Episode 275: Chevy Chase: Why You Need to Stop Giving A Sh*t to Succeed

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins.

You're listening to Habits and Hustle, Creshit.

I know I said that in my earlier before we even started to roll and when I met you last time, but this really is a huge treat for me for you to be on this podcast because you really have been like my favorite person since I've been like 10.

Thank you.

I want to know, number one, have you ever done a podcast before?

Done one.

I went with one.

What do you mean?

Have you done a lot of podcasts?

I don't know.

By the way, you know what?

Have I done a podcast?

David Spade and Dana Carvey, we did.

Yes.

But that was not on video.

Oh, okay.

So you've done David Spade.

Okay, that's a good one.

I did those guys.

All right.

Any other ones?

Or just is the second one for you today?

I'm going to do David alone.

No.

He didn't say a damn thing in the whole.

He was very nervous.

David Spade was?

I think so.

Dana and I were very funny together.

And David Spade just sat there?

He'd say something once in a while, but Dana is, you know, overwhelmingly funny to

David, I think.

He's very funny, actually.

And I'm sure he was obviously a huge fan of.

I'm sure Davis Bay was just starstruck by you because.

Well, do people stop you all the time?

Well, you're always very funny.

You were starstruck.

And you did Bill Maher the day before.

Oh, you did Bill Maher too?

Yeah, I did Bill Maher.

So I'm honored.

So this is technically the second podcast you've ever done.

Yeah.

I'm excited to hear this.

What are you saying, Patrick?

What do you mean, mean, no?

It's the third.

Okay.

Well, Bill Maher is actually.

Does he have a podcast, Bill Maher?

Oh, it's a Bill Maher podcast that you did.

Bill Maher passed away.

Okay.

Did you know that?

No.

Oh, yeah.

Bill Maher passed away?

Yeah.

When?

Last 10 minutes?

No,

it was last night.

He did?

Oh, no.

Okay.

I'm like, I don't even know if I should laugh or joke or haha.

Are you guys friends?

Are you?

No, I don't like him.

I don't like him.

Yes, we're friends.

He did not pass away.

I know.

I just want to see how you

are today.

Yeah, how I am today.

I'm excited to have you here.

Thank you.

Okay, so I don't even know where, I mean, I have a bunch of questions and I don't even know really if I should even like look at the questions because with someone like you, there's so many things I want to talk to you about or ask you about.

So I guess at the beginning of all of this, the origin of like, were you always funny?

Even as a kid, were you funny?

Yes.

Okay, that was a point.

I have no judgment on that.

I mean, as a kid, I just was, I liked to laugh.

My father was extremely funny, but also he was a highly respected editor and publisher.

But he was the funniest guy I ever knew.

And so I get it from him, I think.

Oh, so you were kind of always known to be someone that was funny.

Well, I don't know about that.

Certainly, but when I started becoming famous, I was known to be funny.

What was your first breath?

Brad and also very musical.

Really?

Yeah.

You can sing?

Can I sing?

Do you play piano?

Yes, I do.

I play jazz piano.

Oh, really?

Since when?

Like, since you were like a little...

Since I was in my 20s.

In your 20s?

Yes.

Oh, you learned piano when you were in your 20s?

I taught myself over many, many years, but I played a lot and I'm considered pretty good.

Wow.

What other instruments do you play?

I play the bad boy.

The bad boy?

Is that like a drum or is that a...

No, I don't want to discuss it.

I don't know.

I just made it up.

Oh, you made it up?

Okay.

I do play the guitar and

the piccolo.

And the piccolo?

No, I lied about the piccolo.

Okay, so mostly just

this is going to be a really difficult podcast.

I thought we started already.

Yeah, we did.

We did.

It is going to be a difficult.

You're going to really put me at, you're going to put me at task here.

It's going to be, I'm going to earn every dollar.

I'll be nicer.

No, no, no.

I want you to, no, I want you to be you.

I want you to be who you really are.

Like a not nice person.

I want you to be.

I want Chevy Chase to be Chevy Chase.

I want you to be authentically who you are.

All right, well, I am.

Good.

So then, because Patrick behind you is saying that you're also a really good drum player.

Is that true?

I was a drummer with Steely Dan when we started in college and came out of there.

And

that was rock drumming, but I'm a good jazz drummer.

So.

You're very talented.

Thank you.

No, you're very welcome.

What was your first big break or the first big gig that you got within comedy?

I started with Ken Shapiro in college.

We made, over a period of four or five years, we made television you couldn't see at home, basically.

You go into a theater on East 4th Street.

There were three monitors and we would give them an hour and a half show.

We changed it every year.

It was called the Groove Tube.

Ken had money and put that into the theater and the thing that.

And that became quite well known in New York City.

And

from there, there,

I was really a comedy writer, and that's what I wanted to be, as opposed to a drummer and a rock band.

Right.

And I wrote for

Saturday Night Live?

Well, that's true.

I was the head writer when we started that.

But before that, I'd been writing for the Smothers Brothers.

Do you remember?

Yeah, of course.

You wrote for them?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

So you write them all their jokes?

They actually put me in one of their shows.

Oh.

In the background.

What the hell, John?

Sorry.

oh my god come on you're okay okay i'm okay just a little snot here

that's not true but okay okay so you wrote for the smothers brothers what year are we talking are we talking oh christ 60s uh 60s

75 was

a senel so Before that, like 73 or 4, somewhere in there, I was with the Smothers Brothers.

How long were you with them for?

I don't remember, a couple of years.

Is that how you got seen for the Saturday Night Live gig?

Or how did the Saturday Night Live gig even become?

Lauren called and I was about to do another show on stage where I would actually perform and that was with a guy named Paul Lind, a very gay, not particularly funny person, but I wanted to see if I could act.

So I turned him down.

He said, you know, I'm putting this show together.

And I said, no, because he said, I want you to be the head writer, but no acting.

I don't want you to act.

And I was thinking, I'm good at that.

So after one day of rehearsal with Paul Lind,

I called Lauren back and said, is that offer still good?

And he said, absolutely.

And so I flew to New York.

Again,

we started in 1975, I believe, October 11th.

That was our first show.

So this was somewhere around 1974, somewhere in there.

So 1977.

Is that exciting?

It was, yeah, well, actually,

I actually am excited.

So you, so Lauren Michaels called you.

How did he know that you even existed?

Did he see you on the GrooveTube?

Did he see you with Smothers Butter?

That's funny you bring that up.

Don't you like when people say it's funny you should ask.

Yeah.

We met in line at a midnight showing in LA here.

of the Holy Grail.

Oh, okay.

Mighty Python.

Oh, okay.

Mighty Python's Holy Grail.

Yeah.

And I was sort of cutting up with,

oh, what was his name?

Oh, anyway.

And just in front of Lauren, he saw me and started to laugh and stuff.

And I don't know that we talked to them, but he knew who I was.

And, you know, it's one of the reasons he called.

So he saw some of your stuff before, like he was...

Yeah.

Were you kind of like the...

I've heard about it and

were you kind of like already people were kind of getting to know your stuff like it was kind of in the ether already?

I don't think because back then it's different.

They don't have social media back then.

They don't have all these things.

Right.

And for the most part, I was a writer on things.

I didn't

in group two, I was on film or on video.

On video.

So I could be seen, but I don't know, it just sort of evolved.

So from Saturday Night Live, though, that was like your breakout moment where people really got to see you in a big way, right?

I can't discuss that.

I'm sorry.

Can you try to discuss it for a few minutes?

All right.

Okay, thank you.

How was it working with, was it like Gilda Radner at the time?

Like, who else was on the cast at that time?

Was Jim Belushi?

No, Jimmy.

Not Jim Belushi, sorry.

John Belushi.

John Belushi.

John, Danny Aykroyd.

Dan Aykroyd.

Garrett Morris, Lorraine Newman, Gilda Radner, and Jane Curtin.

That's like a, that's a, Jane Curtin, that was the one I was forgetting.

Yeah, what a

great cast that was.

I mean, we all thought

each of us were very funny.

Really, really funny.

Still funny.

Somehow

the

press and whatnot concentrated on me.

Partly because I opened the show with live from New York to South.

Yeah.

And because I had come up with weekend update and did that.

Which is, by the way, still there.

It's still like a huge part of the show.

I know.

And you actually came up with that?

Like, that was your original, that was you who originally came up with that.

So how did that come to be?

Like, how did you even think of that?

Lauren got us all together in a room around a table, basically this cast and some others who wanted to be in it, and had us do something or talk or do something funny.

And they got to me, and I made up a news story on the spot that...

Did you write all your own material?

No, sometimes

that we had, like Al Franken.

Yeah.

Tom Davis were writers on the show at that time.

They wrote stuff for me, Alan Dwybell.

There were various writers who contributed.

Michael O'Donaghy was huge, very funny.

And

me.

And so

it started off with just me writing, and then others chipped in because it was becoming

a big, popular part of the show.

So were you writing for Gilda Radner then at the time and everybody, Dad Apple?

I wrote for everybody.

I wrote the B's, The Killer Bees.

all the bees stuff because we had bee costumes.

Yeah.

You might as well write for it.

And

God knows where we got the B costumes.

I don't even remember, but there was a big thing at that time about the killer bees.

I can't remember what country or where it was or if it was in America, but it was a real thing.

So I would write these sketches of the killer bees knocking on my door, John, that killer bee costume, a few of the others.

Yeah.

We got your pollen.

What?

We want your pollen.

I'm sorry, but we see, I have no use for pollen.

There would be no pollen in my house.

We want it.

You know, this kind of

just idiotic stuff like that.

I also wrote,

it's right on my tip of my tongue.

Interior demolitionists.

So it was like, who is it?

Interior demolitionists?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me in.

We still know what he is what that is.

Jane Curtin, whose apartment is, she goes upstairs.

Danny and I, excuse me, just start breaking furniture, jumping through a glass table, taking paintings, just

demolishing it.

Yeah, demolishing it, yeah.

And then once we've done all that, she comes down the stairs and she says, oh my God,

what is it, ma'am?

You forgot that picture.

So we break that picture and it's the end of the

sketch.

At the time, I know you probably didn't realize the kind of impact it would have, right?

Did you like...

I knew it was good.

I knew that nobody else would come up with something like that.

Right, right.

It's idiotic, but it had a lot of action.

You know, the stuff that I wrote was pretty much physical comedy.

Yeah, it was physical comedy.

But I feel like to this day, though, like it has like, it's an iconic, it's so iconic.

And your style is so unique compared to, I've never, like, you still have a very unique style that no one's ever kind of even come close to even emulating well.

Oh, that's so nice of you to say.

No, but it's, it's the truth.

Like everything from like, you know, Darren and I always do like these little things from

Darren, you know, the guy sitting behind you.

Oh,

Darren, your agent.

We always do like the rusty, you know, the Grand Canyon, you know, from vacation.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, like,

you know, all, I can, like, I can say,

because it was so, we were there.

I mean, we had moved the whole crew and everything there.

And with a shot of Grand Canyon, I'm doing something in the hotel with some guy, which I wrote about, you know, not paying enough or whatever right right and then I run out and they're looking at the Grand Canyon yeah yeah no I go like this

okay let's go

that says it's great I love it I've seen I don't I don't always think of it bye let's go you know just that kind of

all of it like physical stuff the physical like you know even when you get to Wally World you know you're like you know like there's no cars there just the way everything that's even even like, we're the first ones here.

We'll be the last, you know, what was the line?

Like, first one's here.

Dad, why are you, why are you parking so far away?

First one's here.

First one's out or something like that.

It was a line.

We had to run.

You write with the chariots of fire.

That's what you write to the song Chariots of Fire.

Me and my son.

Yeah.

Rusty.

Oh my gosh.

Can I tell you, that was like my, that movie to me, all I do when I look at you, I can, I just think of the movie, that whole thing, like Christy Brinkley, eating the sandwich, all of it.

Do you still talk to all those people?

Sure.

Really?

Are you friends with them all still?

Yeah.

And then how about the people from like Dan Acker?

Beverly, don't speak to her?

Not much, no.

Oh, really?

Because you guys had.

Oh, she passed away.

Look at her face.

I don't know.

Okay.

That's two, Bill Lauren and Beverly.

Who else?

Has anyone else passed away that I should know about?

That I'm not going to be.

Dr.

Schavanco.

I don't know.

Anyway, no, no.

I talked to them.

You talked to how about Dan Ackworth?

Do you talk to him stuff?

Yes, Danny and I just did a picture up in Canada.

Oh, you did?

I'm Canadian.

When is it coming out?

I can't tell you that.

Oh, Canadian.

I am Canadian.

Yes.

I don't know.

It's called Zombie Town.

Only Danny would come up with a title like that.

Zombie Town?

Zombie Town.

God, I can't even believe you're still, like, you're like working, like, you're still working and doing.

Like, it's been, how many years have you been doing this for?

Oh, Christ, eight?

Eight?

Only eight.

I feel like it's been like 60 years you've been like.

It's probably, yeah, 50 years.

65 years, 65 years?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's an

actively doing movies.

I know you do a lot of speaking.

You do a lot of like, you know, touring and all this stuff, but you're still doing all these other things.

Wow, don't you get tired?

No.

No, are you able to, can you still write comedy?

Are you still even like dabbling in that?

Of course.

Are you?

Sure.

It's easy.

That's what I do.

I know, and for a very long time.

I'm curious, because I read something that.

But I have to say,

I haven't watched a lot of SNL.

You haven't?

No.

You mean since when?

Since when?

Since I left.

I mean, here and there, but not a lot.

Okay.

And so more recently, the two guys who do the weekend update.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't watch it regularly anymore.

Who are the two guys?

The thing is,

Colin.

Colin, yeah.

Colin Jost

and Michael.

Shea.

Yeah, Michael.

Yeah.

Michael Shea.

Michael Shea.

Anyway,

I see them.

See, look, they're great.

I love it.

That's sort of what it should be.

But really, in my own mind, and this is so self-serving, but I always felt I did it better.

So I watch it and hope for something better to come of it.

A little more dirty, you know, a little more

raw and

maybe even physical, something.

And they do what they do.

It's fine.

It's just that

I want more.

I don't mean to be in any way critical of these two or the writers.

It's a different time.

Different time for sure.

But they do say, though, it's funny that, well, you're not the only one who thinks this way, right?

Because Saturday and Life has been known that it's like, it's kind of lost a lot of its mojo, so to speak.

And it wasn't how it was when it first came out, right?

Like it's not the same.

Yeah, but you know what?

You can say that about anything.

You can say that about anything.

But you weren't even on Saturday Night Live for very long, right?

You were

for one year.

So, what, like, where did you go right after?

What was the.

I went back to the Smothers.

No, I didn't.

No, you did not.

Did you leave because by then they were really old?

Yeah, aren't they?

Yeah, exactly.

But you were like such a breakout star.

Did you leave because you had such attention on you?

I left, quite frankly, because of a girl that lived in LA and wouldn't move to New York, who I was infatuated with.

Would we know who she is or no?

Her name is Jacqueline Carlin.

Oh, okay.

But I was infatuated with her and lived with her for about a year.

She didn't want to move.

Pictures of her, there was, look how beautiful she is.

And, you know, people like Lauren and

Doug Kenney, who became my best friend.

He was great.

He founded the Lampoon with Henry Bear, National Lampoon.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they would say, you don't love her.

What do you mean, look at her?

No,

you don't love her.

And still, we got married.

Oh, you ended up getting married to her.

Okay, okay.

She got married and it lasted about eight months, something like that.

Really?

She was violent.

I mean, I say it now, but at the time.

She was a slapper.

She slapped me in the face at the rehearsal dinner.

Of the wedding rehearsal?

My parents were there, my friends.

Yeah.

Get out of here.

So you moved, you quit Saturday Night Live to move to LA for a girl.

Yes.

And it was the wrong decision.

And I've always regretted it.

I would love to have gone back and been a part of it, but she wouldn't move.

And, you know, this and that.

Wow.

So

when you guys got a divorce, did you try to go back to Saturday Night Live or what happened?

Well, I've hosted.

Yeah.

Do you get stopped all the time by people saying taglines from your movies all the time?

No, only Patrick.

Only Patrick?

Is he the only one?

Not me or anybody else?

Because I think.

But what do you get recognized for the most of all the things that you've done?

Well, there are five movies.

I made about 50 or more than that.

But they're really five of the top ones.

They're

at least murderous.

I never consulted Colton.

Well, I was at-I can't hear you at all.

In the face.

So

I don't know.

Like, Vacation,

Christmas Vacation, Caddyshack, Seems Like Old Times,

Danny,

Spies Like Us, Fletch.

These are the top of my movies.

Yeah, and that's each, by the way, and I'll say this.

They were funny movies.

They're not funny.

It's like an under, they, by the way, they're classic and they're, they're they're evergreen, they never go old.

Like, there's nothing that they're funny today, just how they were like 25 years ago.

They don't get old.

I mean, even Funny Farm, totally underrated.

Yeah, funny farm.

Funny farm was great, but I mean, vacation, all of them, the European, when look, kids, the big band.

Do you know of like that line?

But I made that up at the time.

So much of what I did was improv.

That was when I wanted to talk about it.

I can't get left, basically.

We were in that car shooting, and there were so many other cars I really couldn't.

So I can't get left.

I can't get left.

Oh my God, that line.

Look, kids, Big Ben, Parliament.

By the time we had seen it four times or whatever, I'm going, Big Ben, Parliament.

That line.

So many of these things.

So you actually did improv a lot of the stuff that we see.

In all of them, or just vacation, or all the movies?

All my movies were a lot of improv.

Fletch was totally improv.

I know.

Can you talk about that?

How did you improv the whole movie?

Well, I mean, we knew that you've got to have the plot and premise.

But Michael Ritchie, who directed Fletch, I believe it was Michael, or maybe it wasn't.

I thought it was.

Anyway, he had directed me before, and he knew me.

Just, I'm trying to think of how it came about, but certainly, I think it was Universal.

Wanted a picture from me.

And, you know, it was hot at the time,

just like you were.

Oh, thank you.

No, you're well.

I'm so flattered.

You're not finished.

Oh, so go ahead, go ahead.

And you want to flatter me more?

I'm more than willing to listen, actually.

No, just go ahead.

No, no, please, go ahead.

You can teach me.

No, no.

No, no, no, no, you.

You were saying the

improvisation, you said that is a premise, there's a plot, then how much of it then is, how does it work?

Give me like a rundown of what would happen.

When?

When you, for to improv these movies, like what would you do?

What would be the like Larry David, they say on Curb Your Enthusiasm, most of it's improv as well.

And that they give him the plot and people who come on, they don't have a script.

Yeah, right.

So does everybody's lying?

He's lying?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

So in your, is that true?

I'm not lying.

He is.

Really?

So

they do have a script?

Absolutely.

I thought they all were given like an idea.

What do you mean?

For what?

For Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Oh, that.

Yeah.

Oh, I've never seen that.

Probably he's right.

Oh, he's probably right.

Okay.

I bet he is a liar, though.

Oh, you bet.

I want Larry to hear that.

He could be.

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Are you friends with Larry David also?

No,

I don't.

I mean, we just

know each other.

But I think he's great.

Yeah, he's good, but you're funnier.

So then, basically, then, how would it work?

Like, how would a movie like that be improv?

Like would what would be what would happen?

You would, they would give you, who would write them, who would give the plot, like what would be the, how would it work?

I can't remember who wrote it.

A couple of people.

But they'd only write the quote.

Here's what would happen when I'd get a script.

I'd rewrite the whole thing.

I mean, I'd read it and put in dialogue that I thought was better, et cetera, et cetera.

So that I felt a part of the production.

And

you know, that was perfectly acceptable to them, to people.

I was considered a good writer, and I write funniest for myself.

So, you know, because I know what I can do and what I can't do.

So there's an attitude with Fletch.

It's sort of like, I don't give a shit kind of attitude, you know, basically.

Otherwise, why am I up on the fire escape?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, with my lawyer.

And then why am I hitting him in the head?

Oh, he fouls him, you know.

All that stuff is just improvised at the time.

I just

put a basketball hoop in there and I'll use it somehow, even though it's only five feet away.

Right, right, right.

And anyway, so the idea of physicality and improv, and in my opinion, and I've said this before, but I'll say it again, all humor is physical, ultimately.

It's what you imagine it to be if somebody's telling you a story.

That's a physical, three-dimensional thing in your mind.

And all humor is

basically attitude and physicality.

So I'm good at it.

And I love it when my attitude is I don't give a shit.

That's funny.

Of course I do.

I have incredible family and my wife.

And really the best thing in my life is my home life.

And it's been that way for years, many years.

So it's not that hurtful to me that nobody's putting me on the air.

I'm happy.

But it's also probably just time and you're maybe older now.

I am older, yeah, of course.

Well thought of.

Yeah.

But I guess my thing I was going to say to you is that you picked roles very well.

I mean, Fletch was an amazing role, Caddyshat.

I mean, these are all every

characters in them.

Thank you.

Clark Griswold.

Was there like a method behind the madness, or was it luck?

Was it your agent?

Was it you?

Like, how did all those roles come to be?

Did you create?

Let's say a vacation was Harold Ramos.

Okay.

I think was the first director of that.

And he directed me a couple of times.

And Harold was very funny himself.

Harold sounded like this.

Action.

And cut.

He once did, he hadn't been, he wasn't out a director a long time.

He actually did this once.

And

cut.

I'm in action.

It's hilarious.

It is hilarious.

Anyway.

But Harold had a great eye for what's funny.

And you know, he was an actor.

He was in Ghostbusters and films of that.

Oh, right.

Okay.

Right.

That's Harold Ramis.

I'm sorry.

So so what was the question?

Well, my question was, your roles, like every, the the characters, like the Clark Griswold, the Fletch, the Caddysha, all those were perfect for you.

Did you pick them?

How did they come?

Like, did you pick very much?

I may have had 10 scripts and out of those, two I liked or something, you know.

Right.

That's the way it is.

And

I realize what I can do with it.

that kind of thing.

Like this Clark Griswold character, I could tell right away what he had to be like, You know, naive and optimistic, just a fool, basically.

Right, right, right, right.

Really, you know.

And so...

Did you change it at all?

That came to me easily.

So when they first presented Clark Griswold to you, did it look like how it looked there, or did you change the role to fit your personality to make it what it was?

I shot it once with a different ending.

What was the ending?

The ending was that, what was his name?

John Candy?

oh no not oh no oh the guy who owned the park

eddie bracket yeah the guy who played like walt disney guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we had the ending that you've seen is different because we all went around and got on the rides we didn't do that in the first one the first ending was just us on his porch trying to perform really yeah so It really wasn't the right ending.

And I realized

we've got to use those rides.

I mean, we paid for

what is that place?

A fortune for the amusement park for Disneyland or whatever it was.

Wally World or whatever.

Yeah, Wally World.

But yeah.

But it was here in LA.

Six Flags?

Was it at Six Flags?

It might have been, yeah.

Did you do that at Six Flags?

Wow.

So,

have there been any roles that you

by the way?

Yeah.

I have a great story.

Okay.

That Eddie Bracken was famous in the 30s and 40s.

He was a very funny, great actor, and perfect for that role.

And I said, you know, Eddie,

we've shot us on a roller coaster for the ending, or for part of the ending.

And really, we want to do it with you and me.

And I just don't want you to be.

nervous or frightened or anything.

It's perfectly nice and fun.

Oh, no, sure, I got it.

We get on the fucking,

form I expression, but we get on the roller coaster.

And in the shot, you can see it as we're coming down.

It's a wide shot of me and Eddie in the front seat.

And

if you could read his lips, it would work.

He says, this is what he says after we get to the top and then we start down.

And he goes, oh, f

⁇ .

And you can see, it's just, he's so frightened.

And I've got my arm.

Wonderful.

That's funny.

But we can't, yeah, we didn't see that.

Well, you couldn't see that anyway.

No, it was a wide shot.

Yeah, it's a wide shot.

Is there any other stories like that that you remember that you can share with us?

Like things that we would not, like behind the scenes stuff that we wouldn't know?

Not about Eddie, about anything like that funny, like...

The pool in the pond was obvious.

The pool in the pond.

Oh, me and the pond.

Oh, Chrissy Brinkley.

Oh.

Oh,

Caddyshack is talking about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was sort of an improv.

The first time we shot it, Billy had center folds of Hustler magazine all over the wall.

Of, you know, women, just the worst stuff.

It was great for the character, but nobody at home would see that in the movie.

I mean, it would be just hideous.

So Harold made him just one, please.

He just stacked them all up, Billy, and put it on the wall with nails through it.

And I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't particularly revealing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But so that was a great character choice.

So he said,

you have a pool, don't you?

You know,

yeah, I remember.

Yeah, we have a pool.

I have a pool and a pond.

Pond would be good for you.

And that's where he starts to, that's where he cracks.

And you can see him crack.

Yeah.

I love it.

You can see that.

Like, so we tried to make each other crack, but I never did.

You never cracked ever?

No.

I don't know why.

It's just that I was so used to really funny stuff.

for a long time.

Ken Shapiro and all, you know, and cracking was a no-no.

My God.

Well, who's your favorite character?

Of all the characters you played, what was your favorite?

That's tough.

I mean, I loved Clark Griswold character.

Fletch was easy for me.

I loved that because that was just sort of me,

really.

Yeah.

But, and in between those,

I think the Christmas Vacation film was very good.

It's the same character, though.

Yes, it is Clark.

It's a Clark.

It's Clark.

Yeah.

It's Clark Griswold.

That's my name.

Funny Farm.

What was my name in that?

Andy Farmer.

Andy Farmer.

And Funny Farmer.

That was directed by George Roy Hill, who had directed The Sting.

He was a great director and a great man.

He's long since passed, but this time I mean it.

Yeah, I know.

This time I can tell you mean it.

But

less like Michael Ritchie,

he sort of said, Chubby, here's the script.

We can go by the script.

Do what you want to do, basically.

So that we'd have things like, I insisted that the phone in this new house that we bought was just on the floor.

Because I'd then have to get down to the floor and try to make calls.

You know, it's funny.

It was

all funny.

And the snake, we had a snake that

scared.

And we just shot the snake.

And then the next shot of him was he was going in the door, which was open because I was outside.

Did you improv that one too?

Oh,

improv?

Like all, did you improv in Funny Farm as well?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, really?

Wow.

Yeah, but the snake.

No, no, I know.

That was real.

I know.

But I'm saying, like, in general.

But the joke was, the greatness of George Roy Hill was you see the tail of the snake go in, count to three.

Ah!

You know, the screen.

I remember.

You never had to be inside seeing that.

All you knew was what was happening.

So it's in your head, this

physicality of it.

It's amazing.

So of all the characters, you would say Clark would be your, if you had to name one, though, you would say Clark Riswald.

I would.

Well, you said that if all the characters that...

Oh, I said Fletch and Clark Riswald.

But Fletch was very much, you said like your personality, all right?

Yeah, Caddyshack was too.

The whole thing in Caddyshack of being visited by, what's her name, Cindy Morgan.

And I have

in my room, in my apartment, what do you call it?

Surfboard.

And then killer, you you know, the spear.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember it.

What do you call it?

You know, to kill fish.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What?

Spear gun.

A spear gun, yeah.

Spear gun.

Yeah.

What's that for?

Well, oh, I doing a little spearfishing.

Oh, really?

Fish?

I say something like,

and then I just came up with, what do you call it?

Not sharks, but instead of sharks.

A whale?

No, no, no.

Things you want in the ocean.

The big

heavy.

In the ocean, not a shark?

Not in the ocean.

in the what does he say do you know begins with a porpoise

porpoise yes so she says uh oh

sharks i said no porpoise it's just the worst thing you could ever say in a movie and and he gets away with it somehow this character but also it's the wording like what is it about it though like is it like is it timing is it like the tonation of how you say something the diet like what is that quality that makes it just so funny Listen, I'm not the guy to ask.

I just know in my head that it's funny.

It's funny.

It's timing.

It's

attitude.

Delivery.

It's understanding the ridiculousness of

the line.

It's the quickness, it is what it is.

It's like

the quickness of it is what it is.

That's right.

So when we shot that scene, let's say it was like our second take or something, you know.

I did a lot of first take stuff.

That's amazing.

I mean, are there any roles or any movies that you regret that you didn't take?

That like characters that you think back to?

You're like, oh, I should have done this.

You know, I can't remember the first 50.

I don't.

Well, I mean, I just.

We got offered Forrest Gump.

I was going to ask you about Forrest Gump.

And you turned down Forrest Gump.

They wrote it for me.

Did you know that?

No, they wrote it for you.

And you turned it down?

Yeah.

Why?

I don't know.

I thought Tom Hanks would be perfect for that, by the way.

And he did it.

Before they even...

Yeah, I thought he'd be good so i'm trying to think for this character i'm a little too christian you know white uh anglo-saxon what is it uh wasp yeah waspy yeah i'm a little too waspy and too big too tall it should be somebody slight slighter that has to has to achieve all these things to make his life important.

Not somebody like me who actually was an athlete and

6'4 or whatever, how tall you are.

Yeah, yeah.

That's so, wait, I've got to sneeze again.

Sorry.

God help you.

You got some, just a booger.

Just one booger.

Just one booger.

Can I use your, no, no, no, it's okay.

Thank you, though.

I appreciate that.

So did you actually think, did you recommend Tom Hanks or did they just pick Tom Hanks even and even

didn't recommend Tom Hanks?

No, no, I thought he was right.

That he'd be right.

Yeah, yeah.

Because now you can't imagine anyone else doing that role, right?

Like, that's crazy just tom so this is great there's no other role that you're like oh damn i should have like

i should have done it in retrospect because huh animal house wasn't offered to you oh yeah animal house i was offered that yeah animal house yeah i instead what's his name took the part i had

oh right what

who was the actor it was Tim Matheson.

Oh, Tim Mathen.

Tim Matheson.

Oh, right, right, right.

It's in flesh.

So Tim played me in the part I was supposed to play in Animal House.

I would have played it differently, obviously.

Yeah.

I don't know why I didn't do it.

Maybe I wasn't asked.

You didn't do that role.

You had a different role.

Is there another, is there any role that you would have liked to do that you didn't?

Lawrence of Arabia, I think, really.

But I was too young.

A little.

How about John Candy?

Do you remember John Candy?

It's funny if I didn't.

Yeah, no, no.

No, who's that?

You know, of course.

Were you guys really close friends?

Yeah, we were very good friends, yes.

Close?

Well, if it's John, you're close.

So there you are.

He was a big fat guy.

Loved him.

He was so funny.

I remember arriving at John's house up off Sunset Boulevard in Brentwood area.

Going there,

we were going to write something.

I don't know what, but he had a little place like this up above his house.

You had to walk up to it, but I had to go through his house.

And as I'm going through, it's like one in the afternoon, I can see the oven being opened by a cook, and there's two huge turkeys there.

It was just a testament to how well this guy could eat.

Wow.

Two turkeys for him?

Well, I don't, I didn't see anybody else around, but

no, I'm sure his wife and kids or whatever.

But they made two, yeah.

Yeah, not one.

To me, the first thing that comes to my mind is, oh,

you know, some idiotic thing like that.

So, John, here's how funny John was.

Hey, he had a migraine, really bad headache once, and one day, and

everybody was saying, John, we said,

try to have cold clothes, you know, all that stuff.

After about three of those,

somebody said,

maybe if you'd eat, John, it's gone.

He was lying.

It wasn't good.

He just didn't want to hear any more suggestions.

That's funny.

It is funny.

Who else were you close friends with back then?

Well, Belouche, who was just a thief and

ne'er do well.

But John and Belushi and I became friends.

And who else?

Danny.

Yeah.

I still love Danny.

He's still the same, but he's up in Canada.

Yeah.

Where is he?

In Toronto or Vancouver?

It was over, yeah, in that area, Vancouver.

Oh, Vancouver.

Yeah.

Do you have any other stories that you can remember that you could talk about, like with John Belushi or Dan Aykroyd that are...

Well, Jo Belushi was a drug addict, as you know.

As I know, yeah.

But at that time, in the

what year was it?

70s.

Coke was a huge drug.

Everybody took cocaine.

It was expensive.

But we were actors who were making good money and we all took it.

I had a little vial, which was very typical at the time.

Literally that big.

little tiny spoon connected to it, you know, and inside was Coke.

And I was playing the piano alone on the stage of Lemmings where we were doing a live show,

which was my first live show, by the way.

Oh.

So Chris Guest, John Bellucci, me, Alice Playton, Gary Goodrow, Goodcast.

Christopher Guest is amazing, too.

Chris, yeah.

Oh, yeah, well, Chris and I, we're very close friends.

Yeah, really?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

We first came out here in 72, the two of us, and got a house together.

Really?

Yeah.

Lived up on, I can't remember the name of the road, but...

Moholland?

Molland?

Moholland?

Moholland, and up high in the mountain.

Did you ever do a movie with him, though?

You ever did like, I remember waiting for Guffman and all those movies, like Yes, and Show.

No, he's not going to ask me to do that because, first of all, he's competitive, you know, just like all of us.

But I'd love to do a movie with Chris.

But if he's not asking, I'm not answering, I'm not going to ask.

I've had enough trouble asking Lauren if I can.

Yeah, beyond the host of the show, exactly.

Yeah, I mean, you know, before I die, could I please host?

Yeah.

It's going to end up like that.

Well, I'm maybe, maybe I'm headed for the hospital.

Can I coast?

Really?

But Christopher Guess, though, maybe, is he still making movies?

He is, isn't he?

I think so.

But if you're, maybe you guys can collaborate and do one together.

That would be nice.

I'd love that.

That would be great.

Yeah.

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Okay, I want to hear the John Belushi story.

Oh, yeah, so there I am alone on the piano, and the little

Coke vial is on the piano, just sitting there

above the keyboard.

Okay, I don't know why, but it was there.

And I'm playing.

I remember John coming in and then leaving.

When I'm finished, I look up, it's gone.

The little vial of Coke.

Yeah.

I say, John,

John, come come here.

What?

Did you take my Coke?

No.

What?

No.

You sure?

It was right here on the piano.

Didn't see it.

About a week later, I'm at John's house with his wife, Judy, for dinner or something.

And I'm sort of checking out the apartment.

And there's a bookcase of books.

And right in front of the books is my vial, empty.

just sitting there.

No way.

Almost as if it had been washed and the little spoon.

And I'm thinking,

I can't remember if I pointed it out to you.

I did.

I did.

You know, you'd still say, I have no idea.

Something like that.

That's crazy.

Well,

we were pretty funny guys, and regardless of there being Coke or not.

Yeah, of course.

It was also part of the culture.

It was at that time, yeah, yeah.

It was part of the culture.

So you guys were actually like friend friends, like hang out all the time friends.

No, not hang out all the time.

I mean, I have a couple of great pictures of me and John where

somebody's taking a picture of me just sort of leaning back against the eighth floor elevator and John behind me like this.

And I have another one of another picture.

It's me and President Ford and my wife at the time and John in the background.

He was just so pissed that he wasn't the star.

He had been the star in Lemmings with Chris Guess and Nina.

Right.

He was really the star.

We brought him in from Chicago.

He was very funny.

We did the

Woodchuck Festival of Peace, Love, and Death.

Oh, yeah.

And, you know, so we were doing, Chris did two great impressions of Bob Dylan and James Taylor.

Perfect impressions of them.

I did basically a song about what

that guy.

He would start, would sing about Colorado, that guy.

About who?

Who was it?

About Colorado and how beautiful it was there.

Oh, Colorado's calling me.

Willie Nelson?

No, no.

No, before that.

Oh, I don't remember that.

At the time.

What?

Who was I thinking of?

God, you can't.

Yeah, John Denver.

John Denver.

Thank God for you here.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

So who, by the way, like with your life.

Goodbye.

Thank you.

Your life has been so expansive in terms of like i'm sure you've had like crazy experiences just being who you are being like a comedy legend yeah do you what are some of the stuff like can you talk about a come some of the i don't know things that happened to you because of who you are that are just so elaborate and cool like what's some of the coolest things that you kind of got yourself like got involved with because i don't know I don't know.

Well, Bill Clinton and I became friends when he was running for president.

Oh, okay.

In fact, Janie and I went to the inauguration.

Okay.

And I performed, I can't remember what, but I had left the auditorium.

The place had cleared out.

Everybody's gone.

The show had been over.

And I come back in and there's Janie at the same table and Bill with his arm around her talking to her.

So I come out.

Take your filthy hands off my wife.

And my, you know, his reaction to that is, hi, Tebby, how you bid.

He doesn't been faze up.

Not at all.

You've probably heard that a hundred times.

That day.

That day.

Exactly.

Anyway, yeah, but I didn't really know him.

That was my introduction to Bill.

Oh, that was?

Yeah.

Oh, that was your first time.

Oh, really?

Hi, Chevy.

It's nice to see you.

Are you guys still friends now?

Yeah.

Oh, that's funny.

I don't see him a lot, but because of Shillery, you know, I'll have to do that.

Yeah.

So, Ben, who do you think is really funny today?

Like in today's time, like, who do you think is, who has the chops?

Nobody.

Not one person.

I do.

Besides you.

I can't think of anybody.

Like, how about

who?

Well, Ryan Reynolds, they say,

what?

Ryan Reynolds is funny.

Oh, I love Ryan Reynolds.

He's not funny.

He based his comedy routine on you.

Like his.

Oh, that's true.

His delivery.

Nice character.

Yeah.

And he's...

hilarious.

His timing is hilarious.

His timing is amazing too.

Absolutely.

He said he based it 100% on Chevy Shakespeare.

Really?

Yeah.

And I love him he's i have no idea really he's amazing i don't know if i've even seen him ryan reynolds he plays deadpool i didn't see that okay he plays a lot he played like a bunch of he's he's great i've heard yeah he's very good and so who else patrick janie and i were eating once and that he was over a few tables away with his wife or whatever whoever his wife yeah probably eating this was a long time ago oh maybe not his wife i don't know i was with my wife but um she got up and went over to him uh tell him something nice like, you know, you remind me of Chevy or something like that.

And she came back and said, he totally counts you

as the thing that made him him or something, something like that.

Wow, yeah.

And he copies me and that he had said that, which is really nice.

That's a really nice.

I just met Jerry Seinfeld of, what, a year ago, was it?

And he even said,

We just met at a place where I was doing something anyway, but he said that, you know, when I was younger, you were the man,

that stuff, and I tried to copy you.

So there are people who I consider funny.

I think Jerry's funny.

Yeah.

His deliveries are great.

His face is great.

Who claimed that I was a progenitor of some kind of humor.

Oh, for sure.

I'm sure there's more than just them two.

I'm sure there's lots of people.

But you never did stand up, though, right?

No.

Yeah, that was never your thing.

Did you try it and just don't like it?

No, I can do it.

In fact, my daughter works at the comedy store here in LA as the pianist for the comics.

And I went up there once or twice.

Just briefly,

of course, they have a different reaction to me because I'm famous and they've seen my movies or whatever.

So it's a big deal for them.

And for me, it's like, what do I say?

Exactly.

You don't know what it's like.

You don't have an act.

Yeah.

But still, I've seen a lot of these stand-ups.

And I've always felt in seeing stand-ups, not that it's right, but it always seemed a little desperate to me.

A little,

I need to be seen, I need to go further.

I need to be a big start kind of feeling.

Mentality.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

I think I have the same thing, but in my mind's eye,

there's a desperation.

Right.

In stand-up in general, like people who are stand-up comics in general.

Yeah.

I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily, but it's

not my style, right?

So, that's why you always chose to do more of the improv

and comic writing and stuff like that.

Yeah, would you ever, like, has anyone ever approached you to take do a remake of, let's say, Caddyshack or even vacation?

Like, vacation's been remade a million times.

Oh, not a million, like a few times for sure.

Well, yeah, you're painting a Christmas.

Yeah, it's been remade like Las Vegas vacation, Las Vegas vacation that was the end of it Vegas vacation that was the end exactly

but has anyone come to you and say like let's remake this again and see with you no no no they don't like me of course they like you no they don't why would you say that because they don't come to me well maybe they don't think you're interested maybe you can make them think I'm interested maybe I can I don't know I'm interested

I'm still to me I'm young and I can do all the physical stuff I ever did so you would still want to do those types of things Yeah.

I love it.

Oh, God, that's great.

Of course I would, yeah.

But I also, like I said, I love my life, my family, and where I live.

Patrick, you can account for that.

It's just...

Pat's the same way.

Patrick's this guy over here

pays me money.

No, I pay him.

That's what I forget.

You pay him.

But I mean, no, really.

He's the same way.

It's your family, your children.

What more do you really want in life?

Yeah.

I still want to perform.

And I feel as if the time has gone by at least two or three years

now

where I've done nothing really for the public and that I'm forgotten.

That's a terrible feeling inside that I've been sort of forgotten and it's like a one-time, what do you call it or whatever.

I hate it.

And I can't really understand

why

Princess Lauren wouldn't have me host again.

Or I don't know what's going on there.

Well, you haven't been forgotten, I'll tell you.

I mean, people love you.

I mean, when I told people you were coming on this podcast, they were so excited, number one.

And I think it's just getting the right gigs.

You know, like I know that Darren tells me you do all these great things.

You did a commercial for some, I don't remember what it's raising canes, that was amazing.

And you're doing all these like QAs.

I was like, aren't you doing all these QAs?

And people are like just ecstatic.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Those aren't filmed.

No, no, no, those aren't filmed.

But I think they should be, Pat.

I think

somehow I see you sitting there with a camera, but it's okay.

You don't have to.

I can imagine, though, it must be difficult when you've had such a star, right?

Like such a light being shined on you and all these opportunities.

And then things start to change.

How do you deal with that type of thing?

You know, I've sort of dealt with it just talking to you.

In other words, I could tell you this is how I feel, but in fact, it doesn't, it's not the purveyor of everything.

I don't really think about it much.

When I do,

I'm pissed.

Sometimes I go to bed at night, and before I go to sleep, I'm angry about Saturday Night Live or something.

So, you know, you do have those feelings at the end of the day, how to let day go and the.

So I feel it, but...

Buddy, you got the big documentary coming out on you.

You see?

See, I forget.

I tend to forget things.

They have a documentary coming out on you?

I do have a massive documentary.

Remember the documentary on the biker.

Oh, yeah.

So Lance Armstrong.

Lance Armstrong?

Same people did one on me.

Oh, so 30 for 30?

Is it going to be on Netflix or where would it be?

Well, where is it going to be?

It hasn't been sold yet.

Oh, it's been signed.

Oh.

I don't know where he's going to share yet.

Thank you.

Give me a day in the life of Chevy Chase today.

Give me the day.

This is called Habits and Hustle.

I want to know what your habits are, like what you do every day.

Sleep?

You sleep all day?

Any mail for me?

Yeah.

Nope.

My favorite thing.

Any mail for me.

Well, okay.

Typically, I sleep late.

What time?

Today it was noon.

You slept till noon.

I know, but that's really an aberration.

I don't know why I did, but you know, you get into a dream thing, and Janie just closes the door for me so that I don't hear this or that or the other.

That's loud.

Because where we are, these little dogs come out around seven.

From some house right next to us.

And it's a small, we don't have much of an area.

It's a house we got a long time ago.

But anyway,

so I get up, I have cereal.

What kind of cereal do you like?

I like jet picks.

What do you mean?

Yeah, what kind of cereals?

That was a good one.

Jet picks?

I never heard of it.

I know.

I just made it up.

Oh, okay.

I like...

Corn flakes, fruit.

Yeah, basically.

Corn flakes?

Yeah, but a lot of fruit.

Oh.

Yeah, so I cut up the strawberries and put a lot of fruit in there.

In the corn flakes?

Well, not in the corn flakes.

Oh, beside the cornflakes.

In the bowl.

Oh, in the bowl, okay.

But I put the corn flakes on it.

Oh, so the corn flakes go on top of the fruit?

In your opinion, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

I like it.

So the cornflakes.

Anyway, and then milk.

Okay, then milk.

And then stevia.

Oh,

on the cornflakes, okay.

Yeah, well.

The fruit doesn't.

No, just on the table next to the corn flakes.

Yeah.

so the Steve, yeah, because it's not sweet enough, just with the

sweet.

You need sweet, okay.

And then, do you drink coffee?

Are you a coffee drinker?

Aren't we all?

I am, but some are not.

So, you have your breakfast, and then what do you do next?

Then, um, I have a place that I sit with my animals around me and a big TV in front, like you have here, and um, books that I love.

Oh, okay, and I read a lot, you do, yeah, yeah, mostly fiction.

Charles M.

Russell would be a good example of a writer or John Grisham or somebody like that, David Beltace.

And I watch TV.

I think that

there's a thing about TV that people say, well, he watches too much TV.

There is no too much.

TV is remarkable.

It's an eye into even the behavior of an actor and as an actor on a soap opera or something.

Why?

Why that choice?

Who's directing that?

I don't even watch soap operas, but

you pass through one and you see this,

I don't know if I can tell her, honey, you know, that kind of shit.

And

that's exciting.

And there are women all over the world like this.

You know,

I'm taken by it.

Yeah.

But in any case,

so I'm not here to

just put down

soap operas, but I watch TV.

I like the news a lot.

And there are many many different stations for that.

There's story television, too, which has great stuff.

I like murder stuff.

Okay.

Do you work out?

Do you exercise a lot?

No.

Do you want to?

Start?

Okay.

Okay, no, I'm saying, is it something that interests you for your day?

Yes, I do.

Every day,

I have a physical therapist.

Oh.

And so I do work out.

Oh, good.

So you work out every day?

Every day, five days a week, sometimes six.

Nice.

Yeah, for about an hour and a half.

With a physical therapist?

What kind of stuff are you doing?

Fucking her.

No, wait, I'm sorry.

That was a mistake.

No, no, no.

That's okay.

It's not even good timing, at least.

Okay, what would you say you do with her?

I mean, with the physical therapist.

My golly, honey.

No, no.

Do you have an injury that she's helping you with?

No, no.

Or is it a personality?

It's not a hair, first of all.

A hand.

Well, there is one.

Okay.

On Tuesdays and Thursdays is a guy, Neil.

These are really good practitioners, physical therapy.

A lot of walking, hills, and stuff like that.

Some work out with weights.

Oh, weights, yeah.

Shit like that.

I don't like any of it, but I do like it, kind of.

You have to kind of do it, right?

Yeah.

Do you have any other hobbies?

Tennis.

Oh, tennis?

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

How about tableball?

Do you still play tennis?

No, I haven't.

I don't like the name of it.

I don't like the look of the court.

I don't like the fairies who play it.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

I'm various.

Oh!

Oh!

Get him!

Got him!

You know, I want to.

Do you like tennis, though?

Yeah.

Okay.

Pickleball

is to tennis like

Monopoly is to politics.

Something bad like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I know know you're not going in there.

How about

chess?

Chess?

Chess.

We play a lot of chess.

Oh, you do?

You play a lot of chess.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is there anything other than other habits, any other hobbies you have?

I play the piano.

On the piano.

Do you still play every day practice to keep it up?

Yeah.

Oh, that's great.

And so, what else are you working on, you know, to end, like, to end this whole thing?

Like, is there anything besides a documentary?

We were finished?

Well, we can keep on going.

I want it to be like a check.

No, you're sickening me.

I sicken you already?

It's only

that doesn't take long.

Is there anything else you want to talk about that you are working on?

Well,

I write every day a little bit.

Scenes I write.

Oh, good.

For a script, supposedly.

I've never gone anywhere with it.

I mean, I haven't finished one.

Okay.

And a book.

too, I write prose.

But the same thing.

I just sort of let it go.

Like, why would I write this unless it meant a great deal to me or unless I felt an audience had to find another part of me or whatever that crap is.

I just sort of, I'm lazy.

I like like I was in school.

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Oh, I have one question.

Then I'm going to wrap you.

You can go.

Where did you get the nickname Chevy?

Like, where did that come from?

My grandma.

Oh.

It's an interesting story.

I would love to hear it.

I can't discuss it, though.

Oh, okay.

No, my mother had a stepfather named Cornelius Crane, and

she named me Cornelius Crane Chase.

And I think partly because he was so wealthy that she hoped when he died, he'd leave stuff like that, money.

She was a money grubber.

And

also real pissed because he only left her like 500 grand.

This guy was a multi million.

So he was a little selfish.

Anyway, I don't know where the rest.

Oh, he had a wife, a new wife, and left everything to her.

She was a Japanese woman who probably owns Japan now.

But in any case,

so she named me that.

And my grandma, on my father's side, who lived in Woodstock, where I did most of my growing up, named me Chevy.

She couldn't stand.

Now, obviously, I've never asked her, but there was a city called Chevy Chase.

Where else would she get it?

But I can't imagine her doing that.

It's sort of, but where else would you get, Jevi?

Yeah, did you ever ask?

No, like I said, I never really asked her.

Wow, so you never found out?

No, no, but it's a pretty easy guess, I think.

Yeah.

It's just that those things never were a part of her life or my grandfather's.

They were, he was an artist, they were Woodstockers in a small house.

My dad grew up there and their son.

You know, there was no TV or anything like that where she would come up with something like Terry Chase.

I don't know how it came about.

Probably just knowing the city or.

Right.

Just she thought it was a nice nickname.

Does anyone call you by your real name, like Cornelius?

No.

Sometimes they'll write something, some company or whatever, to Cornelius Crane Chase.

But Chevy has been officially my name for many years.

Many years.

Wow.

Well, Chevy, Cornelius, I appreciate you so much for being on this podcast.

Thank you for coming on.

Oh, that'll be $40.

$40 only?

Okay, well, I mean,

I got pretty good then.

No, it was very good.

I enjoyed your questions.

And thanks a lot.

I actually really enjoyed having you on the podcast, and I can't wait to watch the documentary.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah, I know.

Well, whenever it comes out,

hopefully Darren will tell me when it comes out or I'll know about it.

Hopefully it will come out.

If it doesn't, I'll have to do another one.

Yeah, you should definitely do one.

I think it'd be super interesting.

Yes.

All right.

Well, thanks a lot.

You're welcome.

By the way, Chevy Chase is on social media, so follow him.

And what do you think?

What is that?

Instagram?

Is that one?

Instagram, TikTok, Facebook.

Oh, Instagram.

Everything.

Yeah.

Dear hip.

You're keeping on.

I'm so hip.

Tune in, won't you?

Oh, I love it.

You guys do like social media stuff together?

Yeah, you guys see the TikTok is amazing.

I will absolutely, now that I know, thank you for sharing that.

This is great.

Thanks, Chevy.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you.