people where it's like, if it's not going to be perfect, then what's the point?
Right.
It's like, well, nothing's going to be perfect, right?
At least deploy something.
Yeah, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Yes, exactly.
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I just can't believe there's not a way to get from the airport to downtown that isn't a car.
There's a bike path.
So I can't believe that there's not a way.
Do you imagine getting off an airplane with your luggage and jumping on a bike to go right into downtown in July?
I would do it.
There's the airport flyer.
I mean, it's a bus if yeah but that's what I mean like that the only thing the only way to get downtown is vehicle yeah there's nothing
that's crazy it is crazy and I know he agrees because when we go to places like Seattle or San Francisco that have a tram that goes from the airport to where we're like he gets so excited Gus is like oh we can take this tram and then we hop on and then we're just fucking there and it's so convenient I'm going out of the country in a couple months.
Yeah.
And last night I was looking up the mass transit in each of the places I'm going to like, ooh, what train can I take from the the airport to get to where I'm going where my hotel is oh here it is I see ooh only one transfer great you know
man everybody but us has this figured out
oh yeah so yeah I'm definitely all about it like I whenever we travel like Jeff said whenever it's at like another city or out of the country or wherever it's like ooh is there a train we can take instead of getting in a car I fucking love that stuff
so yeah I'm excited for it getting deployed in any fashion I want to see something.
But it's going to be a long time.
Yeah.
I mean,
we'll see if any of us live here when it actually happens.
Yeah, no kidding, right?
We're all moving to Michigan.
Well, that's the thing.
I want to live long enough to see what happens to I-35.
That's my goal.
One more lane.
Just one more.
Just one more.
All you need, bury it.
Bury it.
Bury it.
Connect the city.
Bury it.
That's what I want.
Do a Boston.
Do a big dig.
But even the.
Sure, some pedestrians will die in the process when shit it falls on them but you gotta you know can't you gotta make an omelette even the burial process like some of the the ideas i've seen are so small in scope yes like bury it from 12th to the river it doesn't make any cool i mean
again i can't don't let perfect be the enemy of good but it's like
that's such a small stretch the whole issue with with 35 everyone's like well it's so busy around downtown well it's busy because it dog legs when you get down past the river it dog legs and nobody I don't know.
If you drive in Austin, if somebody hits the brakes and they're next to you, you also don't have to break.
You can just keep it going.
Adding one more lane is what's going to happen, and it is going to fix nothing.
And it's going to be phenomenal to see.
Have you ever driven?
I'm looking at Eric.
Eric, have you ever driven down I-10 between Katie and Houston?
Have you taken I-10 down there?
I don't think so.
I might be wrong on this.
I believe that is the widest freeway in the world.
No, you know what?
I have.
I have.
I was thinking, I went out to Houston a couple of times.
One time it was all like weird backroads and like stuff that wasn't like
290 out there.
Yeah, and it was just like this.
And like, this sucks.
And then the other time it was that,
and you just go, what the?
I mean, we're from California driving on this and going, what the fuck is this
freeway?
Wild.
Wild.
And it really is a testament to people saying just one more lane.
Yeah.
Whenever people say just one more lane, that's exactly what I think of.
Until you you get to any of the parts where those lanes stop being there and it all chokes.
Yep.
Which is the problem with adding one more lane anywhere.
Unless you do it the whole way, what are you doing?
Yeah.
You're creating choke points.
Yeah, you need to find a way to move the people more efficiently, like either more densely or through another route.
Right.
Like rail or something.
130 was supposed to be.
Yeah, it's funny.
130, you know, it's like the toll wave way out east of Austin.
Is that considered a failure?
No.
Well, so when it first got built,
I thought it was a, I thought like nobody's ever going to use it.
Every time I see an 18-wheeler on I-35, I consider it a failure.
Well, I think the initial thought was that they were going to reroute all 18-wheeler traffic out there, and then I think they found out legally they couldn't do that.
That's half of the problem.
That being said, I feel like at this point, 130 is finally starting to be used.
I see a lot more traffic on it, and I see a lot more use on it.
And I don't think it's diverting any, well, maybe it is diverting some strain from 35.
I think that's more a testament to how far east things have been built built out.
Yes, it's really, you know, all that traffic that we were getting up from Lockhart up to Phlugerville, you know, it's really taking care of the 13th minimum on that drive.
It's such a weird to build a toll road and then say, hey, take that.
And everyone went, this one's free.
And they went, right.
Oh, hang on.
And here we are.
I think you're seeing a lot of manufacturing getting built out there because of 130.
Like, that's out by the Tesla factory.
That's where Samsung is building their factory out in Taylor.
There's a lot more industrial growth out there that I think will be, you'll see a lot more
big truck traffic on 130 because of that.
And you already see a lot of vehicular traffic out there now.
I think for a long time I thought it was stupid, but now Austin's grown out to the point where it's starting to be used.
So it just wasn't used in the way I thought it was going to be used when they built it.
It's not alleviating any traffic from our central corridor, but it is allowing expansion.
And I guess it's keeping it from getting worse as it grows, right?
Yeah, also fuck toll roads.
Also, fuck tolls.
Why do we have them?
What's the point?
Why couldn't it have just been another highway?
I know.
I just got my NTTA tag.
Oh, yeah.
I'm excited for that.
Did you have a text tag before?
No, text tag sucks.
Text tags are fucking worse.
Text tags are fucking worse.
Damn, baby.
Yeah.
I had a text tag for like two years, and then I switched over to an NTTA.
And it was just all one fuck up after another.
It's local toll tag.
Emily did it all, and it was a nightmare.
Yeah, it was a fucking nightmare.
I switched to NTTA.
I have not had one problem in the many years I've had it.
And it works in a lot of other states, too.
Yeah.
It's great.
It's in Florida.
I think.
You guys were talking about a lot of the change that's happening here and a lot of the stuff that maybe you miss or whatever.
But we got off the freeway and
there's no more pawn shop, guys.
Used to be a big pawn shop over there at Cesar Chavez and I-35.
It had a huge sign you could see from the highway.
It said like
cash for gold.
And I think there was another sign that said guns in like big letters.
It's just like, it's been bulldozed.
It's just a foundation now.
That area area is weird.
There was like an after-hours club there for a long time.
And then there was that native place that was like an expensive, fancy hostel.
And now that's gone and it's something else.
And the whole area is fucking.
Talk about change.
Just
impossible to keep track of what's there.
Yeah, and it's right by downtown, right by the convention center.
So if you came here for RTX, I mean, you were right by there.
Yeah,
what a bizarre
area.
Gus and I have been in every single pawn shop in the city of Austin.
Well, we were at one point.
Unless they've built one in the last 10 years.
Any that have been built in the last 12 years, we haven't been in.
Probably at least four or five times.
Yeah, at least.
Maybe more.
We printed out a list of every pawn shop in Austin, and then we segmented it.
And then we all took our 40 or whatever.
You got to know everyone there.
Yeah.
Well, I did anyway.
I did too.
I did too.
Yeah.
It's funny because I used to,
when we were younger, you know, we would go to garage sales looking for video game stuff.
And sometimes we'd hit up pawn shops too.
We talked about going to the pawn shop down in San Antonio.
We got a couple episodes ago.
Yeah.
So I used to really enjoy going to pawn shops, and then, you know,
we had to go to all of them for a long time.
And I've not enjoyed pawn shops again since then.
No.
No, it's just, it just isn't the same for me.
I saw
a few weeks ago, I was driving on a street real close to my house, and there was just like a bike lying on the sidewalk.
Like not, you know, with the standard, like literally just lying on its side on the sidewalk.
One morning, I thought, oh, that's weird.
Then I drove by later
around noon-ish, and it was still there.
And then in the afternoon, I drove by again, and it was still there.
I was like, all right, I gotta check out this bike.
It's like...
Like I park and I go out there and I look at this bike.
The tires are inflated.
It's fine.
It's not like a fancy bike or anything.
It's a real cheap bike.
And it's got like a pawn shop sticker sticker on it uh and it looks like it's been reduced a few times like the price tag and uh i was like well i guess someone just stole this bike rode it until they didn't need it anymore and left it here just i was like all right i looked to see if it had like someone's name engraved on it or like any identification or like any way to return it there was nothing on it i was like all right you live here bike when i moved to austin it had this program that was the coolest thing in the world and i'm sure if you're listening to this and you're from another major metropolitan area your city probably has, it's not unique.
A lot of cities had these.
But Austin had this thing, and I don't know whatever happened to it, but I want to say it died in the early 2000s.
They had this thing called the Yellow Bike Program, and they would take, it was a nonprofit, and they would take, people would donate bikes, they would spray paint them yellow, and they would fix them up and they would leave them out, and there were just yellow bikes around town.
If you saw a yellow bike anywhere in town, you could pick it up and ride it wherever you needed to and just leave it and leave it in a good,
easily findable place for the next person.
And then Austin operated like that for a long time.
And I used them a few times.
They were great.
They were like junky bikes, but they were free.
You weren't stealing one.
And
they were just around.
It was neat.
I miss that program.
It was great.
I'm sure people started stealing the bikes.
Of course,
with the advent of smartphones, now it's all
scooters.
Now there's a way to monetize it.
Yeah, I would say, we've monetized a thing that was very easy before.
Right.
It was like free and easy.
And now it's like, oh, now
it costs money.
Yeah.
Something that we're like half an hour in.
I do want to talk about the coffee.
I want to talk about
kind of like the space and get to anarchy questions and everything.
But something we didn't talk about last episode that we said we were going to, because at the end of the previous episode before that, we said we were going to talk about flying with Gus.
Oh.
And we have not done that still.
Oh, my God.
Last time you were too fired up and we didn't get around to it.
I forgot about that.
I want to talk.
How was it?
Tell me everything.
What did you do?
What was the weather like?
Was it hot?
Is he a good pilot?
We flew out from Austin to Fredericksburg.
There's a diner at the airport there in Fredericksburg.
Yep.
Had some lunch and then flew back from Fredericksburg to Austin.
Okay, so here's what happened.
We went to myself, Jordan Sweers, and Gustavo Sorola.
From that other podcast you did.
We all met up at
a smaller airport.
I don't know what you would call that.
So it's the Austin airport, but it was like over on the south side.
They call it an FBO.
It's a fixed base operator.
It's where, where, if you are boarding a private jet, where you go, as opposed to like the main passenger car.
So the South Terminal.
Not the South Terminal.
Not the South Terminal.
It's all of the big hangars by the South Terminal that you fly by.
And when you're about, like when you're on the runway to take off, you look over and you go, oh, that's where they keep all the other little planes.
Right.
Did you guys all drive together?
Me and Jordan drove together.
So you guys, did you, like, were you confused?
Was it easy to navigate?
We have been, this is the third attempt at flying with Gus.
Okay, okay.
The first time we were rained out, the second time.
No, no, no.
Uh-huh.
They, they were like, oh, yeah, the plane's not available.
We're swapping out the engine.
That's what it was.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, that was crazy.
They're just like, yeah, there's no engine in the what?
What?
So the second time we make it to the tarmac and the plane, and we're getting ready.
The wind is blowing so fucking hard.
It was too strong.
We just went, well, I mean, we certainly can't fly in this.
And Gus went, we certainly can't fly in this.
And so we didn't.
So we finally got it scheduled and we went.
Me and Jordan met Gus there.
Gus walks right.
He's big man on campus.
They see him walk through.
Everyone's waving at Gus.
He's going into like the private school, like backroom thing.
And he's talking to like the other pilot.
He's just landed and he's bringing like the plane in.
It's probably about 10:30 by the time we're out there.
We're taking off.
It's like 11-ish.
I'm in the back seat.
Jordan's in the front with Gus.
And we take off and we go around.
Gus is talking to like the terminal in Austin.
And it's just like anytime Delta or United.
It's the same channels.
You hear all that chatter.
Oh, yeah.
And Gus is like doing the call signs, talking to the people.
They're like, oh, yeah, like they have like all these signals here.
Take off at this.
And here's what you do.
And then once you're in the sky, you're in the fucking sky and you just go and you go.
And we flew.
Near downtown and got like a really cool view.
And then we head out to Fredericksburg.
It's about 11 in the morning, so it's not hot, hot.
It's warm.
And so it's a little bumpy.
When we,
I want to sidebar real fast.
When we flew out over downtown, it's like we flew over Ladybird Lake.
Yes, pretty much.
So it's like right over downtown.
It wasn't like we were flying into downtown.
It was every scenic view you've seen from like a postcard of downtown was what we were looking at out the window.
Are you limited in how you can fly over downtown?
Like are there rules around that?
Legally, you have to be a thousand feet over the nearest obstacle.
So it's like the tallest building downtown is 1,300 feet above sea level.
So the lowest you can get is 2,300 feet above sea level.
We were at about 3,000 just to pad it.
So we got up to 3,3500 and it was a little bumpy.
And you kind of keep heading out west.
And it is so fast to get to Fredericksburg when you can go in a straight line.
Yeah.
When you don't have to wait for other cars and you're just, you can go just straight there.
You don't have to go through the wide
30 minutes?
35 minutes?
Yeah, it's like 35.
We got up to around, what, 6 000 7 000 feet yeah on the way out there and it was smooth sailing how fast are you going uh ground speeds probably close to 100 miles an hour okay uh so we're like we're cruising there we get there gus is
so technically when you leave like the austin airspace they hand you off to like yeah we were talking houston we were talking to houston and houston is telling us like go here go there but also you don't it we saw planes that like weren't doing that yeah
that were just like taking off or landing or whatever from like the fredericksburg airport uh very small little airport but it has like a hotel there and a little like diner so we thought it would be really cool let's go for lunch let's fly out let's get a burger and we'll fly back
the burger was fine it was like good it wasn't whatever i had a cheap fried steak how was it in comparison to the burger we had at highland lanes it's the most recent burger i've had it was I would say it's a little bit better than that.
Okay.
But it was pretty close.
The bun was very nice, but the shake was fucking phenomenal.
The milkshake was really good.
You had a vanilla one, right?
Yeah.
And then the seasonal one they had was peach.
Yeah.
So that's what Jordan got out of that.
That makes sense.
We got there and we had a seat, and it was like a little diner, like two ladies that worked there kind of like running around.
And this is on the airport.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like you get, you land the plane, you park the plane, you tie it down, and you walk into the diner.
So it's the diners for pilots.
Do like citizens, like Fredericksburg.
Do Fredericksburgians go there?
I kept joking about that.
I I was like, there's way more people in planes in here.
Yeah, a lot of civilians.
Non-pirates than.
But we got there and we ate, and it was a really good time.
And then on the way back, we switched where I sat in the front, Jordan sat in the back.
This is after lunch, so it's
early afternoon.
12.30?
So it's getting hot.
We took off.
It was like getting shot into the air.
The ground wanted us off it so fucking bad.
Really?
The heat coming off of the ground is shooting you into the air.
Then we're flying out of Fredericksburg.
Gus is doing all like the calls and everything.
Is he a confident pilot or is he?
Incredibly confident.
Okay.
Like at no point did we ever feel like, oh man, I don't know what we're getting into.
It was like, oh, this is very easy, whatever.
We get up to about 3,500 feet and we're flying back towards Austin.
And it is like getting...
Picked up by Armando Torres and shaken around.
It was fucking crazy.
We climbed to 7,500 feet and it is like being picked up by Andrew Rosas and being shaken around.
It is not as strong, but boy, you're getting shaken.
So normally it's really bad the first 3,500 feet because of the heat and the wind and it'll really bump you up.
Normally you get above 3,500 and it's smooth.
Like you talked about going out to Fredericksburg.
We got up to 70.
I kept climbing trying to get away from that turbulence and it was it was it was like being in a rock tumbler the the entire way.
The last probably 20 minutes.
I mean, it's like a 35, 40 minute flight.
The last 20, 15, 20 minutes of it, I I started getting so airsick.
I was just holding on, going like,
okay.
You're sweating.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, clammy and just looking out and trying to find the horizon and going, okay, put your hand on something flat, just find the horizon.
Just huh.
We land, and it's no problem.
As soon as we get on the ground, the airsickness goes away.
Like, it was totally fine.
Yeah.
But boy, that.
Jordan feel it too.
Uh, he said he was feeling a little bit towards the end.
I was like, really, it was hitting me hard.
I could kind of see it in Eric.
I kept trying to distract him.
I kept trying to like ask about something.
I was like, trying to get his mind off of it.
Because you were in the back on the way back.
No, I was in the front on the way back.
On the way back.
Is it better in the front or worse?
I've never sat in the back.
I don't know.
It is.
It has to be worse in the back.
It was on a bigger plane.
I don't know.
It was bumpy on the way out there until it wasn't.
It never stopped being bumpy on the way back.
Yeah.
But so if you were to fly with Gus, I would say wait till October.
Yeah, wait till it's not 105 degrees outside.
It really is the air coming off of the ground.
I didn't realize it makes such a fucking difference.
It's insane.
It's crazy.
I think I told you guys on that flight.
Like, sometimes when you're at a lower altitude, you can tell when you fly over like a Walmart or a parking lot.
Because, like, oh, there's like a ton of hot air coming out.
You are just, you're going, you're going, you're going.
And it was like, it's just straight up in the air.
Here's the problem I have with flying with Gus.
I actually, I do want to fly with Gus.
I think it'd be fun.
I want to see, more than anything, I mean, I've flown a million times in my life.
I'm not excited about the flight.
I'm just excited about seeing Gus in a new element.
Like, it's exciting to me to see Gus be good at this thing that he's really excited and passionate about and he's worked really hard at.
It is such an activity that is Gus-brained that it is like he's made for it.
Right.
He started explaining.
Okay, well, there's like a clock in here that's like the time, but also that's like a flight hour time, which takes into account the speed at which you're traveling.
So it clocks time differently for when the plane is going.
And you're like, what are you talking?
And it was just, it dawned on me.
I went, This is an activity made for and by engineers.
This is guys who like do math as a hobby, and now they have figured out how to like make it an activity.
Yeah, but he failed out of college this first time.
But man, I quit before, I quit before they kicked me out.
He puts on his gloves and he's checking the plane, he's checking, like, the gas and like the fuel and all this stuff.
Incredible, incredible.
I think also
if
There is some crossover.
Like, I know Jordan's really into F1.
So it's like, if you're into, like, if you know how engines work and you're into that kind of stuff and like fuel-air mixture ratios and all of that, it's like, oh, then you can kind of like dive into that a little bit more.
This is also stuff.
What he's describing is stuff that can be automatic.
And these engineers choose for it not to be because they are simply going, well, just pull the nozzle.
And you go, right, but you don't have to.
And they go, right, but just pull the nozzle.
Let's do it.
Here's why I don't think I will fly with Gus.
Oh, you should.
Well, first off, I don't know that that I've ever been officially invited.
You should, but I know.
Well, what's cool?
There you go.
Well, now I have been.
I feel like, and I feel like this is a Bernie thing, which I feel a little embarrassed about because he used to always say shit like this.
But it just seems like it's the universe has.
I don't want to make it too easy for the universe to take us both out of this.
I understand.
I can't get mad.
I will say I felt safer flying in this plane with Gus than I do for most big commercial airline flights.
That's good.
Even like when you can see how high up you are and it's, oh, we're 7,500 feet up and you look down and you just go, I mean, it's really not that high and this thing will glide forever.
Yeah.
And as we were going, I pointed out a thing like, oh, look, there's a, there's a runway there.
Oh, there.
There's a runway there.
There were, there were runways in fields everywhere.
It was so weird.
Yeah, it's like, oh, if the engine dies, like, we're just going to glide right over there.
That's where we're going to land.
It felt so safe the whole time.
You really should do it.
It's, it was very glad to see Gus in his element.
I would like to, just to see him do it.
I just, like I said, I just don't want the universe to take us both out.
Statistically, it's about as safe as riding a motorcycle.
I have crashed my motorcycle twice.
So you're set.
You got it out of the way.
I really, it was so much fun to go with Gus.
I want to do it again.
I want to go to another place to go eat lunch.
I want to do it in November when it's cold and you don't get shaking around like a tinkle.
Where else have you flown to like that?
Have you ever been to Waco?
Yeah, I've been to McGregor, which which is right outside of Waco.
It's like just to the southwest of it.
Waco.
So I've been close to Waco.
I can go to Waco.
I just haven't been back.
Is it weird?
Are you restricted in how close you can fly to Fort Hood?
Yes, there are some restricted airspaces out there, but I mean, if you're talking air traffic control, they'll clear you through it.
It's not like.
I bet it'd be the same way with San Antonio.
They have four military controls.
If anything, actually, out there by McGregor, there are, you have to be careful because there's a SpaceX testing facility, and that's also close to where George W.
Bush's ranch is.
And I believe you cannot fly over his ranch properly.
So it's like there are some places you got to be careful, but if you're talking air traffic control,
you can fly lots of places.
I think.
So the furthest I've been is down to like Port Aranzas.
Okay.
Just like one day I was like, I want to see the Gulf of Mexico.
How long did it take you to get down to Port Arranes?
Two hours.
That's not bad.
Just about two hours.
I think at one point this fall, once the weather cools down, I may fly down to Brownsville just to be like, oh, look, there's Mexico.
Yeah.
You know, and fly back.
But we'll see.
Do you ever fly it out to like College Station?
I've been to College Station a few times.
In fact, College Station Airport also has a restaurant on it.
That was the other place we might have gone.
We almost went to College Station and ended up in Fredericksburg.
Glad we went out there.
It was very cool.
Hadn't been out there since like an Oktoberfest, so it was neat.
The reason I wanted to go to Fredericksburg instead was, like Eric said,
the diner is right there.
You don't have to go anywhere.
It's like right by the runway.
In college station, you have to walk out and then walk through the parking lot.
Yeah, I don't want to do that.
I want to, like, we parked the plane and it was like parking to go to this coffee shop.
It's like in the parking lot.
Yeah, this is a lot of people.
It really was cool.
Oh, you know, it'd be cool.
I could get you to fly.
I could fly with you out to Fredericksburg in like October, November.
And then I could take an Uber to the Christmas store because they have a tiny town there.
It's the closest place I can get Tinytown in Texas.
I could do all my tiny town shopping and then Uber back to the airport and then go home.
You don't have to Uber.
So that's an interesting thing that I think a lot of people who don't go through this don't know.
It's like when you go to like an FBO, like let's say you park at Fredericksburg and you, you know, go to the park your plane there, you can walk into the office and be like, hey, can I borrow your car?
And they'll let you borrow their car.
You can drive into town.
Then you just put like a couple bucks of gas in it and just drop it off back.
You can make a day out of it.
You don't have to ditch Gus to go to Tiny Town.
Are you fucking serious?
We can all just go to Tiny Town.
The guy that works at Tiny Town's a Roostie fan, too.
Hey.
Usually it's not a nice car.
It's like some old clapped out vehicle.
should we make this an anima thing?
Is this a thing where we make a day?
We go out to Fredericksburg, I bring this little thing and we see what happens.
Yeah.
I mean, we have, we don't even have to hold mics.
I have like a mic that goes on the top of this where we can just like pass it around.
We don't have to, but let's hold them.
Push the nozzle, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is fun.
This is definitely interesting.
Let's switch till it's cooler.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
We have to wait till like October.
I won't fly with you until October or November.
I won't get back in that fucking plane.
The air sick, I have thought about once every day since we've done it.
Dude, it's brutal.
There are a lot of students who quit in the summer and they're like, there's no reason anyone should be doing this.
It's rough.
It's awful.
We should talk about the coffee.
Freewheeling coffee here in the parking lot of Corral Snake.
Listen, I'm in love with this cup of coffee.
Really?
This, yeah, this cup, this, this Americano, this iced Americano I got, it's like, when I want a cup of, when I want an iced Americano, this is what I'm picturing in my head.
Wow.
This is like,
this is like
one of the best cups of coffee I've had on on the show.
Gus, Jeff?
That's me.
I'm Jeff.
I'm going to go 9.7.
Wow.
This is fucking good.
The only reason I'm not going higher is because I don't want to rate it higher than all gimmicks.
I understand.
This is up there with the colours.
But it's up there.
It's like the difference between Franklin and La Barbecue.
Yeah, this is.
It's like Franklin's like a hair better than La Barbecue, but it's like you're splitting hairs.
This is a great.
So here's the thing.
It's a very good cup of coffee.
Fucking awesome.
It's a great cup of like iced coffee that tastes like it's cold brew.
I couldn't tell, but no bitterness, very easy.
Stays cold the whole time.
Plenty of ice.
Great spot to sit at Coral Snake here in the back.
I think this is a great area for
coming down to get a cup of coffee to chill out, bring your MacBook, get some stuff done, sit under a fan, and just hang out at Corral Snake.
This is
probably like a 9, 9, 2, 9, 3.
This is great.
Yeah, 9, 9.5.
Whatever I gave all gammicks, same score.
Yeah, this is really good.
I really like this coffee.
That's the dude was really nice.
It's super nice.
Yeah, awesome.
I mean, I could not say enough good things about this place.
If you're in town, get a cup of coffee here.
Get a cup of coffee here, get a cup of coffee at Algimex.
I mean, these are like the two best cups of coffee I've got on the show.
As of this moment and our knowledge base, the two best cups of coffee in Austin are these two locations.
Yeah.
All gimmicks.
And freewheeling.
And freewheeling coffee.
Yeah.
North and Central.
Yeah, yeah.
Very metered expectations coming here.
This is like a trailer.
It's in a parking lot.
Wow.
Totally blew me away.
It's also a thing where I think people are easy, like they're fast to dog on Starbucks and Pete's coffee and all this stuff
because it's a big chain coffee thing.
But you have to consider that like a lot of coffee places aren't great.
They're fine.
And if you're getting a cup of coffee, sometimes you just do that, whatever.
This is one I would go out of my way for.
Like I would come down here and like next time I get a haircut, I might, my haircut is on like seventh.
so I might just hop down here, get a cup of coffee, cruise up, go get a haircut, and then I might see a rock star bagel while you're over there.
Hey,
I might find excuses to come out here just to get this coffee.
Elliott, wow.
If you do, let me know because I'll definitely come to Corral Snake again.
We can fly here.
Yeah.
That was really good.
We are a little shy on time.
I do want to see if we can get to an anarchy question.
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Yes.
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This is from Grayton.
Grayton.
G-R-E-I-T-O-N.
Grayton.
Sounds great.
Grayton.
What is a place in Austin that you have good memories of, but the other person may not have heard of?
Oh, weird.
Right?
We might not have an answer for it, but I like that question.
Well, I think it can be a good one.
I might have one.
I've got a lot of time at the venereal disease clinic, and I've never
split.
Arcade UFO.
Never been there.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah.
Arcade UFO is a very cool place.
Really?
I've never been by it.
Never been there.
Yeah.
Super, super cool.
It's an arcade.
It's real close to campus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like real
dark inside.
It's like if you brought a
Japanese arcade to the it's like you picked it up and plopped it down where it is just like hey do you like street fighter 3?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, kinda.
All right, what about Street Fighter IV?
Kinda, how about Street Fighter II?
And you're like, all right, healthy blood.
What the fuck is going on?
Yeah.
Arcade UFO is a place I haven't been to in a long time, but I did spend quite some time there for a while and lots of fond memories there.
And I was pretty sure Jeff had never been there.
Oh, yeah.
No way.
So mine is a place that I'm pretty sure Gus has never been, and I go there once a week at a minimum every week of my life for the past three years.
Okay.
Card Traders of Austin is up north off 183.
I'm there constantly.
Really?
Like a home away from home, yeah.
Wow.
So I get all the stuff.
Where is that 183?
For the break show.
It's like if you go up 183
past like,
I don't know,
do you know where the academy is?
Yeah.
It's like the next.
It's like that by McNeil, kind of, then.
Yeah, by
McNeil, yeah.
It's like the next exit after the academy.
That's how I always know to turn.
Okay.
It's where the Big Lots is.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a Fat Dragon.
Yeah, I I was going to say back in there, there's like some
Asian restaurants.
It used to be that Chen's handmade noodles back there.
There's some Asian markets over there, too, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know that place.
Oh, it's good.
See, these are good.
These are good spots.
Very fun.
NFT.
See?
I think that'll do it for this episode.
This is a fun one.
This is...
Man, I want to.
Can we come back here next week?
Right, man.
This cup of coffee is pretty good.
I feel so
sitting back here in the shade, watching some grackles hang out next to Corral Snake.
Good time.
This is very cool.
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Also, if you're listening to this and you want more, you should go to the Face YouTube channel because Gus and Jeff, by the time you hear this, it would have already happened.
Gus and Jeff will have done a break show where they are opening a bunch of Gus's cards that he's had in storage for how many years?
30, a little over 30 years, 35 years?
Great.
35-year-old cards.
I cannot wait.
So they're going to to be opening those.
As soon as we're done recording this, I'm going to have you guys talk into the phone and so I can post something from the face account promoting it.
But, very excited.
Go to the Face YouTube channel for the break show to check that out.
Anything else you guys want to plug or any wise words for people at home?
Come to Freewill and Coffee.
I mean, I can't say that enough.
This place fucking rolled.
It was so good.
Cool.
Thank you.